Random Tech tidbits

Good morning, all-

I’ve got a few things to toss at  you, including some notes from a conversation I had with Wayne Hogan in the athletics department and a Michael Johnson draft update.

1) Hogan, an associate AD, said that season tickets are coming in steady and at about the rate they expected. He said Tech has received about orders for about 10,000 tickets. Tech sold about 23,500 last year and hopes to get to 30,000 for 2009. He noted that, while the renewal date is April 1, he wasn’t that concerned at having received orders for 10,000 seats, as I imagine I would be. Hogan said that most orders come in at the last minute.

You can order tickets at www.ramblinwreck.com/tickets.

2) The department isn’t much closer to a 12th game for the 2010 football season. As he put it, “they’re still negotiating and bobbing and weaving.” I wrote awhile ago that my guess is Louisville.

3) The AA is going through its budget for the 2010 fiscal year, which starts July 1. I think a lot of what I talked about with Hogan will get folded into a story that we’ll run in a couple Sundays, but the gist of it is that the department is not impervious to the weakened economy. The budget, which was about $55 million this year, will shrink. He wouldn’t say by how much, as numbers are still coming in, but it sounds like it might be by a couple million or more.

Said Hogan, “We’re combing through every expenditure, every scholarship, every salary, every piece of equipment, every piece of travel that we do. It’s a matter of almost turning everything upside down and shaking the change out of the pockets. If you have a $55 million business, you have a lot of nooks and crannies. We’re definitely going to be leaner.”

Obviously, how Tech does selling season tickets could have a fairly significant impact on the budget. Here’s my attempt at math. A season ticket costs $260. The required Tech Fund contributions that accompany the better seats range from $75 to $475. Let’s use $200 for the example. If Tech sells 5,000 more (or fewer) tickets than anticipated, that’s a difference of $2.3 million.

It goes without saying that many of its potential buyers are going through hard times of their own. A layout of $920 for two such tickets isn’t small change. I’m curious if any of you out there are ticket holders who are deliberating this very matter.

As for Michael Johnson, I understand that he worked out for the New York Jets at Tech this week. The Jets pick 17th. While I didn’t find anything definitive – perhaps someone could share a link – it certainly looks like the Jets will play out of a 3-4 defense. They did last year, and new coach Rex Ryan used it in Baltimore, where he was the defensive coordinator. Johnson would likely be a rush linebacker in such a scheme, which could work out pretty well for him. The NFL’s three leading sackers last season were all 3-4 rush linebackers, as a Pittsburgh Post-Gazette story from the combine reports. (DeMarcus Ware, Joey Porter and James Harrison)

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Atlanta Jackets

March 19th, 2009
7:38 am

I got some random Tech tidbits! LOL!

Are the season tickets offered to Tech students and alumni first? Should they be? Just curious what people think.

RecessiontoDepression

March 19th, 2009
7:57 am

No the tech season tix are offered to everyone. Tech alumni with priority points would get the better seats in case of multiple requests but the first critirea is the Tech fund donation.

Too Easy

March 19th, 2009
8:15 am

How could potential buyers be going through hard times of their own? Those potential buyers have to be gt grads (it appears gt has a distaste for non-grads as fans), and we’ve all heard from bloggers here and elsewhere that gt grads are so successful because of the unequalled value of their diploma. These people know calculus, after all.

Tech82

March 19th, 2009
8:45 am

Any member of the Tech “family” who thinks it’s wise to restrict season purchases tickets to “alumni only” is a moron.

Look at the most successful programs in the country (as measured by attendance at home games) and you will find MANY of their fans have no formal connection to the school. Any fan wishing to pay for a ticket, wear the school colors and cheer for the Jackets is a fan we need.

We failed to sell out a nationally televised home game with Miami last year. We are not in a position to turn potential fans away because they never attended Tech.

TechMan91

March 19th, 2009
8:47 am

Distaste may not be entirely accurate. A preference for alumni and Tech family, yes. Distaste, maybe, in some limited circumstances. But if the Tech alumni and family don’t do the job and support the team, then it’s our fault when the sidewalk lot takes over. At least they show up, albeit in their pick up trucks. We only have ourselves to blame.

Billy

March 19th, 2009
8:59 am

There is no more priority anymore for Alumni or past donors. Their seating inventory and selection is real time, like ticketmaster, now. Its all first come first serve, with no concern at all for past giving, etc.

Keith in Midtown

March 19th, 2009
9:11 am

Atlanta Jackets, If you are looking for a place to watch Tech Baseball I still would recomend Woofs Sports Bar on Piedmont. The owners Dan and Steve are Tech graduates and they usually have a free hotdog buffet for Tech games.

gt

March 19th, 2009
9:15 am

Billy – that’s not true. If you have season tickets one year, the tickets are yours the next year unless you choose not to renew. If you want to relocate priority is given by AT points, and you get AT points by donations and as well as being an alumni.

To answer the bloggers question – for me, whether or not to get Tech season tickets is not debatable. I’m definitely going to get them and save in other areas if I have to. Ticket sales should pick up as this is the best home schedule Tech has had in a long time.

Ken Sugiura

March 19th, 2009
9:18 am

Billy is sort of right. Until April 1, ticket holders have the rights to their own seats from 2008 for 2009 and new buyers can purchase any other unclaimed seats. But after April 1, any seats that haven’t been renewed will be up for grabs.
So, to answer your question, Atlanta Jacket, as Recession to Depression (and there’s a cheery screen name) pointed out, the priority isn’t students and alumni. It’s basically anyone who had season tickets last year, alumni, student or otherwise.
I will humbly request that we not revisit the alumni/sidewalk fan argument. I would sooner claw out my eyes.

Kevin

March 19th, 2009
9:24 am

Hogan is more optomisitic than I would be. I am trimming by season tickets by 2 and one of my college buddies is giving up his 4. I am a Tech man, but I cannot rationalize paying the Tech fund money while I am cutting back in other areas. I am not eliminating my allotment completely, but, if I were Hogan and the gang, I would get on the horn and find out how many of the remaining previous season ticket holders are planning to renew before making such projections. I would be surprised if season ticket sales increased this year strictly for financial reasons.

Jimbo

March 19th, 2009
9:46 am

@Tech82: Agree, though there are downsides. Look at all of the idiot Wal-Mart fans that UGA draws, for example (though their money is just as good, I suppose). You’ll find most of them in these forums.

Kevin

March 19th, 2009
9:55 am

I have held season tickets for 18 years including my time as a student at Tech. Every fan base has morons. We have no shortage at Tech. I welcome anyone who is willing to support Tech by paying their money and sit in a seat and make noise for the good guys. To not welcome all willing and able to pay is insane. Unless you are willing to buy up all 50,000+ seats, you have no say.

Anyway, we all may be Wal-Mart (or at least Target) fans by the time this economic mess is over-LOL.

Huh?

March 19th, 2009
10:09 am

Tech has no interest in the sidewalk fan? Why was I bombarded with Georgia Tech ads on the AJC sports page last year with CPJ big fat ugly mug staring at me everyday? Why do I get emails from the GT athletic department on a nearly daily basis BEGGING me to buy your lousy football tickets? I didn’t go to Georgia Tech and have never taken calculus. Go figure. Why are there Big Boi performances and free hot dog and coke performances every year? I guess engineers really love their hip hop and junk food!!!

Tech fans are the most full of crap fan base on the face of the earth. That’s all there is to it.

superDAWG

March 19th, 2009
10:13 am

jimbo you must be from BUGTUSSEL.YOUR WALMART CARD IS IN THE MAIL.gt has this ego problem if they don’t win they don’t show.next sell out nov.at the red and black show.see you at walmart.

GT-Sidewalk

March 19th, 2009
10:13 am

While I won’t dive back into the sidewalk/alumni fans, I am a Tech fan whose only formal connection to the institute is that I grew up in a family of UGA fans and I hate UGAly. Would you rather people like me cheer for the pups?

As far as season tickets, yes, this is going to be a GREAT schedule, and coming off the success of 2008, how could season tickets not sell out? It was discouraging seeing BDS covered in red for UGA in 2007, but the fan base was apathetic and didn’t have a reason to support the team. CPJ has changed that attitude, but if we still can’t fill BDS with white and gold, just have the last person who leaves turn out the lights.

ga_tech_92

March 19th, 2009
10:17 am

Go Jackets *ping*

Alumni Only

March 19th, 2009
10:28 am

Are you kidding? I’m one of the biggest Tech fans around and probably know more than many grads. I applied to Tech in undergrad and for graduate school and recieved admission both times but decided to go eslewhere on full scholarship then to law school. That’s a stupid idea. Tech needs fans and winning can surely accomplish that goal. GT alumni who have disdain for other Tech fans are not TRUE fans of their own school.

UGAIsSoLastYear

March 19th, 2009
10:32 am

Wayne Hogan says what one would expect him to say. Do we (or you Ken) expect him to say that 10,000 tickets, so far, is below what he expected? It seems very, very low considering the deadline is in a few days. I still say the LSU game, which was our last memory of football, ruined much of the positive buzz that was being created. Our basketball coach, Wayne will find out, also will have a negative affect on GT fans being happy to shell out money for GT sports (football or basketball).

UGAIsSoLastYear

March 19th, 2009
10:38 am

PS Ken; my Tech Fund is $600 a seat. Not sure where you get $75 – $475?

RT

March 19th, 2009
10:46 am

Dudes, Its freakin’ football. What kind of idiot thinks that you shouldn’t come to the game if you didn’t attend the school? How many of the 90,000 Bama fans that show up for SPRING SCRIMMAGE GAMES do you think attended Bama. I’d love to have to fight for a seat with guy that loves the team just because his cousin got him drunk for the first time at frat party in 1974. Its not like these “sidewalk” fans are taking away our engineering jobs because they are fans of the team. Your diploma got you a job, it doesn’t garauntee you a dang seat at a football game. Boy, I sure got worked up over a stupid question.

Too Easy

March 19th, 2009
10:57 am

RT, now THAT’s the attitude gt fans should have. It’s like that all over the SEC – and, yes, it is just freakin’ football. Sadly, that attitude is not pervasive on N. Ave. nor at most places in the acc. It seems most have the haughty attitude that it’s just football AND there are more important things in life. Well, of course there are, but, damn – lighten up and have some fun.

Ken Sugiura

March 19th, 2009
11:00 am

UGAIsSoLastYear- there are indeed tickets requiring a $600 contribution to the Tech Fund. But those aren’t available. The $75-$475 range was for tickets that were available, according to the brochure. And, actually, the most expensive tickets remaining (according to the Tech website) are those with a $275 contribution.
It would be interesting to know how much the LSU game dampened enthusiasm. It was a pretty big opportunity to capture non-Tech fans’ attention, but I’d think at least those with Tech ties would still be excited about 2009.
Kevin, you’re making sense. I think the AA would gladly take anyone’s money for tickets, and I’d think Tech fans would be wise to welcome them, regardless of where they shop.

Too Easy

March 19th, 2009
11:37 am

Ken, you’re right on target with the comment on the LSU game and enthusiasm for 2009. The Dawgs got waxed by FL last year, but anyone thinking there won’t be 40,000 UGA fans TRAVELING to Jax this year would be dead wrong. You can hate losing with a passion, but the issue is having fun with a passion. Buy the damn tickets, enjoy gamedays. I just dropped $1700 yesterday for all my home and away tix, but it was FUN (although it wasn’t for gt tix and I wouldn’t want to do it more than once a year).

Crow T. Robot

March 19th, 2009
11:48 am

I renewed my season tickets a couple of weeks ago. Sure, they’re not the best in the house (midway up in the north end zone), but they’re still pretty good. The price was very reasonable – $180 each (I have 2). So, $360 for the season is an awesome price and I didn’t hesitate. I’m looking forward to the season…

gte268p

March 19th, 2009
11:53 am

I don’t mind at all having just as equal rights for non-GT fans to buy season tickets as the rest of us because the truth is, if anyone decides to buy season tickets to a school that he/she did not attend, then that person is likely as big a fan of the team as any of us!

MinnesotaJacket

March 19th, 2009
12:00 pm

I think one thing sould be noted in all of this. Tech does not have the around the state fans. Yes anyone should be able to buy tickets and I think everyone is ALLOWED to buy tickets but alumni and previous students should have first call to those tickets before allowing to general public which I would guess what every school does. The biggest thing is Georgia does have a much further reach with what 45K undergrads compared to Tech’s 15K which means that out of the 45K that drop out or graduate they will still be Georgia fans most likeley. so in reality there should be 3-4 times as many UGA fans at any given time. So of course it will be harder to fill Tech stadium where probably 5,000 of 15K students don’t even know what football is. Congrats to UGA for having fans who have a great uncle who went to Georgia and thus they are fans. Tech has a much harder time with those kind of commitments.

MinnesotaJacket

March 19th, 2009
12:02 pm

Second of all Im a student but working in Texas in fall…act like I am not going to buy a plane ticket back for every single game in the fall but I was born a Tech fan and went to Tech so I have a very Tech background.

Camperb

March 19th, 2009
12:09 pm

Didn’t go to tech, family didn’t go to tech….just a season ticket holder since 1983…and one of the few fans still around in the 4th quarter win or lose.

EEJacket

March 19th, 2009
12:33 pm

Us GT students have a pompous attitude to begin with, and I guess that transfers over to football. I make fun of UGAy fans all the time for being rednecks with no college education, but
A.) It’s not COMPLETELY serious, I know that people who graduate from UGA are mostly good people (i.e. NOT shameless rednecks with the mind of a squirrel). I know one girl that teaches math to high schoolers (one of the hardest jobs on the planet) and another gentleman who lives in the richest neighboorhood in town and owns a freakin bank.
B.) Sure I think we’re better than everyone else at engineering, but that sure as hell won’t stop me from giving a drunken high five to the dude next to me who dropped out of high school when we score a touchdown.

Alphretta Chelsea Blues

March 19th, 2009
12:47 pm

Well said EEJacket.

TechMan91

March 19th, 2009
12:51 pm

I’m of the opinion that we should give priority to Tech family. That’s all. I’d rather not have high school drop outs representing the Institute, but if we as a family can’t support Tech, I guess we’re left dealing with those walk ups that do.

I’m surprised there is any sports reporting to do today. I thought every media outlet in the world was in Athens for the coming out party.

HBGDawg

March 19th, 2009
12:53 pm

It really is pretty ironic that GT claims to have “captains of industry” rolling out of North Ave year after year, but the fans who do go to games complain about the cost and drop tickets. You don’t hear that same line from other major schools. GT certainly has a problem filling the stadium and how many local fans they have is a part of it. However, that will continue to happen until they come to grips with their attitude about sidewalk fans (which is very poor).

the real Old Gold

March 19th, 2009
1:25 pm

I’m a season ticket holder (who already renewed) who didn’t go to Tech. In fact I’m still in school elsewhere working on my first degree. Given, I’m a little late in school due to military service in Iraq, but still. My wife is working on her 3rd degree and she’s a Bama fan, and none of her degrees are from Alabama. We go to every game, and take part in every event including spring games, fan days, bowl games etc. **I don’t drive a “pick up truck” and thing the term “side walk crowd/lot” is better suited for the snobby country club.** If I thought that type of mindset was the majority at Tech, I’d drop my tickets so fast and be gone before the hit the ground, but I don’t believe that for a second. In fact every season ticket holder at Tech that I know personally from my area doesn’t have anything formally to do with the school other than a love for Tech athletics and its history and traditions. THWG!

the real Old Gold

March 19th, 2009
1:33 pm

“TechMan91″ I think it’s time you got over yourself. Not everyone from Georgia who loves football and chose to pull for the Yellow Jackets wants a degree in engineering. I chose military service over college, and I’m far from a HS dropout. If you want all Tech fans that didn’t graduate from there to stop coming to games, you better be careful what you ask for. I get pissed off to no end when the stands aren’t full, and it’s people like you that ARE THE REASON for the empty seats in the first place. It’s asinine not to welcome anyone who will be faithful to Tech athletics aboard. Just because I didn’t go to Tech doesn’t mean I’m an idiot. I love the school as much as the next guy and I’m a faithful fan. You, however, ARE an idiot because you are too full of yourself to be a just plain old good person. THWG!

Joe Schmoe

March 19th, 2009
1:40 pm

I like the fact this year that you have to be a season ticket holder to even buy the GT vs. UGA game. I think this will impeade the UGA fans greatly. Im buying my extra to that game and inviting my GT buddies.

Joe Schmoe

March 19th, 2009
1:53 pm

TechMan 91, it is people like you that sit down the whole game, and give the occasional golf clap when something good happens. I had a man tell me to sit down last year at the GT vs FSU game last year? I told him where he can stick it. Seriously folks, I think this conversation just needs to end.

GT66

March 19th, 2009
1:55 pm

My sources have told me that AD DRad is considering scaling back the football stadium to about the size of Brookwood High School.

Joe Schmoe

March 19th, 2009
1:56 pm

Wow GT66, you must be featured at the Punchline tonight. I’ll make sure to ask for a refund.

DoggieDiaper

March 19th, 2009
2:16 pm

I am a GT alum and season ticket holder and I could care less if the person sitting next to me is a GT alum or not…so long as he is cheering for the right team. Any alum who does care is an idiot.

That said- how bad does “Too Easy” want to be a tech alum. His fixation on all things Tech borders on neurotic. Too Easy – your penis envy is not obvious….I promise.

Alphretta Chelsea Blues

March 19th, 2009
2:53 pm

Ken, are your eye clawed out?

Too Easy

March 19th, 2009
3:03 pm

Diaper: Yes, I am a Dawg alum, but what have I said that is not true? I could have said that gt could give priority to EVERYBODY who wants tickets – and you still couldn’t fill your sad little stadium. I still wouldn’t have said anything untrue. I was trying to get you guys pumped to quit bitchin’ and buy some damn tickets. And didn’t you mean you “couldn’t” care less? Moron.

DoggieDiaper

March 19th, 2009
3:15 pm

Too Easy-

I did mean “couldn’t”. Thanks for the correction.

But you still want to be a jacket. If there was a tech blog about parking lots around the stadium, 10:1 you would trolling and lurking as always. Actually it wouldn’t be a GT blog without you peering through the knot holes in the fence. In a weird way, you have become a little part of our family. Maybe that will fulfill a little bit of that need to be affiliated you obviously have. From a ‘moron’ to a wannabe…I say..go jackets!

jacketbacker

March 19th, 2009
3:15 pm

Tech fans need to buy tickets, period….i don’t care where they come from or where they went to school…..

Atlanta Jackets

March 19th, 2009
4:02 pm

Wow! What did I start? I guess I like to hear the passion.

I appreciate the sidewalk crowd and the alumni! Heck when I graudate, it may be one of these sidewalk folks that get me a job! LOL!

Ping! That’s the sound of Tech baseball!

Ping! That’s the sound of an aluminum bat making contact with a mutt head. (No real dogs, just mutt fans.LOL!)

Ping! That’s the sound of the Robot scoring another touchdown against the mutts in Athens!! LOL! ROTFLMAO!!

MinnesotaJacket

March 19th, 2009
4:48 pm

I agree with the idea that who cares alumni or not…but I was wondering on the people here who said they weren’t alumni was anyone in your family like dad, mom, granddad anything like that? I mean I don’t care your a Tech fan so THWG all the way, but I was just curious. Let me tell you I have converted four of my friends who don’t go to Tech to Tech fans by letting them come to games at Tech stadium against Miami and FSU….

SugarHillDawg

March 19th, 2009
5:57 pm

I bought a pizza the other night and Tech season tickets came with my pizza but I sent them back.The delivery guy said it happened every time he took them and they were wallpapering the pizza place with them.

ken sugiura

March 19th, 2009
6:10 pm

Chelsea Blues – either my standards on what constitutes an interesting conversation have taken a beating since last fall, or this actually wasn’t so bad. i appreciate everyone’s honesty and thoughts and that this wasn’t all back and forth Tech and UGA bashing (knock on wood).
I think until Tech starts winning big consistently – and by doing so starts pulling in the more reluctant alumni, winning over people with ties to neither school – the school will have trouble selling out. It seems like the vast majority of people unaligned to either school are UGA fans, and so Tech has to rely on alumni, and maybe there just aren’t enough of them.
Think about it this way – if UGA had to fill Sanford at the same ratio of alumni/sidewalk fans that Tech does Bobby Dodd, could it? (I don’t know. maybe it could.)
So the problem maybe isn’t that Tech fans are wishy-washy. It’s just that there aren’t enough of them.

When I said that the LSU game might have dampened enthusiasm, I was thinking more of people who weren’t Tech fans but were thinking about getting on the bandwagon. I’d have to think that Tech alums who were on the fence before last season would be excited regardless. But I could be wrong. It’s happened before.

ken sugiura

March 19th, 2009
6:20 pm

Here’s another theory that I’ll throw out that occurred to me just now. Is it possible that Tech fans are wishy-washy about season tickets (if in fact they are) because they can afford to be? Some of you UGA folks, if you’re out there, maybe you can enlighten us. I’d think that if you give up your season tickets at UGA, you’d have to go back into the waiting list to get them back. At Tech, however, you’re free to buy them, and then drop them with little risk of not being able to get back into the stadium.
I don’t know. Just a thought. Maybe I’ve been reading too much Freakonomics.

Camperb

March 19th, 2009
6:21 pm

MinnesotaJacket- My dad was an Emory U alum with a passion for football. The rest is history. I would encourage the TechMan91’s of the world to open their minds a bit when it comes to the GT fanbase. I always thought I was part of the Tech family. I may not have received my degree from GT but my contributions to the Tharpe fund are helping someone else.

chuck allison

March 19th, 2009
6:58 pm

I know how we could save about 1.5 million per year and improve our basketball program tremendously, but we would need a good contract lawyer to get us out of a very imprudent agreement.