How might conference expansion affect Georgia State?

How will the ripple effect of conference expansion find its way to Georgia State?

As you know, the splash that was made during last year’s comings and goings resulted in Georgia State moving from the Colonial Athletic Association to the Sun Belt. The move made geographical, financial and common sense.

In addition to playing football on the FBS level, the Sun Belt featured more geographic rivals than the Panthers had in the CAA, whose closest team was seven hours away in Wilmington, N.C.

Well, it appears that one of those rivals, Middle Tennessee State, is following Georgia State’s script and is moving up to Conference USA, considered a tier above the Sun Belt in conference reputation.

That move occurred because the Big East raided Conference USA on Tuesday, taking two teams. That move by the Big East occurred because the ACC was expected to take Louisville (which it has done), which occurred because the Big 10 took Maryland.

So what does this mean for Georgia State?

Potentially nothing in terms of where the Panthers might make their next lair.

I was told last night by someone familiar with Conference USA’s plans that Georgia State was not on their radar. They didn’t say why. Presumably, Western Kentucky, another Sun Belt team with stronger history than Georgia State’s, or New Mexico might be next should Conference USA add another university.

Even if the Conference USA was interested, Georgia State may not have the finances to support such a move. In the pro-forma summary included in the FBS feasibility study commissioned by Georgia State last year, its sources of revenue are 23-percent less than the average Conference USA school. Some of that would be made up by more conference revenues.

However, Georgia State’s budget would need to increase by an estimated $6.3 million. To compare, the move to the Sun Belt would result in a budget increase of $3 million, according to the study. That also doesn’t take into account any initiation fee, which were $2 million last year.

Of course, many of you have surmised that expenses may decrease because Conference USA in 2014, with a few start-up programs and teams that formerly played in smaller conferences, will be different than Conference USA in 2011. That doesn’t solve the invitation issue, though.

Like the Sun Belt, a move to Conference USA would produce some potentially strong regional rivalries with Charlotte, UAB, and potentially Middle Tennessee State.

Now, the Sun Belt may be without Middle Tennessee State, one of the schools closest to Georgia State geographically. If the Sun Belt moves to add a school like Sam Houston State (just throwing that out there), that’s one less geographic rival for the Panthers.

– Doug Roberson, AJC.

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STATEment

November 28th, 2012
1:28 pm

Sad to see Old Dominion, UTSA (who both started football right before and right after State) and Charlotte (who hasn’t played a down of football yet) get the invites to CUSA and State just gets left in the dust…

Hard to say it’s because of poor performance on the field, because like I said, Charlotte hasn’t played a down and you absolutely can’t say that it’s because of where State is located because all of the conferences in the country would love to get a footprint in Atlanta and have the chance to host a conference championship at State’s home, the Dome!!!

I hope apathy isn’t the answer…

Doug Roberson

November 28th, 2012
1:34 pm

I can’t explain UTSA’s invite. Charlotte and ODU have basketball history to fall back on as a reason for the invite. That, and ODU seems to have proven that it can succeed in football (though Bobby Wilder seems to be a candidate for BC; if I’m him, I stay right were I am).

hammer22

November 28th, 2012
1:34 pm

If we get a great head coach who turns this football program around (i.e a Ron Hunter who has won everywhere he has been), we’ll get some outstanding recruits and be in some good bowl games.

Alum

November 28th, 2012
1:34 pm

Bye MTSU, just making C-USA more irrelavent. The Sunbelt will not remain a “Tier” below you for very much longer. Just ask UCF is they think the Grass is greener…

thatmofo

November 28th, 2012
1:39 pm

Our All-Star administration has got this y’all. Meanwhile, I’ll be buying season tickets for the Braves and bye bye PAC. I’m not sticking around while Yow Jr. runs this into the ground.

RidgeRunner

November 28th, 2012
1:48 pm

This alum is sticking to season fb tickets though I attended less than half the games this year. If they repeat this sad performance I might not renew in 14.

Go GSU

November 28th, 2012
2:14 pm

The feasibility study compared the budgets of CUSA teams about a year ago, many of which are now in Big East. Now CUSA includes many upstarts and Sun Belt teams added after the feasibility study was conducted.

I would be interested to see those numbers now. Our AD’s salary is certainly in line with CUSA’s.

STATEment

November 28th, 2012
2:16 pm

No reason to not renew your season tickets just yet. Next year we will hopefully have a legit coach who can coach and we will have some decent names coming to the Dome.

I will buy season tickets for two more years (year two of the new coach) and if after 2014 I don’t see progress…I will hold on to my basketball tickets as always and spend my football ticket money on opening a lemonade stand.

glsjunior

November 28th, 2012
2:28 pm

Doug I think you have to recalculate the avg athletic budgets of Conf USA teams based upon the constitution of the conference in 2014. All of their big budget teams have left for the Big East and most of the new teams are either FBS start ups or Sunbelt defections.

Doug Roberson

November 28th, 2012
2:31 pm

I would, but I don’t have those figures. As I noted, these are from a year ago. It would be natural to assume that costs would rise during the year.

Doug Roberson

November 28th, 2012
2:38 pm

And that is an excellent point, junior and gogsu

thatmofo

November 28th, 2012
3:05 pm

Sun Belt is about to become WAC East. When SDSU and Boise back out of Big East, two more from C-USA go to Big East and C-USA plucks from SBC. Leaving the SBC with 6. Sounds just right where GSU should be. We should be able to raise so much money being in that conference it’s silly. But thanks to the vision of Becket and Levick we will just be a skid mark on rotten undies.

Levick

November 28th, 2012
3:29 pm

Chill guys, have you seen the salaries that Becker and I have? We got this under control.

John Bond

November 28th, 2012
4:22 pm

This is going to be AWESOME!

John Bond

November 28th, 2012
4:31 pm

FIU just lobbied successfully for C-USA to add FAU!

thatmofo

November 28th, 2012
4:49 pm

Doug, you can talk budget all you want, but a 6-8 team Sun Belt league in cities in Backwoods USA isn’t going to produce much conference/bowl/tv revenue that the C-USA will. We are a joke.

I DONT GET IT

November 28th, 2012
4:53 pm

why doesn’t anyone see that Cheryl Levick needs to be fired? If she’s fired, we can hire an AD at a lower salary, spend that money in marketing, and maybe get in better graces with other conferences. NOBODY like her!!

Dr. Nick

November 28th, 2012
5:44 pm

Too bad Sun Belt doesn’t have insight to bring Ga Southern into the conference.That would certainly produce a big rivalry between State & Southern and be within close proximity.Ga Southern has positioned itself to move up and it will happen soon.Southern has enrollment of 21,000 and expanding stadium to 25,000 capacity and averages 20,000 + for games now.

WTF!

November 28th, 2012
6:11 pm

Here’s how it might effect GSU: the conference we went all in for gets a lot worst while our peers are exactly where they belong.

RidgeRunner

November 28th, 2012
7:25 pm

I DONT GET IT & WTF! — such negativity. Think about the positives once in awhile.

Levick

November 28th, 2012
7:39 pm

Thanks Ridge for getting my back. The positives are, ummm, uhhh, ummm, uhhh…can you help me out here? Other than my awesome salary, I can’t think of any

GO PANTHERS

November 28th, 2012
8:07 pm

I am now praying the Big East gets crazy and calls us…….& i hope we hire Mark Mangino

STATEment

November 28th, 2012
8:31 pm

Now WKU and New Mexico State to CUSA! This day keeps getting worse. Oh yeah and King Benson of the Sun Belt passed on sending an invite to New Mexico State…

Sluggo

November 28th, 2012
8:37 pm

Our administration is asleep at the wheel. This is unbelievable.

Georgiastate1913

November 29th, 2012
8:58 am

On the bright side, if all of the good schools leave the Sun Belt conference for conference USA… At least the conference will be easier for us to win in basketball?

STATEment

November 29th, 2012
9:10 am

My worry is Hunter might take his family and go find another job! I bet CUSA has called him too.

Go Panthers!!

November 29th, 2012
10:03 am

Oof. Well, this certainly sucks.

No question about it now. SBC is going to have to call up GaSo, App State and maybe a Delaware and a James Madison. Whether we like it or not, they at least bring name recognition.

Go Panthers!!

November 29th, 2012
10:06 am

John Bond

November 29th, 2012
11:29 am

We’re moving to the Big East, just you wait! I’ll be the happiest head coach in GSU history!

Levick

November 29th, 2012
12:20 pm

patience please! once the sun belt dissolves, i will then become the highest paid AD in a non FBS conference

Brian

November 29th, 2012
1:21 pm

Crossing my fingers that the sun belt does grab Ga Southern. Would produce a great rivalry.

William

November 29th, 2012
2:18 pm

Will Mr. Benson do to the Sunbelt that caused the demise of the WAC in football?If he adds quality FCS teams such as App. State,Georgia Southern,JMU and Liberty to the Sunbelt perhaps it can be saved!!

Dumpster Diving Conference

November 29th, 2012
2:24 pm

DDC is the new branding name for the Sun Belt and are proud to bring you the following additions: University of Idaho, New Mexico State University, and Georgia Southern.

Doug, what was that about us being happy in the Sun Belt? Who did you ask, Levick and Becker? Any self respecting fan & coach would want out of this ASAP!

Coach King

November 29th, 2012
3:00 pm

Its amazing to see a strand where so many people give a damn. That was not the case just a short while ago.

Chicken Bone

November 29th, 2012
3:17 pm

Dang, there goes our trip to Nashville, Boca Raton and possibly Bowling Green. Won’t be driving to Texas and Louisana for sure! Still have the Bama teams for now. Good grief!

Ron Hunter

November 29th, 2012
3:25 pm

Thanks for everything guys, but I am outta here!

urinal and constipation reader

November 29th, 2012
5:18 pm

I think App st, Ga Southern, and Sam Houston would be solid additions..and likely stable ones in terms of longevity… Not to mention Ga Southern an instant rival and App st certainly close enough to start one.

Ron

November 29th, 2012
5:34 pm

Bill Lazor the OC at Virginia interviewed for the HC position.

Eagles

November 29th, 2012
7:54 pm

Now all of you Georgia State fans can stop beating your chests about your superior athletics and academics. Georgia Southern will soon be in the Sun Belt and back on top where they belong. You state fans are in for a rude awakening. You can only brag about your commuter school JV team for so long before someone shuts you up.

Dudley Dawson

November 29th, 2012
8:50 pm

Bama is already nervous about next season’s visit from Georgia State. Go Panthers! And who really cares about that women’s college in Statesboro and their sorry team of illiterate, future McDonalds employees?

Eagles

November 29th, 2012
9:13 pm

Right, because Georgia State is the next Harvard or Yale. Face it, your school is not an academic gold mine. Its a place for middle aged women to go back to college to get a generic business degree. If you’re going to criticize Georgia Southern come up with something better than “women’s college” and “mcdonald’s employees.”

Eagles

November 29th, 2012
9:16 pm

And last time I checked, that “sorry” team is 8-3, won the SoCon title, and is playing in the playoffs. Georgia State was 1-11. Oh yeah, Georgia Southern will be in the same conference as state soon enough. Can’t wait to see which team is “sorry.” As for the Mcdonald’s employees, didn’t half of your team get kicked off last year for getting arrested?

Dr. Karl Benson

November 29th, 2012
10:21 pm

I hope the lunatic fringe at panthertalk have updated their meds.

The thing they said would never happen, Georgia Southern, joining our conference? Well, it’s about to happen.

That first game at the Georgia Dome will draw at least 45K, and it’ll be a 70-30 crowd favoring the Eagles.

Maybe the Levy’s concession stands can add humble pie to the offerings.

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straightshooter

November 30th, 2012
9:02 am

…and a 70-30 score in favor of the Eagles too

Tractor Pulling >>>>>>>>

November 30th, 2012
11:18 am

The #1 job obtaining by Southern grads

Chicken Bone

November 30th, 2012
12:02 pm

Eagles………………………………………………. SOS Troll on!

Burning Pile of Manure

November 30th, 2012
2:58 pm

<————- What Georgia State football fans experience year-after-year.

Conference Realignment

November 30th, 2012
5:28 pm

What FBS conference is Southern gonna join once there is no Sun Belt Conference left…the dominoes are falling and it will wipe out the Sun Belt…bank on it