Georgia State receiving more “good” inquires about guarantee games

Georgia State’s football games in 2013 at Alabama and West Virginia fulfill not only a revenue goal for the athletic department as it continues its transition to the FBS level, but they also fulfill a philosophical goal that athletic director Cheryl Levick has for the fans and the team.

Those games, along with trips to Oregon in 2015 and Air Force in 2016 were announced on Wednesday.

The Panthers will receive $550,000 to play in Morgantown, West Va. on Sept. 14 and $700,000 to play at Alabama on Oct. 5. The Tide guarantee is almost $300,000 more than the Panthers received as an FCS team to play the Tide in 2010.

Levick said the goal is to schedule two guarantee games each year. They hope to schedule one that’s within driving distance for fans and the other can be anywhere. In addition to the entertainment value, the combined total of $1.25 million for the next year’s games falls within the athletic department’s revenue needs for next year.

“It is part of the overall strategy in the next steps in Georgia State football,” she said.

The guarantees seem to have rankled some fans, who have commented that the Panthers should have received more for each game. For example, the total is far short of the $925,000 that Idaho received to play a single game at LSU.

But it is better than the $860,000 that Savannah State received to play at Oklahoma State and Florida State earlier this season.

There are reasons that Georgia State didn’t receive more money, including that the Panthers needed to fill their schedule too. That immediate need may have prevented them from negotiating a higher guarantee, for example one closer to the $900,000 they will receive to play at Oregon in 2015.

“If we had more time before to plan these games then we might have come up better on that,” assistant athletic director James Greenwell said. “In future years I think we are going to and need to. But it wasn’t as dire for this year.”

Generally, FBS teams receive more interest — and guarantees — from teams from BCS conferences because the victory counts toward bowl eligibility. NCAA rules only allow one victory over an FCS team per year to count toward bowl eligibility. Some FBS teams play two FCS teams per year.

Now that it is transitioning to the FBS level, Georgia State has heard from a few ACC teams about playing guarantee games. Greenwell declined to say which teams were interested. Georgia State is also helped because of the ACC’s recent decision to scale back its conference schedule from nine games to eight, which left some openings on schedules.

“We are getting some good inquiries … definitely something that’s going to garner interest for the program,” he said.

He did say that neither Georgia Tech nor Georgia have reached out. He hasn’t contacted them, either.

Georgia State and Alabama began talking earlier this summer about playing again. Greenwell said the conversation with West Virginia went quickly. The game against Oregon was put together by a third party. Air Force reached out to Georgia State for the home-and home series, which will begin at the Georgia Dome in 2014.

Money, money, money

A look at the guarantees Georgia State has received from the FBS opponents past and present:

2010: Alabama, $435,000

2011: Houston, $300,000

2012: Tennessee, $500,000

2013: West Virginia, $550,000

2013: Alabama, $700,000

2015: Oregon, $900,000

2013 schedule

9/7 vs. Chattanooga

9/14 at West Virginia

9/21 vs. Jacksonville State

10/5 at Alabama

2014 schedule

9/6 at Chattanooga

vs. Air Force

2015 schedule

at Oregon

2016 schedule

at Air Force

Bilukidi and the Falcons

Raiders defensive tackle Christo Bilukidi was the first Georgia State football player to be drafted.

The Falcons will play the Raiders this weekend. Coach Dennis Allen said this to esteemed colleague D. Orlando Ledbetter:

“He’s done a good job for us,” Allen said. “He’s a young who’s trying to get better. He’s trying to understand the techniques that we are trying to get him to do. He’s still relatively young playing the position.  He’s got some athleticism. He’s got some size. He’s gotten an opportunity to get in and play in some games this year. Our hope is that he continues to get better.”

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– Doug Roberson, AJC. Please follow me on twitter @ajcgsu

35 comments Add your comment

DownTownATL

October 11th, 2012
12:45 pm

Please get a home and home with Clemson! Imagine the dome half blue half orange. Panther fans will turn up!!

Woody Paige

October 11th, 2012
12:59 pm

You mean half purple and half orange.

Panther

October 11th, 2012
1:01 pm

Why would Clemson play GSU in the Dome? They’re not going to pay us and still have to travel. It’ll be 10+ years before we ever get a team like that in the dome. That’s if we don’t cancel football before then.

Truth

October 11th, 2012
1:11 pm

Doug, has the @ Lamar game been officially bought out? What about the game in Chattanooga in 2014? I certainly hope both have been cancelled.

Truth

October 11th, 2012
1:15 pm

They wouldn’t have to pay us AND play in the Dome. It’s called a 2 for 1 exchange. And @ Panther, good thing you’re not in charge of this program! Already talking about shutting down. SMH.

Doug Roberson

October 11th, 2012
1:15 pm

Actually Panther, I kind of disagree on that one.
It’s no secret that Georgia is one of the hotbeds of high school football and basketball talent in the country. Steve Spurrier said the other day that Georgia may have even passed Florida in football talent.
If I’m a middle-tier team in the ACC or SEC, and I can afford to give up the revenue from a home game for one weekend (if that’s necessary), I might consider playing Georgia State in the Dome, as long as I can line up a bunch of players I’m recruiting to come and watch.
I have no idea what the NCAA rules are about that….but I’d consider it as part of a 2-for-1 deal with a reduced guarantee for GSU, for example.

GSU Fans

October 11th, 2012
1:21 pm

We respect everybody but we are ready to play anybody at any place and any time.

Go State!!!

Doug Roberson

October 11th, 2012
1:22 pm

Yes, sorry. The Lamar game has been bought out. Chattanooga is still on, I believe

Go Panthers

October 11th, 2012
1:29 pm

Money = better facilities.
We desperately need better facilities.

Glsjunior

October 11th, 2012
1:37 pm

Good schedule for Coach Bobo

STATEment

October 11th, 2012
1:39 pm

I would love to see a Duke, Wake Forest, Maryland, Ole Miss, Miss. State, Vandy, Louisville, etc. Make a trip to the Dome…Similar, talent and name recognition as Air Force, but more local to draw a big crowd, yet someone who we might be able to keep the score close with in the future.

Burdell

October 11th, 2012
4:00 pm

“Duke, Wake Forest, Maryland, Ole Miss, Miss. State, Vandy, Louisville, etc…..someone who we might be able to keep the score close with in the future.”

I almost spit my afternoon coffee all over my monitor! Good one.

zgoldatl

October 11th, 2012
4:17 pm

Doug- Wasn’t there a report about games at Florida and at UNC that came out a while back? What happened to those games?

urinal and constipation reader

October 11th, 2012
4:20 pm

exciting for now. Still think a 25 game losing streak is very possible. Probably better keep chattanooga 2014

Doug Roberson

October 11th, 2012
4:22 pm

Don’t believe that was me, zgoldatl.

acm

October 11th, 2012
5:55 pm

Guess we’re waiting on the money games for 2014?

GSU Men's BB Fan

October 11th, 2012
6:07 pm

zgoldatl: “Doug- Wasn’t there a report about games at Florida and at UNC that came out a while back? What happened to those games?”

Doug Roberson: “Don’t believe that was me, zgoldatl.”

Umm…http://blogs.ajc.com/georgia-state-sports/2012/05/03/georgia-state-football-schedule-stuff-unc-florida-charlotte/

So I guess the better question would be, has anything come of those discussions?

Doug Roberson

October 11th, 2012
6:32 pm

My bad on that. I thought you meant reports the games were done.
Ill try to find out if those discussions with unc and florida are dead, or just on hiatus. I believe that the sec and acc may have put some scheduling on hiatus while they were deciding how many conference games they would play. As greenwell noted, they have heard from a few acc schools. North Carolina may be one. I’ll try to find out.

Alum98

October 11th, 2012
8:13 pm

James Greenwell “Hasn’t Contacted UGA or GT”? WHY THE HELL NOT? Get on the phone James and make this HAPPEN!!!

Interesting

October 11th, 2012
11:07 pm

If we were to host a Miss St or Ole Miss, what would the attendance be?

I’d assume 20-25K GSU fans would turn out.

But how many fans would travel from Mississippi for that kind of matchup?

15K? Plus another 5K locally?

It will be interesting, also, to see what Air Force will draw.

Alum98

October 12th, 2012
8:20 am

Drive around Atlanta and you see many out of state SEC/ACC stickers on cars. Auburn, Florida, Tennessee, Clemson, VT, FSU etc. Most of Atlanta’s population is comprised of folks that went to these cow colleges and come here to work. We should be actively pursuing home & homes for just travel costs (like the Air Force Deal) and spin it that “hey you have tons of Alumni in Atlanta” why not give a bunch of them the opportunity to come see their school locally. This would boost our attendance and maybe get their local Alumni more involved in their own programs. Obviously Auburn advertizes with football billboards around town for some reason. Why not just bring the team here.

Go Panthers!!

October 12th, 2012
9:28 am

If we played Auburn at the Dome, it would be like a home game for them. The place would be packed with their fans.

At that point, I’d rather just play them there and get the paycheck.

Go Panthers!!

October 12th, 2012
9:45 am

I take that back.

Assuming we sold 50K additional tickets at an average of $15 per, that’s $750,000 in ticket sales.

As good as a guarantee without travel costs.

Alum98

October 12th, 2012
9:45 am

@ Go Panthers!! Yes it would, that’s why I’m suggesting a h&h arrangement. Thinking big picture, who cares at this point about what fans are in the Dome we just need bodies in seats.

Alum98

October 12th, 2012
9:46 am

Oppps, emails crossed. Glad you get my logic.

RidgeRunner

October 12th, 2012
9:58 am

Good info. When GSU gets back in a competitive state we could have some interesting schools coming to the Dome.

English

October 12th, 2012
12:01 pm

Any write up on the GSU v URI game this weekend? I would love a preview.

Go Panthers!!

October 12th, 2012
1:50 pm

As much as it pains me, the preview is “GSU fails to show up, loses 28-7″.

urinal and constipation reader

October 12th, 2012
1:58 pm

i was thinking a little closer than panther’s 28-7, this is the one, it one exists this yr.

Still think a GSU vs GSU should be a priority for both schools.

from the front page of ajc.com

October 12th, 2012
2:21 pm

“Clear weather for events, including the Pride Festival, a Falcons game and high school football in the Dome.”
I thought gag state was playing on the road this weekend? haahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha

Have to admit...

October 12th, 2012
4:23 pm

^ that was funny.

BTW, is the GSU-URI game streaming anywhere online?

Besides Panther Insider?

GSUALUM

October 12th, 2012
4:31 pm

Nice, now our players are insulting the host state for this weekends game, who is in charge?

Albert Wilson ‏@MrKeepEmFroze
@A_Smith85GSU just asked did Rhode Island have college. ( why are we here Alex? )

zgoldatl

October 12th, 2012
4:46 pm

Doug- Thanks for checking..I knew I read that somewhere lol.
GSUmensbball, thanks for providing the link

Tygoo

October 12th, 2012
9:06 pm

I will be in Tuscaloosa next year, dressed in blue! I grew up going to watch Bama, so this will be a fun game. Getting paid to be a sacrificial lamb for a football factory is good business. And playing good teams will help recruiting, not 5 star types, but 2 and 3 star recruits. Go Panthers!

Busted and Disgusted

October 15th, 2012
11:52 am

Stop worrying about who gonna show up in Dome and put your butts in seats. New coaching staff needed, yes. But, start supporting with attendence. Like it or not, the team needs fans to cheer for them. I comment and complain like everyone, but there every home game. Do that much for program and players, forget about the coaches. They get dealt with another way, FIRED!!!!! Support the team, This is HOME COMING!!!!! Dang!