GSU to Sun Belt? Not yet — updated

Sun Belt Commissioner Karl Benson said Georgia State is on his conference’s radar screen regarding expansion. Speaking to Tony Barnhart and Wes Durham on 790AM, Benson said that he  “is aware  of Georgia State and UNC-Charlotte, as they’ve already made the decision to go FBS.”

Reached in his office Friday afternoon, Benson said he misspoke about Georgia State’s intentions. Panthers athletic director Cheryl Levick has repeatedly said there are no existing plans to move up to FBS in football. Attempts to reach Levick through the sports information office today were unsuccessful.

The Sun Belt is an FBS-level conference whose geographic footprint extends from north Texas to western Kentucky to southern Florida. It currently has 10 teams in football and Benson said he would like to expand to at least 12, which would allow the conference to host a championship game.

Benson, who was introduced as Sun Belt Commissioner on Thursday after many years leading the Western Athletic Conference, told the “Barnhart and Durham”  show that the conference’s priority would be adding an existing FBS members. If they can’t lure existing FBS members, they could turn their attention to schools with FBS aspirations, such as Georgia State and Charlotte. You can listen to the interview here.

The Panthers are members of the Colonial Athletic Association, whose football teams play on the FCS level. The CAA’s football footprint stretches from Maine to Atlanta in football. Georgia State is about to being its first season as a football-playing member later this year.

Georgia State has a five-year football contract with the CAA that includes a $250,000 buyout.

If you’re curious how much it costs to be a member of the Sun Belt conference, here’s the total expenses, by sport, submitted by the schools to the Department of Education for the 2010 year:

Varsity Teams Men’s Teams Women’s Teams Total
Basketball $18,871,292 $13,253,455 $32,124,747
Football $54,234,076 $54,234,076
Archery
Badminton
Baseball $9,302,694 $9,302,694
Beach Volleyball
Bowling $0 $188,777 $188,777
All Track Combined $3,908,002 $5,236,976 $9,144,978
Diving
Equestrian
Fencing
Field Hockey
Golf $2,699,026 $2,848,117 $5,547,143
Gymnastics $0 $1,156,064 $1,156,064
Ice Hockey $2,373,885 $0 $2,373,885
Lacrosse $1,512,095 $968,859 $2,480,954
Rifle
Rodeo $61,344 $61,346 $122,690
Rowing
Sailing
Skiing $623,530 $623,530 $1,247,060
Soccer $1,638,307 $6,977,049 $8,615,356
Softball $5,163,285 $5,163,285
Squash
Swimming and Diving $717,986 $2,385,357 $3,103,343
Swimming $727,972 $926,231 $1,654,203
Synchronized Swimming
Table Tennis
Team Handball
Tennis $1,949,689 $3,589,953 $5,539,642
Track and Field, Indoor $135,050 $119,467 $254,517
Track and Field, Outdoor $140,243 $114,273 $254,516
Track and Field, X-Country $114,533 $139,984 $254,517
Volleyball $0 $6,556,249 $6,556,249
Water Polo
Weight Lifting
Wrestling
Other Sports
Total Expenses of all Sports,
Except Football and Basketball,Combined
(Men’s and Women’s Teams)
$25,904,356 $37,055,517 $62,959,873
Total Expenses Men’s and Women’s Teams $99,009,724 $50,308,972 $149,318,696

Here are the Revenues:

Varsity Team Men’s Teams Women’s Teams Total
Basketball $17,670,218 $12,166,861 $29,837,079
Football $56,678,431 $56,678,431
Archery
Badminton
Baseball $9,066,445 $9,066,445
Beach Volleyball
Bowling $0 $188,777 $188,777
All Track Combined $3,656,826 $5,352,983 $9,009,809
Diving
Equestrian
Fencing
Field Hockey
Golf $2,725,372 $2,659,237 $5,384,609
Gymnastics $0 $1,156,065 $1,156,065
Ice Hockey $2,373,884 $0 $2,373,884
Lacrosse $1,512,094 $968,859 $2,480,953
Rifle
Rodeo $61,344 $61,346 $122,690
Rowing
Sailing
Skiing $623,528 $623,528 $1,247,056
Soccer $2,205,621 $6,940,781 $9,146,402
Softball $5,225,000 $5,225,000
Squash
Swimming and Diving $1,208,427 $2,524,456 $3,732,883
Swimming $727,972 $926,232 $1,654,204
Synchronized Swimming
Table Tennis
Team Handball
Tennis $2,147,726 $3,439,860 $5,587,586
Track and Field, Indoor $130,486 $115,429 $245,915
Track and Field, Outdoor $135,504 $110,411 $245,915
Track and Field, X-Country $110,662 $135,253 $245,915
Volleyball $0 $6,159,901 $6,159,901
Water Polo
Weight Lifting
Wrestling
Other Sports
Total Revenues of all Sports,
Except Football and Basketball,Combined
(Men’s and Women’s Teams)
$26,685,891 $36,588,118 $63,274,009
Total Revenues Men’s and Women’s Teams $101,034,540 $48,754,979 $149,789,519

You’ll notice the football teams spent $54 million as a conference, and took in $57 million.

Here’s Georgia State’s expenses for the 2010-11 year:

Basketball $1,292,139 $1,195,567 $2,487,706
Football $4,266,691 $4,266,691
Total Expenses  Except Football and Basketball, Combined $1,844,423 $2,407,299 $4,251,722
Total Expenses Men’s and Women’s Teams $7,403,253 $3,602,866 $11,006,119
Not Allocated by Gender/Sport $11,672,067
Grand Total Expenses $22,678,186

Here are the revenues:

Total Revenues by Team
Varsity Teams Men’s Teams Women’s Teams Total
Basketball $1,417,072 $1,199,206 $2,616,278
Football $5,352,135 $5,352,135
Total Revenues, Except Football and Basketball, Combined $1,848,648 $2,395,797 $4,244,445
Total Revenues Men’s and Women’s Teams $8,617,855 $3,595,003 $12,212,858
Not Allocated by Gender/Sport $10,465,328
Grand Total for all Teams $22,678,186

Here’s the summary:

Revenues and Expenses Summary
Men’s Teams Women’s Teams Total
1 Total of Head Coaches’ Salaries $876,400 $522,000 $1,398,400
2 Total of Assistant Coaches’ Salaries $974,415 $467,502 $1,441,917
3 Total Salaries (Lines 1+2) $1,850,815 $989,502 $2,840,317
4 Athletically Related Student Aid $2,378,159 $1,380,098 $3,758,257
5 Recruiting Expenses $288,059 $112,117 $400,176
6 Operating (Game-Day) Expenses $2,863,720 $1,106,149 $3,969,869
7 Summary of Subset Expenses (Lines 3+4+5+6) $7,380,753 $3,587,866 $10,968,619
8 Total Expenses for Teams $7,403,253 $3,602,866 $11,006,119
9 Total Expenses for Teams Minus Subset Expenses $22,500 $15,000 $37,500
10 Not Allocated Expenses $11,672,067
11 Grand Total Expenses (Lines 8+10) $22,678,186
12 Total Revenues for Teams $8,617,855 $3,595,003 $12,212,858
13 Not Allocated Revenues $10,465,328
14 Grand Total Revenues (Lines 12+13) $22,678,186
15 Total Revenues for Teams minus Total Expenses for Teams $1,214,602 -$7,863 $1,206,739
16 Grand Total Revenues Minus Grand Total Expenses $0

Here’s the same information for Florida Atlantic, the closest approximation based upon geographic similarities that I could come up with to Georgia State for a Sun Belt member. I include this really as a talking point and it not meant to be an approximation of Georgia State’s revenue and expenses should it one day join the Sun Belt.

Total Expenses by Team
Varsity Teams Men’s Teams Women’s Teams Total
Basketball $1,341,372 $944,470 $2,285,842
Football $5,256,458 $5,256,458
Total Expenses of all Sports, Except Football and Basketball, Combined $1,631,925 $2,612,289 $4,244,214
Total Expenses Men’s and Women’s Teams $8,229,755 $3,556,759 $11,786,514
Not Allocated by Gender/Sport $3,817,491
Grand Total Expenses $15,604,005
CAVEAT
Total Revenues by Team
Varsity Teams Men’s Teams Women’s Teams Total
Basketball $734,450 $432,159 $1,166,609
Football $6,857,469 $6,857,469
Total Revenues  Except Football and Basketball, Combined $3,625,175 $3,759,560 $7,384,735
Total Revenues Men’s and Women’s Teams $11,217,094 $4,191,719 $15,408,813
Not Allocated by Gender/Sport $2,763,454
Grand Total for all Teams $18,172,267
CAVEAT
Revenues and Expenses Summary
Men’s Teams Women’s Teams Total
1 Total of Head Coaches’ Salaries $866,792 $452,848 $1,319,640
2 Total of Assistant Coaches’ Salaries $856,602 $320,280 $1,176,882
3 Total Salaries (Lines 1+2) $1,723,394 $773,128 $2,496,522
4 Athletically Related Student Aid $2,196,072 $1,678,956 $3,875,028
5 Recruiting Expenses $195,797 $64,437 $260,234
6 Operating (Game-Day) Expenses $2,298,062 $766,494 $3,064,556
7 Summary of Subset Expenses (Lines 3+4+5+6) $6,413,325 $3,283,015 $9,696,340
8 Total Expenses for Teams $8,229,755 $3,556,759 $11,786,514
9 Total Expenses for Teams Minus Subset Expenses $1,816,430 $273,744 $2,090,174
10 Not Allocated Expenses $3,817,491
11 Grand Total Expenses (Lines 8+10) $15,604,005
12 Total Revenues for Teams $11,217,094 $4,191,719 $15,408,813
13 Not Allocated Revenues $2,763,454
14 Grand Total Revenues (Lines 12+13) $18,172,267
15 Total Revenues for Teams minus Total Expenses for Teams $2,987,339 $634,960 $3,622,299
16 Grand Total Revenues Minus Grand Total Expenses $2,568,262

– Doug Roberson, AJC. Please follow me on twitter @ajcgsu.

65 comments Add your comment

VP

February 17th, 2012
2:48 pm

Baby steps are what we need.

We haven’t even played in our first CAA game yet, no need to go jumping to Division-I (I won’t call it the whatever goofy name NCAA came up with) just yet. We need at least 4-5 years at this level before looking for greener pastures.

Sluggo

February 17th, 2012
2:48 pm

What I would give to be the likes of UTSA and UNC Charlotte. Their ADs have foresight and vision and understand what’s in the best interest of their programs. Cheryl Levick appears to be holding this program back. We are getting pimped in the CAA and all she can say is “it’s a good league.” When asked of anything of significance regarding plans, etc we get “we’re working on it’” I’m sick of it.

Over-Under

February 17th, 2012
2:48 pm

Yeah, of course our AD would deny this because she sucks!! FIRE LEVIK!!!!

Sluggo

February 17th, 2012
2:49 pm

Four or five years at this level just like UNCC, UTSA, and USA right? Come on man, if you believe that then you must be part of GSU athletics.

Jee S. You

February 17th, 2012
3:05 pm

…and the ruse to deny what everyone with a brain (including Yeager) already knows is coming continues.

smh

GSU

February 17th, 2012
3:25 pm

Yeah, good idea. Post a new blog so the one about the spring game gets bumped.

zgoldAtl

February 17th, 2012
3:38 pm

I personally would be for a Sun Belt move as soon as possible. Better geographic fit, better opponents, several bowl tie ins, and a conference moving in the right direction.

Doug Roberson

February 17th, 2012
4:02 pm

Over-Under, it’s spelled Levick.

GSUBB

February 17th, 2012
4:42 pm

Doug, thanks for digging into this a bit more. I think a lot of us were surprised by the statement from Benson.

For those saying take baby steps. We do not have time for that. If we have any future aspirations to go FBS, we will have to make those known in the next 3 months or we will be left out in the cold.

Since the subdivision of Div I in 1980, no southern big city urban public university has played year 5 in FCS/I-AA. PERIOD.

Why do you think that is? Do you think GSU will be the first?

Doug Roberson

February 17th, 2012
4:45 pm

Richmond has. There are hbcus that have. Odu is year 4, right?

Brick Tamland

February 17th, 2012
4:55 pm

GSU

February 17th, 2012
4:57 pm

Southern in Baton Rouge, Samford in Birmingham, The Citadel and Charleston Southern in Charleston, UTC in Chattanooga, North Carolina A&T in Greensboro, Texas Southern in Houston, Jacksonville in Jacksonville, Tennessee State in Nashville, ODU and Norfolk State in Norfolk, Richmond in Richmond, Florida A&M in Tallahassee

All FCS schools who have or will play soon their 5th year in major urban markets without moving up.

hammer22

February 17th, 2012
5:24 pm

Cut the crap Levick

Stateside

February 17th, 2012
5:50 pm

Interesting that we get a retraction so soon. The Sun Belt is honestly looking like a pretty good fit. Hopefully this is just about keeping the talks hush-hush.

GSUBB

February 17th, 2012
6:59 pm

Richmond is not a public university is it? Neither are some of the ones @GSU mentions. Nor are most of those cities considered big by any means or their football programs started prior to 1980.

ODU is year 4, we will see where they land between now and June. Though I would be shocked if they did leave the CAA.

Panther

February 17th, 2012
7:19 pm

I think this means State has been in talks with the Sunbelt. I think he slipped up giving the game away…

AgentOrange

February 17th, 2012
7:40 pm

If Levick bothes this I will never give another dollar to that program.

Sluggo

February 17th, 2012
7:44 pm

Great compareables Doug. With regard to football, we are right there with FAU. Also consider the game against Bama or Tennesse would add an $600,000 if we were FBS. Definitely doable.

Doug Roberson

February 17th, 2012
8:08 pm

You are assuming they would pay $600k to an FBS school, which I’m not sure would happen. You also aren’t taking to account the added expense of 20 scholarships in football and the other add-ons that occur.

Sluggo

February 17th, 2012
8:18 pm

The going rate for a FBS “pay” game is a million dollars. As a FCS member that same game is only worth roughly $400,000. Just ask Savannah State who will play Oklahoma State this year for $385,000. FAU lined up 4 or 5 pay games last year bringing in over a million per game.

And you’re correct, expenses to fund additional scholarships will increase as well.

GSUBB

February 17th, 2012
8:51 pm

There is also the possibility for home and homes with big name schools that would double attendance. Look at the schools UTSA has coming to play in the Alamo dome. Arkansas just did a home and home with Rutgers. Are you telling me they would not rather have a game in Atlanta? Teams give up home games to play in Atlanta for the Kickoff.

Doug Roberson

February 17th, 2012
8:53 pm

If conference go to nine conference games, those payday games will likely disappear.

Gotta Love Southern Fans

February 17th, 2012
9:08 pm

Levick squashed this rumor so soon because she’s already in talks with the Big XII. You heard it here first.

Over-Under

February 17th, 2012
9:43 pm

I specifically left out the C because it reminded me of another word that resembles her……. If she can get us moved up all is forgiven. If not, she is worthless and needs to go.

zgoldAtl

February 17th, 2012
9:51 pm

Why would we notopenly say that we want to eventually move up? I hope talks progress. Seems like a good fit.

GSUGrad06

February 17th, 2012
9:55 pm

Nice update Doug! Thanks for digging up that information!

Georgia State Panther Athletics News

February 17th, 2012
10:44 pm

[...] GSU and the Sun Belt Conference might or might not have mutual interest in a conference affiliation. You be the judge. [...]

GSU_2012

February 17th, 2012
10:57 pm

This is very interesting. The thing I find most interesting is that Levick is not commenting on any of this. I would think that she would at least come out and confirm that a mistake was made on a pretty big radio show about the commitment of our program to the CAA. As much as some people on this blog hate her, I do not believe that she is stupid. Her hires have been good (crowning achievement is Ron Hunter). I also feel like the silence from the Athletic Department could be something revealing. Why not publicly state that this was misspoken? I try not to look into these things so much, but it does seem as if something is going on behind the curtain that could be revealed soon. If it is not, then I would love it for our AD and the department as a whole to be much more clear with the intentions of the program. If you do not want to move us to the FBS, give us reasons and a timeframe. The ambiguous nature of this whole thing grows tiresome.

One last thing, while I think that ODU has a strong Athletic Program I think it is understated how much these conferences care little about Athletic Program and so much about our media market. ODU is in a media market that is 43th in the nation, we are the 9th. We should use this to our absolute advantage.

RidgeRunner

February 17th, 2012
11:04 pm

Something is wrong with the numbers. Besides why in hell do we want to go from a very good conference with v good academics to a conference who’s academics are questionable, basketball is sub par and football that is fbs in name only. More happy where we are.

Panama

February 18th, 2012
1:16 am

Doug? Which HBCU is in Top 25 DMA and has over 30k students? We’re talking about schools like GSU in downtowns of metros like Atlanta. UCF? USF? FIU? FAU? UTSA? USA? UAB?

ODU is borderline. But they will not be FCS much longer as the Alliance is looking at them,

Panama

February 18th, 2012
1:19 am

The point is that FCS has never worked long for big publics in big cities. Just take a look at the FCS attendance figures.

Bleeding_Blue

February 18th, 2012
1:27 am

Levick did the right thing denying it. No reason to completely alienate our programs from the CAA if the Sun Belt expansion doesn’t include us. The Sun Belt commish said it, so you know they’re talking to us. Some people are just looking for someone to be mad at even before anything happens.

Doug Roberson

February 18th, 2012
8:56 am

Panama, there are also lots of FBS schools in big, and small, cities that haven’t worked. Lots and lots and lots. I guess I’m saying beware what you wish for. It takes a lot more in fundraising and infrastructure than yall have right now. It takes a lot more in attendance than yall generate right now. To assume that by simply adding the hyphenated “FBS-level Georgia State” to your name will automatically change those things is wrong. Your neighbors a few minutes up Spring Street are can’t consistently sell out regular football games or basketball games.

Drew Little

February 18th, 2012
9:23 am

Doug,
I agree with you that it is not an automatic attendance booster. Comparing us to that school half our size full of nerds is a stretch though. I believe the frustration here stems from all of us wanting GSU to grow and flourish and this is how we think it will happen. Unfortunately sports is about the only thing that gains you national recognition quickly (outside of IVY league schools). Let’s be honest, if say Auburn University did not have sports programs the entire nation wouldn’t know the difference between them and Shorter University (no disrespect). There are about 20 schools in the nation that are known for their academics and the rest are completely interchangeable. Until just last year 90% of the country couldn’t tell you what VCU stood for and probably 95% still couldn’t tell you where they are located. Most of us are just hoping in our lifetime when we travel somewhere and say we went to GSU the first thing people say next is, “Where is that?”

Drew Little

February 18th, 2012
9:25 am

Sorry last sentence should read: Most of us are just hoping in our lifetime when we travel somewhere and say we went to GSU the first thing people DON’T say next is, “Where is that?”

Truth

February 18th, 2012
10:34 am

Damn, Cheryl. Maybe if there were $1000 pair of shoes on the other side of the rainbow of fundraising you might work a little harder.

Panama

February 18th, 2012
11:04 am

Doug I get what youre saying> What I am talking about is what I can promise you 100% will not happen. By the time we get to year 5 people will not be buying season tickets to see GSU vs. Towson. I am not saying I wont because obviously I am some sort of idiot/masochist to still be around here 25 years after first setting foot on campus when I could go root for someone else. But the masochists are few and far between, The expectation of most, this is what I have heard for three years, is that since we play in the Dome and have a former FBS coach and a whole bunch of former FBS assistants we must be going somewhere. Why else they would ask, would you do that when you could hire an unknown assistant and play in Herndon Stadium? The problem is that with all the competition in big cities from AQ football, NFL, NBA, MLB and general entertainment, FCS is unpopular. Villanova averaged 7k a game in their FCS Championship season. Our attendance which most thought was horrible last year, would have ranked 4th in the CAA last year. Our first year attendance in 2010, would have ranked 3rd. So either you stay FCS and move to a 20k to 25k seat facility or you start making your case for one of these FBS postions that may open up. Then at least you can sign future home and home or 2 and 1 OOC games with big name opponents such as UTSA has done. Either or. Right now we’re a schizophrenic duck. We walk like a duck and bark like a dog.

My Athletic fee is what??

February 18th, 2012
11:40 am

So, I guess we cancelled the spring game to help cover the CAA exit fee.

Pennsylvania CAA Fan

February 18th, 2012
12:12 pm

I hire from all over the country and the CAA has a good rep. Going to a conf for atheletics is silly. People would say typical southern school– atheletics over academics. Would you rather hire a WM grad or Ark State? Troy or Mason? Floriday International or Drexel? C’mon this is silly. What about the other 25,000 (guess) that go to GSU that actually need jobs after they grad. People may not know GSU in NY or PA but they know the CAA. Move to the sunbelt and keep the sterotype alive and well. I am sure the ULM Warhawks really standout on a resume

Pennsylvania CAA Fan

February 18th, 2012
12:16 pm

sorry for the typo

GSU Men's BB Fan

February 18th, 2012
12:26 pm

I wonder how much these numbers will change when we begin playing football in the CAA this coming season? I would only expect them to rise. Flying to every conference game will not be cheap. At least in the Sun Belt we could take a bus to Middle Tennessee State and Troy.

Pennsylvania CAA Fan

February 18th, 2012
12:32 pm

Perhaps a Sunbelt grad will be your bus driver.. sorry couldnt resist and no offense to any bus drivers

Drew Little

February 18th, 2012
12:48 pm

@ PA CAA Fan. Really? UofD is KNOWN as the party school that the Jersey Riff Raff goes to when they cannot get into Rutgers. No one has ever heard of Drexel, Towson, and everyone thinks Northeastern as an online school like Phoenix. Old Dominion and GMU have zero street cred academically. See how stereotypes work? Again 20 nationally good schools academically (one in Georgia btw Emory) and the rest don’t matter. You are letting your geographic location cloud your judgment as we all do.

Panama

February 18th, 2012
1:02 pm

There are no bus trips in the CAA even for Olympic (non football) sports. We missed the boat a long long time ago as far as peer universities as evidenced by the fact that Memphis, Central Florida, South Florida and Houston are now all in the Big East. So we’re left in a football first region (sorry Drexel) trying to create rivalries with Rhode Island and Delaware. Our closest conference games in CAA football are 9.5 hours away driving. Our final game against Maine is 23 hours (that’s not a typo) away. You could drive to Monterrey, Mexico in less time (22 hours). I think anyone who has seen our basketball team fade in the last 5 weeks after road trips realizes the toll being a conference outlier is taking. And Pennsylvania CAA fan, FIU has 45k students and has won two bowl games the last two years and is a former conference rival of ours that our alumni would recognize and come out to the Dome for in larger numbers than to see Richmond.

Pennsylvania CAA Fan

February 18th, 2012
1:50 pm

My point is that academics matter for those graduates who need a job. CAA is better by all objective rankings (including even the maligned US News). I am sure someone from Ark State (regional rank of 63) will differ and think the football program helps grads get jobs. GSU is better off in the CAA.

Panama

February 18th, 2012
2:58 pm

@Pennsylvania CAA Fan

We are not better off in a conference with opponents 10 to 23 hours away. Fans cant get to games and whats worse NOBODY cares about the opponents. How many grads of CAA schools live in Atlanta vs. grads of Sun Belt and CUSA schools? I am sorry but Ark State is coached by Gus Malzhan. People here know who he is. This is football country. That is a far more compelling matchup in Atlanta than playing William & Mary. Sorry.

Panther

February 18th, 2012
3:29 pm

@CAAfan

I really like the CAA, I do. I think academically it is great, and athletically I agree, I think it’s a great place to be. Good basketball and good football. But the first problem is traveling. It’s always going to be hard to compete when the distances are so long, it’s an extra hassle that nobody else in the conference has to deal with, and frankly us doing so well in basketball this year is all the more shocking because of it. Imagine how well of we’d be if we were in Virginia. Secondly, if the conference were already FBS I would be much more inclined to stay. But as it happens, it’s not, and because of that we aren’t on the highest level of football and so it is hard to say we compare to our regional academic public competition (Tech and UGA) when we are a level below them at anything. We need to move to FBS so that we can say we are a major school in Georgia. Yes, as a research university we are on their level, but you know in the South athletics come first, as bad as that may be. That’s why we want this.

GSU is in Atlanta

February 18th, 2012
5:08 pm

CAA Fan, How does the conference you are in determine how good your school is academically? You get hired somewhere b/c you went to GSU, not b/c you are in the CAA. Vandy is in the SEC, Rice & Tulane are in C-USA. Please tell me that athletic conferences really matter in the academic scheme of things. It’s not like we are competing in debate competitions or IQ tests, it’s sports that we are playing each other in and the CAA does not fit for us a school located in Atlanta. The CAA doesn’t make us a better or worse academic institution and the Sun Belt won’t either.

Pennsylvania CAA Fan

February 18th, 2012
5:11 pm

Valid points. All well taken. GSU isn’t ranked in most reports and it is in a conference that will pull them up in academic reputation. I live in Phila and we play Northeastern which is 7 hours away (on a good day) and Charlotte that is 8 ish. I get it. But I’d rather be in the CAA than play Univ Md Eastern Shore or Univ of Baltimore b/c they are closer. I have been interested in recent GSU items b/c I thought it was a neat story with Hunter and football. I also read about good things that the school has done in the arts, law school, business and public policy. I kind of thought there was hope for a good smaller southern university that wasn’t all about sports. While that is important — it is only a part of college.

Panama – there ha to be a ton of CAA grads in a city the size of Atlanta. Olympic City etc? Biggest and best city in the south? The school could be better than Tech and UGA in many academic areas or it can be Ark State (63rd best regional university). Surround yourself with excellence is all I am saying. In the sun belt you get neither academics or athletics. Hey it is up to your school and I have not stake in the fight.

Pennsylvania CAA Fan

February 18th, 2012
5:16 pm

Sorry — wrong reputation means a lot. Ask the HR folks. GSU has no ranking in any reputable ranking system.. At least being associated with better schools they will be pulled up by “association.” It happens. I have heard it about other schools a milliopns times. It may be wrong but when you have a less than well know school whey not try and hang with the better schools.