GSU and the CAA, part II

Greetings, all

Hope you are well. I said last week after the blog post about my interview with CAA commissioner Tom Yeager that I’d get to the rest of what I wanted to get to, so here it is.

I don’t think Georgia State is going anywhere but the CAA, and that’s coming from athletic director Cheryl Levick. She said that one of the conditions for joining the league for football was a six-year commitment.

“We’ve made a firm commitment with the CAA when we joined the conference that FCS is where we need to go and I believe that,” she said. “We need to walk before we can run.”

Yeager also said that there was a clear understanding between Georgia State and the CAA that the conference would not be, in his words, “a way station” on the road to FBS.

“We are very focused and very happy with what we’re doing with FCS,” Levick said. “We know what we want to do and everything we do is to try to get as good as we can get in the FCS. We know the conference we’re walking into – it’s the toughest conference. I’m so excited we’re in that (league) because we need to put together a program. That’s what I’m trying to do here.”

Bill Curry sounded a similar note, saying he is “thrilled and challenged beyond measure to be in the CAA.”

A couple things to consider. It certainly appears that Rhode Island is out the door, which renders the 12-team, two-division format moot. Second, it could well be that the other New England schools – New Hampshire and Maine could well follow suit in the next few years. I’m not saying it’s going to happen, just that it makes a certain amount of sense.

Cost is a concern in particular for the New England schools and tacking on flights to Atlanta and Norfolk, Va., isn’t going to make things any easier. I’d wonder if New Hampshire and Maine, who play in stadiums seating 8,000 and 10,000, respectively, would look around and think that the league looks less and less like them.

Further, the Northeast Conference is ramping up – it started as a non-scholarship league and is now at 40 scholarships. (The FCS limit is 63.) This year, it will have its first automatic bid into the FCS playoffs. Also, in a Boston Globe article I linked earlier in the week, UMass may be considering following the path to FBS set by UConn.

“We have to realize our potential as the state’s flagship campus, and a part of that has to be improving athletics — be like what Ohio State is for Ohio and what the Madison campus is for Wisconsin,’’ UMass Amherst Chancellor Robert Holub said. “If we act more like a flagship, then the funding will come.’’

So potentially, the league could eventually be GSU, the four Virginia schools, Towson, Delaware and Villanova, which might also leave the conference for the Big East. There’s the possibility that Charlotte could join after it starts in 2013. (Though that would presumably mean the 49ers would start conference play in 2015, which would be Georgia State’s fourth season out of its six-year commitment.)

A lot of things have to happen to get there, but if they did, the league would obviously look a lot different than it does now. One remaining flaw is that none of the schools are drivable for all but the most diehard fans, but I imagine this scenario is more palatable for many of you than the current one.

The other thing is, I don’t think the Southern Conference is an alternative. For one, Georgia State has committed itself to the CAA. Two, I think the fact that there are 12 teams in the Southern Conference (except for football, in which there are nine) makes it a non-starter. Someone would have to leave for it to be an option. Jason Yaman, a spokesman for the league, said there haven’t been any discussions about expansion/contraction since Elon joined in 2006.

Are there ways that it would make a lot of sense for Georgia State to be in the SoCon and not the CAA? Yes. But that doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.

113 comments Add your comment

PantherMike

October 28th, 2010
8:09 am

Thanks Ken, for the insight. Was not aware of a six-year deal. I agree with our AD about the walk before you run concept. By 2017, we should find out a lot about our program, our support (alums and students), and our funding. We may be attractive to a D-1 conference at that time…like Conference USA.
I’m more worried about our hoops team being competitive in the CAA. Looks like we’re taking a couple of steps backwards. We shall see! Go Panthers!

Ken Sugiura

October 28th, 2010
8:14 am

thanks, mike.

GSUtimes2

October 28th, 2010
8:19 am

Good points and well taken. I guess we’ll see how we do in the CAA. I am still concerned that having so many away games that are undriveable hinders our ability to continually grow a fan base. It’d be one thing if the games are always available on TV. As I can imagine, no one will want to make the haul to Maine or UMass, nor will a TV station want to carry it locally in GA for that matter.

GSUGrad06

October 28th, 2010
8:23 am

Ken – Did you mean FCS in this quote? (I hope not but afraid so)

“We’ve made a firm commitment with the CAA when we joined the conference that FCS is where we need to go and I believe that,” she said. “We need to walk before we can run.”

GSUGrad06

October 28th, 2010
8:24 am

Woops, I see you fixed it.

Hammer22

October 28th, 2010
8:47 am

If the AD is serious, today is the day they just pooped on a lot of alums’ dreams. It’s really flabbergasting in all honesty.

GSU

October 28th, 2010
8:56 am

UTSA has the right approach–GSU, not so much. I can’t believe we are going to sit back and “see what happens.”

GSUGrad06

October 28th, 2010
8:58 am

“One remaining flaw is that none of the schools are drivable for all but the most diehard fans, but I imagine this scenario is more palatable for many of you than the current one.”

Not palatable for me. Being in Atlanta and having all the other sports options around, I’m not sure you can build a strong fan base without the possibility to REASONABLY drive to at least a couple away games. We’re looking at a minimum of 10 hours for the closest game, until Charlotte joins, if they even do by that point. I think in order to keep people interested, as well as build rivalries, you need to play some opponents that are close enough to see the game with no or one overnight stay required with a drive.

If we were in Statesboro or Boone, NC I think FCS would be fine ;-) . Not in Atlanta.

Jothcra

October 28th, 2010
9:00 am

I sure hope the CAA isn’t the final resting place for GSU… if it is, then we can kiss fan support goodbye. Who’s going to be able to (or even want to) travel 1000 miles for an away game? Furthermore, who would want to come to the Dome to watch GSU versus William and Mary when Tech is playing Notre Dame or UGA is playing Florida? Not a smart move.

'91 Panther

October 28th, 2010
9:10 am

I honestly think they’re missing the point. I’m perfectly happy with the Panthers staying in FCS. I just would like to see them play in a conference that is southern based. I’d rather see them be a top dog in the FCS, than a scrub team in something like Conference USA. Playing against the likes of Maine, Delaware, and Towson doesn’t exactly stir up the emotions. If they are serious about growing their fanbase, they will need to reconsider their affilliation. Games against the likes of Georgia Southern, Furman, and Appalachian State would draw more people. Curry and Levich need to do whatever they have to do to get the Panthers in SoCon. You can’t tell me the head of that conference wouldn’t love to get into the Atlanta market.

GSU

October 28th, 2010
9:15 am

Ken, I’m sure there’s a buy-out clause in this contract, would you happen to know what that dollar amount is?

Fire Rodney Ho

October 28th, 2010
9:25 am

Lots of things can change in the next 3 years, let alone the next 6. There’s going to more conference shake-ups, and for now GSU needs to focus on winning, building fan support, and enhancing facilities. If we take care of business on our end and become FBS worthy, the rest will take care of itself.

Disheartened

October 28th, 2010
9:30 am

I will be reconsidering all donations next year based on these comments.

GoGSU

October 28th, 2010
9:33 am

6 years in the CAA worries me. That’s 6 years, the FIRST 6 years of GSU’s football program, the CRITICAL first six years. that must be spent in a far flung conference whose members (nothing personal, CAA schools) hold no interest, sports-wise, for most people. Those games will never compete for attention with BCS games going around all around GSU on Saturdays. Playing what is essentially seen as JV college football, will make establishing a fan base and demonstrable enthusiasm for GSU football, essential if we are ever to be invited to join a FBS conference, extremely difficult. Sure, start in FCS, that’s the NCAA rule, but start in an environment that is condusive to growth, not one that is guaranteed to hinder it.

AD Levick and GSU President Becker both come from major conference universities. Do they really believe that football games in New England, or against teams that few are familiar with here in Atlanta, is the best way for GSU to build it’s football program? Maybe they need to be reminded that GSU really has no fan base at all right now, and that one won’t be built unless GSU provides something that a fan base would want.

And finally, if GSU football withers while in the CAA, Former GSU President Carl Patton will tell everyone that he was right–that football wouldn’t work at GSU. Never mind that it was his choice of the CAA that gave GSU football a huge mountain to climb right out of the box. It would have been a much more favorable situation to get GSU into the SoCon (we could have joined but they wanted football, so they took Elon instead) or as a FCS football independent. Then we could build recognition by playing schools much closer geographically and schools much more recognizeable to GSU students and alums. Schools with established athletics programs that would have been of local interest, and students could actually go to the games. But Patton was always against football, so in a way, he’s still getting his wish. Levick and Becker: Is he still in charge of GSU or are you? You guys can fix this mistake.

GSU Mens BB Fan

October 28th, 2010
9:43 am

Ken, you sure know what topics will get the GSU fan base riled up and commenting frequently on your blog. Like “GSU” (the fan) above, I would like to know how much the buy-out clause is the CAA contract is worth. I can’t imagine GSU (the school) would not answer the phone if a FBS conference comes calling, just because of our 6 year commitment.

I also think Yeager’s “way station” comment is interesting. It almost tells me that there has been at least some discussion between, Yeager, the CAA, and GSU (the school), about the future and direction of the program. Something must have been said, mentioned, or impressed upon between GSU (the school) and the CAA in order for both parties to come to their “understanding.” After the CAA got stabbed in the back by the University of Richmond in the early 2000s and the conference almost folded, the CAA seems to be very sensitive to its membership affiliation. I wonder if the CAA threatened to boot GSU if GSU didn’t come to an “understanding?”

All of this potential moving and shaking this offseason makes me curious about your blog this offseason. I know you said you likely won’t be writing about the basketball team. But will you be keeping us updated about things related to GSU football like conference affilitions and future membership? It is nice to have someone local keeping us update to on the status of the CAA – particuarly since most of the news sources are from up north. Also curious about your blog and its coverage of things “on the field” – any plans to follow recruiting, National Signing Day, Spring practices, and the Spring game?

Thanks,

Debbie Downer

October 28th, 2010
9:46 am

You mean the ESPN.com coverage and ESPN the Magazine cover are not enough to join the Big East like I heard about? No one in Atlanta cares about D1aa so I hope they’re just lying to Yeager.

GSU Mens BB Fan

October 28th, 2010
9:51 am

@Disheartened – if you do in fact lower your donation amount next season. Make sure they know why. The last thing we need them to start saying is “well our donations have dropped…so we don’t think we could do FBS…because our donations (aka support) have went down.” We need to them to know donations (aka support) will be there if a plan for FBS is introduced, and move is made.

Goose

October 28th, 2010
9:55 am

I’ll contribute $ to the buy out fund.

Goose

October 28th, 2010
9:57 am

and next year we have no recognizable opponents once again at home…and we’re going to play Lambuth again? should I even consider getting season tix again? I’m really upset about the future. UTSA has a plan. USA has a plan. We have nothing. At least stay as an independent.

GSU Mens BB Fan

October 28th, 2010
9:58 am

Ken, another thought. I know you can’t predict the future, or read the minds of the AJC brass. But in your opinion, what kind of coverage would the AJC give GSU if it were to stay FCS and in the CAA for the next 6 years? I can’t imagine it would be as high as it is right now, ’cause I would expect the “care” factor to decrease over FCS football. What’s your opinion?

Goose

October 28th, 2010
9:59 am

By the 4th year, attendance will be less than men’s bball

English

October 28th, 2010
10:00 am

We’ll be fine. However long we’re in the CAA. We’ve got a solid 16k of fans in our inaugural year and that will only grow. What will 6 years of CAA play equate to – 30k, 45k, 60k? We will improve and grow. We’re going to play Alabama this year and we’re going to get our clock cleaned and that will be a stark reminder to us alums that we’re not ready “yet” to be in the FBS. I strongly feel we’ll be FBS at some point. The frustration is when. We’ll get there. GSU Football is not going to implode. I strongly feel people associated with GSU will put us in the best possible position. I mean we’re not one of the nation’s best business schools for no reason. Let’s trust the administrations and not create a mutiny yet. Teams like ODU, JMU, UMass, Richmond and W&M are solid programs. They’re not UGA, Pitt, ND, Ohio State but we were born yesterday. In the literal sense of our newness. If you alums are upset and won’t support GSU then throw your degree out. I bleed blue and will be rooting for the Panthers regardless.

Let’s go State!
Beat USA!

GSU Mens BB Fan

October 28th, 2010
10:07 am

I agree with English. I’m not going to NOT support the program because they stay with FCS. Because it is still my alma mater and heck I supported the basketball team this long and they’ve had some hard times. But I’m just saying that if any alums out there do feel that they need to revise their donations because of this, then please make a point to make sure the Admin knows why you are revising your donations.

GSU

October 28th, 2010
10:08 am

If the plan is to wait and see if the lower bowl is full or to wait and see if donations pick up then that’s a flawed plan. First of all, our athletic and football budgets are on par with other lower-tier FBS schools. This whole let’s wait and see where to go from here mentality will cause GSU to lose A LOT of support.

Why make an FBS move contingent on success in the CAA–heck, if most schools did that they probably would not have moved up? Why can’t you set out to build a solid program, but also make it known you want to play at the highest level? We have over 31K students paying an additional $85 per semester for football. The least you can do is aim to play at the highest level. Maybe then more than 1,800 would show up for a game. If true, this is slowly becoming a JOKE!

GSU

October 28th, 2010
10:13 am

My support will be there for season tickets only. As far as donating to PAC again…no thank you. I need to see measurable steps and know where my money is going–obviously it’s not going towards FBS football.

Goose

October 28th, 2010
10:17 am

Unless we just dominate the CAA, I don’t see how this plan works out in our favor. No casual fan in the state of Georgia cares enough to even watch a second of GSU football but if we play App St, Furman, and GA Southern you know at least some will watch and come to the Dome. How is the 16k attendance figure going to rise from here on out? I guarantee next years season opener will be around 20k max. I’m waiting to see the schedule for next year. I care about this program, but even I’m tired of seeing us play the Lambuth’s and NCCU’s.

English

October 28th, 2010
10:28 am

@ Goose, it’ll rise because GSU Football will become a strong interwoven part of our university. Our students/alums will care because it reflects directly on our degree and school pride. GSU Football will succeed. I promise. We’re not going to be playing the Shorters/Lambuth’s after next year. Opponents team strength will only going to get better.

We’re not going to be SEC. We’re not going to be ACC. IMO we’ll probably average around 50,000 a game in 10 years. That’s a major difference. Will we average the astronomical numbers the SEC/Big Ten/Big Twelve do? Not in my opinion.

Go State!

GSUGrad06

October 28th, 2010
10:29 am

Before everyone starts talking about pulling donations back, let’s think about a few things.

Due to several reasons we cannot even talk about playing FBS until 2014 at the earliest so this six-year “commitment” puts us at 2016, it’s only two additional years assuming they don’t buy out of the agreement early. After breathing for a second, my thought is there’s no point on going to ill grounds with the CAA before we have a FBS plan figured out. Levick and Becker aren’t going to upset the CAA by saying “yes we know we signed this agreement but we plan on bailing as soon as we’re able to” until they know where they can bail to.

Point is, I’m going to have more faith in our administration until they show me why I shouldn’t. Even though UTSA and USA did so, not having an FBS plan announced by the time we step foot into our first game doesn’t constitute a failure. 2014/2015 rolls around and still no word or rumors floating around about an FBS conference and I’ll start getting worried.

Everytime I go back to the book, the turtle always wins the race.

Ken Sugiura

October 28th, 2010
10:32 am

don’t know what the buy-out is. i’ve been intending to look into it.
i wouldn’t necessarily equate what Levick and Becker have said with not having a plan. I believe their hope/plan is to get into FBS – saying that they have to walk before they can run suggests as much. They have tended towards being guarded in their comments, perhaps because they don’t want to throw their plans in the CAA’s face, and perhaps also because they don’t know how this will play out. Saying things like “We want to be FBS in five years” can come back to haunt you. That said, there’s also the risk of leaving your constituency in the dark, fearing the worst, as many of your comments might indicate.
I’d say this about the CAA travel. Not being able to drive to away games is a downer, but I don’t know that it’s a strong determinant in the program’s success. I don’t deny it helps in building a fan base, but I’d think that if the team became strong and routinely made the playoffs, that would be more important than anything. Am I off base here?
BB fan, I think you are right about conversations between GSU and CAA about FBS. That’s how he made it sound.
One thing I wonder is how many options GSU really had. Even if the Southern Conference would have loved to have had GSU, it doesn’t mean it could have made it happen. Have you ever heard of a conference kicking out one school to take on another? That sounds like a lawsuit.
Going independent would have been one possibility. It would allow much more flexibility in planning for the future, but I wonder if finding quality opponents would have been an even bigger problem that way.
Also, BB fan, I’d like to keep tabs on GSU football after the season ends. And I don’t know what our coverage plans for football will be going forward. My guess is like yours, that it probably won’t be as much as this year and would to some degree depend onm performance/attendance.

Humphrey

October 28th, 2010
10:43 am

I guess I am in the minority because I don’t want to move to the FBS, at least not for a long while (maybe 10-15 years). I would rather compete for championships than go to C-USA and compete for a chance to play in the papajohns.com bowl. I love the playoff format, especially now that they have increased the number of teams. Our schedule will have some pretty tough competition once we begin CAA play and I can’t wait to go to the dome when we play teams like Villanova and UMass.

Humphrey

October 28th, 2010
10:45 am

BTW, Thanks Ken. Love the coverage.

Boz

October 28th, 2010
10:54 am

GSU will never be anything except a doormat in the FBS. The cost to be successful at that level is far, far beyond anything GSU could ever come up with. In the FCS, however, GSU could be a perennial champion. I’d rather be a championship FCS team with 10,000 people in the stands than a loser FBS teams with 5,000 in the stands. Plus, as soon as you go to FBS standards and start recruiting against Tech, Georgia, and Auburn, you can forget about any one of them ever playing you–so no big pay day, either. The CAA isn’t going to last 6 years, so there are no worries on that point. Plus there are new teams either forming or playing now (Kennesaw, UNC-Charlotte, South Alabama, Lamar, Texas-San Antonio, and possibly more). There is going to be realignment in the FCS just like in the FBS. Be patient. GSU will be a valuable addition to any FCS league.

GSUGrad06

October 28th, 2010
10:56 am

Humphrey – Barring some complete collapse of the Big East this year or Villanova shutting it’s doors, you can pretty much bet you won’t be seeing Villanova play GSU in the Dome. They’ll be playing teams such as South Florida, West Virginia, Pitt and Louisville in the Big East.

egeagle

October 28th, 2010
11:08 am

We went the independent route back in the day. It was a mixed bag because we established some good rivalries with quality programs like MTSU, Western Kentucky, and others. We had a tougher time reaching the playoffs and had to travel a lot in the early years. We already had series started with a few SoCon schools before we joined in 91 or 92. We’ve had this exact debate many times throughout the years. I like being competitive in a major FCS conference and having goals of championships and playoff appearances instead of doing homecoming tours and hoping and wishing to get into a pizza or nut bowl. I tend to agree with your fan Humphrey. Those who will attack folks like us aren’t as interested in football and competition as in seeing their school’s name in lights or blogs. Know this: Georgia Southern morphed from a good, but small, school of 6700, to a univeresity with an enrollment approaching 18000. Football fueled the majority of that growth.

GSUGrad06

October 28th, 2010
11:10 am

Boz – GSU’s football budget for this season was around $4.5M. Just throwing this out there, Boise State’s budget is $6.2M. In our first season we’re at over 70% of Boise’s budget. How can you say the cost to be successful at FBS is far beyond anything GSU could ever come up with? GSU is the second largest university in Georgia and has a huge alumni base in the state.

English

October 28th, 2010
11:11 am

GSU Football will succeed – bottom line.

Go State!

coachx

October 28th, 2010
11:26 am

Nice write up.

I don’t know whats up with all the trolls. I thought GSU was better then that.

I see no problem giving 6 year comittment to the CAA considering we are a start up program. They are toughest conference to play in. Its not like the Southern Conference has an open spot for GSU right not any way.

It would be great to see a rivalry start with Georgia Southern. That could get the Dome sold out and be great exposure to both programs in terms of keeping players in GA.

Go STATE !
Congrats to the team and Curry for a great start !

Boz

October 28th, 2010
11:36 am

GSUGrad06. I don’t know what Boise’s football budget is but it has to be more than 6 million. Not that it matters, because we’re not in Idaho. In Georgia you have to compete for fan dollars and fan attention with schools like the University of Georgia. UGA will clear $20 million this year from its SEC media contract and a similar amount from its own media, endorsements, etc. UGA plays 6 home games a year (not counting Jax) and sells 90,000 seats at $90 a ticket and up (not counting a few thousand student tickets). There is simply no possibility that GSU will be able to compete with that. I don’t want to be another UAB, a struggling, red-headed stepchild. I want to win, and GSU will never compete for a FBS championship. Any by the way, Boise won’t either.

GSU Alum '10

October 28th, 2010
11:39 am

GSU has been in the CAA for 5 years now so that is the most logical decision to join them in football (and well over a year old), probably the best FCS conference for the past few years. How many of you complaining about being in the CAA have supported other GSU sports over the years? Fan support will grow and games will be televised, many of the CAA teams are in comcast markets. I would love for GSU to move to something liek the C-USA, Sun Belt or even MAC once everything is stable.

Panama

October 28th, 2010
11:53 am

Trying to take a deep breath about this…really I am. There is of course the fact that we could not move up to FBS before 2013 even if we wanted to. You have to be in FCS 4 years before a divisional move to FBS. So are they paying lip service and toeing the CAA line? More than likely. So we need to be patient for now.

…for now

GSUtimes2

October 28th, 2010
11:54 am

@Humphrey–Hahahaha, papajohns.com bowl. What about the Meineke Car Care .com bowl?! :)

Ok, look. I don’t like the fact that travel sucks for CAA away games. But, ask yourself “what is the best conference in all of FCS?” The answer is CAA. Who, outside of App State, really aspires to go to FBS from the SoCon? Elon?..Citadel?? Right. Yes, it would be nice for now to have close rivals, but in the end, we need to show we can beat the big boys of the FCS if we are going to get an invite to FBS. The CAA is a stepping stone, and I agree that Levick/GSU is playing their cards close to their chest. I don’t think there is any reason to start pulling donations until we have given them enough time to let whatever plan they have unfold.

Secondarily, I agree that USA has a plan, and they’ve made that abundantly clear. But, playing an abnormal load of NAIA teams on their way to the FBS is only going to result in USA getting throttled when they arrive. Is it a plan? Yeah, but I don’t think it’s a very good one.

Panama

October 28th, 2010
12:18 pm

I think USA’s plan is to progressively make their schedule more challenging. They have until 2013 after all. I believe they have NCState on next years schedule and are adding other FBS schools in 2012. Our plan is different because we are planning to move to the most competitive FCS league in 2012 so we have less ramp up time.

Panama

October 28th, 2010
12:26 pm

What is frustrating a lot of folks is that we’re starting up in the same time frame as South Alabama and UT-San Antonio and both of those schools have clear concise plans and time lines to reach FBS. In addition they are both filling their future with FBS opponents. So it is natural to wonder why not us. But we need to be patient and realize that our current administration was stuck with a commitment not of their doing and choosing. So we need to deal with our current situation and hopefully the stars will align in our favor. I cannot believe I just said that since I was voted “Most Likely To Park a Ryder Truck Filled With Fertilizer at CAA Headquarters”. But serious, we do not know what the conference landscape will look like in 6 months much less 6 years. Right now we have nowhere to go since we cannot move for 4 years. Now if in say Spring 2013 someone first name COO last name SA (C-USA) were to call us and we still do nothing, yeah I will be more than livid then.

CURIOUS PANTHER

October 28th, 2010
12:31 pm

Boz: I agree with you because it is a lot easier for Boise State to be successful since they are the flagship university of the state. They don’t have to compete with any other university for dollars or fans. With Georgia State, there is always UGA, Tech, Auburn, Tennessee, Alabama and on and on. The pro sports teams and the overall entertainment that you have in Atlanta as compared to Idaho. I think it is smart on the AD’s part to play the wait and see game because you don’t know how this will shape up. GSU has the potential to be successful in football and 2012 will definitely show if they are ready. All these freshmen will have had two years of playing experience and I’m sure there will be a few FBS transfers added.

ATLNative

October 28th, 2010
1:38 pm

Under the “GSU can’t compete with AU, UGA, GT, etc. for recruits” logic, USF and UCF would not be where they’re at either – considering the State of Florida already had 3 BCS schools. There are PLENTY of recruits all over the South to go around and I disagree that GSU’s future has anything to do with not being a “flagship state university”.

The administration just gave Ken the standard PR response. That’s all they can say, legally – otherwise the CAA brass would have a coronary.

VSU Alumnus

October 28th, 2010
2:35 pm

Fellas………..Concentrate on winning a few more games between the white lines and less on conferences etc and everything else will take care of itself. Build slow and sure. Play in state games and build a presence state wide. Invite coaches and recruits to these games and build relationships with Georgians.Playing Valdosta State at home and away is a great start.South Georgia is high school football country. Call our AD. Make it happen. Go Panthers and Blazers !!!

English

October 28th, 2010
2:42 pm

@ VSU Alumnus, there’s no reason to play VSU if we’re going to play GSoU. There’s 4 football programs that matter in Georgia. They are (w/out surprise) UGA, GT, GSU & GSoU.

RoguePanther

October 28th, 2010
3:01 pm

Remember the goal set by the GSU for starting the football program, that is to be known in the nation.
We are on the way to be listed in the top 25, even top 10 as the plan goes (within 15 year).

Then you get more brains and more fundings to GSU, GSU football locomotives are rolling out and getting the momemtum (5-3).

GSU football records will be the barometer, bad recod will derail the plan and set us back.
When the Panthers get the good winning season, the locomotives will keep the speed, and keep the plan on the track.
Let’s not make GSU like other GA instituations with the program going nowhere with it.
(Sorry, they may be happy where they are and fine with that, too.)

So, it’s important to win against anybody everybody, as somebody said, “WINNING IS EVERYTHING, and ONLY THE THING!”.

So, don’t matter which conference for starting if you can beat them all, we ‘ve got the bigger agenda, y’all.

The program must move to 1-A level and get the national title to realize the achievement.

It’s the dream, but great one at that.

Let’s beat them all, boys.

Itsmeagain

October 28th, 2010
3:17 pm

Regarding USA’s less aggressive plan; I’m completely comfortable with our current plan (with the understanding that the final goal is FBS). I would prefer be in our boots, going into an FCS conference with some really decent teams, some of which could be planning bigger things (am I the only one who sees Old Dominions potential?) USA is hoping that by the time they join the FBS they will be ready. They haven’t played hardly any tough games yet though so they really have no idea. When we join, we will hopefully have proven in the CAA that were more than competitive and can take this program to respectable positions in the FBS

VSU Alumnus

October 28th, 2010
3:39 pm

@English. Let’s keep this friendly. I’m rooting for Georgia State. VSU does not matter? It does if you like NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS. We have two this decade while UGA, GT, GSU,and GSU have NONE combined. What matters is what goes on between the white lines and in Titletown USA it is winning. Go Panthers and Blazers !!!!