Who can win it? North Gwinnett, Colquitt, Norcross look title-worthy

We’re about two months in, and I can see several potential state champions. Hope you’ll answer today’s poll: Which teams do you believe can win the state title this season? You can vote for as many teams as you like.

Here are those that, giving some benefit of the doubt, I think can win –

What teams can win the state title this year?

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North Gwinnett – Dominant wins over Camden County and Norcross make North the team to beat. The 50-47 shootout with Mill Creek also shows that North can be had. Mill Creek was there despite three turnovers and failing to cover an onside kick. One question mark for North Gwinnett is its running game. C.J. Leggett is very good, but North has been held to 10 yards rushing twice (Grayson, Norcross). It’s not so much a weakest as it is style. North is a passing team. Hayden Sphire has 22 TD passes. He also has eight interceptions. A good passing game is not as consistent or reliable as a good run game. That’s one reason why no predominantly passing team has won a state title in Georgia’s highest classification in over 40 years. Can North beat those odds? Yes.

Norcross – The 28-0 victory over Collins Hill – a team that threw for more than 400 yards the week before in beating Peachtree Ridge – was a statement for the defending champs. Also note the progress of QB A.J. Bush. The transfer from Milton was not ready for the moment of B.T. Washington in the opener. He was 10-for-24 with an interception and was no threat to run. Against Collins Hill, he was 9-for-14 for 205 yards, and he rushed for 56 yards. If Bush becomes a consistently good quarterback, Norcorss is going to be hard to stop. One final note: The No. 2 seed from Region 7 will be favored to reach the semifinals. It’s a sweet draw. Check it out.

Colquitt County – The Packers have all the tools – good coaching, a history of winning in the playoffs, good balance of run/pass, good defense. Their schedule from start to finish prepares them well for the post-season, and this year, they’re going to get more home playoff games and a nice draw – if they win the region for a change. Junior RB Sihiem King (671 yards rushing, 258 yards receiving) is making a name for himself. The only fly in the soup is the season-ending injury to all-state DE Jamiyus Pittman. That hurts.

Lovejoy – Lovejoy is well-rounded with an athletic, aggressive defense and the potential to be very good both running and passing. WR Preston Williams is very hard to defend. But Lovejoy needs to be steadier at quarterback and healthier in general. Two preseason all-state players, DeMarquis Gates and Jeremiah Kirkland, have missed significant time.  Lovejoy probably will be seeded to face Region 7’s champion (likely North Gwinnett) in the quarterfinals. Could toss would decide home field.

McEachern – Another team that doesn’t pass that well. There probably aren’t two better players in one backfield than RB Taj Griffin and QB Ty Clemons, though. This week’s game with North Cobb will be a test, especially for the defense. McEachern has allowed four touchdowns in a game three times this season. This is also a program that hasn’t advanced past the second round since 1999. What is this year’s projected second-round opponent? Camden County.

Archer – I have a hard time believing that a program that has never won a playoff game can win Georgia’s highest classification. Although isn’t that what Peachtree Ridge did in 2006? And P.R. was a No. 4 seed. I do think Archer is underrated, not in the polls but in the minds of the public. Region 8 is suddenly underrated. Just because Grayson and Brookwood and Parkview have taken steps back doesn’t mean that winning this region isn’t still an accomplishment, especially if the Tigers beat Grayson and run the table 10-0.

Camden County – Talented team that should continue to improve as it adjusts to coaching staff changes. But at some point, the Wildcats will need to pass. Camden is 20-for-45 passing this season. Most of those completions have gone to running backs. Camden needs to win the region or face a potential trip to the Region 4 winner (McEachern, North Cobb) in the second round.

FYI, this is what the playoff draw is projected to look like –

(R2 #4) Luella at (R4 #1) McEachern

(R3 #3) East Coweta at (R1 #2) Camden County

(R7 #4) Peachtree Ridge at (R5 #1) Etowah

(R6 #3) South Forsyth at (R8 #2) Dacula

(R4 #4) Marietta at (R2 #1) Lovejoy

(R1 #3) Lowndes at (R3 #2) Newnan

(R5 #4) Walton at (R7 #1) North Gwinnett

(R8 #3) Grayson at (R6 #2) West Forsyth

(R1 #4) Valdosta at (R3 #1) Hughes

(R4 #3) Hillgrove at (R2 #2) Newton

(R8 #4) Brookwood at (R6 #1) Alpharetta

(R5 #3) Lassiter at (R7 #2) Norcross

(R3 #4) Douglas County at (R1 #1) Colquitt County

(R2 #3) Alcovy at (R4 #2) North Cobb

(R6 #4) Lambert at (R8 #1) Archer

(R7 #3) Collins Hill at (R5 #2) Milton

116 comments Add your comment

5-Time

October 15th, 2013
9:08 am

I’m feeling like this might be Colquitt Co. year to take the Title. If they play in the playoffs like they did against Lowndes, they will be hard for anybody to upset them. And it looks like they might win the Region Title for a change. So they won’t have to be Road Warriors this year, lol….So the opposing teams will have to travel to Moultrie, and everybody knows how hard it is to win there.

Region 1- AAAAAA!!

5-Time

October 15th, 2013
9:16 am

Sorry Lowndes!! We have no offensive power or a running game to propel us through the playoffs this year and I’m just being honest…

tiftblue

October 15th, 2013
9:19 am

Lowndes or Valdosta one… Won’t make the play-offs… You’ll see Friday… Tift is better then there giving credit for.

tiftblue

October 15th, 2013
9:21 am

lost to the #3 and #5 team in GA by a combined 16 points… and some of them were give-me’s.

Paws and Stripes

October 15th, 2013
10:28 am

WE ARE ARCHER!!!!

Sportsnut

October 15th, 2013
10:33 am

Lovejoy has played it’s last 3 games without it’s starter at Qb. Gates has not played at all and Kirkland is just getting back in playing form. Hopefully, they will be ready come the 2nd season.

MADDBALL

October 15th, 2013
10:55 am

@tiftblue let me show you what karma does….In Tifton, the Blue Devils got inside the Camden County 15 three times in the first half and came away empty……………………Tift County quarterback Ryan Wedgeworth’s pass was picked off in the end zone by Chris Williams, who ran it back 102 yards for a touchdown………… now if i remember it right when tift played colquitt…….colquitt made 3 trips to the redzone and came up with no points…………packers fum. on the 1yd line and tift ran it back 4 an td…….. total yardage tift 407 camden 204…..imo should you’ve beaten camden…yes…..my point is the same adversity the pack face when we played tift is the same adversity tift faced when yall played camden……..the only difference is pack won and yall didnt…….you have this illogical feeling that just bc you’ve lost to the #3 & #5 team by an combined 16 pts.that you’re pretty good? well maybe you are,,,but in the coming weeks everyone will know just what kind of team they really have including the packers

stooge

October 15th, 2013
10:59 am

@5-Time-We’ll hope it works out. We are a great road team with loyal fans who’ll go anywhere but it WOULD be nice to play a few at home. We’ve gone full circle from the top to the bottom and are fighting our way back up.

Itiswhatitis

October 15th, 2013
11:19 am

As you said, North can be had, they have had talented teams before and when the spotlight is turned on, have not made it happen.
Norcross, has the team to get it done, but B T exposed the corners and the middle. Now it could have been that this was an early game, but it remains to be seen, also the threat of having someone take it all of the way on offense is not there.
Colquitt is built for playoff runs, they don’t score a lot of points, but that defense keeps them hanging around. They are a team that knows how to close out games. The balance of running and passing is huge.
Archer is underrated, but unproven. They caught Region 8 at the right time.
Lovejoy, yes they are athletic and have the talent. But, the question of discipline comes into play. Also, QB play is suspect. But like Colquitt they rely on a strong defense to keep them in the game.
Camden, talented and may be the fastest team in the pool. But, no passing game and a weak kicking game spells disaster. That North game earlier in the year revealed all of that. With that being said, with the right draw they could make a run.
McEachern is a dangerous team with a good defense as well. They also have the team to get it done. Right now I can’t say right now because too many games with seeding implications remain. Every region leader needs to be very, very carefully over the next 3-4 weeks. One loss and it could be a slippery slope. The next 3-4 weeks will be some great games in AAAAAA football. Upsets around the corner for every region.

Tiftblue, I agree Tift is better, however mental mistakes are going to be their downfall. They have talent all over the field, but, they have to know how to win and close out games.

Cat Man

October 15th, 2013
11:20 am

I agree Sportsnut. Kirkland seems to be getting back to form quickly. Definitely need Gates on the field. I’m a little concerned about pass defense though especially if we get NG again in the 2nd season.

Sportsnut

October 15th, 2013
11:29 am

If this comes to fruition, the favorites, some of them are going down right off the bat. First round exit. There are teams that can be beat. Beaten by those, according to the script, should not. We will see running teams who are not able to throw and throwing teams that are not able to run struggle.

I have seen 14 of these teams play, and it is going to be a fight for everyone to walk away with that trophy this year. There is not, in my mind, a clear picture of who has the upper hand. We all know who is leading the pack now but once the playoffs start, who knows.

The above bracket is full of games that many think should go a certain. If they don’t, there will be all kinds of reason why. Except maybe, “They were better than us”. Then there will be those that say how “unlikely it was” for this to happen. “No one expected this”. Yes someone did. That team.

FarTrain

October 15th, 2013
11:37 am

That statement from TH that “no predominately passing team has won a state title in GA’s highest classification in over 40 years” somewhat shocked me. Just doesn’t sound right. Just throwing a possible fact out there without proof doesn’t necessarily make it so. Where’s the proof? Surely in over 40 yrs. there had to be just one! Wish I had the records myself so I could disprove it.

tiftblue

October 15th, 2013
11:40 am

@MADDBALL…. That’s my point… We are starting to hit our stride…

Sportsnut

October 15th, 2013
11:52 am

@ itiswhatitis == Why did you say discipline would be an issue for Lovejoy? We have no such problem. On the subject of Qb play, we are doing just fine. Our starter, “Mays” Neely, has been out a few weeks now and the backup, Rogers, has done a fine job directing the team.

@ Cat Man == Yes, it would be nice to get Gates back. He should be ready shortly. He is awaiting clearance. Getting back to full strength on offense and defense will be good. It will be happening at the right time.

Sportsnut

October 15th, 2013
12:01 pm

@ FarTrain == That is why he put it out there. I am pretty sure Todd knows this type stuff. He has access to the info. Knowledge of the teams and their players would give you some indication as to weather they were a running or passing team. Remember, predominately.

tiftblue

October 15th, 2013
12:10 pm

That was the first game we made Mental mistakes… not like it’s been happening every game…

Sportsnut

October 15th, 2013
12:21 pm

@ Cat Man == The return of Gates will help bolster the secondary. When he is on the field, the qb will have less time and the Db’s will benefit. The D will pick it up come playoff time. They know they can do something special if they play Lovejoy football.

Suwanee 0wns

October 15th, 2013
12:48 pm

No sumary of Langston Hughes? Harummph. Could be the surprise team coming from the powder-puff bracket.

And you don’t even have Mighty Rockdale in the playoffs. With only 2 region losses, I refuse to believe Alcovy will finish ahead of Mighty Rockdale. We keep hearing from our blog bloviators that Region 2 is underrated and much stronger than they appear. Mighty Rockdale just might be an unpleasant surprise for some team.

I believe the issue with running versus passing teams is primarily related to “Clock Control” in High School’s short quarters. If a passing team gets a slow start then the first half can be over against a ball control team before the passing team even scores. The is no question a team like North can score in bunches very quickly. The real question is whether that explosion ever occurs against a ball control team that gives them a limitted number of possessions. If North gets an early lead against a running team, then – game over.

NG 17

October 15th, 2013
12:52 pm

CJ Leggett did have over 100 yard game and scored the winning TD North Gwinnett VS Mill Creek.
The Mill Creek QB #12 is a beast and was the leading rusher with 222 yards in game.
He did a great job of faking the hand-off and had his best game ever.CJ was really pumping up the
the team on the sidelines to win this thing. Mill Creek will beat alot of Region Champs if they make it
to the playoffs.

Wiregrass Dawg

October 15th, 2013
12:59 pm

FarTrain, as I recall TH has developed some research on the pass/run issue pretty thoroughly at some point the last few years. Maybe it was around the time of the Brookwood/Colquitt state championship game. Maybe he could pull that back out.

Cat Man

October 15th, 2013
1:08 pm

Totally agree Sportsnut. That’s one of the things that made the D so great for the last 3 yrs was getting off the D line and in the backfield before the pass even got off. Combine that with the D backs that were in there at the time too. That will definitely help the current Dbacks bolster the secondary. It’s going to happen, just need a little patience right now. Luckily the schedule favors us for now.

Titletown USA

October 15th, 2013
1:25 pm

I think the fact that pass interference penalties are not spot fouls has something to do with limiting the potential firepower of passing teams…might be perception and the stats may prove otherwise, it just seems that would be a confounding factor.

I think Colquitt has the best chance from R1, mostly because they have the best QB play who is athletic and able to create when things breakdown. It seems this year will come down to who gets hot come playoff time in addition to breaks like coin toss, bad refs, etc.

It will definitely be interesting to see who get the 3 and 4 seed for R1, that tie breaker formula will definitely get a workout this year, which is why teams should play through the end of each game.

High 5

October 15th, 2013
1:34 pm

For the life of me, why do people still say Lovejoy has a problem with discipline? Over the past 4 years, I’ve never seen one Lovejoy team have a problem with discipline? Where on earth did this rumor come from? There is a big difference between making mistakes in games and having a total lack of discipline! PLEASE END THESE VICIOUS RUMORS NOW!

NGHS09

October 15th, 2013
1:52 pm

@Itiswhatitis….

“As you said, North can be had, they have had talented teams before and when the spotlight is turned on, have not made it happen.”

North Gwinnett HAS NEVER been this loaded at wide receiver before. Those teams of the past one strictly by agressive defense and turnovers. This is the first offense since Sphire’s arrival in 06 that can literally score on any play. They can make a 22 point comeback in 80 seconds to win. They can control the clock or gas your defense. In all reality, the way Sphire’s offense is truly mean’t to operate is that the passing game opens up the running game and not vice versa. Ask him yourself if you don’t agree. Regardless though, this year’s offense is more dangerous than even the Tamburo years. I don’t think that NG should be considered “out of a game” the rest of the season. They committed 4 turnovers which gave MC Excellent field position. Hayden Sphire has thrown 6 INT’s in the last two games, but only threw 2 in the first 4 games. It’s a troublesome stat for sure, but it’s not a consistent trait that Hayden possesses. Neither is the amount of rushing yards that the NG defense allowed. It rarely happens. BUT, if it happens in the playoffs then any good team will lose. I like NG’s chances this year more than any year prior.

NGHS09

October 15th, 2013
1:53 pm

*won…not one

MADDBALL

October 15th, 2013
1:59 pm

@tift blue….if tift continues to play like they have over the past 3 weeks,,,then yes most certainly i look for them to make the playoffs…tift have the talent,,just make too many mental mistakes. thry are indeed an intriguing team that will catch a lot of teams by surpise .good luck to yall

5XChamps

October 15th, 2013
2:00 pm

Don’t sleep on Hughes. They have talented players on both sides of the ball. They pass and run the ball will equal efficiency, but the OC prefers running with #18. Defensively, they have 4-5 D1 prospects causing havoc. Expect them to play Norcross in the quarterfinals if the bracket stays the same.

Fred

October 15th, 2013
2:21 pm

@FarTrain – If you want to put the time into it, go to http://ghsfha.org/statechamps.php?aOrgNum=1 to get the champs in the highest class and then research the teams. I can’t speak for 40 years but I think it is a safe bet that at least back to 1996 the statement is true.

the truth

October 15th, 2013
2:24 pm

In my opinion the playoff brackets need a change. There is enough reporting on high school football that teams could be selected and seeded 1-32 instead of just using the top 4 teams in a region. They are able to seed the teams in A, they can expand it to all divisions. It would eliminate teams such as Etowah at 4-6 getting in over S. Cobb at 7-3 (not a fan of either team, just an observation). It would also eliminate overloading the top teams to one side of the bracket. Currently, 4 of the top 5 teams are on one side of the bracket (N Gwinnett, McEachern, Camden, and Lovejoy), A game such as Camden/Norcross should not have happened in the quarterfinals. I understand upsets happen, but it would be best to try and get the top teams playing in the semifinals and finals, not the quarterfinals.

Finally every team should have to play at least one road game, Expenses are high for traveling teams and just because your team happens to win a region should not absolve you from having the expense of traveling. Colquitt (once again not a fan just an observation) had to pay to travel to 4 games last year, all four in or near the Atlanta area. That is $30,000 every time the team left school, and does not include the amount of travel and expense parents had to watch kids play, and well as time away from school for the students. You could comment that if teams do better in their own region, they would not have to travel. This would be true if the regions were equitable. Imaging how much money Camden was able to save by winning that awful region 3 year after year. This is even more of a strain on lower division schools.

Camden74

October 15th, 2013
2:25 pm

All of the conversations hinge on the above brackets being correct. I don’t believe the brackets will hold up. There will be several upsets in Region 1 before it’s all said and done, if you want to call them upsets. Also, keep in mind, Camden has plenty of weak areas this season, especially pass defense, tackling and the kicking game. If they don’t improve by playoff time, the road will be tough. But, if the teams playing Camden in the playoffs don’t have a strong run stopping defense, they’re in trouble! You can’t run your high flying, high scoring offense if you don’t have the ball…….For the teams that have coaches who meltdown during the playoffs, nothing will change. I watched Norcross the other night and they seem to be coming into form. NG is on the verge of buckling under the pressure. Let’s see if they can stand strong and run the table…..The closer we get to the playoffs, the more the pressure will build, on all teams! Oh, one more thing! I’m still picking Camden to win Region 1! RELEASE the CATS!!!! :-D

Todd Holcomb

October 15th, 2013
2:34 pm

”That statement from TH that “no predominately passing team has won a state title in GA’s highest classification in over 40 years” somewhat shocked me. Just doesn’t sound right. Just throwing a possible fact out there without proof doesn’t necessarily make it so. Where’s the proof? Surely in over 40 yrs. there had to be just one! Wish I had the records myself so I could disprove it.”

Well, you put me to work.

The highest class has been won by some good passing teams (including Norcross last season), but none that would be considered more of a passing team than a running team, IMO, since 1971 Valdosta.

North Gwinnett, for example, passes for 247.2 yards per game and rushes for 105.0. No team like that has won the state title in Georgia’s highest class.

I’m open-minded to disagreement, but let’s look at this …

(Note: Thanks to the GHSFHA and especially to the late Ira Kirkpatrick for making much of this info on Georgia’s state champions available.)

2012 – Norcross: Rushing (232), passing (168)
2011 – Grayson: Wing T
2010 – Brookwood: Nick Tompkins rushed for 144 in title game.
2008-09 – Camden: Wing T
2007 – Lowndes: Wing T
2006 – Peachtree Ridge/Roswell – Both could pass, especially Roswell, but Roswell RB Alex Daniel made all-state and rushed for 101 yards on 24 carries in the final. PR’s Brandon Davis was a workhorse in the playoffs – 29 carries, 109 yards in the semis. He was stopped in the final, and PR’s Zach graham was 20-30 for 202 yards. These teams could pass, but I’d say both looked to establish the run first.
2004-05 – Lowndes: Wing T
2003 – Camden: Wing T
2000-02: Parkview: Old-fashioned smash mouth w/ feature RB.
1999 – Lowndes: QB Barrett Wilkes threw for right at 2,000 yards, which was a lot then, and TE Jay Ratliff had 46 catches. But RB Darrin Richardson had 106 yards on 24 carries in the title game and got all-state recognition (as did Wilkes & Ratliff). I’d call it a balanced team.
1998 – Valdosta: Gained 210 of 249 total yards on the ground in state final.
1997 – Parkview: Smash mouth.
1996 – Brookwood – Didn’t complete a pass in the c’ship game.
1995 – Sw DeKalb – They did have Quincy Carter, but RB Arvin Richard rushed for 1,500 yards.
1994 – Colquitt County – Rushed and passed for more than 2,000 yards.
1993 – Dunwoody – Rod Perrymond 2,467 yards rushing.
1992 – Valdosta: Nick Hyder/old school.
1991 – LaGrange: Passed for 167 of 251 total yards in final, but QB Rodney Hudson had only 1,350 passing yards for the season in 15 games. Run first, IMO.
1990 – Valdosta: Rushed for 242 yards, passed for 29 in state final.
1989 – Valdosta: Carlos Parker rushed for 1,600 yards.
1988 – Warner Robins: John Perkins rushed for 1,600 yards.
1987 – Morrow: Two 1,000-yard rushers (Danny Williams, Ray Doran)
1986 – Valdosta: Jerome Calloway rushed for 1,587 yards
1985 – Clarke Central: Robbie Kamerschen passed for 1,740 yards. Richard Jewell (not the security man) 108 yards in final. I might have more info on this team somewhere. Definitely could pass, but I suspect more rushing yards than passing.
1984 – Valdosta: Ran for 175 and passed for 52 in state final.
1983 – Tift County: Michael Turner (not the ex-Falcon) rushed for 1,433 yards. QB Brian Massingill did throw 4 TD passes in final, but Tift still had close to 300 yards rushing in that epic game.
1982 – Valdosta: Good balance. RB Dana Brinson was outstanding.
1981 – Warner Robins: David Williams rushed for 1,546 yards. Team 363 rushing in state final.
1980 – Lowndes: Cedric Jones rushed for 1,912.
1979 – Clarke Central: Dwayne Harden rushed for 1,642.
1978 – Valdosta/Griffin : Ricky Williams of Griffin rushed for 1,918. Valdosta’s QB was John Lastinger. He wasn’t a passer then, either.
1977 – Clarke Central: QB Jim Bob Harris was an athlete, converted to DB at Bama. 139 yards rushing and 66 passing in final.
1976 – Warner Robins: James Brooks 1,810 yards.
1975 – Central Macon: QB Mike Jolly was a duel threat QB. Ran for 93, passed for 128 in final.
1973-74 – Thomasville: Offense built around Williams Andrews.
1972 – Lakeside: Jack Bowen ran for 188 yards and three touchdowns
1971 – Stan Rome set national record with 1,500 yards receiving.

grayram

October 15th, 2013
3:10 pm

Teams like Lowndes, Grayson, Brookwood having down years going to the playoffs as 3 and 4 seeds will make some other regions 1 and 2 seeds a lilttle uneasy.

jvillebil

October 15th, 2013
3:50 pm

Great response Todd. I go to the site quite often to look up records. I really appreciate the hard work they have done.

Itiswhatitis

October 15th, 2013
4:14 pm

NGHS09,
I am surprised that you did not look back to the 09 season when NGO was loaded offensively in the backfield and at their receiving corps. They also had a good O Line. As far as scoring 22 points in a short period, the opposing team defense plays a huge part in that. NG did a good job pulling out that win. but a hook and ladder and a failure to cover a kickoff played a huge role in that comeback. There are a lot of teams in AAAAAA who can score at anytime, NG does not have the market on that. MC found something that gave them the ability to score 47 points.

NGHS 09

October 15th, 2013
4:56 pm

@ Camden74… I wouldn’t use the words “buckling under pressure”, but more along the lines of “wake up call”. NG has played two straight games in which they didn’t “wake up” until the second half. It’s alarming but I don’t think it’s much of a concern long term. Much like the #1 ranking isn’t a concern to the players or coaches. I do agree with you though that the spotlight causes all kinds of unwanted distractions and it’s a toss up as to whether a team full of teenage boys can handle the pressure.

BTW, I know you’re being modest able Camden, but let the truth be told about how good they’ll be come November. Those two RB’s are game changers.

WarriorFan

October 15th, 2013
4:56 pm

@5xchamps:

Hughes has all the talent in the world, but as we saw last season when it came to crunch time, the OC didnt trust his pass game and he couldnt run it. They can pass all they want in the weak region and make it look easy. They could be dangerous in they can be two demensional in the playoffs when it counts

RobFromNorcross

October 15th, 2013
4:59 pm

Sportsnut, Hard to believe you have still been able to win with key injuries in your rugged Region 2. To be safe, Lovejoy should probably rest all their starters the rest of the season so they will all be healthy come playoff time. You never know what could happen against bruisers like Luella, Newton and Alcovy.

RobFromNorcross

October 15th, 2013
5:03 pm

What is most impressive about the North Gwinnett team is how they don’t appear to get down when they are behind. They were behind Norcross 14-0 this year and had nothing going and they made the adjustments. They were behind Mill Creek and they refused to give up. Of course, it was took some breaks to pull of that last one in the limited time available, but they kept the pedal to the metal and allowed those breaks to happen and then made the most of them.

I hope we (Norcross) get the chance to play them again. Our team is much improved since Week 3 on both sides of the line of scrimmage.

NGHS 09

October 15th, 2013
5:07 pm

@Itiswhatitis…I’m not going to argue a mute point about the 09 team, but your last post proved my point exactly. NG threw 3 INT’s inside their own 30 yd line. All three of those passes were AWFUL and the last two weren’t a result of a crazy pass rush. MC had 4 drives start inside our 30 yard line. No team in the state could keep them out of the endzone 100% of the time in that situation. MC had one less turnover and they even won the point differential off turnovers. NG shot themselves in the foot four times in the first 36 minutes of the game. MC choked big time in the final quarter, ironically when it counted the most. The game was theirs to lose and NG took advantage of their mistakes late just like they took advantage of NG’s mistakes earlier on in the game. Our front seven played sloppy all night though. I won’t deny that whatsoever, but I never said NG was the only one who can score a lot of points in a short amount of time. To many generalizations coming out of your post in reference to what I posted earlier. If our defense plays like that against ANY team in the playoffs then we will most likely lose. However, I just don’t see it happening this year like I have in previous years..even when I didn’t want to admit it. The offense finally has the capacity to compliment, or bail out, the defense if needed.

NGHS 09

October 15th, 2013
5:09 pm

@Itiswhatitis…I totally agree with you about Norcross starting to hit their stride. I called it after their loss to NG. They have a lot of youth and trust me their two loses early this year have lit a fire inside that field house.

NGHS 09

October 15th, 2013
5:10 pm

@Camden74….***mean’t to say about…not able

NGHS 09

October 15th, 2013
5:12 pm

@ RobFromNorcross…I’m not boasting by any means, but I’ve seen the top 5 in Region 7 play, in person, and I think the top 3 and whoever lands the 4th spot will make a lot of noise in the playoffs. I’ve never seen the region so talented or competitive.

Melissa

October 15th, 2013
5:20 pm

If Mill Creek wins out and beats Collins Hill in the last game of the season, and if Collins Hill and Ptree Ridge lose to North Gwinnett, there will be a 3 way tie for spots 3 and 4 in region 7. To complicate matters, MC beats CH, CH beats PTR, and PTR beats MC. So how are the 3 and 4 spots determined in this case?

Melissa

October 15th, 2013
5:24 pm

Regarding my earlier post, all 3 schools, MC, CH and PTR, will have the same overall record having won their non-region games…

RobFromNorcross

October 15th, 2013
5:28 pm

PTR still has a game at Norcross as well on Oct 25.

NGHS 09

October 15th, 2013
5:37 pm

@Melissa…Good question. Don’t quote me, but I believe that in the case of a tie for a region spot the teams do 3 things. 1) Flip a coin, 2) play a shortened (2 quarter) mini-playoff game, or 3) go off points allowed in region play. Not sure on either 3 though!

RobFromNorcross

October 15th, 2013
5:41 pm

Melissa,

There is also the possibility of a three way tie for 2,3 and 4 seed in Region 7 with Norcross, PTR and Collins Hill all 6-2 in the region.

This is what it would take for this to happen:
North defeats Collins Hill and PTR giving each their second region loss.
PTR defeats Norcross Oct 25 giving Norcross its second region loss.
Collins Hill beats Mill Creek last week of season.

If Norcross beats PTR on Oct (as I expect) then Norcross is the #2 seed, and the scenario you mention is possible with a 3-way tie for the 3 and 4 seeds if Mill Creek beats CH last week of season.

I know that the tie breaker doesn’t involve non-region games. Not sure how they decide seeds in these cases for Region 7.

Melissa

October 15th, 2013
5:42 pm

@robfromnorcross…I am assuming that PTR will lose to Norcross. Then, of course there is Duluth who can spoil for CH and MC. Lots of football to be played still. My son plays on the O-Line for MC and I am just praying we get through to the playoffs. We are too good of a team to be sitting out. But, I am sure PTR and CH feel the same way. @NGHS 09, I have read those tie breakers as well, but then it also says each region decides its own tie breaker and I can’t find region 7’s documented anywhere. Also, in this scenario we would have 2 spots open and it sure seems like someone would win the 3 seed outright and the other 2 would have the tie breaker.

NGHS 09

October 15th, 2013
5:43 pm

I’m still skeptical about the NG vs Collins Hill game next Friday. That’s been the only game on the schedule that i’ve had circled.

Sportsnut

October 15th, 2013
5:51 pm

@ High 5 == It comes from the masses that refuse to accept what the Cats have brought to the table. It came with the talk of dirty play. That came from those who thought they should not lose to Lovejoy.

@ RobFromNorcross == Yeah, it has been a miracle. We should have beat them with our freshmen alone. I don’t know what we are going to do come playoff time. All these injuries and the kids not playing disciplined ball, we have no chance. We can’t rest anyone, they are all so inexperienced, they need the reps.

I know you know how it feels. I know it is hard to get a win at Mountain View and Habersham Central. With all the obstacles they present and having to play against them, the refs and the boosters, it is hard to leave happy. We will do the best we can and hopefully win one.