No respect: Would Etowah, Alpharetta, Hughes make playoffs from Region 1 or 7?

Etowah and Region 5-AAAAAA got a vote of no confidence (or slap in the face, as one reader called it) when the Eagles were not ranked in the Top 10 this week after beating Milton, which had been ranked No. 9.

What Class AAAAAA teams that are predicted to win their regions would not even make the playoffs if they were in Region 1 or Region 7? (You can vote for more than one.)

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It’s not just the AJC. The Georgia Sports Writers Association poll, released today, also passed on ranking Etowah (6-0). The GSWA doesn’t even rank Archer (6-0), the leader of Region 8.

Those decisions suggest that Georgia’s sportswriters (including myself) think some regions are much stronger than others.

So we’ve got a poll for you today.
What region’s champion would not make the playoffs in other regions?

Here’s the competition:

In Region 1, the projected top four are Colquitt County, Camden County, Valdosta and Tift County. Coffee and Lowndes also are contenders.

In Region 7, the projected top four are North Gwinnett, Norcross, Collins Hill and Peachtree Ridge. Mill Creek, a quarterfinal team in 2013, remains a contender.

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Max Sizemore

October 8th, 2013
9:21 am

None of those teams would reach the playoffs in either of those regions.

Sportsnut

October 8th, 2013
9:23 am

I think they all would have a chance in either region 1 or 7. Simply by asking the question you are giving to much respect to region 1 and 7. We will all see come November. What is the fascination with these regions? There are good teams in them but there are good teams everywhere.

Colquitt Fan

October 8th, 2013
9:27 am

I think Lovejoy and McEachern would make it, I don’t know enough about the other teams to say. I do know Valdosta and Tifton are pretty good teams

VALDAWGSTA

October 8th, 2013
10:12 am

I really really hope region 1-6A proves this “toughest region” label in the playoffs. Doesn’t look good when two teams from the region lose in the first round every year.

BIG CHIEF WHOOPUM

October 8th, 2013
10:29 am

@Max Sizemore- Man, that must be some “GOOD” stuff you’re on. McEachern would make the play in either of divisions.

GO INDIANS!!! GO BIG BLUE!!!

BIG CHIEF WHOOPUM

October 8th, 2013
10:32 am

“those divisions” See, you’ve got me so RILED UP that I can’t type

Sportsnut

October 8th, 2013
11:18 am

Todd == Do you really think those regions are that good, top to bottom?. Enough so that a Mceachern or Lovejoy would not even make the playoffs? I know we are not what people have been accustomed to the last couple of years but that is total disrespect to put Lovejoy’s name in the group.

The fact is we are still winning. We are where we were at this point last season. The only thing to change is the personnel. We are still Lovejoy. We are doing it with mainly underclassmen. Is that it? Did we lose to much to have kept the faith of you and your colleagues?

I know we are ranked where we are but we know that means nothing. It just ruffles my feathers to see the lack of faith in my team. Don’t worry though, the 2nd season is coming and then we will see if the prognosticators were correct in their choices. We know how it ended the last 2 years for Lovejoy.

We may not be who we were but we are who we are, Lovejoy Wildcats

BigDave

October 8th, 2013
11:33 am

Itiswhatitis

October 8th, 2013
11:35 am

Sports nut, relax guy, if Lovejoy is who they are, then it will play out on the field. As far as the question that was asked. I will give Lovejoy and Macheachern a yes, but the other teams, I have my doubts. Lovejoy is 0-1 in region 1 already with a loss to Colquitt, so that puts you behind Camden, Tift and Lowdnes. ties you with Valdosta and Brunswick. So based on that, Lovejoy would be tied for 5th in region 1. On the outside looking in.

Sportsnut

October 8th, 2013
11:49 am

@itiswhatitis == I am relaxed. Just asking. Numerically, you are correct. Logically, your premise is flawed. We lost to Colquitt by 4 points. We had the ball on the 3 with 1:00 to play. We should have won but we didn’t. I am not saying this because we lost. Ask any Colquitt fan.

Todd Holcomb

October 8th, 2013
12:02 pm

Lovejoy would make the playoffs in any region, IMO.

But this poll includes all six of the leaders of the other regions. I would’ve included the Green Bay Packers in the poll if they were leading their region. No disrespect intended.

Sportsnut

October 8th, 2013
12:27 pm

@ Todd == I see. My bad for not paying enough attention to the material. In all honesty though, I think there are going to be some big, very big surprises in the first round. I can only hope we are not on the bad end of one of them. AAAAAA is up for grabs. North is playing the role of King of the Hill and doing it well but we beat them last year and I see no reason they can’t be beat again.

There are some dangerous teams in that group of the six. Alpharetta should have beat us with their back-up Qb throwing for 426 yards. We all know what Mceachern brings to the table. Archer is showing it’s mettle in Gwinnett as a team to reckon with. We know Hughes has talent and Etowah may have taken the next step with their handling of Milton.

Now that I think about it, it comes to me as this question. Could the teams in region 1 and 7 compete with these teams this year for a playoff spot?. Remember now, they play a different style of ball in region 1.

stooge

October 8th, 2013
1:57 pm

@Sportsnut-How many starters did you guys lose to graduation last season?

Itiswhatitis

October 8th, 2013
2:44 pm

Sportsnut, 1 point or 2 a loss is a loss. If a frog had wings he would not bump his butt every time he hopped.

Camden74

October 8th, 2013
2:49 pm

The Class 6A State Title is totally up for grabs this year. There are at least a half dozen or more teams with a legitimate chance to win it all……As for Region 1 6A, I believe, from top to bottom, week in and week out, is the toughest Region in the state! All together now! RELEASE the CATS!!!! :-D

R31768 Pack

October 8th, 2013
3:15 pm

@ Sportsnut: Lovejoy would definitely compete for the Region title in R1. They may have more injuries than normal at the end of Region play but they would contend as well as McEachern but McEachern would need to beef up their Defense to play in R1. Teams like Camden and the “Old Lowndes” would not give their offense as many chances to score as they are used too.

R31768 Pack

October 8th, 2013
3:24 pm

I hope I am wrong but I think R1 is down across the board this year. People are referring to the Packers as the front runner of R1 right now and if that is true, R1 may be in trouble come playoff time. I love my packers but let’s face it, they have had bright spots this year but I would not define them as championship caliber by any means. Even in the Lowndes game there were many points squandered by poor execution. We have had a lot of trouble in the red zone.

With that said, we find a way to win games and I feel we will get better.

5-Time

October 8th, 2013
3:28 pm

Can’t speak for Region 7, but they would not make the playoffs in the Tough Region 1 and I’m just being honest!!

Colquitt Supporter

October 8th, 2013
5:08 pm

I’ll go with all of them.

Colquitt Supporter

October 8th, 2013
5:09 pm

That is making the playoffs.

grayram

October 8th, 2013
5:29 pm

Interesting question. If Etowah, Alpharetta or L.Hughes Played N.Gwinn, PRidge, Norcross, Collins Hill, and Mill Creek in consecutive weeks would any of them win more than 2? My guess is no. I think they would be in a battle for the 4th seed.
Region 1 is a little down this year with Lowndes having a out of charcter season, So they may have a better shot there.

Alphadawg

October 8th, 2013
6:17 pm

The thought of such superiority in Region 1 is just outdated. It has been years since that region was an overall power and it is time to recognize a fundamental shift that has S Georgia behind the 8 ball. First, Regions 7 and 8 have massive numbers like no other schools in the state with the possible exception of Camden, but it is shrinking as well. The rest of the schools listed have talent and decent coaching and are competitive anywhere. The S GA schools at one time had stronger support systems than some of the newer metro Atlanta schools, but those days are mostly gone as you can see from the college offers that are now coming to players at Alpharetta, Etowah, Milton, Lassiter, Walton, Lovejoy, McEachern, Hillgrove, W Forsyth, etc. All of those schools have produced more college players than most of the schools in region 1. Regions 1 -4 don’t have to face regions 7 & 8 until the third round of the playoffs and still only Colquitt is able to advance that far. Lovejoy and Newton have recently headed south for a big check, but lets see some more North/South out-of-region play in 2014/2015 and then we can judge who is really better. What would it take to actually see a Region 1 team come up to Atlanta for a game? I cant remember the last time it was done other than a 3rd round playoff game. Lets see Valdosta come up to play Alpharetta or Camden come play Archer and do a home-and-home then we will know. Clearly good football in region 1, but dominant? No.

R31768 Pack

October 8th, 2013
7:23 pm

I predict that Colquitt would play any of the teams from North Ga. I think the problem is the North teams don’t want to play us due to having to play 7 or 8 region games. Keep in mind Colquitt has played NG and Grayson the past two years at the dome.

I do agree that Gwinett has the advantage in numbers but don’t agree that R1 is behind the 8 ball. It is still a very strong region and as strong as any in the state even though my earlier post predicted that R1 is down this year. We sent a team to the quarters and semis last year with Camden and Colquitt.

R31768 Pack

October 8th, 2013
7:40 pm

Another point aalphadawg. Colquitt has represented well in the playoffs the last 4 years but has not won the region in the last 4 years. In fact, they have not finished any better than 3rd in the region. That is the indication of a strong region.

Sportsnut

October 8th, 2013
7:40 pm

@ Stooge == We lost 16 starters. A total of 33.

@ itiswhatitis == I know. I was putting the 0-1 record into context to fit the conversation.

@ R31768 Pack == I know the Cats would compete. To think otherwise would be foolish.

Sportsnut

October 8th, 2013
7:52 pm

@ 5-Time == Do not kid yourself. I think all these teams would make the playoff’s if they were in the same region as the present region 1 teams. Region 1 is not that tough outside the region. There is no need to remind you of the past few years and the playoff results.

tiger fan

October 8th, 2013
8:30 pm

What no comments about Archer? Bring on the playoffs! You know what they say about an opinion. The greatest thing about a playoff system is there is no need for a stupid question when its over!!!! Yes Archer is good ,well coached and most starters are returning. We will all have our questions answered soon enough. I can’t wait!!!

RobFromNorcross

October 8th, 2013
9:00 pm

Sportsnut,

How is your prediction that Shiloh and Berkmar would both make it to the playoffs from Region 8 based on their cupcake pre-region schedule working out?

57Cat

October 8th, 2013
9:07 pm

Todd asked for the opinions of us bloggers about whether those teams would make the playoffs if they played in Region 1. The responders answered with just that – opinions. Do those who disagree think they are going to change anyone’s mind by arguing? Give your opinion and move on. It matters not who beat whom last year; the question pertains to 2013. I honestly don’t know enough about any one of those teams to offer an opinion about whether any or all are better than or as good as Valdosta. Right now I’m just worried about whether Valdosta is better than Coffee, Tift, Lowndes and Brunswick this year.

Colquitt Fan

October 8th, 2013
9:22 pm

I would worry too much about the teams up north. They recruit too good up there to be down often

Camden74

October 8th, 2013
9:50 pm

AlphaDawg…….Camden comes North to play every opportunity they get, have you just started to follow GHSF? Another point, Metro Atlanta Schools/players are getting more scholarships than South Georgia because of a larger population and more publicity, not because the players are that much better. Camden is in transition, if your school is planning to beat Camden, they’d better do it this season! RELEASE the CATS!!!! :-D

CoffeeC100

October 9th, 2013
3:55 am

Region 1 is very strange this year. With the exception of the Lowndes/Colquitt game. Any team could have won any game this year.

I personally think region 1 is a monster this year and it is because of coaching. Just look at the coaches in region 1. All teams, with the exception of Brunswick, have coaches that have multiple state championships. Some in multiple states and regions.

South Georgia plays TEAM football! The North Georgia teams consist of individuals with superior talent. In the end the South Georgia teams are going to win over the North Georgia pick-up groups.

Just my opinion.

By the way. I don’t feel any team in region 1 has a lock on a playoff spot other than Camden and Colquitt. And Lovejoy and McEachern would be right in the middle of things in region 1.

I love the Dangerfield avatar. Funny! Todd is getting more and more with the wit.

Let’s play some football!

Sportsnut

October 9th, 2013
8:16 am

@ RobFromNorcross == I never said they would win it. I posed a question. Would anyone be surprised if these teams were the reps from region 8. Remember ?

5-Time

October 9th, 2013
9:56 am

Would Etowah, Alpharetta, Hughes make playoffs from Region 1 or 7? Like I said, Can’t speak for Region 7, but they would not make the playoffs in the Tough Region 1 and I’m just being honest!! That’s my opinion and I’m sticking with it….They would not beat out Colquitt, Camden, Valdosta or even Lowndes for a playoff spot!! And I’m not kidding my self, I’m just being honest…

Sportsnut

October 9th, 2013
10:02 am

Since 2009, It has been the Camden-Colquitt show in region 1. Together, they account for more playoff wins than the rest of the region combined. There have been 6 first round exits. 5 second round exits and 4 quarterfinal exits. All accounted for by the rest of the region, with the exception of Camden,who has two of those quarterfinal exits. Camden also has one of the 5 second round exits.

Lowndes and Valdosta account for the other two quarterfinal exits in 2010. Colquitt has by far been the best thing out of the region in the last 4 years. So we see two good teams and the whole region is being labeled as the best.

Why?

5-Time

October 9th, 2013
10:13 am

Let me break it down for you. In my eyes, this is what it means by having a Tough Region.

On any given night, any team can be beat. Look at the past four years and you will notice that Colquitt has gone further in the playoffs than the rest of the region but they didn’t win the Region Title. Look at last year or the year before and you will notice that everybody beat up on everybody. In other words, Valdosta beat Colquitt. Lowndes beat Valdosta. Camden defeats Lowndes, but Colquitt defeats Camden or how about Tifton beating #10 Coffee!!

If that doesn’t look like a Tough Region to you then something is seriously wrong with you!! Can Region 2-AAAAAA produce similar results?? In my eyes, that’s what makes our Region so Tough…

Sportsnut

October 9th, 2013
10:25 am

In 2009, when Camden won it all, Colquitt made the semi’s,
Coffee didn’t make it,
Tift did not make it,
Lowndes and Brunswick made 2nd round exits and Valdosta exited the first round.

2010 was a good year for them. Colquitt played fir the title and lost. Camden and Brunswick made 2nd round exits. Coffee left in the first round and Valdosta made the quarterfinal.

2011 saw Colquitt make the semi’s and Camden make the quarterfinal. Brunswick and Tift are again left out. Lowndes made a 2nd round exit and Valdosta made a 1st round exit.

In 2012, Colquitt again led the way, reaching the semi’s. Camden reached the quarters. Lowndes and Valdosta both made 1st round exits.

Seems like they are tough to each other but the rest of the state does not seem to be impressed come playoff time. Credit is given to the teams and what they have accomplished but to say that the region is the toughest is a stretch.

R31768 Pack

October 9th, 2013
10:27 am

I agree 5-Time as I stated earlier. Most regions have a clear leader who runs the table without any real competition and many times in R7 and R8, that leader wins state because they are a very good football program and deserved it but did not have any real competition leading up to it. ie: Grayson 2011, Norcross 2012 R1 is a crapshoot every week. Are we better than than the rest of the region leaders? NO, but overall which is the point that Todd Holcomb and many others are stating is from top to bottom it is tough every week. It appears now that we may have to start worrying about Tift. Just my opinion. I’m sure people have others

5-Time

October 9th, 2013
10:38 am

LOL….Region 1-AAAAAA is not only the Toughest Region in the State of Georgia, but it’s the Toughest Region in the USA!! Even the Metro Atlanta area thinks so!! Want proof?? Just ask, and I will gladly post a link for your pleasure!!

R31768 Pack

October 9th, 2013
10:39 am

@sportsnut, I would like to see a layout of all region’s success over the last 4 years to see how it all matches up. I would do it but I am too busy.

@Todd, This would be a good article. Look at Sportsnut’s Oct. 9 10:25 am post. You may have already done an article like this but it would be nice to see how the regions have stacked up over the last 4 years with the playoffs. Although, since Camden just came over to R1 last year, the results would be skewed and would lead to a deeper debate. Don’t you just love GA HS Football?

Sportsnut

October 9th, 2013
10:52 am

@ R31768Pack == Without Camden’s resume, region 1 looks like any other over the last 4 years. Take away Camden and you have Colquitt going to the semi’s 4 straight years with a trip to the ship’ in 10′. You are left with 6 first round exits, 4 second round exits and 2 quarterfinal exits by Valdosta and Lowndes in 10′.

That’s it.

Sportsnut

October 9th, 2013
11:27 am

It would take much work. You also have to take into account that NSWR and WR were part of region 1 at times. In 08′ and 09′, I know they were and Houston County was a member from at least 05′-09. Brunswick just came with Camden so good luck trying to figure it all out.

Sportsnut

October 9th, 2013
11:42 am

R31768Pack == Those same teams you refer to as “any real competition” are the ones knocking region 1 out of the playoffs. Those are the teams the other region leaders beat to get there.

Colquitt Supporter

October 9th, 2013
3:31 pm

Region 1AAAAAA may be the toughest in the state. I guess we will find out for sure after the season is over. But being in the toughest region does not mean a team will be successful in the play-offs just as being in a weak region does not mean an early departure from the play-offs. Guess we will find out in November/December.

7-AAAAAA Dad

October 9th, 2013
4:41 pm

Sportsnut- According to your logic, as noted in several posts, Region 1-AAAAAA is not all that good because “they haven’t won title lately.” Tell me sir, as I am new on these AJC Blogs, exactly how many titles has Lovejoy won during that time? How ’bout EVER? I know being a rookie on here naturally means I’m not as smart as you, but I have participated a long time in other venues!

Just asking. Can you give me a straight answer ?

grayram

October 9th, 2013
5:07 pm

Coffe1000
We hear that every year, South GA plays like a team, Na GA is individuals blah blah.. Look at the results you will see that hasn’t worked out so well.
i’m bored with looking up and printing the results for you.

Rpack: What you say was no competition leading up to title included several teams that would have had no trouble with Cofee or Tiftonville. Actually the only R1 team we have ever lost to is Colquitt. Neither Lowndes or Valdosta came close.

grayram

October 9th, 2013
5:11 pm

Todd:
Maybe a good way to answer this would be to go back a few years and list which regions #1 seed has lost to the opposing #4 seed in round 1.
Im pretty sure Valdosta lost in rd 1 two years in a row, and were the 1 seed at least one of those years. I believe Grayson was a 4 seed the year they beat one of the Forsyth schools as a 1 seed. Sure there have been others.

ppaddy123

October 9th, 2013
5:18 pm

I’m surprised BKSmith hasn’t had an opinion on this subject…….oh well. Traditionally, Region 1AAAAAA has always been a powerhouse, and they have the state titles to support that claim. However, recent history shows there has been a shift towards the northern part of the state. This year region 1AAAAAA will send 4 quality teams into the playoffs. The #3 & #4 teams will not be a cakewalk for anyone, but at this point region seeding will be up in the air all the way until the end!

Catdoc

October 9th, 2013
6:40 pm

Team for team region1 is heads above all. Every week is a battle. I say region1 is the strongest in the country. By far.

R31768 Pack

October 9th, 2013
6:43 pm

I don’t know the answer to this without looking it up but what other regions had two teams in the quarters last year? There would have been six other teams out of seven regions. I am pretty sure that R7 had two or three so what other teams had two; therefore I stand by my statement that most of the other regions have no strong contenders from top to bottom like R1.