Class A Blog: Top programs starting fast, Douglas representing for Class A

By S. Thomas Coleman
For the AJC

After a handful of games on Friday, we learned a couple of things: ELCA is still pretty good, and several teams in Class A are chomping at the bit to knock them and Emanuel County Institute off of their thrones.

Washington County 6, No. 1 ELCA 0 (Postponed before half time). The Chargers were giving the Golden Hawks, ranked No. 5 in Class AAA, all they wanted for most of the first half before the game was called. ELCA had a scoring chance after a long drive but missed a short field goal.

No. 10 Athens Academy 41, Glascock County 8. The Spartans led 34-0 at the half and never looked back. Athens Academy has outscored Glascock 81-14 in the past two season openers.

No. 2 Brooks County (AA) 26, Clinch County 14. It looks like Clinch might be Clinch again this season as this one was much more respectable than last season, when Brooks throttled the Panthers 43-3. Brooks is the No. 2 ranked team in Class AA.

Landmark Christian 30, Calvary Day 22. So far so good for Landmark without Jeremiah Kirkland. The All-State senior running back transferred to Lovejoy, but Darius Smith appears ready to pick up the slack. He scored two touchdowns, including the game clincher from 39 yards out with 5 minutes left, to lead the War Eagles to their third win over Calvary Day in four tries.

Holy Innocents 28, Lakeside-DeKalb 14. Jack Pfohl had touchdown runs of 90 and 3 yards in the win for the Bears, giving them 14 Power Ranking points with the victory over a Class AAAAA opponent.

Walker 21, Temple 0. It looks like Walker will be more pass oriented this season with 2,000-yard rusher Evan Kasian gone. Wolverine quarterback Cameron Bloebaum threw three touchdown passes in the win over Class AA Temple.

No. 3 Prince Avenue Christian 54, St. Francis 7. The debut of new Wolverine head coach Jeff Herron, formerly of Camden County, went as planned. PAC rode the efforts of two fresh faces to the win – senior Max Moorman and transfer student Zantravious Shields. Moorman, who scored a touchdown, broke his ankle in Game 2 and missed the rest of the season last year. Shields transferred from North Oconee, and rushed for 69 yards and two touchdowns.

No. 5 Lincoln County 41, McCormick (S.C.) 0. The Red Devils recorded their second shutout in as many season openers over McCormick, as All-State running back Mike McIntire ran for 148 yards and three touchdowns, while quarterback LaKeith Lockhart tossed a pair of scoring strikes to Jamar Norman.

Aquinas 52, East Laurens 14. Liam Welch threw three touchdown passes to lead the Irish to their first win in the post Brendan Douglas/Matt LaZotte era. LaZotte led the school to its most successful two-year run in history, and Douglas is now pushing for playing time in the UGA backfield (more on that in a second).

Darlington 50, Murphy (N.C.) 6. The Tigers led 35-0 at the half and never looked back, beating a coach who has compiled over 300 wins in North Carolina.

Douglas representing for Class A

In an interesting turn of events that is sure to make Class A athletes, coaches and parents smile, it appears Brendan Douglas, formerly a Class A All-State RB/LB at Aquinas, is neck-and-neck with J.J. Green in the race for the third-string running back spot at UGA – behind perhaps the nation’s best college backfield tandem of Todd Gurley and Keith Marshall.  Green is a former Class AAAAA All-State performer as a RB/DB and return specialist.

So much for the stigma that Class A players are “too something” – too small, too slow, too short, too whatever …  And it will be interesting to see how Jeremiah Kirkland does at Lovejoy.  Early indications are that he will be just fine.

Now it’s your turn. Until Tuesday ….

54 comments Add your comment

moto

August 24th, 2013
4:26 pm

Thanks, STC. Glad to have your column back. And thanks for the follow-up on Douglas and Kirkland. Question: Is ELCA credited with a loss, even though the game was called before reaching even halftime? Surely not.

STC Fan

August 24th, 2013
4:57 pm

From above…Shields transferred from North Oconee, and rushed for 69 yards and two touchdowns.

Did Shields have to sit out one year or did his family move districts? How did that work?

interested party

August 24th, 2013
5:19 pm

How about that!

1.62 A transfer student who has established eligibility at a former school in grades 9-12 shall be immediately eligible at the new school if:
1. The student moved simultaneously with the entire parental unit or persons he/she resided with at the former school, and the student and parent(s) or persons residing with the student live in the service area of the new school This is known as a “bona fide move.” 1. The student may choose the public or private school serving that area.
2. It must be apparent that the parent(s) or the persons residing with the student and the student have relinquished the residence in the former service area and have occupied a residence in the new service area.
3. Relinquishment of the former residence may be met by one of the following procedures: selling the residence; having the residence listed with a real estate agent for sale at a fair market value; having a contract with a buyer; having a lease agreement at a fair market value; or abandoning the house and shutting off unnecessary utilities. When a family claims multiple residences, the residence for which they apply for a homestead exemption will be declared the primary residence.
4. The bona fide move is validated when the student’s family maintains the new residence for at least one calendar year. A return to the previous residence within that year renders the student to be a migrant student. All hardship appeal processes are available.

2. The student was enrolled in a private school or a magnet school and has a bona fide move from one public school service area to another public school service area. A student in this situation may attend either the public school or a private school serving his area of residence.
3. The student was enrolled in a non-member private school in Georgia or was boarded at a school out of state and, without a bona fide move, transferred to a GHSA-member school that serves his area of residence as long as: 1. The student was enrolled at the high school serving his/her area of residence in grades 9-12 before attending the non-member school, OR
2. The student has not yet established eligibility at grades 9-12 at a member school serving his area of residence, OR
3. the student has previously established his attendance at a school other than the school serving his area of residence, and chooses to return to that school, AND
4. it is the initial move of the student from a non-member school to a member school serving his area of residence.

4. The student transfers from a non-member home school and the receiving school grants credit so that the student has accumulated sufficient Carnegie units. At the time such credit is given, the student must also have passed a minimum of at least 2.5 units the previous semester. The student becomes eligible when credit is awarded officially.
5. The student is involved in a foreign exchange program that is approved and published on the “Advisory List of International Educational Travel and Exchange Programs” published by the Council on Standards for International Educational Travel (CSIET). This list is found on the GHSA web site. 1. The student shall be considered eligible for a maximum period of one calendar year.
2. The student shall not be a graduate of a secondary school in his home country.
3. The student must maintain eligibility requirements at the member school.
4. The foreign exchange program must assign students to schools by a method that insures that no student, school, or other interested party may influence the assignment for athletic purposes.
5. All eligibility forms (Form B) for foreign exchange students must be accompanied by documentation from the CSIET-approved foreign exchange program showing that the student has been placed according to the normal procedures for that agency.

6. If one of his/her parents or the custodial parent is a certified teacher or administrator teaching at the receiving school. This opportunity is available one time only at any given school.
7. The student has one of the following family-related situations that produces a waiver of the bona fide move rule: 1. There is a Superior Court or Juvenile Court awarded change of permanent custody and the student moves to the residence of the parent receiving custody.
(a) The student must attend the member school serving that area of residence.

(b) A copy of the court order must accompany the eligibility forms.

(c) NOTE: Temporary guardianship papers issued by a Probate Court are not valid for eligibility.

2. There is a Superior Court or Juvenile Court final order awarding permanent joint custody to the parents and the student moves to a residence of his or her parent outside the service area of the previous school.
(a) This waiver may be made one time during a calendar year.

(b) A copy of the court order must accompany the eligibility forms.

3. There is a death of a custodial parent and the student moves to live with the other natural parent in a new school service area.
NOTE: A copy of the death certificate shall be submitted with the eligibility papers.

4. There is a military transfer of one or both custodial parents that creates a change of residence that is not a bona fide move. NOTE: A copy of the deployment order shall be submitted with the eligibility form.

(h) Students who are U.S. citizens returning from a foreign country shall be eligible as long as they meet all other requirements of eligibility.

(i) Students who are transferred from one school attendance area to another school attendance area by a mandate of the local board of education maintain their eligibility.

(j) Married students setting up a household (domicile) shall be eligible in the school of their residence provided they meet all other requirements of eligibility.

(k) Students at the Atlanta School for the Deaf will be eligible at the school serving their area of residence provided they meet all other eligibility requirements.

(l) The migratory rule (See 1.63) will be waived one time for students entering the following boarding schools:

Ben Franklin Academy Rabun Gap School Riverside Military Academy

Tallulah Falls School

Exception: Students from foreign countries not on an approved foreign exchange program are not eligible.

(m) Students entering a school as an “unaccompanied youth” under the conditions of the McKinney-Vento Act must go through the hardship appeal process to become eligible.

1.63 A “migrant student” is a student who transfers into a GHSA school without a bona fide move or without one of the exceptions listed in by-law 1.62. The student may practice or compete at the sub-varsity level, but may not compete at the varsity level for one calendar year from the date of his entry into the new school.

1.64 A student who is not eligible because of GHSA rules at the former school, and then transfers to a new school, cannot regain eligibility by the transfer. Ineligible students cannot gain eligibility by being adjudicated to YDC and subsequently returning to their resident school with earned credit.

1.65 Students whose transfers from member school to member school have been approved by the GHSA office after the end of regular season play or during post-season play are not eligible for participation in GHSA sponsored tournaments and/or playoffs in that particular sport for the school year of transfer.

1.66 A student who is not eligible at one school because of suspension or expulsion and then transfers to a member school cannot regain eligibility by such a transfer, for the length of the suspension or one calendar year, whichever is less.

1.67 A permissive transfer is defined as an allowance by a local board of education for students and/or their parents to choose a school to attend without regard to the location of residence.
1. A student transferring from member school to member school on a permissive transfer is considered a migrant student.
2. A student transferring to or from a school housing a system-wide, singular academic or vocation program or a magnet program on a permissive transfer is considered a migrant student. 1. The offering of an individual course or series of courses by one school in a system does not provide inherent justification to grant GHSA eligibility.
2. Special options offered by a school system that allow students to attend a school outside their area of residence do not provide inherent justification to grant GHSA eligibility.
3. Any such permissive transfer issue may be brought before the GHSA Hardship Committee.

3. Students transferring under the provisions of Federal or State academic accountability regulations must be processed through the normal hardship appeals process.
4. When a military base is located in two school districts, a student moving onto the base for the first time may choose to attend either school district, and that district will place the student appropriately. Any transfer after the initial move will be subject to standard eligibility regulations.

1.68 Hardship Applications may be filed to attempt to establish eligibility in the following situations:
1. A student who changes schools because of a temporary custody transfer from a parent to a guardian, or from one guardian to another (See Article IV, Section 5, in the GHSA Constitution).
2. A student whose transfer is based upon his being emancipated, homeless, a child from a broken home, a ward of the DFACS, or a ward of a Court (See Article IV, Section 5, in the GHSA Constitution).
3. In order for a hardship appeal based on a financial hardship to be approved, the new school must provide proof that the family attempted to address the financial problem at the previous school, and that the need-based financial aid was non-existent or insufficient to resolve the problem. Increases in tuition or other costs at a private school do not create an automatic reason to grant the appeal, because such fee increases are considered foreseeable and not unavoidable. Documentation of the financial problem is required.

1.69 When a new school opens, student eligibility shall be determined as follows:
1. When a school district mandates an attendance area for a new school for all grades enrolled at the new school, all students living within the mandated attendance area in those grades are immediately eligible. All students living outside the mandated attendance area who desire to attend the new school are considered migrant students and are ineligible for one year. Hardship appeals may be filed if conditions warrant.
2. When a school district mandates some students to attend the new school, allows some students to stay at their present school, and permits some students to transfer to the new school, the school shall set a deadline for students living in the attendance area of the new school to decide whether they will move to the new school, or stay at the present school. The decisions exercised at the deadline date are binding. Subsequent changes render the student to be a migrant student with the one-year period of ineligibility. Students who are granted permissive transfers to enroll at the new school from other schools within the system are considered to be migrant students. Hardship appeals may be filed if conditions warrant.

1.70 – RECRUITING/UNDUE INFLUENCE

1.71 Recruiting and Undue Influence is defined as the use of influence by any person connected directly or indirectly with a GHSA school to induce a student of any age to transfer from one school to another, or to enter the ninth grade at a member school for athletic or literary competition purposes, whether or not the school presently attended by the student is a member of the GHSA.
1. The use of undue influence to secure OR retain a student for competitive purposes is prohibited, and shall lead to penalties being assessed against either school. NOTE: This violation may cause the student to forfeit eligibility for one year from the date of enrollment.
2. Evidence of undue influence includes, but is not limited to: 1. personal contact initiated by coaches, boosters, or other school personnel in an attempt to persuade transfer
2. gifts of money, jobs, supplies or clothing
3. free transportation
4. free admission to contests
5. an invitation to attend practices and/or games
6. a social event (other than an official schoolwide Open House program) specifically geared for prospective athletes
7. free tuition beyond the allowable standards found in by-law 1.82
8. a coach asking a prospective student for contact information

3. Complaints or reports of violations of this rule will be investigated and handled on a case-by-case basis. If coaches are found to be in violation of the recruiting rule, a copy of the investigation will be forwarded to the Professional Standards Commission of the Department of Education.
4. A school will be afforded an opportunity to demonstrate it could not reasonably be expected to be responsible for the actions of a booster who is found to have violated the recruiting/undue influence rules.

1.72 A student athlete transferring from one member school to another shall be ruled ineligible for one year because of “undue influence” if it is proven that:
1. The coach of the receiving school coached an out-of-school team or all-star team on which the athlete played prior to the transfer; OR
2. The coach at the receiving school acted as a private athletic instructor for the transferring athlete, regardless of whether the coach was paid for his services and/or expertise; OR
3. The student participated in a sports camp or clinic run by a member school and/or its coach(es).
4. The player who played for a coach at a former GHSA school followed that coach when he/she moved to another GHSA school. (This is not applicable to dependent children of the coach.)
5. The situations cited in this by-law are considered to be violations even if a bona fide move has occurred, and the hardship appeal procedures are available for the demonstration that undue influence has not occurred.

1.73 A booster shall be considered to be an extension of the school and must abide by all rules applied to coaches and other school personnel. The following persons or groups may be considered boosters: members of the school’s Booster Club; alumni; parents; guardians; or relatives of a student or former student; financial donors; or donors of time and effort.

S. Thomas Coleman

August 24th, 2013
8:26 pm

Moto:

No loss for ELCA because the game doesn’t count. So their Power Ranking will be determined using nine games, not 10. However, I’ll check with the GHSA this week to get official clarification.

Thanks for reading and posting!

STC

S. Thomas Coleman

August 24th, 2013
8:37 pm

STC Fan:

First of all, that’s an AWESOME screen name!!

Now to your question. According to GHSA rule, when it comes to a player transferring from a public school to a private school, the player does not have to sit out as long as they live in the same county as the private school. PAC is in the city of Bogart which is partly in Clarke County and partly in Oconee County. Perhaps a PAC parent or supporter can let us know if the school is located in the Clarke part or the Oconee part of the city.

Either way, since Shields is on the field, he must live in the same county in which PAC is located — whether it’s Clarke or Oconee. Hope that helps.

Thanks for reading and posting!

STC

S. Thomas Coleman

August 24th, 2013
8:38 pm

Interested Party:

Thanks for the rules clarification …. I guess?

But thanks for reading and posting.

STC

Wrastling

August 24th, 2013
9:02 pm

Just another note, Mount Pisgah beat Mount Vernon today, 48-14 and it was 48-0 at halftime. Mount Vernon really shouldn’t be playing a Region schedule right now (much less playing in one of the toughest regions in Class A), but Pisgah did look good and should be a contender in 6B.

Augusta68

August 25th, 2013
7:18 am

Aquinas looked real good in their opener against a team that made the AA playoffs last year (they were up 45-0 at half). They are kind of being overlooked, but are returning 10 starters on defense and 9 on offense. Despite losing Douglas who is irreplaceable, they not only have 3 players on the preseason Class A all-state team, but have a real good Sophomore QB and Junior Reuben Garnett, who excelled at the Rivals Top 250 underclassmen camp in Dallas this summer and is now getting major D1 college interest. The GW game in two weeks will be a very good test to see how things go this season.

Class A Wizard

August 25th, 2013
7:44 am

I made the trip to Lincoln County this past Friday night to watch them vs McCormick. I watched this game last year and felt that Lincoln County was a little over hyped after the 2012 matchup. McCormick returned 10 on offense and 11 defense from a State Runner Up team in 2012 where all five O-linemen and all four D-linemen weigh in at more than 260lbs. Either 1) McCormick has fallen off that much since last season, or 2) Lincoln County has gotten that much better. This game was over with 10 minutes to go in the 2nd. LC is very young, but they are BIG, very fast and strong. I may try to get over to Washington-Wilkes in two weeks and watch them again to see which scenario holds true. If LC is truly that much better, then all other Class A Public schools may want to start talking about who will finish 2nd this year. Time will tell.

Cool hand Luke

August 25th, 2013
10:46 am

Jeremiah who?

Chargers66

August 25th, 2013
10:51 am

ELCA Could beat any AAAA in the state. Thats how loaded they are. Looks like a long season for the rest of region 5A

Football Mom

August 25th, 2013
10:55 am

Congrats to Landmark team that was out numbered and out sized by Calvary Day. Coaching and heart win out over talent every time.

STC Fan

August 25th, 2013
1:12 pm

@Chargers66 – I agree. So much so, the question over which team will be State Champ in Single A is settled and over (and I am not joking). The gap is so wide it has now become silly. I wonder if there will eventual be discussion among the ELCA leadership about playing up, like Marist does. Marist is an athletic powerhouse for their size and choose to play up a classification or two, otherwise it would be silly there as well, across multiple sports. Having no possibility of losing in Class A private, and more than likely winning every game by 30 to 60 points in Class A private, I honestly wonder if it loses some of the excitement. Whatever they are doing it is working, but frankly it is disappointing that the season’s outcome is a foregone conclusion. Please, no patronizing comments, such “well, that is why they play the games” or “they still have to prove it on the field”. They could win Class A private with their second string. Again, it is silly.

Big Boy Football

August 25th, 2013
1:19 pm

Thing to remember here, it’s single A, so it really doesn’t matter.

nourstuff

August 25th, 2013
1:51 pm

BBF, that post is quite consistent with ur monicker. Try again on the A blog someday after you grow up and mature a little. In the meantime, big boys such as yourself might as well practice tossing around childish insults in your own sandbox…

STC Fan

August 25th, 2013
2:39 pm

Big Boy – seriously, it does not matter at any level, no matter what level you are at. it is a game, it is supposed to be fun. It is a hobby for those on here to discuss. what is your problem. Although what is funny, is that ELCA could win every state championship through 4A and beat more than half of the 5A teams. But again, just let folks have fun. Go to the discussion board that makes you feel good.

mike

August 25th, 2013
6:40 pm

Whitefield Academy was off this past week, but looks good with returning starting QB and young but strong offensive line, alot of JV guys that played last year play varsity now, this was JV team that went undefeated. dont sleep on Whitefield, they play Pace season opener this friday

Swamp Lizard

August 25th, 2013
7:55 pm

@ Charger 66 & STC Fan ….. I think your getting a little carried away saying ELCA could win the state in AA, AAA, or AAAA …. they are good, but will have to play hard and even have Lady Luck to win Class A this year. They are not a GIVEN to win it all. Do I think they are the best Class A team? …. yes I do! But it will not come easy this year.
I am not sure ELCA would have got out of Washington Co this past Friday night with a win …. cancelled with Wash Co up 6-0 after a quarter and a half.

Swamp Lizard

August 25th, 2013
8:03 pm

@ Big Boy Football …. you really right …. it doesn’t matter until one of our Class A teams hits your Big Boys in the mouth and you go home with a loss.

Swamp Lizard

August 25th, 2013
8:07 pm

@ Wrastling / Augusta 68 / Class A Wizard / Mike ….. thanks for the update and takes on your teams and others. Hope you all stay with us for the season.

Swamp Lizard

August 25th, 2013
8:12 pm

@ Football Mom …. that was a big win for Landmark …. congrats. Looks like Region 5 will be tough again with ELCA, Landmark, OLM, Pace, and Holy Innocents.

Proud Pop

August 25th, 2013
8:23 pm

For the first time in years, Hebron Christian Academy is starting to look like a real program. 4 of their coaches played in the NFL and they have very few seniors. They lost to a bigger school Friday but fought the entire time. Being in Gwinnett, it won’t be long before it is a threat in Class A. The skill is there now, but the size is a year away.

Independent

August 25th, 2013
9:34 pm

Was lucky enough to attend the Pace Academy vs Wesleyan scrimmage, and some questions came into my head. The pace team, being so few in numbers as they are, looks like a totally new team than last year. An INCREDIBLE amount of new african-American players (not being stereotypical) on both sides of the ball. BIG boys. A lot of these kids being sophomores. Some red flags here…

Walker Fan

August 26th, 2013
8:12 am

What I the heck happened to ECI?

Billy the Goat

August 26th, 2013
9:33 am

@ S. Thomas Coleman/@ STC Fan…PAC is located in Oconee County

football fan

August 26th, 2013
9:51 am

To Mike: Whitefield’s JV team was undefeated because they played their varsity players for 2 quarters in all their JV games. Many of the “JV” players were actually starters on the varsity team.
So maybe Whitefield may not live up to your expectations since the “JV” players were already playing varisty last year. This is an example of win at all cost and certainly did not help develop the younger and upcoming players at Whitefield. I believe that is the goal of a JV program, and not to get additional reps for the varsity players

S. Thomas Coleman

August 26th, 2013
12:31 pm

Class A Wizard: Thanks for the info on Lincoln. Say what you will about Coach Campbell, but his teams are consistently among the most well coached in the state. They are always in the hunt and this year will be no different. They may be the public school favorite over ECI.

Thanks for reading and posting.

STC

S. Thomas Coleman

August 26th, 2013
12:33 pm

Chargers66:

I believe ELCA could compete with just about any team in the state, regardless of classification. And yes, I think they are clearly the best in Region 5, one is one of the toughest in Class A.

Thanks for reading and posting.

STC

S. Thomas Coleman

August 26th, 2013
12:36 pm

STC Fan:

While I believe ELCA is still the best Class A team on the private side, and perhaps the best in the entire classification, I don’t think they’ll win all their games by “30 to 60″ points. Last year’s team was as talented as almost any in the state, and so it will be tough to replace five Division I (FBS)-level players. And no, they would not win Class A private with their second string. That’s silly.

STC

S. Thomas Coleman

August 26th, 2013
12:38 pm

Big Boy Football:

Non-sense. We here in Class A land know better. There are plenty of teams in Class A that would/could compete in any classification, and some of the best athletes/players in the state compete in Class A.

Thanks for reading and posting.

STC

S. Thomas Coleman

August 26th, 2013
12:40 pm

Nourstuff:

Thanks for the smackdown! I take pride in the fact that the Class A blog leads the others in terms of decorum and cordial discussions. Kudos to all of you Class A Heads out there for that!

Thanks for reading and posting.

STC

S. Thomas Coleman

August 26th, 2013
12:41 pm

STC Fan:

Yes, ELCA could play with anyone in any class.

STC

S. Thomas Coleman

August 26th, 2013
12:43 pm

Mike:

I think Whitefield will have a better season this year and will make it into the Top 16 in the Private School Power Ratings. The game at Pace will be a good barometer for the Wolfpack.

Thanks for reading and posting.

STC

S. Thomas Coleman

August 26th, 2013
12:43 pm

Swamp:

Thanks for the dose of reality.

STC

S. Thomas Coleman

August 26th, 2013
12:45 pm

Swamp:

Yes, I think Regions 5 and 8 will be very treacherous this season.

STC

S. Thomas Coleman

August 26th, 2013
12:49 pm

Proud Pop:

Good for Hebron. It takes time to build a program and you’ll certainly take your lumps in Region 8. But I believe Hebron and Mt. Vernon Presbyterian can be very good in four or five years. Both provide a solid private school educational option for parents in two large talent-rich counties — Gwinnett and DeKalb.

Thanks for reading and posting.

STC

S. Thomas Coleman

August 26th, 2013
12:52 pm

Independent:

Interesting. What are the “red flags”?

Thanks for reading and posting.

STC

S. Thomas Coleman

August 26th, 2013
1:00 pm

Walker Fan:

Not sure. Perhaps his kids took Metter lightly after blasting them 42-7 last season. Undoubtedly, Metter has gotten better. I’ll try to check in with Coach Kearson this week.

Thanks for reading and posting.

STC

S. Thomas Coleman

August 26th, 2013
1:01 pm

Billy the Goat:

Thanks for the info. That means the Shields kid lives in Oconee County, so he did not have to sit out when he transferred in from North Oconee.

Thanks for reading and posting.

STC

S. Thomas Coleman

August 26th, 2013
1:02 pm

Football Fan:

I heard the same thing about Whitefield last season. However, it could be that they didn’t have enough players to fill out a complete JV team, but still wanted to play some JV games so that those kids could get some real game experience.

Thanks for reading and posting.

STC

LoveFridayFootball

August 26th, 2013
1:52 pm

STC: if a student from a public changes to a private while in highschool the student still has to move even if they already live in that county, unless they sit out a year.

S. Thomas Coleman

August 26th, 2013
4:17 pm

LoveFridayFootball:

That’s not true. A student’s family does not have to move just for the sake of moving, if they already live in the same county as the private school to which they are transferring. I know personally of a couple of players who transferred from public to private and were allowed to play immediately because they lived in the same county as the private school. And I know of a player who had to sit out a year because that student/athlete’s family did NOT live in the same county as the private school.

STC

Walker Fan

August 26th, 2013
4:59 pm

The county line things seems arbitrary and silly depending on where one lives in the county. Maybe they should consider a mileage based model versus a county line based model…probably just as goofy. Private schools should ditch GHSA. Given the separate playoffs, etc. I am not sure what value they get from playing under the GHSA rules at least if the school is Atlanta based. I suppose if the private school is in the middle of nowhere then they might have good reason. I hate the whole idea of recruiting…hate it, hate it, hate it…but this is just goofy.

I am serious about this question, someone please help me understand in the current model, the benefit to anyone, public or private, or private schools staying under GHSA?

mike

August 26th, 2013
7:35 pm

@football fan actually that is not true, as being a player of Whitefield Academy I can attest that the entire offensive line were JV players only and still went undefeated, varsity players stayed on varsity with the exception of one inelgible player, so next time, get your facts straight before making an argument. Go Pack

mike

August 26th, 2013
7:40 pm

@indepedent Pace recruited lineman from Peachtree Ridge, everyone knows it, they are still short on numbers which makes it hard for them to compete in the tough region they are in

football fan

August 26th, 2013
8:41 pm

Mike, speaking of facts, game film does not lie. How come the skilled positions #18,8,22,and 3 played two quarters most JV games and then played most of the varsity games?

LoveFridayFootball

August 26th, 2013
10:07 pm

STC: we had a player last year that missed his jr year because of a no move from his family. He played his sr year after sitting out a year. Two other kids had to play jv until they moved. All were in Henry Co. So I’m not sure what rules the kids you’re speaking of are following. There are some exceptions to the rule but a s/a can’t just come over to ELCA or any other public or private school without moving….

mike

August 27th, 2013
8:10 am

football fan, what game film do you have of JV games? those guys were sophomores who happened to play both due to lack of players, 18 was a freshman that played only JV. towards the second half of the season they played less and less. doesnt matter, football is football and this is a new year

bucket

August 27th, 2013
8:35 am

@ STC – you are correct. Prince had 4 players leave the school during the summer last year and they were ruled immediately eligible at North Oconee.

S. Thomas Coleman

August 27th, 2013
8:36 am

Walker Fan:

I think you are right about the apparent arbitrary nature of the way the county line rule is applied. And then there is the hardship/appeal process that plays a role as well.

As far as the benefits of being in the GHSA, I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that being in the GHSA gives your school “legitimacy.” No disrespect to the GISA and the other “independent school leagues” that are in Georgia, but a kid at a Class A GHSA school will get more “respect” as a player than a AAA player in GISA or the other leagues. That probably isn’t fair, but it is what it is.

STC