Semifinal pairings: Calhoun, St. Pius win coin flips

By Score Atlanta

Class AAAAAA

North Cobb at Lovejoy

Colquitt County at Norcross

Class AAAAA

Northside-Warner Robins at Ware County*

Gainesville at Whitewater

Class AAAA

Monroe Area at Sandy Creek **

Marist at Ridgeland*

Class AAA

Buford at Cartersville

North Hall at St. Pius*

Class AA

GAC at Jefferson

Lamar County at Calhoun*

Class A – Private

Landmark Christian at Prince Avenue Christian

George Walton Academy at Eagle’s Landing Christian

Class A – Public

Dooly County at Lincoln County

Emanuel County Institute at Wilcox County

*Indicates a coin flip determined home field advantage

** Sandy Creek won the coin toss over Monroe Area; however, Sandy Creek’s home field does not meet the GHSA permanent seating requirements needed to host a playoff game beyond the third round. Per GHSA rules, the total seating capacity for Class AAAA must be 4,000. According to the GHSA website, Sandy Creek will host the game.

46 comments Add your comment

Jason

December 1st, 2012
2:48 pm

Brooks County Brought the Hammer and Calhoun used it on them. Don’t see any comments from Brooks County today.

YELLERJACKETZ1

December 1st, 2012
5:03 pm

YEAH ME NEITHER JASON THEY R HUNG OVER FROM ALL THAT GATORADE THEY ABSORBED LAST NIGHT!!!

dawg4life

December 1st, 2012
8:46 pm

Thank u Cartersville for knocking out Thomson neither the fans or the team had any class.Once again thank u from Jackson High School

the champ is here!

December 1st, 2012
10:30 pm

hal must have remembered where he put at 2 headed quater last week.lol…can’t wait till friday night at the reeve…watched replay of lamar co vs lovett on ghsa replay…small team but some good player,to bad most play both ways….don’t think they can handle jackets uptempo game for 48 minutes..

the champ is here!

December 1st, 2012
10:40 pm

oh yeah!! i’m sure those brooks co fans would be talking some smack(ie;hammertime,trojan4life,and the rest of ya’ll..you know who you are) but there to busy eatting all that humble pie.lol…

First Down "Creeeekkk"

December 2nd, 2012
3:51 pm

SC won the coin flip today versus Monroe Area. Creek’s fans will not have to travel to Walton County to support the Patriots. Northgate H.S. in Coweta COunty has the capacity to host a semi-final game, so hopefully SC can get it worked out. SC will share more info on Monday.

KD

December 2nd, 2012
4:26 pm

So SC doesn’t have the seating capacity either ?

Chris

December 2nd, 2012
5:23 pm

Ware won the coin flip.

Dum-Bass

December 2nd, 2012
5:52 pm

There’s a classic example of why I hate the coin flip to determine homefield, and why it’s so wrong. Why should an undefeated team such as Northside/WR(13-0) have to go on the road in the playoffs against a team with one loss, Ware County? Regular season records should be worth something. Sorry, but there should only be a coin flip if all other options have been used up. GHSA needs to change this for that reason, and about 10 others!

The Truth

December 2nd, 2012
6:29 pm

Dum-Bass … This is just another in the seemingly infinite list of crap set forward by the idiots who make up the GHSA Board and leadership..

the truth

December 2nd, 2012
7:42 pm

Dum-Bas..you can not conclude that Northside deserves home field based on record only. The regions these teams came from played each other in the opening round and went 2-2 so the regions are even as far as head to head matchups in the playoffs. The only loss for Ware is to a team from a higher classification so that is not really a negative. If I substitute Coffee County on Ware’s schedule with Veteran’s High School form a class lower that Northside played, Ware is probably 13-0 like Northside.
If Northside is the better team, and they probably are, they will win. If they are not better, they will lose. Norcross was able to go to Camden in the same situation and win. No excuses for Northside.

WillinRoswell

December 2nd, 2012
8:22 pm

What ever happened to neutral sites – except the Dome?

BW

December 2nd, 2012
8:32 pm

How bout them BWolves, moved up to AAA and still going strong!!!

GHSA

December 2nd, 2012
9:23 pm

Any word on where the NCHS-Lovejoy game will be played?

junkyarddawg

December 2nd, 2012
9:32 pm

Went to North Hall last week expecting to see Peach Co light it up. Boy was I wrong. North Hall was outstanding. Quick & fast. Two steps ahead of PC all night. 52-10 was no fluke. Too bad they are forced to travel – they have a great stadium & great crowd – classic HS football setting. St Pius better watch out. NH should make it to the DOME.

Idea from Buckeye Land

December 2nd, 2012
9:58 pm

As I have stated since home teams make less than the visitors do in the playoffs neutral sites after the 1st round like Ohio does. Evens things out a bit. The refs are from out of town so lets have the teams meet halfway.
But can you imagine trying tell the class(less) A public school coaches. Why they might just revolt and leave again. Really who needs them let them go. Setting up another governing body would of cost them money.
Thats nice got two things out that have bothered me a while AJC comment section cheaper than seeing a shrink.

Jacketaxe

December 2nd, 2012
11:36 pm

If you win the flip there is little to cry about.

South Georgia Observer

December 3rd, 2012
7:32 am

North Cobb at Lovejoy. See you there

bigfanofruralsports

December 3rd, 2012
8:18 am

The home away issue is the least of the GHSA problems. If they get the recruiting under control then worry about the home away issue. Buford and Calhoun recruit like crazy as GHSA sits by and watches. The rural communties are restricted to the people that live in the community. Teams should be classed according to county population not by attendance of the school, this is how Buford and Calhoun and many other undrer classed schools get by. If you can handpick the surrounding community of a hundred thousand you of course will get better teams when your competition is restricted to small borders. The original goal of GHSA was to bring fairness and parity to Ga high schools, but when the majority of the rule makers are from the urban areas then the urban areas are going to get the advantages. Make classification according to county size, then if your school is not competitive join GISA. Every person that follows high school sports knows the advantages these teams have but nothing is being done, that is just wrong.

DAWG

December 3rd, 2012
10:31 am

We got past Tucker, now it’s on to Ware County. I’m expecting another close one! Lets Go Eagles!!

james

December 3rd, 2012
11:11 am

Perhaps, bigfanofruralsports, you should know what you’re talking about before you open your mouth. Calhoun is a city of approx. 15,000 in a county of approx. 55,000. There’s hardly the “big pool” you speak of, particularly when the county school system (Calhoun is the only high school in the city school system) has two high schools of its own. Anyone who has ever visited would not question that it is indeed fairly rural; that other counties may be more rural is immaterial to whether Gordon County is. Even if, under your proposal, you were to class by county size, with three schools the county population divided by 3 is under 20,000 per school, still fairly small.

ALL TUCKERRED UP

December 3rd, 2012
11:15 am

@BIG FAN You have to include most private schools like Puis in this group. At least Marist playsw up!!!!

Morgan Co Dad

December 3rd, 2012
12:54 pm

Was shocked to see Peach County fall big to North Hall. After our Morgan Co. boys fell to North a week earlier in a defensive barnburner of a game where we only allowed them 3 first downs and lost by 4 points, I expected Peach to tromp. Makes us all wonder ‘coulda, shoulda, woulda’

They should have their hands full with St Pius, but who knows.

Old man at Wendy,s

December 3rd, 2012
2:04 pm

Peach County has great fans and a Great football Team.They were great before and after the game.I called their coach and left him a message. Go North Hall

Tucker Sucker

December 3rd, 2012
2:07 pm

Looks like when Tucker has to play similar sized schools they tend to lose……that’s just too bad for you We are Tucker fans (a cheer they hijacked from Marist).

Observer

December 3rd, 2012
2:09 pm

Those in Class AAA better hope St. Pius wins if they want a competitive game for Buford…..North Hall has already been clown stomped by the Wolves. Same thing or worse will happen in the Dome if North Hall wins.

bigfanofruralsports

December 3rd, 2012
2:52 pm

James,
I know how testy and defensive you guys get when you are called out on recruiting. Lets use common sense and stay cordial and not call people names or hate because opinions are different. Nobody said divide the population by number of schools. Use total county numbers to determine the classification. If you have 55,000 in your county then all schools in the county should be in same class as counties with 55000 not in a class with teams that have 15000 in their county. GHSA has allowed teams to program build in the URBAN areas by using the numbers game. The only fair way is to go by county population. It is the most obvious way to be fair. There is no discussion. How can a school that has only 15000 not be at a disadvantage to a school that has 55000 to choose from, not to mention the other 300k people with 50 miles of the school. To keep the rules as they are now “to go to the school you must ACTUALLY live in the school district and if a school has any student athletes on a team that does not live within the defined school district the school must multiply by 1.5.” if a school is found to be in non compliance the school will be fined and school removed and banned from GHSA along with the coaches and administrators. If these rules were in place i gurantee you the lanscape of football will change. Success will be more equally distributed throughout the state urban and rural and will save school systems millions of dollars.

Tom

December 3rd, 2012
3:42 pm

The successful programs are frequently (though not exclusively) in areas where the community throws a lot of money into athletics. The schools build bigger fieldhouses, buy newer equiptment, and provide a variety of amenities within the rules. The booster clubs provide substantial stipends to head coaches (and sometimes assistants). These things act as magnets to draw a few talented players in. As these programs show repeated success, additional players show up wanting to get in on the mixture of facilities, coaching, and publicity.

Some schools don’t need to recruit and largely they don’t (despite claims to the contrary); they win because their parents/community throws money at the program. While there are legacy programs that succeed despite being poorer than their neighbors and there are teams flush with funds that continue to do poorly, the single biggest common factor is “what can you offer me?” There is no simple solution to fixing this (unless you don’t believe in capitalism).

My proposal would be a required promotion situation (you can never be lower than a certain classification but you can be forced to move up in classification if you are repeatedly successful over a four year time period). All of the teams at a school wouldn’t necessarily be in the same classification – probably the most complicated element and biggest headache – but it would help level the playing field with those programs that are constantly above their peers in enrollment.

6AAAAAA

December 3rd, 2012
5:00 pm

Sandy Creek (i.e. Fayette County) has plenty of $$$ – it’s Peachtree city for gosh sakes.. They were in the hunt the last two years…build for success or play at the other guys house.

Just a Fan

December 3rd, 2012
6:28 pm

6AAAAAA-I think it’s Tyrone-could be wrong(again). Not sure where the attendance lines are. Agree with you on the stadium issue-a program that succesfull deserves more-especially on the visitors side.

Just a Fan

December 3rd, 2012
6:36 pm

Tom-agree with the 1st part-then you obviously support capitalism followed by a plan to punish the high achievers. You are dead on about some schools being more attractive to athletes-the people making the unfounded recruting accusations will never grasp this. What puzzles me is the large number of families with no roots in a community-they can move yearly to let junior play with a big name program. It’s not limited to football or 1 sex either.

DownByTheCreek

December 3rd, 2012
8:52 pm

Just a Fan you’re absolutely correct Sandy Creek is in Tyrone not Peachtree City these are two different cities. Peachtree City has McIntosh High School and Starrs Mills High School a lot closer to Peachtree City than SC.

trojan024

December 3rd, 2012
9:23 pm

sandy creek come to carrollton you will have lots of more fans

Patriot Power

December 3rd, 2012
9:24 pm

Our county has a 20 million dollar shortfall for next year. Our stadium situation will not be changing any time soon. I personally do not mind a small stadium as long as we keep winning.

P.S. Despite our closeness to Atlanta, we are in a rural community and we do not recruit.

Jacketaxe

December 4th, 2012
7:05 am

I like the way things are and the way they are going, you get what you work for not what you wish for.

bwolves

December 4th, 2012
8:20 am

bigfanofruralsports- Don’t tell me, your team is not in the playoffs. Buford does not have any advantage that many other schools within the state don’t have. Buford is fortunate enough to be in the county with the largest school system. We have built an excellent school with excellent facilities and sports programs, that’s why parents want to send their kids here. Buford doesn’t have to recruit anybody. Quit your whinning and go get that round ball out. We have business to take care of this Friday. Flame on.

NoDistrictLinesInDekalb

December 4th, 2012
8:42 am

@bigfan,@allTucker@patriot, recuirting at the Dekalb schools is off the chain how do you have a fb at Stephenson and qb at Mcnair or was it redan play the next year for MLK.
Tucker you have Dunwoodys starting rb from last year. This is very common among Dekalb schools but you see they are all out of the playoffs. Maybe there is a reason for that.
Pat you must not live in a glass house because you had a lb leave a school after the season started a couple years ago and played for you in the playoffs. Now you have a kid thats been to 4 different hs in 4 years please stop everyone has a skeleton in their closet. Dont give me that junk his family is doing what it thinks best for the kid. Alpharetta is a fine academic high school. I guess some closets are bigger than others.
The city schools draw from everywhere I don’t belive you can go for free at Buford, Calhoun or the baseball school in S Georgia? I am suprised that Decatur city schools haven’t jumped on the band wagon last season I saw the new digs and they are pretty nice. They are already good in basketball a few more football players and they are in the playoffs for sure.
I do feel sorry for you Pat Power but what county hasn’t been ripped off by their school board members look at Dekalb and the building scandal here !

northern neighbor

December 4th, 2012
9:35 am

Where are all the advocates for school choice on this issue? If you want to your child in a different school, then move to that school district.
With today’s high unemployment, it’s not unusual to find families moving, sometimes frequently. Schools have policies and rules about who can attend.
Schools that have traditionally good athletic programs typically also have good academic programs, and there is typically strong community support. That makes for better schools and better student outcomes. There will always be someone who abuses the system. It’s too bad we don’t live in a perfect world.

TY

December 4th, 2012
9:45 am

Look at the history of all Georgia City School systems, Buford, Calhoun, Carrollton, Valdosta, Thomasville, Vidalia, Dublin, Commerce, Dalton Lagrange. With the players within the city limits they have an advantage because those kids have a close proximity to the school. Those schools have a history of winning in Football and other sports. In the corresponding county schools except Gwinnett the county schools do not have such a winning history except in recent years at Lowndes. City schools that use to have winning programs that consolidated with the county schools Waycross/Ware, Americus/Sumter, Upson/R.E. Lee, E. Rome/W. Rome into Rome. They have not won as frequently as their previous City school use to win.

BrunoBars

December 4th, 2012
10:24 am

Seems like we could cut a paste posts from season to season and just imput different schools. Everyone cries about recruiting. Until backed up with facts and or rules are changed, this is what we have to work with. Looks like we all should just deal with it.

BrunoBars

December 4th, 2012
10:24 am

Meant to say, cut and paste, and input.

Packdaddy

December 4th, 2012
10:31 am

If you are from south Georgia, the Dome is certainly not a neutral site… I like the home field rule all the way through. Of course, playing away games has not been a bad pattern for the Packers of late. Road Tested Warriors, that is what we are. Lately, Your House has become Our House!

Tom

December 4th, 2012
2:02 pm

Just a Fan: How is it penalizing teams to be pushed up? Wouldn’t the ultimate goal be to be the very best as opposed to just the biggest fish in a small pond?

But there’s no doubt that some of the movement is facilitated through secondary parties to skirt the rules… the truth is, in most cases you can neither claim they are actually breaking rules and you cannot carefully craft the rules in such a way to make them to ensure the fairness you’re looking for.

On a secondary note, American pro sports are the very definition of socialism in action and IMO most Americans prefer it that way.

calhounfan

December 4th, 2012
9:59 pm

Can anyone speculate what happend with Brooks county? Ive heard all year how good they were and how Calhoun didnt play anyone. Were they affected by the drive maybe? Was Calhoun really that much better? Usually teams are matched up pretty well by the quarter finals. I cant imagine the Brooks county team i saw in Calhoun beating Valdosta. They must have gotten overwhelmed by the whole Calhoun experince. Im not downing Brooks at all. They had a great year. No one can argue that fact. Just wondering what went wrong with Brooks to cause such a lopsided loss. What do you guys think?

YELLERJACKETZ1

December 5th, 2012
12:31 am

I HAVE ALREADY TOLD YOU THAT BROOKS CO. TROJANS GOT HAMMERED BY A BIG DOSE OF GATORADE

calhounfan

December 5th, 2012
7:05 pm

Does anyone know anything about Lamar County?