Public, private playoff pairings set by the GHSA, some take issue with steps in process

 By S. Thomas Coleman
For the AJC

Now that the Power Ranking system for determining playoff teams in Class A football has officially done its job, it is fairly safe to say that a couple of tweaks will most likely be made before next season. 

The Georgia High School Association certified the rankings on Wednesday and announced the playoff pairings for both the public and private school playoffs, after hearing a total of seven appeals, according to GHSA executive director Ralph Swearngin. However, only one appeal was upheld, made by Darlington of Rome. The Tigers pointed out that their point total was .02 too high, but the correction did not change their No. 8 seeding. 

The other protests, Swearngin said, were against the process used to determine Power Rankings. But the rules could not be changed. 

“They appealed because they didn’t like the steps in the process, not that they thought their numbers were wrong,” Swearngin said. “The members of the appeals committee didn’t feel we could change the rules at this point.” 

The two main arguments against the process Swearngin said were that teams did not get credit for their opponents that did not play a region schedule, and teams were awarded too many points for playing teams from higher classifications. 

“It’s my guess that the various committees will take a look at these issues,” Swearngin said of the possibility that some of the rules may change for next season. 

But that doesn’t help Telfair County and head coach Matt Burleson. His team did not get credit for a win over Baconton Charter, a team that played a non-region schedule. Had Telfair been given credit for the win, it would have advanced to the public school playoffs, where two teams the Trojans defeated — Turner County and Charlton County — will compete next week. 

“I’m upset because [the GHSA] didn’t tell us this until the fourth week of the season,” said Burleson, who in his first year at Telfair improved upon a combined record of 1-19 over the previous two seasons. “If I would have known that, I wouldn’t have scheduled them.” 

(Playoffs begin Nov. 23)

PUBLIC SCHOOL PAIRINGS

No. 1 Lincoln County hosts No. 16 Hancock Central

No. 2 Wilcox County hosts No. 15 Greenville

No. 3 Emanuel County Institute hosts No. 14 Gordon Lee

No. 4 Seminole County hosts No. 13 Commerce

No. 5 Dooly County hosts No. 12 Turner County

No. 6 Irwin County hosts No. 11 Trion

No. 7 Marion County host No. 10 Charlton County

No. 8 Miller County hosts No. 9 Wilkinson County

 

PRIVATE SCHOOL PAIRINGS

No. 1 Athens Academy hosts No. 16 Mt. Pisgah Christian

No. 2 Eagle’s Landing Christian Acacdemy hosts No. 15 Our Lady of Mercy

No. 3 Walker hosts No. 14 Athens Christian

No. 4 Brookstone hosts No. 13 First Presbyterian

No. 5 Calvary Day hosts No. 12 Landmark Christian

No. 6 Aquinas host No. 11 George Walton Academy

No. 7 Savannah Christian hosts No. 10 Holy Innocents

No. 8 Darlington hosts No. 9 Prince Avenue Christian

38 comments Add your comment

Swamp Lizard

November 14th, 2012
5:43 pm

….. at least we know who plays who now.

put me in coach

November 14th, 2012
6:19 pm

I guess you can call the public champion of South GA and the champion of the privates as the champion of the North.

Petl

November 14th, 2012
6:32 pm

Darlington’s Power Rating went down .20 points and they did fall from a 7 seed to an 8.

Maybe the first change the GHSA should consider is finding a competent “statistical partner”.
As of a few minutes ago, MaxPreps had not posted the Class A brackets and listed George Walton Acadamy as Darlington’s opponent.

YellowJacket

November 14th, 2012
7:00 pm

I have an idea. Go back to one playoff system.

C. Bridges

November 14th, 2012
7:01 pm

All games are listed on GaSports.Com

Mt. Zion Fan

November 14th, 2012
7:10 pm

System is flawed,, Mt zion Robbed won sub region no dance. while Gordon Lee backs into playoff with 4 straight losses, One to mt. zion. way to go, you have a system where you dont even have to win. Good Job. Im assumming they are College grads, probably Georgia with that logic. Surely didnt grad from georgia tech. As Trump would say, Your Fired

TCDAWG25

November 14th, 2012
7:13 pm

@ All who do you guys and girls have making it to the dome in each brackets.

mike

November 14th, 2012
7:24 pm

How about whitefield academy not getting in the playoffs. ghsa did not count the win against st.francis because st.francis did not play a region schedule. However, Mt. Pisgah made it in as the 16 seed, even though whitefield defeated Mt. Pisgah 28 to 6. looks like GHSA screwed up.

mike

November 14th, 2012
8:14 pm

@ TCDAWG25 ELCA will be the State Champion. no doubt in my mind.

BehindEnemyLines

November 14th, 2012
8:34 pm

What is with all the misinformation about the “what ifs”. Even if the win over Baconton Charter had counted, Telfair still comes up short. Do the math.

Telfair has a final p.r. of 10.56 based on 9 games. That’s 95.04 power points. Hypothetically you add Baconton. They finished 4-6 (if you’re generous & count the JV squad they beat in the final week). 10 power points for the win plus 4 more for the OppWinPctX10 component, that’s 14 power points to Telfair. 95.04 + 14 = 109.04 / 10 games (now) = power rating if 10.90.

16th place had a 10.98., 17th a 10.94, all that game would have gotten Telfair is tied for 18th.

Swamp Lizard

November 14th, 2012
8:50 pm

@ TCDAWG25 …. ECI ( Public ) & ELCA ( Private )

TCDAWG25

November 14th, 2012
9:14 pm

@ Swamp Lizard those are my picks especially if both stay healthy. ECI has had some major injuries late in the season the past two years. So as long as we stay healthy I believe we will be in the GA Dome for the Championship. I don’t see anyone stopping ELCA on the private side.

Ain't no lion like

November 14th, 2012
10:34 pm

Enter your comments here

Mr. Politicaly Correct

November 14th, 2012
10:37 pm

Just let every team make it. Cut the regular season down by a game..This way no one gets job or their feelings hurt.

MCMBAA

November 14th, 2012
11:32 pm

@ MPC…..ROFLOL!! Sadly, the coach from Seminole County would actually agree with that solution. He said in an earlier article that he would like the system to be altered so that 32 of the 39 public schools would be allowed to advance to the playoffs. In related news, the GHSA is considering making every player after every game hug their opponents and tell them one thing that they like about them before leaving the field. Geez.

ELCATRAZ

November 15th, 2012
7:57 am

That’s what’s wrong with the USA Today!! (Not the Paper) Most people want it handed to them rather than go earn it, so they can deserve it…thank you thank you..I’ll be here all week.. LOL

Swamp Lizard

November 15th, 2012
8:46 am

@TCDAWG25 …. I’ve got ECI vs Wilcox Co in the semi’s ….. Dooly Co vs Lincoln Co in the other semi’s …… ECI vs Lincoln Co for the state championship. Just bring me an ECI T-shirt for the Dome ….. I’ll be right there with ya !!

Swamp Lizard

November 15th, 2012
8:53 am

@ TCDAWG25 …. the Private backet could go a lot of different ways ….. I really think Landmark can get back to the Dome and play ELCA again …. it’ll be a tough row to hoe as a #12 seed, but if they can get by Calvary Day ( round 1 ), they’ll handle the 1st Pres / Brookstone winner ( in round 2 ) …… & I think they match up well with Athens Academy or Prince Ave ( in the semi’s / upper half ) … they are a lot better team than the 43-0 loss to ELCA ( who played an “A” game that night ). I think George Walton ( #11 ) seed is going to make some noise too ….. I have them matched up against ELCA in the semi’s in the lower half.

Ralph

November 15th, 2012
9:31 am

Maybe Lincoln Co. Will get past the first round this year since they won’t be playing Savannah Christian. The red devil coach got his wish!! Cluck Cluck

Ralph

November 15th, 2012
9:36 am

What will cry about this year!

Ralph

November 15th, 2012
9:38 am

Pardon me……What will LCHS coach cry about now that he doesn’t have to play the private schools!!

Dawgma

November 15th, 2012
9:56 am

Congratulations GHSA you fools. You let the south Ga schools ram this 6 classification system down our throat and walah Camden County snags the easy path to 6a semis. Meanwhile schools in North Atlanta with 2000 students face Gwinnett mega schools with 3400 students.

The real beauty is the thing you tried to fix A class and privies have a world class CF where schools traditionally out are in via “power ratings” not record on the field. Swearinger and the GHSA board is a corrupt bunch of thugs bought and sold by the privies and mega-schools.

Fire Swearinger today!

Ralph

November 15th, 2012
10:10 am

Combined power rankings would contain mostly private schools

1-AA

November 15th, 2012
10:45 am

HELLO, SOUTH IS PUBLIC AND THE NORTH IS PRIVATE…. NOW WE HAVE THE BEST PLAYOFF GOING IN NATION..LET US SAY YEAH TO THE MAN AT THE TOP—JOB WELL DONE….LEAVE IT ON THE FEILD—4–12a-aa. HAVE SOME FUNN ON BOTH SIDES—MEET ME IN COLLEGE NOW…

BehindEnemyLines

November 15th, 2012
1:10 pm

@Ralph — combined power rankings are almost exactly evenly split, especially at the top.

#1,3,5,7,9,12,15,16 are public …. #2,4,6,8,10,11,13,14 are private

In fact, of the top 32 in the combined power rankings there are 18 publics & 14 privates.
And of the first six out, there are 3 of each.

Ralph

November 15th, 2012
1:35 pm

When you at how many less private school there are, you will see what I mean.

Ralph

November 15th, 2012
3:53 pm

Don’t count Savannah Christian out. They beat Calvary and played a tough schedule including ECI and Prince Ave.

BehindEnemyLines

November 15th, 2012
10:28 pm

@ Ralph – There’s a difference of 9 schools playing region schedules between public (38) & private (29) in class A. That 57% public – 43% private.

The top 32 power ratings are 56% public – 44% private. Would be pretty tough to have it be any more representative of the classification as a whole than that.

BehindEnemyLines

November 15th, 2012
10:31 pm

I just noticed that there’s yet another factual error in this blog entry.

The reduction in Darlington’s power rating DID result in changed seeding, dropping them from #7 to #8, behind Savannah Christian (13.05). Darlington’s power rating as posted on Tuesday (before appeals) was 13.22, that’s 0.20 deduction, not 0.02 as stated here in on the blog.

BehindEnemyLines

November 15th, 2012
10:33 pm

For as inept as I think Dr. Ralph is, this whole mess was not of his making. That blame lies with the executive committe who voted it in pretty overwhelmingly. Of course most of those voting members don’t have to deal with it, they aren’t from Class A.

nourstuff

November 15th, 2012
10:49 pm

BEL, don’t concern yourself with facts Re this topic. Over the past few days the misinformation spouted by both those writing these articles and those commenting on them has been a constant (c.f. Mt. Zion, Telfair, PR procedures, etc.). Your attempt to reason gets in the way of those wanting to troll and bluster.

BehindEnemyLines

November 15th, 2012
10:58 pm

Your right nourstuff, but at least this way the powers that be at the ajc realize how often it’s happening (if anyone in authority actually bothered to pay attention to this space)

nourstuff

November 15th, 2012
11:03 pm

Maybe instead of stroking the whiners, STC could get a comment from Darlington as to why they appealed to lower their own PR? Just gaming the system to avoid ELCA on the lower half of the bracket?

Swamp Lizard

November 16th, 2012
7:35 am

@ nourstuff …. I don’t know if they tried to avoid ELCA, but that 1st round game isn’t a “cupcake” ….. catching Prince Ave in round one isn’t what I’d call winning. They ( the Darlington staff / AD ) was probably just trying to be honest.

Jim

November 16th, 2012
8:11 am

How is Darlington gaming the system? Like Swamp Lizard wrote, their appeal was honest. They will play whomever the brackets dictate they play.

innocent bystander

November 16th, 2012
12:19 pm

@ nourstuff & swamp lizard…..If Darlington has any sense at all, they will do anything possible to avoid ELCA ! As would every other 1A team in GA., or FLA., or ALA.,………..

Ralph

November 16th, 2012
1:38 pm

BEL. There are many less private schools I ga than public schools. That’s what I mean by percentages

nourstuff

November 16th, 2012
1:52 pm

I feel for you BEL, just walk away :)