Strength of schedule for AAAAAA and AAAAA teams
Colquitt County and Coffee play on Friday in Moultrie in a game that might decide which team makes the playoffs out of Region 1-AAAAAA. According to the computer Maxwell Ratings, Colquitt is the eighth-best team and Coffee is the 13th best in AAAAAA. But they also have the toughest two schedules in the state, and the loser will be hard-pressed to make the playoffs. Here are the Maxwell Ratings’ rankings of each team’s strength of schedule for AAAAAA and AAAAA. We’ll have the other classifications later in the week. The rating is an indication of strength for the average opponent. For example, Colquitt’s average opponent is about 13 points better than Lassiter’s average opponent, according to Maxwell.
Class AAAAAA
1. Colquitt County (5-3) 76.26
2. Coffee (5-3) 74.2
3. Dacula (1-7) 72.75
4. Tift County (2-7) 72.16
5. Brookwood (6-2) 70.68
6. Brunswick (3-5) 70.62
7. Parkview (6-2) 70.54
8. South Gwinnett (6-2) 70.18
9. Central Gwinnett (4-4) 70.14
10. Valdosta (5-3) 70.01
11. Peachtree Ridge (3-5) 69.7
12. Walton (6-2) 68.94
13. Woodstock (3-5) 68.38
14. Berkmar (1-7) 68.07
15. Grayson (7-1) 67.71
16. Archer (6-3) 66.85
17. Roswell (2-6) 66.54
18. Milton (5-3) 66.05
19. Shiloh (3-6) 65.94
20. Alpharetta (5-3) 64.96
21. Centennial (3-5) 64.67
22. Camden County (8-0) 64.66
23. McEachern (6-2) 64.58
24. Norcross (9-0) 64.54
25. Mountain View (3-5) 64.52
26. Etowah (4-4) 64.47
27. Wheeler (4-4) 64.37
28. Cherokee (1-7) 64.36
29. Harrison (4-4) 64.05
30. Duluth (3-5) 64
31. East Coweta (3-5) 63.93
32. Lassiter (8-0) 63.85
33. Mill Creek (5-3) 63.7
34. West Forsyth (7-1) 63.11
35. Pebblebrook (0-8) 62.66
36. Collins Hill (5-3) 62.45
37. Johns Creek (7-1) 62.32
38. Habersham (1-8) 62.26
39. Hillgrove (5-3) 61.61
40. Marietta (6-2) 61.41
41. Meadowcreek (0-8) 61.3
42. Lowndes (9-0) 61.15
43. Lambert (5-3) 60.95
44. Chattahoochee (5-3) 60.93
45. North Gwinnett (7-1) 60.89
46. Westlake (0-8) 60.85
48. Douglas County (2-6) 60.54
47. Tri-Cities (3-5) 60.54
49. North Cobb (6-2) 60.26
50. Kennesaw Mtn. (2-6) 58.96
51. North Forsyth (3-5) 58.84
52. South Cobb (6-2) 58.23
53. Campbell (3-6) 57.81
54. Newnan (6-2) 57.14
55. South Forsyth (3-5) 56.33
56. Newton (3-5) 52.53
57. Hughes (7-1) 52.46
58. Rockdale County (2-6) 49.23
59. Luella (2-7) 48.87
60. Lovejoy (8-1) 47.09
61. Alcovy (3-5) 47.06
62. Morrow (1-7) 44.9
63. Druid Hills (3-5) 37.87
Class AAAAA
1. Dunwoody (1-7) 60.84
2. Flowery Branch (7-2) 60.24
3. Clarke Central (3-5) 59.26
4. Gainesville (7-1) 58.67
5. North Atlanta (0-8) 58.27
6. Stephenson (5-2-1) 57.74
7. Winder-Barrow (1-7) 57.64
8. Grovetown (2-6) 57.54
9. Thomas Co. Cent. (8-1) 57.13
10. Lakeside, Atlanta (1-7) 56.78
11. Mays (5-3) 56.77
12. M.L. King (8-0) 56.4
13. Loganville (2-6) 56.35
14. Lakeside, Evans (4-4) 55.69
15. Apalachee (4-4) 55.45
16. Cedar Shoals (3-5) 55.14
17. Northside, W.R. (8-0) 54.72
18. Salem (2-6) 54.56
19. Miller Grove (6-2) 54.17
20. Arabia Mountain (2-6) 54.05
21. Northgate (3-5) 53.98
22. Starr’s Mill (2-6) 53.98
23. Greenbrier (1-7) 53.9
24. Hardaway (2-6) 53.88
25. Bainbridge (5-3) 53.75
26. SW DeKalb (5-3) 53.71
27. Tucker (7-1) 53.43
28. Houston County (3-5) 53.22
29. Evans (3-5) 53.06
30. Sprayberry (2-6) 52.89
31. Harris County (4-4) 52.78
32. Paulding County (1-8) 52.76
33. Warner Robins (7-1) 52.69
34. Kell (7-1) 52.54
35. Heritage, Con. (7-2) 52.42
36. Lithia Springs (1-7) 52.37
37. Woodland, Cart. (2-6) 52.34
38. New Manchester (2-7) 52.07
39. Mundy’s Mill (3-5) 51.23
40. Jones County (5-3) 50.84
41. Villa Rica (4-4) 50.79
42. Groves (0-8) 50.49
43. Hiram (3-5) 50.37
44. Windsor Forest (1-7) 49.96
45. South Paulding (4-4) 49.45
46. Pope (6-2) 49.19
47. Forest Park (0-8) 49.03
48. North Paulding (6-2) 48.95
49. Mt. Zion, Jones. (0-8) 48.84
50. Rome (6-2) 48.54
51. Whitewater (7-1) 48.12
52. East Paulding (8-0) 47.82
53. Allatoona (8-0) 47.72
54. Ware County (7-1) 47.17
55. Northside, Col. (2-5-1) 46.96
56. Glynn Academy (5-3) 46.89
57. Osborne (1-7) 46.73
58. Creekside (6-3) 45.13
59. Bradwell Institute (1-7) 44.65
60. Lee County (6-2) 44.41
61. Ola (3-5) 43.81
62. Jenkins (5-3) 43.75
63. Union Grove (7-1) 43.73
64. Effingham County (5-3) 43.48
65. McIntosh (5-3) 43.44
66. Northview (2-6) 42.3
67. Drew (6-2) 39.85
68. Cambridge (1-7) 39.4
69. North Springs (0-8) 37.89
70. Forsyth Central (2-6) 37.74
71. Sequoyah (5-3) 37.05
72. Riverwood (6-3) 36.33
73. Richmond Hill (6-2) 34.6
74. Creekview (7-1) 33.72
75. Clarkston (4-5) 14.45
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94 comments Add your comment
FridayNightLightsFan
October 30th, 2012
8:15 am
HMMM? If Lovejoy didn’t play Colquitt County they might have been the bottom of the list.
outside looking in
October 30th, 2012
8:23 am
Your right, but being placed in a week conference by the state is not their fault. They are playing the schedule handed to them and they are doing what they have to do. Just like last year when they were doubted. They were going to lose to Kell and beat them. They were going to lose to Ware County, beat them. Gonna lose to Warner Robins, beat them. Lets see what happens this year in the playoffs and then you can run your mouth.
gman57
October 30th, 2012
9:05 am
Coffee will have a strong showing on Friday night. This team will make a bold statement the last 2 games of the regular season. They are 1 click away from bringing it all together. As I see it, Special Teams is the only weakness Coffee has at this moment.
FridayNightLightsFan
October 30th, 2012
9:10 am
But But But. Its just fun playing with Sportsnut.
Rankings are fun.
Blogs are fun.
Games are played.
Dekalb Co Guy
October 30th, 2012
9:43 am
Strength of schedule is a weird thing though, and of course the whole season hasnt been played yet. But Dunwoody has the toughest schedule because they play in 5A Region 6, but SW Dekalb and Tucker are 26th and 27th respectively from the same region. Therefore someone might infer that S.O.S. gives bad teams credit for losing to good teams, but good teams cant get credit.
Also just curious, Dunwoody 1 and SW Dekalb 26, but 6 of their 8 games were against the same opponents. The 2 differences, SW dekalb has yet to play Miller Grove and Dunwoody hasnt played Arabia Mtn. Then they play each other the final week. And in their 1 non region game, Dunwoody played a AAAA team (though unbeaten) and SW DEkalb played a 6a team (winless) . Did those differences cause such a disparity for Dunwoody to be considered having played the toughest 5A schedule while SWD is only 26?
how 'bout
October 30th, 2012
9:50 am
@AJC STAFF
…this is cute …BUT IT’S WEAK LAZY JOURNALISM …INSTEAD REGURGITATING Maxwell strength of schedule rankings YOU GUYS PUT A LITTLE EFFORT INTO THIS …and SAY LET US ALL KNOW HOW EACH REGION SHAKES OUT GOING INTO THIS WEEK OF MEGA MATCH-UPS …BECAUSE AFTER THIS FRIDAY WE WON’T NEED YOU GUYS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT’S A STAKE GOING INTO THE LAST WEEK OF GAMES AS FAR AS THE TEAMS MAKING THE PLAYOFFS AND THEIR SEATINGS… (IMHO)
how 'bout
October 30th, 2012
9:50 am
…but hey what do the rest of you think …squabble ’bout who got the best of the bad luck draw …or talking ’bout what can still be possible …even if not probable…
Heisenberg
October 30th, 2012
9:52 am
Interesting and on par with what many have argued on this blog about regions 1 & 8. I would be curious if this could be broken out into strength of schedule for only games won and strength of schedule for only games lost. That would give an indication of the quality of the wins and a better measure of what to expect when going against better opponents in the playoffs. Naturally these numbers do not change for undefeated or teams without a win.
Not to pick on Colquitt County but since they are the top of the list, they can be the example. Of the 5 wins, 2 came against lower classifications (a 4A & a 5A). The combined record for both of these lower classifications is 16-1. These are good teams in those classifications but not the same as beating a 6A opponent. Of the 3 6A wins, only 1 (Lovejoy at 8-1 against one of the easiest schedules) could be considered a quality win. The other 2 are a combined 5-12 (against a tougher schedule) making the record of wins against 6A competition an even 13-13. Colquitt loses have all been against 6A opponents with a combined record of 21-4 (against middle of the pack strength of schedules). Throwing out the lower classification games, Colquitt is 3-3 against 6A competition. This makes Colquitt a good but not really good or great team.
Considering Colquitt is in a 3 way battle for 2 playoff spots and will go on the road should they get in probably against either McEachern or Marietta from region 4, I would expect they would play a close competitive game but come up short.
Jefferson
October 30th, 2012
9:58 am
When you are good, your schedule seems weak.
When you are bad, its you against the world.
. RealisticFan
October 30th, 2012
10:36 am
@FNL
Reg5AAAAA ( EP, Allatoona, Rome, NP) of which toughest schedule is #48
vs first round opponents
Reg8AAAAA (Gainsville, FB, Heritage-Conyers, CC), of which 3 are ranked in the top 4
One paper Reg8 appears much more battle tested. Reg5 needs to be ready for a fight.
Camden74
October 30th, 2012
10:59 am
All I can do is sit back and smile about this subject………
eaglenationrising
October 30th, 2012
11:13 am
This is laughable!
For years, we have heard senseless posters in the overhyped Region 1 complain about programs like Camden County having a weak schedule. What I know is this. Northside (Warner Robins) last played in the largest classification State Championship in our last season in the largest classification in 2009. That Northside team beat three different teams that had been ranked nationally in the top 10 in AMERICA!
We ended the senseless National Championship whispers coming out of Valdosta by beating Lownes County (ranked third in the nation). We ended the season of Peachtree Ridge, ranked as high as eighth in the nation. We beat undefeated Newnan at Newnan with Alec Ogletree, ranked high nationally.
We then faced Camden County, who had “supposedly” played a WEAK schedule. The result was one of the most brutal beatings that our beloved Eagles have had in decades. This is simply another attempt for the AJC to hype coaches and programs that the AJC adores, errrr Colquitt County. This is additional propoganda!
HaveBinocularsWillTravel
October 30th, 2012
11:17 am
Heisenberg— As region 1-AAAAAA’s 3rd OR 4th place team, Colquitt will travel to and demolish either oMACg’s McEachern Redskins or Marietta. Either one or both if they combined’em! Trouble is, Colquitt may not even make the playoffs.
Oh, and YES, Payne WILL be in the stadium Nov. 9th with binoculars. Colquitt Fan and WildHawg2012, you can bet on it!
AVikingFan
October 30th, 2012
11:29 am
eaglenationrising — refresh your memory or laptop! Not a single region 1 fan EVER suggested Camden was in a weak region or that they should come over and join us! Their old region was stronger than Cherokee’s, or West Forsyth’s, etc. That was all coming from the Greater Atlanta jabber mouths, and you know it. Also yes, NSWR did defeat us in 2009, but what happened in 2008? Did we not also do the same to your Eagles who thought they were world beaters? Lowndes defeated NSWR 24-7!!! And what did we do to ya’ll in the “Flop of All Time” games in the 99 semi’s?
31-28!!!! Or have you forgotten.
You know, you’re kinda weird. All Northside fans and booster but you say they wish Northside was still in our region where there is some “competition.” Even the much respected reeze says so! Do you live in a vacuum? You should lay off the Union Grove, Stephenson and Newnan Koolaid!
eaglenationrising
October 30th, 2012
11:35 am
First, who is Maxwell? Where has he been all of these years. What difference does strength of schedule have to do when you have a playoff system? There is no data that can create a credible correlation between strength of schedule and hoisting a State Championship. There is no correlation whatsoever.
Valdosta is America’s winningest program. However, they are along the same level of a Brooks County, perhaps St. Pius X, today. Before one person from Colquitt County speaks about State Championship game appearances, tell the board how many seasons have the Packers lost 5 or more games. You can not lose 4+ games every 3 seasons and call yourself a top program in Georgia. There is clearly a connection between the AJC and Colquitt County’s mediocre program. Look at the top programs year in and year out in Georgia (Camden County, Northside-Warner Robins, Tucker, Marist, Buford, etc.). They may lose 10 games in a decade. The AJC should be ashamed and STOP this propoganda exercise. When you have 2500-3000 students and lose to AA schools, you are not what you think you are. When you lose to one Middle Georgia school 17 out of 18 games, you are not what you think you are.
Camden County (the program maligned for playing a weak schedule in their own geography) is going to show all of Region 1 what they are…just like Northside (Warner Robins) did. SOS. What a joke! Practically every high school program plays a schedule dictated by geography. This is high school sports, not the SEC.
I wish all the posters could actually see how those South Georgia fanbases turn on their own kids and coaches once the scoreboard starts looking a little negative. If you saw the Falcons game this past weekend and watched those gutless Philly fans, that is your typical South Georgia fanbase. In one word, “frontrunners.” Coffee, Colquitt County, Valdosta and Thomas County Central posters, deny that Northside did not clear out each of those stadiums by the middle of the third quarter with fans booing their own kids and coaches. Deny it! You can not.
eaglenationrising
October 30th, 2012
11:43 am
@ AVikingFan: I personally consider Lowndes County to have a “special” fanbase. However, even you have to admit that Colquitt County and information surrounding that program has been force fed down our throats for the past few seasons. I could get it if they actually won something. However, they have not.
Where was the strength of schedule meter when programs like Lowndes County and Northside-Warner Robins (who could have been top 5 program) could not even make the playoffs back when only one Region representative made the playoffs.
I would make the point about strength of schedule best by rehashing the negative memory of Camden County undressing my Eagles in the middle of the Georgia Dome in 2009. People, especially Region 1 (South Georgia) and these Gwinnett County regions (Region 7 &
openly complained on this board (we were both here) about Camden County’s “weak scheduling.” I made the point back then and I will make the point again. A program can not change their geography.
People often say that Northside football should play in AAAAAA when our real enrollment is that of a AAAAA school and practically every school in our own geography (Warner Robins, Houston County and Jones County) are AAAAA schools. There are more sports and GHSA activities than just football.
It did not make logical sense for Camden County. They ran up the score on a GREAT Northside team that had a SUPERIOR strength of schedule. It did not matter. They were the better…heck, much better…team on that night (probably others too). This is gross AJC propoganda. This is GHSFDaily’s justification for their love affair with Colquitt County HS, a program that is (at best) above average but FAR from elite.
sportsnut
October 30th, 2012
11:44 am
Same as last season. Region 4 AAAA was also the weakest in the state. This was without a doubt true. Problem was though, when it boiled down a little, say the final eight(8), two of those remained. Funny how things work ! Yes, that sorry region produced a participant for the Championship game and it was no fluke. That school earned what they got. Through all the talk that took place about them not belonging, just as it is now, they achieved. There is no reason to think they can not get there again. The reason given is just crazy. ” It is 6A “. THATS THE REASON ? Get serious! Many will have you think there is some validity to this Idea. Those with a little common sense and that includes the ability to be impartial will see, given all the intangibles and variables involved, they would come to the conclussion that it is possible for them to compete and they have just as much a chance as anyone else. The road ahead will be just as the road of the past. On it, we will encounter many who are on the same quest as we are. We will have to deal with each obstacle as it presents itself. That is how it was done and nothing will change.
eaglenationrising
October 30th, 2012
11:51 am
@ AVikingFan: I wish that a Camden County poster was on this page, right now. It is disingenuous to claim that “no one” from our region (we were in the same region at the time battling for the Region title). There was EXTENDED conversations about Camden County’s weak schedule. Because you did not say it, does not mean that people from the area did not. Going on record and saying that “no one” from region 1 said that is a HUGE statement that you can not back up. I know a Northside poster and two Warner Robins poster along with many others that whispered and posted that Camden County should not play those AAA Savannah schools (code for weak schedule). It was not you and many Lowndes posters because Camden had kicked you around. It stopped from Northside and Warner Robins folks after Camden kicked us around in 2009.
The folks in Gwinnett have regularly had chatter for years about Camden County’s weak “Savannah” schedule. It happened. Of course, Camden County has slowly stopped the chatter across the state by cracking teams from across the state and hoisting State Championships. Titles have a way of ending the talk.
AVikingFan
October 30th, 2012
11:53 am
eaglenationrising – I was just messing with you old friend. I ALWAYS enjoy your posts. They are as folks in and around Fargo, GA say “sensical.” As a former school board member, I know about the trouble with all those “other sports” having to travel long distances on school nights. NSWR is doing the correct thing. Good luck this year in AAAAA!
AVikingFan
October 30th, 2012
11:56 am
@ENR My Vikings have met Camden in the semi’s twice and Camden has yet to score a single point. The combined score is Lowndes 40, Camden 0. That’s not “kicking us around.” Just saying…..
how 'bout
October 30th, 2012
12:04 pm
@AVikingFan …and let’s not forget all the times Camden County has sent you home early…
Tipp Smooth
October 30th, 2012
12:05 pm
@Eaglenationrising, you are 100% correct, for years
all you heard was Camden playing in a weak region or
Savannah schools, whenever they played out of region
the still won, go ask the Brookwoods, Parkviews, Peachtree
Ridges, Lowndes, Valdosta, First Coast Jacksonville, Hoover
Alabama, Aiken South Carolina, just to name a few, now that
Camden is doing the darn thang in Region 1 the talk has soften
some what, but there is still whispering going on, winning will
stop the whispering..
eaglenationrising
October 30th, 2012
12:06 pm
Tucker is another example of a program that has supposedly had “weak” scheduling in the past. They have one two State Championships in 3 seasons (although we all know that the last one was gift wrapped by a certain Middle Georgia program).
how 'bout
October 30th, 2012
12:07 pm
…Friday night should be fun …fans …boosters …and especially the coaches and players
…here’s to a another classic and all the kids making it through without injury…
Heisenberg
October 30th, 2012
12:07 pm
HaveBinocularsWillTravel, I have no ill will towards Colquitt. Just an impartial analysis based on the subject matter of this thread. I used a similar technique to project Milton to defeat Walton this past week and…………………………wait! What?
eaglenationrising
October 30th, 2012
12:23 pm
@AVikingFan: FYI: Camden County sent us home early one year. That was our lesson in losing one game in Region 1. We got to travel to Florida, errr Kingsland, in the 2nd round with what I know what the 3rd of 4th best team in the state that season. Of course, that little Greg Reid created some challenges.
If you look at the history of Northside (Warner Robins) and Camden County, we only have one pre-State Championship loss to Camden County. At the end of the day, I believe those folks down there have done a great job building their program. I have even more respect for them in seeing how their former top assistant made Tucker a player (DeKalb County sports is not easy…at all).
eaglenationrising
October 30th, 2012
12:30 pm
Maxwell has been slowly forced down our throats. High school football in Georgia is about local rivalries with then morph into state rivalries in the hunt for a trip to the Georgia Dome. As a subscriber to the AJC and regular on AJC.com…and as a tremendous fan of high school sports in Georgia, I believe that people should speak out against these number being made a part of the conversation by the AJC.
As many of you know, I was a college basketball coach for almost a decade. I recruited players in South Florida, were 15 year old…16 year old and 17 year old kids were intimidated and physically assaulted due to underground gambling in high school sports. This is real and the AJC making this Maxwell data a part of the conversation is bigger than most of us reading game spreads and SOS data.
For a matter of fact, I am going to write the editor of the AJC. This is complete chaos. Take a look at the past decade in the largest classification. The team that won the most State Championship (Camden County) supposedly had the weakest schedule. High school football is local. When we have big games like Northside (Warner Robins) vs. Warner Robins and MLK vs. Tucker, does anyone think the kids are evaluating their opponents’ SOS? It is useless. The AJC and GHSF Daily are forcing this Maxwell crap into the high school conversation. IT SHOULD STOP!
Todd Holcomb
October 30th, 2012
12:34 pm
Dekalb Co Guy – The reason that Dunwoody’s schedule is harder than Tucker’s (when they are playing basically the same teams) is that Dunwoody has to play Tucker, and Tucker doesn’t.
eaglenationrising
October 30th, 2012
12:35 pm
That previous post is full of typos. My point is that spreads (from Maxwell) and SOS of schedule data (also from Maxwell) is generally used in gambling. I love casinos, like the outdoor poker room in Hollywood at the Hard Rock, Beau Rivage in Biloxi or the Hard Rock in Tampa. However, I pray that I NEVER see my high school (Northside) or any other high school in some form of gambling. Todd or Chip need to articulate to us how spread and SOS data is valuable for anyone that is not gambling. If Todd or Chip doubt what I am saying, I will happily accompany you guys to a football or basketball game at Miami Northwestern HS or Ft. Lauderdale Dillard HS or many others across Dade, Broward & Palm Beach counties. This is unproductive. You guys should call Colquitt County and tell him that the state of high school football in Georgia trumps an insecure coach feeling better about his multi-loss regular season!
Todd Holcomb
October 30th, 2012
12:37 pm
”First, who is Maxwell? Where has he been all of these years. What difference does strength of schedule have to do when you have a playoff system?”
If you put it that way, then what difference does anything make? Don’t talk about history. Don’t talk about players having great seasons. Don’t talk about big games that are coming up. Don’t talk about rankings. None of it matters since we have a playoff system. The reason we write about strength of schedule or most anything else is that people find it interesting. Nobody says that it matters.
As for Maxwell:
The ratings are compiled by Loren Maxwell, who has been involved with sports ratings since 1986. Maxwell is an avid sports historian and the founder of the Georgia High School Football Historians Association. Currently, he is an active duty officer in the Air Force as an instructor at the Air Force Institute of Technology.
eaglenationrising
October 30th, 2012
12:38 pm
Todd is here! Why Todd? Seriously, help us out here. Why is the Maxwell data (spreads, SOS) appropriate to the conversation with a 32 team playoff system?
Jefferson
October 30th, 2012
12:42 pm
why don’t you just stop eagle, the world according to you is not the world. Go Demons.
eaglenationrising
October 30th, 2012
12:49 pm
LOL, Jefferson. Is your brilliant coach going to open the Big Game with silly trick plays again this year? We were a little worried that you guys were going to fire Brian Way (a real class guy) after only winning 5 games in two years.
Jefferson, I remember when Warner Robins HS used to really care about football. Now, you boys are just happy to be competitive against us and finish in the top ten. We have completely dismasculated the Demon program in 15 short years. Decades of excellence has been replaced with simply accepting getting violated by Northside annually. I love it!
Demon fans had put up a white flag in the first quarter last year (although, your kids kept fighting as stands emptied by halftime).
Will Demon fans make it to the 2nd quarter before hoisting a white flag this season? McConnell-Talbert Stadium is OUR LAND!
CoffeeC100
October 30th, 2012
12:55 pm
All of this does not matter. As far as region one goes we find out the answer to all the questions this weekend. I’ll be in Moultrie.
Cof Coffee!!
CoffeeC100
October 30th, 2012
12:56 pm
Please don’t cough Coffee. Instead…
Go Coffee!!
Fred
October 30th, 2012
12:56 pm
@eaglenationrising – To answer your first question, Loren Maxwell is a numbers guy that looks a the entire state, not just a single region/classification. I think he is also a part of the force behind the historians site so many of us use to back up (or not) our outrageous clams.
As to your questions/issues with the spread/point predictions, I for one find them very interesting and helpful as I look at other programs. I don’t have a gambling gene in my body and these projections don’t push me to develop one.
It seems that I vaguely remember you crowing some about rankings and ratings when NS is on top though. Maybe not his year but in previous years. As Todd points out, when you are one of the top programs, your SOS will not be as high because you don’t play yourself.
Double Standard
October 30th, 2012
1:00 pm
Lovejoy should be well rested and fresh come playoff time. Just like they were last year. Add home field advantage and the ‘home cooking” they get from the refs and they should be back in the dome again this year.
eaglenationrising
October 30th, 2012
1:07 pm
ENR & Jefferson (along with every Northside Eagle fan across the globe) would like to announce our unyielding support for Warner Robins head football coach Bryan Way! We officially endorse a lifetime contract for the Demon head football coach who is like a gift that just keeps on giving.
While Georgia High School Hall of Fame and former Warner Robins head coach Robert Davis went 21-7 as the head coach at Warner Robins against Northside (Warner Robins) while winning 2 National Championships and 3 State Championships. The great Bryan Way has hoisted one State Championship in 2004 for the Demons has amassed a record of 2-6 in the Big Game (City Championship).
Like Jefferson, I love this guy Coach Way. He has done so much for Northside Eagle football, I mean Warner Robins Demon football. He has really done great work for that program.
This is not the world according to ENR. This is the world, Jefferson. Our Eagles are going to confirm what you know and believe about the world on Friday night in OUR STADIUM (McConnell-Talbert Stadium) on OUR LAND. We will “let” the Demons play Lakeside (Evans) there next Friday after we make another example out of the Demon program. 
how 'bout
October 30th, 2012
1:13 pm
Todd Holcomb – why are we discussing Maxwell SOS instead of…
…how ’bout a 5-3 Colquitt controls its own playoff destiny and could finish as high as #2 by winning out or on the outside looking by losing their last two or…
…how ’bout in reg1 Grayson with its national rankings and Parkview’s upset loss, Grayson still needs help to win their region or…
…how ’bout that due to pairing how some region champs might find themselves facing a tougher road to the dome than the 2nd or 3rd seeds from their regions or
…who needs to do what these last 2 weeks or almost anything other than this…
eaglenationrising
October 30th, 2012
1:16 pm
@ Fred: I do not believe that the gambling issue would be a part of practically any person that posts regularly. Surely, I am not the only person that sees that if a major publication posts spreads (that is exactly what they are) on one of the largest publications in the entire nation that there are underground elements that will use those numbers. Should this happen, as it happens in many major cities (Miami, New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, Los Angeles, etc.) there is the real possibility that this becomes a part of Georgia high schools in places like Atlanta and potentially other places.
We are being a little naive to assume that spreads are posted in the paper and no one is gambling. These numbers have absolutely nothing to do with anything. Loren Maxwell is probably a good man. However, projected spreads is a pretty complex deal that includes a myriad of factors that no one can have. How many of these AJC guys do you believe actually see the majority of high school football games? This is a HUGE state and the AJC & GHSF Daily staff is not nearly big enough to cover the 9th largest state in the nation.
Spreads lead to gambling. The strength of schedule question should be addressed. What is the point of a strength of schedule with a 32 team playoff system? Teams with losing records or 0.500 records reach the state playoffs. Some of them (i.e. Colquitt County) reach the state championship with a 0.500 regular season record.
Practically every regular poster on this site is aware of the multi-year conversation about the SOS of Camden County HS. I point to 2009 when Camden County destroyed my beloved Eagles of Northside (Warner Robins) who beat a series of top nationally ranked programs including Miami Booker T. Washington, Lowndes County, Peachtree Ridge (in overtime) and Newnan. Camden County played no one and beat us like a drum. There are a myriad of other examples. High school football in Georgia proves that SOS means nothing. Again, what’s the point with such a large playoff system?
Mike Hunt
October 30th, 2012
1:18 pm
Cool how the number 1 high school in a region has it’s stregnth of schedule rated below the schools that they beat. Hmm . . . .
VikingTillEye
October 30th, 2012
1:19 pm
Camden will get beat by 3 touchdowns. You heard it here first. Do they have a better running game than us? NO. Do they have a better defense than us? NO. There’s no reason they should win this game in the Concrete Palace
Northside Dawg
October 30th, 2012
1:19 pm
@ENR: I like your confidence, but I hope we’re not giving Warner Robins “blackboard material”.
Fred
October 30th, 2012
1:21 pm
@how ’bout – Actually we are region 8 but you knew that.
It has certainly been a topsy turvey year for region 8 for sure! One loss has hurt us in many ways. Parkview has won against all the right teams to put themselves in control of the region. Unless they lose again, the tie breakers come into effect and they win in the head to head competition – assuming we win out. I kind of thought it might come down to the lat week in region 8 to decide the region but this wasn’t the way I thought it would play out!
eaglenationrising
October 30th, 2012
1:25 pm
@ Fred: I believe with all of my heart that high school football is local. If it creates what is perceived as a difficult schedule, so be it. If it does not, who cares because Georgia has such a large playoff system. If you go back, I have and would have continued to defend Camden County playing teams in their area.
I have said that it makes no logical sense to try to create super regions as many AJC writers and posters have pushed for. There was a push for Northside (Warner Robins), Warner Robins and Camden County to all play in Region 1. I said it then and would say it now that is make no sense to force high school kids (some as young as 14 years old) to get on a bus and ride 3-4 hours for the sake of playing in a “competitive” region. These are kids. Anyone on this board knows that I hated Northside (Warner Robins), Houston County and Warner Robins playing in Region 1.
Region 1 did not bring larger crowds for home games at Northside, with the exception of Lowndes County, because most of Region 1 assumed that they were going to get violated (which they did). When Northside plays local Middle Georgia teams like Peach County, Baldwin, Westside (Macon), etc. we get much larger crowd for all local sports and activities. These crowds create revenue which create additional opportunities for kids. I have said this for years…not to mention the gas costs for long trips. There are more sports and activities in GHSA than Friday night football games. Most sports are played on school nights. I never supported Northside’s best SOS opportunities because I know for a fact that our athletic programs lost tons of money. It is not worth it. High school sports is local!
Fred
October 30th, 2012
1:26 pm
@Mike Hunt – If you are on top, you don’t get the opportunity to play the top rated team. Sometimes I think we all get confused about the differences between ratings, rankings and standings. In GA, the only one that counts is standings. The others make for good discussion and when you throw strength of schedule in it just adds fuel to the fire.
Heisenberg
October 30th, 2012
1:27 pm
@eaglenationrising, how much did you lose?
eaglenationrising
October 30th, 2012
1:29 pm
@ Northside Dawg: Demon players are not reading the AJC. I guarantee it! Most of Bryan Way’s kids would struggle finding the Macon Telegraph page. These Demons have no self confidence. I have returned to Letterwinner events back home. These Eagles work so hard and have so much discipline and confidence. It is honestly different than the early 1990s when I was in school.
It is not bulletin board material for a Demon football player that everyone thinks that they are going to get the score run up on them. They know it…in the depths of their soul.
Fred
October 30th, 2012
1:33 pm
@eaglenationrising – I think I remember that you are a numbers guy but I could be wrong. If you are, you should appreciate his methods. Loren doesn’t attempt watch all of the games. He takes all the game results as reported, plugs them in and lets his algorithm crunch away. For him it is data entry only at this point. I would imagine that if he sees a consistent issue he will tweak the formula some but I don’t pretend to speak for him (although I have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express!
) You and others may have issues with his reasoning but he is not biased as best as I can tell. It is very interesting to me to look at his projections and match them up against reality. Often they are real close but sometimes it is way off as he does not take into account injuries, rivalries, weather or anything other than the past scores.
eaglenationrising
October 30th, 2012
1:35 pm
@ Heisenberg: When we first move to Region 1, we (Booster Club) had to raise tens of thousands of additional funds that had never been needed before. It was not an issue of football. It was an issue of boy’s & girl’s basketball, baseball, softball, One Act, State Literary, Forensic (Debate), boy’s & girl’s golf & tennis. There were sports that needed money to travel that had not even taken trips in the past. Now, they were going on 3 hour trips…many in the middle of the week.
A baseball player with 5 out of 8 of his Region opponents 3-4 hours away would have to leave school (missed class time), play a game and return to Northside at 1 or 2 in the morning. This story is not what should be “normal” operating practice for the sake of saying that Northside (Warner Robins), Lowndes County, Valdosta, Warner Robins, Tift County, Colquitt County and Camden County all play in the same region in football. What do you think any of those programs mean in a conversation about top baseball programs…top basketball programs (boy’s or girl’s)…tennis…etc? The super-regions are about football. There is more to GHSA sports and activities than football, which is rarely played on a school night.
Fred
October 30th, 2012
1:39 pm
@eaglenationrising – I do agree with you on the super region thing. Local rivalries are the best. I fully understand the issues with geography the southern part of the state faces. Believe it or not (and I think you will as you live in Atlanta) some of the Atlanta area regions face some nasty travel times not due to mileage but due to traffic.
Double Standard
October 30th, 2012
1:43 pm
@ENR…….At the end of the day, High School Football is still a game played by kids. IMO the lessons learned are more important than the wins and the losses. I am a NS grad and my daughter graduated from HOCO . My son will finish at WR.( rezoned twice ) The Dixie Demons have finally gelled as a team . Our Eagles peaked three games ago and are losing some of their power. As painful as this is, I am predicting a Dixie Demon win. They are morphing into the little train that could and it may prove hard to derail them.
eaglenationrising
October 30th, 2012
1:43 pm
@ Fred: I do have a finance degree and an economics MBA. I love numbers. Those numbers are about wins and losses. Those are not subjective. When Northside (Warner Robins) lost to Tucker in the semifinals, someone could have written a book as to how Northisde controlled the game and lost on a goal line fumble which led to a 103 yard fumble return.
However, the tangible number was that Tucker had more points and won the game in route to their second State Championship. I like real numbers…not subjective speculation. I do not like speculation in the financial markets. I, especially, hate subjective numbers for high school CHILDREN.
Believe what you may. The overwhelming majority of the AJC staff sees games in the metro Atlanta area. To accurate speculate in a “Sports Book” scenario, you have to see the teams that you are speculating. Do you really believe that the AJC sees 15% of the teams that play football in this HUGE state???? Do you know how big a staff would have to be to cover the entire Peach State? There are twice as many high school football teams in Georgia than all of college football (FCS, FBS, D2). It is completely subjective based on (in many cases) no data.
Look Fred, if you believe that one of America’s largest news publications inputting spreads for children sports is not a big deal, you are entitled to that opinion. In a state that is so sensitive that adults can not legally gamble, I find it laughable that the AJC would publish and print this chaos. What do you think a spread means to the kids that will play their hearts out in the big MLK vs. Tucker game? It means nothing. What will a SOS from Maxwell mean when the state playoffs start. I have played in a state playoff game. I have played against nationally ranked football and basketball teams. It means nothing to a kid. ABSOLUTELY nothing.
eaglenationrising
October 30th, 2012
1:45 pm
@ Double Standard: Time will tell. Bryan Way is good for an extra 10 points for Northside. That is a fact. Do you remember how the game opened last year. That guy should join the circus!
Keep up hope that Northside has peeked. FYI: Kinsler has NEVER lost a regular season football game as head coach. NEVER. Good luck with that coming to an end. 
eaglenationrising
October 30th, 2012
1:46 pm
@ Fred: My wife and I lived in Midtown (we just move to Alpharetta) when we went to the Northside game at Flowery Branch. We had to leave almost two hours early due to traffic.
Fred
October 30th, 2012
3:13 pm
@eaglenationrising – Traffic is a wonderful thing, isn’t it?
I think our difference is that this is not a sports book as my exceeding little knowledge of gambling makes me think of it. ALL this is and ALL it is purported to be is a computer analysis based solely on the scores of the games. A sports book on the other hand, I *think* has real people behind it trying to take into account all of the readily available (and some not so readily available!) knowledge about the teams involved. A sports book would consider rivalries, injuries to players, effects of weather on a certain team’s normal game plans, etc.
Again, I’m not a gambler and really don’t understand all the stuff about taking points and covering the line and everything else that happens. Heck, I don’t even participate in the March Madness pools! I can most definitely agree that putting high schools kids into situations where they are the focus of gambling is a very bad thing. I just don’t see this as doing that. I really think you are possibly reading too much into this.
sportsnut
October 30th, 2012
3:27 pm
Where is Your Highness74 ? EagleNationRising is looking for him. He ius always here. Did the arrival of ENR scare him off ?
cat doc
October 30th, 2012
3:28 pm
Attetion AJC – Rush Propst is a cheater,bum,and alot of other things . Get off the band wagon. I wouldn’t want my kids around him and you all think he is something. .
Camden74
October 30th, 2012
3:29 pm
This is a lot of conversation about a subject that has no (so far) effect on Georgia HS Football.
ENR…..I don’t always agree with your post, but I love the way your post gets everyone’s blood pressure up, It’s great!
By the way, there are those who still feel Camden has a weak schedule. They even go as far as saying that if it were not for Camden’s weak past schedules, they would not have won any State Titles………And you ALL know who you are!
Tipp Smooth
October 30th, 2012
3:38 pm
@74, talked to Leroy Scott, and coach Simpson Saturday
at gala on the north end during the Fla., Ga. game, they both
were in good spirits, especially after a Ga. win. Go Camden
Loren Maxwell
October 30th, 2012
3:47 pm
Wow . . . fascinating blog today
I would guess a full third of the postings are by readers who seem to be upset this type of analysis is performed and published, but there seems to be no room in their minds for the other readers who enjoy and appreciate it. Fred is just one example (thanks Fred!) who is indirectly under attack because he enjoys a different perspective than just what the standings can provide.
Maybe in light of my vested interest my question can be easily dismissed, but why shouldn’t those who want to look at the ratings be able to? Conversely, if you are a reader who finds the ratings, SOS, predicted margins, etc., upsetting, why not simply ignore them?
Also, there seems to be a belief that presenting a strength of schedule ratings is implying teams in weak regions are not competitive. I’ve not read where anyone has put forth that idea. Some regions are both weak overall and have great teams. There’s no contradiction and no insult to say a region with weak teams is a weak region. Boise State and Texas Christian recently fielded strong teams while playing in a weak conference for several years at the college level and, as has been pointed out, Camden County did it as well.
Finally, and this should go without saying, the predicted margins (not spreads) are in no way provided or even intended to support gambling. With the exception that they are grounded in an objective analysis of scores and schedules, they are absolutely no different than any number of predicted scores or margins posted by the AJC writers or the many readers who throw out similar predictions in the blogs.
Camden74
October 30th, 2012
4:31 pm
Tipp Smooth…..It’s nice to hear that Leroy and Coach Simpson are doing well. My sister saw Coach Simpson last week as well. She relayed a message to me, I gotta get down there!
WILDHAWG2012
October 30th, 2012
5:21 pm
All the little hate towards Colquitt is good.But we will be just fine and we are still just as dangerous as ever.The problem is that we are more dangerous to ourselves than any team is.Like i said once we learn to get out of our own way then look out,but trust me we fear no one. Right now up next is Coffee Co.We are a threat no matter what seed we are.Home field advantage is only good for the first round cause by the second round really good teams are left and good teams can win anywhere with good coaching. I know what people are going to say,(first u have to make the playoffs) but to me that won’t be a problem. Lets Go Pack!!!
RAIDER FAN
October 30th, 2012
7:36 pm
@Todd H. Given that East Paulding has better all around stats than Allatoona why do you think this list has E.P. with the tougher schedule? Shouldn’t that be the other way around or am I missing something that makes the difference? As you would say Allatoona has to play the Raiders and the Raiders don’t.
Loren Maxwell
October 30th, 2012
8:55 pm
@RAIDER FAN: “why do you think this list has E.P. with the tougher schedule?”
Chip Saye had the exact same question when I sent in the ratings this week.
Although they play the exact same teams, the difference is the location of the games. Both play five home games and five away games, but each opponent has an individual home advantage, so that accounts for the difference.
The difference in their schedule strength is only 1/10th of a point, so with the home advantages being updated each week it’s entirely possible for the schedule strengths to swap rankings.
AVikingFan
October 30th, 2012
9:11 pm
Loren Maxwell and Todd Holcomgb (and Chip Saye) KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. MOST OF US APPRECIATE IT!
AVikingFan
October 30th, 2012
9:12 pm
HOLCOMB
Loren Maxwell
October 30th, 2012
10:57 pm
@AVikingFan: “KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.”
Thanks for the support!
WildcatManiac
October 30th, 2012
11:23 pm
I would say that thus far Camden is feeling pretty good about being in region 1. And @ vikingtilleye; I would like to point out that our running game is all that and more. Of course when you average pretty close to 300 yards a game rushing then maybe you would call that mediocre. I do like to look at similar opponents and three stand out like a sore thumb. #1 Camden 43 – Valdosta 6 in Valdosta (especially liked the way our defense let them run up and down the field, oh wait, they crossed the 50 like three times). On the flip side Lowndes 17 – Valdosta 14 (and lowness pulled that one out by the seat of their pants). #2 Camden 39 – Coffee 12 while on the other hand Lowndes 31 – Coffee 29 and again with a prayer at the end. They both beat the tar out of Brunswick but if I am not mistaken Brunswick had about 350 yards rushing and over a hundred passing and rang up right around 500 yards total on Lowndes while last Friday, Camden held them to right around 150 yards total. So I guess the Camden defense just bows down to Lowndes. That was sarcasm by the way. I am not going to guarantee a win against Lowndes but I will say that if I was in charge of laying down odds I would not bet against Camden. Should be a good one and I am looking forward to trying to stay warm and watching every minute of it.
As far as the strength of schedule argument. I would like to reiterate that with 32 teams to include 4 from each region you should be getting a fair share of the better teams. Are some teams left out that could probably compete? Well absolutely but to try to do it any different would create a lot more arguments. For the most part I believe that the regions are well represented. And to the phooey about Camden’s weak schedule; I guess three titles and perennial play deep into the postures every year against the best of the rest in the state should speak for itself. They deserved to be there.
WildcatManiac
October 30th, 2012
11:36 pm
I hate auto correct. “lowness” should read Lowndes… And “postures” should read playoffs.
RAIDER FAN
October 31st, 2012
6:39 am
Thanks Loren. I figured there might be more to it.
VikingTillEye
October 31st, 2012
8:13 am
@WildcatManiac see that’s where people always get it incorrect. To compare offenses is of no use because we’re not pitting Lowndes offense against Camden’s offense or pitting Lowndes defense against Camden’s defense. The question is will Camden’s defense be able to stop Lowndes offense and will Camden’s offense be able to move the ball against Lowndes defense. You can’t even compare Brunswick’s offense to Camden’s because they run different styles. The Lowndes defense is much more familiar with what Camden runs and will be able to stop their offense. Camden won’t be able to move the ball and Lowndes will run up and down the field on Camden because they’re stronger and faster
VikingTillEye
October 31st, 2012
8:17 am
And it’s crazy to compare common opponents. Valdosta dominated Colquitt and Lowndes almost lost to Colquitt but Lowndes beat Valdosta. That doesn’t make sense in theory but it happened. I don’t know why people do that.
AVikingFan
October 31st, 2012
8:54 am
eaglenationrising
October 30th, 2012
1:07 pm
ENR & Jefferson (along with every Northside Eagle fan across the globe) would like to announce our unyielding support for Warner Robins head football coach Bryan Way! We officially endorse a lifetime contract for the Demon head football coach who is like a gift that just keeps on giving.
While Georgia High School Hall of Fame and former Warner Robins head coach Robert Davis went 21-7 as the head coach at Warner Robins against Northside (Warner Robins) while winning 2 National Championships and 3 State Championships. The great Bryan Way has hoisted one State Championship in 2004 for the Demons has amassed a record of 2-6 in the Big Game (City Championship).
H-mmmm let’s see if I’ve got this correct. “the great Brian Way has only one state championship.” How many does Northside Warner Robins have in their entire history? TWO!!!!!!
Just saying!
AVikingFan
October 31st, 2012
9:06 am
@Wildcat Maniac — You have incorrect stats. First of all, it has been several weeks since Lowndes hosted Brunswick. Secondly, Lowndes gave up 150 yards rushing and only 55 yards passing (Brunswick completed 6 of 17 passing attempts)
Lowndes on the other hand had 480 yards of offense against Brunswick.
To compare games and opponents one must also consider at what point in the games did the winning team put in their B Teamers and 9th graders. Then you also have to compare those to whatever team you are comparing them to. It goes on and on. See how silly your argument is now?
VikingTillEye
October 31st, 2012
10:18 am
@AVikingFan it’s also dumb because it doesn’t factor in home field advantage at all.
WildcatManiac
October 31st, 2012
11:31 am
I will post again Friday night regardless of the outcome. I will also say that your argument about not comparing common opponents is ludicrous. If you consider that you dominate a team because you won 17-14 then you are drinking the kool-aid. Making the statement that Lowndes is bigger and stronger is also pretty weak and not correct. Camden has 72 seniors and juniors that have been in the wing-T system since they were 6. If you think that our boys cannot play against that offense then again I will say that you need to put the cup down. I expect a good game that should have some breakout plays that decide it along the way. Hopefully those are on the Camden side buy I would not be surprised to see a few on the Lowndes side as well. You all seem to have a knack for pulling rabbits out of a hat.
As far as stats. Lowndes stats as follows per game: pass – 63.4yds, rush – 270.3yds, 37points scored with 9.5points allowed. Looking at the Camden stats and taking into account that they have played similar opponents I still do not see how you are making your prediction that Lowndes will win by 3 touchdowns. If they do then my hats off to you but I am firmly of the opinion that it will either be close or it will be Camden winning by two or more touchdowns. I say that because it seems to me that we are just as fast and just as strong and the Camden players want the region and the perfect season just as bad. IMHO, Lowndes needs to hope for a close game.
Camden as follows per game: pass – 118.8yds, rush – 301.5yds, 46.1points
sportsnut
October 31st, 2012
11:32 am
So, other than Lowndes, Camden has the easiest schedule in Region 1. Imagine that.
WildcatManiac
October 31st, 2012
11:39 am
And in every Camden win the fourth quarter and in most cases at least half of the third quarter has been played by our third and fourth string offenses and defenses. That of course is every game thus far. So if you want to say that that is a reason that the Lowndes stats are lower than they should be I would come back with the FACT that the Camden starters have been on the field much less time than the Lowndes starters have been on the field.
sportsnut
October 31st, 2012
11:55 am
Now maybe you all understand why Lowndes is ranked so high.
LittleVike
October 31st, 2012
3:48 pm
I don’t understand the SOS rankings. How does one determine that a team being faced in one region is stronger or as strong as one being played in another region when they have absolutely no common opponents or have not played each other? Colquitt County’s SOS for instance is based on a schedule comprised of NG, Lowndes, Camden etc but Dacula is very close behind with opponents like Grayson SG and Collins Hill. But why is Dacula ranked 3? Why not 30? Brunswick plays the same opponents that Colquitt does with a few exceptions. And these exceptions are teams that may be tougher than the ones Dacula faces. But who knows? They haven’t played each other. Is this based on rankings which are also very flawed or historical data (e.g. number of wins per season, number of times in the playoffs)
VikingTillEye
October 31st, 2012
3:53 pm
@WildcatManiac Why is not comparing common opponents crazy? I just provided an example in which it doesn’t make any sense. The so called logic of comparing common opponents is flawed especially in Region 1. Valdosta DID dominate Colquitt and lost to us on a last minute field goal. Stats will back that up
Camden74
October 31st, 2012
4:01 pm
sportsnut….Which team did your beloved Lovejoy lose to? I wonder why?
VikingTillEye……Will we hear from you after Friday night?
VikingTillEye
October 31st, 2012
4:23 pm
@Camden74 I’ll be in here on Saturday morning screaming I told you so
how 'bout
October 31st, 2012
5:52 pm
@Fred …so that’s where region 8 is
…so how do you see the region playing out over the next 2 weeks…
blu eagle
October 31st, 2012
6:21 pm
I truly enjoy the maxwell ratings and sos information. It makes you think on many different levels as it relates to teams in different classes,different areas of the state.To rate NSWR high in the rankings when we had not played anyone of signifigance was backwards thinking when in fact overall strength of schedule and historical put us there. Anyway keep up the good work, I am not naive enough to believe there is no gambling in hs football but it is not fueled by these rating systems.
sportsnut
October 31st, 2012
7:19 pm
@ Your Highness74 == November is here and it is time to get down to business. There are many good teams in 6A and the playoffs are going to be fun. Now comes the time to see if Lovejoy can truely compete with the so-called “Big Boys”. Now we will find out if Grayson is still king of the hill. Will Camden return the title to South Georgia ? Does region 4 shock region 1 ?Will Cobb get it’s first state champion ? Who survives the Gwinnett wars ? Many more questions to be answered and the test starts real soon. Time to cram and brush up on possible opponents. In reference to your comment on who we lost to and why. We lost to Colquit County. We were beaten by the officials and ourselves. The complaint department is closed. Case closed. Serious times ahead. Good luck to the wildcats friday. Hope to see you soon.
Camden03
October 31st, 2012
7:30 pm
Please Lord even if Camden doesn’t win it all let the title return to the south so order can be restored and these North GA teams will stop thinking they can compete. Amen
Camden74
October 31st, 2012
7:40 pm
VilingTillEye……..You very well might be screaming come Saturday morning, but I don’t believe it will be for the reasons you think!
Camden74
October 31st, 2012
7:44 pm
sportsnut……..Time will tell……..Camden County Wildcats……….Here we come!
Pjboy24
October 31st, 2012
11:06 pm
it make’s sense to me that the better the team the easier the schedule…lol I think Lovejoy has a fine team this year. As usual they must prove themselves. im sure if they won state this year there would be a reasonable explanation like… “they had an easy playoff bracket” or “they didnt play in an SEC caliber region so they were injury free”. hehe. Anywho, i guess we’ll all find out in das playoff . Best of Luck!
sportsnut
November 1st, 2012
5:55 am
@ Pjboy24 == I’m sure the kids would appreciate your view. Do you remember the start of the Gulf War ? ” Shock and Awe ” is what they called it. Watch for this to happen, starting friday and continuing until round 4. Surprises await for many. 6A is wide open. My favorite, of course is Lovejoy but like I keep saying, it’s wide open.
CCWildcats76
November 1st, 2012
7:19 am
A few of things…local ranking determines seeding only, the final outcome on 15 Dec says it all…one must expect injuries during the year and hope someone step up…love the passion here for football but understand anything can happen on Friday or Saturday…like when Lowndes was called PLOWBOYS…. last but not least, someone needs to posted the cooking instructions for crow
sportsnut
November 1st, 2012
8:53 am
@ Your Highness74 == For many teams, the next 2 weeks are going to clear up a few things. Travel ? Where ? Winning is paramount this and next week. Winning can answer those previous questions. It will be interesting to see how teams match up. Region 1, with their grind it out type of football against region 4 and it’s mix of running and throwing teams. Region 2 may go 3-1 against Region 3, with Lovejoy(R1) and Hughes(R2) being on top. I think Region 8 will do well vs. Region 5. Different style of football. Lassiter will need to be tough. They will be facing a pretty good 4 seed. Region 6 vs. 7 is going to be good football. Can’t call that. Pretenders will go early. In 2 weeks, it will be nice to be both lucky and good. The show is about to start.