Buford forfeits two football wins for using ineligible player
Buford forfeited victories over Banks County and West Hall on Monday for the use of an ineligible player, the GHSA announced.
The player, who was not named, did not have the required units of credit to be eligible academically. Buford reported the incident to the GHSA.
The player participated only in two plays in each game, one a 63-0 victory over Banks County on Sept. 28, the other a 61-0 victory over West Hall on Oct. 10.
Buford’s record falls to 4-3 overall and 2-2 in Region 7-AAA. The forfeits put North Hall (6-1, 4-0) in the lead in 7-AAA and put five teams with 2-2 records: Buford, Dawson County, White County, Banks County and West Hall.
If North Hall loses no more than one game, North Hall will win the region. Buford has won region titles 10 of the past 11 seasons, failing only in 2009, when the Wolves still won a Class AA state title.
In a press released issued Monday afternoon, Buford stated that its athletics department discovered last week that the player’s name had been inadvertently left off a required GHSA eligibility form.
”Upon checking student records, it was determined that the football player did pass the required classes last semester; however, was not on track for graduation and did not have the total number of Carnegie units required to be eligible for athletic participation,” the press release stated.
The forfeits now represent 25 percent of the games lost by Buford since Jess Simpson became coach in 2005. Simpson’s record, formerly 102-6, is now 100-8.
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Special K
October 22nd, 2012
12:04 pm
1st. LOL
Camden74
October 22nd, 2012
12:13 pm
Where’s wolfie?
Spartan Child
October 22nd, 2012
12:32 pm
Don’t mess with tha Spartans baby!
grayram
October 22nd, 2012
12:34 pm
100-8 ..is pretty good, And even Camden i believe falls short of Bufords titles
Jefferson
October 22nd, 2012
12:37 pm
If they make the playoffs, this means little.
Golden Isles Fan
October 22nd, 2012
12:41 pm
truth be known it is probably a ploy to evade better teams in the playoffs….I guess to position themselves more in a more favorably in the playoffs……IMO.
sportsnut
October 22nd, 2012
12:46 pm
Sad to hear. However, I think they will still make the playoffs with the games they have remaining. Speaking of that, who are their remaining games against? Are the above mentioned teams on their schedule ?
Camden74
October 22nd, 2012
12:49 pm
grayram…..How does Grayson measure up?
KShake
October 22nd, 2012
1:03 pm
This is only the tip of the iceberg to the cheating that goes on at Buford State University. They recruit the state better than Ga Tech & Georgia!
Rezner74
October 22nd, 2012
1:07 pm
I hope West Hall is Building something because they have been a doormat for years!!
Boydism
October 22nd, 2012
1:09 pm
Fire them all…cheaters…Long Live Boyd!
Cry Wolf
October 22nd, 2012
1:27 pm
Get out! Buford using ineligible players?
I thought all of their D1 one players were developed in their pound ball system.
BullDawgRick
October 22nd, 2012
1:38 pm
Golden Isle… No ploy.. How can being the #2 seed (instead of #1) going to help ya in the playoffs??
This will have no effect on the field.. With or without him, Buford would’ve won, as they will in the playoffs…
cobbfootball
October 22nd, 2012
1:44 pm
Hey Return Home,
Why don’t you lay out your documented proof that Buford is cheating and turn them in to the GHSA. If there is wrongdoing like with Shiloh’s football coach or Milton’s basketball coach or Buford in this case, I’m sure the association will act.
However, if you don’t have proof to back up your claims, then you are worse than the actual cheaters. All you are doing is dragging someone’s name though the mud for no good reason.
oldtimer
October 22nd, 2012
2:10 pm
Seems to me the article said Buford forfeited the games due to a player not have the correct Grade Point Average. They even self reported it. No one has said anything about illegal recruited players. What are you people smoking?
Todd Holcomb
October 22nd, 2012
2:20 pm
Article updated to note explain how the player was ineligible, and also that he participated in two plays in each of those games.
Todd Holcomb
October 22nd, 2012
2:22 pm
”If they make the playoffs, this means little.”
Buford almost definitely will finish in second place now and be projected to play on the road at #1 Peach County in the quarterfinals. Chances of getting to the championship game definitely go down.
Spartan mama
October 22nd, 2012
2:25 pm
Cobbfootball…it is definitely a known fact among all who live in the West Hall area that Buford has recruited several of our players over the years!! It has been reported and yet the great cover-up continues.
Matt the Brave
October 22nd, 2012
2:26 pm
Nice to see a high school self-reporting and actually taking the losses. I guess this goes down as the biggest victories for those two high schools this year, right?
Todd Holcomb
October 22nd, 2012
2:27 pm
I should add that Buford first must win at North Oconee in the second round just to make the QF and a potential game at Peach County. Win the region, and Buford might’ve played 4 home games to the Dome. Definitely harder.
justafan
October 22nd, 2012
2:27 pm
I’m all for school loyalty, but “Return home Local Spartans” is way off base when he accuses Buford and other schools of recruiting players. The TRUTH is, winning is the best recruiting tool. Athletes want to play for a winner and have a chance to play for a championship. Nothing against West Hall but right now they don’t have the athletes to win at the state level. So Mr. Spartan, crawl back into your hole.
oldtimer
October 22nd, 2012
2:27 pm
But Todd, the bloggers on here must not read your article cause they want to accuse Buford of using players who were illegally recruited.
justafan
October 22nd, 2012
2:30 pm
I see that Spartan Mama has joined the mud slinging. Where is the proof?? I’m not a Buford supporter, nor Buford fan, but I don’t like seeing programs accused of something that isn’t true.
Dont jump to conclusions
October 22nd, 2012
2:41 pm
They don’t have to recruit. Families are lining up to bring their kids to the school for the academics, facilities and yes the sports. The class sizes are small and the admisnistration does not put up with any “stuff” which parents love (the kids may not). Anyone who has an opportunity or the means to send their kids there would be crazy not to. This was a self policing action. How many schools would have turned themselves in?
Dont jump to conclusions
October 22nd, 2012
2:49 pm
@ return home, Maybe you should be asking the question why do families want to leave West Hall to go to Buford or Gainsville or Flowery branch or anyone else you want to blame. If you have facts lay them out before the GHSA.
Boydism
October 22nd, 2012
2:49 pm
Pat them on the back…you kidding me!
Everyone knows who Buford is and what they stand for – you must be a new parent at the school
robo71
October 22nd, 2012
2:49 pm
if you live in gwinnett county you are laughing your a** off….
justafan
October 22nd, 2012
2:53 pm
My best guess is that “Retun home local spartans” is the parent of a current West Hall football player.
justafan
October 22nd, 2012
2:55 pm
And possibly the husband of “Spartan Mama”. Imagine the dinner time discussions…………..
Buford = Cheaters
October 22nd, 2012
2:57 pm
it’s a known fact. Buford Cheats. Plain and simple. Let’s see how good their coaching staff is coaching kids at West Hall, Dacula, Duluth, etc. They recruit and find all the loop holes. Glad this happened to those who cheat!
Jefferson
October 22nd, 2012
3:05 pm
Definitely harder… maybe more travel, but if you can win the belts you can win on the way to the belt match. Peach may be the one who don’t want that game.
CoffeeC100
October 22nd, 2012
3:07 pm
Two goats and a warthog walk into a pawn shop…
GBI
October 22nd, 2012
3:14 pm
You Buford cheaters that say, “where is the proof?” are all saying the same thing in defense of Lance Armstrong, right? You are outraged that he’s been stripped of his titles, right? Deny your fraudulent dynasty all you want. Milton basketball coach used the same defense. See where it got him.
joe
October 22nd, 2012
3:14 pm
Spartan Mama: If you’re gonna make it up, it has to at least be believable!!! West Hall hasn’t had a player that Buford would want, for over 20 years.
Haters are hilarious
October 22nd, 2012
3:23 pm
This is too hilarious …. Just imagine how many more points we would have scored on West Hall if that ineligible player would have played more that 2 plays in the victory formation ……. that’s great.
You guys are great comedy on a Monday !!!! I love the “Everybody knows” line …… That’s great
Hahahaha
October 22nd, 2012
3:24 pm
Amen!!!! Finally!!!!
Hahahaha
October 22nd, 2012
3:26 pm
I heard after the Gainesville lost that Buford head coach ran off the field and did not shake hands because he was pissed. Not a north hall fan but congrats to them now. I hope they beat Buford. Finally they get caught somehow or another they recurit it’s a known fact.
B Alumni
October 22nd, 2012
3:36 pm
But this IS a 20 year known epidemic that has been covered up by multi-million dollar connected benefactors and county commision influence and crafty work on a lot of levels. ntil the facts are nailed you are somewhat correct.
Jeez. If your school is a winner, people will seek you out to play on your team. If you are a great player on a losing team, chance are that you will go somewhere else where your talents will be noticed. It doesn’t take a huge conspiracy to get a great player on a lousy team to move elsewhere. Applying Occam’s razor, just the fact that West Hall sucks is enough for great players to simply go elsewhere… no conspiracy necessary!
Mike
October 22nd, 2012
3:45 pm
Buford cheating…..No, it just can’t be. There must be some mistake….
They have been assembling hand picked all-star teams for 10 years and this is what gets them?
Haters are hilarious
October 22nd, 2012
3:55 pm
LOL ……. “hand picked all star teams”
That great !!! lol
Both Things Are True
October 22nd, 2012
4:03 pm
1. Buford is a good school academically with a winning athletic program full of top talent.
2. They also recruit.
Take 100 steps in any direction away from that school and see what you find.
BullDawgRick
October 22nd, 2012
4:20 pm
All the haters out there… LOL all over yourselves…
Look, you probably have not been to Buford & seen the facilities there.. All ya need to go to school there is $2,000. a year for tuition.. Your child could go there & have state of the art facilities that stack up with ANY high school in the state AAAAAA thru A..
As for the DA that stated that the Wolves coaches could not win at another school, you are ignorant… There’s a feeder program in Gwinnett County that’s tops in Ga if not top 5 in the entire country. Called Gwinnett Football League… The “small school” from the county has numerous champions from 6 year-olds thru 13 year-olds… This is where it all starts!! & you should see the facilities there!! as good or better than most junior colleges!!
Appreciate & Quit the HATE… (Or actually get involved in YOUR school!)
bwolves
October 22nd, 2012
4:31 pm
ReturnHomeLocalSpartans – Can you read or are you just incapable of comprehending the article. If you’re schools weren’t so crappy, parents wouldn’t pay to send them to Buford. I think you should look at your own house. We’re still in the playoffs and were Pi$$ed.
Fred
October 22nd, 2012
5:35 pm
@Camden74 – A little sensitive are you? I read it as a compliment to both teams and a statement fact over Buford’s many, many titles. More than Camden and more than Grayson. Everything is not a slam on Camden you know.
keith
October 22nd, 2012
6:00 pm
its about time buford gets what they deserve.
Golden Isles Fan
October 22nd, 2012
6:04 pm
Camdens B team could beat buford……………………………………….FACT
Camden74
October 22nd, 2012
6:05 pm
Fred…..If it’s not a “slam” on Camden, as you put it, why even mention Camden? Why not mention Valdosta, Lowndes, Warner Robins or NSWR……etc? I mentioned Grayson because he very well could have used Grayson as an example, why not? It seems that you’re a bit sensitive yourself……
SOUTH GEORGIA FOOTBALL
October 22nd, 2012
6:13 pm
Buford way to man up,this speaks volumes for your school. Buford was built on winning and winning state titles. You really have a great football program. I was impressed when we pierce county played you all in the quater finals in 2001. The fans were really nice. Good luck in the play offs wolves.
From Off
October 22nd, 2012
6:21 pm
Poetic justice that the two forfeits come to banks and WH. Buford beat them by a combined 120+ to 0. Not very neighborly in your new region. The constant question is “Why does Buford not play up” like Marist? It really must be boring taking a southeastern all star team and whipping up on poor rural mountain schools. They whinned like babies last reclassification to get away from the private schools in Atlanta and cited safety issues traveling I-85.
Whether they recruit or not, it is a fact that well over 50% of their students are migrant or have been brought in to government homes. The $2000 tuition is a sham. That is not offered to just anyone. You must be accepted because of your tithes, talents and/or both. Did the young man play in other games? Did they just self report enough to not knock them out of a playoff birth? Have they faced the music in their own region?
FridayNightLightsFan
October 22nd, 2012
6:23 pm
This was NOT for cheating. People are so wound up with bashing Buford they don’t see this was because some young man didn’t keep his grades up and played 4 (count them 4) plays that had ZERO effect on those games other then maybe an attempt to get some young man a letter on his jacket. Buford turned themselves in and there was no cover up so I don’t see any reason for the hate other than maybe spite.
Hubert Green
October 22nd, 2012
6:26 pm
I’m sure Milton offered those players, a, um, yeah, a name of an apt complex, and, a chance to workout, and ah, um, a great gym, and a national schedule, and good academics, and a ah a good coach and playing for championships, wow that is just horrible! Anybody care to guess what is going on at Wheeler, Norcross, et al?
Jacketaxe
October 22nd, 2012
6:33 pm
Some Buford folks call people “haters” , how does that make you feel ? Just because they want to see Buford lose games doesn’t imply hate. Wonder why.
Corso Kool Aid
October 22nd, 2012
6:45 pm
Not so fast my friend….North Hall is legit, so don’t write Buford into #2. I’ve seen them both play and I think North Hall takes them, which would likely drop U of Buford to #3 and the Dawson-White winner to #2.
Just remember, you can’t spell Buford without UFO, which means there is some shady stuff going in that district.
Faith
October 22nd, 2012
6:59 pm
Has anyone said good job to the admin for doing the right thing. At least someone has a little ethical behavior.
humbug
October 22nd, 2012
7:13 pm
If he was in only one play in each of the two blowouts he didn’t do much to affect the games. They should throw him off the team simply because they don’t need him.
Just a Fan
October 22nd, 2012
7:15 pm
Once again no one is paying attention to the report on athletic transfers published earlier this year.They are so convinced that the city schools and private schools are the culprits that they cant face the real facts.The unfounded accusations are the most lame-class envy must have spilled over into high school football.
JRM
October 22nd, 2012
7:56 pm
For those of you bashing Buford get real! I went there so go there and actually learn what’s going on… Parents want there kids to go there to get to the sports…so who cares about that! Buford players are committed that’s why they succeed! Maybe if other schools had committed team players they might get on Buford’s level. Yes they might have used some player not academically able, but atleast they admitted it and came forward… Buford isn’t a cheater, all the coachs and players have their heart and soul put into all their sport of choice…
For those of you saying Buford is a Cheater…. GIVE ME PROOF!! This one doesn’t court because they had the guts to come forward and forfeit these games! If they wanted to cheat they could have went and changed grades around and made him eligible, but no they didn’t do that!
Columbia Blue
October 22nd, 2012
8:02 pm
I would like to know how many QUALITY FOOTBALL PLAYERS transfer to Buford during or after their ninth grade year. I personally believe the recors would prove that many players transfer to Buford.
Region 7-AAA
October 22nd, 2012
8:12 pm
Being a North Hall fan, I hate to see this happen to any school, especially one in the same region as my team because that is just going to make us look like unworthy region champs. But I strongly thought we could have won region this season without help and we were on track to do that.
LakeDawg
October 22nd, 2012
8:21 pm
North Hall can still win the region “on the field” by beating Buford. Should be a great game.
WILDHAWG2012
October 22nd, 2012
8:46 pm
Well to me it will make for some great football games with Buford traveling on the road at some pretty stiff comp in the 2nd and 3rd round. So we know how good they at home in the playoffs but on the road will test their metal but its Buford so they still will be a threat to win it all.
Rizzo
October 22nd, 2012
8:56 pm
@From Off:
Where are you getting those “facts” about government homes, etc?
Don’t you think if these “facts” we’re true, they’d have investigated by now?
Most of the students I know don’t like the strictness of the school day at Buford, but it produces results academically and athletically.
Mighty Mighty Wildcats
October 22nd, 2012
9:53 pm
I thought we were the only ones that recruited, and we havent done so since the 90’s, hence no SC’s in Winnersville.
Intersting
October 22nd, 2012
10:11 pm
Guess we will see just how good North Hall is on Nov 9. Glad to hear the confidence you have in your team and I look forward to a good game. This “incident”, whether you spin it as a gotcha opportunity or an honest admission really is simply blogging fuel but should certainly make the playoffs a bit more challenging and interesting. My knowledge of the coaching staff and the players at Buford tells me that the focus has become lazer sharp and could possibly be the trigger these guys need to pick it up a notch and pull the “family” closer together for the playoff run……….. good thing the game is played on the field and the blogs are left for us has beens and ESPN analyst wanna be’s ………. lol
Rizzo
October 22nd, 2012
10:13 pm
Good insight Intersting.
Fred
October 22nd, 2012
10:26 pm
@grayram said “100-8 ..is pretty good, And even Camden i believe falls short of Bufords titles.”
then
@Camden74 said “grayram…..How does Grayson measure up?”
I said it was a compliment to Camden’s team and @Camden74 took offense to that. Sheesh man, you need to get that chip of your shoulder. Neither I nor grayram said *anything* that was denigrating in any way to Camden. You are all over the blogs claiming your team is all that and a bag of chips. Many people are saying you are the team to beat in 6A this year. It looks a lot like grayram was acknowledging that and your recent record. If that bothers you, then look at the records. Buford has 8 state titles, Camden has 3. His statement is true. Camden has more recent titles than Valdosta or Lowndes. It is natural to look at recent results to compare against. Grayson only has 1. Why would anyone compare 8 titles against 1? I certainly wouldn’t and I’m pretty sure grayram wasn’t either.
Oh, and I can put a smiley at the end of my comment as well.
Really now
October 22nd, 2012
10:37 pm
I know for a fact that Buford in the past have recruited players outside their district.
Intersting
October 22nd, 2012
10:43 pm
Oh that’s original ……. The smoking gun !!! C’mon Really, elaborate please
Intersting
October 22nd, 2012
10:44 pm
And have you released this smoking gun to the GHSA so they can investigate these heathens from Buford …………… lol
My dad is a tv repairman. I can fix it.
October 22nd, 2012
11:44 pm
Both things are true is 100% dead on with observations 1 and 2. Not so sure about #3
My dad is a tv repairman. I can fix it.
October 22nd, 2012
11:49 pm
BTW, Buford will crush North Hall by at least three touchdowns. For sure, write it down and dont look back. Its a wrap
Alex
October 23rd, 2012
12:05 am
Yep, that Buford crowd is a bunch that just does not get it and how the world views there little fish bowl. You got Boss Hog up there building monuments to himself at taxpayer expense. You got everybody name Burge, Beard, Reed, Wilson and Smith employed one place or another through nepotism. You have a school full of teachers not smart enough to be anything but lazy teachers where the rest of their family is employed. Cap it off with the only thing that matters in the Buford City School System is football and sports. They spend like crazy on fields and equipment but cannot educate the children as well as they should. Dexter Wood is an enemy of education. Banks Bitterman is just a plain moron. But hey, all the butt heads are going to elect themselves to the stupid Buford Sports Hall of Fame! Idiots!
Alex
October 23rd, 2012
12:07 am
@ Intersting….you friggin moron – cannot even spell. Hey, Christie Thomas! Nuff said on cheating and recruiting.
buford
October 23rd, 2012
12:18 am
@Alex you are probably the one that complained about buford praying and having preachers come to the school that are now not allowed there anymore. If I remember correctly buford academics have scored higher than most other gwinnett county schools, I think you are a figgin moron and buford beats your team and you just cant handle it.
Camden74
October 23rd, 2012
12:26 am
Fred……Why would anyone compare 8 titles with 3? Pat Grayson on the back, they need it more than Camden does…..
High School announcer
October 23rd, 2012
1:04 am
Just a thought…I wouldn’t be so sure Buford will “crush” North Hall. I did the North Hall game Friday and this team will be tough to beat. They are quick and very fundamentally sound. AND if North Hall can somehow put a great game together and beat Buford…the winner of the White County/Dawson County game would then be #2 (if they take care of business against the struggling teams), and Buford would be #3.
NTH
October 23rd, 2012
1:54 am
Hey my dad is a TV repairman … You apparently haven’t seen North Hall play this year and you’re statement is backed by who Buford has been in the past. Not this season. But even if Buford gets by with a win, who’s gonna be region champs and have the easiest road to the Dome? North Hall.
jw
October 23rd, 2012
6:30 am
Buford – another one of those high school programs that has always flown under the GHSA radar with the student eligibility stuff. When is the GHSA going to go after these districts that have a revolving door transfer system in place? Who was going to turn them in if they didn’t report the player?
Kind of silly that we have a governing body in place – GHSA and they do NOTHING to curb all the transfer and eligibility issues that are quietly swept under the rug each and every season. Step up and get high school sports in line – academically and athletically – PLEASE. Stop going after Bethlehem Elementary School and make a point with these powerhouse programs. If the schools see that you mean business, they will straighten up their acts.
Problem is – that will never happen – GHSA could care less about GEORGIA high school athletics. What a waste!
Recruit hell..
October 23rd, 2012
6:56 am
Just one thing to say… how many 300 lb offensive lineman in the State of Georgia? How many in Buford’s starting line up? Year after year I keep seeing 280 to 300 lb lineman at Buford. Other teams have never had one! That pretty much sums it up.
@jw
October 23rd, 2012
7:48 am
Coins my friend! The GHSA, sure they care…they care about “under the table” cash coming from
Yep! Those guys. But sometimes its a little hard to catch when it happens in a church.
Interesting
October 23rd, 2012
7:51 am
Ha Ha …. Where’s the love Alex ? I believe it is acually that us folks up here in Buford don’t really give a crap about what everybody outside of “our little fish bowl” think of us (and my last name is not one of the list you posted)
But it is certainly funny to see all you other fish flopping around our bowl looking in wishing you could swim a little !!! It’s obvious by your post that you have spent a little time “up here” because you seem to have it all figured out. Curious to know where your from as to compare schools…….. Sticks and stones Alex… Sticks and stones LOL
Ballhawk34
October 23rd, 2012
8:07 am
Buford recruits West Hall kids??? LOL!!! West Hall couldn’t beat the Buford 9th grade team. And Buford also has the best coaching staff in the state.
Ladyluckjc
October 23rd, 2012
8:09 am
Alex has issues.
Ladyluckjc
October 23rd, 2012
8:10 am
“Enemy of Education”? Really?
donk
October 23rd, 2012
9:03 am
we were winning back in the 70’s and 80’s… this is a legacy of success we play all of the public teams that show up and all of the private schools (that recruit) show up..all of you losers need to drink your daily dose of “haterade”
peace… donk.
Jefferson
October 23rd, 2012
9:06 am
Buford is not number #1 anymore.
Candytails
October 23rd, 2012
9:18 am
BUFORD…if you all had any stones at all you would step up to 5A football and compete with comparablely skilled teams. Cheating is when you recruit as a “public” school through loopholes in state laws and then play little bitty AA and AAA schools for championships.
No question your facilities are state of art. It’s just u play in a classification where you can not lose. Even when they take 2 wins away.
Man up an quit whinning.
Beat Buford or Die Trying
October 23rd, 2012
9:20 am
Buford is a charter school operating as a public. Either get with it or continue to hate.
Interesting
October 23rd, 2012
9:50 am
@candytails – I might ask the 5A and 6A schools to “Man Up” and play down (why I don’t know but anyway). We did play Gainesville (Thank Them for “manning up”) and unfortunately came up on the short end.
You cannot put a team on the schedule that won’t agree to it and the upper level class teams will not agree to even a home in home contract ……………. Sorry to disappoint, but maybe the pressure should switch to the large schools.
Question for you …. Of what benefit is it for a 5 or 6A school to play a 3A school ? I’m pretty sure that the coaches and kids would love to play up in the non region games.
Shay
October 23rd, 2012
10:03 am
To all the idiots saying they cheated, he played 4 SNAPS. So keep hating, Buford is still where you wish your kids went.
My dad is a tv repairman. I can fix it.
October 23rd, 2012
10:05 am
Im a buford backer or a north hall hater, but buford will trounce the trojans. I have seen both teams play. Here is why buford wins by 20+. Bufords ball control offense will keep ball away from norths ground n pound machine, ergo north wont run nearly as many offensive snaps as usual which is what north does to wear down the opposing defense. Also norths D wont be able to stop bufords offense which is getting better every game. Also north has a history of getting blown out by better teams. Couple that with the fact that Buford now feels like they have something to prove, watch out. It may be a 30 point blowout. Bank on it.
My dad is a tv repairman. I can fix it.
October 23rd, 2012
10:07 am
“im not a buford backer”. I have respect for both programs. North recruits too, just not to bufords level.
Fred
October 23rd, 2012
10:07 am
@Camden74 said “Fred……Why would anyone compare 8 titles with 3? Pat Grayson on the back, they need it more than Camden does….. ” Unbelievable! Two people from one of your competitors compliment your program talking about it in the top tier and you can’t see it for some unknown reason. That must not be a chip on your shoulder, more like a giant redwood. By the way, I do pat the program at Grayson on the back regularly as they have come a long way in a short time but not because they need it more than Camden does. Ah well, enough said on this topic.
lol
October 23rd, 2012
10:10 am
north hall won’t beat Buford. Sorry I’m not sorry
Interesting
October 23rd, 2012
10:10 am
I’m calling for Fred vs. Camden74 in a cage match !!!!!
Fred
October 23rd, 2012
10:15 am
@Shay – No, I am quite pleased where my kid went, thank you very much.
I don’t know and don’t really know where to look but to me the question should be how many kids playing football at Buford live in the city limits and what percentage of the team that constitutes. Then I would look at how many of the impact players live in the city limits and what percentage of the team that constitutes. That would probably answer the question about so called recruiting. Yes, I realize Buford has open enrollment with payment of the nominal tuition fees and anyone can legally choose to send their kid(s) there but to my mind, that makes them more like a private school that can and does recruit.
Interesting
October 23rd, 2012
10:37 am
I’m not sure you can call it recruiting when the kids and the parents are lining up at the door …… Maybe enlisting, but not recruiting. lol
I’m also pretty sure, with all of the proof I see many claiming to have, that if “the proof” was all forwarded to the GHSA, they might have looked into it and it seems from all of the post with proof that I see, it should be a pretty open and shut case against Buford.
And I am also pretty sure that if all this proof was documented with the GHSA, that it would be pretty difficult for them to take the “under the table” money that is also alleged quite freguently.
And I’m also pretty sure that if many of you that are smacking Buford around lived close enough to the University (LOL), that you to would probably sign your kid up if he (or she because it is not just a football program but a sports program) was a good athlete as it offers them a much better avenue to a scholarship.
I’m just saying …………………
Camden74
October 23rd, 2012
10:42 am
Fred….Never have and never will, care for back handed compliments. Give them to someone else.
Dman
October 23rd, 2012
10:58 am
Has anyone of you ever heard of smoke and mirrors?
Interesting
October 23rd, 2012
11:12 am
Do tell DMAN —- how they pulling that off ?
Titletown USA
October 23rd, 2012
12:02 pm
I keep saying that Camden fans have a complex, I think it is residual from being a Region 3 bully for so long. The funny thing is that I think the Grayson fans are second on this list!!
That Dude Says...
October 23rd, 2012
12:36 pm
@ Fred…
My friend you might as well give it a rest with camden74. That guy is the biggest egotistical know it all on these blogs. The guy lives for these blogs. It’s like him and a few others have no job, friends, family, or life. They are always on here. Sad thing is beside region 1 6A he is probably clueless about Ga high school football.
NOttahappykamper
October 23rd, 2012
1:07 pm
@All the folks that are claiming that great players want to come to Buford for recruiting…I call BS. If you are a great talent and can play ANY sport, and you stand out in your sport, and you have a very supportive coach(es), you will be recruited. Period. So don’t use that excuse as to why Buford gets the players they “attract”.
Camden74
October 23rd, 2012
1:42 pm
That Dude says……..Not much!
grayram
October 23rd, 2012
1:54 pm
Camden74, Fred:
I used Camden as an example because i was responding to Camden74’s “where is Wolfie” comment . There was nothing backhanded intended. I have some friends that live in the Camden district so i have been keeping up with them for several years and have always been impressed. I love the way Camden represents Georgia against out of state teams and they are certainly among the best in the state every year. Buford is another of Georgia’s elite teams year in and year out.
Fred
October 23rd, 2012
2:34 pm
@ interesting – No match brother! Too old for that stuff.
@grayram & @That Dude Says… – I’m over it. You try to give the man a compliment and he can’t accept it, well that’s his problem. Won’t be hearing it from me again this year for sure.
@Titletown – no complex from me. I get a little frustrated when someone always thinks the world is out to get them and can’t understand a compliment but like I said, life’s too short and I’ve got other things to do. After all, based on our previous performance, I need to be helping the team prepare for BYE. After all, BYE got us so bad we didn’t recover in time for the next game!
cat doc
October 23rd, 2012
3:22 pm
How many other times has Buford cheated. Propst is next.
HardHat
October 23rd, 2012
3:24 pm
Would love to see that Peach County vs Buford game. Great to see that the coach up there empty the bench and the kid plays 4 downs in 2 games. Wish more coaches did that !
Buford4Life
October 23rd, 2012
3:37 pm
Buford School Systems have some of the best facilities in the state. Number one in the state in academics, the arts, and all sports. “So when you come at the king, you best not miss!’
Buford4Life
October 23rd, 2012
3:47 pm
People shouldn’t get mad that Gwinnett County parents are paying to send their children to the Buford School Systems, to get a better education and opportunities. Just look at how well Gwinnett County has been ran lately……. Can you blame them?
Buford4life
October 23rd, 2012
4:37 pm
And for the record….. Who the hell cares about Camden? I thought they would have been annexed by the state of Florida by now… South Georgia football is a joke now. The power lays in North Georgia!
Give Me a Break
October 23rd, 2012
4:52 pm
Why do Camden’s players keep their SAT results on their dash boards?
So they can park in Handicap Parking
Give Me a Break
October 23rd, 2012
4:54 pm
What do you call a Camden fan with half a brain?
Gifted
Camden Rules
October 23rd, 2012
4:58 pm
Camden will win state this year!!!! Buford is the real Joke!!!
Who Cares?
October 23rd, 2012
5:24 pm
You folks are arguing about “high school football”…………more important stuff in life. “Things change Mox….things change”.
Fred
October 23rd, 2012
5:55 pm
@Buford4Life – My kid got into GA Tech aerospace engineering on early admission and is a straight up product of Gwinnett Public Schools and engaged (but not helicopter!) parents. What you get out of school is what you put into it. Parents are engaged at Buford due to the fact the made that choice. The biggest predictor of academic success in parental involvement.
Golden Isles Fan
October 23rd, 2012
6:19 pm
I believe the reason Buford confessed about the illegal player is because of the Milton scandal ….to appease the GHSA the powers that be……so that it will take the microscope off of them…..truth be known they violate many rules of engagement……..IMO
NTH
October 23rd, 2012
7:35 pm
Who cares? … You must not be from the south.
Intersting
October 23rd, 2012
7:43 pm
@goldenislefan ……. I appreciate your opinion and would curiously like to know if you have basis for your opinion ? Again if you can use the term “truth be know”, then I am sure you are confident enough to share and also report it to the GHSA ?
Why won’t anyone that has these “truths”, “facts” and “evidence” share them and why not report them to the GHSA …….. ?? I’m Interested lol
Camden74
October 23rd, 2012
8:41 pm
Go Camden County Wildcats!
Camden74
October 23rd, 2012
8:42 pm
wolfie, wolfie, wolfie! Where are you? It’s time to come out!
Jacketaxe
October 23rd, 2012
8:53 pm
Buford has had some chop blocking linemen over the last few years and that kind of cheating only gets an occasional flag, this must be self confessed next level rule breaking, not creating eh?
Jon
October 23rd, 2012
8:53 pm
Nobody’s talking about the $50 fine they had to pay. Alex was kicked out of Buford for smoking meth. Clearly.
Camden74
October 23rd, 2012
9:30 pm
Titletown USA……Complex, Camden Fans? I hope you have mirror handy!
YELLERJACKETZ1
October 23rd, 2012
10:03 pm
WISH BUFORD WAS STILL IN AA SO WE AT CALHOUN COULD STRAIGHTEN THEM UP !!! GO WOLF PUPPIES
Buford4life
October 24th, 2012
7:35 am
Fred maybe your kid smart enough to figure why his dad is dumb-ass!!!
Captain Ron
October 24th, 2012
7:58 am
Hey CS Buford, ya’ll wanna play Calhoun ?
Captain Ron
October 24th, 2012
8:15 am
Hey Buford4Laughs . You’re the joke. You don’t understand South GA football and would not be welcome here anyway. Our local “small” town rivalries are far more important to us than your mythical State Championships. Many of your titles were over communities(even counties) with populations of less than 10 thousand people. Do you reckon Buford has an advantage there!
Rizzo
October 24th, 2012
8:38 am
Buford leaving AA was the best thing that ever happened to Calhoun.
Chris Burge
October 24th, 2012
1:34 pm
Hey Alex must be nice to sit behind some screen name and feel like a big man and take stabs at folks. These blogs just show how classless some of you folks are along with the AJC. Alex must be someone that couldn’t make the cut at Buford. Next time you want to call my family out along with others just man up and do it in person big guy, just don’t do it at 12:05 a.m. I will be in bed from a hard day at work.
Buford4life
October 24th, 2012
3:05 pm
Captain Ron, High School Football is big in South Georgia because there nothing else to do there!!! I got hold my breathe from Macon untill I get to Florida line when I go on vacation.. That place smells like a bag of ass!!! The best thing to come out of South Georgia was Jimmy Carter… Need I say more?
Buford4life
October 24th, 2012
3:10 pm
And by the way Alex.. Buford is one of the few cities with a surplus budget!! In the worst recession in a 100 years… One man controls this city and that one man should.
CKelley
October 24th, 2012
3:31 pm
The bottom line is that people don’t understand Buford if they’re not from Buford. And it’s quite obvious that a great number of people don’t like Buford at all. I have lived in Buford all of my life, as have my parents, grandparents and the rest of my family. Other people can call us cheaters and recruiters and whatever else, but those people and their opinions do not matter at all. I’ve watched our community come together throughout this last year during some very tragic events and there’s nothing like it. Even if you took football out of the equation, family and community is what Buford is about.
Fred
October 24th, 2012
4:56 pm
@Buford4life – I made a positive comment about GCPS that happens to oppose your belief and coupled it with at worst a neutral statement and really a more positive statement about Buford and you call me a dumb-ass? Shaking my head on this one. I basically don’t care about Buford as you don’t move in our circles and I just don’t have time to follow you closely. Your arguments tend to lose credibility when you have to resort to personal attacks on people. It is called an ad hominem attack. Look it up. It might help you with your comments.
Fredsadouche
October 24th, 2012
6:16 pm
Fred your closeted homosexuality must be really frustrating!!
Wolvesfan
October 24th, 2012
6:28 pm
For those who knock Buford, visit the school sometime. Look how all the schools are set up like a college campus. From class size, to uniform policies to the small town atmosphere and the discipline the school employs. Check out the Fine Arts building . Look at the sports facilities from the 5 astro turf fields for all sports to the weight room that rivals those in D1 programs. Spend a couple days watching the coaching talent from freshman to varsity. Watch how involved those High coaches are in the youth programs from 6 year old and up (doesn’t happen in many schools) , then come back and tell us why you wouldn’t send your child there if you had the opportunity and the means to do it.
Fred
October 25th, 2012
12:44 am
@Buford4life – Changing your screen name doesn’t hide who you are when you respond in the exact same manner and tone. You really out to look up the words as you are only digging a bigger hole of lost credibility.
Fred
October 25th, 2012
12:49 am
@Wolvesfan – I think you miss the point. People basically don’t care about the school, they care about the perception of cherry picking some of best athletes and then claiming not to have an advantage. I asked about the numbers and percentages of athletes from outside the city limits and got attacked. It would be interesting to see how much the City budgets per student in the high school and if it is more than the $2K tuition charged. I know Buford doesn’t offer scholarships like some of the privates but if they are subsidizing students is there a difference?
Rizzo
October 26th, 2012
10:17 pm
Fred, I don’t think anyone in Buford thinks we don’t have an advantage. We know we do because we have an enrollment similar to the private schools we used to compete with in AA. We don’t recruit, parents want to send their kids here. I am a Buford citizen; I know more non-athletes paying tuition than athletes.
CKelly is right. Unless you have been a part of Buford, you just don’t understand how loyal and close these people are to one another. We have been in the NG and the MC cluster and nothing even comes close to Buford.
dan herrmann
October 27th, 2012
5:39 pm
It is my understanding that this player played the last two plays of both blowouts. A total of 4 plays.
An Alabama coach and an Ohio State coach both told me Buford has many kids applying to go to the school. It is really the best school in the area and has a uniform code as well as great athletic programs
We moved from Southlake TX where they were 5A state champs 4-5 in a row. They were busted bringing in a QB from Oklahoma. It is hard to get away with it when parents want their kids to play not an import. So trust me their is none going on there other than parents and kids wanting to go to a great school
Alex
October 28th, 2012
10:40 am
@Chris Burge…..You working hard? You should not be speaking or posting without asking your daddy Phillip! Oh, and tell your worthless brother the grass needs cutting. Truth hurts dude.