GHSA clears Lowndes in spying case

Lowndes’ football program was cleared Tuesday of allegations that its coaching staff was stealing signs in its 17-14 victory over Colquitt County last month, the GHSA announced.

Colquitt County head football coach Rush Propst alleged that an assistant coach that he fired two years ago was using binoculars to watch Colquitt’s sideline and relaying signals to Lowndes’ coaching staff in the press box of a Sept. 28 game.

A video posted online showed Buzz Payne, now part of Thomas County Central’s staff, in front of the visiting press box and watching the game with binoculars. Lowndes coach Randy McPherson denied knowing Payne or using him to intercept signals.

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Oldschool Hawg

October 9th, 2012
3:49 pm

Just shows that the GHSA is as clueless as we all knew they were. They don’t care about what happens in the South anyway. Probably delighted them to see such a pot of poo being stirred! No worries, still got 9 games to go!

Football Nut

October 9th, 2012
4:36 pm

Was the GHSA looking at the same video as everybody else???….You can clearly see the Lowndes coaches looking right at Buzz Payne for his next signal….Come on Man!!!

HardHat

October 9th, 2012
4:36 pm

If you aint cheatin’ you ain’t tryin’..!

Taylor Wooten

October 9th, 2012
4:51 pm

Its a sad day for Georgia HS Football……guess you are free to do whatever. No rules. Enjoy!

yo

October 9th, 2012
4:59 pm

LOL by by Probst. You made such good friends with so many people while you were here.

AVikingFan

October 9th, 2012
5:06 pm

I was sitting a few feet away from where the man in an Alabama shirt and holding binoculars was standing. At the time I thought he was an Alabama scout or recruiter. I learned the next day his name was Buzz payne. He may have been talking andg gestering as if he was communicating with the Lowndes assistant coaches but I promise you the plexiglass is too thick to allow the coaches to hear fans below them. They could barely hear the Lowndes Band. I tried communicating with them myself, in vain.

Payne’s motive was to get in Rush Probst’s head, which he apparently succeeeded in doing, in revenge for getting fired in 2010. Reportedly Probst fired him in front of others, humiliating him. A Colquitt High School administrator stood directly behind Payne and reported he heard no communication between Payne and the Lowndes coaches.

The Sports Editor of the Valdosta Times Newspaper was standing directly behind the Lowndes coaches in the visitors press box. He reported he heard NO communication between Payne and the Lowndes coaches. (This same Sports Editor had been denied admittance to the home side press box! Terrible display of sportsmanship shgown by Colquitt officials.)

Some folks are pushing McPherson to sue Probst in a court of law for defamation of character for Probst calling him a “blatant liar” in the newspaper. Personally I just hope the Colquitt B of E does the right thing and immediately terminates Probst’s contract.

sportsnut

October 9th, 2012
5:23 pm

BREAKING NEWS “OVER @)) INVLVED IN FIGHT BETWEEN COLLINS HILL AND PEACHTREE RIDGE OVER FOOTBALL”

sportsnut

October 9th, 2012
5:24 pm

” 200 INVOLVED”

Colquitt Fan

October 9th, 2012
6:02 pm

We all knew they wouldn’t do anything. How much more obvious can you get? Good luck the rest of the way Lowndes, we’ll see each other again. Everybody rolled over on buzz I’m sure and he’ll be the fall guy. Vikingfan, how hard is it to understand run or pass through a window, Conn admitted he helped them and he helped Lowndes. But like unsaid, good luck the rest of the way

5-Time

October 9th, 2012
6:12 pm

Please people move on already!! You guys lost!! We’ve been cleared!! Why is sportsnut always in Region 1 discussion?? This blog has nothing to do with Collins Hill or Peachtree Ridge!!

Camden74

October 9th, 2012
6:24 pm

sportsnut……Since you’re reporting, who won the fight? :-)

Plowboy - Viking

October 9th, 2012
6:29 pm

Propst better be able to back up these words ” my 2013 team will go undefeated”……he better have them ready, because I think Lowndes might just run the score up !!!!!!

Squirrell

October 9th, 2012
6:31 pm

Playen Lowndes in the Playoffs!

Now that would be “Hog-Heaven”!

If that happens to HAPPEN, Pack wins!

In the Concrete Palace, In the HogPen or In the DOME!

GUARONTEE YA!

border dweller

October 9th, 2012
6:57 pm

Russ Probst callin’ someone out for cheatin is like Hank Williams calling somebody else a drunk.

Propst is gone soon

October 9th, 2012
7:03 pm

Given that Colquitt won’t make the playoffs this year, how soon will Propst be gone?

There already have been discussions, get it done and restore some dignity to the program.

prof.jess

October 9th, 2012
7:04 pm

Anyone in their righ mind would know what Prost, claimed, happen is almost impossible because of the time frame. How could a person look at a teams alingmemnt call down to the opponent and they make the adjustments, and the other teams are running a quick run offense?

Dum-Bass

October 9th, 2012
7:32 pm

Propst reminds me of Petrino. “TROUBLE” seems to follow him where ever he goes. Whether he’s right or wrong this time, he always has something stirred up.

Gman57

October 9th, 2012
7:39 pm

It would appear that Rush P. has the “I’m going to win at all cost”…..or blame the other team’s coach if he doesn’t.

Camden74

October 9th, 2012
7:57 pm

Gman57……CROW! :-)

Dum-Bass

October 9th, 2012
8:11 pm

Mr. P and his problems seem to be contagious. The CCHS band director got fired over an incident with a 17 yr. old band member(fact, was in MO) and the girl’s softball coach resigned over something yet known just days before the playoffs. “Muddy water” seems to be quite prevalent in that area.

Unc BS Ex

October 9th, 2012
8:14 pm

Probpst and the cronies that support him are past disgusting!

vikings suck

October 9th, 2012
8:21 pm

buzz payne did the same thing for grayson last year. you people talking about probst are just a bunch of idiots.

Fan

October 9th, 2012
8:25 pm

Breaking News: GHSA clears Lowndes cites high gas prices, unable to investigate!

Chan

October 9th, 2012
8:31 pm

This is The GHSA telling Propst to get lost. Good job GHSA.

Unc BS EX

October 9th, 2012
8:32 pm

Including my ex!

i'mjustsayingwhati'msaying

October 9th, 2012
8:42 pm

Can we move on now from the reality show already? There are 4 games left in region play. The focus needs to be on that, and not this crap. Colquitt still has Coffee, Valdosta and Camden. Lowndes still has Valdosta, Coffee and Camden. Lot left to decide region. Colquitt can’t afford another loss before they get to Valdosta and Coffee. Camden will more than likely be 4-0 when they get to Lowndes. Coffee has 1 region loss and still have Colquitt, Lowndes and Valdosta. A rough road to travel. This is good stuff right here.

Fire the Nut

October 9th, 2012
8:42 pm

Whose decision it was to hire the Colquitt Co. HC!

Colquitt Fan

October 9th, 2012
9:35 pm

There has no discussions of getting rid of Propst. Propst hasn’t said anything about it since he handed the video and stuff over. Although it was obvious, we all knew nothing would happen. He gave Lowndes credit for stopping the run and causing turnovers. Good for Lowndes, they got away with one. We’ll be ready come playoff time, just like every other year.

laughing hog

October 9th, 2012
9:42 pm

to Fire the Nut

It was the devil that hire him

AVikingFan

October 9th, 2012
9:54 pm

A few last comments on the Colquitt/ Lowndes fiasco. In Dr. Swearngin’s letter to Lowndes principal Mr. Jay Floyd dated October 9, 2012 and of which I have a copy, he informed Lowndes the GHSA would take no action against Lowndes because it found no wrong doing has this direct quote in the 2nd paragraph: “It is important to understand that there are no NFHS or GHSA rules that explicitly prohibit observing signs being given by an opponent and using that information.” (Heck folks, it’s done in baseball all the time!)

Therefore, even if Lowndes did use the infomation Buzz Payne was observing, it is not against ANY GHSA RULES!

The only rule that was broken involving Buzz Payne was a Region 1-AAAAAA rule that “prohibits any region team or its employees from working against a region 1-AAAAAA team in the PLAYOFFS.” Thus when Buzz Payne, still an employee of Valdosta Hiigh School (he resigned over the Christmas break last December), aided and helped Grayson in its game with Colquitt County in last year”s playoffs, VALDOSTA HIGH SCHOOL inadvertantly broke a REGION 1-AAAAAA rule. It is understood and implied that a region 1-AAAAAA team should know what its employees do .(The rule was adopted by region 1-AAAAAA, and prior to that, Region 1-AAAAA, mainly to prohibit the act of sending game films and scouting reports to a playoff team when that team is playing a 1-AAAAAA member team.)

Sooooo, the only question that remains is, is Colquitt County going to continuetro put up with Rush Probst and his antics? Is winning football games as important as the lessons taught to students?

In a few days the letter sent to the GHSA last week by Lowndes Principal Jay Floyd will be released. In his letter to the GHSA, Mr. Floyd quoted the Colquitt principal AFTER the Colquitt Lowndes game as saying “Probst is crazy and he is tired of putting up with his rants and behavior.”

Colquitt Fan, you and a few others can continue to defend the man (Propst) if you want to. But I think you can see that the huge majority of these bloggers oppose your position on this matter. I’ve also been told every team in Region 1-AAAAAA but Colquitt is standing with Lowndes on this and related issues involving Propst.

Now, as far as I’m concerned, the incident is HISTORY, except of course, until we meet Colquitt again!

oldpacker

October 9th, 2012
9:56 pm

Propst could have handled this whole affair quietly through channels, but his monsterous ego wouldn’t let him. He publicly badmouthed the school administration and called other coaches liars. He has given our whole community a black eye. Please “powers that be”, isn’t it time to get rid of this liability?

5-Time

October 9th, 2012
10:42 pm

Neeeeeeext….Huge Rivalry Game coming this Friday Night in “Winnersville-TitleTown!! Lowndes has moved on!! They are focused on the “WINNERSVILLE CLASSIC/TITLETOWN SHOWDOWN” now. Which squad will “Represent”??….”WILDCATS” or “VIKINGS”….

Colquitt Fan

October 9th, 2012
11:22 pm

That not true at all Viking fan since it was other coaches who relayed the wrongdoings to him. It’s over and that’s fine, but Propst isn’t going anywhere so get used to him. Good luck the rest of the way

the truth

October 9th, 2012
11:32 pm

A Viking Fan, I am glad you brought up the part about observing signs and using it against an opponent. I assume they expect everyone to close their eyes while the signs are being given. You look for every advantage you can to win games. I guarantee I am going to scout how plays are signaled and have my coaches in the press box watching with binoculars to try and catch something. If the coach does not have players smart enough to be able to change signs from week to week, maybe he should do what people did in the old days. Go into a huddle, send in the plays by alternating players.

bksmith14

October 10th, 2012
12:24 am

Ok…….here yall go……..i have a source who has told me that propst has been warned by colquitt county administration that he needs to tone it down….way down….and that he is pretty much on his last leg in this regards…..this was told to me through a phone convo today at 8pm……by a source inside the cc football program….

colquittfan…you my friend continue to be igonorant……and nieve……your coach is on hiw way out if he continues to be the same guy who he has been

williambrado1

October 10th, 2012
6:53 am

Look you colquitt players wer beat all night and the score should have been worse. Take your but whipping and solidify it in the playoffs. Get over it, you dont have an offense!

SouthernGent

October 10th, 2012
7:10 am

I am not a Lowndes fan, but I have to ask, isn’t this same Propst who is now questioning some other coach’s ethics the same Propst who was run off due to his having an affair with a young girl at that high school? This is nothing more than sour grapes from a egomaniac. He is just trying to make enough noise so no one pays attention to the fact that he got his tail whipped in his own home stadium. The same stadium where they sell “reserved seating”, but when you show up, they laugh and point visitors to general admission. No class there at all!

yo

October 10th, 2012
7:16 am

Some body is going to make a killing selling binoculars at next years Lowndes/Colquit game.

Oldschool Hawg

October 10th, 2012
7:41 am

Again…all of you Lowndes people are hypocritical IDIOTS. Nobody has questioned the great Randy Macpherson and all of his under the table investigating and scrutinizing and bad-mouthing Rush Propst…but as soon as we have a legitimate complaint we’re accused of being whiners and of not being able to take a loss. Well let me again enlighten you, WE HAVE NEVER SAID BUZZ’S ACTIONS CAUSED US TO LOOSE….SO FRIGGIN QUIT SAYIN THAT WE DID….this incident was brought to light because it is unethical, and if you include the facts from last years Grayson game it makes it even worse. And no one has accused Grayson of cheating…nor are we using that as the reason we lost.

Colquitt Fan

October 10th, 2012
7:47 am

Bk smith, give it a rest moron. You’re the ignorant one with all your stupid sources crap. You don’t know wth you’re talking about. Sources, get outta here with your nonsense. love how you think you know something and call people ignorant while your own fanbase apologizes for you, that means you’re a clown. The thing wasnt about stealing signs, it was about a former disgruntled employee that assists other teams when we play them while employed at another school. That simple. Lowndes got cleared like we knew they would bc I’m sure they just pointed the finger at Payne, which is fine.

Southern Gent. That’s not accurate at all. Propst didn’t cheat w some young girl from school, It with a woman with wh he’s still with today. Not that I condone cheating, but is he really the only person to ever cheat on their spouse? A student? Good lord where do people get this stuff

Oldschool Hawg

October 10th, 2012
8:22 am

Amen Colquitt Fan! Everybody is letting their dislike or hate for Rush and our program cloud the issue. It is cheating kids, plain and simple. The same kids that could very well be your kid or nephew or grandson. No matter what the motivation or root cause and by whatever and whomever, it’s still setting a bad example and cheating our kids! I don’t have a kid involved in the issue, but I know a lot of them on the team. I know their parents also, and I know how just utterly upset and disgusted a lot of them are. What would you do if the situation put your kids in the position of the one that was possibly cheated??? You’d probably blow your top also!

Colquitt Supporter

October 10th, 2012
8:33 am

Oldpacker – well stated. I respect any coaches right to protest(against or for us) but they should do it in a professional manner i.e., going straight to the GHSA and not blasting out opinions on the radio or in the papers.

Southern Gent – never heard the HS girl story. To my knowledge, his current wife would not have been that young when he was in Al.

Coach Miller

October 10th, 2012
8:40 am

It doesnt matter how old the girl was that Propst cheated with “Colquitt Fan”. The fact is, Propst is trying to cite that Lowndes is unethical because there was a guy in the visitor stands with binoculars. However, this is coming from the guy that changed the grades of his students while at Hoover, as well as cheating on his wife.
Yeah this guy knows all about ethics…

Colquitt Fan

October 10th, 2012
8:49 am

That’s wrong too miller. All it was was alleged that he changed grades by some newspaper writer. Even if he did, which was not even close to being proved, it was said that he done it to get a kid into college. Not to benefit himself. You all should quit spouting off stuff that you heard from an uncles closing when you don’t know much at all if any. And it wasn’t like he was hopping from woman to woman, he’s still with the woman. Get over it.

Coach Miller

October 10th, 2012
9:02 am

Propst is a lunatic and he’s turning everyone in Moultrie into one as well!! Who cares though, once he drags down y’alls program like he did at Hoover, y’all can go back to mud boggin on friday nights!!

AVikingFan

October 10th, 2012
9:28 am

Let’s move on folks. Neither Lowndes nor Buzz Payne broke any GHSA rules. Good luck to the Packers from here on out. One thing’s for certain, if history is an indicator, Colquitt will be strong late in the season as as they head into the layoffs. I really think they have a very good chance of knocking off Camdem on Nov 9th.

Lowndes is heading over to Cleveland Field Friday night for our big game with the Cats. We had over 20 players at the radio show last night at the Holiday Inn. They are pumped and ready. They know they will remember playing in this game the rest of their life. Like me and all the Viking Nation, they remember how losing last year’s game felt. They WILL be ready.

Our coaches realize Valdosta has good athletes and are well coached. McPherson believes Valdosta losing to Brooks was a fluke, and the score in the Cats’ game with Camden was misleading. It will take a monster effort by our young men to come out on top. Not many teams go to Cleveland field and walk away winners. One has to only look back to last year’s Valdotsa vs Colquitt game. TheCats often make good teams look bad when playing on what I like to call Blazer Field (Home stadium for Valdosta State University).

Goooooooo Vikings!

sportsnut

October 10th, 2012
9:33 am

@ Camden74 == The cops won. Only one serioys injury and that was delivered by a cop to the knee of a student that had to be taken to the hospital. @ 5-Time == I’m here because I choose to be. Regiom 1 is part of high school football and it is not here solely for your use. This is an Atlanta business which I support with my attention and my money. Stop using it for your discussion if you want no one else involved. You have a newspaper there, use it.

sportsnut

October 10th, 2012
9:40 am

Sorry, only “serious” injury

SGAFootball

October 10th, 2012
10:01 am

Since the Valdosta Daily Times got cute today and decided to publish the article regarding spy gate in print ONLY, could one of our notorious “copy and paste” fans please find a way to get the article on here for everyone to read?

Smidgen

October 10th, 2012
10:11 am

Time for Rush to take his drama back to Alabama. He got run out of Hoover now he needs to be gone from Moultrie. What an idiot.