GHSA bans Milton basketball from postseason
By Todd Holcomb and David Purdum
For the AJC
The Georgia High School Association on Tuesday banned reigning boys basketball state champion Milton from region and state playoffs for the 2012-13 season because of illegally influencing student-athletes to transfer to the north Fulton County school.
Milton’s former coach, David Boyd, resigned Sept. 10 after Milton and Fulton County Schools reported to the GHSA allegations of undue influence.
Under Boyd, Milton won state titles in 2010 and 2012 with several major college recruits, most of whom transferred from other schools. It follows a trend that many find disturbing: No boys basketball team has won Georgia’s highest classification in more than a decade without participating with a high-profile transfer.
The Fulton County investigation that led to Boyd’s resignation — obtained by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution under Georgia’s open records act – revealed that:
- Boyd recommended rental properties to parents and students who were interested in transferring into the district. Several Milton players have lived in the same apartment complex within the school district.
- Boyd invited multiple basketball players, not enrolled at Milton, to open practices in the offseason and evaluated them as potential transfers.
- None of Milton’s former players were part of the investigation or implicated in illegal recruiting.
The report also stated that Roswell basketball coach Ty Phillips filed the initial complaints about Boyd in August. One of Phillips’ former players sought to transfer to Milton.
GHSA Bylaw 1.70 states that it is illegal to influence or induce a student to transfer from one school to another for competitive purposes.
In addition to the postseason ban, the GHSA placed Milton on Severe Warning Status for the 2013-14 and fined the school an undisclosed amount, no greater than $2,500. The GHSA can discipline member schools, but not coaches.
Boyd came to Milton in 2007, when the school had made the state playoffs only three times since 1960. In Boyd’s five seasons, Milton advanced to the state finals four consecutive times and traveled nationally to prestigious showcase tournaments with the state’s top prospects, including Julian Royal (now at Georgia Tech), Evan Nolte (Virginia), Charles Mann (Georgia), Shaquille Johnson (Auburn), Shannon Scott (Ohio State) and Dai-Jon Parker (Vanderbilt). Except for Royal and Nolte, the most prominent players were transfers.
The investigation identified the Lexington Farm Apartments in Alpharetta as home to several Milton basketball players. The report states that “it has been alleged, and not yet confirmed or denied, that some of these students are living there alone and the addresses are only used to allow residence verification.”
Although Milton lost Mann and three other college-bound seniors to graduation, Boyd expected to have a team that could defend its title. He had emailed Milton boosters and national and local media during the summer and mentioned as many as five transfers for the 2012-13 season. Each was a college prospect.
One was former Roswell player Shawn O’Connell. According to the report, O’Connell has two younger brothers who, because of redistricting of the Milton and Roswell school zones, would be forced to attend Milton.
Another was Johnnie Vassar from Indiana. According to the investigation, Vassar has withdrawn from the Fulton County School System and is enrolling at a school in California.
Boyd indicated to Vassar’s mother when summer practices began and the days of the week they were held, according to the investigation. Boyd confirmed that Vassar visited the school and worked out four or five additional times. Boyd stated to investigators that he did evaluate Vassar during the practices, according to the report.
The third player was Zach Hodskins from Tennessee. On June 9, Boyd emailed Tennessee AAU coach Markus Gibbs, inquiring about the skill set of Hodskins, the investigation said.
Boyd said that Hodskins’ father wanted to make sure his son could play with Milton before moving the student into the district. Hodskins practiced two or three times with Milton before enrolling, according to the report.
While these are three primary instances, the report indicated that several other students were invited by Boyd to practice with Milton during this past summer. The investigation contains at least a dozen emails between Boyd and parents and coaches. Boyd assessed the players who were not enrolled at Milton in several emails.
Fulton County athletics director Steven Craft said the investigation found examples of undue influence on multiple occasions.
Supplying real estate information to possible transfers is considered undue influence, Craft said. Boyd admitted in a Sept. 6 interview that he offers recommendations and locations for rental properties to students transferring into the Milton district.
Craft said that was undue influence. “You tell people you have a great community and great programs and that they have a chance to be a part of a great situation, and leave at that,’’ Craft said.
Craft considered these practices to be tryouts to see how players would fit into Boyd’s program. Regarding invitations to players to attend practices or games: “He used those sessions to assess players and comment about their abilities.”
Craft wanted to be clear that the investigation did not find evidence of what Craft called recruiting, which suggests a teacher or coach reached out to a player first.
The GHSA’s Swearngin acknowledged that this was a key distinction.
“Sometimes they go hand-in-hand, and sometimes they don’t,’’ Swearngin said. “Undue influence is what you do to induce or facilitate a transfer even if you didn’t make the initial contact.’’
Boyd saw no wrongdoing with any of it. “I had at least 20 sets of parents contact me with interest in coming to Milton,” he said Tuesday. “They didn’t all come to Milton, but they went somewhere. I don’t know what you’re supposed to do. … I’m disappointed that the players who came on their own to participate aren’t going to be allowed to play in the postseason. I’m very sorry about that. But as far as doing something illegal or unethical, all I’m trying to help kids.”
Social media was mentioned extensively in the investigation, including multiple negative posts by Boyd, when referring to Phillips.
“Make sure to know that Ty Phillips at Roswell started this by crying to his AD that one of his players who lives in our district [and had a choice] came to Milton,” a Sept. 11 post read. “That was a family decision. One thing about it; his record against us is 0-11. Good luck down the road Ty. I am thankful for people like you; you make me realize how much we have done that is good.”
The post has since been deleted.
Phillips declined to elaborate on anything involving the investigation into Boyd.
“My focus is on our team and what’s relevant to our program,’’ Phillips said. “All that other stuff that involves other people is not what we’re focusing on.”
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Dekalb County Guy
October 9th, 2012
1:33 pm
Wow, all the details come out now. Well its not new, using an apt complex as bogus addresses has been going on for years to get athletes eligible to play. But the GHSA is definitely making an example of Milton and this will definitley make some of the other “cheats” think twice about doing this.
SOAAME
October 9th, 2012
1:43 pm
If all of those allegations are true then Milton Boy’s Basketball Team should have to forfiet the 2011-2012 state championship as well. This wasn’t something that just started, this has been going on for a while and it’s not fare to the Schools who follow the rules and regulations ie..Savannah High School. If we are suppose to be upheld to the rules then Savannah High School is your 2011-2012 State Champions in Region AAAAA…not ifs, ands or buts!
Champ_Dad
October 9th, 2012
1:45 pm
Why penalize the kids?
broomcloset
October 9th, 2012
1:47 pm
Schools hve done this for years..#1 Norcross then #2 Wheeler …we just got caught.. easy road to the championship now
bigman1396
October 9th, 2012
1:52 pm
They deserve what they get. Everybody knew something had to have been going on at that time.
Tiger4Life
October 9th, 2012
2:15 pm
The coach lost his job, okay good. But why do the kids that didn’t trasfer have to suffer? All the kids that was going to come are now at different schools #ijs
Metro Coach
October 9th, 2012
2:19 pm
So when does the investigation into Miller Grove’s program start?
gt1975
October 9th, 2012
2:20 pm
It is ok for a student to transfer to a school to enhance their educational resume to get to the better schools; but for an athlete to want better coaching to have a better chance at getting to the next level, the athlete is not allowed to pursue that avenue. Does not seem fair.
Whistleblower
October 9th, 2012
2:20 pm
Ron Link at Athens Christian has been doing the same thing. He likes the Carribean kids like the one they got in trouble with last year. Keep your eye on him.
GHSA
October 9th, 2012
2:24 pm
McEachern Girls Basketball, we’re coming for you next!!
RT
October 9th, 2012
2:24 pm
First, Milton should be ashamed of themselves. They knew exactly what they were getting, David has a long track record for bringing in kids. He brought severak kids in, won a couple of championships and then you turned your back on him like you didn’t know this was going on. If you really want to make a statement take back the state titles.
David did the same think at Berkmar with the apartment complex and bringing kids in. Pretty common knowlege that he had a kid from East Hall and Roswell transfer in and live in the apartments across the street from Berkmar.
Here’s a strange idea…Coach the kids who are in your building. Maybe you will have one or two of those great players in you career and win a state championship the right way. Truly, you don’t have to be a great coach when you have 5 or 6 division 1 players on you team. You may have the rings but you know in you heart you cheated to get them.
Baby boys
October 9th, 2012
2:24 pm
Every school does this.
GBI
October 9th, 2012
2:28 pm
Now that we have that cleared up, on to the next cheater. Buford, I’m looking at you.
logrhd
October 9th, 2012
2:33 pm
i agree with Champ_Dad why penalize the kids
Da Truth
October 9th, 2012
2:35 pm
Buford should be next in every sport!
Eagle Dad
October 9th, 2012
2:36 pm
@GHSA- has McEachern had some new girls move in under questionable circumstances? I don’t think there were any last season- all but one came up through their junior basketball program.
Just Asking
October 9th, 2012
2:37 pm
As a high school coach, this is disturbing. I will never play a non-region game with any school accused of this type of behavior. Region ones are required.
Let the ‘cheaters’ play each other.
K From Da Wood
October 9th, 2012
2:39 pm
Metro Coach…I think Miller Grove is a little different. The kids definitely live in the South Dekalb community, but with so many of the schools being poor performing schools and not meeting AYP, if the students are transfers they are usually legit. If you want to investigate, you should investigate football teams. With that said, no one should be surprised. Most coaches aren’t as actively involved as Boyd, he’s a little extra arrogant if you ask me, but most programs worth their salt have parents and players that keep the pipeline full without the coaches involvement.
steve
October 9th, 2012
2:42 pm
Tift Co. basketball, you’re next.
K From Da Wood
October 9th, 2012
2:42 pm
There was at least one McEachern girl that came from SWD even though her sister went to Alcovy and she herself went to middle school in Newton Co., but stuff like that is overlooked all the time!
I dropped my fried twinkie
October 9th, 2012
2:43 pm
Everybody knew it but nobody did anything about BOYD for years. Look there are not that many black folks living in the Milton district much less 5 or 6 5 star basketball recruits 6′-6″+ tall. Give me a break that it took this long to make the cheating stop.
Tom
October 9th, 2012
2:49 pm
I have a question for all of the people who are saying “Why punish the kids?” How do you suggest the GHSA punish a school that is found in violation of rules in such a manner that the situation does not repeat itself? Simply fining a school will not send a message to the students-athletes. “Punishing the kids” will send a message loudly and clearly. Thank goodness that the GHSA finally has done something about a situation that has obviously been evident for any number of years.
Noneya
October 9th, 2012
3:00 pm
Nothing new under the sun. I did the same thing when I transferred and played at a different high school in the late 90s. It’s funny how the principal and the administration acted as if they didn’t know what was going on. They have access to the records of the guys who were transferring in. They could see that these guys were basically living at the same address. (apt complex)
PDM
October 9th, 2012
3:01 pm
Question: Why punish the kids?
Answer: We sink, we swim, we rise, we fall, we make our fate together ….
That is why.
Heisenberg
October 9th, 2012
3:03 pm
HS kids staying in an apartment by themselves without parent or adult supervision? Who is paying for the rent and meals? Seems like child welfare would want to look into that. Holy crap!
Just a Fan
October 9th, 2012
3:04 pm
Makes you just want to say”to h–l with it all.High school sports have been forever changed over the past few years.The report by GHSA indicating over 6000 athletic transfers in 1 year says it all.These figures do not include the transfers that occur before 9th grade.It is community sports with pride no more in so many areas(mainly metro).
Champ_Dad
October 9th, 2012
3:05 pm
then punish the entire staff.. Are we saying its only Boyd here?
region concession stand worker
October 9th, 2012
3:08 pm
Take ALL his titles from Milton, Berkmar etc…put on big boy Boxers GHSA
jw
October 9th, 2012
3:08 pm
Hey, GHSA – how about clamping down on the metro schools a little bit more – stop waiting for someone to turn in another school – y’all can stop the transfers – do it. Is this a token example of making sure the metro schools play nice and now you go back after the small schools again? It’s a joke that you turn and look the other way while all this garbage happens all over the state – how about fixing the problem and not letting it continue.
No BS, no ‘what if’ stuff from folks, just step up and stop the college like recruiting that goes on – you guys know the dirty coaches – clamp down on them and get rid of them. Eliminate the AAU influence – all AAU does is provide a loophole practice and recruitment system – fix it.
Eagle Dad
October 9th, 2012
3:12 pm
Mceachern girl from SWD is the one who did not come up through the jr program. Word is her mom took a job with Cobb County school system and they moved over there. Maybe you have other information though. Still rare to see that many homegrown on a team that wins a title especially in the highest class.
Resident
October 9th, 2012
3:12 pm
This happens more times than not, the only difference is that this is a public school. GHSA needs to start coming down on the private schools too.
As another poster said ATHENS CHRISTIAN has been doing this for years in a variety of different sports. Can’t afford tuition? Don’t worry about it, we will cover you. A and AA schools can’t compete with these guys because schools like ACS recruit the best players, leaving public schools with the left overs.
GHSA VP
October 9th, 2012
3:13 pm
who should we go after please send us a list
THEX
October 9th, 2012
3:15 pm
Boyd should run for political office-he’d fit right in!
That Guy
October 9th, 2012
3:18 pm
First off, the kids were living in the district and those weren’t bogus addresses. Second, Milton has the highest SAT scores of any school in the metro area. These kids could have gone anywhere to play but instead they came here because Boyde got them into college not only of basketball, but made sure they had the grades too. Most of the people on here are just mad they can’t have athletic programs like Milton.
THEX
October 9th, 2012
3:21 pm
That guy – wrong- that would be Northview High School with the highest SAT, ACT, GPA.
UGA
October 9th, 2012
3:25 pm
That Guy – wrong- that would be Northview High School with the highest SAT, ACT, GPA.
But you keep trying to validate Milton’s actions.
Paul Bryant, JR
October 9th, 2012
3:25 pm
Speaking of adept cheating in athletics….
ROLL TIDE !!!!
Paul Bryant, JR
October 9th, 2012
3:27 pm
If you ain’t cheating to get the very best athletes to come to your school, you sure as [heck] ain’t even trying.
ROLL TIDE !!!!
YeaYea
October 9th, 2012
3:27 pm
Coaches have become quite comfortable with blatant cheating. Zach Smith of North Gwinnett allowed Jerry Stackhouse to enroll his entire AAU/Travel team. He then sat down talented seniors to make spot for Jerry’s 10th grade players. Were it not for Chris Bolden, they would have loss every game last season. Now Chris is gone and the best players transferred out…will Jerry doctor some birth certificates and put some of the Hawks’ bench players on the NG team to support his kids??
North Gwinnett and Zach Smith will do whatever it takes to kiss up to Jerry Stackhouse and his Dekalb County AAU team….our tax dollars at work.
Eagle Dad
October 9th, 2012
3:29 pm
What a crock of crap That Guy. I can actually understand a bit more when a kid transfers to help his chances of playing at the next level. But these kids coming to Milton had offers from MANY schools. A coach at ANY high school can make sure a kid has the grades. It does not matter one bit what the schools SAT average is. You must be Boyd himself, trying to justify. Just stop it.
mike
October 9th, 2012
3:31 pm
I guess those other schools got tired of losing to the schools whose teams look like most NBA teams one way or another. Instead of coaching up just make all kinds of allegations.
OKAY...
October 9th, 2012
3:31 pm
@metro what do you mean investigation into Miller Grove basketball, you think they have not been investigated. (come on 4 straight) oh yeah, can you name a transfer on Miller Grove basketball team in the last 4 yrs, that played a role in the teams success. The kids that were at Miller Grove the last four years started in the 9th grade and remained there until graduation. I can assure you they have been investigated, especially with thier coaches rocky past at Carver. The only way to stop transfers is to make every kid who transfers sit out a year, legit or not. This solves one problem but creates a legal one.
That Guy
October 9th, 2012
3:33 pm
My mistake then and I’m sorry I had my information wrong. But do you really think suggesting places to live in a good community and offering a good future for the kids is wrong?
Hornets for Life
October 9th, 2012
3:34 pm
Take their banner away. Only way Milton could defeat Roswell in anything is by illegally recruiting athletes. What a shame.
LMAO
October 9th, 2012
3:38 pm
Wonder why Columbia BB, Miller Grove BB,Wheeler BB, Norcross BB, Buford FB, Stephenson FB and Grayson FB haven’t been caught yet?
Decaturs_Finest
October 9th, 2012
3:39 pm
All I hear on here is a bunch of whiners. Stop all the crying if a parent feel their child has a better chance of advancing their athletic career by transfering to a school with a great program then they should do it.
That Guy
October 9th, 2012
3:41 pm
Enter your comments here
That Guy
October 9th, 2012
3:41 pm
Horneys for life….Milton won 7 state championships last year, but nice try
Good Googly
October 9th, 2012
3:42 pm
Nothing new. Happens even at younger ages. Take a look at Cherokee County’s Sequoyah Jr Chiefs’ 7th-grade team. Champions last year … headed to championship this year. Why? Because of Cameron … a 7th grader (should be in 8th but held back a year) who was “transferred” with his whole family from Sandy Springs into a rental. Family gets all kinds of assistance and freebies as long as Cameron continues scoring 4-6 touchdowns every game … and he will.
YeaYea
October 9th, 2012
3:44 pm
@Decaturs_Finest As long as there is a legitimate move and contribution to the tax base from which that school draws…I have no issue. In the case of North Gwinnett, the players’ families live in Dekalb and Clayton counties leaving me and the other paying residents of Gwinnett county footing their bill.
Paul Bryant, JR
October 9th, 2012
3:44 pm
Can you guess why Milton High isn’t actively trying to recruit any “student-athletes” from South Fulton, Clayton or SW DeKalb?
GUNGA DIN
October 9th, 2012
3:44 pm
GHSA needs to take a hard look at Buford. lots of this plus grade inflation going one there !!!
Single A
October 9th, 2012
3:45 pm
Blue Storm (Wilikinson County) Dr. Jeter you’re next !
The T
October 9th, 2012
3:45 pm
It’s simple….look at all of the powerhouse programs and you will find that the key players on any team most likely did not attend the middle school programs that feed into those high school programs. Parents make decisions that they think will benefit their children and in many cases paying apartment rent for a few years is a lot cheaper than a full college scholarhip to a great college or university!
Brian
October 9th, 2012
3:49 pm
It was Boyd who has been penalizing the kids….the kids who lived here in Alpharetta/Milton all their lives and never got to play basketball for their high school because Boyd loaded Milton’s teams with out-of-area ringers. It is about time this was stopped. Most of those kids were thugs and never fit in well at Milton anyway. Ty Phillips – Everyone knew he was doing this for years. It calls into question your character that you only acted now, when it involved one of your players. I guess better late than never though.
Other Sports Too!
October 9th, 2012
3:49 pm
While we’re at it . . .how about those soccer teams at Parkview and Brookwood! Something is fishy with those two schools!
Other Sports Too!
October 9th, 2012
3:50 pm
While we’re at it . . . how about those soccer teams at Brookwood and Parkview?! Something is fishy with those two schools!
Dalton's 50+ years of questionable history
October 9th, 2012
3:51 pm
What about Dalton?
THEX
October 9th, 2012
3:54 pm
It’s sad high school athletics has come to this.
But, it’s just a microcosm of our world today-ugh.
qb/db
October 9th, 2012
4:00 pm
I blame the H.S. Assoiciation, they should be sued because this goes on all thje time in football, basketball, baseball, track, tennis even Band. All you don’t be crazy, how does ALABAMA, UGA, AUBURN, OREGON, USC etc. get all those players??? Well I’ll tell you $$$$$ don’t get it twisted. So that is the way it goes but you can’t stop a parent who wants to do better for his kid. It happens academically too. Parents transfer kids to put them in a better academic situation but you want to slam basketball???
Cherokee
October 9th, 2012
4:02 pm
GHSA listen up —- unless the parents can prove they are moving “into” a new district for legitimate reasons(job relocation, monetary reason,etc…) then the new kid should be penalized from participating in any region games for a year. This will stop the moving from district to district to get on a winning team. Personally, I thought this used to be the rule. Not always fair and I’m sure a few kids would get penalized fairly, but overall would stop alot of this and/or prove costly for a “rising star” if he had to sit out for a year. It would give some of these lesser schools a chance to compete as well. It won’t stop the coaches from “cheating” because I doubt they care about the impact a kid experiences from sitting out for a year. They only care about the championship. It will be difficult to manage the coaches, but this problem can be controlled via the kids. They are the ones working on getting scholarships and they cannot afford to sit out for a year.
Stud muffin
October 9th, 2012
4:05 pm
Well then to look into Pope HS wrestling team. They have multiple wrestlers doin the same thing that is going on at Milton.
South Georgia B-ball
October 9th, 2012
4:05 pm
why is everyone saying tift county?
Heisenberg
October 9th, 2012
4:05 pm
Maybe the high schools just build athletic dorms next door to their facilities.
Upsetum
October 9th, 2012
4:06 pm
The man can coach. He won at Campbell when the shorts were nut huggers
David Boyd is a Sleazy Loser
October 9th, 2012
4:08 pm
Boyd has no coaching skills so he had to illegally recruit…congrats and thanks to Ty Phillips for taking the time to get the ball rolling. If Boyd is a fraction of the coach he thinks he is, someone will hire him at a private high school or maybe in college where he can recruit all he wants in a competitive environment.
MiltonFan
October 9th, 2012
4:11 pm
@ SOAAME – Read carefully…GHSA was careful to say that the only allegation came after the 2011-12 championship and the investigation covered activities from after the 2011-12 championship. That’s why the title stays in place (at least for now). There would have to be evidence and a finding of cheating during the prior season to sanction that season.
@RT – Nobody at Milton needs to be ashamed. Both the Principal and AD who hired Boyd are gone. I believe the new leadership at Milton has been waiting for a misstep on Boyd’s part or a complaint with evidence because I think they all suspected but couldn’t prove what was happening with the basketball program. The current Principal and at least the last two ADs have been fine individuals who are not interested in tainted success.
jw
October 9th, 2012
4:11 pm
don’t see how you could be in support of this kind of stuff – sorry, it’s not right and can’t justify it in any way – creating athletic programs that are bigger than the school itself – I’m all for athletics, it has its place – but it can’t be the driving force of the education institution – and in the great state of Georgia, more times than not, athletics drives education at a school. Sorry, that’s wrong. The only benefit is pretty gyms and football fields, deals with the devil that benefit the program, not the school – sorry.
Tell me how one non-athlete gets any benefit from having this stuff go on at their school – moving in players prevents a marginal player from getting an opportunity to play – bringing in personal coaching staffs limit staff hires for qualified teachers – athletic facilities improve at the expense of the moral responsibility of the school and district – thousands and thousands of dollars pumping through athletic booster clubs paying these coaches under the table money – seems perfect for public education – and yes, that’s sarcasm –
It isn’t right.
CHS '72
October 9th, 2012
4:12 pm
Campbell High class of ‘72 will always love David “Hotdog” Boyd. He was the best student, friend, athlete, and teammate anyone could ever have.
Hope he wins 6 more and helps many more deserving kids get to the next level.
Lavell Edwards
October 9th, 2012
4:13 pm
The boundaries for Milton and Roswell changed when Cambridge came on-line. The Roswell player had the option to move to Milton or stay at Roswell. Don’t think it was improper for Boyd to try to get him to come to Milton. But the others appear to be bad behavior on his part.
Metro Ref
October 9th, 2012
4:18 pm
I think GHSA did the right thing about banning them from post season play. If they really wanted to come down hard they can removed the championships for the time period those illegal players played at Milton. I agree that people knew what Boyd was doing and in a sense Boyd felt he was inferior. Its a shame that he couldn’t rely on the talent in the Milton community like a Miller Grove or Columbia. I reffed the preseason game against Milton\ Miller Grove and transfers or not Milton couldn’t compete because they were out played. The basketball talent in the Dekalb area outweighs any of the teams in the North Fulton area. So I can see why Boyd needs to recruit because the talent is just not there at Milton. If he was that good of a coach he could develop and mold the kids into winners. Since he’s not he rather take the easy road.
Rose
October 9th, 2012
4:18 pm
This has always gone on, everywhere. Why now? Who did Milton piss off? And you think that private schools don’t “recruit” – give me a break.
Heisenberg
October 9th, 2012
4:19 pm
“GHSA listen up —- unless the parents can prove they are moving “into” a new district for legitimate reasons”
——————————————
There are more than a few transfers in the state each year. Where does the money come from to add the enforcement staff necessary for all that validation work? Every school system in the state has had budget cuts and are looking at more cuts if the charter amendment passes as money would be re-directed there. The idea sounds good in theory.
Harry Callahan
October 9th, 2012
4:20 pm
“It was Boyd who has been penalizing the kids….the kids who lived here in Alpharetta/Milton all their lives and never got to play basketball for their high school because Boyd loaded Milton’s teams with out-of-area ringers. It is about time this was stopped.”
Thank you. I’m glad at least one person gets it.
Whodat
October 9th, 2012
4:22 pm
It seems like there are a lot of parents on this board with kids that lack athletic ability and are mad! If a kid goes to a school that would increase his chances for success than I don’t see a problem. Let’s not act like it wasn’t the schools decision to hire these coaches that would bring school pride into the gymnasium. If there were more quality coaches out here this would not be a problem!
Uh huh
October 9th, 2012
4:30 pm
True enough. #1 Norcross guy used to be at Tucker in DeKalb. I have proof athletes lived in mailbox centers, IN the mailboxes according to the “official proof of residency”; mailbox number served as apartment number. Also, cheating on standardized tests and grade changing is common. Sad, but the biggest cheaters seem to win the greatest prizes. For what? School systems, public and private, are no different than Washongton, D.C. We have lost our ever-loving minds for the sake of a check in the “W” column. No reason to even consider colleges here.
Shannana
October 9th, 2012
4:31 pm
Why penalize the kids? Some kids may have simply been got caught up in this but somekids were willing to do something they had to know was not right. Natural consequences….the kids need to see that the consequences of cheating usually turn out badly.
I dropped my fried twinkie
October 9th, 2012
4:32 pm
qb/db
October 9th, 2012
4:00 pm
So that is the way it goes but you can’t stop a parent who wants to do better for his kid. It happens academically too. Parents transfer kids to put them in a better academic situation but you want to slam basketball??
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A parent doing if for their child’s academic reasons will make the US as a whole better. What the hell does another NFL or NBA player do for the US. An NBA player probably will not discover a cure for cancer or create a new technology to get the US off foreign oil.
FireBill
October 9th, 2012
4:35 pm
Buford has been doing this for years. Mention Charlton County and it brings fear into them.
AA and A GIRLS
October 9th, 2012
4:40 pm
WHAT about Wesleyan Girls Basketball poor girls in AA dont even have a chance……This year
camille
October 9th, 2012
4:40 pm
GHSA listen up —- unless the parents can prove they are moving “into” a new district for legitimate reasons(job relocation, monetary reason,etc…)
______________________________________________
As an adult and a parent, I don’t have to prove that I am moving for any legitimate reason that would satisfy you or any other person. The reason I give is my reason.
The GHSA does have guidelines surrounding moves and the eligibility of players. If asked, the reason is between the family and the GHSA.
83jacket
October 9th, 2012
4:44 pm
The sister of kid from Roswell who transferred to Milton still goes to Roswell High School. Boyd convince him that if he would not make it to college ball if he played for Roswell. He also insinuated the same thing to the dad of another kid who plays for the Roswell
Who cares?
October 9th, 2012
4:45 pm
Keeps em off the streets
drew
October 9th, 2012
4:49 pm
We’re in the Walton high district. I’d rather never win a championship than have to deal with low life apartment dwelling predator rapper wannabe thugs.
CKT
October 9th, 2012
4:49 pm
THis has been going on for years and not just basketball. We were at the state Cross Country finals over a decade ago and my husband overheard two coached talking about a kid they were recruiting from out of the COUNTRY. Milton just got caught is all.
spider
October 9th, 2012
4:49 pm
when are they going after the youth programs that are cheating/
Smyrna Boy
October 9th, 2012
4:50 pm
If this is the same Coach Boyd that was at Campbell HS in Smyrna back in the late 80’s and early 90’s he has always bent the rules and has gotten away with it. You would think that a coach bending/breaking the rules over 20 years would not get hired. Guess it goes to show everyone that HS administrators talk is more than there walk.
that guy
October 9th, 2012
4:55 pm
Graduated from berkmar in the late 90’s and we had a kid living in the apartments across the street for residency and was one of the best players so this is no surprise to me but on another note when they did win state all the starters played middleschool ball locally so you never know.
Marietta fan
October 9th, 2012
4:59 pm
I knew this was happening as early as 2008. Dai’jon Parker and Jordan Loyd played at Marietta in 2007-2008 as freshmen. The next year they mysteriously moved to Milton and beat us in the playoffs and made the finals as 10th graders losing to Wheeler who does the same thing Milton does
Milton Resident
October 9th, 2012
5:00 pm
Get over it, ever good scholl recruits kids! Ty Phillips is a putz. The AD at Roswell, Mike Power, is also a putz and a horrible judge of baseball talent BTW. Wha wha wha Roswell gets their ash kicked and they go crying to the AD. How embarrassing. I’m glad my kids go to Milton and not Roswell. Also to note, it seems the AD at Milton also has no backbone and is surcoming to the other Milton parents in the Milton district who don’t get to play basketball because they stink. Another life lesson, if you aren’t good enough get better and stop whinning.
Ishts and Giggles
October 9th, 2012
5:01 pm
Getting lots of laughs at the expense of these whinning parents!!! How about you guys get off the couch, go outside and teach your kids how to play ball so that they will be able to COMPETE against the better players….Then, and only then will your sorry a** kids be able to get into the game and not just ride the pine!!!!!!
BasketballKing
October 9th, 2012
5:03 pm
83jacket you are correct, who ever got recruited from Roswell in basketball?
Naismith
October 9th, 2012
5:06 pm
OK, GHSA has really got it right now. The kids at Milton who grew up here, haven’t gotten to play for the past 5 years because of the travelling circus called Milton. Now, the transfers will all leave, and the REAL Milton kids will get to play some, and what does the state association do??????? BAN THEM from postseason play!!!!! Brilliant!!!!!!!! Ban the kids who have had to either sit on the bench or in the stands and now that they actually get to play for their NEIGHBORHOOD school, BAN them!!!!!!!!! UNBE …..well you get the drift.
Ishts and Giggles
October 9th, 2012
5:11 pm
Naismith,
Those kids are GARBAGE anyway!!!! They do not have a chance to win so what difference does it make??? The will never make state anyway!
I know him
October 9th, 2012
5:14 pm
Congratulations to Coach Ty Phillips for doing the GHSA’s job and finally putting an end to Mr. Cheat. Also, I would like to know, what was the principal and the AD doing during this time? I mean come on, as an administrator your going to not notice that all of a sudden, since Mr. Cheat (I will not refer to him as a coach because he is nothing but a cheater) came to Milton, we now have 6 to 7 Division I basketball players. In case the administrators are so dumb, let me give them a little help…the D I players are the 6′6″ + guys that suddenly appeared on your campus…duh!! The GHSAA should wake up and get their head out of the sand and start a enforcement committee to put a stop to the obvious ones like, Norcross, Wheeler, Buford, and the other cheaters out there.
Mr. Cheat says he was just helping kids. How about all the kids that grew up in the Milton district that never got a chance to play basketball for Milton, because of Mr. Cheat and his bringing in nothing but Division I players. Those kids are the ones who got punished because of Mr. Cheat.
The bottom line is that Mr. Cheat was to chicken to play with his own players. Mr. Cheat has done this at three different high schools, and he finally got caught.
The end of Mr. Cheat, thanks Coach Phillips.
Stuart
October 9th, 2012
5:17 pm
While Boyd is not clean in this thing, what was Phillips agenda? Also, a lot of you have pointed out that this stuff happens in other sports in this state and others.
While I love sports and have been involved with high school athletes for a number of years, the whole thing is as disgusting as what happens in the college ranks.
However, there are other worlds where there isn’t total cleanliness.
Guess we continue to enjoy despite the efforts of others to sully it all.
83jacket
October 9th, 2012
5:17 pm
BasketballKing – Its has been a while but the Kessler brothers went to Ga and Scott Pollard went to Auburn. I think, Jody Meeks was at Roswell when he was a freshman but his AAU coach convince his parents to transfer to Norcross.
Troy knows Sports
October 9th, 2012
5:28 pm
Brian, Stevie Wonder saw that Boyd was cheating, and you’re worried about Ty Phillips character. Everyone at Milton knew they were cheating. Go back to winning at Girls Lacrosse, you don’t have to cheat to beat the 6 other rich kid teams.
Bill
October 9th, 2012
5:44 pm
Its amazing he was able to get away with it this long. He did the same thing at Berkmar 10 years ago. He is one quality human being…
Fred
October 9th, 2012
5:53 pm
@Other Sports Too! – Go to Google maps and look at Parkview High School. Do you see the 14 soccer fields for all ages across the street run by the Gwinnett Soccer Association? Don’t you think that might have a little affect on the quality of soccer in the area?
Here, I’ll make it easy for you – https://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF-8&q=parkview+high+school&fb=1&gl=us&hq=parkview+high+school&hnear=parkview+high+school&cid=0,0,13926281959495794986&ei=w5p0UJ2WJ4qA9QSCkIDwDw&ved=0CIABEPwSMAA
Oh'man
October 9th, 2012
5:58 pm
Can someone enlighten me PLEASE! Why would students want to transfer to other high schools for competitive reasons? Is it money, free housing, what is it? I understand why there is college transfers but why is there so many high school transfers?
Naismith
October 9th, 2012
6:05 pm
Ishts and Giggles
I hope you were kidding but if not, U are the problem. Your kind is the problem. This is hs sports, not meant for being a scholarship factory. Whenever GHSA has the b…. to get that idea across, maybe just maybe we can get back to hs sports as they should be…..90-20 scores in basketball is not what it should be about. If every school played with it’s own kids, we could have bb they way it should be in hs.
The real culprit for hs bb= AAU and AAU coaches. Admit it, clean it up, and make the sport good again.
Disgusted with Lassiter's Programs
October 9th, 2012
6:06 pm
GHSA – This has been going on since I was in high school. I wanted to play for the best coach and I ended up going to private school to do so, not paying tuition (they called it financial aid), just because I could play. Is that wrong? Teachers in Cobb are allowed to send their kids to any school in Cobb if they can provide transportation. If a teacher has a superstar athlete, should they be allowed to go to a super athletic school? Too many worms in this can. This is only one situation and I agree that it’s unfortunate that Coach Boyd is being used as a scapegoat. What a screwed up rule i.e. unless GHSA plans to apply this to rule to all schools. If so… Lassiter football should be stripped of any titles they may receive this year. The only difference in Lassiter and Milton is that Lassiter doesn’t have apartments in their district…more money, less scrutiny, and easier to hide the wrong doings. Is this the way we want to bring up our kids? Concentrate on what is important please…Add drug testing to participate in a GHSA sanctioned program and disqualify the students who use, follow Woodward’s lead, that seems much more important!
oldeagle
October 9th, 2012
6:25 pm
All these self righteous Roswell people on here crack me up, they know that their football program was doing the same thing for years and their administration did nothing. It seems like it’s only illegal if someone else is doing it, right!
Bibimc
October 9th, 2012
6:26 pm
Any team that has ever played Milton knew that they were cheats!
In The Know
October 9th, 2012
6:32 pm
Check out Eagles Landing Christian Academy’s football team. Tell me how a single A school can have so many D-1 prospects!
James
October 9th, 2012
6:36 pm
That school has been cheating for years and it is hurting the children. It could be time for their Athletic Department to receive the “death penalty.” That school should get back to focusing on educating children – not teaching them to cheat and rewarding the cheating.
baako
October 9th, 2012
6:42 pm
While I understand that cheating can’t be allowed, I think to punish the KIDS for something the ADULTS did is just as unfair as the act that caused the ruling… forfeit their wins, take away the titles “earned” from cheating, but don’t take away the kids ability to achieve. That’s just my opinion
Old School Smyrna
October 9th, 2012
7:26 pm
Coach Boyd had a few tranfers (Warner and Sherell) on his 1982 Campbell High School State Championship team, Back then we just thought he was one helleva salesman. In 1983 and 84 he made it back to the state finals with 100% home grown talent (all local boys), which included his younger brother who play at Wake Forest, Coach Boyd was and is a great coach and teacher. He always wanted what was best for the kids AND he was a winner…PERIOD! Kids wanted to come play for him because he was a winner..You might as well shut down all the HS sports in GA if you are going to stop coaches from selling their schools and helping kids reach thier goals.
hit a single
October 9th, 2012
7:39 pm
Milton is just the tip of the iceberg!
Big Bull
October 9th, 2012
7:41 pm
The kids should be punished to let them know that this not right. Eventhough they are kids, they knew what they were doing, lets be real. Lets teach them know, right from wrong….
go after more
October 9th, 2012
7:57 pm
Wow! I can’t believe Swearngin did anything.
Spurrier Is Superior
October 9th, 2012
8:06 pm
Wouldn’t it be best to change the rule so that a kid’s family can allow their child to attend any school
who’s district allowed them to transfer anyway?
just thinking out loud
October 9th, 2012
9:20 pm
my guess is that if the GHSA “banned” Milton from the lucrative, glamorous, money making, drive to macon for “post season play” (it aint the chik-fil-a bowl), BUT Boyd was still the coach, the kid/parents would still go their to play, and win and go on to a better future. Fact is Boyd resigned. He is why the kids/parents went there and is why they now are changing their mind. Sounds like some are now another state’s problem. Good job GHSA you are now almost relevant after the fact with the “ban” and $2,500 fine (who pays that by the way ???). those of you who are feeling satisfied by this will continue to be disappointed once your anti-(school name here) buzz wears off. they will not prevent your next disappointment. I don’t know the man, I don’t know any of the kids, and I don’t know any of the parents. just thinking out loud.
It aint just basketball
October 9th, 2012
9:20 pm
The GHSA should immediately begin drug testing ALL high school athletes for HGH as well as narcotics. If found in violation, the athlete should be banned from all high school sports for their entire high school career. So many kids don’t get an opportunity to be on these teams because their class mates cheat and it is not right. These are not 8 year olds; they know full well they are cheating the system.
Greg
October 9th, 2012
9:25 pm
Here we go again double talking – transferring is done all the time for academic reasons – what’s the difference if it’s done for athletics – and it’s not isolated to just basketball or football (it’s been done in soccer, softball, baseball, track, now swimming and lacrosse, and more)….so why the focus on just basketball and football? And again I ask, what’s wrong with it? Sports is a career choice – EVERY sport – it’s not just the NBA, NFL or MLB – there is soccer, boxing, golf, tennis, lacrosse, and many more professional leagues – it’s a job/career – again I ask what’s the difference between transferring for athletics verses academics – btw, if your school fails AYP you can transfer but if your team has not won a game or had a winning season in 3, 5 or even 10 years you can not?
GFY
October 9th, 2012
9:28 pm
Jeeter the Cheater in Wilkinson County is sweating right about now….tell me how in the world would anyone even find Wilkinson County much less transfer in to play basketball from another district. The whole county only has ~10,000 people in it.
Really
October 9th, 2012
9:31 pm
Have some real dumb arses on here complaining about private schools recruiting……cry all you want but it is ok for the private schools to recruit so STFU.
Stu Hasty
October 9th, 2012
9:53 pm
He probably learned to cheat from his High School coach, and thought he too would get away with it…. This has been going on forever, and will continue until the players and their families learn the hard way….
Steve Daniels
October 9th, 2012
9:53 pm
Since Ty Phillips(Current Roswell BB Coach) taddle taled on Boyd, I will be interested if others will do the same now. If they did, the GHSA would have their hands full. But the GHSA doesn’t want that because then it will look like they are not in control of things…….I have yet to see them address this problem. They sit back and wait for people to tell on each other, instead of being proactive.
Milton Student
October 9th, 2012
9:56 pm
I’m a senior at Milton and even the students knew what was going on, it became a joke every time a tall black kid came to school that he was the “new recruit”. The only positive side to this is that Boyd at least made sure the kids had good grades. Milton is one of the most competitive schools in Georgia and Boyd had some of the most strict grade policies of any team I know. Luckily we’ve still got several non recruits that are currently freshman, look out for Chirs Lewis in a few years, the kid got two D-1 offers as an 8th grader!
ok
October 9th, 2012
9:59 pm
I live at Lexington Farm Apartments, which is mentioned in the article. It’s full of very TALL high school kids, and this summer more and more have been trickling in, much to my amazement… NOW I KNOW WHY! The increase in high school kids had been a real pain for our community. They are up all night on weekends making noise and destroying property. The playground, thought for young kids, has turned into a dump, profane writing on the structure and trash and chewing gum everywhere. Thanks Milton High, way to go! This community will go down in no time! Most people I know who have been here for years are on the verge of departing. Me too.
crackbaby
October 9th, 2012
10:29 pm
Pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered. Milton coach was a hog.
Recruiting happens. Enforcement should be more even. Remember when RB Caleb King played his senior year at Greater Atlanta Christian? Just one of THOUSANDS of examples.
What if people in the community do the recruiting? Can GHSA enforce the same rules? Not likely.
livininatl
October 9th, 2012
10:31 pm
The joke is that you folks would not trust the gov to select your car for you yet you are just fine with trusting your children to them. You should be able to choose a school based on what works for your child…vocation..sports..academics,etc..not because u fall within their map and they said so!! Competition breeds excellence…and not just in sports.
Question
October 9th, 2012
10:33 pm
Where is Boyd working now? Is he still married?
marktwain
October 9th, 2012
11:10 pm
SHOCKED the GHSA actually did something for once. SHOCKED an AD actually backed his coach and turned it in for investigation.
Its sad that the GHSA has to wait for a coach to request it get off its butt to investigate something that is obvious to anyone with half a brain. It should never have come to that. ALL this reclassification, private/public single A nonsense, private schools recruit complaining stems from their lack of action. Georgia is currently AAAAAA. I’m not that old and I remember AAA. When will this stop? I suspect Buford is doing things the right way. They win and kids want to go there so they move into the district. Why not? The school is beautiful and their facilities are outstanding. But that doesn’t mean the GHSA should not check on them every once in a while instead of waiting for formal complaints that don’t come unless it is absolutely out of control because a coach and an AD do not want their names or school dragged through the mud. The GHSA takes up HUGE sums of money from high schools and this is the only thing people really care about.
times of changed and not for the best
October 9th, 2012
11:41 pm
It is a shame that we have turned our High School Sports into small College sports. Adults have done that and look at what we got. Kids growing up in there hometown can’t enjoy sports because adults have allowed ego to enter in our Kids life. What a shame all these kids we are moving around may make a big school to play sports for 3 years and some move onto pro ball make millions and be broke after several years. What have we taught our kids.
mos
October 9th, 2012
11:47 pm
How bought if you tranfer you must sit out a season
you dont say
October 10th, 2012
12:11 am
Was Boyd banging other teachers on campus at Milton like he did at Berkmar ?
jess
October 10th, 2012
1:00 am
Coach Boyd was winning state championships 30 years ago. He is an outstanding coach, teacher and friend to all who know him. I changed districts so my kids could be in a school that had an outstanding theatre group. I hope we’re not band from doing plays. That would be horrible.
ben johnson
October 10th, 2012
4:04 am
And investigate Lovett girls basketball. That coach is the biggest recruiter i’ve ever seen. How do you think they won state last year.
BubbaDaBaller
October 10th, 2012
7:24 am
“If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t tryin” appears to have found Dr Naismith’s game…But, it’s only Basketball…this isn’t Indiana…What’s next penalizing schools that have refugees from the sub Sahara region for having good Cross Country teams because they have affordable housing in their area?
Dawgma
October 10th, 2012
7:29 am
About time GHSA enforced a rule. It still took a Roswell parent to do the GHSA’s job. Milton was recruiting for 5 yrs, winning championships for the first time since the 60’s. And did GHSA even look into this amazing improvement – heck no.
Same junk is done all day long in football.
jess
October 10th, 2012
7:32 am
Isn’t one of the first rules of moving is to make sure you’re in a good school district? Wouldn’t a good school be defined differently for everyone?
Concerned
October 10th, 2012
7:53 am
Every single basketball coach in the metro area knew this was going on. Shame on the AD at Roswell for not protecting his BB Coach (Ty Phillips) and making sure his name didn’t get drug in to this mess. All coach Boyd was teaching those kids is how to cheat… those kids will be next in line to work as a cheating teacher in Atlanta Public schools, a cheating/lying cop, a cheating/lying politician and it will continue as the vicious cycle of life. These coaches wouldn’t spend their time recruiting if they had any ounce of faith that they were good at just plain old coaching.
steve
October 10th, 2012
7:58 am
Tift Co. did the same thing this summer by letting TJ Cromer from Westover play with them in summer camps!!!! Where is the investigation into Eric Holland and Tift Co.? Ask the Turner and Wilcox counties coaches about Mr. Holland!!!!
Wrong
October 10th, 2012
7:59 am
@crackbaby
Caleb King transfering to a private school is not the same thing.
billyboy
October 10th, 2012
8:04 am
Looks like everyone wants their fair share! There may be some things done wrong here and at many other schools, I don’t know. However, there are a lot of good things done for some kids. I want to say thanks to Mr. Boyd for what he did for us kids at Milton. It was great that he believed in us kids and gave us a chance to better ourselves. In today’s world, if you judge people like many of you have judged Mr. Boyd, then, you probably should march yourself down to the county jail. I just have one perspective, but, it is one of thanks for the good things done.
JRUNNERB
October 10th, 2012
8:29 am
Some parents are blessed with gifted children (musical, artistic, intelligent). Those parents work 4 or 5 jobs between them to make sure their kids can get to the schools that will best serve their talents; and better guarantee the kids futures. So, what is the difference of parents doing all they can to serve the ATHLETIC talents of their kids? Give me a break GHSA. Let’s be clear. Georgia is a football state, at levels. They look past the corruption that goes on in high school football; but clamp down on all the other sports. It has always been that way. Clean up your house first – GHSA!
Ben Dover
October 10th, 2012
8:38 am
Let’s all first agree, every school has done it. Period. Not just in Basketball but in all the sports, it’s just that it is more noticeable in Basketball because you only need a few players to take an average team and make them a winner. That being said. How much money is involved? I know Boyd, was not just getting his teacher’s pay and calling it a career. Also, South Georgia has been recuiting as long as I can remember. Valdosta, Camden County, have doing it for football, it’s just not an apartment complex but, farm houses. In 1970, our high school in Dekalb Conty owned a home(next to my house, same subdivision) in the district, where our star quarterback lived with his family, until he graduated. The next year, a new black running back’s family moved in. Best of all the car dealership, gave his father a job…Remember this was in 1970, all white Dekalb County High School, with few blacks in the area.
john jones
October 10th, 2012
8:38 am
IF GHSA DID THIS TO MILTON HOW DID THEY LET WHEELER GET AWAY ALL THOSE YEARS THEY DID WHAT WAS CLAIM COACH BOYD DID—–GHSA IS NOT FAIR
Ben Dover
October 10th, 2012
8:40 am
A correction to my post above, The Touchdown Club(Booster) owned the home not the school.
Football Love Jones
October 10th, 2012
8:46 am
@ Eagle Dad
What world are you living in..that much D-1 talent didnt just grow up in Powder Springs.. what the hell are you smoking..
former coach
October 10th, 2012
8:48 am
milton must be a private school. we have been told that only private schools recruit but we all knew milton and some other public schools have been doing this for years and ghsa has ignored it because of the racial component to this issue. it is easy for the union based public schools to blame everything on private schools to keep the heat off themselves. go look at any county system where one program takes off and becomes the dominant school and you will find recruiting going on. about time ghsa do the right thing and go after all schools rather public or private that is recruiting regardless of race or social economical.
Voyceofreason
October 10th, 2012
9:20 am
Let me get this straight: A coach finishes as state runner-up in 1981, wins a state title in 1982, finishes 1983 ranked 3rd – all before “recruiting” was an issue, and in the present day is constantly contacted by parents wanting their kids to play for him – at which point he suggests places they could live if they DID move to his district – then gets these kids into school, monitors their grades closely, gets them scholarships … and this is somehow a BAD thing? Good grief … we need MORE people doing this, not less!
3pointer
October 10th, 2012
10:19 am
1. Why don’t these coaches stick to legally overloading the AAU teams instead of school teams? The true test of a non-professional coach is to win with the local talent.
2. That being said it’s not only the coaches that are “recruiting”, you have parents that live in these same questioned school districts that “assist” in moving, recruiting, tutoring etc these transfers. They want to see their local school win whether their kids is on the team or not. I’ve turned down more under the table offers from parents than coaches for my son. NO THANKS, We’ll stay in our district and win or lose based on local talent.
3. Yes the lore of a better education and recognition might sound over-whelming tempting. But our children’s education and opportunities should not be defined by ONLY what happens in the schools!
CCJBC Coach
October 10th, 2012
10:24 am
@ Football Love Jones
You obviously don’t know Powder Springs. The Hillgrove girls team that McEachern beat in the championship game, home grown talent with great coaching. The Hillgrove boys football team that beat Camden County, home grown talent great coaching. I watched that group of girls from McEachern dominate in Middle School ball. Just keep watching we have more coming.
jb
October 10th, 2012
1:14 pm
The culture is such that parents place tremendous pressure on schools to have programs that allow their student-athlete to obtain athletic scholarsips. Somewhere in this issue everyone needs to realize the reason the individual is in school is to obtain an education that allows them to be a successful, productive citizen. I agree with the individual who said the GHSA has not taken care of the private school issue.
Just Sports
October 10th, 2012
2:42 pm
I will reply to Good Googly…obviously your clueless!! To answer your “Transferred” comment, the Gale’s family moved to the district after Cameron’s mother passed away. Yes, they do rent, as does several family’s on every team. Also, Cameron had never played football before last year, what foresight the coaches must have had to recruit a kid that lived 45 minutes away and had never played the sport, but they went out and offered them all kinds of freebies to come play. Also, we have several families that are scholorshipped that play in the program, why aren’t you calling them out?? Oh, they must not be star players so they don’t count. Lastly if a parent is wanting to put their son in a position of moving him just for sports, do you really think it is going to be Cherokee County??? When is the last time they have ever had a state recognized championship program….NEVER. So if they are letting him get recruited, I would pick a place that has a much richer tradition than Cherokee County football, that no one else in the state even recognizes. Surely Cameron moved to Sequoyah for the great tradition of MS and HS football…the comparison to Milton and other schools with traditon of athletes moving in is uncanny.
That Guy
October 10th, 2012
3:10 pm
For all you people saying Milton’s sports are full of cheats….how about you come visit the school and see how hard the athletes work. And for all those Roswell people complaining, look how many transfers for sports Roswell has compared to Milton. You’ll see Milton has a lot less.
four eyes
October 10th, 2012
7:03 pm
This is the new racisim…Girls lacross gets transfers…more dominant than Boys Basketball has ever been….. guess basketball players are easier to spot.
Milton Family
October 10th, 2012
8:23 pm
Thank you Milton HS for finally taking the trash to the curb where it belongs. Boyd should never have been hired to begin with, but all the people responsible for that are now gone except the over-zealous wack-job parents who think HS sports are the same as college and pro. As Milton residents, our friends and we have been appalled at Boyd’s mere presence and what that says to our children about right and wrong.
Boyd lies consistently but I believe him about this statement he made: He is sorry the kids he enticed to move into the school to supplant Milton area residents in the basketball program cannot play in the postseason. He did not say anything about the Milton area residents who now cannot play in the region or state tournaments. He does not care about those families in the slightest and never has.
Hey Boyd: I know you are reading all this because there is nothing you love more than yourself and people talking about you. Your program not only wasn’t good enough to be rated as high as penny ante, you can’t even spell penny ante! Winning games with illegal players fooled ignorants into thinking you were a good coach. Those wins are worthless, as are you as a coach. Good riddance and rot in hell!
lukylu
October 10th, 2012
8:59 pm
i live in pa. & have a condo in alpharetta,ga. i am 73 and played h.s. football in the late 1950’s – i was recruited to play football way back then – my family moved into the district in my senior yr.we went 1&9 – this practice will go on into the forceable future. i went on to play college ball @ west chester univ. and we where national champs in 1958-59
Why NOT
October 11th, 2012
12:38 pm
Who cares
Why NOT
October 11th, 2012
12:46 pm
If you got a chance to better your High School Career at a different school, why not go!
If you got a chance to play with the best players in the nation, why not go!
If have a chance to play for a winning coach at any level, why not go!
other coaches wish they could have accomplished what Mr. Boyd accomplished. Having the top players in the country wanting to play for you is an accomplishment. It has to say something about you as a coach.
If you as a coach can touch young kids lives and prepare them for the best thats ahead of them then why not! But i must say please do it the right way. Even college coaches break the rules but they get paid extra for winning win they do. what do high school coaches get????
Football Love Jones
October 11th, 2012
1:20 pm
@ CCJBC Coach
I here you coach..lol..I’m watching very close..
Maroon 5
October 11th, 2012
1:29 pm
Everybody does it..even the schools that dont have a history of winning..just look at Cedar Grove in Dekalb..they have a US. Army-All-American who is going to Vanderbilt University who has lived in the Clarkston High School District for the past 4 years..he could have been our QB..this stuff is going to continue to happen..its a win at all cost..
GHSA
October 11th, 2012
3:37 pm
Buford’s next…
GHSA
October 11th, 2012
3:38 pm
They also need to take a look at Milton girls lacrosse…. I’ve heard many transfer stories
Defending McEachern Girls
October 12th, 2012
11:03 am
It’s awfully funny that people will make blanket statements that are not true. Every kid with the exception of one played under the McEachern youth program and won 3 middle school championships together. They win 1 championship out of their 4 years in HS together and now they are looked at as having undue influence but on whom? Get your facts straight before you start throwing rocks!
Community Coaches
October 12th, 2012
11:15 am
Maybe they should go back to the old days where HS had community coaches as head coaches.. people who genuinely cared about the kids but also had the ability and skill set to teach their prospective sports programs instead of these HS teachers who only do this for a stipend to offset their teaching salaries with limited or no knowledge of the sport they coach! Just then maybe people wouldn’t feel compelled to move all over the place to find the best athletic situations possible for them.
TOMMY
October 12th, 2012
1:56 pm
Tell the GHSA to stop by Southwest Dekalb High School and speak with girls basketball coach Kathy Walton about undue influence. Coach Walton is the most notorious undue influencer in the world. Go by and check the addresses of her student athletes and you would see that the great Kathy Walton is the biggest cheater in the nation. David Boyd wouldn’t stand a chance against her.
HATERS ARE OUR MOTIVATORS
October 12th, 2012
2:30 pm
Personally, I think everyone commenting against the whole thing are a bunch of HATERS! First of all, the problem is that the PLAYER nor the COACH makes the final decisions for ANY of these players…its the PARENTS! Hats off to the PARENTS that have taken their players for extra development, spent time, effort, and money to help their player get better, and that have the opportunity to take/move them into a better situation…WHO CAN HATE ON THAT? Get your players skills up, and then you COMPETE-NO MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE/PLAY. Boyd was the vehicle, the PARENTS paid the GAS…My son lives in the Milton district, he could be one of the ones that dont make the team because of players coming into the district…well guess what I would do, find somewhere where he CAN make the team (but I also take him through extra development so it is what it is)…#Miltonisdoingtheirjobs…thatswhywehavehaters!
HATERS ARE OUR MOTIVATORS
October 12th, 2012
2:46 pm
Im with you WHY NOT!!!!!!
HATERS ARE OUR MOTIVATORS
October 12th, 2012
3:02 pm
@Milton Family, I bet your son is one of the ones that didnt make the team because BETTER players came in to the area…So sad. Why is everyone blaming BOYD? AGAIN, its the PARENTS that are making the decision. So what you dont think that “BOYD” cared about the players…thats why they have ADULTS in their lives making decisions for them that DO…I dont know ANY COMPETITIVE program that wouldnt set themselves up to WIN…WHO plays to LOSE, seriously people. Sounds to me like a lot of people are “salty” because their son, neighbor, friends son, nephew, grandson, brother, any other form of MALE HUMAN couldnt make a basketball team! Well, sorry…suck it up…thats life. Most of the players arent going to COLLEGE in the same state, school district either, huh, why is that? They are making a CHOICE to go where they are going to have the BEST opportunity to succeed! Its all about choices…BOYD made the choice to be a winner, to build a winning team…the parents made the choice to move their child into a winning program, and GHSA made the choice to NOT look into it until NOW…hopefully they will make the choice to stay out of PARENTS business..they arent the ones paying for these kids to GO TO COLLEGE, so how are they making decisions on what the PARENTS CHOOSE to do with their kids? #Whosegoingtotransfertoa losingprogram…