Propst says Lowndes coach’s denial of stealing signs is ‘a blatant lie’; GHSA is investigating

Colquitt County head football coach Rush Propst says Lowndes coach Randy McPherson is lying if he denies a conspiracy to steal signs last week in a football game between the two Region 1-AAAAAA schools, the Moultrie Observer is reporting.

Lowndes won the game 17-14. The Georgia High School Association confirmed Thursday that it is investigating allegations that a coach that Propst fired two years ago was using binoculars to watch Colquitt’s sideline and relaying signals to Lowndes’ coaching staff in the press box.

A video shows a man standing in front of the visiting press box and watching the game with binoculars, then apparently communicating with Lowndes’ coaches in the press box. The man alleged to be stealing the signs is Buzz Payne, now part of Thomas County Central’s staff.

“It was a planned act between Lowndes, Buzz Payne and Thomas County Central,” Propst told the Moultrie Observer. “Anywhere, anytime, I will put my hand on a Bible, I know Lowndes and Randy McPherson and I know Thomas County Central, and their administration knew what Buzz Payne was doing.”

McPherson denied the charges earlier this week in an article in the Valdosta Daily Times.

“I have seen the video and I have never seen the man in the video,” McPherson told the Valdosta newspaper. “He is in no way associated with our program. I even asked my coaches if they could hear him — they couldn’t. I can’t help what some fan does in the stands.”

Propst told the newspaper that McPherson is not being truthful.

“What they have said is a blatant lie,” Propst said. “Randy said that he didn’t know Buzz Payne. He knows Buzz Payne as well as he knows me. That is a blatant lie.’’

The GHSA has said that the result of the game will not be overturned. Other penalties might arise if the allegations are proven true.

71 comments Add your comment

some sense

October 5th, 2012
9:25 am

Petty, Petty, Petty.

wardenerd

October 5th, 2012
9:40 am

Once again region one cheating to win. Propst has no credibility and nothing will come of this because region one will agree to anything the GHSA wants to do and vice versa.

oldtimer

October 5th, 2012
9:46 am

Propst must think he still has a TV reality show. Quit crying and move on.

Packerfan

October 5th, 2012
9:47 am

Dang coach, you ever think of changing your signs when you fire a coach? You got beat on the field and in the press box. Get over it and play ball.

battleaxekid

October 5th, 2012
9:57 am

wrong………. got beat by the vikings……. ON THE FIELD…

Baltisraul

October 5th, 2012
10:03 am

Ole Buzz might be the dumbest spy in history. He should call the Cubs, They have been stealing signs from the centerfield scoreboard @Wrigley since Leo Doroucher days. If this story is true, it sends a great message to the players on the Lowndes team; “Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat”!

Smidgen

October 5th, 2012
10:07 am

Talk about penalties arising from this, if the GHSA doesn’t find any evidence of cheating, Rush Propst should be fired. If not, the whole Colquitt County athletic program & administration will lose credibility.

THSGRAD

October 5th, 2012
10:09 am

RUSH WITH HIS HAND ON THE BIBLE! STAY CLEAR AND LOOK OUT FOR THE LIGHTNING!

Columbia Blue Blood

October 5th, 2012
10:09 am

I don’t think this is as silly and petty as everyone is making it out to be. I believe stealing play calls is pretty serious. I think I’d be upset as well. Whether or not it made a difference I don’t know. If you’re not upset by this you might as well hand the opponent your playbook

PMC

October 5th, 2012
10:13 am

Eye Roll. IT’S HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL!!!! GET OVER IT.

Plowboy - Viking

October 5th, 2012
10:17 am

Plowboy - Viking

October 5th, 2012
10:20 am

Coach Propst accusing another team of cheating is the true definition of an…..oxymoron

Packer99

October 5th, 2012
10:24 am

Buzz was a Ranger not a CIA spy. Maybe next game he’ll sky dive in and sack our QB. Regardless Lowndes beat us on the field, lets get over it and play ball. Rush give a rest we got to make the playoffs now.

eli

October 5th, 2012
10:31 am

Propst is the worst human being to ever coach high school football in the state of Ga

Tiger4Life

October 5th, 2012
10:36 am

For the love of high school football O_0

David Granger

October 5th, 2012
10:39 am

Have to admit, I wouldn’t have thought something like that was against the rules.
Where do you draw the line? Can you have someone looking at the other sideline without binoculars and tell you what they’re going to do?

Heisenberg

October 5th, 2012
10:46 am

I watched the video and I gotta say I am hard pressed to come up with any other explanation for what is going on than relaying signals. But even if the signals have not changed, is it not common practice to have 2-3 people giving different signals and only the QB knows which one is real and the others are decoys?

I go to Lassiter games and they hold their signs up on large cutouts instead of hand signals. No binoculars needed. The signs are simple with pictures and initials. Both backup QBs each hold up a different sign every play. Maybe one guy is always real and the other is always fake. Maybe they alternate who is real. Only players & coach know. It is not that complicated.

Buddy Landel

October 5th, 2012
10:57 am

I’m not sure if it’s illegal, but it sure is underhanded, and in my opinion dishonorable. I have no dog in this fight, as I grew up in Vidalia and now live down in Florida. The key is that this guy was apparently a cast-off from the Colquitt program. Sometimes you can pick up patterns of signals and predict what’s coming next. However, if you have prior knowledge of the signals, that’s just wrong.

cat doc

October 5th, 2012
11:02 am

Rush Propst swearing on a bible, if that isn’t slander nothing is. Thats not going to Colquitt’s only lose, they got at least 2 more coming their way.

cat doc

October 5th, 2012
11:06 am

One ? to the colquitt crowd? Why would you ever of hired Propst to come to your school as a coach? The man is not good. Thats all I have to say.

some sense

October 5th, 2012
11:40 am

Think they’ve figured out at Lowndes yet what a, uh, miscreant Greg Reid is?

coach13

October 5th, 2012
11:49 am

Every team new what Florida was going to do the majority of the time. They still couldn’t stop Tebow. Execute your assignments and it won’t matter.

Buddy Landel

October 5th, 2012
11:53 am

not necessarily. If you know where a blitz is coming from, you know where to go with the ball. There are many, many advantages to “being in the other team’s huddle”.

fan

October 5th, 2012
12:14 pm

The film didn’t lie..Buzz was give info to coaches…Now its up to Dr. Swearinger to do his job are get off the pot. This is not a Packer are Viking thing..this is being fair and truthful to the kids that play this game. Buzz is Lucky for if that had been my team–Mr Buzz would have got a A@@ beating not from school but ?*.
Cheating is cheating is that what you teach your kids..

JJ

October 5th, 2012
12:33 pm

Some of u people need to get a life. When did cheating become ok?
The Packer’s coach is not crying–he is taking up for his player. Just what he should do. If you wondering I’m a North Cobb fan.

Baltisraul

October 5th, 2012
12:39 pm

cat doc…….if you swear on the bible, whom do you slander? There are so many names in the bible. You must be more specific. If it were me I would pick Romulus & Rhemus.

Graydog

October 5th, 2012
12:39 pm

Tain’t no cheatin going on. Lowndes was just watchin to make sho none dem 5th year Alabama Hoover boys sneaked onto the field. Probst is pure as december snow, whatever that is.

cdog

October 5th, 2012
12:40 pm

whats the big deal? as a coach, you have to do something to hide from the other team stealing your signals.if they let their signs get stolen, thats their fault.i would do everything to gaining an advantage on my opponent as long as no one gets hurt physically

Coach

October 5th, 2012
1:14 pm

The problem is in the code of ethics that all coaches are to abide by. With Payne working for another school board (football program), he is not allowed to steal signs and give them to Lowndes. Supposedly all he could tell them was if it was a run or a pass which would give them an advantage.

ron

October 5th, 2012
1:14 pm

I thought stealing signs was part of the game or gamemanship.

robert

October 5th, 2012
1:17 pm

Propst must have done something really bad to this coach to think he would do this to get back at him. Makes u go umm. Propst’s actions say more about his thinking toward football than those he accuses. Only someone who himself is looking to gain any advantage over his oponent might be so paranoid to be looking

bksmith14

October 5th, 2012
1:19 pm

Propst is now accusing grayson of cheating as well……….not just lowndes…….stand back people…this could get really intersting before its over……rush is auditioning for his new high school football reality tv show……..its called ” Hollywood Packers”

i for one feel that when this is all said and done that it will be nothing more than Buzz Payne is found guilty of trying to get into the mind and head of rush which he acopmplished

There is a diff in knowing someone and actually “knowing” someone

randy may have heard of or know the name buzz payne as in him being a coach but he may not know him personally …….he may have never talked with him

Oldschool Hawg

October 5th, 2012
1:20 pm

Once again when Colquitt County brings a legitimate concern forward everybody trashes us…so be it. We never claimed that the sign-stealing is what beat us, we know we got beat on the field. Lowndes had a better game-plan…what everyone fails to see or they overlook on purpose is that the kids are the victims. Colquitt and Lowndes kids both!!! Because of Buzz Payne’s blatant hatred for Coach Propst!!! He has put his own school in question along with Lowndes…regardless of their involvement or not.

bksmith14

October 5th, 2012
1:21 pm

i along with many others hope that rush propst is gone soon………he has done nothing but cause a bunch of stink and drama since he was hired ………..this man loves the spotlight……..you ought to have heard what he said about lowndes on th eplowndes pregame radio show

robert

October 5th, 2012
1:21 pm

Sorry hit send before i finished. Opponent might be so paranoid to be looking for someone in the stands with binoculars and thinking they are looking at more than the game.

Oldschool Hawg

October 5th, 2012
1:34 pm

For your information the coaches were not the ones to spot Buzz Payne in the stands. It was Colquitt County staff that was working on the visitors side.

kriddi73

October 5th, 2012
1:35 pm

I didn’t see any comment that questions why Rush was still using the same signs as he did 2 years ago.

Rush needs to man up, pick a QB, have a Coke, a smile, and shut the heck up!

BRYANT

October 5th, 2012
1:42 pm

Now how many wives did Rush Propst have at the same time? It takes a cheater to know a cheater.

eli

October 5th, 2012
1:45 pm

Propst is a Steve Spurrier of high school a baby

Plowboy - Viking

October 5th, 2012
1:57 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kHfTdProZY …… And Colquitt county likes this guy, he told the TCC staff to F off after the 2010 game, when asked if they would like to pray in the middle of the field, controversy follows this guy everywhere

Plowboy - Viking

October 5th, 2012
1:58 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqV0JzVkdyE …..according to this he has the best team he’s ever coached…..watch and enjoy the over indulgence

dougmo2

October 5th, 2012
2:22 pm

If you’re not cheating, you’re not trying.

Colquitt Supporter

October 5th, 2012
2:27 pm

@Smidgen – agree. Should be interesting to see how the investigation shakes out. Potentially no winner in this.

@THSGRAD – Lets hope the hand does not go on the Bible on December 21, 2012 (the end according to the Mayan calendar)

camden

October 5th, 2012
2:30 pm

Sooo…. Propst is constantly bad mouthed about his ethics.Lowndes cheated and all they want to talk about is their high ethical standards.. ..what a joke…. that is laughable!!!!!

Tommy Trojan

October 5th, 2012
2:42 pm

I always wondered how Colquitt was able to beat Lassiter in ‘09, when we had the best high school team in history, led by the great Mason Hudson. Well, turns out Coach Lindsy used to work with Propst in Alabama! Colquitt had to be stealing our signals. How else would they know where Mason was going to throw the ball??? I hope the GHSA will investigate this thievery as well!

alphadog

October 5th, 2012
2:47 pm

Teams from high school to college to the pros use decoy signs because its common practice for the opposing team to “observe” the signals given. The only issue here is employing a former coach from the opposition and place him outside the press box. My team had to change play signals this year because a player transferred to our region rivals. Its part of football.

yo

October 5th, 2012
2:48 pm

camden you disapoint me. I believe this is being investigated but good thing you aren’t the investigater. You are to noose happy to learn the truth.

VikingFan

October 5th, 2012
3:04 pm

@Tommy Trojan Report it

Rush Popst is known as a cheater! He changed football players grades so they can be elgible to play and also cheated on his wife

JJ

October 5th, 2012
3:09 pm

eli, you will never be the man Propst and Spurrier are. Some little HS kid using different names.

Tommy Trojan

October 5th, 2012
3:13 pm

Check out the Mason Hudson stats – threw for over 4000 yds, 74% completion percentage, 5 INTs all year, then throws 4 INTs vs. Colquit in one game? Come on! Propst must have known where the the ball was going.