What we learned from Week 6 in AAAAAA: Camden is a worthy No. 1 … Parkview is back … Lowndes is legit
Five things we learned this week –
- Parkview is the front-runner in Region 8 – Beating reigning state champion Grayson on Sept. 14 was the season’s biggest upset. Beating Archer on Sept. 21 avenged a 40-16 loss from last season. But beating arch-rival Brookwood 21-14 on Sept. 28 officially stamped Parkview as ‘’back’’ and the team to beat in Region 8. Chris Carson rushed for 257 yards and two touchdowns. Parkview – state champion in 1997, 2000, 2001 and 2002 – has not won a region title since 2004. Until Parkview beat Brookwood on Friday, many felt Grayson would still win Region 8 by winning its remaining games. Now, Parkview would need to lose twice. Not likely now.
- Camden County is a worthy No. 1 team – If anyone thought Camden was ranked No. 1 by default after 2011 champion Grayson was upended by Parkview, the Wildcats showed otherwise Friday, routing Valdosta 43-6. It was Valdosta’s most lopsided in its historic Bazemore-Hyder Stadium since 1974, when Thomasville, led by a pretty good back named William Andrews, defeated the ‘Cats 40-0. This was Camden’s first game in Region 1 after years of dominating weak 3-AAAAA. Make that 87 straight region victories for Camden. AJC Super 11 halfback/cornerback J.J. Green ran the opening kickoff back for the first of his two touchdowns. He also had two interceptions.
- Lowndes deserved its Top 10 ranking – Lowndes had been ranked No. 4 largely on tradition. The Vikings were 4-0, but against what the computer Maxwell Ratings described as the fifth-weakest schedule in AAAAAA. They looked pretty good Friday in beating No. 8-ranked Colquitt County 17-14 in Moultrie. Lowndes used a long punt-return touchdown by Tijuan Lang to take a 17-7 lead in the fourth quarter and held on. It appears that Lowndes and Camden are the teams to beat in Region 1. They play until Nov. 2, the final Friday of the regular season.
- Norcross can take care of business – Third-ranked Norcross won a shootout with Mill Creek, 49-41. Norcross is seeking its first region title since 2008, and the coast is almost clear. The Blue Devils’ 5-0 start includes wins over 2011 region champ North Gwinnett, 10th-ranked Parkview and a Mill Creek team that entered 3-1. The second half is not so tough – on paper.
- North Cobb can take care of business, too – Sixth-ranked North Cobb is 4-0 for the first time since 2007, a season in which it briefly was ranked No. 1. The Warriors routed 3-1 Harrison 48-14. The title in Region 4 is far from decided, but North Cobb’s 49-14 rout of 2011 Walton a few weeks ago is looking more legitimate each week. North Cobb is averaging 48 points per game.
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Camden74
September 30th, 2012
3:26 pm
bksmith14…..Do you do lottery numbers too?
Steve Daniels
September 30th, 2012
4:08 pm
Just wanted to remind Grayson fans that just because your more talented, doesn’t mean your going to win. Fans every where should now appreciate how Milton basketball went 31-1 last year and the year before how hard it was being number 1 in the country. At least, Milton still won their region…..
bksmith14
September 30th, 2012
4:52 pm
wildhawg……..anyone on here can debate me anytime they want to……i will be wrong sometimes but not to often………camden will be good next year…they are every year………but they will take a step back bc they have not had a qb like brice ramsey prob ever and jj green is prob the best if not one of the best backs they have ever had………i can name others…….but losing these two players …especially brice ramsey is going to hurt them next year…….yoiu will see…….copy and paste this and save it on your computer and next year you can get on here and tell me i was right…………
ramsey does so much….kicks all kickoff in endzone….kicks fgs when needed…….and is a great passer……
i never said camden would not be any good next year……..they will be good ….but next years camden team is NOT going to be as good as the team they have this year……..that does not mean they will not compte for region and not make playoffs next year bc they will…..i am just satying that with ramsey and green….this is prob their best chance to win state since the last time they did
bksmith14
September 30th, 2012
4:56 pm
wildhawg….lowndes has Never Had a qb as good as ramsey………bc of the tyoe of offense we run ……the year after reid left we were just as good if not better bc passing was never hardly a part of what we did…….ramsey is a huge part in what camden does with his passing game………he adds another weapon to camdens offense beside the wing t that they run just as well as lowndes does……..
if not for ramsey……….i feel lowndes would beat camden with no problem this year when we play them………but bc of him…..i give them the edge,,,,he is that good
John In Jacksonville
September 30th, 2012
6:13 pm
I am a Lowndes graduate and I come to the Atlanta paper to read up on Lowndes. Got to say I am kind of amused that everyone else from South Georgia appears to be in here too, it sounds like a South Georgia chat board. The AJC staff must surely be aware that they aren’t strictly a North Georgia paper, not running on the internet – it doesn’t matter where the reader lives if you are covering something of interest to him/her. Granted there were two major games in 1-AAAAAA Friday night, still, when the AJC covers south Georgia teams, a lot of people outside Atlanta appreciate it.
Camden74
September 30th, 2012
7:19 pm
bksmith14…….Where are you getting your information about what Camden will have next season? As I stated previously, I hope ALL of Region 1 is thinking JUST LIKE YOU!
Region 1AAAAAA
September 30th, 2012
7:54 pm
TO ALL THE VALDOSTA WILDCAT FANS, I HAVE THE QUESTION THAT EVERY POLITICIAN IN AMERICA IS ASKING:
ARE YOU BETTER OFF NOW THAN YOU WERE 4YRS AGO?
bksmith14
September 30th, 2012
7:59 pm
camden74…talk back at me next year….unless you got a qb who can come in and do the things that ramsey does….then you just dont get better…….lsoing jj green will be huge also both on offense and defense……..dont read to much into me saying this……..you guys will still be good…..and prob a contender for the region and state…but you dont get better after losing a guy like ramsey and green……that is common sense
fan
September 30th, 2012
8:49 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnSFA5Orh6g
Check this out thomas county central coach wearing lowndes shirt (ex packer coach)
in front of the lowndes press box with binoculars talking to them in the press box 1+1=2
YOU BE THE JUDGE!!!
topper
September 30th, 2012
9:40 pm
Bksmith14- I hate to say it but I see what you’re saying, losing athletes of jj or Brice or Jarrad Davis who had a monster game the other night is going to be a challenge.
Colquitt Fan
September 30th, 2012
9:54 pm
Not making excuses bc we lost, but the video clearly shows Lowndes stealing signals. What a way to win a game
onewhoknows
September 30th, 2012
10:50 pm
@ Todd. There’s a coaching scandal erupting at Lowndes. Former Colquitt County assistant and current Thomas County Central assistant coach Buzz Payne is caught on video allegedley using binoculars staealing plays and conferring with Lowndes coaching staff in the press box. How ethical is this? Thought you might want to be aware. A NBC affiliate is investigating and is going to break it tomorrow.
TCC’S Bill Shaver has distanced himself on Saturday:
http://timesenterprise.com/sports/x325753408/Shaver-responds-to-Propsts-accusations
Here is a video that was posted today:
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnSFA5Orh6g&feature=youtu.be
GoPackGo
September 30th, 2012
11:27 pm
Former Colquitt Coach Buzz Payne giving the plays to the Lowndes coaches in the press box to send down to the field. You heard it here first. Wow!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnSFA5Orh6g&feature=youtu.be
GoPackGo
September 30th, 2012
11:51 pm
I think we learned that Lowndes may need some (*) by their championships in the past. They cheat. Period.
LostYouLost
October 1st, 2012
12:07 am
A bunch of excuse makers and crybabies! Can anybody take a loss anymore?
GoPackGo
October 1st, 2012
12:11 am
Absolutely. North Gwinnett beat us fair and square. No excuses. Lowndes did not. More video to come soon.
GoPackGo
October 1st, 2012
12:16 am
I honestly don’t care about the win or loss. The kids at Lowndes and Colquitt County deserve better from adults. Lowndes doesn’t deserve to have their program tarnished over something stupid like that. It’s not fair to the kids.
57Cat
October 1st, 2012
12:36 am
@Region 1-AAAAAA. Yes, we are better off than we were four years ago. Coach Gillespie has put in place a system that will provide a feeder system of teams that will learn his scheme from the 6th grade up. It will take some time for that to bear full fruition, but it will come. Remember, it took Coach Hyder 7 years before he won his first State Championship at Valdosta. There will be bumps. In the road, but he deserves our patience. You can bank on one sure thing: there will be no unethical practices in the program.
colquittcountyhawg
October 1st, 2012
12:45 am
video on youtube sure looks like a tcchs coach stealing signals for lowndes
bksmith14
October 1st, 2012
1:38 am
let all the details about thie video and everything involved come out b4 any judgements are mad…..
i have heard from a fairly reliable source that all this was set up so colquitt would have an excuse if they lost the game as well……..propst has a history of cheating……….
Camden74
October 1st, 2012
4:34 am
The video doesn’t prove anything. There has to be more evidence in order to prove the guy was actually stealing signals.
Camden74
October 1st, 2012
4:43 am
bksmith14……What if Brice is replaced by a QB who can run and pass? If you saw the game the other night or any of Camden’s other games, you’d notice that there’s damage being done by more than just J.J. and Brice. Not saying that losing these two won’t hurt, because it probably will. But there are other players coming up waiting for the chance! Camden’s last two titles were won by first year starters at QB! My concern is ALWAYS on defense first……..That’s where J.J. will be missed, but someone else will step up!
Colquitt Fan
October 1st, 2012
7:31 am
You can’t be serious bk. we set it up? I’ve heard it all now. No way for Lowndes to spin this. I find it funny that Lowndes are the ones accusing rush of all this stuff while they cheat to win and have a QB that has played at three different school. Hypocrites
Colquitt Fan
October 1st, 2012
8:03 am
74: he clearly shows the defensive guys pass at about 30 seconds and shows signals towards the end. Do you not see that? It’s a former coach that is at his 3rd school in three years. He was fired from Colquitt and Valdosta
Colquitt Supporter
October 1st, 2012
9:26 am
BK, really we set it up? We put a guy in a Lowndes shirt with binoculars under your press box. Your coaches are not that stupid. And I doubt you are either.
With that said, I do believe if Probst or any of us have issues, we should contact someone who can do something about it. Both teams played a hard game. Lowndes scored more points, and for that they deserve the win.
For anyone. if the sign stealing occurred as suggested, does it break rules? If the guy in what appears to be a Lowndes shirt is a coach from another team, does that break rules?
GoPackGo
October 1st, 2012
9:53 am
It’s cheating in the NFL. Ask the New England Patriots. The Lowndes Vikings gave all of the TCC coaches side line passes. So how did the Packers set it up? It’s quite obvious that Lowndes knew something about it as well. Sideline passes were given out. You can’t lie your way out of that bksmith14. The TCC coaches have admitted to that!!!!
Just Rammin
October 1st, 2012
11:24 am
@ Steve Daniels
What a profound statement. I have never seen any team win any game on paper. I believe Grayson as well as any team would take 2nd in the region and a State Championship any day. Bottom line the State Championship is the GOAL!
Just Rammin
October 1st, 2012
1:05 pm
Who is shooting the video of the Lowndes coaches in the press box?
AVikingFAN
October 1st, 2012
1:36 pm
In reference to “Video Gate”, if when watching the video, you count 5 people to the left of Buzz Payne (to his right, but left when looking at the video) and you will see me. I too was sitting/standing on the top row of the visitor’s stands and in front of the Crows Nest (Visitors Press Box). There is a thick plexiglass window that seals that part of the press box from fan noise and chatter where the coaches sit. I personally tried talking to them several times but they could not hear me through the plexiglass. I seriously doubt they could hear Buzz Payne either.
Ed Hooper, Sports Editor of the Valdosta Times was standing behind the Lowndes coaches in the Crows Nest. He had been denied entry to the main press box on the home side of the field (That’s true but I still can’t believe it!!! Oh well, that’s Colquitt County for you!!!!!!) Ed Hooper stated he did not hear any exchange of information or any tipoff about plays, etc, stolen from Colquitt’s cry baby Rush Propst by Buzz Payne to any Lowndes coaches.
When watching the video, look to the right of and just behind Buzz Payne and see a man in a black Colquitt shirt with khaki trousers. He was in charge of admission to the Crows Nest, which implies he has some degree of administrative authority. He could hear everything Buzz said. Ask him if there was any “stealing of signals.”
In Rush Propst’s pregame radio interview with station 99.5, he said Colquitt was more physical than Lowndes. I wonder if he thinks so now. In Propst’s post game radio show on 93.9 he said he was upset with his own school administration and would be in his Superintendant’s office at 8am Monday. I heard it, and when I saw Bob Jones, Principal of Colquitt High School after the game, I mentioned it to him. He said the Supt was with him when Propst ranted about some Thomasville Central coaches on the Lowndes “sideline”, and “wanted them removed”, but neither of them saw or could find any TCC coaches on the field. Another CC administrator told me jokingly as I walked out the gate that “we may send Propst down to Lowndes to Coach with ya’ll the rest of the year.” I politely told him we didn’t want a man like Propst at any of our schools.
The truth about the whole thing is Buzz Payne dispises RP. Donning an Alabama shirt and standing in front of the Crows Nest with binoculars was his way of getting into RP’s head. Apparently it worked. Propst lost control during and AFTER the game.
I hope this honest information helps clear up the confusion about this unfortunate incident.
AVikingFAN
October 1st, 2012
1:47 pm
Colquitt Fan and Go Pack Go — Ask your own school principal if there were any TCC coaches on the Lowndes sidelines. The guy standing near me with the binoculars, Buzz Payne, was wearing an Alabama shirt, not a Lowndes shirt. I’m certain the TCC coaches spent Friday night concentrating on their upcoming opponents, not on a team they had already played.
Get over it and move on. Your team IS TOO GOOD for you fans to be carrying on like this.
Camden74
October 1st, 2012
1:50 pm
Colquitt Fan……We don’t know what was being said, does anyone have an audio recording of what’s being said? Right now, it’s all assumptions.
D-Nice
October 1st, 2012
1:58 pm
@BKSMITH14, Some of the statements you’ve made about Camden I truely agree. But taking a step back next year? Not at all. They have a stable of running backs coming back next year. We have a freshman that is a JJ clone, the only reason he isnt playing more is because JJ is still here,lol. We have a back up kicker that puts the ball deep into the end zone everytime, just like Ramsy. Now our passing game may suffer a little but I like the way the team looks for years to come.
Colquitt Fan
October 1st, 2012
2:03 pm
Viking fan, what about the tville article listed above where the coach admits he and singetary( another former coach) were on the sideline bc Lowndes coaches gave them field passes. You look stupid when you don’t know what you’re talking about.
No audio since it was across the stadium with 10,000 people there screaming. How is it not obvious he’s giving them signals. Speaking about crybabies Viking, wasn’t it McPherson that went to Atl to complain about Rush cheating and the GHSA laughed him out of the building? Also that rush recruits players but yet y’all’s QB has played at 3 different high school. Hypocrites, or do the rules not apply to Lowndes? There is supposedly more video coming though. He blatantly gave two signals to the press box in a 50 second video, imagin what the cheater done in a while game
Colquitt Supporter
October 1st, 2012
2:06 pm
AVikingFAN, Thanks for the report.
Around 37 seconds in the video(which is poor quality) it does appear that BP made eye contact with someone in the press box and possibly gave a sign with his right arm over his chest. Could be coincidence, I do not know. But if he did this just to piss off RP and exchanged no info, he did a hell of a job at getting into RP’s head which I find amusing. You are definitely right about RP losing control after the game.
I thought the article in the T’ville paper was pretty good. I have no issues with the TCC haed coach being at the game and whereever they were. Also, I have known Mike Singletary for 10+ years and know that he has too much integrity to be involved with something like this.
Great win by you guys, maybe we will meet again in the semis or the final!
AVikingFAN
October 1st, 2012
2:08 pm
Colquitt Fan, speaking of not knowing what you’re talking about, why would McPherson go to Atlanta to complain to the GHSA when they’re located in Thomaston, GA? Besides, would you please explain your charges about McPherson “protesting”.
Colquitt Fan
October 1st, 2012
2:17 pm
Viking fan, what about the tville article listed above where the coach admits he and singetary( another former coach) were on the sideline bc Lowndes coaches gave them field passes. You look stupid when you don’t know what you’re talking about.
No audio since it was across the stadium with 10,000 people there screaming. How is it not obvious he’s giving them signals. Speaking about crybabies Viking, wasn’t it McPherson that went to Atl to complain about Rush cheating and the GHSA laughed him out of the building? Also that rush recruits players but yet y’all’s QB has played at 3 different high school. Hypocrites, or do the rules not apply to Lowndes? There is supposedly more video coming though. He blatantly gave two signals to the press box in a 50 second video, imagin what the cheater done in a while game.
Colquitt Fan
October 1st, 2012
2:19 pm
Please stop. Every knows McPherson was ticked bc he got run out the stadium last year. And what about the transfer QB, it’s ok for Lowndes to do it but y’all call rush a cheater
Colquitt Fan
October 1st, 2012
2:24 pm
And I’m still curious as to why Lowndes would give TCC coaches field passes
AVikingFAN
October 1st, 2012
2:34 pm
Read the Thomasville, GA newspaper and the interview with the TCC head coach. It explains all!
AVikingFAN
October 1st, 2012
2:40 pm
The TCC head coach, his Superintendent and Principal were standing in the far corner of the endzone, with the Colquitt principal,and the Lowndes Superintendent, who is close friends with the TCC head coach, talking. They were not stealing signals and not standing on the Lowndes sidelines as charged by Coach RP.
Colquitt Fan
October 1st, 2012
3:08 pm
I read it, he also sai he’s not accountable for what buzz Payne does. I read it, remember i told you to read it after you said none of them were on the Lowndes sidelines. I’m not down playing Lowndes as a team bc they played a great game. I’m just questioning the Lowndes and TCC coaches bc they’ve both made their hate for rush public.
Colquitt Fan
October 1st, 2012
3:20 pm
This is really about buzz Payne cheating though, not those other guys. Even though Lowndes has no business giving away field passes at our home game. Lets break it down like this though; buzz was one of our assistants, we know that. Was he an assistant last year at Valdosta w some of your now defensive coaches? Why is he at our game sitting directly in front of your coaches in the box while on video giving them plays? Why is he not with the rest of TCC coaches on the sidelines w passes that were graciously given to them by Lowndes coaches like the game was in Valdosta?
VIKING DAD
October 1st, 2012
3:21 pm
If the guy with the binoculars was a former Colquitt coach, now TCC coach and he knew Colquitt’s plays, then how did Colquitt beat TCC? Sounds like Propst can’t accept the fact that the better team won.
VIKING DAD
October 1st, 2012
3:23 pm
Colquitt would be better off if they got rid of the CRY BABY PROPST.
Colquitt Fan
October 1st, 2012
3:35 pm
Ol randy is just intimidated by him. He’s finally got some comp in the region. They spoke on the radio about McPherson bein the one who tried to tell on Propst. Again I’m not taking away from the kids bc they played great. But if you don’t think it was shady, then you’re just a blind homer. And central did give us all we could handle. Also you still avoided my question numerous times about y’all’s QB bein at his 3rd school but yet rush catches all the heat for transfers. You also don’t answer any of my previous posts about buzz and his previous gigs and his buddies now at lowndes
Coach madden
October 1st, 2012
3:48 pm
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VIKING DAD
October 1st, 2012
3:53 pm
Why would anyone be intimadated of that clown Colquitt has for a coach.
Colquitt Fan
October 1st, 2012
4:02 pm
Maybe bc you barely squeaked by us Friday in a controversial game and we blew the doors off Lowndes last year and made it farther in the playoffs the last 3 years. Do I need to name anymore?
nukieie
October 1st, 2012
4:10 pm
@”Colquitt Fan” Give it a rest, if Protst feels that it is a vilation then he should make a formal complaint. Otherwise it is just speculation. @everyone else if you keep responding andpoking an angry “PIG” nothing get settled.
Colquitt Fan
October 1st, 2012
4:17 pm
This is a message board and were talking about a game. Is that not what this is for? And how is it speculation where’s there’s video proof. I’ve not given the Lowndes players there props not once. You just get tired of people accusing Propst of things that they do themselves. A Lowndes fan has not answered my question yet about their QB being at his 3rd high school but yet Rush is the cheater.