Maxwell Ratings: Lopsided win boosts Northside-WR to #2 in all-class poll

Nothing drastic to report in this week’s Maxwell Ratings. Northside-Warner Robins jumped two spots to No. 2 after a 45-7 victory over previous No. 25 Flowery Branch.

Each week, AJC.com will publish the Maxwell Ratings to give fans a computerized look at how Georgia’s 412 football-playing teams rank in each class and in all classifications.

The Maxwell Ratings uses only historical scores. Personnel changes from season to season are not considered. As a result, early-season rankings expresses a confidence level in each team based on recent seasons.

As the season progresses, the rankings will rely more and more on this season’s results and less on previous seasons. By the playoffs, the rankings will reflect 2012 results entirely.

All-classification rankings:

1 Grayson (97.34)
2 Northside (Warner Robins) (95.3)
3 North Gwinnett (93.4)
4 Buford (93.34)
5 Tucker (91.87)
6 Camden County (91.5)
7 Walton (90.4)
8 Calhoun (89.04)
9 Lowndes (88.89)
10 Colquitt County (87.38)
11 Sandy Creek (86.38)
12 M.L. King (83.9)
13 Kell (83.65)
14 Norcross (83.63)
15 Stephenson (82.67)
16 Lassiter (82.28)
17 Carver (Columbus) (82.12)
18 McEachern (82.05)
19 Valdosta (81.48)
20 Brookwood (81.31)
21 Peach County (81.23)
22 Carrollton (80.35)
23 Marist (79.96)
24 Mill Creek (79.83)
25 Cairo (79.79)

Class AAAAAA

1 Grayson (97.34)
2 North Gwinnett (93.4)
3 Camden County (91.5)
4 Walton (90.4)
5 Lowndes (88.89)
6 Colquitt County (87.38)
7 Norcross (83.63)
8 Lassiter (82.28)
9 McEachern (82.05)
10 Valdosta (81.48)
11 Brookwood (81.31)
12 Mill Creek (79.83)
13 Coffee (79.02)
14 West Forsyth (78.44)
15 Newnan (77.61)
16 Lovejoy (77.32)
17 Hillgrove (75.93)
18 East Coweta (75.48)
19 Peachtree Ridge (75.28)
20 Parkview (74.83)
21 Chattahoochee (72.68)
22 Dacula (72.67)
23 Marietta (71.61)
24 Johns Creek (70.84)
25 Lambert (70.2)
26 North Cobb (70.06)
27 Roswell (69.93)
28 Etowah (69.76)
29 Collins Hill (69.34)
30 South Gwinnett (69.28)
31 Central Gwinnett (68.41)
32 South Cobb (67.39)
33 Milton (67.03)
34 Harrison (66.28)
35 Brunswick (66.18)
36 Alpharetta (64.67)
37 Archer (63.18)
38 Newton (61.26)
39 Tift County (60.36)
40 Woodstock (60.24)
41 Douglas County (59.45)
42 Westlake (59.25)
43 Pebblebrook (59.13)
44 Duluth (58.77)
45 Luella (57.97)
46 Centennial (57.89)
47 Tri-Cities (57.87)
48 Wheeler (57.74)
49 Hughes (56.23)
50 Shiloh (53.98)
51 Alcovy (53.71)
52 North Forsyth (53.57)
53 Kennesaw Mountain (53.26)
54 South Forsyth (52.99)
55 Habersham Central (50.36)
56 Cherokee (49.2)
57 Campbell (47.53)
58 Mountain View (46.05)
59 Berkmar (44.64)
60 Rockdale County (40.11)
61 Druid Hills (36.34)
62 Morrow (25.64)
63 Meadowcreek (24.67)

Class AAAAA

1 Northside (Warner Robins) (95.3)
2 Tucker (91.87)
3 M.L. King (83.9)
4 Kell (83.65)
5 Stephenson (82.67)
6 East Paulding (79.57)
7 Warner Robins (79.28)
8 Thomas County Central (77.89)
9 Flowery Branch (76.9)
10 Gainesville (74.26)
11 Southwest DeKalb (73.28)
12 Ware County (72.45)
13 Clarke Central (71.85)
14 Allatoona (68.96)
15 Bainbridge (68.13)
16 Heritage (Conyers) (68.11)
17 Pope (66.4)
18 Northgate (65.13)
19 Whitewater (64.82)
20 Rome (64.37)
21 Glynn Academy (61.48)
22 Houston County (60.7)
23 Hiram (60.17)
24 Jones County (59.75)
25 Lakeside (Evans) (59.37)
26 Cedar Shoals (59.11)
27 Union Grove (58.3)
28 Villa Rica (57.38)
29 Creekview (57.07)
30 Mays (56.75)
31 Salem (56.71)
32 Starr’s Mill (56.04)
33 Jenkins (55.84)
34 Drew (55.66)
35 Sprayberry (55.51)
36 Apalachee (55.5)
37 Creekside (54.27)
38 Loganville (53.34)
39 Sequoyah (53.2)
40 Harris County (52.67)
41 Lee County (52.66)
42 South Paulding (52.24)
43 Miller Grove (51.36)
44 Evans (51.28)
45 North Paulding (51.25)
46 Richmond Hill (49.88)
47 Hardaway (49.81)
48 Dunwoody (49.77)
49 Mount Zion (Jonesboro) (48.52)
50 Windsor Forest (48.49)
51 Woodland (Cartersville) (48.08)
52 Greenbrier (45.73)
53 Ola (45.65)
54 Northside (Columbus) (44.37)
55 Northview (44.04)
56 Riverwood (44.03)
57 McIntosh (43.5)
58 Forsyth Central (41.8)
59 Mundy’s Mill (41.2)
60 Effingham County (40.14)
61 Arabia Mountain (39.11)
62 North Atlanta (38.97)
63 Grovetown (36.86)
64 New Manchester (35.76)
65 Bradwell Institute (35.43)
66 Groves (35.06)
67 Paulding County (34.78)
68 Osborne (34.49)
69 Lithia Springs (33.03)
70 Forest Park (31.87)
71 Lakeside (DeKalb) (28.37)
72 Winder-Barrow (25.77)
73 Cambridge (20.04)
74 Clarkston (12.84)
75 North Springs (9.21)

Class AAAA

1 Sandy Creek (86.38)
2 Carrollton (80.35)
3 Marist (79.96)
4 Cairo (79.79)
5 Griffin (75.57)
6 Statesboro (75.35)
7 Baldwin (74.49)
8 Burke County (70.71)
9 Eastside (69.3)
10 Westside (Macon) (63.98)
11 Jonesboro (63.67)
12 Northwest Whitfield (62.87)
13 Dalton (62.45)
14 Stephens County (62.41)
15 Stockbridge (62.33)
16 Columbia (61.56)
17 Ridgeland (61.45)
18 Perry (61.18)
19 Riverdale (61.11)
20 Monroe Area (60.58)
21 Dutchtown (59.08)
22 North Clayton (58.51)
23 Americus-Sumter (58.46)
24 LaGrange (58.4)
25 Monroe (58.29)
26 Grady (57.56)
27 Banneker (57.52)
28 Washington (57.51)
29 Westover (57.4)
30 Worth County (57.37)
31 Mary Persons (57.04)
32 Troup (56.3)
33 Stone Mountain (55.93)
34 Upson-Lee (55.04)
35 Wayne County (54.77)
36 Shaw (54.61)
37 Chamblee (53.67)
38 Cedartown (52.78)
39 Carver (Atlanta) (52.75)
40 Redan (52.34)
41 Liberty County (49.47)
42 Cass (47.12)
43 Woodland (Stockbridge) (46.44)
44 Fayette County (46.39)
45 Crisp County (46.24)
46 West Laurens (45.8)
47 Alexander (45.47)
48 Spalding (45.2)
49 Veterans (44.75)
50 Gilmer (43.95)
51 Locust Grove (42.46)
52 South Effingham (42.42)
53 Rutland (42.16)
54 LaFayette (42.11)
55 Richmond Academy (42)
56 Butler (41.37)
57 South Atlanta (40.74)
58 Albany (38.48)
59 Dougherty (37.28)
60 Lithonia (36.78)
61 Madison County (35.8)
62 Chestatee (32.11)
63 Lumpkin County (31.94)
64 Heritage (Catoosa) (31.64)
65 Eagle’s Landing (29.44)
66 Pickens (29.24)
67 Lanier (27.72)
68 Therrell (26.6)
69 Johnson (Gainesville) (26.55)
70 Hephzibah (26.12)
71 Glenn Hills (25.24)
72 Howard (24.57)
73 Columbus (22.34)
74 Southeast Whitfield (21.42)
75 River Ridge (19.86)
76 Cross Creek (19.37)
77 Walnut Grove (19.02)

Class AAA

1 Buford (93.34)
2 Carver (Columbus) (82.12)
3 Peach County (81.23)
4 St. Pius X (76.28)
5 Thomson (72.69)
6 Washington County (70.2)
7 Elbert County (67.4)
8 North Oconee (63.6)
9 Woodward Academy (63.18)
10 Jefferson County (61.6)
11 Henry County (61.19)
12 Blessed Trinity (60.95)
13 Jackson (59.02)
14 Appling County (58.11)
15 Cartersville (57.92)
16 Cedar Grove (57.56)
17 White County (56.28)
18 Dodge County (55.68)
19 Chapel Hill (52.56)
20 North Hall (50.84)
21 Callaway (50.39)
22 Hart County (49.53)
23 Swainsboro (48.81)
24 Pierce County (48.53)
25 Morgan County (47.64)
26 Ringgold (47.5)
27 Franklin County (46.09)
28 Tattnall County (45.48)
29 Oconee County (44.8)
30 Central (Carrollton) (44.66)
31 Gordon Central (43.79)
32 Adairsville (43.67)
33 Jackson (Atlanta) (42.21)
34 Pike County (41.33)
35 Decatur (40.86)
36 Rockmart (40.5)
37 Dawson County (39.64)
38 Beach (39.57)
39 Central (Macon) (38.95)
40 Haralson County (37.19)
41 Lakeview-Ft. Oglethorpe (36.97)
42 McNair (36.01)
43 Banks County (32.73)
44 Johnson (Savannah) (31.5)
45 Southwest (31.1)
46 Savannah (30.43)
47 Towers (30.25)
48 East Hall (29.41)
49 Brantley County (29.17)
50 Douglass (29.07)
51 Jackson County (28.6)
52 East Jackson (26.2)
53 Southeast Bulloch (25.72)
54 Fannin County (25.5)
55 Sonoraville (22.16)
56 West Hall (20.9)
57 North Murray (20.36)
58 Coahulla Creek (19.19)
59 B.E.S.T Academy (13.57)
60 Cross Keys (-10.26)

Class AA

1 Calhoun (89.04)
2 Fitzgerald (78.21)
3 Cook (72.29)
4 Lovett (72.26)
5 Brooks County (69.42)
6 Greater Atlanta Christian (66.98)
7 Thomasville (63.33)
8 Westminster (60.37)
9 Laney (59.45)
10 Early County (58.43)
11 Dublin (54.17)
12 Wesleyan (54.11)
13 Pepperell (53.93)
14 Bremen (52.62)
15 Vidalia (52.36)
16 Heard County (51.16)
17 Putnam County (51.1)
18 Lamar County (51.09)
19 Bleckley County (50.28)
20 Benedictine (48)
21 Bowdon (47.43)
22 Jefferson (47.38)
23 McIntosh County Academy (47.19)
24 Screven County (46.41)
25 Washington-Wilkes (44.55)
26 Northeast (44.52)
27 Dade County (40.68)
28 Toombs County (37.61)
29 East Laurens (37.22)
30 Manchester (36.86)
31 Armuchee (35.58)
32 Coosa (34.77)
33 Chattooga (33.44)
34 Bacon County (32.17)
35 Josey (31.88)
36 Greene County (31.48)
37 Monticello (31.07)
38 Jeff Davis (29.92)
39 Metter (28.31)
40 Taylor County (27.95)
41 Westside (Augusta) (25.99)
42 Chattahoochee County (25.49)
43 Bryan County (24.46)
44 Harlem (23.58)
45 Macon County (22.72)
46 Berrien (22.44)
47 Oglethorpe County (22.44)
48 Union County (22.42)
49 Model (21.76)
50 Long County (20.92)
51 Temple (20.35)
52 Riverside Military (20.32)
53 Pelham (19.99)
54 Kendrick (17.82)
55 Spencer (17.61)
56 Rabun County (13.59)
57 Crawford County (12.57)
58 Jordan (11.37)
59 Atkinson County (8.17)
60 Murray County (5.5)
61 Social Circle (5.38)
62 Hapeville (-0.76)

Class A

1 Lincoln County (66.23)
2 Eagle’s Landing Christian (64.84)
3 Savannah Christian (63.82)
4 Wilcox County (63.57)
5 Charlton County (57.69)
6 Wilkinson County (55.51)
7 Clinch County (53.65)
8 Holy Innocents (53.36)
9 Aquinas (52.35)
10 Emanuel County Institute (51.96)
11 Seminole County (50.57)
12 Calvary Day (49.33)
13 Darlington (49.14)
14 George Walton Academy (48.63)
15 Commerce (47.17)
16 Claxton (47.1)
17 Marion County (46.92)
18 Athens Academy (45.37)
19 Warren County (45.04)
20 Landmark Christian (44.18)
21 Turner County (43.51)
22 Prince Avenue Christian (43.26)
23 Brookstone (43.24)
24 Greenville (43.07)
25 Mitchell County (42.56)
26 Johnson County (41.93)
27 Dooly County (41.6)
28 First Presbyterian (40.82)
29 Trion (40.72)
30 Pace Academy (37.93)
31 Miller County (36.39)
32 Irwin County (35.79)
33 Our Lady of Mercy (35.41)
34 Hawkinsville (32.15)
35 Hancock Central (31.24)
36 Mount Paran Christian (30.21)
37 Walker (30.07)
38 Terrell County (29.18)
39 Calhoun County (27.43)
40 Athens Christian (26.71)
41 Gordon Lee (25.71)
42 King’s Ridge (25.6)
43 Whitefield Academy (25.59)
44 Treutlen (23.83)
45 Schley County (23.43)
46 Mount Pisgah Christian (21.92)
47 Lanier County (21.62)
48 Central (Talbotton) (20.65)
49 Randolph-Clay (19.28)
50 Portal (19.02)
51 Savannah Country Day (18.19)
52 Telfair County (17.75)
53 Jenkins County (16.27)
54 Twiggs County (16.26)
55 Pacelli (15.45)
56 Lakeview Academy (14.95)
57 Montgomery County (14.27)
58 Georgia Military College (13.1)
59 Strong Rock Christian (12.98)
60 Wheeler County (12.63)
61 Pinecrest Academy (12.17)
62 Glascock County (10.45)
63 Southwest Atlanta Christian (9.96)
64 Fellowship Christian (7.83)
65 Hebron Christian Academy (5.5)
66 Towns County (1.55)
67 Stewart County (-6.12)
68 Christian Heritage (-6.16)
69 Mount Vernon (-6.41)
70 Providence Christian (-7.41)
71 Rabun Gap (-7.41)
72 Baconton (-12.02)
73 St. Francis (-15.15)
74 North Cobb Christian (-22.26)
75 Mount Zion (Carroll) (-27.41)

The ratings are compiled by Loren Maxwell, who has been involved with sports ratings since 1986. Maxwell is an avid sports historian and the founder of the Georgia High School Football Historians Association. Currently, he is an active duty officer in the Air Force as an instructor at the Air Force Institute of Technology.

40 comments Add your comment

sportsnut

September 4th, 2012
4:31 pm

Hard to believe there are 25 teams in the state better than Lovejoy all class. Even harder to think they are # 16 in AAAAAA better. Must be some reason. Please ask Loren “What do you have” The alltitude must be affecting his blood flow to the brain.

mrjames

September 4th, 2012
4:41 pm

LoveJoy is a joke.

FridayNightLightsFan

September 4th, 2012
4:51 pm

Sportsnut. Check the other story “Ranking the Regions”. Right or Wrong Lovejoy is in a very weak region (13 points below the second lowest). Now that’s not Lovejoys fault but that’s why the computer is ranking them so low.

Billy

September 4th, 2012
7:23 pm

These rankings are so stupid that it’s unbelievable.

blu eagle

September 4th, 2012
7:44 pm

NSWR at the top where they belong, and all is right with the world! Go you hairy EAGLES!

sportsnut

September 4th, 2012
8:00 pm

@ FridayNightLightsFan == Did check it out. Same as last season. Turns out that region 4 had twice as many teams reach the 3rd. round as any of the so-called stronger regions. The rest of the region may not be that strong but that does not make Lovejoy any less competative than the other top teams from a year ago. @ mrjames == 24-2 over the past two seasons is no joke. They also have now a 22 game regular season winning streak. Who is your team ? As I stated before, I question the knowledge of the people doing the ranking. If you put Lovejoy numbers from the last couple of years into any computer, the output should be different. The computer is also used for the ranking services of Calpreps and Maxpreps and those have a totally different outlook. In my opinion, there must be something more causing this lack of confidence. Do the work yourself and see what you come up with. Be objective. Common sense is sometimes not so common.

BullDawg Rick

September 4th, 2012
9:49 pm

3 of the top 4 teams reside in the best high school sports county in the USofA… Gwinnett

BullDawg Rick

September 4th, 2012
9:50 pm

& the Tigers of Tucker is all of a few football tosses from Gwinnett too…

sportsnut

September 4th, 2012
10:33 pm

GHSA/ Score Atlanta has the Wildcats of Lovejoy at # 5

Todd Holcomb

September 4th, 2012
11:22 pm

It is interesting that CalPreps has Lovejoy #2 while Maxwell has Lovejoy #33. I’ll ask Mr. Maxwell to get his take on it. … Massey, one of the BCS rankers, has Lovejoy at #17, which coincidentally is right in the middle of the other two.

One thing I’ll say about computer ratings is that they are objective. It doesn’t have favorites. The reason you’ll see differences is that the ratings ‘programmers’ have different theories on how to rank teams at different parts of the season. Maxwell, if not mistaken, goes back a few more seasons and looks for consistency at the top. Schools like Lassiter that can be up and down are not given the same benefit of doubt as Northside or Buford or Calhoun, those programs that always win 10+ games. Some rankings ignore last season more quickly than others.

Todd Holcomb

September 4th, 2012
11:26 pm

I’ll add that the one thing computer polls have in common is that they have no idea that Lovejoy returns a good nucleus from its 2011 team and that Buford lost 21 of 24 starters. For that reason, the AJC and other media do their own rankings. That doesn’t mean computer rankings are meaningless. You just have to know what they’re trying to measure. This early in the season, they’re basically trying to say, “Based on this team’s history of scores, this is about where they rank.” I’d call it a great ‘’starting point” for ranking teams in early season.

battleaxekid

September 4th, 2012
11:31 pm

lovejoy will be tesyed as well as cc this fri, gona be close…

battleaxekid

September 4th, 2012
11:36 pm

lovejoy is playin with the big boys now… Now we will see if they can hang. They couldn’t even win the big one last , but we’ll see come friday night. I hope they do well, but don’t see them the powerhouse that i have been hearin about…. may be fooled, but again we’ll see…. I see a close game… but………

Loren Maxwell

September 5th, 2012
6:04 am

@sportsnut, FridayNightLightsFan, and Todd Holcomb:

Lovejoy obviously had a good season last year and a reasonably decent season the year before, but those were also following a string of five straight losing seasons. Todd is right in that the program values consistency more than recent success, although recent success definitely plays a part as well.

Region strength isn’t necessarily a part of the rating yet since the region schedule hasn’t begun, although it can hamper them from proving themselves if 2-AAAAAA proves to be the weakest region in AAAAAA. Even winning by 40 and 50 points every game over mediocre opponents is not as good as a 1 point win over a quality opponent.

Currently, the program says Lovejoy is 34.53 points better than Mundy’s Mill at Mundy’s Mill, so it’s very much in line with the 44-6 victory. Mundy’s Mill has won six games since 2008, so even a much larger victory wouldn’t have made much difference anyway.

Concerning differences with CalPreps and Massey at this point, my guess would be it’s in in how they weigh past seasons. Massey may only use the last two years, which would definitely help Lovejoy over where they stand in my system. However, no matter how I look at it, I cannot account for CalPreps ranking. I don’t see anything to say that Lovejoy is the number two team in the entire state, especially over the likes of Camden County, Northside (Warner Robins), Tucker, etc., all teams with recent success and decent wins to start this season. Even with just using last year’s results and Lovejoy’s victory over Mundy’s Mill, I find it difficult to reach that same conclusion and I’d frankly be shocked if sportsnut could either as much as he would like to see Lovejoy ranked that high.

Either way, Lovejoy has an outstanding opportunity to demonstrate to everyone where they stand in just a couple of days. I’m looking forward to seeing the result!

RealTalk

September 5th, 2012
8:17 am

PTR 19, Pview 20, AFTER Pview beat them on Friday? Maxwell must be running on Windows Vista, time for an upgrade.

FridayNightLightsFan

September 5th, 2012
8:47 am

@Loren Maxwell – thanks for what you do.

Reeze

September 5th, 2012
11:52 am

Sportnut………. I think the real folks in here watch football not rankings, You are in fantasy land , Lovejoys biggest victory was against Kell and Warner Robins, The Tucker kids put on The advantages of the Wing-T clinic and you expect the red carpet….You wanna see some good defense check out the 2nd half of the Tucker /Northside semi.

RealTalk

September 5th, 2012
12:12 pm

@ Loren Maxwell – NO thanks for what you do.

sportsnut

September 5th, 2012
3:46 pm

@ Loren Maxwell == Those five straight losing seasons came as a result of Mundy’s Mill opening. From 96′ to 04′, Lovejoy was a respectable 75-27. I am appreciative of your willingness to explain how you do your job. You are correct in one aspect, that I agree with, friday will tell alot. Maybe I should just hang my hat on the 7 on 7 26-2 victory we achieved against them and let that serve as my “Signature win”. You explained the computer rankings, now will you explain the Score Atlanta/ GHSA ranking of # 5 and the AP # 9 ranking. Do they conflict with your “program” ? It definantly clashes with the 16, 17 and 33 positions. Question is, who’s right ?

sportsnut

September 5th, 2012
3:48 pm

By them, I am refering to Colquit, hoping friday will bring some resolution to the matter.

NsideBlue

September 5th, 2012
8:22 pm

@Todd & Chip and the rest of the AJC staff: hey, just wanted to thank you guys for all the great coverage of everything-high school football in Georgia! Of course, as a Northside alum, I’m usually tickled pink these days with the eagles and happy that they are competitive with all the great programs in the state (so many to even mention).

I wish that there was something similar in Kentucky for high school basketball, it’s as big a fever there as football is here, and I would love to be able to read tons of articles, historical facts, and wild-haired comments from all the crazies (kidding) posting in these blogs. Georgia fans, you don’t know how good you have it!

It’s Great to be a Northside Eagle!

Camden74

September 5th, 2012
10:05 pm

Really? North Gwinnett and Buford ahead of Camden, must be the Twilight Zone! :-D

Region 1AAAAAA Fan

September 6th, 2012
7:42 am

“The Maxwell Ratings uses only historical scores.”

What exactly are “historical scores”?

WildcatGuy

September 6th, 2012
6:25 pm

The only rankings that make any sense at all are Todd’s rankings! Good Luck this week to the Camden Wildcats!

sportsnut

September 6th, 2012
7:04 pm

@ Region 1AAAAAA Fan == I asked that same question and have not gotten an answer.

Loren Maxwell

September 6th, 2012
10:47 pm

@Region 1AAAAAA Fan and sportsnut: What exactly are “historical scores”?

The program utilizes the scores and sites of the games as well as a momentum factor and the results of past seasons in order to determine each team’s rating. Other information, such as returning starters, coaching changes, the weather at each game, etc., are not factored.

Loren Maxwell

September 6th, 2012
10:57 pm

@Realtalk: “PTR 19, Pview 20, AFTER Pview beat them on Friday?”

Parkview is rated a half point behind Peachtree Ridge, but has a nearly two point home advantage. In the end, the program estimates that Parkview should have won by 1 1/2 points over Peachtree Ridge at home, which is in line with Parkview’s 3-0 victory. If Parkview had won 3-0 at Peachtree Ridge, then the ranking would have reflected that as well.

Loren Maxwell

September 6th, 2012
10:59 pm

@FridayNightLightsFan: “thanks for what you do.”

Thanks for the support!

@RealTalk: “NO thanks for what you do.”

:(

Loren Maxwell

September 6th, 2012
11:41 pm

@sportsnut: “You explained the computer rankings, now will you explain the Score Atlanta/ GHSA ranking of # 5 and the AP # 9 ranking. Do they conflict with your “program” ?”

I’m not familiar with what the Score Atlanta/GHSA does and I assume you know how the AP poll works but you’re really asking why is there such a difference between my ratings and the other polls.

I think it’s important to recognize the difference between what information is utilized and can be reasonably processed. The value of the polls is that much of the information that is difficult to quantify can be subjectively evaluated by experts. In other words, how important is it that the starting quarterback is returning? The starting quarterback who threw 30 interceptions last year? How about a starting left tackle? A starting right tackle? A particular starting right tackle? That same right tackle, but with a new position coach? The same right tackle but at a different school? These questions are inherently difficult to answer with a quantitative analysis so some subjective analysis is helpful.

However, subjective analysis can also have its weaknesses. How many games can an individual watch when practically all games start at 7 o’clock Friday night and only a handful of games even have highlights broadcast on the news? How many of the 22 offensive and defensive starters on each of the 63 AAAAAA can an individual effectively evaluate during a season? What about the backups? What about the kickers and punters? How can an individual even watch the top fifteen or so teams when there are only ten or eleven weeks in the regular season? How many comments are made here about teams that the person posting has honestly never even seen in action? Even diehard fans are only seeing their team play week after week and not their team’s upcoming opponents, but that doesn’t prevent them in the least from making subjective statements about who is the better team.

Ultimately, to overcome these limitations, the pollsters (and the fans) fall back to reviewing won-loss records, scores of the games, opponents and opponent’s opponents, sites of the games, etc., to make determinations about the quality of each team.

The value of a quantitative analysis is that the data is treated in exactly the same manner for all teams and an objective rating is compiled. The rating may not be perfect. In fact, the rating WILL NOT be perfect. There is an extreme amount of variability in every football game and the rating is only an estimate. The best team doesn’t always win and even if they do the score is not always indicative of the difference in the quality of the two teams.

However, the quantitative analysis provides the ability to perform an objective look at 412 teams every week that is otherwise humanly impossible.

Again, not necessarily that objective means the perfect answer, but any approach will have its limitations.

CoffeeC100

September 7th, 2012
6:11 am

Mr. Maxwell. It’s cool. We get it. You can stop justifying your system. Time will tell. Your total words posted just exceeded the total posted by all others. Good grief.

CoffeeC100

September 7th, 2012
6:12 am

Get some sleep Mr. Maxwell.

sportsnut

September 7th, 2012
12:32 pm

@ Loren Maxwell == Much of what you stated makes my point. I’m pretty sure you and the other pollsters have an opportunity to watch some football games during the season and this is used for your determination as to whom you think is worthy of your ranking. My issue is that you are not giving yourself the chance to see others because of the location of said games. Just last night, the cameras had several shots of M. Carvell at the Parkview vs Norcross game. How many games do you guys make it to? All the schools in the Metro area are within your coverage area but we are constantly given Cobb and Gwinnett as though there are no others. For me, it is not just about ranking, it is about equality. I know it is immpossible for you or any other human to be in more than one place at a time but the readers of the paper and those who participate in the conversations on these blogs deserve more.If you have to quantify you choices based on info that you can easily obtain from neighborhood papers or schools themselves, why not do that instead of using reasons that even you aren’t able to satisfactorily explain? Perfection is nowhere. Dillegence on the other hand is readily available, it just needs to be exercised. Lets use Lovejoy as an example. All the numbers that are taken into consideration, i.e., stats, are available for your use. The numbers for Lovejoy are just as impressive as those of many other top teams, yet there has to be a proving ground for them and not the others. Need I remind you that Grayson and all the 6A schools are playing in 6A for the first time also. So what is the difference ? Fans can not see or feel the objectivity if they recognize a difference in how one team is evaluated and the same is absent for another. Have you been to a Lovejoy game ? How many times have you seen them. We are local you know. Not to know them as much as you know Grayson, Buford, Marist and others seems hard to phathom given the reasons you state above. We are right here.

Loren Maxwell

September 7th, 2012
1:50 pm

@sportsnut: “I’m pretty sure you and the other pollsters have an opportunity to watch some football games during the season and this is used for your determination as to whom you think is worthy of your ranking.”

Using subjective observations from the games would defeat the purpose of an objective rating. The ratings presented here are based purely on the scores and the sites of the games, not any additional credit or deduction of credit based on any subjective evaluations. It would not matter if I watched every Lovejoy game or never watched a Lovejoy game or even never watched any game. The objective rating would be exactly the same.

“The numbers for Lovejoy are just as impressive as those of many other top teams, yet there has to be a proving ground for them and not the others.”

Lovejoy does not have to prove themselves more than any other team. If their historical performance and their performance in games to date matched programs like Grayson, Camden County, and Lowndes, then they would be ranked just as high.

Loren Maxwell

September 7th, 2012
1:51 pm

@CoffeeC100: “Your total words posted just exceeded the total posted by all others. Good grief.”

Hey, I’m an instructor . . . I can hardly sign my name without using six pages of paper :)

Just a Fan

September 7th, 2012
1:56 pm

Computer rankings rely on the past largely-the season has just started.There are a number of “laughers”in these lists including the team I support(Carrollton).

eagle1

September 7th, 2012
4:54 pm

It’s Great to be a Northside Eagle!!!!!!

BullDawg Rick

September 7th, 2012
10:52 pm

Big shoutout & props to the Red Elephants of Gainesville…

Came into the Wolves den & beat Buford 19-15…

Your QB #4 Watson is a good ‘en & will be an asset to the Clemson Tigers!!

(First home loss for the Wolves since 2006 vs Charleton Co.)

JR

September 12th, 2012
4:19 pm

how in the hell thomas county central no in the top 25 of the all class ranks when we barely lost to colquitt and beat marist and we’re gonna beat cairo too so whats up haters

jacket68

September 16th, 2012
3:35 pm

Same here, JR. Something needs to change. Especially when TCC just beat Cairo like a dirty rug, 39-13? Hell, TCC led 39-0 at the half and put in the JV for the second half.

Somebody needs to wake up at the switch where the Maxwell ratings are concerned.

Oh, and TCC is back……Best team they’ve had so far since 2007.

Loren Maxwell

September 19th, 2012
7:45 pm

@JR and jacket68: I think you’re looking at the wrong weeks. TCC has been in the all-class Top 25 since they defeated Marist on 7 Sep.