Dalton forced to forfeit four games; state-record streak of 51 winning seasons is endangered

Dalton must forfeit four victories for using an eligible player who failed to make a legitimate move into the Dalton school district, the Georgia High School Association ruled Tuesday.

The result could mean the end of Dalton’s state record of 51 consecutive winning seasons.

The forfeits drop Dalton’s record to 2-6 from 6-2. Dalton remains in playoff contention in Region 7-AAAA. Before the forfeits, Dalton led its subregion with a 4-0 record, but at 2-2 still can rally and win a region play-in game Nov. 4 and qualify for the state playoffs.

But if Dalton fails to win an appeal, the football team would have to advance to the Class AAA quarterfinals to win seven games and salvage its streak of winning seasons, which is perhaps the longest active streak of its kind in the nation.

The ineligible player, linebacker Corey Smith, played at Southeast Whitfield last season. He was Dalton’s leading tackler through six games. He sat out the past two games, both Dalton victories, as the GHSA reviewed the case.

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WarEagle

October 26th, 2011
12:07 pm

What a shame for all the other boys on that team, especially the seniors, who have worked so hard all season.

DaltonDawg

October 26th, 2011
12:13 pm

hmmmm. just so happens that Dalton plays Southeast this week….. wonder if the scoreboard has triple digits?? SE soccer program better have their affairs in order…….

Steve From Dalton

October 26th, 2011
12:24 pm

Dalton has been doing this for years. The only thing new is they were caught with their hand in the cookie jar this time.

Dawgavalanche

October 26th, 2011
12:43 pm

St— is obviously a jealous sour-grapes loser from a competitor school that is not able to accept the fact that the Dalton program has always, for 52 years, been a step above ordinary programs, and the coaches, fans and players have always shown more support and hard work than anyone else. Kids want to play for a winner, and Dalton knows how to win football games, and only a jealous loser would think that they have had to cheat to do it. Dalton still has a shot to correct this problem through the appeal process, and hopefully the truth will come out. I feel sorry for the kids who have worked so hard all year, while S—– was sitting in his Lazyboy drinking beer, and eating chips.

AVikingFan

October 26th, 2011
1:14 pm

I hate it for the kids involved but I am also glad to see the GHSA taking an active look at the transfer situation in case there are some really bad problems somewhere, like a lot of blog posters indicate.

DAWG WORLD

October 26th, 2011
1:17 pm

If the kids go to the schools that are in their district Dalton would not be forfeiting games. So sad for all the kids that have to go through this. Winning is great, but what are we teaching our kids if we are cheating and knowing that is wrong.:(

Dawgsgone

October 26th, 2011
1:35 pm

Seems strange that one 17 year old kid could fool all the Coaches, the Vice Principal, the Principal & in fact everyone involved in the program about something as simple as where he lived. Would seem that someone should have dug a little deeper, oh wait they did but with a wink, wink & and a nod, nod everything will be o.k. as it has been in the past.

crusherdawg

October 26th, 2011
1:50 pm

Steve from Dalton nailed it. I graduated from Dalton in the 70’s. It may be as Dawgavalanche said that they know how to build a program. They’ve built one by recruiting the players from other schools in the area as well as outside the area and not using their own talent. This is not from a jealous loser but from one of your own. They deserve the punishment that they have received. I hope that the GHSA will not back down simply because they are Dalton High. Thank you GHSA for taking a stand for what is right. Please do not cave in during the appeal process.

Dawgavalanche

October 26th, 2011
2:03 pm

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Dawgavalanche

October 26th, 2011
2:04 pm

crusherdawg obviously didn’t play football at Dalton.

DAWG WORLD

October 26th, 2011
2:07 pm

crusherdawg you are right they have always went out side of the schools to get kids to play football build within your own system you dont hear of the other schools (NW,MC,SE,LFO,RHS ect..) recruiting at Dalton it is albout the W not the kids…..

Jefferson

October 26th, 2011
2:21 pm

Buford….you clean? Ha.

N.GA.DAWG

October 26th, 2011
2:23 pm

I went to NW and saw a few that went to Dalton. Specially from the south end. In my opinion if you wanted to be coached up you went to Dalton period. They have been and still are the best coached team in Whitfield Co.

John Doe

October 26th, 2011
2:26 pm

theres another 5a school down south that’s got a lot of this same crap going on….

crusherdawg

October 26th, 2011
2:38 pm

Dawgavalanche you didn’t have to play at Dalton to see what was going on. If you’re football fan it is easy to see what is taking place. As for N. GA. Dawg maybe you should look at your alma mater and the season that they are having. Something good is going on up there.

ChiefSupporter

October 26th, 2011
2:55 pm

Someone needs to check into Kell doing this exact same thing. 3 kids from Cherokee over the past 2 years

Camden74

October 26th, 2011
2:58 pm

Todd! AJC…….Do you guys have PROOF READERS? The Headline in your lead story has a misspelled word! :-D

Cohutta Dawgman

October 26th, 2011
3:31 pm

Bad way to end the streak, but they might not have had the streak without previous recruiting efforts.

Teams are still doing that

October 26th, 2011
3:41 pm

In the sixty’s Valdosta use to have 120 player’s on their team and had teams that could beat a lot of college teams. They would recruit their needs into Florida . Apparently Dalton is still doing that. But if you check a lot of the best players in Georgia they transfer to a different school a lot.
What we need is someone to investigate all the top teams in their conference and report how many transfers came into that system this year. You would find success for a lot of teams depends on transfers.
The question is should it be allowed.? Not my call but they would be fools not to do this if it will get them more exposure to get noticed by major college recruiters.

FDawg

October 26th, 2011
3:41 pm

Good call Camden74….with does the word engangered mean?

Dalton

October 26th, 2011
3:59 pm

The REAL story here is that innocent kids who have worked hard and given their all are going to suffer consequences they don’t deserve. The REAL story here is that the Principal of Southeast High School (and wouldn’t the Superintendent know what his Principals are filing with a State Agency??) allegedly held information and waited to file a complaint, that because of it’s timing, caused as much harm to the Dalton program as possible. Was the timing AFTER 5 wins a coincidence? I don’t think so. SEHS Principal (and Superintendent of WCS) respected “educators?” Ha. Give me a break!

b

October 26th, 2011
3:59 pm

Nice to see the principal of Dalton blame the school that turned them in.
What a tool she must be.
Embarrassing for her.

Dalton

October 26th, 2011
4:04 pm

No, b, what’s embarrassing is the manner in which the other school system went about the allegation. Pathetic.

BILLY MAYS HERE

October 26th, 2011
4:05 pm

hahahahaha *drinks catamount tears*

BILLY MAYS HERE

October 26th, 2011
4:07 pm

Oh shut up about “those poor kids who worked so hard,” stop lionizing an extracurricular activity, high school football doesn’t matter. You’re part of the reason why Georgia’s public education system is so laughably bad.

old carrollton fan

October 26th, 2011
4:27 pm

Transfers are ruing the game of football to an extent.Whatever happened to the old concept of going to the school in your assigned district and playing for that school?Look what its done to basketball.As I have said before most people have roots(a job,a home etc)and cant just move to another district so little Johnny can be a star and to heck with his former teammates.

Steve From Dalton

October 26th, 2011
4:28 pm

it’s really pathetic and sad that Dalton High will not take responsibility for their actions. They blame everyone else. What does that teach the kids?

Envy is Evil

October 26th, 2011
4:31 pm

Looks like a lot of people get jealous after they lose over and over and start making accusations against Dalton. Couldn’t win on the field, huh?

BILLY MAYS HERE

October 26th, 2011
4:38 pm

Insightful! Did you come up with that post all by yourself?

Carpet!

October 26th, 2011
4:48 pm

How many of those transfers’ parents do you think are, or were given a job in the carpet mills???? I’d love to hear the findings on that research…!

Jill

October 26th, 2011
4:49 pm

@Old Carrollton Fan: That’s funny right there. Trolling is fun, isn’t it?

Trust me, Cton is next. Make one unwise decision…

breamking

October 26th, 2011
4:49 pm

Kell I think has some Sprayberry this year also.

Camden74

October 26th, 2011
4:52 pm

old carrollton fan……….Simple! Money and ego! It used to be the pride of our town against yours. But that seems to have gone away. QB clubs and other booster organizations are throwing money into these programs like never before. And they expect a return on their money! Everyone loves a winner as the old saying goes! And the boosters love bragging on their winner! The more you win, the more money for your program……..And what about the kids? :-)

Dylan

October 26th, 2011
4:53 pm

b, I like your point. I don’t care when Southeast’s principal knew about the info or lodged the complaint, Dalton should have avoided this by making sure his transfer was legal!!! This is not Southeast’s fault.

Dewayne

October 26th, 2011
4:54 pm

I went to NW and kids from there transferred to Dalton, and they were football players. But hell, it happens all over the state. Even if Dalton is doing this they don’t have a state title so maybe the recruiting coordinator needs to be fired!!!

Catamont Tears

October 26th, 2011
4:56 pm

Dalton

October 26th, 2011
4:57 pm

Billy Mays obviously a misguided introvert who either: 1. is a current high school student who has no friends nor has ever worked for many months as part of a group trying to achieve a goal; or 2. is a high school graduate (or dropout) who is still bitter because he never had close friends who worked as a group to achieve a common goal. Either way, I feel sorry for you Billy. Now get off your mom’s computer.

BILLY MAYS HERE

October 26th, 2011
4:59 pm

The bigger they are, the harder they fall

Dalton

October 26th, 2011
5:05 pm

The more inferior they are, the more they will try ANYTHING to bring others down. If you can’t beat ‘em, embarrass yourself and your school system with low brow tactics, now matter how many students your hurt in the process. Again, PATHETIC.

BILLY MAYS HERE

October 26th, 2011
5:08 pm

Jeff

October 26th, 2011
5:09 pm

Last year Lassiter played against the same player three different times – all during the same season last year. Played against him while he played for Sprayberry, then North Cobb, then Marietta. There’s your record!!!

Dewayne

October 26th, 2011
5:09 pm

If you can’t win transfer to Calhoun or Buford their recruiting coordinators are doing a pretty good job I think. Who agrees with me? You really think Valdosta won all those titles with just kids in the city limits? Calhoun and Buford small towns winning year in an out with homegrown talent? Hmmm I smell bullsh!t. Plus, it’s high school football I don’t even keep track of it anymore, but this problem has been going on for a very long time!!!

Bystander

October 26th, 2011
5:10 pm

Dalton: are you saying that if Dalton had a similar situation with another team they wouldn’t have waited out the time to “teach them a lesson?”. Of course they would and they would brag about taking the season and walk around with a proverbial canary in their teeth. The principal and team did not do their due diligence and they are pitifully trying to push the blame elsewhere. The program at Southeast obviously did do their homework on this one. Instead of pushing blame someone needs to step up take responsiblity and face the consequences.

jw

October 26th, 2011
5:18 pm

My comment is this – Dalton got busted – if it’s true then they will serve the penalty. Here is my concern – why go after the little schools and not hit the Gwinnett/Cobb/Fulton programs that have open door policies and known “coaches” being a great player’s “guardians”. If GHSA is going to bust the small schools, bust the big ones, too – and don’t wait for rivals to turn them in.

bdawg01

October 26th, 2011
5:21 pm

if its true the southeast principal knew about all of this and did not report it until after enough games was played to stop Daltons winning streak,thats pathetic and shows why they are probably the principal at southeast, just think they could have waited a few weeks and then they could have claimed a victory over Dalton, thats the onlw way they could get one ! what a looser if true !

Dewayne

October 26th, 2011
5:26 pm

So your saying wait and lose even more games due to an ineligible player playing in those games too? Hmmm stay in school dude!!! Southeast did nothing wrong they didn’t play the player Dalton did;so therefore, Dalton is to blame!!! Still not sure how Dalton is AAA along with Murray and Southeast where are the hispanics going to school at?

Dalton

October 26th, 2011
5:26 pm

Bystander: I think you and others are missing my main point here. These high school football players are now being punished for something they have no control over. And if you’re saying that Southeast “did their homework on this one,” then you are condoning the fact that they knowingly held info and purposefuly waited to file a report at a time they knew would penalize not just one transfer student but all the kids on the team. Do you really think that was the best decision a “professional educator” should have made? OR, couldn’t the report have been filed much earlier in the season when the info was known? IF the student in question was illegal then, wouldn’t the student’s ineligability been justified right away? Southeast gets what they wanted, and the rest of the Dalton kids wouldn’t have been punished.
And to answer your question, no, I don’t think the administration at DHS or the Superintendent would have “waited to try and teach them a lesson.” Too much class in that system to do that.

BILLY MAYS HERE

October 26th, 2011
5:39 pm

Yes keep pointing fingers at everyone but yourself, it’s a surefire debate tactic.

Dalton Dawg

October 26th, 2011
6:16 pm

I personally know the student involved and it had nothing to do with recruiting. He felt he had a better chance at getting a football scholarship if he played for Dalton than if he played for Southeast. I’m sure other students in Whitfield County feel the same way. The majority of Dalton’s players that have received college scholarships have lived in Dalton’s district or been going to Dalton Public Schools the majority of their lives. If these players that we are “recruiting” are so good then why aren’t get getting football scholarships? You should think before you start assuming.

BILLY MAYS HERE

October 26th, 2011
6:22 pm

You should think before posting