How Top 10 Fared: Camden jumps to No. 1 after Hillgrove knocks off McEachern

Class AAAAA is about as hard to rank as it’s been since 2006, when five different teams took their turns at No. 1 in the regular-season along, then Roswell and Peachtree Ridge shared it in the end.

Why Camden this week? When there’s so little separation among the unbeaten teams, sometimes it’s best to let history be the guide. Camden and Grayson are programs you can trust. They’ve earned the benefit of the doubt over the others that are chasing them. Both were ranked highly from the start. They were supposed to be state contenders, and they’ve done nothing to suggest otherwise.

Class AAAAA

1. Camden County (6-0)

Last week: Beat Benedictine 56-6. HB/DB J.J. Green rushed for 71 yards and two touchdowns on four carries, made three tackles and intercepted a pass. Jarrad Davis had seven tackles, three for losses. Brice Ramsey was 7-for-12 passing for 97 yards. It was 42-6 at halftime. Camden has won 81 consecutive games that count in region standings. Next: Friday at Groves (5-1)

2. Grayson (6-0)

Last week: Beat Dacula 34-14. Robert Nkemdiche, Grayson’s 270-pound back/noseguard, scored on runs of 17 and 25 yards in Grayson’s 20-point second quarter that gave the Rams a 20-0 halftime lead. Nick Schuessler was 10-of-12 passing for 165 yards and two touchdowns. Dacula was held to less than 100 yards rushing. Next: Friday at Parkview (4-2)

3. Hillgrove (6-0)

Last week: Beat McEachern 12-10. Hillgrove broke a 10-10 tie with a safety with 3:48 to play, when McEachern was attempting to punt but snapped the ball over the head of the punter, who kicked it out the back of the end zone. Kenyan Drake rushed for 188 yards on 25 carries and had a 62-yard run in the fourth quarter that set up the game-tying field goal. Quarterback Elijah Ironside was 10-of-17 passing for 102 yards and a touchdown, which went 25 yards to Kelvin Cameron in the second quarter. Next: Friday at North Cobb (3-3)

4. Stephenson (6-0)

Last week: Beat Newton 34-6. Mike Davis rushed for 219 yards and two touchdowns on 16 carries. Stephenson took a 20-0 lead into halftime after Kyle Fleetwood’s 52-yard interception return for a score. T.J. Moon had 90 yards rushing and a touchdown on 16 carries, and Josh Parrish scored Stephenson’s fifth touchdown on a 23-yard reception. Next: Friday vs. Langston Hughes (2-4)

5. M.L. King (6-0)

Last week: Beat Luella 49-42. Jonquel Dawson was 27-of-34 passing for 449 yards and four touchdowns, which included the game-winner – a 45-yarder to Carnell Boyd – with about four minutes left to break a 42-42 tie. Dawson completed passes to eight receivers, and three had more than 100 yards. Boyd had eight catches for 122 yards, Josh Stafford seven for 111, and Blake Tibbs six for 119. Luella forced four turnovers and had five scoring plays of more than 40 yards, including the returns of a fumble (91 yards), interception and kickoff. Next: Friday vs. Newton (3-3)

6. Walton (6-0)

Last week: Off. Next: Friday at Cherokee (1-6)

7. McEachern (5-1)

Last week: Lost to Hillgrove 12-10. McEachern had the ball in Hillgrove territory on four of its five first-half drives yet came away with just three points, a 49-yard field goal by Nicholas St. Germain in the second quarter. McEachern’s only touchdown came on a 10-yard fumble return by Da’Quavious Lewis on the first play of the fourth quarter that gave the Indians a 10-7 lead. Quarterback Trent Thompson was 17-of-33 passing for 204 yards but had two interceptions in Hillgrove territory. It was the first region loss since 2008 for the Indians, who were outgained 293-266. Next: Friday at Pebblebrook (3-3)

8. North Gwinnett (5-1)

Last week: Beat Norcross 29-22. Trailing 22-0, North Gwinnett scored 29 points in the final 14 minutes. North’s comeback appeared over when Norcross stopped a fourth-and-goal from the 8 early in the fourth quarter, preserving a 22-7 lead. But North’s Justin Thomas returned a Norcross fumble 16 yards for a touchdown that cut the lead to 22-14 with 8:03 left. North’s Joseph Jones scored the tying touchdown on a 2-yard run, and North made a 2-point conversion pass to make it 22-22 with 2:09 left. At 1:08, Donnie Miles made an interception at the Norcross 37. After a 25-minute delay (the lights went out), North drove for the winning touchdown, another 2-yard run by Jones with 16 seconds left. Next: Friday vs. Mountain View (2-4)

9. Valdosta (6-1)

Last week: Beat Lowndes 21-17. Valdosta scored two touchdowns in the final minute and broke a seven-game losing streak in this rivalry’s 50th game. Shelby Wilkes was 16-of-25 passing for 205 yards and three touchdowns. His 5-yard TD pass to Sherrod Inman cut Lowndes’ lead to 17-14 with 48 seconds left. Valdosta’s Randy Cook recovered kicker Dale Kent’s onside kick. On Valdosta’s third play, Wilkes hit Avery Burney on a 35-yard TD for the lead with 17 seconds left. Next: Friday at Coffee (4-3)

10. Lowndes (5-2)

Last week: Lost to Valdosta 21-17. Lowndes’ Mike Moore rushed for 142 yards on 17 carries. Lowndes held Valdosta to less than 50 yards in total offense in the first half, but Valdosta finished ahead 245-228 in total yards, with Valdosta getting 108 of those yards in the final 75 seconds. Next: Friday at Colquitt County (6-1)

Class AAAA

1. Tucker (6-0)

Last week: Beat Mays 50-7. Yusef Minor had three catches for 95 yards and two touchdowns and returned a kickoff 91 yards for a score as Tucker won a game between unbeaten Region 6 teams. Dallas Rivers rushed for 116 yards and two touchdowns on 11 carries. Terrell Simmons returned an interception 74 yards for a touchdown. Next: Friday at Miller Grove (4-2)

2. Northside, Warner Robins (6-0)

Last week: Beat Lee County 45-7. Keshun Hill caught TD passes of 50, 8 and 22 yards and returned a punt 72 yards for a score for Northside, which led 35-7 at halftime. Jack Montgomery was 8-of-10 passing for 112 yards and ran for a touchdown. Next: Friday at Thomas County Central (5-1)

3. Flowery Branch (6-0)

Last week: Beat Habersham Central 56-31. Kanler Coker threw five touchdown passes and was 9-of-16 for 249 yards. He also rushed for 85 yards and a touchdown. Habersham Central QB Kevin Ellison, who broke into GHSF Daily’s Player of the Year Watch last week, rushed for 210 yards and two touchdowns and passed for 139 yards and two touchdowns. Next: Friday at Heritage, Conyers (7-0)

4. East Paulding (6-0)

Last week: Off. Next: Friday at Hiram (3-4)

5. Statesboro (7-0)

Last week: Beat South Effingham 41-17. Sherrodric Rawls rushed for 161 yards on nine carries, and his 71-yard run on the first play of the third quarter made it 28-7. Statesboro completed only one pass, a 53-yard touchdown from Reid Pennington to Quan Daniels. South Effingham put up 335 yards in total offense and 20 first downs, according to the Statesboro Herald, but committed three turnovers to Statesboro’s none. Next: Friday at Evans (2-4)

6. Ware County (5-1)

Last week: Beat Glynn Academy 30-7. Ware intercepted five passes and returned one (by Demetrius Causer) for a touchdown. Bernard Robertson threw an 82-yard halfback pass for a touchdown to Chase Morris (four receptions, 146 yards, two touchdowns). TB/LB Xavier Tobler opened the scoring with a 57-yard run. Seth Starling made a 48-yard field goal. Next: Friday vs. Liberty County (2-4)

7. Marist (5-1)

Last week: Beat Lakeside, Atlanta 53-0. Gray King returned the opening kickoff 86 yards for a touchdown, and Marist led 46-0 at halftime. King also scored two other touchdowns on short runs. Marist led in total yardage 280-73. Next: Friday vs. Dunwoody (3-3)

8. Lovejoy (6-0)

Last week: Beat Mount Zion, Jonesboro 48-0. Lovejoy blocked two punts – giving the Wildcats a state-leading 11 on the season – and got three TD runs from Travis Custis, who finished with 64 yards on six carries. Eugene Fuller scored on a 44-yard fumble return, Junior Huff on a 35-yard interception return, and Brandon Rush on a 5-yard return of a blocked kick. Lovejoy ran only 31 plays, 10 on its opening drive. Next: Friday vs. Jonesboro (6-0)

9. Northgate (6-0)

Last week: Beat Upson-Lee 45-0. Alex Lakes rushed for 99 yards and scored three touchdowns, and Northgate forced five turnovers and led in total yardage 335-172. Lakes scored five touchdowns against Upson-Lee in a 42-7 victory last year. Northgate led 31-0 at halftime. Brett Misutka was 5-of-5 passing for 123 yards. Next: Friday vs. Harris County (4-2)

10. Heritage, Conyers (7-0)

Last week: Beat Winder-Barrow 21-0. Heritage punted four times in the first half and led only 7-0 against a team that has lost 20 consecutive games, but drove 70 and 72 yards for scores on its first two possessions of the second half to pull away. Heritage held Winder-Barrow to 137 yards in total offense. Dominic Craft rushed for 97 yards on seven carries for Heritage. Next: Friday vs. Flowery Branch (6-0)

Class AAA

1. Sandy Creek (6-0)

Last week: Beat Locust Grove 42-0. Junior CB Shaquille Wiggins ran back an interception and a fumble for touchdowns and Sandy Creek led 42-0 at halftime. Wiggins has seven interceptions on the season. JaQuay Williams caught six passes for 148 yards and a touchdown. Cole Garvin was 10-of-11 passing for 212 yards and a touchdown. His only incompletion hit his receiver in the chest. Delvin Weems rushed for 91 yards on 11 carries. Sandy Creek outgained Locust Grove 386-77. Next: Friday at Jackson (3-3)

2. St. Pius (6-0)

Last week: Off. Next: Friday vs. Druid Hills (4-3)

3. Carrollton (6-1)

Last week: Beat LaGrange 56-7. Carrollton had 508 yards in total offense and led 49-7 at halftime. Telvin Brown rushed for 135 yards and three touchdowns on eight carries. D.J. Johnson rushed for 95 yards and a touchdown on 10 carries and had 40 yards and two touchdowns receiving. Carrollton had nine tackles for losses. LaGrange had none. Next: Friday vs. Shaw (3-3)

4. Burke County (5-1)

Last week: Beat Hephzibah 55-6. Burke improved to 12-0 all-time against Hephzibah and won its third straight blow game. Burke has won its past three games by a combined 180-12. Next: Friday vs. Cross Creek (3-3)

5. Allatoona (6-0)

Last week: Beat Murray County 44-0. Allatoona led 42-0 at halftime. Miles Jones and T.J. Herron scored two touchdowns each. Jones finished with 80 yards on five carries. He has 974 unofficially on the season. Next: Friday vs. Cedartown (5-1)

6. Grady (6-0)

Last week: Beat North Atlanta 40-34 in overtime. Next: Friday vs. North Springs (0-6)

7. Thomson (6-0)

Last week: Beat Harlem 63-0. Thomson increased its state-leading scoring offense to 54.8 points per game. Thomson has beaten Harlem nine straight times, none closer than 25 points. Next: Friday at Westside, Augusta (3-3)

8. Baldwin (5-1)

Last week: Beat Perry 21-14. WR Donte Beckham’s 27-yard TD pass to Chris Seal in the fourth quarter made it 21-7. It was Seal’s second TD reception of the game. DeAndre Thomas was 24-for-39 passing for 222 yards and two touchdowns. Baldwin led 352-110 in total yards but lost four turnovers. Perry had three turnovers. Next: Friday vs. Howard (0-6)

9. Gainesville (5-1)

Last week: Beat Oconee County 66-7. Gainesville put up 707 yards in total offense, according to the Gainesville Times. Deshaun Watson had 384 yards passing. Tray Harrison led the team in rushing with 96 yards – on one carry. Rayshon Thomas rushed for three touchdowns, and Stephen Mason had five catches for 104 yards. Gainesville led 47-7 at halftime. Next: Friday vs. Monroe Area (5-1)

10. Cairo (4-2)

Last week: Beat Dougherty 42-13. Cairo led 35-0 at halftime. Terrell Cason, better known for his work at linebacker, scored two touchdowns and rushed for 57 yards, and Steven Bench threw for a touchdown and ran for another. Next: Friday vs. Worth County (3-4)

Class AA

1. Buford (8-0)

Last week: Beat Clarkston 71-0. Buford scored 10 touchdowns, each by a different player, and Vadal Alexander had a sack. Buford led 51-0 at halftime with only 12 plays from scrimmage. It was the fourth time in history that Buford has scored 70 or more points in a game, the first since beating Dacula 75-14 in 1978. Next: Oct. 21 vs. Greater Atlanta Christian (6-0)

2. Calhoun (6-0)

Last week: Beat North Murray 65-7. Taylor Lamb passed for 230 yards and three touchdowns. Calhoun led 44-0 at halftime and outgained North Murray 415-159. Next: Friday vs. Gordon Central (5-1)

3. Carver, Columbus (5-1)

Last week: Beat Manchester 41-0. Carver led 41-0 at halftime and played a scoreless second half with a running clock. Marquez Holloway (100 yards rushing) and Brandon Thomas each scored two touchdowns. Carver had 338 yards in total offense in the first half. Next: Thursday vs. Callaway (4-2)

4. GAC (6-0)

Last week: Beat Decatur 69-31. GAC trailed 25-14 in the second quarter but dominated from there, scoring the next 34 points and outgaining Decatur 475-403 for the game. GAC quarterbacks Delano Spencer and David McTier each ran for two touchdowns. Lavondre Nelson rushed for 147 yards and scored three touchdowns, one on a 65-yard pass, another on a 54-yard kick return. Next: Friday vs. Clarkston (1-5)

5. Brooks County (5-1)

Last week: Off. Next: Friday at Cook (4-2)

6. Elbert County (6-0)

Last week: Beat Hart County 29-7. Tyshon Dye rushed for 156 yards and three fourth-quarter touchdowns. Elbert led only 8-7 in the fourth quarter before breaking away. Next: Friday at Jefferson (5-1)

7. Lovett (5-1)

Last week: Beat Therrell 42-14. Next: Friday vs. Blessed Trinity (3-3)

8. Fitzgerald (6-1)

Last week: Beat Early County 20-14. Trailing 14-12, Fitzgerald got its winning touchdown with 22 seconds left when Kaleb Nobles hit Kevin Coney with a 17-yard pass. Fitzgerald made a two-point conversion for the final margin. It was Coney’s only reception of the game. Fred Hooks caught six passes for 70 yards and rushed for 51 yards. Tolerance Shepherd had 77 yards rushing on 16 carries. Fitzgerald led in total yardage 290-233 and first downs 16-11. Neither team had a turnover. Next: Friday vs. Thomasville (4-3)

9. Dublin (6-0)

Last week: Beat Laney 36-20. Maurice Martin’s 2-yard run with 6:35 left in the third quarter gave Dublin a 36-6 lead. Rob East threw touchdown passes to Cedric O’Neal and Donovan McCloud. McCloud had six receptions for 120 yards. Next: Friday at Swainsboro (2-4)

10. Appling County (6-0)

Last week: Beat McIntosh County Academy 32-0. Appling allowed only 80 yards in total offense and got its third shutout of the season. RB/DB Jordan Vann intercepted three passes, returning one 75 yards for a touchdown. He also had a touchdown receiving. Next: Friday at Tattnall County (3-3)

Class A

1. Savannah Christian (6-0)

Last week: Beat Savannah Country Day 48-0. Jalen Myrick scored touchdowns on a 6-yard run and an 11-yard pass, and Johnathon Chamblee had touchdowns running (49-yarder) and passing. Savannah Christian led 28-0 at halftime and 48-0 at the end of three quarters. Next: Friday at Metter (3-3)

2. Eagle’s Landing Christian Academy (5-1)

Last week: Beat Strong Rock Christian 58-6. Aaron Spratlin was 8-of-9 passing for 133 yards and two touchdowns. John Tatum (two rushes, 68 yards) and Keyante Green (four, 70) each had two touchdowns. Next: Friday at Landmark Christian (6-0)

3. Lincoln County (6-0)

Last week: Off. Next: Friday at Washington-Wilkes (3-3)

4. Wilcox County (7-0)

Last week: Beat Charlton County 28-18. Makail Grace was 19-of-33 passing for 353 yards and two touchdowns and rushed for two scores. His top targets were Quez Mahoganey (eight catches, 174 yards) and Jonathan Howard (seven, 158). Grace’s 4-yard TD run with 7:38 left in the third quarter gave Wilcox the lead for good, 21-15. Wilcox led in total yardage 404-194, according to the Cordele Dispatch. Next: Friday at Turner County (1-5)

5. Marion County (6-0)

Last week: Off. Next: Friday at Central, Talbotton (3-3)

6. Charlton County (6-1)

Last week: Lost to Wilcox County 28-18. Charlton trapped Wilcox QB Makail Grace for two safeties, and Tre Hamilton rushed for 149 yards on 27 carries, but Charlton was ineffective passing and was intercepted three times. Donovan Bolden returned a kickoff 90 yards for a touchdown. Charlton’s 34-game winning streak in regular-season home games was ended. Next: Friday vs. Telfair County (1-6)

7. Landmark Christian (6-0)

Last week: Off. Friday vs. Eagle’s Landing Christian (5-1)

8. Prince Avenue (6-0)

Last week: Beat George Walton Academy 21-10. Rob Farriba rushed for 135 yards on 17 carries, and Hayden Lewis had 105 yards on 15 attempts. Lewis’ 47-yard TD run on third-and-long broke a 7-7 tie on the first possession of the second half. The victory left Prince Avenue and Commerce (3-3, 2-0) as the only 8-A teams without a region loss. Next: Friday at Social Circle (0-6)

9. Bowdon (6-0)

Last week: Off. Next: Friday vs. Darlington (4-2)

10. Holy Innocents’ (5-1)

Last week: Off. Next: Friday at Fellowship Christian (3-3)

407 comments Add your comment

CatFan12

October 9th, 2011
3:05 pm

Called it. Camden 1 Grayson 2 Hillgrove 3. These rankings don’t surprise me at all.

GRRRRRRRRR

October 9th, 2011
4:34 pm

Where’s Colquit Co? They should be ranked!

How 'bout

October 9th, 2011
4:36 pm

how does a team jump from one place from 2nd to 1st?

Stephenson's Finest

October 9th, 2011
4:42 pm

WOW how does a team go from 8 to 3 but a 2 loss lowndes team is still in the top 10. hillgrove won move them up a couple of spots but to skip stephenson and mlk. Now that is disrespectful!!!

Jammerz

October 9th, 2011
4:43 pm

Colquitt Co will not be ranked again untill possibly after they win the region by beating Lowndes and Valdosta,

How 'bout

October 9th, 2011
4:50 pm

at least the AJC stated it correctly, “When there’s so little separation among the unbeaten teams…” You could take these ten, add two or three others, put them in a helmet, shake it up and just start pulling names to get just as a relevant ranking as this one…

Touchdown34

October 9th, 2011
4:51 pm

I agree with “GRRRRRR”, Colquit Co. should be in ahead of Lowndes because they have more quality wins. I would also flip flop Stephenson and MLK. Nice to see my Cats finally crack the top 10.

MS ~ Hillgrove dad

October 9th, 2011
5:02 pm

Contrast Camden for the #1 ranking. Your program is first class and deserves to be where you are. Grayson is another great program…

As for Hillgrove jumping over Stephenson and MLK. ABSOLUTELY! I guess Stephenson’s Finest forgot the score last year when Hillgrove beat you in the playoffs. While HG is only in its 5th full season of football, they continue to improve and beat teams that everyone says we’re supposed to lose too. They play with heart and confidence that is usually only seen with the Camdens and Grayson’s of the world.

We beat the #1 team and they didn’t even have an offensive TD against us. Hillgrove deserves its #3 ranking…

at the 10...5...TD!

October 9th, 2011
5:16 pm

@Stephenson’s Finest…no disrespect but you’re going to have to build your playoff resume before you get upset about the polls. No offense. I have love for the program because the administration there puts emphasis on placing players in college over titles. But that philosophy won’t get you any love from the polls. If you really want to get respect in the polls, I would suggest packing up a couple of busses with all those D1 prospects and going down to Titletown or to Camdem County and earn some respect. And before the good folks at MLK get all riled up, hats off to you getting the “W” at Valdosta a few weeks ago, but again, legendary programs play and win meaningful games in December!!

Stephenson's Finest

October 9th, 2011
5:19 pm

MS Hillgrove Dad This is 2011 not 2010 stop living in the past. Yall had a great yreat season last year, but that has nothing to do with this year. Great win against McEachern but in my opinion it does not mean you should jump 5 spots. your 1 big game was early our 3 are scheduled late so after we go 10-0 does that mean we get to jump ahead of yall?

dawgfan4life

October 9th, 2011
5:28 pm

Brooks Co keep up the good work boyz and keep it rolling. GO TROJANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

at the 10...5...TD!

October 9th, 2011
5:35 pm

@Stephenson’s Finest…again, MS Hillgrove Dad is trying to tell you your past is your present with the polls. Read the first sentence of the second paragraph again.
“Why Camden this week? When there’s so little separation among the unbeaten teams, sometimes it’s best to let history be the guide. Camden and Grayson are programs you can trust.” So far all we can “trust” is that Stephenson will have 20 kids at Andretti’s in February announcing where they are going to play at the next level and then every year it begs the question, “with all that talent how come they don’t make any noise in the playoffs??” Again, load up all those D1 prospects and head south, beat the big boys in December.

Camden74

October 9th, 2011
5:38 pm

Stephenson’s Finest!…… What have you all done to deserve respect? Just chill until you all actually win something, then y’all will get all the respect due to you! :-)

maddball

October 9th, 2011
5:42 pm

lowndes at 5-2 & still ranked at #10 knowing they have 2 travel this fri 2 moultrie & play colquitt co. a 6-1 team….so if cc beats lowndes fri night where does a 1 loss team fit in the rankings????? just curious…its not about the rankings,,,,its about the respect…….i guess we cant get no respect till playoff time….wooooow!!!!!!!!…probably half of these team ranked in 5aaaa wont go as far as cc will…..these rankings sucks,,,,but its fine …we’re just gon go out & do what we do from week 2 week & that is handle business…lowndes…i got love 4 you ,,,but fri night when you leave moultrie,,,,you will have a eye full of tears

Summit Dawg

October 9th, 2011
5:48 pm

What in the world happened to E.C.I vs Portal at Homecoming?????????????????????????????
Apparently took them too lightly!!!!

Todd Holcomb

October 9th, 2011
5:53 pm

The Lowndes-Colquitt thing will be decided this week. The reason Lowndes is ranked higher for now is that Lowndes has lost to two ranked AAAAA teams, while Colquitt has lost to one unranked AAAA team. On the flipside, Colquitt has looked pretty strong in wins over TCC & Tift. So one could argue either side of that, but it’s hard to rank a AAAAA team that lost to an unranked AAAA team (WR) that happened to lose to what’s now an unranked AAA team (Peach).

re: Hillgrove v MLK/Stephenson. Hillgrove jumped the Jags because Stephenson doesn’t have any win comprable to Hillgrove’s. MLK has a win comparable to Hillgrove’s (in valdosta). … Maybe the MLK-Stephenson winner (if 10-0) will wind up higher than a 10-0 Hillgrove. We’ll see. As I said, it’s tough to rank ‘em. There are too many mysteries to be answered.

East Coweta

October 9th, 2011
6:01 pm

Sorry, But EC should be ranked. Still #1 scoring D in 5A. They are just winning they are winning convincingly.

Valdosta-Lowndes Co. (28 State Titles)

October 9th, 2011
6:05 pm

Its good to see my Schools made the polls. But, that means absolutely nothing to me. All I care about is one of them winning the Title!!

Nigerian Nightmare (Alumni)

October 9th, 2011
6:24 pm

just know that when MLK play Stephenson for the region championship, it will be another disappointment for the Jaguars..MLK still has the offensive threat they had last year and a new and improve defense…their defensive has improve tremendously…all I can say is watch out for MLK with their 90 dawgs.

Bigdaddyc

October 9th, 2011
6:34 pm

Was Valdosta ranked when Lowndes beat them?

Bigdaddyc

October 9th, 2011
6:37 pm

Everything looks good to me except those last two spots… Todd looks like a wimp to me for not leaving Lowndes out! Yea Todd, I’m calling you out! That’s a joke to have a two loss team in the top ten at this time!!!!

Bigdaddyc

October 9th, 2011
6:37 pm

Why Not Lassiter who has only lost to a ranked team?

57Cat

October 9th, 2011
6:38 pm

Todd, I agree with your rationale in ranking Lowndes 10th. The football team probably deserves to be there. Can’t say as much for their coaches. They shut down their offense in the 2nd half of the Winnersville Classic while the Cats never quit.

East Coweta

October 9th, 2011
6:39 pm

@Nigerian Nightmare- wouldnt just assume that title game.

NHGS 09

October 9th, 2011
6:46 pm

Maybe i’m just half retarded, but….

MLK and Stephenson ahead of McEachern, NG, and Lowndes!?!?!? WHAT? History TODD! You just said, “When there’s so little separation among the unbeaten teams, sometimes it’s best to let history be the guide.” So why are they ranked above these three better teams if you are using history as a guide? That really puzzles me. NG beats a damn good Norcross team and they drop….? Lowndes loses a last minute thriller to the legendary Valdosta program and drops to #10? McEachearn loses to a obviously good Hillgrove team and drops 6 spots? Please don’t use the whole, “well Stephenson and MLK should not drop because they have not done anything to deserve it” talk. Lowndes is better than MLK hands down. Lowndes dismantled South Gwinnett unlike MLK. I see the argument because they just lost to Valdosta and MLK beat them last week, but using ‘history’ it makes sense to go with Lowndes. They’re the best 5-2 team in the state. I don’t even have to explain why ranking Stephenson so high is a joke. If you used history as a guide, Stephenson wouldn’t even be ranked. Outside of Parkview and Cedar Grove (teams who have a legit shot to make the playoffs and do well) their opponents are (11-15). MLK has some nice wins, but other than beating Valdosta they have not looked like a #5 team. Both teams are solid, but not better than most of who they are ranked above.

Walton should be # 4 behind Hillgrove (Congrats BTW!!!), NG should be # 6 right behind # 5 McEachern. I’ve seen Stephenson and MLK play twice piece and there’s no way they are better than Walton or McEachern. MLK should be # 7 and Stephenson more like # 10. I understand your reasoning for giving those two the benefit of the doubt. They will prove their worth in a couple weeks. I just can’t believe NG dropped and McEachern fell so far.

Camden74

October 9th, 2011
6:52 pm

NG is lucky even to have won the game! Be happy their where they are, like it’s going to make NG any better by being ranked! :-)

Tellitlikeitis

October 9th, 2011
6:53 pm

Nigerian Nightmare, I agree that MLK will beat Stephenson this year

Todd Holcomb

October 9th, 2011
7:00 pm

Bigdaddyc – I can’t respond to your question unless you tell me who should be ranked ahead of Lowndes. Just to say they shouldn’t be ranked doesn’t give me enough to go on. I can only say that the #10 team in the state can be expected to lose to the #7 and #9 teams in the state.

re: East Coweta – I don’t doubt EC is better, but EC has not played a team that will make the playoffs. EC was 7-0 last season, and EC was 7-4 last season. Maybe EC is a top-10 team, but it has done nothing to prove it.

NGHS 09 – Go back and read your post.

”MLK and Stephenson ahead of McEachern, NG, and Lowndes!?!?!? WHAT? History TODD! You just said, “When there’s so little separation among the UNBEATEN teams, sometimes it’s best to let history be the guide.” So why are they ranked above these three better teams if you are using history as a guide?”

McEachern, North Gwinnett and Lowndes are not unbeaten. :)

DC24

October 9th, 2011
7:01 pm

Why the hell are you all arguing about rankings? There’s a tournament at the end of the year that will determine who the best team is…

NHGS 09

October 9th, 2011
7:02 pm

Camden 74…Where would the world be without your wisdom…

NHGS 09

October 9th, 2011
7:06 pm

I’m not even trying to be biased. Those rankings are just bad.

NHGS 09

October 9th, 2011
7:06 pm

Lassiter has played better teams than Stephenson, but they aren’t ranked. Norcross has played better competition than Stephenson, but are not ranked.

Todd Holcomb

October 9th, 2011
7:09 pm

OK, I guess Pebblebrook and Troup might make the playoffs, and East Coweta played them. But I think we know what I mean.

NHGS 09

October 9th, 2011
7:14 pm

Only hot air I suppose…I do commend Stephenson for always making the playoffs every year. That’s the most important thing if you want to win a title. Maybe this is their year…we will see.

Todd Holcomb

October 9th, 2011
7:19 pm

”Why the hell are you all arguing about rankings? There’s a tournament at the end of the year that will determine who the best team is”

Because it’s FUN. Enjoy it. That’s part of the joy of sports – arguing who’s the best. Fans want their teams to win, but they also want respect. Rankings are a measure of that respect. But mostly, it’s just part of the fun of high school football.

Stephenson's Finest

October 9th, 2011
7:24 pm

Nigerian Nightmare (Alumni) you need to get through 3 teams before looking to play us. East Coweta your schedule is frontloaded with your easiest games. last year it was the same thing with your great defense that we dismantled. what have you changed nothing. The same kids that beat the brakes off you last year are back. Surprise!!! NHGS 09 its funny how you group yourself with camden or lowndes to legitimize your statement. N Gwinnett Mceachern grayson walton norcross and hillgrove have won just as many championships as stephenson. There can be only 1 champ everyone else is a non champion or last. only guys that can talk about us not winning the ring are the ones that have won the ring.

NHGS 09

October 9th, 2011
7:31 pm

@ Todd…Yes, but that was not the big picture i was trying to show. Being undefeated and the best team you have played is Parkview? And you say Stephenson is better than Walton, McEachern, NG, Lassiter, Norcross, Valdosta, and Lowndes….I just don’t see the justification. How is a team with one loss (i.e. McEachern, NG, Lassiter, Norcross, Valdosta) to a current top 10 team ranked lower than Stephenson? And how do they get the nod just because they are undefeated?? They haven’t even played a top 10 team, much less a team who is a contender in AAAAA. MLK has the perfect record, but their only signature win is over Valdosta. They barely beat Luella and have not beat a current top ten team other than Valdosta. I guess I just don’t see your reasoning. East Coweta should be geting the same love as Stephenson since they are undefeated lol. I would love it if NG wasn’t even ranked. To much pressure and unwanted attention.

NHGS 09

October 9th, 2011
7:36 pm

Stephenson’s Finest… I didn’t include Camden in anything I said about NG. I did with Lowndes, but I went into detail about how good Lowndes is; not comparing the two. You always seem to misread and misunderstand what i post. I never even said the word Camden. I’m legitimately waiting for a reason why Stephenson is ranked @ #4 instead of being childish and saying, “Doesn’t matter because Stephenson will flake out in the 1st round like always.” I want to give your JAGS the benefit of the doubt, but I just don’t see a logical explanation. I know it’s just a stupid ranking, but it’s fun/ interesting to talk about.

Camden74

October 9th, 2011
7:49 pm

NGHS 09………Worse off than it is now!……. :-)

Old Gold Panther

October 9th, 2011
7:58 pm

Where is Northgate? Not trying to be funny just never heard of them. And what region are they in?

Camden74

October 9th, 2011
8:01 pm

@Todd…….If at all possible, please, please , please change the rankings! Put Camden back at number 2 and rank STEPHENSON at number one! Do that and let’s see what happens, see if they can carry the weight and live up to the ranking! Personally, I could care less if Camden is ranked right now! Mid December Baby! That’s what I’m waiting for!

Gwinnett Fan

October 9th, 2011
8:09 pm

Has everyone noticed that the GHSA has changed the playoff format this year? Winners of the first round from the North cross over and play winners from the south in the second round instead of the usual third round.

This changes everything, The number one seed from 7AAAAA has a potentially brutal path to the dome. If things fall in to place they could play all the wing T powers in Georgia.

potential match ups include:

2nd round Lowndes
3rd round Camden
semi: Grayson

I realize you have to beat the best to be the best but that is a really tough path to the dome. Alternatively, you could end up with a 3rd round classic at Camden with a Camden / Lowndes rematch. How about a Grayson / Lowdnes rematch or Camden / Grayson in the semi? It is going to be a great playoff season. A lot of games to be played in the mean time.

Good luck to all teams. Any one in the current top ten could end up in the finals.

No to camden county

October 9th, 2011
8:10 pm

Wow!! If I was a AAAAA coach I would schedule AA and AAA schools so I could be ranked #1. What a piece of $%^. camden county will not even face a AAAAA school until the first round of the play-offs and then it will be a #4 seed. Things like this is why Georgia high school football ranks way down the list to Texas, Florida and California. Georgia high school play-off format is a joke and is aligned so the game is not always won on the field but in the seedings. Also, STOP playing home field in the play-offs and play a neutral field agreed to by the two teams playing. Why can’t the GHSA simpletons understand this? The educational field is full of liberals so why so biased a play-off structure?

Bigdaddyc

October 9th, 2011
8:25 pm

I told you who… Lassiter! Who has one loss from a ranked team!

Bigdaddyc

October 9th, 2011
8:29 pm

My ?… Was Valdosta ranked last week If not Lowndes has two loses. One from a Ranked team and one from an unranked team. I don’t understand how they remain in the top ten.

Bigdaddyc

October 9th, 2011
8:32 pm

I sure don’t understand your thinking with ranking Camden #1… They may end up #1, that it still makes no sence to me… Unless you plan on moving them down in a week or two.. Just because you want to.

Camden74

October 9th, 2011
8:34 pm

No to Camden County…..You are so ignorant about football! Texas, Florida and California has 2-3 times the population of Georgia! It is only natural that these states would produce more top players! Please, get a clue! One more thing, I’m sure you already know, but I’ll repeat it anyway, Camden has control over only TWO games on it’s schedule! And since the Northern Powers don’t want Camden in the Corky Kell Classic anymore, Camden has to go outside of the state to find teams secure enough to play them! And stop hiding behind bogus screen names and identify which school/s you support! Right now you’re looking like a coward!

VHS 78' Alumni/ Hillgrove HS Parent

October 9th, 2011
8:42 pm

MS-HILLGROVE DAD…….you are right on the page….except…..HILLGROVE HS does deserve to be ranked #1!

These “NORTH GEORGIA” teams have no clue of the STRENGTH “SOUTH GEORGIA” teams in terms of schedule they face! For McEachen to take a win from LOWNDES, and then for VALDOSTA to beat LOWNDES after a 7 YEAR DROUGHT just demontrates the drive and tenacity these SOUTH GEORGIA teams play with!….They play for keeps!!!

For HILLGROVE HS to beat McEachern the way they did demontrates the STRENGTH and TENACITY of our young program…..guided by Coach Ironsides and the strong coaching staff it has! It is all in the coaching! I have personally witnessed “MEDOCRE VALDOSTA TEAMS” whip NORTH GEORGIA Teams in years past, win state titles and were not given the respect they reserve by the ATLANTA RAG….The AJC!

For HILLGROVE HS not to be placed in the #1 spot is typical for AJC sports writers! VALDOSTA & LOWNDES are still teams that are still in persuit and in the day…the state championship ran through VALDOSTA! Do not count them out!

From a VALDOSTA HIGH ALUMNI Perspective, who has seen VALDOSTA TEAMS WIN and know WINNING COACHES……HILLGROVE HS ….HAS THE WINNING FORMULA!!!

I will also tell you….HILLGROVE HS is not going away in years to come!!! HILLGROVE HS….Keep playing like you have the “TARGET ON YOUR BACK”….because when you finally are bestowed it by the AJC RAG…..you will be the only team untouched!!! GO FUTURE 10-0 HAWKS!!!

battleaxe kid

October 9th, 2011
8:49 pm

back from mouning…… na,….. yea……….. Why in the WORLD have they got us #10, take it down, what are they thinking????? These ranikings mean nothing.. Said it first week and i’ll say it again…. Means nothing but to brag and get the big head, and 14 pts, in 48 sec. scored on us should not be ranked nowm aand well as #1 before 1 snap from center before the season began….

You cannot continue to beat at team like Valdosta, or any team for that matter year end and tear out. 7 yrs striaght, i thought it would have ended last year, but we held on to qin. But his yr, the hugreieset tema won.
We can find ALL the excuses we want but soundly lost, Holes throughout our team this yr. Don’t get me wrong i am with my Vikes till the end, (no fair weather fan) but were out coached out played. many has blogged as I read about arrogance, that is completely wrong, overconfident is NOT the samr thing.

We knew it was gona be a cat fight,. We played only 44.12 min. The Cats played 45.00 entier mintues.

MR and coach Mac play the same stly of ball, and as we saw Sat. ir just about cost the bukkdigs, same thing, get the lead, lay down and hope…… the other team doesn’t come back… Come on Man.

And boy what a game up north what was the score. What ya;ll all expected for ya’lls team? problay closer that we all thought…
NG wins, they din’t let that 1 Loss didn;t keep um down, good for them..
Mce perfect record wiped out, knew that was coming, Will they be a 15-0 team in 5a this year??? Don’t look like it. Some dominate teams out there ands will be even unto the end…

I hope we all support our boys win or lose…… I do don’t like to lose, and now another fight to the finish with Col. Co. the team that was 5- and played for it all, last year. So to all out there that does make it in the playoffs, hold your head up play as hard as your the ENTIRE game, and give it all you got , whether win or lose, it is comp.Perservarance that builds character, hope and hope faith, so keep the faith and our young men will be better off for it……

Lookin good Ga. high school ftball.. keep it up…

battleaxe kid

October 9th, 2011
8:59 pm

Hey ya’ll heard for bk———-bs———-? boy he’s got the lowndes/downs.. Come on Man……..