AAAAA blog: Region races come into focus

Five things we might learn this week in AAAAA –

1. Who are the real challengers to Stephenson and M.L. King in Region 2? Those are the state-ranked teams from this region, but we’ll get a sense of who’s next in line when East Coweta (3-0) plays Luella (3-0) and Newton (3-0) plays Newnan (1-2).

2. Can Etowah defend its title in Region 5? This region plays its first region games this week, and Etowah (2-2) went 6-0 last season. The new region favorite, Walton (4-0), visits Etowah on Friday.

3. Who will challenge Grayson in Region 8? Grayson, ranked No. 3 in the state, is the clear favorite in Region 8. Games between defending champion Brookwood (2-2) and Central Gwinnett (3-1), and returning playoff teams Parkview (1-2) and South Gwinnett (1-3) will suggest Grayson’s top rival.

4. Can Roswell win, finally? Roswell is 0-4 for the first time since 1952, but not written off in not-so-strong Region 6. The Hornets hope to win their opener at North Forsyth, another 0-4 team.

5. Can Lowndes dominate a good Class AAAA team? Lowndes was No. 1 until the McEachern loss and has beaten Leon, Fla. 39-22 and Burke County 31-21, but not without some struggle. Lowndes beat Ware 3-0 last season, and Ware is probably a better team this time around.

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Jammerz

September 22nd, 2011
11:37 am

Lowndes will be okay against Ware and will most likely win, but if they lose they will have 2 weeks to focus on Valdosta. If that is the case the folks in Valdosta need to hope thier D is a good as they think it is this year

WolverineFan

September 22nd, 2011
12:24 pm

WOW! West Forsyth is 4-0 leading the region of “not so strong” 6 but not even a mention. Great Reporting. It would be nice if you would focus more on current players and teams and not records of the past. High school players vary greatly from year to year, it is not accurate to predict this way. Focus on the FACTS N PLAYERS of each team.

AVikingFan

September 22nd, 2011
12:52 pm

Lowndes, a team with a lot of new starters and young players is improving each week, especialy at the QB, OL, Corner Back, and Line Backer positions. I like our chances. Reminds me a lot of our 07 team.

Region6

September 22nd, 2011
12:52 pm

Is there any way for a Region 6 team to be ranked in the top ten. How many region wins would they need to be considered a relevant team.

Eagle Dad

September 22nd, 2011
1:27 pm

My guess is we might see West Forsyth ease into the top 10 by the end of the season. They are likely head and shoulders above any other Region 6 team but that’s not saying much this year. Every other region 6 team is getting waxed when they play decent competition and West Forsyth has not played anyone with any stature in their non-region games. None of their opponents even have a winning record as of right now.

I think West grabs the #1 seed and will likely win their 1st round game against region 5 #4. Round 2 would be a matchup against region 4 #2, most likely the Hillgrove/McEachern loser. Winning that game would be a tall order and definitely a chance for West to prove themselves.

battleaxe kid

September 22nd, 2011
2:00 pm

All this means is what? playoff time again Season is all tied for all 0-0. That means our vikings will waltz into state championsip winners……. hope……. I’m sure there are some good teams out there, but who? no way to measure since 1 5a is the SEC of Ga. regions…….

Eagle Dad

September 22nd, 2011
2:32 pm

battleaxe, took me a while but I now realize you either just like to hear yourself talk, or else you enjoy throwing silly stuff out in an effort to generate more discussion on here and give yourself something to do. No work or studying to do?

battleaxe kid

September 22nd, 2011
2:47 pm

Eagle Dad Yea your right in all areas….Now didn’t you win all that money the otner night? Yea just trying to generate some chat…. I actually see no clear decisive teams out their. I’ve been waiting for some to see them sepatate themselves, Must be pariouty, this year around 5a teams. Do you think that even as the nation ranks some of the lower class divisions, that there is a 4a or even a 3a team that could play weekly with 5 a comp, just talking this year now..

battleaxe kid

September 22nd, 2011
2:55 pm

Sure Mce, beat us and a few undefeatd 5a teams left but again how will they be measured until playoffs???Surely this ranking mess is out the window. we see this EVERY week. I’d like to think that we are better than wwe are but in the clutch just can’t do it. even the better teams in 5a……. I know the “on any given day” thing, but if your as good as many say that they are they should win reguardless. Is it all in coaching the boys up, experience, home field adv.? or all or none of the above? Again that’s why i say don’t see any sepapration…

for instance we played Burke last week, good team ranked 3a, 31-14 at half, middle of 3rd qtr. put in replacements, ending score 31-21.. So is that’s what’s happening this year, other than the blowouts of 55-0, and 70-0, like some games has been.

battleaxe kid

September 22nd, 2011
3:00 pm

And by the way do you much about this 6a division next year, like who’s in it or where to go to find that info.. thanks.

battleaxe kid

September 22nd, 2011
3:06 pm

Please don’t make me have to just write to read my self (write)???????

Eagle Dad

September 22nd, 2011
3:10 pm

Yeh, made a pile off that Lowndes/Mac game. I guess everyone was so caught up in Lowndes wanting payback, Lowndes playing at home and the Mac coach mentioning a victory dance on his itenerary it was believed there was no way on earth the Indians could come in there and win. The fact they did despite all of that is very impressive, you got to admit.

I agree there is not a cleart-cut favorite in 5A. I like it this way…probably anyone in the current Top 10 has a legitimate shot this season and maybe even a couple of more not in there now. Rankings do not mean nothing- Camden was sitting at #1 last season and unranked Hillgrove came in there and snatched it away.

6A info won’t be put out until end of this year, at the earliest. Probably will be more like next spring.

battleaxe kid

September 22nd, 2011
3:15 pm

Okay here goes.. Kind of reminds me of our 2007 team, loss to I think harrison, helped us get on track, and had a good run from then on out, and won state. So maybe with the Mce. loss early could be shaping up to be same kind of year. We did have Reid that year, and that helped, but we have some boys that are almost as good and more of them. We have an awesome dfense, and the oline is blocking better now than they were in 07. So I think we a a lagit team sound in many areas but holes in a few. that is the exception in ou 07 team. We had a kicker, and he was good. this as well as last haven’t one. We are not as good at special teams this year either. I beleive we are just as fast. But the main thing I see is that we are improving every game, as is the rest of state too.

Mystic River

September 22nd, 2011
3:17 pm

M.L. King will reign supreme in Region 2AAAAA

battleaxe kid

September 22nd, 2011
3:24 pm

I have been looking at Lassiter. Looks like they are sound. I thought they were a baseball school? In 1999 we beat them for the state baseball championship. Of couse we had the Drew boys then. But they came in as sleepers and don’t know if they have been tested yet. Hillgrove is sounding off too. So We know the same out of the teams that are always there but looks like a different type of season for all in 5a this year….

I still like our chances even if we don’t win region, tha’s still up in the air until region play begins week after next with Valdosta coming to our place… and I know Col. was overrated and we have beat them 10 or so straight but we go to the Hig Pen, Col. Co. play Coffee at home, and Tifty we play there. In paper today Valdosta’s qb got broke toe and will be out the next 2 games, and MLK will be coming to Valdosta to play them next week. so we’ll see what both of those teams have. i hope ya’ll we in playoffs all except when playing us… And did you get me blog after winning all that money??? can you float me a loan to get ino the game fri. nite. ha ha ha ……….. have a good season and hope players and all stay safe in all travels…

battleaxe kid

September 22nd, 2011
3:29 pm

Okay dod if you were to pick 2 teams for state game who would it be, right now…??? And this is hard for me, but Colquitt finished strong last year with new coach, and they are in our region. I would pick them to go further that us……. man i’m gona get beat up tonite for that statement. And It is a toss up Maybe Hillgrove, and Lassiter, If I were a betting amn and if i wasn’t broke from the (you know what game)……

West Cobb

September 22nd, 2011
3:30 pm

What ever happened to Harrison?

No passing game, no run game and no play offs in 2011. LOL This is what happens when Dads influence a Head Coach.

'96Plowboy#27

September 22nd, 2011
3:31 pm

ok b.a.kid & Eagle dad here’s my take on this year’s 5A classification. as of right now, i.m.o.o. i believe camden county is the favorite to win. with that being said lowndes is a mirror image of camden. unless the vikes make some major improvements i don’t see that being the state championship game. i stay in the metro atlanta area & i watch the games up here & pay attention to the games back home. i do believe that mceachern is a solid football team, but if they don’t find some sort of a running game to go with all that throwing they’re doing they’ll be a loss waiting for them in the 2nd or 3rd round of the playoffs. Norcross, Valdosta, & Walton are all sneaky good teams. I really like how Walton is playing football. They have a punishing running game, & those brothers on defense are truly playmakers.

battleaxe kid

September 22nd, 2011
3:32 pm

Okay the 2 5a teams that will be in the state final game. Lowndes, Col Co. Lass. and Millcreek. Oh that’s 4 I am a Lowndes graduate can’t add….

battleaxe kid

September 22nd, 2011
3:34 pm

I don’t see Camden at all this year, love um but….

WaltonFanJD

September 22nd, 2011
3:35 pm

i like how walton is playing, i think our test will be this week and next week, after that it will be business as usual until the third round of the play offs

WaltonFanJD

September 22nd, 2011
3:38 pm

tyren jones is unstoppable, and our defense stingy

'96Plowboy#27

September 22nd, 2011
3:39 pm

Valdosta reminds me of Colq.County of last year. I can see them getting the third seed from rg1 & getting a favorable schedule in the playoffs then doing some damage. Norcross has some talented players, especially on offense. however i’d like to see their defense against a top notch offense. I continue to read posts about this stephenson team & all their D-1 prospects & i can’t help but think that they’ll make some noise somewhere down the line & probably be outcoached. now i haven’t seen stephenson play, but “where there is smoke there’s bound to be some fire” RIGHT? Now speaking not being able to coach the good athletes you’ve got Grayson seems to fit into this category. We all know they’ll make the playoffs & go deep, but will end up losing because Conn may be out coached.

'96Plowboy#27

September 22nd, 2011
3:42 pm

on the flip side of gwinnett, don’t take your eyes off of Brookwood. yea i know they already have a couple of losses, but there’s an experienced coaching staff that knows how to coach & get a team ready for the playoffs, even though i don’t think that they’ll be in the championship game, they’ll definitely knock someone out of the playoffs that they shouldn’t (ask McEachern family from 2 years ago).

Eagle Dad

September 22nd, 2011
3:44 pm

Doggone, West Cobb- that is strong but the truth hurts, as they say. I have heard from many folks that daddy ball really picked up at Harrison after Cobleigh retired. It is easy to dismiss such talk because you just do not want to believe it happens but there is so much smoke there just has to be a fire.

The fact is they just are not the same program they were. They do not have a Godhigh or Oliver or Abate or Darvin Adams type athlete in the program anymore. The kid they have at QB has some good tools but the fact he never started until this year is showing itself. I heard their running back moved away in the middle of the season. They struggle to score against teams they once hung 40 on. All they seem to have left is a decent defense but I sure do not see them holding Hillgrove or Mceachern under 28.

'96Plowboy#27

September 22nd, 2011
3:47 pm

@ b.a.kid, you really don’t see camden being good? wow, that’s surprising. all of those freshman & sophmores from their state championship team from 2 years ago are now juniors & seniors. that’s one reason Hillgrove was able to go down there in Kingsland & beat Camden. those kids were still young. speaking of hillgrove i forgot to mention them as one of the surprise teams. Now i haven’t seen them play, but you heard it first from me as long as the clock doesn’t go out at McEachern’s field, Hillgrove may upset the Indians in the battle of Powder Springs. Don’t be surprised if Hillgrove goes deep into the playoffs.

battleaxe kid

September 22nd, 2011
3:50 pm

VAldosta WILL NOT be there this year. they are already making excuses, qb’s toe hurts, etc…… Norcrooss we’ll soon see. Brookwood, don’t see it. Gayson, can’t win the big one’s never has, Can’t speak to that much more, we can’t either. And it could be a team that None of us have even mentioned that could win it all, don’t ya’ll agree?????

'96Plowboy#27

September 22nd, 2011
3:55 pm

don’t think valdosta will be there in the end, that’s why i said that they remind me of colquitt of last year. but when they get in the playoffs they’ll take care of a weaker regions 2 & 3 seeds, possibly there 1 seed. i think the state championship game will come from 2 of the teams that we’ve mentioned. Parity is definitely there this year, i don’t see a clear cut favorite team.

Eagle Dad

September 22nd, 2011
3:56 pm

I have not made up my mind about Hillgrove yet but if they beat Mceachern or even just play them close, I will sure take notice. They just have not played anyone yet who could really challenge them. I know the Drake kid at runningback is the real deal for the Hawks but if their players get caught up in comparing how they beat Marietta bad and the blue devils played Mceachenr tough, well that would be very foolish.

battleaxe kid

September 22nd, 2011
4:22 pm

alright who in state championship game??

battleaxe kid

September 22nd, 2011
4:27 pm

I’ll ask next week…

bksmith14

September 22nd, 2011
5:40 pm

AVikingFan ……………….this team to me looks nothing like the 2007 team. I just dont see as many playmakers. Solid team ??????????? Yes Improving ??????? yes 2007 like ?????? not yet

Panthers

September 22nd, 2011
5:57 pm

Watch out for the Panther Paw they are going to get you.

JIMB

September 22nd, 2011
6:46 pm

Norcross at Mill creek we will see, Mill creek has Russ and two tackles back this week, all were out last week. PBS tv at 8.00 pm. Hopefully the refs won’t be there, heard they were sidelined terrible thing for any school to experience.

battleaxe kid

September 22nd, 2011
8:04 pm

bksmith14 You don’t think that maybe just maybe there are some playmakers on our team. Yea we had reid, and another star on dfense, and no dobt both were good but I see us improving by the game. And we did do that in 07. I believe our bacjfield is just as talented as 07.. A few more games and we’ll know for sure….. I see hope though, and will be able to tell after tomorrow nite..

GwinnettDad

September 22nd, 2011
8:06 pm

When I saw Lowndes play South Gwinnett, the QB for the Vikings seemed to be throwing rainbows, and lacked zip and crispness on his passes. Otherwise, plenty of talent & size everywhere. If Lowndes is to win it all, I’d think the greatest questionmark is at QB.

battleaxe kid

September 22nd, 2011
8:21 pm

GwinnettDad Which qb? we were playing 3. Never throw the ball anyway. we threw 10 passes last week and hadn’t thrown that many all year. Mac never has thrown a lot, hadn’t needed to. That’s why we can’t win the big games.. finally left one qb in last week the entire game. and did alright. Come playoff time. we are going to HAVE to throw to compete… That game we had #10, #12 and #25 in at qbs. Our first string qb went down in preseason practice, but look for him back before the Valdosta game. Don’t know if he’ll be up to speed to play much though.

Nike 11

September 22nd, 2011
9:02 pm

I’m not sure if we will be able to a whole lot after this weekend. I think the next 2 weeks with the Lassiter-Walton and Mac-Hillgrove games will tell us a lot of the Cobb teams. I do think Roswell will rebound in region play after a very tough non-region schedule. But of course, all that matters is how you play over a 5 game stretch in November and December.

Also to battleaxe…Lassiter baseball won state (and a national) title in 1999. Only had 1 or 2 losses the entire year.

GwinnettDad

September 22nd, 2011
9:06 pm

@battleaxe kid Josh Clemens is a stud, an AJC all everything and for good reason, but he was simply at QB for direct snaps against SG. Is #14 Blanton the injured starter? If so, when does he come back. At 5-9, however, he’s gotta be a runner rather than a passer. Thus, isn’t QB still the weak spot of the team?

Cuz after all, to win against Camden, I’d think you’re going to have to throw if you’re going to get many points.

bksmith14

September 22nd, 2011
10:08 pm

GwinnettDad

When I saw Lowndes play South Gwinnett, the QB for the Vikings seemed to be throwing rainbows, and lacked zip and crispness on his passes. Otherwise, plenty of talent & size everywhere. If Lowndes is to win it all, I’d think the greatest questionmark is at QB.

i agree 100%

bksmith14

September 22nd, 2011
10:09 pm

battleaxe kid…………….we have won plety of big games without throwing the ball.

bksmith14

September 22nd, 2011
10:12 pm

lowndes #14 eric blanton …………….senior qb who was prob going to be qb before he got hurt will not be back by valdosta game. He may be back before end of year but he wd have to get into playing shape. It would be a plus if we get him back no doubt.

observer

September 22nd, 2011
10:37 pm

Walton is definitely on the move this year they have Jones who is #2 on the Georgia POY watch a solid junior quarterback who is putting up decent numbers for the run heavy offense they run over there. i have run the numbers and they are averaging 40.5 points a game and only give up 10 points exactly a game they have one stingy defense. now they are working through some injuries all across the board and 2 of there main starters one on the line and one in the secondary are down for a while but they have very capable back ups dont be suprised if you see them sweep the region

Todd Holcomb

September 22nd, 2011
11:15 pm

”WOW! West Forsyth is 4-0 leading the region of “not so strong” 6 but not even a mention. Great Reporting. It would be nice if you would focus more on current players and teams and not records of the past. High school players vary greatly from year to year, it is not accurate to predict this way. Focus on the FACTS N PLAYERS of each team.”

What prediction are you talking about? I don’t see any predictions in this blog. It’s just five questions about what I think will be interesting to find out this weekend. The West Forsyth-Centennial outcome is way down the list, frankly. That doesn’t mean WF isn’t a good team worthy of some recognition, but I don’t think the week of the Centennial game is necessarily the time.

“Is there any way for a Region 6 team to be ranked in the top ten. How many region wins would they need to be considered a relevant team.”

If West Forsyth runs the table, I suspect they’ll be ranked. I’d be surprised if any other R6 team is ranked. One thing I’d look at is how Etowah does. WF beat Etowah 21-13. How will Walton do against Etowah this week?

re: Harrison – I know the Hoyas have slumped. I’m sure they miss Cobleigh, but if Hines had the same talent as two or three of those Harrison teams of the past decade, they’d be fine. The ‘02 team had five major D-I prospects back when that was pretty unusual. They don’t have the same players now. New schools have slowly cut into Harrison’s talent base.

Nike 11

September 23rd, 2011
12:26 am

@ observer: If Walton doesn’t look past Etowah on Friday and get by Lassiter, then if they DON’T go undefeated that would be a shock. I know one of Etowah/Woodstock run a triple option or something very similar to it, so that could give Walton (or Lassiter) problems in hopes of going undefeated until the playoffs. Anything can happen though.

BigMike

September 23rd, 2011
7:42 am

Mce will win it all. If you do not believe me, ask any Hillgrove fan after October 7th. Or ask any Lowndes fan now.

Spectator

September 23rd, 2011
8:06 am

Hillgrove has not had tremendous challenges yet this year, but having an average 33 point spread over 4 games is one of the highest in AAAAA, so they have a lot of elbow room for untested strength. They will need to pony up all the horsepower they can for McEachern, but the win is within reach. They have some pretty sharp skills and use them well, so well see on the 7th.

bksmith14

September 23rd, 2011
9:46 am

BigMike ………….Or ask any Lowndes fan now?????????

Answer is NO they will not. Lowndes will be much improved by playoffs. Hope we meet again but i doubt you guys will make it that far

Eagle Dad

September 23rd, 2011
9:47 am

Hillgrove’s sharp skills is getting the ball to that beast at runningback. That young man makes quite a difference and based on the stats in the paper, seems to be at least 85% of their offensive production. I think their game against Mceachern is going to come down to the Hawk’s defense. Drake will likely get his but I doubt he will llight it up like he has against the North Forsyths on the schedule. So the question will be how many stops can Hillgrove get on the Indians?

Eagle Dad

September 23rd, 2011
9:52 am

bksmith you are quite humorous. You always act like it took the Indians playing a flawless game to beat Lowndes when the true story from others who watched the game is they also made many mistakes that game and still won. Supporting your team does not mean blind allegiance. It also means being honest about their strengths and weaknesses, and those of your opponent as well.