AAAAA blog: We have questions for Hillgrove, Roswell, Printz, Great American Classic

-Is South Cobb a real test for Hillgrove? Hillgrove’s first three opponents are 1-8, which says the Hawks are perhaps the least-tested Top 10 team. This week, they play South Cobb – a 3-0 that that made the playoffs last season. Not only that, South Cobb beat Hillgrove 20-19 last season.

-Can Roswell avoid its first 0-4 start since 1952? Roswell started 0-3 last season and still won Region 6. Can it do it at 0-4? The Hornets, who play at Walton (3-0) on Friday, haven’t been 0-4 since their third year of varsity football. They are playing the toughest non-region schedule of any Region 6 team, so don’t be shocked if they defend their title regardless of the outcome in Raider Valley.

-Can South Gwinnett and Central Gwinnett bring a crowd to the Georgia Dome? Gwinnett County is the metro area’s hotbed for football, and several Gwinnett powers have played in that arena in the Corky Kell Classic or the state semifinals or finals. Saturday’s Dome game will be the first for South and Central as part of the Great American Football Classic, a six-game event over two days.

-Can Region 1 sweep a decent non-region slate? Region 1’s five teams are facing three teams that have been ranked at some point this season – Valdosta at Brunswick, Lowndes vs. Burke County, Coffee at Fitzgerald. Colquitt County plays at Warner Robins, and Tift County travels to Worth County. All are smaller school, but expect some surprises – kinda like the one last year when Valdosta beat Brunswick 64-62.

-Is Eddie Printz this year’s Taylor Heinicke? Printz, Lassiter’s junior quarterback, has had two monster games in a row in passing and has 887 yards and eight touchdowns in three games. In 2010, a record seven Georgia quarterbacks threw for more than 3,000 years, led by Collins Hill’s Heinicke at 4,218. Printz is near Heinicke’s pace, but Heinicke got to play 14 games. Lassiter plays Milton on Friday.

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battleaxe kid

September 15th, 2011
11:20 am

Your answer about region 1 sweep…NO. Coffee has got a long way to go. Tift is not proven, Valdosta at B. B. gave V. all they wanted last year in Death Valley, Colquitt is going to No man’s territory, and it is according to which Lowndes team shows up. Burke is good. Coffee looses by 14, Tift may win by other teams mistakes, if they don’t shoot themselves in the foot. Colquitt will blow it. and Lowndes?????

battleaxe kid

September 15th, 2011
11:21 am

Oh Valdosta, will have a long ride home…….. got beat up last week, and will not have the 12th and 13th man to help um….

battleaxe kid

September 15th, 2011
11:25 am

Sounds like Lassiter is not a sleeper anymore. can’t win with a one man team EVERY game…

NGHS 09

September 15th, 2011
11:26 am

Yeah he probably is, but Heinicke did it against better and tougher teams in a region with WAYY better opponents and went on a treacherous playff off run that was one game away from the dome.

Camden74

September 15th, 2011
11:55 am

Camden will win region 3!… :-) Then, the Georgia 5A football title!

Hawksfan

September 15th, 2011
12:19 pm

Hillgrove lost to South Cobb last year playing a Freshman QB after their Senior QB broke his nose. And South Cobb this year has given up 82 points in 3 games, Hillgrove has given up 8 points in 3 games, while scoring 114. This is a lock…. Kenyan Drake goes for 200

Todd Holcomb

September 15th, 2011
12:47 pm

Hawksfan – I don’t disagree, just hope the QB issues are resolved. I hear the original starter could be back this week after the backup led ‘em to a 3-0 start. Now the backup is injured. But I don’t expect SC to put up a major challenge.

bksmith14

September 15th, 2011
1:12 pm

tift county is a good football team …… better than last year. Coffee……..talent…no coaching.

Lowndes….valdosta…..and colquitt will decide region 1 5aaaaa

bksmith14

September 15th, 2011
1:13 pm

brunswick will keep game close early against the cats, but i expect the cats to win by 14 and hold brunswick to 10 or less

THE TRUTH

September 15th, 2011
2:07 pm

@hawksfan and Todd Holcomb you could be right about South Cobb but Hilgrove hasn’t played a good team yet as well. This South Cobb team could upset you again if you guys take them lightly. From what I hear Hilgrove’s QB issues are something to worry about for this game! I have been told 2-4 weeks for lilttle Ironside and that the other guy is a game time decision. I will say this I want Hilgrove to win because I want to see 2 teams undefeated when they meet at Walter Cantrell Stadium.

Hawksfan

September 15th, 2011
3:39 pm

First of all let me correct myself, Hillgrove has given up 29, while scoring 134. a small difference. Anyway, in these previous 3 games, starters have come out early…so stats could be even more inflated. However, I think Hillgrove’s defense is pretty stout, and I am quite confident that Drake will do well behind the O-line and wear down South Cobb’s D. And Engram, their 6′3″ 205 WR should fare well regardless of who is throwing the ball. And for the record,after having success in the postseason last year, I think Coach Ironside knows better than to take anyone lightly or look beyond this weeks game.

battleaxe kid

September 15th, 2011
4:19 pm

Lowndes….valdosta…..and colquitt will decide … the State Champ,,,,, what about that bk? Now that I’ll get the buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz a goin……

battleaxe kid

September 15th, 2011
5:02 pm

Predicitions:
Lowndes 21 pt spread over Burke, at the Palace
Valdosta 17 pt spread out on Pirates bluff
Coffee 21 pt spread for coach to keep his job
Colquitt 6 pt spread at WR ???
Tifton 17 pt spread over Worth

battleaxe kid

September 15th, 2011
5:07 pm

Oh yea watch out for Windsor Forest, Camden, there not going to lay down!!!!! Call it upset if you want to….. They are not from Ohio or Sav. no disrespect meant

qb coach

September 15th, 2011
5:23 pm

Scotty Hosch from North Gwinnett has put some pretty good numbers from highly ranked opponents from thier states.

THE TRUTH

September 15th, 2011
5:33 pm

Since you brought it up last is last year my friend and I know you got a heck of a coach in ironside, but you also lost a lot of D1 players last year at key positions so what worries me is not having played anybody good so far this season. I know you have some great players at Hilgrove but replacing Hunt Days is not possible no one on Hilgroves team is as good as he was defensively, John Silas is good but not that good. My point is I hope not playing any good teams in this 1st 3 games will not bite them in the butt. As I said before I think Hilgrove will pull it out but I also think the qb situation could effect the flow of the game and cause problems and therefore lead to a SC victory. We will see tomorrow night!!!

Nike 11

September 15th, 2011
6:04 pm

Printz might get to Heinicke’s mark from last year…though I doubt he gets to former Lassiter QB Hutson Mason’s mark in 2009 (who got his total in 13 games). It will all depend on how much he plays in the 2nd half of games…I think he was out the entire 4th quarter vs Sprayberry. He is a heck of a QB to be sure and has some very nice WRs. The game against Walton in 2 weeks will be for the region championship imo and should be a heck of a game to watch.

Camden74

September 15th, 2011
7:02 pm

b axe kid……None taken……….But of course you know, IT’S ON! Can you hear them coming? Camden County Wildcats, stalking Georgia 5A Football! They’re quiet, but everyone knows they’re there……… :-)

Hawksfan

September 15th, 2011
8:06 pm

That’s why they play the games! Guess we’ll see who has the talent and heart tomorrow night!

Hornet Fan

September 15th, 2011
8:09 pm

We will probably go 0-4 before we win although with Walton vs. Roswell you can throw out the records most seasons, [they beat us the year we shared the state title with PR]. Look on the bright side, first our school SAT scores were higher than any school that has beaten us in football so far this season and we finished 12th in SAT scores for Georgia schools. Second there are many college programs benefiting this season from all the talent that has passed through the Roswell program in the past 5 years. We should enjoy and relish this fact because with all the redistricting and erosion of the student base for RHS going back to the creation of Centennial and the moving of Milton into the RHS backyard, and the creation of Bethany Bend it was inevitable that the program will slip or have to move to a lower division to compete. Milton decided that since they can’t consistently beat RHS at football and it would be too difficult for the Milton program to recruit and house enough football players like the basketball team does that they would use the Board of Education to eliminate our player base and take it for themselves in hopes of creating a winning program. Just try Goggling how many football programs there are within 5 miles of RHS both private and public. In summary it is going to be a bad year for RHS outside the region and in the future but it will not be because we have poor coaching or because we have poor support for the program or because we don’t have a winning attitude. That tradition will continue as long as it can feasibly be sustained. This current edition of the Hornets has heart and will make a good showing once they hit the region portion of the schedule.

Todd Holcomb

September 15th, 2011
9:56 pm

Hey Hornet – That was Wheeler that beat Roswell in 2006. So that means you can’t throw the record book out the window after all. :) Walton did beat you in ‘05, and you bounced back to win the region title.

Play Those Small Schools

September 15th, 2011
10:45 pm

here we go again. region 1 teams playing smaller schools…pad those records boys. you’re getting more like camden county every day.

Camden74

September 15th, 2011
10:54 pm

PTSS……….Hope your team has a chance to play Camden in the playoffs!

Hornet Fan

September 15th, 2011
11:09 pm

You are right about it being Wheeler but it is still anybody’s game when Walton and Roswell play. Remember in 09 we were favored and it should have been and easy game for us. They cleaned our clock in the first half and we were lucky to get out of there with a win in the last few minutes of the game. If Salinas does not block the field goal and score our first TD we probably would have lost the game.

bksmith14

September 15th, 2011
11:37 pm

lowndes ….colquitt…..or valdosta wd be a safe bet to win it all, but to me you have to look at balance. lowndes obviously has th ebest rushing attack of the 3 teams which can control the clock.

colquitt has the best passing game of the 3

i will take valdostas defense right now over both

all 3 have solid defenses but you cant argue with what valdosta has done on defense

colquitt giving up 400 + yds to madison and then tcc although they won still does not impress me on defense.

stout defenses do not give up over 400 yds .

My upset alert this week goes to …………………Colquitt…..u guys on paper should win by 2 or 3 tds over warner robins…………….game is played on grass though not paper. warner robins can be a tough place to play. Colquitt wins 21-10 if they show up ready

Hoya Chuck (In Iraq)

September 16th, 2011
3:07 am

Mr. Holcomb,

Why on earth will the powers-that-be at Harrison, not replace the aweful coaching staff? Harrison was once a team to feared when Coach Cobleigh was running the show. The Hoya faithful, like myself, are perplexed at the decline of the program, and have voiced our opinions time after time in the blogging world! Does anyone at the decision making level not see what the problem is? The player talent is there. The coaching talent is not!! I truly feel for the kids that have the ability to win, and win big!! Am I pointing my finger in the wrong direction? I don’t think so! Anyway,

GO HOYAS!! Your fans still believe in you!!

Bigdaddyc

September 16th, 2011
7:10 am

It’s hard to replace a coach like Cobleigh! The addition of allatoona must have had some effect on Harrison. Harrison has always been a good team with a lot of coachable talent, but in years past has depended on a few great athletes to make them really good. I’m not disagreeing with Hoyachuck, but I will question if there may have been an absence of those few great players?

Bigdaddyc

September 16th, 2011
7:19 am

When I say great players.. I am talking about NFL and D1 talent.. Just to name a few.. Jon Abbate, Darvin Adams, Paul Oliver, Robbie Godhigh,.. And many other D1 talents.. I think the years Oliver played they had 5 or 6 D1 players.. Do they have that kind of talent now?

justsayingwhatimsaying

September 16th, 2011
7:45 am

bak and bk,
Lowndes: South Gwinnett AAAAA (R 8) 45-13 0-3
Pebblebrook AAAAA(R 4) 45-14 0-3
MacEachern AAAAA(R 4) 13-20 3-0
Leon (FL) 6A 39-22 0-2
3-8

Valdosta:Brooks: AA 2-1 20-11 2-1
Hardaway: AAAA 0-3 37-7 0-3
Lincoln: 7A 10-7 1-1
3-5

Colquitt: Cook AA 31-0 2-1
Madison AAA(FL) 20-19 2-1
TCC AAAA 44-14 1-1
Westlake AAAAA (R2) 21-10 1-1-1
6-4-1
As you see Lowndes has played only AAAAA and a 6A school, while Valdosta and Colquitt are undefeated to this point, their schedule has not been the toughest of opponents. But Colquitt opponents have more wins. I would not crown any of the champions as of yet.

Easy E

September 16th, 2011
8:15 am

@ The Truth: Do remember that Hillgrove and SC have a common opponenet in Marietta. SC won by 5 or 6 while Hillgrove won by like 40….Just Sayin…

Topper

September 16th, 2011
8:51 am

battleaxe kid – Are you saying Windsor Forest is going to win this game?

CobbFan

September 16th, 2011
8:54 am

Hillgrove has been taking a beating on the blogs about their schedule, but remember that this is only their second year in 5A. Kind of tough to make a great schedule in a year, but I am actually glad that the schedule worked out this way. I don’t know if we would have been prepared when #11(QB) broke his wrist in the Pope scrimmage. Little Ironside as The Truth called him,(kind of like that nickname) gained a lot of confidence in those games. He took a lot of criticism for the South Cobb game last year! I think we will be ok but I am just curious to see how we react if we get up by two touchdowns and SC scores. Our kids have been shutting it down in the middle of the second quarter and they will not be able to do that tonight. Drake has been more of a decoy in the first 3 games. I hope that you are right Easy E, but that common opponent thing is hard to rely on. There are so many different factors in each game. Oh by the way, #11 is in complete control of the offense, you will see a much more up tempo style tonight if he is a go.

Bigdaddyc

September 16th, 2011
9:46 am

I havn’t seen Hillgrove take much of a beating over their schedule as much as I have seen folks just state the facts. Hillgrove hasn’t played a good team yet. Tonights test is against an ok team. I believe Hillgrove will win by at least 14, but it could be a good game. The common opponent… Means nothing in my opinion. Go Hawks and Go Indians!

OMacG

September 16th, 2011
10:23 am

Hoya Chuck- thanks for serving in Iraq, whatever the reason.

Bigdaddyc stated it well: 1.) Cobleigh was unique, almost impossible to replace. His ability to adjust on the fly and at halftime was unparalleled. 2.) The player talent is NOT there, at least as it once was. Harrison has had some amazing players come through, and each year surrounded them with a group of disciplined, hard-nosed no-names. Peering in from south of Dallas Highway, it appears there’s been a huge drop-off in both the amazing and the hard-nosed. Part of this is due to Allatoona opening, part because of the Cobleigh factor no longer being in play. Looking down the line to the future, there is some hope with the current freshman class…but very average junior program teams, at least by Hoya standards. More telling is the lack of numbers at the middle school and freshman level- no more than 32 listed on any of those rosters.

NGHS 09

September 16th, 2011
10:43 am

@ Nike 11…Printz is good, and Hutson Mason was more proflific….but Heinicke did it all against a lot harder competition. Hutson Mason remembers how good region 7AAAAA was/is when NG toppled the trojans 42-20. Recently the trojans and Printz have had to learn the hard way as well. Last year losing to NG in two games by a combined score of 90-21. Lassiter does not play anyone (after Brookwood) who remotely challenges as a post season threat other than maybe Walton this year, but then again i say maybe because Kell beat them. My point is that once Lassiter plays someone who contends every year, they fold and lose every time. Hutson set the record playing teams like Sprayberry, Campbell, Wheeler, Alpharetta, Milton, Centennial, Roswell, and North Forysth. I wouldn’t say South Gwinnett was that good really in 09′ either.

If Heinicke played that patty cake schedule, hell he might have thrown for almost 6,000 yds. He exploded to the top last year against teams like Brookwood, MLK, NG, Peachtree Ridge, Mill Creek, Norcross, Lowndes, and then Brookwood again. Threw for well over 300 yds in all of these games or right at 300 yds. The kid was a machine and i think he had a break out year because the competition level in Gwinnett is so high. He fed off that energy and responded in the best possible way.

I’m not saying Mason and Printz were/are not good, or that Mason was not one of the best high school qb’s we will ever see. I think Printz has the tools to be an outstanding college qb. He will win a lot of games in college. I just don’t like the comparison between Heinicke and Printz when clearly Printz has a better chance and more of an advantage to have the same type of year. I mean what i am saying has proven itself since 2008 starting with Mason. He got killed by NG and then in 09′ he got killed by Colquitt (two serious playoff contenders). Printz got pummeled by NG last year in 10′ twice. Playing the better teams as opposed to their weak region doesn’t work out so well. Idk i just don’t like that comparison. IMO

NGHS 09

September 16th, 2011
10:48 am

@ qb coach…Your right he has. Scott Hosch has thrown for right at 800 yds in 3 games and 6 TD’s while his go-to reciever Chad Scott has racked up atleast 105 yds recieving per game (and that’s not an average for 3 games.) Scotty could throw for some really big numbers if the offense can keep rolling.

Coach Smith 73

September 16th, 2011
11:46 am

Just to let all of you know, Little Ironside as you put it is SOLID! and there are 4 others on this team that can get the Job done. Its the system that wins not just the players, but it doesnt hurt to have alot and I mean alot of talent on this team. Coach “I” has a strong Youth and Middle school program with Coaches getting it done at every level. Between Coach “I”, and his Coaching Staff they will get the job done and put lots of points on the board. I see the Hawks as a power house for a long time.

But has anyone asked the question that with two school 1 mile apart, how are they both so talented!! POWDER SPRINGS is now a football factory! Not to mention Baseball Basketball and Soccer.

iTiSi

September 16th, 2011
12:43 pm

bksmith14 made the comment that Warner Robins is a tough place to play. He’s only partially correct nowdays. It’s only a tough place if playing NORTHSIDE/WR. They are the ones who very seldom lose a game there. WR has not been the same for several years(especially since Robert Davis left) and they have had some bad years more recently. CCHS should have no problem with them, even in WR.

Coach Smith 73

September 16th, 2011
1:11 pm

By the way the real test is McEachern! Will we have another incredible game like we did last year? OMG, never in my life have I seen a game like that!

Nike 11

September 16th, 2011
1:57 pm

NGHS ‘09; I agree Heinicke had a tougher schedule. One point is Printz and Lassiter as a whole last year were very young and inexperienced. And while schedule strength is a telling component, you also can’t pick and choose a loaded schedule…you have to deal with what the GHSA gives you outside of maybe, at most, 4 games. I also think from what little I saw of CH last year that he had a better supposrting cast than Mason did. Printz has a better supporting cast than Mason, which is why I think Lassiter could make deep runs this year and next in the playoffs. You can;t teach speed, and in 09 when MAson and Lassiter went to Colquitt they couldn’t adjust. ALso, their coach then didn’t really run the ball at all…the current staff still throws it around a ton but also seem to want to keep defenses on their toes with the threat of the run.

I also don’t think QBs as a whole in GA at the HS level get a fair shake by many at the D1 level. Heinicke as at Old D, correct? I think he had a skill set that should haev been on the D1 level. Mason, and next year PRintz both got to the D1 level, but it seems QBs are not seen as legit from GA becasue it has traditionally been a state of “line up and pound it” football.

I think all 3 have great skill sets and should be examples of what the QB position in the state can produce.

Nike 11

September 16th, 2011
9:32 pm

Well Printz is out of Lassiter game with an injury. Unknown what but if I had to guess shoulder/collar bone/possibly conncussion. He got drilled on a couple very high hits and sandwiched on a couple others. That puts in doubt his reaching 4k yards passing this year.

GwinnettDad

September 16th, 2011
10:23 pm

The Broncos squeaked by Archer 21-19 thanks to Archer going scoreless twice in the 2nd half after reaching the Bronco’s 1 yard line and coming away scoreless. Archer had the ball for 8 minutes in the 3rd quarter, and with a 1st and goal at the 1, failed to score. The 2-2 defending State Champion Broncos were out-everythinged, except at the scoreboard. They appear to be barely a shadow of who they were last year.

GwinnettDad

September 16th, 2011
10:28 pm

Warner Robins 16 Colquitt County 8. Anybody surprised?

Camden74

September 16th, 2011
10:31 pm

Did Colquitt just have a bad game or is Warner Robins defense that good? I’m very disappointed in how Colquitt played, definitely not like a top 10 5A team!

Jackson

September 16th, 2011
10:37 pm

Brookwood barely squeaked past Archer. The final score was 21-19 when it could have easily gone the other way. Archer fumbled the ball twice at the goalline and had two long gainers called back which could have resulted in TDs. A failed attempt on a 2 point conversion and fieldgoal could have spelled doomsday for the Broncos. Brookwood does not need to think they beat Archer. Archer beat themselves. Maybe Crews will take a look at his team and give the players on the sideline a shot at some of those positions where he has guys playing both sides of the ball. Oh yeah his stars are not that good anymore.

Camden74

September 16th, 2011
10:40 pm

Camden still battling turnovers! Two unforced turnovers tonight and two blocked extra points! It’s good they have seven more games to get it together……… :-)

GwinnetDaddy2

September 16th, 2011
10:43 pm

What is up with those Broncos? Tonight was a sorry game. Brookwood’s the powerhouse they think they are. Archer stuck with them. Archers QB made them look pretty bad. There were a few plays when broncos didn’t even know he had the ball. Brookwood can also thank Archer for all those mistakes that Brookwood didn’t cause. Its hard to believe a program with over 80 players that Crews only relies on 20 or so guys all the time. Seeya next week at Central. Betta have your act together or it will be another L for ya. I predict now there will be no playoffs for the Broncos this year.

Camden74

September 16th, 2011
10:47 pm

Wow! East Paulding spanked Kell 34-0! I’m shocked! I’ve watched Kell play twice this year and I think they have a pretty good team! Anyone know the details?

Jammerz

September 16th, 2011
10:52 pm

Colquitt defenatly did not play there best, alot of dropped passes, and there was the refs who were very involved for WR

GwinnettDad

September 16th, 2011
10:56 pm

@Jammerz, oh, ye ole “blame the refs” whining cry baby BS. Colquitt deserves a heck of alot more intelligence and class.