What will be the basketball legacy of Milton High’s 2011 team?

Legacy for Milton 2011?

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Now that Milton coach David Boyd has had some time to think about it, losing to Norcross in the state championship was not that bad.

In fact, Boyd thinks — all things considered — it was a very respectable season for Milton, which began the season ranked No. 1 in the nation by several polls.

“I’m not quite as exuberant this time of year as I was last year,” Boyd said.

“But when I look back at the amazing accomplishments of our team this season and the past three years, it’s just incredible.

“We beat this year’s Class AA champion [GAC] 73-35, we beat Norcross in the regular season, and we beat Winter Park not once but twice and they won Florida’s state championship. We beat Oak Hill, one of the top programs in the country. We beat Wheeler by double digits.

“To make it all the way to the championship game with all the pressure, leading the game with less than two minutes, I think it’s fair to say we had a remarkable run.”

Boyd says his will focus on the team’s three-year run, including three straight appearances in the Class AAAAA state championship game (winning once), when he meets with the squad on Tuesday.

And what about the Norcross loss on Friday? “Norcross had won 16 in a row, and we had won 19 in a row — something had to give,” Boyd said.

“I thought our defense was tremendous. What hurt us is that they killed on the boards with rebounds. We did not rebound well, and then we turned it over in the fourth quarter, which made it difficult for our defense … (continued below)

It was a mad scramble between Milton and Norcross for the Class AAAAA state championship (AJC photo)

It was a mad scramble between Milton and Norcross for the Class AAAAA state championship (AJC photo)

“We got hurt because we didn’t rebound, and there’s no excuse for that. We kept throwing the ball to one spot. We were hanging on to the ball, and trying to do something we were capable of rather than moving the ball around.”

The Milton coach gave props to Norcross. “They hit some incredible shots at the end to win that game. So you have to give them credit for making those plays.”

It was a shocking loss to many, but not to Boyd. “I’m not in a state of disbelief. We played well enough to win the majority of our games. We  didn’t finish this game well enough to win. It was a 2-point game with 7 seconds to play, so I’m not in a state of disbelief. I’m disappointed about the outcome but I’m excited about the future of our program. I think we’re going to be very good next year.”

Now it’s YOUR turn. What are your thoughts on the legacy of Milton’s 2011 team? Note: Inappropriate remarks will not be tolerated.

69 comments Add your comment

wheelerfan#2

March 15th, 2011
11:59 am

“We beat this year’s Class AA champion [GAC] 73-35, we beat Norcross in the regular season, and we beat Winter Park not once but twice and they won Florida’s state championship. We beat Oak Hill, one of the top programs in the country. We beat Wheeler by double digits.”

all that is irrelevant if you dont win the state title…although he forgot to mention getting spanked by miller grove by double digits

DIrty

March 15th, 2011
12:00 pm

wheelerfan#2

March 15th, 2011
12:04 pm

not first dirty, but second!

Swaggagenerals

March 15th, 2011
12:28 pm

norcross wins the title and ajc still talkin bout Milton!

FinleyDawg

March 15th, 2011
12:29 pm

When does recruiting season start up for Boyd? Who will be his new additions for next year’s team?

ken

March 15th, 2011
12:44 pm

I am a high school basketball coach in the middle georgia area. we made it to state but lost in the first round. we get the players that naturally come to our high school. we lost one of our best players thru an aau coach to a basketball program in atlanta. the student went to live with his aau coach to attend this school. since i got here 3 years ago, we have shown gradual improvement. but since we don’t attract (recruit?) players from other programs, it is not likely we will be able to make it to the mountain top of quad a basketball. even your h.s. sports page said the same thing about tift and valdosta not belonging to the cream of the crop of the basketball world around atlanta. I hope that the GHSA will come up with a way to balance the playing field…. what do you think?

Blah Blah

March 15th, 2011
12:47 pm

Whose teams will be ruined when he starts handpicking his team for next year?

Fly McFaddin

March 15th, 2011
12:51 pm

If the ad at Milton is really gone…..Boyd’s welcome up in N. Fulton may be wearing a little thin. Those parents won’t put up with their kids playing through their Soph year, and then getting cut as Juniors because of the Boyd AAU (no coaching ability required) Pipeline. Without a state championship to rationalize their actions, the complaints will grow

Norcross Mania

March 15th, 2011
12:55 pm

WE BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!WE BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!WE BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!WE BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!WE BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!WE BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!WE BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!WE BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!WE BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!WE BELIEVE THAT WE WILL WIN!

wheelerparent

March 15th, 2011
12:56 pm

Ken, I feel your pain (sort of). We at Wheeler take great pride in 5 state championships. However, it is a blow to balance and fairness that Wheeler, Norcross and Milton are able to “attract” (”bring in?” “recruit?”) the top players in the state and sometimes out of the state. I’m not sure how they do it, and I fear there are lot of dirty little secrets out there. I really don’t think it’s just the “thrill” of playing under a David Boyd. The big problem is that the problem doesn’t seem to have a viable solution, so I just keep telling myself that it’s just high school basketball.

Brent

March 15th, 2011
1:04 pm

You are right ken, but that formula doesn’t always lead to success. If I recall correctly, Marietta’s dream team of a few years ago that included the offspring of a couple of former NBA players didn’t even make it to the championship game.

JustMyOpinon

March 15th, 2011
1:05 pm

Milton lost to another school that cheats!! The real state champs lost in the semi-final.

black1

March 15th, 2011
1:05 pm

Well, sometimes its hard to coach so called superstars. First you forget you got to coach them. U depend on their talent so much. Then when you have a team that u coach night out, when u get in certain situations you can pull through anything. Please lets stop talking about Milton. So how the baseball and track season going for Milton.

AAAA-BB

March 15th, 2011
1:31 pm

Go wolverines

wheelerfan#2

March 15th, 2011
2:02 pm

wheelers 2006 team that lost to Beach in the semis was probably the best georgia team in a loooong time, but they didnt win state and are pretty much forgotten about…same with this years milton,. anything less than a state title for that milton team was failure

phil

March 15th, 2011
2:03 pm

Carvell- Why don’t you do an investigation on the alleged recruiting of high school athletes by hs coaches to play for them, not only in metro Atlanta but all of Georgia? It could clear things up. I know you have to maintain a relationship with these coaches, but if someone is doing something unethical or illegal it should be brought out.

BreakingNews

March 15th, 2011
2:10 pm

You guys act like Boyd and Milton are the only schools that supposedly “recruit” in the metro area – you gotta be kidding me

Roswell11

March 15th, 2011
2:22 pm

it will be more shocking if the coach stays around if he cant “get” anymore players after this year… and by “get” I mean buy.

Nearly a Pro

March 15th, 2011
2:36 pm

Don’t worry about Milton they will “go get” the players they need…..

JHoops

March 15th, 2011
2:39 pm

Milton is a very good team., no they did’t win state but in a seven game series they would win against Norcross.

Miller Grove hands down is the best team in the state with Columbia right behind them then Milton, Norcross, Wheeler and GAC .

Time to kill the classification in Georgia, numbers don’t matter in hoops.

And if Boyd is recruiting let him, thats what you have to do to win

Afan

March 15th, 2011
2:43 pm

Milton…amusing that the program for the GHSA finals had an article in it basically saying they were the greatest Georgia team of all time. Hilarious…ought to wait until they win something before making that statement. What is really sad is that the article didn’t even mention what was really the greatest Georgia team of all-time; Southwest Macon, 1979.

joe

March 15th, 2011
3:00 pm

How much is Boyd getting paid for steering his kids to various colleges? That’s the real question…

ReddJonn68

March 15th, 2011
3:13 pm

Sorry they have as about as much legacy as the Atlanta Falcons this season, the only thing that matters is the the champs at the end of the season.

DostaCat

March 15th, 2011
3:19 pm

I can tell you flat out that the kids Valdosta put on the floor against Norcross grew up in Valdosta and came up through the feeder program. EVERY single kid grew up in the city limits of Valdosta and these kids have no choice but to go to Valdosta High school. If they live in the county then they go to Lowndes. The Valdosta Wildcats are all 100% home grown athletes. How many schools in north Georgia can make that claim? Probably about 0%. We have to play with what grows up here – no recruiting. We played as well as we could with what we had.

phil

March 15th, 2011
3:24 pm

Hey DostaCat- What about your crosstown rivals? Can they say the same thing: All their kids grew up in Lowndes school district, not in the Valdosta school district.

TruthSayer

March 15th, 2011
3:34 pm

Do you people honestly believe these coaches are recruiting? Prove it. Are they not bound by the same rules and regulations as all the other schools? Do the kids not have to live in that district to attend that school? Have you spoken to a board member, principal, or coach about your perceived recruting? Tell it like it is people. You are just sore losers.

Tired of ATL embarrassing all of GA

March 15th, 2011
3:55 pm

Everybody thinks South/middle Georgia hoops can’t compare with ATL area hoops, but the truth is South/middle Georgia Hoops just can’t compare with the “all-atlanta area AAU recruited high school teams”. Check the history!!! Middle and south ga won all the time in hoops up until the this recruiting era. Tift County, Valdosta, Savannah, and Beach high school have all gone to the final four or semis in recent history for AAAAA (None of which are really AAAAA in enrollment). These schools lost to similiar teams Wheeler, Norcross, and Milton. Other cities in GA like Augusta, Albany, Macon, and Columbus have similiar complaints with the smaller public and private classification schools doing the same thing up in ATL……

VALDOSTA is the true AAAAA champs in my opinion.

So Sick of the AJC

March 15th, 2011
4:21 pm

Dear Mr. Carvell,

I just don’t understand why all of the talk about Milton still. Your team lost so get over it. You didn’t get the response you wanted the first time about a Milton Legacy so you decided to try again. Give it a rest with Milton. It is clearly obvious that you have favorite teams and favorite players because those teams and players are the only thing you wish to discuss. Let me provide a little assistance on the legacy of another school…..Norcross the 5A State Champions:

Norcross Boys’ Basketball Major Accomplishments
*won 4 of the last 6 state championships
*won 5 of last 7 region championships
*Elite 8 in State or better in last 7 years
*2nd or better in Region last 10 years
*Only lost 34 of the last 304 games or won 89%
*won every home game since mid 2002 or 100 games
*29 players have earned college scholarships
*6 players are professional players

Let’s talk about that legacy! And for all you folks that want to bring up the recruiting again, give it a rest! These high schools don’t recruit nearly as much as you think. Parents utilize their savvy and resources to move and provide the best opportunities for their children. Stop whinning!

sweetness

March 15th, 2011
4:31 pm

SOUTHWEST MACON 1979 BEST HIGHSCHOOL BASKETBALL TEAM I EVER SEEN IN GA, WITH TWO MCDONALD ALL AMERICAN, TERRY FAIR/JEFF MALONE.
PERIOD

SouthwestMacon Grad

March 15th, 2011
4:52 pm

Sweetness. I agree with you about the 1979 Southwest Macon basketball team but I have to correct you. Jeff Malone was not a McDonald’s All American. He was a better player but Fair was a bigger player (6′9″). Thats what got him on the team.

DostaCat

March 15th, 2011
5:05 pm

Phil I don’t know about the kids at Lowndes. I don’t know those kids as well as I know the kids from Valdosta. I would bet that the majority of them grew up in Lowndes county though. Lowndes is not too good in basketball. They are lacking coaching – not athletes. I would still venture to say that most of Lowndes’ kids on their basketball team grew up in Lowndes county and came thru their feeder system.

NF Parent

March 15th, 2011
5:24 pm

Interesting now kids transfer in for whatever sport in the 9th-10th grade. Seems they always have a connection to a travel team, summer camp or aau situation that got them excited about moving to the new school. Pick a sport and pick a school. If they have been winning state championships they probably have someone that moved into the area because of the “academics.” Parents are trying to get the best opportunity for their kid. Hate these 1500-3000 student schools. One first clarinet, one lead in the senior play, one first baseman, one point guard, one quarterback….lack of opportunities for our kids.

Dale Willard

March 15th, 2011
5:59 pm

The legacy will be that they had the most arrogant coach in the history of GA HS basketball. The legacy sure wont be championship rings because they only won one time and that was due to the help of the phantom foul in the quarterfinals. I dont care how many championship games they played in. When you you boast about having 6 or more D1 players you should win the title – and they didnt. Boyd wants to talk about all of these accomplishments and who they beat during the season. THAT DOESNT MEAN A DARN THING. Before the season Boyd would have said he doesnt care what happens in the season as long as they win the ring. Now hes trying to come up with all these great things they did because he couldnt coach well enough to protect a 17 point lead in the 3rd quarter. To me the real David Boyd is what he did with his first team at Milton and what he did with his first couple of teams at Riverdale…NOTHING.

PS – If anybody knows a bigger egomaniac I would like to hear who it is.

randy perry

March 15th, 2011
6:16 pm

GHSA – know that the school or recruit and they don’t care I remember when the south side of the city had pretty good teams now the good players are recruit to the north side . I don’t believe you can have 6′8,6′8,6′9,and 6′10 on the same teams every year, tell that to somebody who don’t know basketball.

ken

March 15th, 2011
6:33 pm

It was great to see the Washington Co. Girls winn AAA with a great coach Sug Parker and old time community support. The Wilkinson Co. Boys won A with a great basketball coach Pete Geter and old time community support. So, basketball is still great in Georgia! …. just not always fair ….

Norcross student

March 15th, 2011
6:42 pm

Simple summary of high school basketball. North Georgia is better than south Georgia because people recruit in north Georgia. Nobody wants to live in south Georgia.

FACT

March 15th, 2011
7:23 pm

Boyd would be forced out by now if Milton had any good looking teachers or staff.

DostaCat

March 15th, 2011
9:18 pm

Norcross student – to each his own. I personally hope I NEVER have to live in metro Atlanta. I actually love living in south Georgia – and yes I did live in metro Atlanta during th early 1990’s. The simple summary is that Norcross has about one hundred times the population that the city of Valdosta has to choose from. Again all of our kids are home grown and we have to play with who actually grows up here. Can you make the same comment? I doubt it – we just played the best we could with what we have.

Norcross student

March 15th, 2011
9:33 pm

dostacat- you cant tell me right now that valdosta wouldnt take chris bolden, alonzo nelson-ododa, or josiah moore if any of them moved down there. you would! but why dont you have the opportunity? because nobody wants to live down south. youre jealous that quality basketball players are not attracted to the south. in fact, chris bolden moved FROM the south to have a better high school career. the fact that you love living in south georgia is something called a personal opinion. and norcross also played the best we could with what we have, we just ended up with a state championship for boys and girls. Can you make the same comment? i doubt it.

DostaCat

March 15th, 2011
11:19 pm

Norcross student you darn right we would take those kids – but you are missing the point. The point is that we do not have the population to draw from that you guys have. Again you are proving my point – we played with the kids that grew up in Valdosta and came through our system. Can you tell me that you won a state championship in boys or girls that actually grew up in Norcross, Ga? Matter of fact one of your kids played for Tift while in middle school, but an AAU coach convinced him and his family to move north and Norcross is actually his 3rd high school since his ninth grade year. The point is that it is open enrollment in metro ATL and there are way more athletes to choose from. I am jelous that you guys have such great athletes, but I am also very PROUD of our home grown kids. Like I said we played the best we could with the kids we had that actually grew up here in Valdosta. Again congrats to your team. I am not crying sour grapes specifically to Norcross. I am merely pointing out what a great advantage you guys up in ATL have over south Georgia schools. You guys had an outstanding team. Do you think that Norcross could have won a state title with kids that actually started in the Norcross school system in first grade and continued all the way to high school? That is the hand we are dealt and we are having to play it. Whether we like it or not until the GHSA evens the playing field.

Got Milton dad's back

March 15th, 2011
11:21 pm

Milton is 5-2 over the past three years over Norcross, Columbia, and Miller Grove.

Norcross student

March 15th, 2011
11:34 pm

dostacat- alright cool

Got Milton dad’s back – what is the record in overall championship games (where it really matters) between norcross and milton? 1 for norcross and 0 for milton. none of that past three years bull crap matters or counts toward the value of the ring on the players fingers at the end of the season. and dont get started on how badly norcross got straight up cheated out of the tournament last year.

Home cookin

March 16th, 2011
10:05 am

A very good team. They won a lot but lost the state championship. I don’t think you could make a case for best ever, but definitely a good team.

Slinger

March 16th, 2011
6:09 pm

State Champ in 2010, Runner-Up in 2011, Dumb Question.

Michael

March 16th, 2011
9:20 pm

Carvell, I am convinced more than ever you know squat about basketball. Milton had a major hole and that is the fact that they had no low post. No low post means no rebounds and that is what happened in the championship game. As I said if the game was in the fifties Norcross could win. In a half court game it is all about defense and rebounding. McMillan controlled the tempo and that is why Milton lost. How about celebrating Norcross and the fact that they won. Great teams win and win big when it counts. Milton lost bottom line.

westlakeclassof10

March 17th, 2011
12:47 am

they would have lost last year if dude from westlake never got hurt

westlakeclassof10

March 17th, 2011
12:54 am

@DostaCat they building schools left to right in Atlanta or the metro area . What they do is a new school and get some sorry coach to coach them believe it or not all the good school that get talent moved to there area or not good because of that reason there good because of the great coaching most of that talent would be a waste if they go to one of those sorry schools..

westlakeclassof10

March 17th, 2011
12:58 am

@DostaCat I know this is basketball but that home grown stuff works better with football thats why yall are way better then use in that

westlakeclassof10

March 17th, 2011
1:00 am

oo yeah last years westlake team that went to state was home grown they played with each other since pre K lmao That was a very good team

Get ur facts straight

March 17th, 2011
9:30 am

dostacat get ur facts straight, norcross is chris bolden’s 2nd high school in 3 years. he went to brookwood his 9th grade year, but just like down in the south, brookwood uses the good ol boy system and with the young man not being from brookwood, he was pushed to the side by the coach even though he was the leading scorer and best player they had, therefore he left brookwood. nobody to blame but the coaches. and i personally know this family and an aau coach was not the reason they left the south. ignorance and a bunch of rednecks in the south is why this family moved. but you don’t want to open that can of worms.