Down to the wire: Final week to sort out seeds for region playoffs

Region tournaments are a great thing, but they tend to make some of these late regular-season games less meaningful.

Take Region 7-AAAAA. Some huge games are being played, both boys and girls games, in this region this week. Norcross’ boys are surging and could wind up winning the region’s No. 1 seed despite a terrible start. North Gwinnett’s girls play No. 1 Norcross in a rematch of a game that North Gwinnett won last month on Friday.

But the problem is that those seeds are just for the region tournament. It’s the tourney that decides the region champ.

Here’s a list of games matching Top 10 teams in metro ATL this week. When I get a chance, I’ll add the rest of the state, but this was compiled for the print edition of the AJC, so metro was the focus.

These games are big, but are they that big?

Below all this is the rankings. We’ve got W-L records this week, although this ain’t football, where every score is documented in a timely and accurate way. So if there are errors, let us know.

BOYS
No. 6 Buford at No. 2 GAC (AA)
GIRLS
No. 7 North Cobb at No. 5 Campbell (AAAAA)
No. 8 McEachern at No. 10 Hillgrove (AAAAA)
No. 4 Redan at No. 8 SW DeKalb (AAAA)
No. 3 Buford at No. 6 GAC (AA)
No. 4 St. Francis at No. 1 Wesleyan (A)
Friday
BOYS
No. 2 Peachtree Ridge at No. 4 Collins Hill (AAAAA)
No. 8 North Gwinnett at No. 5 Norcross (AAAAA)
No. 3 Whitefield Academy at No. 9 Paideia (A)
GIRLS
No. 4 North Gwinnett at No. 1 Norcross (AAAAA)
Saturday
BOYS
No. 3 Whitefield Academy at No. 6 Pace (A)

BOYS

Class AAAAA
1. Milton (21-2)
2. Peachtree Ridge (18-4)
3. Wheeler (17-6)
4. Collins Hill (18-4)
5. Norcross (14-9)
6. Walton (15-6)
7. South Gwinnett (17-6)
8. North Gwinnett (16-6)
9. Harrison (17-6)
10. McEachern (15-6)

Class AAAA
1. Miller Grove (22-1)
2. Sequoyah (24-0)
3. Fayette County (22-2)
4. Bainbridge (21-2)
5. Rockdale County (17-5)
6. Brunswick (21-2)
7. Tucker (18-4)
8. Lovejoy (21-3)
9. Jonesboro (20-3)
10. Southwest DeKalb (14-5)

Class AAA
1. Columbia (19-3)
2. Troup (17-3)
3 West Hall (20-4)
4. Monroe (21-3)
5. Carrollton (15-5)
6. Henry County (18-4)
7. Gainesville (15-7)
8. Murray County (19-2)
9. Washington County (19-3)
10. Butler (17-7)

Class AA
1. South Atlanta (21-1)
2. Greater Atlanta Christian (18-5)
3. Laney (23-0)
4. Thomasville (20-3)
5. East Hall (18-5)
6. Buford (16-6)
7. Rockmart (21-1)
8. Dade County (21-3)
9. Northeast-Macon (18-2)
10. Vidalia (22-2)

Class A
1. Wilkinson County (22-0)
2. Greenville (19-3)
3. Whitefield Academy (20-3)
4. Wilcox County (17-2)
5. Wesleyan (19-3)
6. Pace Academy (19-2)
7. Terrell County (17-3)
8. North Cobb Christian (20-2)
9. Paideia (17-4)
10. Lanier County (18-4)

GIRLS

Class AAAAA
1. Norcross (20-2)
2. Brookwood (22-0)
3. Bradwell Institute (23-0)
4. North Gwinnett (17-5)
5. Campbell (18-5)
6. Stephenson (18-4)
7. North Cobb (20-3)
8. McEachern (17-5)
9. Alpharetta (19-3)
10. Hillgrove (16-3)

Class AAAA
1. Chamblee (21-0)
2. Fayette County (19-5)
3. Douglas County (23-0)
4. Redan (17-2)
5. Forest Park (18-5)
6. Chattahoochee (21-2)
7. Alcovy (22-2)
8. Southwest DeKalb (16-6)
9. McIntosh (21-3)
10. Statesboro (20-3)

Class AAA
1. Washington County (22-0)
2. Columbia (17-5)
3. Dalton (22-0)
4. Grovetown (21-1)
5. Westover (20-3)
6. LaGrange (17-1)
7. Walnut Grove (22-1)
8. Sandy Creek (17-3)
9. Chestatee (19-4)
10. Americus-Sumter (17-4)

Class AA
1. Kendrick (23-0)
2. Vidalia (24-0)
3. Buford (19-2)
4. Laney (22-1)
5. Thomasville (19-2)
6. Greater Atlanta Christian (17-6)
7. Fannin County (20-1)
8. Rabun County (22-1)
9. Northeast-Macon (20-3)
10. Screven County (19-3)

Class A
1. Wesleyan (21-2)
2. Taylor County (21-1)
3. Bryan County (21-2)
4. St. Francis (19-1)
5. SW Atlanta Christian (18-4)
6. Darlington (19-4)
7. Towns County (22-1)
8. Pace Academy (17-4)
9. Calvary Day (19-4)
10. Turner County (18-5)

68 comments Add your comment

Devil Lover

February 7th, 2011
12:31 pm

never count us out

David

February 7th, 2011
2:43 pm

Jeremy Adams is doing a great job at Sequoyah.

victoria wins

February 7th, 2011
2:44 pm

Its a shame that some of these teams are being rewarded by being placed in this top 10 when its clear they haven’t played anyone who would challenge an undefeated season.. Teams like Dalton and Washington Co.. haven’t played anyone ranked in any class all season!! ! Kendrick and Vidalia ranked ahead of Buford??? wow thats crazy! The Bufords, Columbia’s and Norcross and Wesleyan girls teams should be #1 just because to be the best you should play the best.. and those teams play the best competition year in and year out.. I would take 18-5 over 20-0 anyday if you are being challenged..

WACO Hawk fan

February 7th, 2011
4:57 pm

Let’s go WACO! #enuffsaid

tech.grad

February 7th, 2011
8:29 pm

victoria wins–in the end buford,columgia,norcross,wesleyan girls all will there.

Agreed

February 8th, 2011
12:18 am

In TOTAL agreement with Victoria wins. At least SOMEONE knows basketball!!!

DST3

February 8th, 2011
10:14 am

I TOTALLY agree with victoria wins. IN ORDER TO BE THE BEST YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE BEST! and this includes competitive teams outside of Georgia.

bkb fan

February 8th, 2011
4:04 pm

Victoria…not disagreeing with you, but the coaches poll has Kendrick and Washington County ranked No. 1 too. So these AJC rankings aren’t from out in left field.

Steve

February 8th, 2011
9:14 pm

Rankings don’t mean squat in any sport except the final BCS poll in college football. That said, AAA No. 3 Dalton girls did beat No. 9 Chestatee 42-23 this season.

rudbuck

February 8th, 2011
11:51 pm

Hiya Todd,

I think you skipped one!

Your other article in today’s online AJC says there are 10 teams left undefeated, as it goes down to the wire. Actually, I counted 11 teams that are still undefeated: Boys-Sequoyah, Laney, Wilkinson County, and Girls-Brookwood, Bradwell, Chamblee, Douglass County, Washington County, Dalton, Kendrick and Vidalia..

rudbuck

February 9th, 2011
12:34 am

I Agree with Victoria. A good example is Sequoyah, Their fans love Sequoyah, but if you look at the schedule they play it’s pretty weak. Fourteen of the wins have come against teams under .500. None of the 24 wins are teams that are ranked, and they play no national games or even in state holiday tourney’s.

eastside finest

February 9th, 2011
6:16 am

I agree with Victoria wins.Looking at the state playoffs in aaa girls last year you really saw who left there county to play some competitive games.After next weekend some of those teams this year will be EXPOSED!

MtnMama

February 9th, 2011
8:11 am

I find it funny that people complain about the scheduling saying “they haven’t played anybody”. It’s not like you can CHANGE THE SCHEDULE and decide to play someone else just because your scheduled opponents aren’t up to the caliber of your team. That’s what the playoffs are for; DUH!

victoria wins

February 9th, 2011
9:00 am

The coaches poll ranks teams on win loss records.. the AJC rankings are based on some other facters, such as the level of competition etc, you should want to know what kind of team you have before post season. If you play in a weak region you can go undefeated. Buford would never lose a game if they ONLY played their region schedule, and some other teams as well would never lose if they only played the games in there region.Coaches can schedule some games that would test the talent of their teams( x-mas tournaments, thanksgiving tournaments etc) there are opportunities to play out side your region.Columbia has 5 losses and in the coaches poll dropped to like #5 or something, but look who they loss too? buford(2xga.state champs) hoover(ala. statechamps)lakemary(va.statechamps) etc.Those are quality losses.At the end of the day its all about the preperation for state championship ball not finishing the year undefeated.I’m actually more impressed with who they loss too. Thats what good teams do. Steel sharpens steel! not wood.

Yuppie

February 9th, 2011
9:09 am

I think its a shame how Weslyan Girls team want move up a class since they feel they always have the better record. Their coach wants to stay in class A to continue to win championship. I feel she is afraid of the BIG DOGS its not teaching your girls real competition. Shame! Change Your Class Wesylan Girl basketball let see what you do against real competition.

SportsFan31313

February 9th, 2011
9:50 am

Congratulations Region 3-AAAAA Bradwell Insttute Lady Tigers on an undefated season. You are number 1 in my opinion…..

SportsFan31313

February 9th, 2011
9:51 am

Bradwell Institute Lady Tgers….. 25-0 :-)

johnny too good

February 9th, 2011
11:23 am

I agree with sportsfan…… bradwell’s girls have a good squad and still undeafeated…….
and how can Jenkins’ boys not be ranked at all in AAAAA? they’re 20-4 and undefeated in the region

http://www.youtube.com/thatsjohnanderson

victoriawins

February 9th, 2011
12:40 pm

You can be undefeated and untested as well. Becoming region champs is great if thats your final goal. but if Bradwells had to play Cambell or Norcross or even Stephenson, Brookwood etc, in the 1st or second rounds of the playoffs away.. would they be ready? Or cought of guard by the magnitude of the moment. Undefeated and Untested does not equal state championship success.thats all I’m saying. Play someone you might have to beat to get to the elite 8 or final 4. Enjoy the reginal success that might be as far as you go! Remember the big girls are waiting for you, and they have played in the big game before.

SportsFan31313

February 9th, 2011
1:22 pm

Johnny Too Good,

Yes, a lot of times teams outsie the Metro Atlanta Area do not get recognized. However; the Savannah Area Teams do have good basketball programs. In addition to the undefeatd regular season Bradwell Institute Lady Tigers have accomplished. In the Coaches polls they should be at the very least number two however; due their season, I would vote them to be number one. Look at their win streak and overall record fo the past two years. I would say they should be ranked number one in Class AAAAA.

SportsFan31313

February 9th, 2011
1:28 pm

victoriawins,

Bradwell Institute Lady Tigers is not new to playing Metro Atlanta Teams. They have been n the post season playoff for at least the past three years. They lost twice, two years in a row to Redan. One in the fnal four and one in the elite eight. Redan was State Champions two years ago. Redan lost to Norcross last year if i am not mistaken. But to answer your question, I would say yes. Bradwell institute counld definitely contend and beat the scholls you have mentioned. They are not 25-0 for fun and play. This is a great basketball team.

SportsFan31313

February 9th, 2011
1:29 pm

victoriawins,

Bradwell Institute Lady Tigers are Region 3-AAAAA Champions for two years in a row.

Johnny Too Good

February 9th, 2011
1:37 pm

Schools not in the metro area get little respect, there’s hardly ever much representation from Augusta, Macon, Albany, Columbus, or Savannah……….. regardless of records………….

and to say that they play soft schedules and are untested is foolish, boys and girls teams from Savannah go to the later rounds year after year…….. Groves boys and Beach girls from last year for example; both Beach and Savannah High’s boys teams have plenty experience in the elite eights and final fours

http://www.youtube.com/thatsjohnanderson

SportsFan31313

February 9th, 2011
3:24 pm

Johnny Too Good, Victoria Wins,

The Bradwell Institute Lady Tigers for three years in a row were, 2008-2009 25-5 13-1 in the Region 2009-2010 29-2 14-0 in the Region and 2010-2011 25-0 16-0 in the Region. You do the math. Over the these three years. The Bradwell Institute Lady Tigers are 79- 5 overall, and 43-1 in Region 3-AAAAA.. That speaks volumes.

victoriawins

February 9th, 2011
3:57 pm

Always a bride’s made never a Bride! Close is only good in horse shoes! Johnny2good those teams don’t deserve to get a lot of attention! when do you get props for getting beat by Redan 2 years in a row? get props when you beat Redan 2 years in a row! The metro teams have the advantage of being closer to teams with good records, and deserve what they get because they are consistenly playing tough competition. Winning your region donesn’t mean anything,(no rings for region)! maybe if you played some better comp you would get props for winning state, not just going to the elite8 and losing to the teams that play top competition, and complaining about those teams winning state.

victoriawins

February 9th, 2011
4:23 pm

How many state championships have you won in all those undefeated region years? 79-5 43-1 in region and not one AAAAA state champioship. Not even a final 4 appearence. Now that speaks volume to me. lets hope you get to the gwinett center this year or it will be the same song, same excuses!

eastside finest

February 9th, 2011
5:22 pm

sportsfan:wow that is impressive, but all you get from that is a certificate from your booster club saying good job!Not tring to be funny but redan has moved down to 4a maybe you will advance this year.

eastside finest

February 9th, 2011
5:35 pm

yuppie,
You are right weslyan move up!They take girls and boys from all over ga. and run down to the lowest class you can play at.Take notes from marist if your going to be a higher learning school take your athletics to the next level too.

BRW

February 9th, 2011
7:19 pm

Victoria wns: Buford would win very little in any sport if they used only the players from their city. Most of the smaller shools in smaller counties cannot afford to play out of state on a whim, so they do the best they can with the players that actually live there. So, in my opinion, 20-0 or 10-10 with local players is much better than any record with recruited players. The rankings also don’t mean that much when the playing field is not fair. Good luck with your whining and tainted championships.

rudbuck

February 9th, 2011
8:52 pm

@ Yuppie and Eastside finest: The state does reclassifications every 2 years and re-align the regions, the school has no say where they are sent. It goes by school population. Unfortunately Weslyan is a private school, and yes they pull from all over the state, but enrollment stays small because not just anybody can enroll in these private schools, which means an A classification.

@MTNMAMA: Yes once the season starts the schedule can’t be changed, but for any games outside the region it is up to the school coaches to fill in the schedule. So if there are holday tourney’s, out of state tourney’s and even in state out of region games, it is the school that schedule those. So if you schedule weak teams, it is the school scheduling those teams, of course avoiding real competition.

rudbuck

February 9th, 2011
9:00 pm

@Yuppie & eastside finest: I am not any kind of fan of Weslyan, but doing some homework I was surprised. You insist on Weslyan moving up, but looking at the schedule they played 10 games against higher classification and went 9-1! They beat ranked North Gwinnett, who also beat Norcross, they beat ranked Buford and lost to ranked Norcross by only 1 point. They also played 5 national teams, going 2-1 against S. Carolina teams that have a combined 3 losses, and beat Oak Ridge Military from PA, who by the way beat ranked GAC. So I would conclude that they have been tested, according to the facts.

robert

February 9th, 2011
9:17 pm

What about the GRADY VS wASHINGTON GAME? Grady won last time but this is for sub-Region champ. Why Grady not rank they are 16-7

TC "Big Chief"

February 9th, 2011
10:41 pm

Sequoyah wins again tonight 25-0. There are only 2 other teams in the state from all 4 classifications (A,2A,3A,4A,5A) that ran the table – Class A, region 7B Wilkinson Co. 21-0 & Class AA Laney 22-0. How about a little love from the AJC? I’m an Atlanta native of 50 years, played at Norcross but all I see is 5A coverage. Why not do the homework and report stories about a team in the Atlanta area who has done something special and rarely seen these days in High School basketball.

Devil Lover

February 10th, 2011
8:10 am

7-AAAAA has two big games Friday night. 11-2 Peachtree Ridge travel to 10-3 Collins Hill and 9-4 North Gwinnett travel to 10-3 Norcross.

If Collins Hill and Norcross win, 7-AAAAA will have a three way tie for first place and a coin toss will decide the 1-3 seeding for the region tournament.

victoriawins

February 10th, 2011
8:36 am

Listen,I’m not saying recruiting does not exist in all schools. But it takes more than some new recruits to win.Talent without dicipline does not equal championships. And lets be real.. Metro atlanta gets move ins all the time, from outside the state. If those people were moving to these far out parts of Ga, you wouldn’t be complaining, you would just accept them on your team and keep it moving, not complain because they didn’t grow in your system from middle school on up. Buford is a well coached team, don’t take away how hard they work to be a top team. All of the teams that win state championships do more to be in position to win state championships. Not region championships! I see the Bufords, Wesylans and Columbia’s working over time in the summer,xmas, etc. to be better than those teams who just do the minimum but expect the maximum results. Metro teams get the attention they deserve because they are winning when it counts the most. their teams are battle tested, last years AAA championship game was between 2 region foes who played each other 3x during the regular season. you gotta do a little bit more to be in position to win the big games(reginal success doesn’t mean much) YOUR SUPPOSE TO WIN! your not playing anyone!! Who wants to read about that in the AJC? If you want the attention the champs get, you gotta put the work in like champs. leave your country comfort zones, and come on in the big city and play some of the teams you would have to beat to be champs! If your not willing to do that than accept the results and don’t make excuses (refs cheated, that team recruits) all excuses for not putting more time in to be the best.

SportsFan31313

February 10th, 2011
3:30 pm

Vicoria’ wins,

Apparently you don’t know very much about the Bradwell Institute Lady Tigers. They did make it to final four before, and as of recent.

SportsFan31313

February 10th, 2011
3:31 pm

Victoria wins,

Your favorite will not beat Bradwell Institute and thats fior sure.

SportsFan31313

February 10th, 2011
3:35 pm

East Side,

I would agree with you the last two years as they did eliminate Bradwell Institute. But I must advise you this is a different team as you can see. Also redan has dropped don in Class but they are not near as good as they are in recent years. Redan are the Lucky ones that should be glad that they have dropped down and not having to play against Bradwell Institute this year.

SportsFan31313

February 10th, 2011
4:20 pm

Victoria Wins,

The Teams you mentioned in your earlier Blog speaking of Brookwood, who are undefeated and the other teams are duly noted. But I will assure you that if you think that these teams are so much better than Bradwell Institute, then you had better think again. I would love to see. them play against each other in the post season tournment. Just know that with the exception of Brookwood, these teams may not stand a chance of keeping the scores close to Bradwell.

bradwell and brookwood

February 10th, 2011
7:22 pm

Brookwoods record is another case on inflated scores against inferior talent. When they get pushed around or bodied up they buckle…Bradwell is lucky that region 2 and 4 play each other first in state instead of having to play each region to get to the elite 8. Bradwell will not make it to Atlanta this year because the region and teams they played this year sucked. Colquitt Co is weak saw them this summer get drilled by Etowah at uga by 25. That same etowah team is the same core of girls that ended Brookwood last year by 20 in round 1

johnny too good

February 10th, 2011
8:47 pm

well all this speculation and opinion slinging is all well and good, but the games are played for a reason and the tournament will start soon…………….

http://www.youtube.com/thatsjohnanderson

Dirk

February 10th, 2011
8:53 pm

@Johnny Too Good you mention Groves a Savannah school which lost to Newton last year which is a Metro Atlanta school, Groves is probably the best Savannah had last season and Newton while good aren’t the best in Metro Atlanta, so if your best can’t even beat one of our schools that is a top 10 probably but not #1 why should the schools down there get talked about, all of the Savannah schools request to play up a region so that they can play each other when all that really does is limit the type of talent you will see on a game to game bases because all of the coaches learn how the other coaches coach and after a while nothing new gets thrown at you.

johnny too good

February 10th, 2011
10:02 pm

well actually dirk……yeah i mentioned last year’s Groves team because it was close in memory, just one year removed…..Savannah schools have had adequate representation in the tournament for the last 10 years.

and for the record……….. most people in Savannah public schools dont wanna be in AAAAA because no school here has a population of more than 1200(we can thank the ghsa for that). And i know for a fact our coaches see “outside talent” on a regular via preseason tournaments, summer leagues, holiday tournaments, etc.
but you’ll hear no excuses from me, i’ll just sit on my hands and wait for the playoffs to start

http://www.youtube.com/thatsjohnanderson

Zone3canE

February 11th, 2011
1:53 am

johnny too good, Jenkins is a joke! South Atlanta had a DUNKFEST against them. Jenkins didn’t belong on the same court as South Atlanta. The highlights of the game are on YOUTUBE, they were totally outclassed and overmatched 89-55, could have been worse.

Tim

February 11th, 2011
1:01 pm

There needs to be a better system for ranking teams – part of the reward how you are ranked throughout the season (as well as how you finish) – some teams they are ranked in the top 10 and especially #1 and being rewarded when it’s not deserved. Playing teams in a higher classification and in tournaments should factor into the rankings (I agree with the comments about an undefeated team playing a sub-par schedule should not be necessarily ranked higher than a team with multiple losses against teams in higher classifications and those who are nationally ranked). It’s a disservice to the players and communities because undeserved rankings rob deserving teams of school and community pride during the season and in some cases for a lifetime (think about the players who forever talk about how they were #1 all season and then loss the championship game) – when most players will not continue playing after high school, we need a better ranking system to rightly reward recognize the best teams.

SportsFan31313

February 11th, 2011
2:03 pm

Bradwell and Brookwood,

Well I guess you will never know then. Too Bad Region 2 and Region will face against each other first. But at least one will advance, and if they keep winning, they will eventually have to face Bradwell Institute.

SportsFan31313

February 11th, 2011
2:22 pm

Looks like the Bradwell Institute Lady Tigers will face The Lady Vikings Of Lowndes in the first round.

Devil Lover

February 11th, 2011
10:28 pm

Nrocross boys by 10 over North Gwinnett…9 in a row.

SportsFan31313

February 12th, 2011
1:22 pm

evil Lover,

I think Norcross Mens lost last night to North Gwinette. Am I correct on that?

SportsFan31313

February 12th, 2011
1:31 pm

Devil Lover,

I was mistaken. It was the lady Basketball Teams. North Gwinette Ladies Beat Norcross Ladies….

Maybe Brookwood ,and Bradwell Institute will move up to Number 1 and or Number 2. Since Bradwell Institute have the Best overall record, (most wins) They should rightfully be at number 1, and Brookwood be at number 2. It would be great if these two undefeated teams could meet in the finals.