Class AAAAA goes topsy turvy: It’s 2006 all over again
‘’You had a bad day, you’re taking one down.
You sing a sad song just to turn it around.’’
Remember that song? Bad Day? It was No. 1 in 2006. That’s the year Roswell and Peachtree Ridge reached the Class AAAAA final, and nobody won. Georgia’s craziest season ended in a tie.
It’s 2006 all over again.
Had a bad day: Camden County, North Gwinnett, Clarke Central, Charlton County …
Let’s talk about AAAAA first. This is 2006. There are probably a dozen teams that could’ve won Class AAAAA this season. There’s no great team, but a bunch of good ones.
I witnessed one of these surprising outcomes – Grayson 23, North Gwinnett 19.
Conclusion: Grayson converted some critical third-down passes in the first half and scored 10 points while North Gwinnett proceeded to turn the ball over in those same key spots.
It was 10-0 at halftime, and it was over. Grayson is too well-coached, too good on defense, to let a team off the hook for making those mistakes.
Tangent: That #90 at Grayson is the best sophomore DL I’ve ever seen. Might be the best defensive player I’ve seen in person this year.
Now, is Grayson better than North Gwinnett? Hillgrove better than Camden? Colquitt better than MLK? Valdosta better than McEachern?
It doesn’t matter. They’re all good. The team that plays the best wins.
As we move down in classification, that cliché doesn’t apply so much. Some teams are so good in the lower classifications that they don’t have to play well every round.
Other random thoughts …
Are things setting up for a Lowndes-Valdosta final? Wouldn’t that be something. Valdosta would be home the next two rounds. Lowndes is Lowndes. I suspect something will monkey with this scenario and it won’t happen, but it’s something to keep an eye on.
Re Camden: Somebody asked me if Hillgrove’s victory was the biggest upset in playoff history. Now If you spin the facts – No. 1- ranked team, two-time champion, virtually unknown Cobb County school – then it’s up there. But with Camden, you really don’t know whether this is a good or great team until the playoffs. I suspect Camden was just good this year. Camden gave up 42 points twice this season. Lots of turnover from the 2009 team. I think Northside losing to Whitewater was a bigger upset.
AAAA: Interesting to me that three of the final eight were middling AAAAA teams last season – Kell, Chattahoochee, East Paulding. This class is deeper than it has been with 18 schools dropping down from AAAAA.
AAA: Of the big four, Peach and Sandy Creek continues to look awesome. Carrollton and Cairo, not so much. Give SPX & Eastside credit, but I think it’s now Big Four A: Peach, Sandy Creek. Big Four B: Carrollton, Cairo. Great job Cedar Grove & Monroe Area, but I don’t it’s still a four-team race, with two out front.
AA: Except for the Lovett-Brooks quarter, this class has held no real surprises. Buford-Cook should be a classic this week.
A: The Clinch-ELCA, Wilcox-Wesleyan quarterfinals will be ‘’epic,’’ to borrow my 11-year-old daughter’s favorite word.
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DIG
November 22nd, 2010
8:17 pm
@Camden74- While your beating your chest about something you have nothing to do with, why don’t you see how the academics match up against Gwinnett county schools.
PackerAlumni66
November 22nd, 2010
8:21 pm
JIMB i have a couple of questions. We know Mill Creek is good, heck you have to be to make it this far.#1 Who is this fullback we have been hearing about? #2Who and how many yards have your leading rusher,leading reciever and passer have? #3 Whats the avg weight of your OL and DL? We dont know much about them.
Viking Ale
November 22nd, 2010
8:30 pm
Valdosta has really improved.Lowndes has improved.Coach Gillipse should get coach of the year.Valdosta,Lowndes game will be one heck of a matchup if we meet again.Go Vikings
AAAAA football fan
November 22nd, 2010
8:41 pm
Hillgrove, great game plan. Lot’s of talent on your team. Remember thid may only be the beginning for your program. Good luck the rest of the way. #22 is the real deal. You left an impression on GA high school football. Most of all I don’t think Camden will forget you dancing on the paw at the 50. Something they will file away and the fans will talk about for a while.
goldenglove002
November 22nd, 2010
8:48 pm
grayram- Does Grayson’s QB spend all of his spare time reading the rule book? Yes, there is a rule against the band playing when the opposing offense is at the line of scrimmage, but the only reason a ref will go talk to the band is if the QB complains that he can’t hear when this occurs. Their QB did that when Kell played Grayson at the Corky Kell Kickoff.
Not that there is any problem with it (it is in the rules). I have never seen another QB say a thing, and I’m pretty sure he is just using that rule knowing there is the potential a ref will penalize the team rather than just give the band a warning. Knowledge is a great thing for a QB.
grayram
November 22nd, 2010
8:54 pm
goldenglove002: Grayson’s QB had a broken hand when the Rams played Kell in the dome. He only played a couple of snaps. Against North he was under center calling signals and the ref was well behind him when the ref blew the whistle and turned around to talk to the band. I guess its possible he said something to the ref before they huddled but if so hes was probably instructed to do it by a coach.
grayram
November 22nd, 2010
9:01 pm
goldenglove002: Are you from Kell? they have had a very impressive season. I think at least four of the teams they beat were undefeated before they faced Kell.
vikesalot
November 22nd, 2010
9:07 pm
DIG and JIMB-I too choose to leave metro Atlanta to raise my children in S GA-while everyone knows ATL has shopping, plays, sports teams, concerts/events, etc. I also know the myriad of developments where most don’t know their neighbors, spend upwards to an hour or more to go 5-7 miles in traffic, etc. I don’t take offense or would never take a condescending tone towards anyone living in ATL-so I chose Friday night football, festivals, school functions, shopping,etc here in Valdosta. I also chose to travel 1-3.5 hours and can be in T’hassee, J-ville, Orlando, ATL, PC Beach, Tampa area, Savannah- not to make one loop around I-285 most afternoons-Been there and don’t choose that-
Jammer
November 22nd, 2010
9:29 pm
vikesalot
I second your post, I too choose to leave the hustle and bustle of the ever growing suburbs. I have since had 2 kids Graduate from Colquitt County, and a 3rd still in the system. I like you made a choice of festivals, school functions, and of cource Friday night Football.
DIG
November 22nd, 2010
9:30 pm
@vikesalot – I hear ya. I know there are good place to live in south GA. I just grow tired of the chest thumping of some fans being overly fanatic about HS football. I love football, I’ve played and coached it for many years. But, football doesn’t begin and end in
HillgroveDad
November 22nd, 2010
9:33 pm
BKSMITH14 – It’s true Hillgrove gave up 20 points in there loss, however I can assure you there D is playing much better. The past few weeks, there D has played better than I’ve seen them play all year. And one thing about scores, you can’t always rely on scores to accurately show the pace of a game. Some teams like to run up points while other, and Coach Ironside falls into this category, prefer to put there 2nd and 3rd strings in once they have a decent lead to give them playing time. There were many games this year where Hillgroves second string was in by the 3rd quarter. I’m just saying scores can be misleading. I’m sure Brookwood is a quality team, they wouldn’t be in the place they are now if they weren’t, and I look forward to the game. It should be a great game, no matter who wins. For a first year 5a team and 5 year old school, anyone would have to admit what our kids have accomplished so far this year is impressive. They deserve the respect they have earned and I thank all of the post that have acknowledged that. It just shows there is class and sportsmanship on the site.
DIG
November 22nd, 2010
9:34 pm
UH-OH. begin and end in south GA. Actually, I think that the people in Buford would say it was invented there. LOL!
yo
November 22nd, 2010
9:41 pm
Eagle Homer Lowndes is right behind Grayson in amount of points given up by defense this year. Considering they have played the high powered offenses of South Gwinnet, Valdosta, Colquit, and McEachern that isn’t to bad.
yo
November 22nd, 2010
9:43 pm
Don’t worry about JIMB because he doesn’t have time to come down south to a game, he has to pet his dog.
titletown02
November 22nd, 2010
9:51 pm
GO VIKINGS GO!!!
Tyler Hunter looked great at QB this past friday night. Hmmm could there be some changes this Friday night?
Tiger4Life
November 22nd, 2010
9:57 pm
@The Cannon Rules
Just becase I know how much you love your stats. I found this on another blog. This should hold you until next week.
Region 5#2 – East Paulding Raiders (10-2-0)
Region 3#1 – Starr’s Mill Panthers (12-0-0)
East Paulding
Scoring Offense: 32.6 (4)
Scoring Defense: 10.6 (4)
Scoring Differential: +22.0 (4)
East Paulding vs. Playoff Teams: 4-1-0
East Paulding 13 Kell 20
East Paulding 26 Hiram 14
East Paulding 14 Pope 13
East Paulding 35 Rome 0 (First Round)
East Paulding 24 Clarke Central 10 (Second Round)
Starr’s Mill
Scoring Offense: 35.2 (3)
Scoring Defense: 10.2 (3)
Scoring Differential: +25.0 (3)
Starr’s Mill vs. Playoff Teams: 4-0-0
Starr’s Mill 21 Whitewater 14
Starr’s Mill 24 Griffin 7
Starr’s Mill 42 Hardaway 9 (First Round)
Starr’s Mill 42 Brunswick 34 (Second Round)
Series Record: East Paulding leads 1-0-0
2006 – East Paulding 35 Starr’s Mill 28 (Quarterfinal)
Dekalb
November 22nd, 2010
10:25 pm
Cedar grove upset Bruk County
Joshwash18
November 22nd, 2010
10:38 pm
I’m mad aint no one mention the team who has constantly been rated in the top ten for the past decade ,they have also been by far the most dominating team in Georgia for this football sesson . You are all forgetting about who I beleive is the number one team in Georgia ,the TUCKER TIGERS. They have dominated there opponents all season long. Don’t sleep on them. I smell a 2nd AAAA championship in the past 3 years for them. GO TIGERS!!
Patriot Power
November 22nd, 2010
10:44 pm
I am very proud of my Sandy Creek Patriots! We should take care of Monroe this Friday and then on to the big showdown with Peach County in the semis. It would be nice to win the coin toss, but I think our team actually plays better on the road. Either way, that should be a great game.
BLACKGOLD
November 22nd, 2010
10:46 pm
1AA,1AAAAA….do your thang , Calhoun ..Fitz will be ready , I really didnt expect us to be this far after having SO many juniors ,BUT they really buckled down and matured alot , especially the THOMASVILLE overtime game , I seen a whole different team that night until present. we gonna put on and Im sure the jackets going to be ready . my team is healthy , disclipined, hungry and playing every game like the last. next year I expect a damn good season! Jefferson I will have my prediction.
Lori
November 22nd, 2010
11:14 pm
GO GRAYSON RAMS! Beat Valdosta!
Jefferson
November 22nd, 2010
11:15 pm
BLACKGOLD – I’m hoping you pick the CANES, I’ll take the Jackets. You will have to be multi-dimentional to have a chance. The Jackets are balanced on offense, the halfback is ripping yards the qb has 4 receivers to pick from, with one getting big catches. I hear ya’ll are fast, what the story — got speed??
Andy
November 22nd, 2010
11:42 pm
I see still NO love for the Statesboro Blue Devils they are going to shock alot of people when they travel to Marietta and hand Kell there first loss. U heard it here first.
BKSMITH14
November 23rd, 2010
12:14 am
i was watching some youtube videos of lowndes and i came across some comments of people saying the refs in the camden and lowndes game from last year were paid off. i had heard tht there was a writeup in the paper about it and word actually slipped out from someone on the inside from camden. i have heard so much about this that i now beleive there must be something behind it bc honestly they were horrible. just a lot of talk and comments about it . lot of people have said it was fact and ref got in trouble with the ghsfa board
bigbeee07
November 23rd, 2010
1:14 am
Peach County is the the most disrespected team in the playoffs, imean you are ranked #1 in the state and having to flip a coin to decide whether are not we play at home are not. I think that crazy and i think that rule need to be changed because being #1 doesn’t mean anything for teams we should have came in #4 probably would be at home friday.Now to the game friday.. everyone is talking about these ATL schools like the region they play in are strong, but we know you play real football in middle ga.area name me a team in AAA from that area that has won a championship in football? you can’t and it won’t change friday and this game will be a statement game for the rest of the state ..PLEASE BELIEVE IT!!!!!! GO TROJANS! FIRED UP PC FIRED UP!
Bullnuke
November 23rd, 2010
1:34 am
@BKSMITH14… 12:14 AM post….YOU ARE A MORON Accept your losses with some class, will you?
No_Cigar
November 23rd, 2010
6:54 am
@ ANDY – the reason you see no love for Statesboro is that they BARELY held on to get a win against GRIFFIN. The Bears gave em all they could handle after traveling to you guys. Kell is a MONSTER team and you will have a rough time getting untracked against them. They would have also beat our beloved Griffin Bears, just sayin’!! Dont feel too bad after Statesboro gets BOUNCED this Friday….
The Cannon Rules!!!
November 23rd, 2010
7:11 am
@ Tiger4Life…
I just KNEW you would jump in when I posted the STARR’S MILLS info…We’ll have our fun next week!
STARR’S MILL is on a GREAT run regardless of their opponents…UNDEFEATED is still UNDEFEATED and playing at home is going to give them added incintive. EAST travels well and plays good on the road, also on paper these teams “APPEAR” to match up well.
GOOD LUCK with your game also as I would LOVE to see an EAST PAULDING / TUCKER match-up, HOWEVER I will admit I would rather have WARE COUNTY win so we could have another home playoff game in “THE BONEYARD”!!!
TICK…TICK…TICK…BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!
That Guy
November 23rd, 2010
8:02 am
Polls are for losers and there is no such thing as “an upset” in the state playoffs. Teams tend to get ranked based on past history and not necessarily on strengths and weaknesses of the other teams in their class. If you want to use a poll position to determine whether one team is supposedly better than another, then why even play the games. Lets just anoint the next State Champion as the one that just happens to be the chosen team to sit at the top.
Come on, man!
Syrupmaker
November 23rd, 2010
8:34 am
Let’s go Kay-row!
chemflu2
November 23rd, 2010
8:39 am
@bigbeee07…Tell them like it T – I – I S….Go Trojans!
ELCA fan
November 23rd, 2010
8:55 am
I have always been associated with the larger classifications 4 and 5A schools but this year I have been following single A. They don’t get a lot of attention on these blogs. I have watched ELCA play and they are very good. There is do doubt in my mind that they could compete with many teams in higher classifications. They lost the coin toss and have to travel down to #1 Clinch; it should be a good one.
The Cannon Rules!!!
November 23rd, 2010
8:57 am
@ That Guy…
GOOD POST!! At this point we have eliminated the “PRETENDERS” and really have no one left but the “CONTENDERS” who on any given night can probably beat each other.
BUT there have been a number of teams eliminated that I think many would have “bet the farm” were going to still be here. Polls and rankings can be VERY deceiving because like you said many times they rely on PAST history and do not really focus on the CURRENT team.
What we are seeing this year is the “growing up” and “Maturing” of several of the newer schools. They are proving they can and will contend year after year. Whatever happens the rest of these playoffs, one thing is for sure…IT WILL NOT BE BORING!!!
TICK…TICK…TICK…BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!
GO RAIDERS!!!
GwinnettDad
November 23rd, 2010
9:15 am
If hot air on this blog would win a championship, due to the efforts of a few folks here, Lowndes would win 1000 to minus 100, and that would be just after the first quarter.
I consider Hillgrove to be a favorite Friday, simply because I would have given Brookwood NO chance of beating Camden at Camden. Playing Camden at Camden was one heck of an accomplishment for Hillgrove, or for any other football program anywhere in any State. They have to be the real deal. A good team will be able to run on Brookwood, and pass defense has been questionable, at best, at times.
I live in Gwinnett and until little while ago, I couldn’t have named Mill Creek. I think I called it Millwood or something not all that long ago on this blog. Never been to the high school, and sitting here, I’m not sure where it is. However, they’ve put themselves on the map already, and it’s high time I find out where the school is located. Life can be so different here in Gwinnett, because regardless of football, hundreds of thousands of new people have moved here. Good luck to Mill Creek.
Grayson is well coached and can win anywhere against anybody. They beat Lowndes up here last year. But of course, that was last year, against another team. How anybody is supposed to “own” another team that doesn’t play more often than once in every 5 years, maybe? But, of course, there’s a big mouth here that claims that too.
Finally, there’s Collins Hill at Lowndes. Lowndes, of course, is the favorite, and stages as impressive of an opening as I’ve seen in high school football. Lowndes does have a great band. But the game is played on the field, and has nothing to do with the ego of silly bloggers that apparently need to act out here to prove they have a life. Good luck to Collins Hill. I wish them the best.
Eagle homer
November 23rd, 2010
9:18 am
BKSMITH-Thanks for the stat report last night. I remember a huge upset of Lowndes at Grayson a couple years ago. It seems like it was followed by a bit of a brawl afterwards. Friday night after the game was in hand for CH as the QB was running out the final 90 seconds one of the big Roswell linemen did something to the CH QB in the pile that had him jumping up screaming and pointing and nearly led to a scrum.
I hope that the game can be played with maturity and the kids can show some self control and dignity-especially whoever loses on Friday.
Scott
November 23rd, 2010
9:18 am
ELCA fan – Way too many are looking ahead for a potential championship matchup between Clinch Co. and Wilcox Co. in the dome. But, as they say, that’s why they play the game. I’ve been to a few 5A and 4A games in the south metro area in addition to a couple of ELCA home games and find the football to be just as entertaining regardless of the classification.
Trojan94
November 23rd, 2010
9:23 am
No way is carrollton going to lose in grisham stadium friday. Two great teams with two great defenses should be a classic. But the TROJANS are not going down friday night CARROLLTON 21 CAIRO 10.
yo
November 23rd, 2010
9:25 am
BKSMITH14 from another Lowndes fan……Ho Hum! It doesn’t matter if the refs were paid off (they weren’t) or if we had injured players (we did and probably so did Camden) or if we fumbled a punt (we did) or what ever other excuses or alibis you can come up with it will not change the facts. We should have won that game and we did not. So we lost. Period! That makes us the LOSERS and Camden the Winners! That makes us less than State Champs and Camden 2009 State Champs.
You could stand to learn a lot about life from yourself. Get over yourself and quit making excuses every time you come up short in something. Losers blame other people for their short comings and don’t accept responsibility for their own actions. Quit being a loser.
I know you say “I call it like I see it”. Well let me say you are coming across as seeing it through the eyes of a loser. May be time to look at “it” through the eyes of a winner for a change.
JIMB
November 23rd, 2010
9:35 am
Millcreek full back ranked 4th in the country 6′1″ 260 and 4.65 40 3.8gpa Tyler Cierski Maryland commitment may change. great blocker has 900yrs rushing. Brandon hayman reciever 6′3″ also super six point guard backetball dual D1 , qb Russ a junior cannon arm, extremely fast runner. offense line goes 250 to 275 short guy 6′2″ tallest 6′6” tight end 6′ 2′ 250. defensive nose tackle 6′4′ 275 sophomore may be the best 2012 prostest in the state LSU offering
GwinnettDad
November 23rd, 2010
9:39 am
@yo – I applaud your frankness. It will be hard enough for any group of kids to win a State Championship (my son won the AAAAA pole vault in 2008 through hard work). Nobody that blogs here should risk giving extra motivation to the opponents of their kids. If we do, we’re hurting, not helping, out team, and here to satisfy our own ego. Besides, it also makes the blogger a big bad bore.
Carlton
November 23rd, 2010
9:42 am
Rancher,tell that JIMB guy to “get a life” and enjoy a Friday night GA HS Football game in South GA. If I can drive down from Memphis to Valdosta to watch Lowndes play surely he can get down from AtL. Believe me it will be worth the drive!
DSGB
November 23rd, 2010
10:00 am
Trojan94, get all your shopping done Friday morning because Friday evening will not be good. Nothing like playing in a hostile enviroment and Enjoy your Thanksgiving and be Thankful for getting beat by a better team!!!
John in Jacksonville
November 23rd, 2010
10:04 am
Points taken, ThatGuy, but still, there are some good things about polls. I don’t have time to get thoroughly acquainted with several hundred high school programs, so the polls give me a quick way of evaluating or comparing them (like “Cliff Notes” or a “cheat sheet”.) They are one piece of data to help me size up the landscape, along with many others such as record, opponents, players (if I know such things), or opinions of others in a forum like this one.
Polls also reflect the degree of respect the program has earned, probably over a period of years, and that general level of respect is in some ways a more accurate measure of, if you will, the “current market value of the brand” than what the score of their last game was.
Plus polls engage people in discussion, like we all do in here every week, and that’s entertaining and healthy! Hang a dartboard on the wall, and guess what? A game of darts breaks out! That’s all a poll really is – a kind of dartboard.
Last thought – when you said “Polls are for losers,” I think you meant “Polls are misleading,” right? I know you didn’t mean to start a sports bar brawl by calling the rest of us “losers” (ha), just pointing out that we all have to work at following the guidelines to address our remarks to opinions, which are fair game, and not to the people who hold those opinions.
Speaking of opinions – Go Vikings! Go Wildcats! Go Packers! (or is that…. GEAUX Vikings?? Since when did sports get so French?)
JIMB
November 23rd, 2010
10:09 am
I have a life, but thanks 6 children, 10grand children, and I have to work friday, I promise you I am very upset not going. I am a football fan high school and college, I attend games every week. Play by play announcer and former college player. Carlton I wouldn”t have told anyone I lived in Memphis.
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
10:23 am
@AVikingFan, you got me chuckling with the “silver spoon” comment! I thought maybe you were channeling ENR.
I know a lot of people think Gwinnett is all about high end gated subdivisions but it is not. While there are pockets that fit the description and image of the soccer mom in her van/SUV, there are plenty of areas that wouldn’t know what that was about if it bit them. I see a lot of outstanding players coming from areas of much less affluence (!) that play side by side with the “rich” kids. One thing about Gwinnett I’m proud of is how on the field, none of that matters. IT is all about the football not who has what.
Talking about the life style differences, while I am a native Atlantan, I must admit to envying many of the things about south Georgia. I make the choice to stay here for a lot of reasons but recognize that the Big A doesn’t have everything. I think the southern emphasis on football and other kids/family activities is a good thing.
See y’all Friday!
A Fan
November 23rd, 2010
10:33 am
No way Lowndes is the favorite. Collins Hill will win no doubt. Everyone will see that Lowndes is all talk and can’t perform when it counts. It will be another domination by a Gwinnett team. Remember Grayson Lowndes fans? This time it will be in your precious Concrete Palace. The bigger they are, the harder they fall
BKSMITH14
November 23rd, 2010
10:35 am
@YO, listen man. i know lowndes lost the game. i am just stating that earlier this year i was hearing from fans that there was a ref in that camden game that got it trouble. People said there was a writeup about it and that camden fans admitted it and that the reason it got leaked out is bc someone from camden let it leak out,. I have heard this on and off all year. Its even on youtube. I myself did not say that i know for a fact that it happened. SO YO you need to put your mind in gear before you put your mouth in action. Lowndes lost 10-7. The refs in that game at times were horrible were horrible and did seem to make life difficult for lowndes. Was one paid ? I dont know but for there to be so much talk that keeps going on and about it , it just makes you wander. Thats all i am saying. I feel wea should have won game and we had better team and all but we didnt. Coach herrron made some gutsy calls in that game for camden. I will say that
Carlton
November 23rd, 2010
10:35 am
JIMB, Honestly, I have to apoligize, that “I have a life” thing is sort of an inside family joke. And actually, I don’t live in Memphis but I understand your gibe. I live in a suburb, Germantown. But I can tell you, Tenn does not have the level of HSFB that GA has, and you guys should be very proud of your players and teams. Good luck in the playoffs. If the right teams (Cook and Lowndes) get to the dome I will try to be there to support them.
BKSMITH14
November 23rd, 2010
10:37 am
@ A FAN. I will go by the grocery store this evening and pick up the ingredients to make CROW STEW!!!! Bc you my friend will be eating a large bowl of it after game friday. MORON
Fred
November 23rd, 2010
10:39 am
@goldenglove002, the issue with the North Gwinnett band was magnified by the stadium layout. The NG band sits/stands/plays from the end zone stands. These stands look to be about 20-30 feet max from the end of the end zone but I did not measure. At the time, Grayson was on about the 15-20 yard line on that end of the stadium. If you haven’t seen them, the NG band is very large and in fact it takes the entire end zone stand to hold them. They are big and they are loud! So basically you had a very large band about 30 yards away going for all they were worth on a high volume song as Grayson was attempting to run plays. It did not happen just once but kept happening all night. I know those of us in the stands had no clue what was going on until the ref went over to the band director. Youthful exuberance I’m sure but it was a little much.