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It’s Week Five of HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL. This week, AJC high schools beat writer Michael Carvell blogs live and takes your questions about high school football and related topics.

We are here to talk football, football and more football. Going to a game? Take the cellphone or PDA and let us know what’s going on at YOUR game. Got a score update, see a killer play? Keep your comments clean, respectful, limited to FOOTBALL TALK and POST THEM HERE. Personal insults won’t be tolerated and could get you banned from the board.

VIDEO: CLICK HERE to watch Week 5 football highlights.

WEEK 5 SCOREBOARD: CLICK HERE to see the Week 5 results.

Here are the Week Five games you can find stories and photos from this weekend on ajc.com…

Carver (Atl.) vs. Marist | Photos
Kell vs. Hiram | Photos
King’s Ridge vs. Pace Academy | Photos
South Gwinnett vs. Parkview | Photos
UPDATE: Douglass-Tucker game rescheduled for Saturday. All tickets will be free. CLICK FOR DETAILS.

Don’t forget to check out these high school football gamers…

Starr’s Mill vs. Whitewater
Buford vs. Lovett (WSB-TV’s high school game of the week)

In the metro Atlanta roundup, get the scoop on these games…

Washington (Atl.) – Riverwood
Jonesboro – Creekside
Tri-Cities – Mundy’s Mill
Banneker – Lovejoy
Westlake – Stephenson
Etowah – Walton
Marietta – Wheeler
Northview – Alpharetta
West Forsyth – Centennial
GAC – Blessed Trinity
Southwest DeKalb – Chamblee
St. Pius – North Atlanta
Duluth – Collins Hill
Central Gwinnett – Brookwood
North Gwinnett – Meadowcreek
Peachtree Ridge – Mountain View

WEEK 5 SCOREBOARD: CLICK HERE to see the Week 5 results.

Watch high school football on demand! See Georgia High School sports both live and On Demand on the Internet at GPB Sports..

Watch HSFB on WSB-TV: Friday’s game features Buford at Lovett and will be shown live on TV, with Zach Klein of Channel 2 WSB-TV providing play-by-play and Chip Towers of the AJC offering analysis. The game will air at 7:30 p.m. on Channel 2’s second digital channel, RTV, and replay at 1 a.m. on Channel 2. RTV can be found on Comcast Cable channel 248 and Charter channel 126. Outside of metro Atlanta, RTV can be found on Windstream channel 871; on ETC channel 190 and on Knology channel 168.

Week 5 topic: Who’s been the season’s biggest surprise so far? The biggest disappointment?

334 comments Add your comment

THE CANNON RULES!!!!

September 23rd, 2010
4:07 pm

FIRST TO POST…!!!

NORTH PAULDING is having a GREAT year and we hope the Wolfpack continues to play good ball BUT…………….this week they get their first visit to “THE BONEYARD” when they play our RAIDERS from EAST PAULDING!!!

This Friday you got North Paulding @ EAST PAULDING, KELL @ HIRAM, & OSBORNE @ POPE
(SPRAYBERRY has an open date) so come Saturday morning you can look for the 5N-AAAA Region standings to be as follows:

#1 / HIRAM — 5 / 0 & 2 / 0 in the Region (beating Kell)
#2 / KELL — 4 / 1 & 1 / 1 in the Region (losing to Hiram)
#3 / EAST PAULDING — 4 / 1 & 1 / in the Region (beating North Paulding)
#4 / NORTH PAULDING — 4 / 1 & 1 / 1 in the Region (losing to East Paulding)
#5 / POPE — 4 / 0 & 1 / 0 in the Region (beating Osborne)
#6 / SPRAYBERRY — 1 / 3 & 0 / 1 in the Region (idle this week)
#7 / OSBORNE — 1 / 4 & 0 / 2 in the Region (losing to Pope)

TICK…TICK…TICK…BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!

GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!

Papa Longhorn 4

September 23rd, 2010
4:35 pm

Cannon Rules, I hope your Kell prediction is as acurate as last week’s prediction. Unbelievable! After 4 straight weeks of beating undefeated and ranked opponents, we still have people betting against us! We still get no respect. Hopefully after this week we will have a few more believers. Hook ‘em Horns!

THE CANNON RULES!!!!

September 23rd, 2010
4:52 pm

Papa Longhorn 4…

Don’t get me wrong…last week was one of the BEST games I have been to involving EAST in years!! But I think you have to admit they are two VERY evenly matched teams…EAST just forgot how to tackle in the last 3+ minutes of the game and with the caliber team KELL has you cannot do that.

For the first time these schools played each other that was PLAYOFF atmosphere and a GREAT game…HOWEVER that was then and this is now…

HIRAM gets the nod this week because you are playing them at HIRAM and they will play KELL as tough a game as EAST did. KELL as you stated has 4 weeks of winning against VERY GOOD teams, and 5NAAAA is just too tough a region for any team to go undefeated. This is KELL’s week to fall but not by much…I expect a VERY close score.

I’ll stay with my predictions and we will see come Sat morn where everyone is at…

TICK…TICK…TICK…BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

GO RAIDERS!!!!!

COWBELLMAN

September 23rd, 2010
5:36 pm

I’m gonna say Kell beats Hiram. Cannon your right about one thing, East and Kell are two very evenly matched teams. Both play solid defense and offense. Whats goin to hurt hiram is the inability to become a balanced offense and being able to throw and run the ball. They are a Wing-T team who doesn’t throw it much at all. I’ll take Kell 17-10.

trojan94

September 23rd, 2010
5:44 pm

where is the kell-hiram game going to be played?

JE

September 23rd, 2010
7:00 pm

Hate that I’m not gonna be able to come up and see the North/East game tomorrow night. I know a lot of those boys are lookign forward to that game. It should be a great game, as I know East is gonna bring it. Hope it’s a great and safe game. Go Wolfpack.

@Cannon Rules/Cowbellman-If there is anyway ya’ll could maybe just post a score every qtr or something I would greatly appreciate it. I’ve been trying to come up and catch as many games as I can this year but won’t be able to head back home this weekend and I think the anticipation of waiting until midnight to find out the final would kill me. haha

tigonian02

September 23rd, 2010
8:59 pm

VALDOSTA!!!!!! They haven’t been 4-0 since 2001. This is a good season for them so far. I don’t know how long it will last however

honetfan

September 23rd, 2010
9:11 pm

Keep believen Hiram runs a typical wing t. I do not doubt this will be a true test. I have nothing to say negative about Kell they are a goof team. Howerver I SERIOUSLY doubt Kells coach OR any couch in our region believes we don’t through the ball well, but I hope the coach thinks the same as you.

joe

September 23rd, 2010
9:35 pm

Chamblee gives SWD a fight 2morro.

The Doc

September 23rd, 2010
9:46 pm

@ Joe,,
I normally agree with you but Chamblee will take another whipping tommorow. Quick question…Does SWD still have a chance to make the playoffs now that they have lost to both Tucker and Marist?

leechampion

September 23rd, 2010
9:52 pm

shaw 39 lagrange 35 upset of season so far

SGT CHRIS

September 23rd, 2010
10:13 pm

leechampion—i would totally agree with that one…id say we choked…up 28-0..yep we choked

trojan94–i think after witnessing the defense played tonight, your prediction of a blowout might be on the money; no pass defense, no form tackling…not to mention im sure rayvaughN teague will do his homework and outcoach coach pardue, which is becoming increasingly easy to do these days SMDH!!!!

Quinn of the Ridge

September 23rd, 2010
10:36 pm

The Ridge rolls. 51-0.

blu eagle

September 23rd, 2010
11:01 pm

Surprise of the year would be Kell, they are having a great year so far. Dissapointments would be Newnan and W.Robins in 4A. The season is cranking up though so who knows. Good luck everybody Friday nite and where did ENR go?

westlakebaby

September 23rd, 2010
11:34 pm

westlake is ganna lose lol idk tho

mistermak

September 24th, 2010
12:09 am

next week the #5 and #6 team in the nation meet on ESPN U! can you guess who they are?

maroonandgold

September 24th, 2010
5:47 am

Go Tucker Tigers!

Enomar

September 24th, 2010
6:14 am

Kenno Loyal (Columbia High School) 3 games 700 yards rushing 9TD’s. The next great RB from the peach state. This kid is the REAL DEAL!!!!

Wolverine Fan

September 24th, 2010
6:50 am

Why is it that when some teams loose it is always the officals fault? Is their a medical condition that causes this?

Wolverine Fan

September 24th, 2010
6:55 am

Newnan came to “Our House” with all the swagger of a team that was about to show Woodstock “How a real 5A team gets it done” After the game alot “not all” Newnan fans immediatley started blamming the refs. Crazy.

BANDWAGON

September 24th, 2010
6:57 am

Another friday, another tuneup game for some and an establishment of programs for others. Think that I will go checkout that Lowndes/Ware game. That’s wither a blowout or Ware will make a game out of it. North Gwinnett tunes up against Meadowcreek, Camden against Bradwell, The Ridge against Mountain View. South Gwinnett and Parkview should be a good game. Duluth and Collins Hill is intriguing. Collins Hills needs a running game to go with their passing game as does South Gwinnett. Brookwood and Central may scrap. That Ware/Lowndes game has developed into a rivalry game. It’s being played in the SWAMP, we will see if Lowndes shows up and shows out. I have seen Lowndes twice this year and have yet to decide if they have the “IT” of other Lowndes teams. There is something missing from this team. Ware can make a statement with a victory, they are 3-0 on the season, but not ranked, a win could get them in. NG what happened to the balanced offense that was being reported on in the local papers? You should use this week to try to focus on the running game. Having two QB’s with varying styles is nice, but, No running game in the playoffs will cost you. Look what happened to all of the passing teams in AAAAA last year. Good luck to all teams this weekend, may you be injury free and show great sportsmanship.

The Cannon Rules!

September 24th, 2010
7:45 am

Wolverine Fan…

You are right that bad calls happen “from time to time” to all teams. I also like your comment that when they do you “move forward”…

The EAST / KELL game was the first meeting of these two schools, and was an important region game for both teams…This I think had the emotions running a bit higher than some games…While I am not going to blame the games outcome on bad calls this game had it’s share of them.

Almost from the start this games officials made bad spots, missed offside calls, blew obvious pass interference calls, even blew a fumble call. They allowed late hits and “horsecollar tackles” and called plays back for illegal blocks that were nothing more than hard legal tackles. I don’t know if they just were not used to calling games with strong defensive teams or what the problem was but it was not fair to the kids.

Even with all this which caused the offense to overcome huge yardage deficits the game was still tied at half time and the kids did what you said…they overcame all this to play a great game…this game was NOT decided by bad calls, it was decided by VERY BAD tackling in the last 5+ minutes of the game.

What you have to question is without the bad calls would the game still have been as close as it was in those last 5+ minutes…???!!!

Anyway that was then and this is now…

NORTH PAULDING coming to “THE BONEYARD” tonight to face our RAIDERS!!!

TICK…TICK…TICK…BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!

GO RAIDERS!!!!!!

TD

September 24th, 2010
7:52 am

Cannon Rules…. Your evaluation is right, but one thing…. East didn’t just forget how to tackle for three min…. Does that really seem right to you? Give credit where credit is due… Kell running backs… Took what they wanted….or I guess you would say… They remembered how to run for 3 min. You got to want it… and Kell wanted it more… It was not a memory lapse..( don’t make yourself sound silly)

trojan94

September 24th, 2010
7:54 am

WOW! WHAT A SHOCKER THAT IS! I DIDN’T EVEN SEE SHAW AS A THREAT THIS YEAR. I AM GLAD WE GET THEM AT HOME.

ron

September 24th, 2010
7:54 am

Go Camden gettin ready for the big game next friday on ESPN,,,,

WILDCAT FAN

September 24th, 2010
8:04 am

Coach Herron, I heard will start back-up Brice Ramsey at QB tonight. His goal is to get him some snaps, with the first team. And some other backups will start as well. No discipline reason or anything, just to get snaps while the game has meaning. I went to watch practice yesterday and that was the word, because he was working with the first team. This kid and he is a sophmore is for real. Will be a top 2 or 3 QB prospect in the state by his senior year. I went to watch my nephew play yesterday he is on the 9th grade team. They beat Hilliard Fla JV team 60-0, that was our 9th graders against their JV. They have one more game against another schools JV. My point is they’re grooming these kids for the years to come. Normally we are Senior led team, but not this year, 9 of the 11 starters on defense will be back, a QB thats ready to step in and play. 20 backs carried the ball last week. 4 Quarterbacks played. Most will say he can do that because it was Windsor Forest, but he ran players in and out on every play against Central. 7 backs carried it against Central. Rotated the D-Line in and out all night, the same with the backs. 2 different kickers was doing the kick-offs. Didn’t throw but, 5 times but ran different recievers in and out all night. 4 different recievers catching a pass. So he does this no matter the opponent.

The Cannon Rules!

September 24th, 2010
8:46 am

TD…

KELL / EAST…TIED at 6 at halftime…NOBODY took anything, both teams slugged it out and BOTH teams fought to get the ONE TD each team got…KELL missed the extra point and the BLOCKED the EAST attempt!!

3rd quarter…ALL EAST for the 13 to 6 score!

4th quarter…EAST driving for the WINNING TD…inside the KELL 40 when the KELL “D” rose up and held EAST on a 4th down play…turning point in the game as KELL drove back down to tie, this is the beginning of what I referenced as EAST forgetting how to tackle as you guys went for it on 4th and goal and EAST forgot to cover the receiver who scored to tie at 13…

KELL then all but ran out the clock on the next drive to go up 20 / 13 leaving EAST with 36 (+ -) sec on the clock. It was on THIS scoring drive that the EAST “D” missed so many tackles, didn’t wrap up your running backs and let the receivers have WAY too much space…

However either of us see it…THIS TIME Kell won and EAST lost but it was ONE CLOSE GAME and I still say it came down to the last possesion…EAST just ran out of time, 30 more sec. on that clock and we might STILL BE PLAYING THE GAME!!!

TICK…TICK…TICK…BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!

GO RAIDERS!!!!!!

Scott

September 24th, 2010
8:57 am

The Buford/Lovett game should be a good one. Remember that Lovett knocked Buford off in the regular season last year and Buford will be looking for some payback. Both teams are very talented, and it should be a fun game to watch.

NewnanGoHard 2011

September 24th, 2010
9:02 am

At 1-2 after being beaten by Peachtree Ridge and WoodStock(fair-catch) The New season start tonight with Region play….Time to get Crunk….Go Hard Newnan!Big defensive Lineman OD #54 is back for his first game of this year and will be moved to DE.

Raidernation258

September 24th, 2010
9:09 am

WOW..Just wanna say CONGRATS! to the Shaw Raiders.Great win last night against a very good Lagrange team. Just goes to show you that no matter what is said..the game still has to be played. I don’t think many people gave them a chance against Lagrange..but they’ve got some good athletes on that team…it was just a matter of putting it all together and they did that last night. Go Raiders!!!!

Northside Observer

September 24th, 2010
9:25 am

blu eagle—— You can find a long commentary from ENR under, “Top Ten Football Games StatewideThis Week This Week”.

4Real

September 24th, 2010
9:28 am

@The doc, yes SWD can still make the playoffs. They hold their own destiny and could either be the 3rd or 4th seed if they win the rest of their regular season games. Mays(4-0) has games left with Tucker(4-0) and Marist(3-1) that will probably determine the order of the seedings. I think these 4 Teams will represent 6AAAA in the playoffs. Mays, Tucker, Marist and SWD the order of finish to be determined.

yo

September 24th, 2010
9:30 am

Bandwagon agree with you on Lowndes this year and the “IT” factor.
Are they going to be like the 2007 team that started slow and was a big question mark but by year end was clicking on all cylinders?
They definitely aren’t the 2008 and 2009 teams who were as talented as
any Lowndes teams ever only to find out both were missing the “IT” factor by year end. The “IT” factor is what takes a team over the top and obviously Camden had “IT” the last 2 years even though on paper they
weren’t an equal to Lowndes. Just goes to show that talent is only as good as the “IT” factor.

cane fan

September 24th, 2010
9:53 am

Fitzgerald will dismantle the Albany Indians tonight, cant wait to meet the Cook Hornets next week, everyone is saying that cook is not the same team……well Fitzgerald IS the same team, they will blow you all out the water if you are not ready……..anyhow Lovett I hope you are ready for tonight and good luck. GO PURPLE HURRICANES!!!!!!!!!

THE CANNON RULES!!!!

September 24th, 2010
10:16 am

kell fan…

Good Post! While I agree there was a LOT of bad calls during the game (see a previous post I made) they DID NOT cost EAST the game.

AVikingFan

September 24th, 2010
10:17 am

I agree with ya’ll bout the “IT” factor! Lowndes had it in 04, got it in 05 after Ware, and slowly built it durinf the season in 07.

QUESTION TO THE CANNON RULES _ Just asking, you mentioned “horse collar tackles”. I agree they can be very dangerous, but are they “illegal’ in GHS Football? I think there is no rule against it. This is kinda like the “uncatchablle pass” rule in the pros where a DB can hit a receiver if the ball is uncatchable. As we say in South Georgia. “Ain’t no rule in GHS football about an uncatchable pass. If the ball is in the air and the DB hits a Receiver, it’s interferance!
I also think all face mask penalties in GHS Football are 15 yard penalties. And it applies to grabbing any part of the helment.

I do agree with the East Paulding posters that a lot better oversight and trsaining needs to be done to get officials in better positions to make calls. Especially when marking forward progress, out of bounds plays, etc. I remember the EP folks complaining about the officials at Grayson in the 08 playoffs, and we went up there the next week and had the same officials, and they made the same kind of calls – and non calls – that EP had complained about.

At McEachern this year on our first play of the game we were penalized 15 yards because an offical could see our number 7’s knee that was not covered by his pants. When the official came over to explain the call to Coach Randy McPherson, Randy said “sir look right there, I see 1, 2, 3, 4 McEachern players’ knees right now.” The offical said “Coach we called the penalty against Lowndes, not McEachern.” I swear that actually happened.

So when I hear fans ballyhooping about officails, I have learned thru the years they may be right. Georgia it seems does not have the training, oversight, and punishment for repeated bad calls that we need, especially with the emphasis placed on high school football.

I’m not crying over spilt milk, and like everyone says, we all have to “move on.” But I think Mr. Swearingen and his folks need to make some officials move on also.

Bad officiating can rob any team of its “IT FACTOR.”

Mr. Johnson

September 24th, 2010
10:20 am

MLK is going to demolish Langston Hughes Saturday night… 56-0 is my prediction!! Everyone needs to come out and watch the air show that the Lions have been putting on this season….

Let the kids play

September 24th, 2010
10:31 am

Good luck to all the teams tonight !!! May the best teams win !!!

2A Fan

September 24th, 2010
10:48 am

Go Charlton!!

PDF

September 24th, 2010
10:52 am

Wolverine Fan, I hear you and understand. Those are football want-a-be. Was there bad or questionable calls, sure. That’s in every game and sport. But that’s not what cost us the game. We play a good Woodstock team and made to many mistakes on our own. Good luck to you guys the rest of the year.

Trojan94

September 24th, 2010
10:58 am

SGTCHRIS it is hard pressed for me to blame a coach who have won three state titles in the past decade. To me the problem is the grangers do not have the talent now as they did back then. You can’t coach these players like you did with those teams. Coaches can not play a down in any game, it’s up to your SR and team captians to provent your team from losing 28-0 lead. THERE IS SOMETHING TO BE SAID ABOUT PLAYING WITH HEART DO YOU NOT AGREE?

Wolverine Fan

September 24th, 2010
11:23 am

PDF same to you. I spoke with some of yor asst’s before the game and helped them with your water jugs. Very nice guys and alot of class.

Dylan

September 24th, 2010
11:29 am

Well hopefully my NW Whitfield Bruins stay close with Chattahoochee. If we can at least compete I’ll be happy!

GO BRUINS!

Gametime

September 24th, 2010
11:39 am

Another great game being played tonight is Carver-Montgomery,AL vs. Colquitt Co. I’m from South Georgia and always favor the South Georgia teams. I’ve seen Carver-Montgomery play several games this season and they are very good. My prediction is:

Carver-Montgomery 28 vs. Colquitt Co. 21

Outsider

September 24th, 2010
11:56 am

You LOWNDES fans irk the H— out of me. You guys are the biggest cry babies ever. Its alway what Lowndes did, oh they beat themselves the officials blew the game. Do you guys ever lose. Now its the IT FACTOR, what is the IT FACTOR. Thats some made up term. Its not whose better on paper, its who is better on the field, thats the IT FACTOR. You guys had great players, Camden had great teams, thats the IT FACTOR. And I’m not a Camden fan, just tired of the crying from the Lowndes fans. The IT FACTOR is found in teams not indidivual players. Until Lowndes start playing like a team, it will never get the IT FACTOR back and will never knock Camden back to earth, because I think Lowndes is the only team that can do it, maybe not this year. Camden plays with the IT FACTOR and thats why its 4-2 Camden in the last 6 meetings. Those things make the IT FACTOR, you have or you don’t, and right now Lowndes don’t.

SouthGARules

September 24th, 2010
11:58 am

Quinn: I think you might be selling the Ridge a little short tonight. FWIW: tonight is Mountain View’s HC. Someone needs to educate these folks you invite the Meadowcreek’s of the world for HC, not teams like the Ridge! I wonder who will put the biggest beatdown tonight: North Gwinnett, The Ridge, MLK or Fitzgerald.

Gametime

September 24th, 2010
12:11 pm

Valdosta will have a tough challenge tonight with Lee from Montgomery AL. Lee current record is 0-4, but don’t be surprise.

WOLFPACK PRIDE

September 24th, 2010
12:23 pm

Cannon Rule, I hope your ready for some of this tonight! WOLFPACK 42 EP 28!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWZxZLxDDvY

HeadEast

September 24th, 2010
12:25 pm

Losers whine about the refs, winners go home with the prom queen! East got sacked for an 8 yard loss on a 2nd and five play when they had been driving and couldn’t overcome it. Kell barely escaped an 8 or 9 yard sack on 2nd and five when they were driving, went on to convert on 4th and 1 (again) and then busted a big run. There weren’t any bad calls at those crucial moments, Kell executed and East didn’t, on both sides of the ball down the stretch.
Having said that, I have to pull for Hiram tonight althought they will have their hands full. As for the Boneyard, East better find some pass defense because North can really throw the ball. Raiders are home and own Paulding county until proven otherwise. Here comes the BOOM!!!!

EagleNationRising

September 24th, 2010
12:25 pm

Lowndes County had the “IT” factor last season according the the overwhelming number of posters on this site. Then, our Northside Eagles took “IT” from the Vikings and the team has played gutless ever since. Lowndes County is not a good road program and the Vikes are on the road tonight. It is challenging for even the most loyal Viking posters to identify big road wins for Lowndes. However I believe that Lowndes is going to put their foot on Ware County’s throat tonight. Playing in a very weak region, this is practically the last BIG game that Lowndes County has before going into the State Playoffs. It is important for Lowndes to make a statement tonight.