New HS rankings and what Kell did Saturday
Just how much difference is there between the five classifications in Georgia high school football any more?
Cook (AA) beat Colquitt County, the preseason #5 in AAAAA. Fitzgerald blew away Tift in another Region 1-AA vs. 1-AAAAA game.
But for symbolism, there was a more significant upset:
Kell over Grayson, the #10 team in AAAAA.
It really wasn’t much of an upset as far as a surprise goes. Grayson suffered heavy graduation losses, and Kell was a AAAAAplayoff team in 2009 that returned an AJC Super 11 player in Brian Randolph.
But this is what’s significant: Kell is one of 54 schools that dropped in classification this year.
Several major programs – from Northside to Warner Robins to Carver to Dalton to Sandy Creek to Charlton County – moved down.
With less fanfare, several more solid programs also went down: Kell, Pope, East Paulding, Union Grove, Chapel Hill, Chattahoochee.
In doing preseason all-state teams for GHSF Daily last week, I noted that the AAAA all-star team would beat the AAAAA all-star team. AAAA has more major college prospects. It also has more teams – about 85 to 60.
IMO, AAAAA is still the best class, and the depth of AAAAA’s top 10 still will be a little better in the end than in AAAA. But the gap has shrunk.
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Class AAAAA
1. Camden County (0-0)
2. Lowndes (1-0)
3. North Gwinnett (1-0)
4. Peachtree Ridge (1-0)
5. Newnan (0-0)
6. Stephenson (0-0)
7. McEachern (0-1)
8. Roswell (0-0)
9. Valdosta (0-0)
10. Brookwood (1-0)
Class AAAA
1. Northside-Warner Robins (0-0)
2. Griffin (0-0)
3. Clarke Central (0-0)
4. Tucker (0-0)
5. Thomas County Central (0-0)
6. Warner Robins (0-0)
7. Hiram (0-0)
8. Marist (0-0)
9. Apalachee (0-0)
10. Kell (1-0)
Class AAA
1. Sandy Creek (0-0)
2. Peach County (0-0)
3. Cairo (0-0)
4. St. Pius (0-0)
5. Washington County (0-0)
6. Westside-Macon (0-0)
7. Baldwin (0-0)
8. North Hall (0-0)
9. Eastside (0-0)
10. Gainesville (0-0)
Class AA
1. Buford (0-0)
2. Carver-Columbus (0-0)
3. Calhoun (0-0)
4. Fitzgerald (1-0)
5. Dublin (0-0)
6. Westminster (0-0)
7. Cook (1-0)
8. Thomasville (1-0)
9. Hart County
10. Lovett (0-1)
Class A
1. Charlton County (0-0)
2. Wilcox County (0-0)
3. Wesleyan (0-0)
4. Clinch County (0-0)
5. Lincoln County (0-0)
6. Emanuel County Institute (0-0)
7. Savannah Christian (0-0)
8. Bowdon (0-0)
9. Eagle’s Landing Christian (0-0)
10. Greenville (0-0)
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213 comments Add your comment
AVikingFan
August 24th, 2010
3:23 pm
Does anone know where JAYBO coaches? (He’s Thomas County Central’s biggest blogger and seems to be quite respected – except by the infamous ENR, who by the way hasn’t joined us yet this year)
SportsFan31313 – has Bradwell played yet? If so how’d they do?
Does anyone know if Nick Marshall was hurt seriously? He is a great athlete and I shore am glad he’s going to UGA! In all the years I’ve watched football, I’ve never seen fans cheer when someone got hurt. A polite round of applause when he leaves the field is one thing, but cheering because he got hurt???!! Come on Fitzgerald fans!!! Say it ain’t so! Ya’ll are better than that. What would Wright Bazemore think about that?
Is it just me, or has it been real quite from over Colquitt County way this week? I don’t mean any disrespect and I know it’s going to be a long season, but I live about 8 miles from COOK COUNTY, which is adjacent to Lowndes on our north side! I see my buddies and want to talk Lowndes football but all everyone down here is talking about is COOK. I know one thing, Valdosta had better be careful this week playing AA Brooks County, which by the way borders Lowndes on our west side. They say “bad things” happen in threes. (Tifton, Colquitt, ???? Valdosta) Nahhhh! Can’t happen to 35 seniors coached 3 years by Rick Tomberlin! Valdosta in a rout!
BIG CAT
August 24th, 2010
3:58 pm
CAMDEN CO. RULES THE STATE EVERBODY ELSE IS A JOKE. MAKE IT THREE IN A ROW THIS YEAR. RAN NORTHSIDE BACK DOWN TO 4A.
BIG CAT
August 24th, 2010
5:25 pm
Enter your comments here
cougarfan forever
August 24th, 2010
6:38 pm
thanks for the kind ranking to start. newnan has a brand new team this year, we lost alot of players. hope to make the plat offs with alot of sophmores. this will be a tuff rebuilding year. good luck everyone.
cougarfan forever
August 24th, 2010
6:39 pm
soory type o. playoffs
amazed
August 24th, 2010
7:21 pm
wildcat fat, please explain your logic where camden co would beat grayson 9 or 10 out of 10… seeing as how the stat line read like this: total yards Grayson: 248 Camden: 108, o not to mention no player on camden rushed over 28 yards, meanwhile a 5 foot 8 back who cant even see over the line rushed for 133 yards (well over the total for the game for your beloved wildcats) and you wanna know who plays in gwinnett? ok here it goes. North Gwinnett: my pick for the champ, South Gwinnett: dangerously close to beating the untouchables (Lowndes) Grayson: young but will be in the thick of it come december, Brookwood: back on the map after the kell classic, Peachtree Ridge: year in and year out could be considered in the top 5… need i go on? my point is this (once again, hopefully you will understand this time) Has the SEC won 4 straight national championships? yes, but does that mean that the big 12, big 10 and pac 10 teams are worthless and have no shot? Try explaining this logic to texas, nebraska, oklahoma, usc, and ohio state fans…
amazed
August 24th, 2010
7:22 pm
fan*
wardawg
August 24th, 2010
8:24 pm
Amazed, do you look up fatcs or do you make them up:
Brookwood: 1-1 Region 8-AAAAA
North Gw 1-0 Region 7-AAAAA
PTR 1-0 Region 7-AAAAA
Parkview 1-0 Region 8-AAAAA
Walton 1-0 Region 8-AAAAA
Stars Mill 1-0
Norcross 1-0 Region 7-AAAAA
Grayson 1-1 Region 8-AAAAA
Dacula 0-1 Region 8-AAAAA
Woodstock 1-0 Region 5-AAAAA
Camden is: 9-3 against Gwinnett area schools. Majority of the victories were during the Kell classic. Yes Grayson beat Camden lat year by 3, but Camden ende up State Champs. Camden beat Grayson 22-7 in the playoffs (when it counts). They beat Woostock and PTR in the payoffs to go 15-0 08/09. State Champs.
Camden has 3 titles, Lowdnes has 3 Titles and Parkview has 3 titles. Roswell/PTR shared a title. All since AAAAA came in to play in 2000. I am sure Camden would give up an early season game to win another State Title.
guwinster
August 24th, 2010
8:43 pm
Hambone- I can’t speak for the other AAAAA teams, but Camden used to play Charlton every year back when they were winning state championships with regularity. Guess what? We have about a 19-2 record against them, and at the turn of the century we didn’t just beat them, we ran up the score on them. In the end we had to stop playing the best AA team because they simply weren’t good enough.
It’s no surprise that Buford and a hand full of other top tier AA teams can beat the .500 teams from Texas and the 2-8 teams from Ohio. They can also beat some of the 3rd and 4th seeds from some of AAAAA’s regions, but the top AAAAA teams are going to beat them 9 times out of 10. The Cook victory was a rarity, and need I remind you that it is Cook not Buford that has AA’s biggest win in recent history.
Flyer
August 24th, 2010
8:48 pm
Wardawg– Camden is a great team and has done some great things the last 15 years. But you should really be careful when quoting facts when you do not have the facts correct. Woodstock, Walton and Starr’s Mill are no where near Gwinnett County. I appreciate you trying to embelish the record, but there really is no need. Camden’s record against Gwinnett county schools is 6-3. I guess that didn’t look as impressive.
Flyer
August 24th, 2010
8:51 pm
guwinster– Well said. Bufordites are always bring up how they went to Ohio and Texas and beat them up. They just leave out who they played
southernpride
August 24th, 2010
9:26 pm
Cook is known for UPSETS. Go back to 2005 when they upset Dublin who was undefeated and had only allowed seven points in 11 games, and then the past three years they’ve upset several #1 seeds in the playoffs (as a #4 seed). Recently last week, they upset nationally ranked Colquitt. Cook is UPSET UNIVERSITY.
goldenglove002
August 24th, 2010
9:30 pm
Kell really had to take advantage of Grayson’s deficiencies to get the win on Saturday, but the bottom line was that they did. The defense was quite impressive. If Petrik (QB) can continue to improve and the defense continues to play like they, did, they’re going to have an exciting team.
WoodstockWolverine10
August 24th, 2010
9:44 pm
Kell comes to Etowah in week 2…. WATCH OUT… All of that Kell hype might quickly dissapear…
CCHS Fan
August 24th, 2010
9:49 pm
I’ll pay the moving cost to get this joke out of Moultrie.
goldenglove002
August 24th, 2010
9:56 pm
Etowah tore up Kell last year and Kell hasn’t changed at all other than getting older. Should be interesting. I’m looking forward to see what they can do against Etowah and Woodstock in weeks 2 and 3
amazed
August 24th, 2010
10:09 pm
hey wardawg, what a great attempt!! good for you man, seriously keep trying and youll get it right eventually. and i find it funny how you call me out for mentioning the one game but the whole point of the conversation was camden and lowndes recent dominance… yes it was one game but it was ONE game against a gwinnett county opponent, farrrrr different from the other 8 or so victories you wrapped up last regular season against inferior opponents
Dustin
August 24th, 2010
10:09 pm
Etowah? Lol dude come on. Etowah fell apart last year and all Kell did was improve. You can’t seriously think that Ghetowah will beat my Longhorns….. We’ve got Mr. Tennessee (one of the best safeties in the state) and a defense that will shut you down.
and @goldenglove002, Kell didn’t play Etowah last season, they played Woodstock.
amazed
August 24th, 2010
10:11 pm
http://www.ajc.com/sports/high-school/grayson-upends-defending-champ-121805.html
wardawg please point out where i misquoted any of the facts i stated in my post
goldenglove002
August 24th, 2010
10:14 pm
My bad, it was indeed Woodstock. Tend to mix up the two schools since they are right down the street from each other. I still expect Etowah to be a decent challenge.
boondock boy
August 24th, 2010
10:42 pm
Testing
GACfan
August 24th, 2010
11:41 pm
All of this is interesting but what about GAC???? Nothing!!!!! hahahahahahahahahaha….guess we’ll be talking about them in playoffs!!! That’s fine!!!! I want to see what the new recruits bring….Rickmans anyone?????
HARDAWAY HEROES
August 25th, 2010
2:35 am
What happened to the 100-mile rule??? (speaking of region 1-AAAA)
Columbus to Warner robins (103 miles)
Columbus to Leesburg (82 miles)
Columbus to Thomasville (146 miles)
Columbus to Bainbridge (128 Miles)
so its safe to say it can and probably is being done in other regions. so my question is, is there really a 100 mile rule? if so, why doesnt apply to this region?
and does valdosta really have SEVEN homes games this year?? wow talk about mileage next year lol!!!
HARDAWAY HEROES
August 25th, 2010
2:41 am
by the way Columbus Northern spanks some team from Ohio 6-0 in the LLWS!!
NG
August 25th, 2010
3:32 am
@hambone…idk if you live in buford or if u know what your talking about or what but Buford won’t play us boss, we have tried to schedule them for 3 years.
Sowega Sam
August 25th, 2010
5:40 am
For the person that wanted to find the Georgia High School Football game schedule,
try this site:
http://www.ghsa.net/2010-ghsa-football-schedule
As a matter of fact, GHSA.net gives you a ton of information from rules to schedules, on all sports.
It is also a good location for the “run to the championship” brackets at the end of the regular season.
wardawg
August 25th, 2010
5:46 am
Amazed, you are amazing. I don’t believe that Camden considered the opponenets faced after Newton county to be inferior. Lowndes, Colquitt, North Gwinnett and Northside. These were the best that AAAAA had left, that’s why there is a playoff, to separate the wheat from the tare. To be the Teamhave to beat the Team. Until someone beats Camden, they are that Team.
Wolverine Fan
August 25th, 2010
6:59 am
I still say that if Camden had to play the big boys week in and week out it would take a toll on them come playoff time.
John
August 25th, 2010
9:25 am
The only way to settle the Buford / N.G. fued is on the field. All time record is in favor of Buford 22-5-1. Everything else is just BS.
amazed
August 25th, 2010
9:46 am
wardawg, once again i ask you… which of my statements is false
another VIKING fan
August 25th, 2010
10:01 am
Amazed is amazing. The North Ga schools, Gwinnett County in particular, are supposed to be academically superior to south ga schools. Yet you obviously did not do well in Logic. Grayson has won two games in thier existance, one against Lowndes and one against Camden. That does not make you a contender for anything, as your Championship record verifies.
By the way S. G. had a couple of big plays in the forth quarter, never really a threat to win the game. Yet they will do well in the regular season and will probably go deep into the playoffs.
When all is said and done the 1-AAAAA teams will be well represented come playoff time.
THE CANNON RULES!!!!
August 25th, 2010
11:36 am
Hey South Paulding…Your FIRST RAIDER’S COUNTDOWN CLOCK continues…
It’s 55 Hours+ and counting until you have your FIRST visit to “THE BONEYARD”…
TICK…TICK…TICK…BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO RAIDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
amazed
August 25th, 2010
11:44 am
viking fan, please tell me where i said that grayson is a threat for a championship? I said they would be there as in 2nd or 3rd round of playoffs never said they would win a championship I was saying that gwinnett county has far better depth. once again NOTHING on how grayson is a contender, actually i believe i said that i was picking NG. But hey, im sure you hicks mean well having each others back, next time however please read the comments before jumping into a debate that is not worth having seeing as how grayson has a completely different team this year
blu eagle
August 25th, 2010
11:47 am
Hey Wolverine fan you are exactly right, Camden plays a pretend region schedule every year and better be glad they don’t have to play NSWR again and No they didn’t knock NSWR down they are up again and better than ever!
Wolverine2Blazer
August 25th, 2010
11:52 am
I agree with yah Wolverine Fan, but sadly that wont ever happen. Camden’s just in a bad spot.
And wardawg, you know darn well that Woodstock record could be 0-1 and if it werent for the pick 6 we would of had that state title.
Old Wildcat
August 25th, 2010
12:11 pm
The nay-saying has begun already. First, fans around the states complains about Camden’s schedule. With the exception of Region 1 & 3, who wants Camden in their region/schedule…let’s be honest. (Be careful for what you wish for because it may come true) Sometime happiness is not being there…get my drift.
Next until Camden is beaten, don’t complain. Last but not least, someone step up to the plate and take command or suffer defeat.
BTW, take a look at what’s on Camden schedule:
http://flavarsity.rivals.com/content.asp?SID=957&CID=1116432
Nukieie
August 25th, 2010
12:12 pm
What is it with all the bashing of who does better academically, last time I checked all have the same graduation requirements. WHY do people have to stoop so low as to start Name calling. If you guys really knew how bad it makes you respective school look you would think twice about doing so. In most cases all the name calling comes from those who shoul be adults. But I wonder sometime about their education if they have to stoop so low as to start some kind of pre-school name calling. When you talk bad about some one it make you look even worse.
Come on people GROW up.
Fear the Veer
August 25th, 2010
12:15 pm
Colquitt County’s troubles are just beginning. This week they have South Panola, Miss., and the week after that, the mighty Jackets of TCC at the Jacket’s Nest……Could very well be an 0-3 start for the Pack.
hdawg
August 25th, 2010
12:50 pm
OK. Cook beat Colquitt….its time to move on. Packer schedule is way too tough to be worrying about what happened on Fri. Those types of games will happen occasionally. As for all the talk of Cook dominating the game- that is just nonsense. If these two teams were to play 10 times, Colquitt would most likely win 9. Just a total lack of concentration and focus on the offensive side of the ball. Very atypical of a Propst-coached team. Even with the penalties, fumble and int’s still 440 yds. of offense. I really believe they got caught looking ahead to South Panola. You just can’t do that and expect to win by just showing up! When these mistakes are ironed out this could be one of the most talented Packer squads ever. Not taking anything away from Cook. They are a good AA team and will go far in their playoffs. Best of luck to both teams this season!
still a fan
August 25th, 2010
1:34 pm
Dark bronco with twin horses and a thrower will rise this year to surprise some top GW teams into the playoffs.
Concession food is good at Grayson, run Mickey run.
AVikingFan
August 25th, 2010
1:50 pm
HARDAWAY HEROES -
AVikingFan
August 25th, 2010
2:16 pm
HARDAWY HEROES – The 100 mile rule applies to games played on a night followed by a school day, as with Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday. This rule limits B teams and Freshman teams to how far they can travel because they normally play on Wednesday or Thursday. So to comply with the rule, those 100+ mile games have to be scheduled either Friday or Saturday nights, and usually when the Varsity is out of town, which is not fair to fans and often parents who have kids on both the Varsity and one of those other teams. Further complicating this is the rule applies to ALL sports played by those high schools, not jst football.
Increasing the minimum to say, 125 or 150 miles would help, but in these hard times I’m not sure what hardship that would put on the budgets of these schools. I think it would end up causing some schools to delete certain sports from what they participate in.
Camden has that problem when considering joining 1-AAAAA. It’s over a 100 miles to every school in our Region for them, or for us going there. And I’m sure it’s that far to Savannah for them also, which makes scheduling a nightmare for all sports. That may one day be the “straw that broke the wagon” issue that causes them to build a 2nd highschool and split their enrollment, thus placing them into a lessor classification.
Dustin
August 25th, 2010
2:17 pm
@goldenglove002, Yeah man I understand, they are literally one mile away from each other so its easy to mix them up.
Woodstock handled us last year because they are just some mean, tough kids up there. I give them the credit, they’re a fierce team. But yeah Etowah will be a challenge but I think my ‘Horns can take them this season. Hopefully, that is. Haha
joe
August 25th, 2010
2:17 pm
Tucker vs Southwest Dekalb is week 1 game of the week.
Tucker vs Marist is week 2 game of the week.
IDC what team you are this i a tough 1st 2 games of the season and they are both road games.
Good Luck Tucker
AVikingFan
August 25th, 2010
2:27 pm
Another congrats to S. Gwinnett. Scoring over 20 points on Lowndes was the 1st time anyone has scored 20 on us since a great Roswell team did it in 2007, the last year we won State!
AVikingFan
August 25th, 2010
2:33 pm
joe, I’m certain a lot of folks in Powder Springs are thinking McEachern’s game with Lowndes on September 3rd will be right up there with Tucker and Marist in significance and excitement. I know we do way down here in John Wayne, Johnny Cash and John Deere country…..
MERCURY22
August 25th, 2010
2:41 pm
Where’s LaGrange?!
To Whoever is Bragging about buford
August 25th, 2010
3:01 pm
get off the band wagon…yal are acting like BAMA fans….Any top five 5-AAAAA team would beat Buford hands down….they wont play north because NG is a great program now compared to years ago, and i played in the state championship against lowndes in ‘07=either lowndes or camden would break buford in half every play for four quarters. A.K.A. they don’t f*%k around down there.
Griffin Dawg
August 25th, 2010
3:04 pm
@ Sowega Sam,
Thanks for the site. I added it to my favorites. It looks like the easiest site to keep up with multiple teams. I’m well past HS, and I like to keep up with Griffin’s old rivals, since we no longer play the vast majority of them (although we did scrimmage Newnan this year). Clarke Central, LaGrange, Newnan, etc. are no longer regular competitors, but the late 70’s and early 80’s were fun times. A lot of that fun and spirit has been taken out of the community with the addition of Spalding, although I understand the reasoning. I just hope the Bears can live up to the hype this year, but they lost a good deal of their smothering D from last year. And I agree with the poster about the lack of respect for N. Clayton’s program. They’ve earned it by now. How about replacing perennial top 10 resident Marist with the Eagles? It seems Marist is always ranked just because of the name of the school. Lastly, I’m glad to see NSWR and WR in AAAA. Call me crazy, but I love good competition.
SouthGARules
August 25th, 2010
3:12 pm
After being @ the South Gwinnett-Lowndes game, I have the following observations
1) Lowndes needs work on special teams (blocked punt, too many men on field (twice), fumbled kickoffs (recovered by Lowndes, but you need to catch the ball).
2) Lowndes DL played well, pressured Kent Rollins all night (under 50% completion rate)
3) Braswell & Hunter are playmakers.
4) South did not give up & fought all night. The final score was a little deceiving, giving that South scored on the final play of the game. However, South did have the ball in Lowndes territory with 3 minutes left, trailing by 8. However, Lowndes stepped up, forcing a turnover & Braswell getting loose & going to the house on the next play to dash South’s hopes.