Georgia Southern had worries about ex-football recruit, Brookwood RB Julian Suber, BEFORE ARREST for armed robbery

Julian Suber's photo on Gwinnett County Sherriff's website

Julian Suber's photo on Gwinnett County Sherriff's website

Georgia Southern coach Jeff Monken had major concerns about one of his top football recruits, Brookwood tailback Julian Suber, long before his recent arrest for armed robbery, according to the Savannah Morning News.

Monken confirmed to newspaper that Suber was released in late April from the Georgia Southern football letter-of-intent that he had signed last February. Last week, Suber was charged with armed robbery, felony weapons and marijuana possession from a alleged May 17 incident in Lawrenceveille.

“The deal we had [with Suber] was keep your nose clean, go to class, do everything your high school teachers tell you and show us you’ve matured,” Monken told the Morning News. Monken said Suber’s football scholarship was revoked on April 21.

“The opportunity to be on the football team is a privilege, not a right,” Monken told the newspaper’s Donald Health.

No. 20 helped lead Brookwood to an upset over McEachern in the playoff opener (AJC)

Suber (No. 20) helped lead Brookwood to an upset over McEachern in the playoff opener. He had 18 carries for 66 yards and 3 TDs (AJC)

The 5-foot-9, 165-pound Suber was Brookwood’s leading rusher this past season, running for 957 yards and 12 touchdowns. Suber, 19, had been one of the headliners for Monken’s first recruiting classes at Georgia Southern. Monken, who was hired away as an assistant at Georgia Tech, said that Suber had gotten some looks from the Yellow Jackets while he was coaching slotbacks at the ACC school.

Monken was giddy about luring Suber to Brookwood. “We’re going to try [Suber] at quarterback,” Monken told the Effingham Herald on signing day. “I think if he can’t play quarterback, there’s about seven places on the field he can play.”

Also, Monken told the Savannah newspaper that junior linebacker Tavaris Williams from Lowndes has been suspended from the football team and is not enrolled in summer school. Williams, 21, was charged with giving a false statement during an investigation unrelated to Suber.

“I felt [Williams' actions] warranted a suspension until we get the whole story, until we find out what actually happened,” Monken said. “[Williams] basically said, ‘I understand.’”

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39 comments Add your comment

Joe

May 31st, 2010
6:26 am

It’s amazing to see how the population shifts have changed Brookwood and Parkview. Those were the best football programs in the state 6 years ago, now they are also-rans. White flight is a double-edged sword.

Dick

May 31st, 2010
7:46 am

They think because they are “athletes” they are above the law. they just threw away a great future. Many people would love to be given a free scholarship.

Durrrr

May 31st, 2010
9:49 am

Tough upbringing? That is no exscuse. Let him rot in prison. What if he had taken a life during the robbery? White flight definately has taken it’s toll on Gwinnett. Or more precisely, the urban invasion has destroyed it.

Tony

May 31st, 2010
9:53 am

Ga Southern screwed themselves when they fired Chris Hatcher. He never has had a recruit released from the team before he ever stepped foot on campus. Monken apparently is starting slow, 1 recruit arrested another suspended before he coaches his first game. It’s not that unusual for a new coach to suspend a player in his first year but I have never heard of a recruit released for an arrest as in this case. It probably has happened but is rare. I just hope the idiot Southern AD gives him more time than he did Coach Hatcher. Just sit back and watch Murry State’s program rise in the next few years.

Morrus

May 31st, 2010
9:55 am

Enter your commenCuriously, in a supposed anti-incumbent year, most of the departing are not retiring but seeking higher office. We may recycle more than we replace. The bad news is that a frustrating 114 seats still have but one contestant. Two of them aren’t even incumbents, meaning they will affect state policy without being vetted by voters. And I have to think that we’d be better off if many had run instead for the Legislature — and cut down on the number running unopposed. Georgia’s problems are numerous. They aren’t going away. There’s too much stale thinking at the Capitol, on both sides of the aisle. New voices would be welcome.ts here

Brock

May 31st, 2010
10:03 am

Morrus took a wrong turn(again). Monken, please throw away the “Mark Richt, guide to recruited players arrests” handbook.

t

May 31st, 2010
10:25 am

Lots of people have tough upbringings – including myself. You make your own choices in life. This is the difference between the liberal parties “society failed me,” and the conservative’s ” you have to take responsibility for your own actions.” Really scary where we’re headed.

Coach Lame Kitten

May 31st, 2010
10:39 am

Anybody got this kid’s cell phone number? He certainly sounds like my kind of kid.

Come on out to USC. Go west, young ‘man’.

Courtney

May 31st, 2010
10:49 am

What a scumbag. Go ahead and execute anyone this dumb b/c they stand no chance of recidivism.

Fred

May 31st, 2010
11:29 am

where was all this vitriol when those young “real murikans” were breaking into over 150 cars in the Johns Creek area and stealing every item they could find? Funny how the AJC never did follow up and say what happened to the “kids”.

Pope UGA XXIII

May 31st, 2010
12:07 pm

Georgia Southern used to have a program that regularly scared
major teams in Division 1. Now, it seems that they have deteriorated
into little more than mid-tier Southern Conference team. Keep on
recruiting players like this and they will soon be joining Western
carolina in the basment.

BIG NICK

May 31st, 2010
1:39 pm

Another thug black athlete heading to prison rather then to school. He will wind up murdered or over dosed right after he is released from prison…

Ga. Baseball

May 31st, 2010
3:09 pm

This is why I am getting disgusted with college football and college basketball. There are so many good kids that don’t get the chance because thugs like this get all the chances. Alot of High School coaches allow these kids to get by with alot just so they can play. There are problems in baseball, but not near as much as you hear in football and basketball. That is why I wonder why the NCAA only allows 11 scholarships. Baseball is the most descriminated sport there is and it may be the cleanest of the big three. I’m sick of all these excuses they make for these kids. Hell alot of people had rough childhoods and have had to do without.

cgatlanta

May 31st, 2010
5:08 pm

Why did my post get deleted? Seriously

Go Eagles...

May 31st, 2010
6:04 pm

Tony, Ga. Southern did not fire Chris Hatcher. Chris Hatcher fired himself by failing to field a competitive team. Losing 5 games last season by double digits does not make an AD happy. Failing to field a playoff team in any of his 3 seasons does not make an AD happy. Getting pushed up and down the field does not make an AD happy. Watching ony 12K fans show up as your team finishes 5-6 does not make an AD happy. He fired himself by not getting the job done pure and simple.
As for Monken, he recruited a questionable kid, gave him a chance and then pulled the plug when the kid didn’t turn his life around. I won’t lay any blame on Monken for that. He was trying to help a kid that wasn’t willing to help himself.

Terry

May 31st, 2010
9:40 pm

You racist bloggers amaze me. The black athlete has been the downfall of Parkview and Brookwood. What a joke.

Tony

May 31st, 2010
9:54 pm

Go Eagles

Your AD admitted in the interview announcing the firing that there was very little in the way of payable athletes from the previous administration I assume he hired also. Then Coach Hatcher had very little time to put together a recruiting class his first year. That leaves 2 years to recruit and put a respectable team on the field. Then Your AD fires Coach Hatcher while essentially admitting he didn’t have a reasonable chance to put together a competitive team. Maybe you should be the one not happy that you have an idiot for an AD and get someone down there that knows something about sports. You tell me just what has Southern done recently that would remotely indicates this guy is a competent AD. As far as Monken he did exactly what several are doing now to win at all cost and recruiting kids that have no chance of making it in a college environment. Hell he couldn’t make in in a high school environment. But as I said watch the Murry State program get better each year. It may take a few years as I don’t know the recruiting base there but they will get better. I don’t know about Southern Monken may also get them better also. Maybe this taught him a lesson to not recruit kids of this nature. The State of Ga has too many good players to have to recruit “questionable ” kids.

Cracker Jacket

May 31st, 2010
10:36 pm

Never a downfall at Tucker High!

Go Eagles...

May 31st, 2010
10:46 pm

Tony,
I am not going to defend our AD one bit. He has made some questionable decisions that have backfired tremendously on him. But Hatcher’s firing was a no brainer IMO. Southern has only had 3 losing seasons in their entire history and Hatcher is responsible for one of those. And if you look at how non-competitive we were last year, you’ll understand why the decision was made. An easy recipe’ for termination is fielding a non-competitive team, having tons of players quit/transfer/flunk out,etc., have a very undisciplined team, and have fan apathy towards the program. Hatcher had all of those. You don’t keep your job when that happens.

Brookwood parent

June 1st, 2010
1:55 am

BOTTOM LINE IS COACH MONKEN FAILED THE KID, QUIT ON JULIAN. HE LOST HOPE AFTER THAT. MONKEN SHOULD’VE PLACED HIM IN JUNIOR COLLEGE OR PREP SCHOOL. MARK RICHT DOESN’T QUIT ON HIS PLAYERS WHEN THEY DO BAD. THEY TRANSFER TO G.M.C. JUNIOR COLLEGE. MONKEN FAILED THE KID AND NO ATLANTA HIGH SCHOOL COACHES SHOULD SEND ANYMORE PLAYERS TO STATESBORO.

Willie Miller

June 1st, 2010
8:03 am

The comments about Parkview & Brookwood are as dumb of a statement as I have ever heard. You would be very surprised at who’s doing most of the break in’s and drugs in those two areas. It’s not the black kids. Before you reply do you resreach. Parkview dad since 2000.

Coach90

June 1st, 2010
8:07 am

Agree we fail this young. GSU knew from the start he needed help.

RobbieDawg85

June 1st, 2010
8:59 am

Kid needed help, huh? Sure he did. Millions of others (black, white, hispanic, asian, etc…) all need help. You know whats ironic? Would you people would defend him and say “he needs help” if he couldn’t run the football very quickly. It’s like the Michael Oher situation… “He was homeless, needed a family and a roof over his head”. B.S.!!! Translation: “He was big and had good feet and could be a standout football player”.

As long as people “help” good football players that are in trouble, all they are doing is enabling them. Brookwood’s coaches and administrators should have been more involved here. They failed him, not the college coach. Let’s help ALL kids regardless of their athletic prowess, because the athlete has already been given infinitely more chances and opportunities than the non-athlete.

treyingeorgia

June 1st, 2010
10:44 am

Go Eagles as a former GSU Alumnus I have to agree with Tony, Hatcher wasn’t given enough time to recruit his players. The administration panicked plain simple and hired Monken from Georgia Tech- and here we go again with this high school offense… once upon a time it was a nice little offense that had its place; but, like the dodo it has come and gone. You hired an assistant from Tech– that is funny… teams today are geared to stop this type of offense… pitiful as I sit here and watch Southern slip even further into mediocrity…

That Guy

June 1st, 2010
10:55 am

Here we go again. The blame game at work. Brookwood parent blaming the Head Football Coach for “FAILING/QUITTING” on the kid. According to the article, Monken gave the kid an ultimatum and the kid FAILED. I guess the idiot was in the wrong place at the wrong time. There are plenty of fish in the fishbowl of what is high school football. Anybody with half a brain knows that opportunity doesn’t come knocking very often, but when it does you better not screw it up. This kid is a screw up.

I’m quite sure that armed robbery, felony weapons and marijuana possession aren’t part of the extracurricular activities that college campuses are looking for in their prospective students, although those types of criminal activity would make any campus more well rounded.

Michael Carvell

June 1st, 2010
1:26 pm

@Everyone, this is just an unfortunate situation. You hate to see something like this happen to ANY YOUNG PERSON. It appears that Julian had many challenges in his life, and the football scholarship was a great opportunity to get things going in a positive direction. I’m sure there were plenty of people (Brookwood officials, friends, mentors) who really tried to help Julian along the way. They all must be devastated and disappointed. Hopefully, those same wonderful people will not give up on Julian now. Now is when he needs friends and encouragement more than ever.

john

June 1st, 2010
4:00 pm

“The administration panicked plain simple and hired Monken from Georgia Tech- and here we go again with this high school offense… once upon a time it was a nice little offense that had its place; but, like the dodo it has come and gone.” Treyinga, wow, just wow. Here we go again with this high school offense? If a high school offense wins you 6 national championships in a 16 year period, there is no reason to get rid of it. GSU never should have abandoned the option. When GSU did abandon the option that is when the program really started to slide. As a GSU alum I know myself and many other alums are very excited to see the offense that won us 6 championships make its return. Oh and by the way GT is 20-6 over two seasons with that high school offense. Moron.

CMR

June 1st, 2010
4:52 pm

Armed robbery? Heck, thats only a 2 game suspension here in Athens.

Ted Striker

June 1st, 2010
5:46 pm

I hope Julian Suber gets things turned around.

p.s. Some people appear to have a desire to turn this story into some sort of convoluted referendum about racial issues. That’s a shame. I don’t much care for racist viewpoints, even if you have an I.Q. of 200.

Eagle Grad

June 1st, 2010
11:29 pm

Tony you are clueless. Hatcher had a revolving door program. Kids were announced on signing day, and mysteriously never heard from again. I have never seen a lower retention rate on players. Also, we have the weakest, slowest squad in the history of our program. Sounds like just what Murray State needs!

Zone3canE

June 2nd, 2010
2:20 am

Very racist statement Joe

Georgia Bred

June 2nd, 2010
5:44 am

To all you COWARD RACIST out there…. FUH Q!!!

mm27

June 2nd, 2010
10:56 am

You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink it(any color horse). Brookwood and Parkview are very close knit communities. Mr. Suber had all the opps.’(if not more) that everyother kid had in these communities. Funny thing is, I know more young Black athletes that have rec’d Div. 1 football scholarships than White from Brookwood lately. Terrence Davis WR(Wake Forest) who took over for Daniel Peek QB(White) after Daniel rapped his jeep around a tree after Prom a few years ago, Kenny Miles RB(U of SC) and Joshua Jackson(Army) to name a few. But what sticks out the most of these young men is their Familys. All tight, Loving family’s. Mr. Davis lost his step dad(NYPD) shortly after graduation and he has not lost any of his motivation to go to school and help take care of his Mother and two younger brothers. So what I’ve witnessed these past few years in the Brookwood community is the strong family bonds and values. Which will prevail regardless of a young mans color. I could go on, but why? Your insecurity’s have you clouded anyway.

SUBER FAN

June 2nd, 2010
11:07 am

WHY IS THAT WHEN IT IS A BLACK KID YOU ASSUME THE WORSE JULIAN IS MY FAMILY AND FOR THE RECORD HE DID NOT GROW UP IN THE HOOD AND HE DID NOT HAVE A BAD UPBRINGING HE GREW UP IN THE SAME BROOKWOOD AND PARKVIEW AREA THAT ALL THE WHITE KIDS DID THAT ARE SUPPOSE TO BE SO PERFECT JULIANS FAMILY IS VERY EDUCATED AND FINACIAL STABLE HE IS JUST A GREAT PLAYER AND NOBODY CANT TAKE THAT TALENT AWAY FROM HIM SO HE WAS OFFERED A SCHOLARSHIP BECAUSE HE EARNED IT. EVERYBODY MAKES MISTAKES AND FOR THE RECORD IT WAS MORE KIDS INVOLVED IN THIS SITUATION AND THEY WERE ALL WHITE BUT GUESS WHAT THEY ARE ALL OUT OF JAIL SO WHAT THE HELL YOU RACIST PEOPLE GOT TO SAY ABOUT THAT I WOULD SAY THE WHOLE SITUATION IS RACIST ALL THE WHITE KIDS GOT OUT BUT THE TWO BLACK ARE STILL IN CUSTODY.PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH BEFORE YOU START ASSUMING AND TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE…

Eagle Grad

June 2nd, 2010
11:44 am

To Brookwod parent: Your post is the most ignorant thing I’ve ever read. So because our coach didn’t want to infect his team, university, and community with this thug he is somehow not caring. What about the 20 other kids who are coming to GSU that have done nothing but work hard in school and be upstanding citizens? Athletic talent doesn’t entitle you to a handout or unlimited supply of “chances.” This kid couldn’t hold his end of the bargain up, so our staff cut their losses and decided to focus on the kids who “Do Right.”

Brookwood Alumni Parent

June 2nd, 2010
6:14 pm

Wake up people, What the hell is the world coming to,You arrest a Student-Athlete on hearsay of a 1.Dope dealer, 2.A pathalogical, chronic liar, no evidence.(Think about it) Kind of backwards to me. Clean your own house before you talk about someone elses. What are your kids doing?.I don’t think negative blogs help anything. All the dam kids are on something, don’t sleep on it!!

Coach90

June 3rd, 2010
8:15 am

Hey this kid needed some help. Was their some things he should have done on his on (YES). Was their some things we could have done as parents & coaches,teachers to help (yes) also. Someone call the kid an idiot. Good for you all your kids are ideal.kids I geuss everyone on this post has great kids never made bad choces (black or white). I have been bless so far to say so. But I tell you I have been around long enough to know my kids could be next. You guys with the great kids think about that!

Caring Parent 2010

September 20th, 2010
5:38 pm

Regarding mm27 comment on Daniel Peek rapping (correct spelling would be wrapping) his Jeep around a tree after prom a few years ago. It has been 3 years and 4 months and the pain that is still so fresh in so many lives due to the loss of Daniel Peek, you could not even fathom. So before you start typing your comments in the future you may want to get your facts straight. Daniel Peek was upset about many things on the night of May 5th, 2007, which was NOT the night of prom and he had been hurt and crushed by many people he was suppose to be able to look up to. I personally know that his family loved him soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo very much and wanted nothing but the best for him. His funeral and what took place after was a testimony to what a loving, caring, and christian person he was. In the future, before you make comments about someone who is not here to defend himelf, you may want to stop and ASK YOURSELF, am I perfect?, do bad things unfortuantely happen to good people who are human and make a mistake at a low point in their life and are in the wrong place at the wrong time around people who were not true friends???????, do stories tend to get over-exaggerated??????????????. I think if you ask yourself those questions then you will come to the conclusion that you may want to think long and hard before you slander another person.

mikki

July 25th, 2011
9:56 am

Sorry but “rotting in prison” is not appropriate punishment for the crime committed. The fact is they did NOT murder anyone. I also would like to say that I wish that people would stop insinuating that eff ups on teens’ part is always the parent’s fault. If a kid knows the law, he has a choice whether to follow or break. That does not involve his parents at all. Yes, some parents have been a bad influence, but more often than not, it boils down to choices. After all, if you commit a crime, you go to jail not your parents. Let’s start put the blame where it really belongs and hold children,teens, and adults responsible for what they do.

@caringparent2010: Thank you!! and Thank you so very much Coach90. You speak the truth!!! That needed to be said.