Comments on: Westlake replaces Milton atop AAAAA boys rankings

By: Savannah912

Savannah912 — Sat, 20 Feb 2010 18:57:30 +0000

Groves Rebels is the best team in AAAAA in Georgia. They need to be #1 on the poll but all South Georgia get over look.

By: Eagle 1

Eagle 1 — Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:39:50 +0000

Lol!!!! Getem Eagle 2

By: BBALL for Life

BBALL for Life — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:12:21 +0000

Walton needs to win but the game is at Wheeler and Wheeler out played them last game going inside out and hitting a lot of big shots from the corner. If Walton can efficiently press Wheeler and convert turnovers they have a chance. Harrow outside shot is back 6 3’s in a row last game but Wheeler had 3 guys on him laast game when Walton was in their half court offense. So I would say it is a tossup and I am glad Walton has it live on the web because last year I couldn’t get in.

By: BBALL for Life

BBALL for Life — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:06:36 +0000

From what I heard they have canceled the game due to the weather.

By: Devil Lover

Devil Lover — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:46:59 +0000

So who is going to win the wheeler vs walton game if they play it tonight?

By: BBALL for Life

BBALL for Life — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:30:45 +0000

Pope is a good team playing in the best division in Georgia high school basketball. Garrett Brown can play with anyone in the state. They have good height in their front line and they would probably be the 2nd best team in 7-AAAAA.

By: knights fan

knights fan — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:54:44 +0000

You failed to mention that we played Milton twice in one week and last Saturday went into their arena and beat them. Centennial has ONE region loss, the one loss to Milton. We beat Wheeler, Walton, et al. A lot of our non region losses were in tournaments out of state. You can’t really compare those teams. Centennial is playing a lot better as a team this year with several players contributing. AAAAA is THE toughest region in high school basketball with a lot of great teams. Tournament time should be fun!

By: Bball fan

Bball fan — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:40:54 +0000

Looks like Dutchtown girls coach Angela Williams should send the Griffin coach some roses this weekend. Thanks to Griffin’s win over Forest Park last night, Dutchtown is the regular season Region 4-AAAA champions and with that, they have secured a state tournament bid. The regular season region champion gets a bye into the region tournament semifinals. The region tournament starts Monday (if all this snow holds off) Monday at Mount Zion High in Jonesboro.

Saw Westlake last night, they are good. I would be surprised if they didn’t reach the Final Four and possible championship game. Big, physical team with some good guard play. They have a good mixture of young, and veteran players. Was told by an assistant coach that the JV is just as tall as the varsity. The new school Langston Hughes did cut some into the talent pool, but Westlake should continue to be a force for some more years.

By: Crazy Hoops

Crazy Hoops — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:34:47 +0000

Eagle 2: Great question.
Common state titles in 1963, 1965, 1977 and 2 more state runner-ups after 1977. That is stretching it. And to answer your question, yes there have been some teams that have started out 24-0. One that comes to mind is the 33-0 Westlake team that won state with AJC Player of the Year A.J. Moye (spell). Only halfway good team that LaGrange has beaten is Lithia Springs, and they are a weak link in the whole scope of Atlanta area basketball. They have never advanced out the second round against the better teams in the area.
Haven’t seen LaGrange this season, but have seen a lot of high school basketball. There hasn’t been a team (even all the great SW Macon, Wheeler, Norcross, Decatur and so on) teams in the state that has had 15 players that were good enough that all could be “designated starters”. You usually have about 6-7 that could be starters and the rest are role players.

By: 3 Straight

3 Straight — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:05:11 +0000

HEY REGION 6 YOU DIDN’T MEANTION POPE WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT GOOD REGION 6 TEAMS. I GUESS YOU DIDTN’T HEAR ABOUT THE GAME LAST NIGHT. POPE LEAD MOST OF THE GAME OVER WHEELER. WHEELER HAD TO OVER COME A 9 POINT 4QTR DEFICIT TO SQUEAK OUT A OT VICTORY BY ONLY 3 PTS 65-62. BY THE WAY MASSEY HAS POPE RANKED 31ST IN THE STATE IN GA’S 5A CLASS.

BY THE WAY NORCROSS NOW HAS A 19 GAME WINNING STREAK.

By: Region 6

Region 6 — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 14:44:32 +0000

3 Straight – you seem desperate to prove Norcross is #1. Your just lucky your region doesn’t include any other top 10 or even top 20 teams.
Centennial has beat Milton at their place, beat Wheeler by 3, and lost to Westlake by one and had a chance to win it. What are your significant in-state wins?
You got calls in your favor at home in both of the showcases. If Walton or Campbell had your schedule, they’d have a 17 game win streak too. I’m just not convinced yet. You had your chance against Milton and lost. Congratulations on beating up on Mill Creek, Collins Hill, and Peachree Ridge.

By: Taylor Wooten

Taylor Wooten — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:25:47 +0000

Always enjoy the Basketball “poll” from the Gay Capital of the U.S.

By: 3 Straight

3 Straight — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:18:03 +0000

Here is some interesting numbers for defense. This number measures the team’s ability to prevent its opponent from scoring and compares them nationally agianst all teams.
Norcross, 328, Milton 328, Westlake 786, Wheeler 3,199, Centennial 3,201
These numbers compare the teams against teams in Ga’s 5A class only:
Milton 1. Norcross 3, Westlake 7, Wheeler 18, Centennial 19

By: eagle 2

eagle 2 — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 08:53:44 +0000

slalom1, have you seen columbia’s schedule? you actually had the nerve to make this statement

“Granted, Columbia has played the tougher schedule. However, don’t know if they have played a team as deep and physical as the 2010 Grangers”

Are you serious, they have actually just only played 8 teams that have been ranked in the top 10 in the country at some point in the year. I’m not saying the grangers arent good but they can not be as good or as deep as oak hill, or gonzaga, or maybe Waukegan, wait lets try Montrose, heck i doubt they are better than Arlington Country Day. As far as who columbia has played. I doubt there is anyone in the state who has played a tougher schedule or more depth as you say….I’ll tell you what we’ll see you in the final four if you make it.

here’s the better question are you sure the grangers have played a team as tough as columbia?

By: W/E

W/E — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:36:20 +0000

If Wheeler beats Walton tomorrow they shouldn’t drop.

By: Todd Holcomb

Todd Holcomb — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:22:20 +0000

“I respect your opinions, so if they are equal then why can’t Norcross have their one week of fame?”

There’s always next week! … Plus, Norcross has already had their three years of fame. : )

I hear Wheeler escaped Pope in overtime tonight. Is that reason enough to have Norcross jump the ‘Cats? Maybe so.

slalom1: What are you doing on the basketball blog? I’m eager to see the Grangers at state.

By: slalom1

slalom1 — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 22:21:51 +0000

FINALLY saw the Grangers basketball team against Carver. Granted, Columbia has played the tougher schedule. However, don’t know if they have played a team as deep and physical as the 2010 Grangers. Coach Pauly has the luxury of 15 players who are all capable of being designated as starters. There was an era when LaGrange was known more as a basketball school than a football school. i.e. State champs in 1963, 1965, 1977 and 2 more state runner-ups after 1977. All in the state’s largest classification. Someone needs to help me out on this, but I believe the 2010 Grangers are the first in the modern era to start out the season 24-0. They are good. Very good especially on defense.

By: 3 Straight

3 Straight — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:07:24 +0000

I respect your opinions, so if they are equal then why can’t Norcross have their one week of fame?

By: Bufordwolf

Bufordwolf — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 03:12:24 +0000

Your exactly right. They both will meet at GAC next week in region and you already know what will happen.
If anyone attended the game last friday you wouldve seen the luckiest shots you will see in high school basketball, i mean some no look shots.

Im just saying, They shouldnt have went from what number 6? to number 2 is all im saying.

Buford will take it all in the long run, theres no team in the state thats does things quite like they do.

By: Todd Holcomb

Todd Holcomb — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 01:32:35 +0000

”TODD WHY DO YOU THINK NORCROSS IS ONLY NO.5 WHEN THE REST OF POLLSTERS THINK THEY ARE BETTER COMPARED TO THE 5A CLASS?”

Honest difference of opinion, I guess. As I’ve said, it’s almost impossible to separate the top 5 teams. It’s hard to accept being #5 when you could easily be #1. I don’t have a problem w/ the coaches putting Norcross #1. But I’ll add this: I do think our poll is better than the coaches. They’ve got Groves and Newton ahead of Milton and Centennial. They’ve Columbia at #3 in AAA.

By: wlhs4life

wlhs4life — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:25:24 +0000

i love westlake basketball so much a became a male cheerleader so i can get n the games for free

By: bigpitts

bigpitts — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 21:48:19 +0000

hold up wait just a second lets not forget the BLUE STORM of WILKINSON COUNTY. Im talking trash to all of GEORGIA dont step in my county if you aint got no game, cause we got plenty. Oh yea look out state cause the STORM is coming

By: hammertoes

hammertoes — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:37:23 +0000

Todd, why did Rabuns girls drop to 10 from 2nd? their record after last nights win is 20-1. They are much better than Fannin who you have at 6th. Just curious.

By: bballfan

bballfan — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:22:09 +0000

Bufordwolf, get your facts straight. Buford won the first meeting with GAC by 7, not 14. Polls mean nothing and will always reflect “what have you done lately”. The 2 teams will likely meet again next week and the winner will be ranked higher. The only thing that really matters, though is that final ranking.

By: Crazy Hoops

Crazy Hoops — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:20:35 +0000

Me thinks some of these teams with these “pretty” and “attractive” records against weak and inferior non-region and region competition will be exposed come state playoffs in a couple weeks.

Unfortunately in Class AAAAA boys teams from Region 1-4 will make their way to the Final Four the easy way. Let Region 5-8 lightweights Campbell, Meadowcreek, McEachern and a few others play in that bracket and they will also coast to the Final Four. Says here that the trend continues in AAAAA that the state champion will come from Region 5-8. The BIG exception is Westlake. They are the only legit contender in the South brackets because they have the three main qualities in talent, coaching and strong schedule to compete with team in the North bracket.

Newton County: Heard some good things about your team from a reliable coach. He thinks team plays well together and doesn’t beat themselves in most cases. Unfortunably, the Rams have not played anyone of quality to really make a fair assessment. I wouldn’t be surprise if you all made the Final Four, because much like the weak non-region and region schedule you play, you have a weak state playoff bracket. If things were to stay the same, he is your road to the Gwinnett Arena – Tift County, Newnan and Savannah. Enjoy the ride.

By: Ike Boogie

Ike Boogie — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:35:40 +0000

Put on the floor with any team, when they are allowed to run, they can out up 90-100 ponits easy, with the 8 man rotation remind you of runnin rebels (UNLV)….

By: Ike Boogie

Ike Boogie — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:29:29 +0000

Hey guys somebody sleepin on Newton County Rams 22-1

By: Bufordwolf

Bufordwolf — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:01:01 +0000

Buford has been beating teams by 25 points and up! lost to SW dekalb by what 8? wouldve been closer but they had to foul and the end of the game, and one loss takes us from the number one sport to the number 3?? Vidalia plays no one whatsoever deep south ga teams are a little overatted.

By: Hoops Fan

Hoops Fan — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:58:22 +0000

3 Straight wins against over matched teams by 35 points just says they are not playing their reserves early enough. Norcross should have played better in state teams though when they did they lost. Thomas Jefferson if it is the team from Brooklyn is a Quality win. I don’t know there other out of state opponents. 7AAAAA is a weak division and I will be interest if they have to meet more then 1 of the 6AAAAA teams in the playoff if they can play a good team more the once every month. Seen Norcross play on the web. They have talent and our well coached but it is hard to tell if that translates against another as talanted team. 6AAAAA teams must come to play every night because the division is so stacked. If any team should be complaining it is Campbell which has a lot of young talent and well coached team but does not crack the top 10 list.

By: Bufordwolf

Bufordwolf — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:56:36 +0000

GAC girls or Vidalia girls shouldnt be ranked higher than Buford girls. Buford Girls and GAC have the same record in their region. Both teams lost to each other once, GAC lost at their place by 14 and Buford lost at hoime by 4 in overtime playing one of the worst games they could!!

You all know Buford is going to take it home again, Im just confused on how GAC could possibly be ranked higher than Buford, are you kidding me!

Come out in about a week or so to watch them smash the lady spartans at their place for region! The rankings will change then, thats ofr sure!

Oh yea and norcross girls should be number 1!

By: 3 Straight

3 Straight — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 13:07:51 +0000

CORRECTIONS
GA COACHEDS’ NO.1, GA SPORTSWRITERS NO.1, MASSEY NO.2, MAXPREP NO.3 (FOR THE ENTIRE STATE) AND THEN AJC NO.5………..WHY?

LAST NIGHT GAME-WON BY 50 PTS
PREVIOUS 3 GAMES-WON BY AN AVG 35 PTS

By: 3 Straight

3 Straight — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:56:48 +0000

HEY TODD. HERE IS NORCROSS’ UPDATED RANKINGS;

GA COACHES’ NO.1, GA SPORTSWRITERS NO.1, MAXPREP NO.3, MASSEY NO.4, AJC NO.5.

TODD WHY DO YOU THINK NORCROSS IS ONLY NO.5 WHEN THE REST OF POLLSTERS THINK THEY ARE BETTER COMPARED TO THE 5A CLASS?

By: westlake

westlake — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:30:38 +0000

Truth4Westlake
i can tell thats u chad johnson lol

By: westlake

westlake — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:25:21 +0000

i hate these ranking i go to westlake n these dudes work hard lol they got 6 a.m practice afternoon practice they work hard to beat those sorry teams they play u cant call them sorry cause out of all the schools n that area that they play suck no those teams dont really suck westlake makes good teams look bad lol n yall act like westlake plays a whole bunch of langston hughes schools westlake is number one but for real i hate the ranking lol they dont mean nothing cause everyone play dif teams

By: Chamblee Ladies

Chamblee Ladies — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:52:02 +0000

Should be in the top ten. 17-3 lost two games to #2 Southwest Dekalb and lost to AAAAA Stephenson come on show a little respect.

By: Fin

Fin — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 03:21:02 +0000

Wheeler beats Campbell by 4

By: Fin

Fin — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:56:45 +0000

I thought Wheeler had at least a share of the Number 1 spot in region 6(5)A.

By: Dylan

Dylan — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:21:47 +0000

#3 Northwest Whitfield: 68
#1 Rome: 58
Final.

Who’s will take the #1 spot in AAAA next week, Todd? Northwest Whitfield or Southwest DeKalb?

GO LADY BRUINS!!

By: braNew2

braNew2 — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:57:49 +0000

HOW ABOUT THE GIRLS AAAAA #1 REDAN RAIDERS. THESE YOUNG LADIES HAVE WON 49 STRAIGHT GAMES AND DO NOT SEEM TO BE SLOWIN DO NO TIME SOON.

By: Eagles1

Eagles1 — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:24:35 +0000

Todd,
Those games dont count he same.

By: Eagles1

Eagles1 — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:06:40 +0000

Columbia lost their games in out of state Tournaments. DUH….

By: Eagle 1

Eagle 1 — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:17:30 +0000

@Todd i was just counting the remainder of games too. Those are teams we beat already.Lol

By: Todd Holcomb

Todd Holcomb — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:10:30 +0000

“What more does wheeler have to do to move up? they keep winning and winning against top rated talent yet they get nothing to show for it. Great win by Centennial ill give them that, but when Wheeler beat Milton, nothing happened. Right now there is not a team playing better than wheeler”

We can’t rank teams strictly based on how they’re playing ‘’right now.’’ It’s how they’ve played all season that matters most. If you rank based on ‘’right now,’’ then when did ‘’right now” start? Is it last week? Is it a month ago? Is it when Wheeler’s winning streak began? Should we not consider that Centennial not only beat Milton, but also beat Wheeler? Only a fool would not respect Wheeler, but as other posters noted, you can’t ignore early losses.

“I realize you go by record but strenght of schedule should matter.”

Bruin: If you look at the W-L records throughout the rankings, it’s clear that we do consider strength of schedule. We’ve got a 5-loss team at No. 1 ahead of an undefeated team in one classification. But what is so strong about Region 8-AAAA’s schedule (girls)? This region didn’t shine in the state playoffs last year. So how do you figure the strength of schedule is all that good? You’ll have to tell us what we’re missing.

By: W/E

W/E — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:44:47 +0000

But it would likely lead to a Wheeler- Milton Semifinal. Although if the tournament format stays the same as last year and the two years before that which it should, the semis are on Friday instead of Thursday and the finals on Saturday.

By: W/E

W/E — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 16:40:24 +0000

Region 6 you have the playoff formatting wrong. It’s not a 1-10 seeding process. The region is divided into two subregions. A- which is Wheeler, Walton, Campbell, Pope, and Lassiter, Then B- Milton, Centennial, Kell, Roswell, and Alpharetta. This is how the region tourny would shape up

The tournament shapes like this. For the sake of less confusion I’m numbering some of the games.
Play-in round
6A 5 seed vs. 6B 4 seed (Game 1)
6B 5 seed vs. 6A 4 seed (Game 2)

qtrs.-@ higher seeds gym

6A 1 seed vs winner of Game 1 (Game 3)
6A 2 seed vs 6B 3 seed (Game 4)
6B 1 seed vs winner of Game 2 (Game 5)
6B 2 seed vs. 6A 3 seed (Game 6)

Semis (teams in state tourney) @Campbell

Winner of Game 3 vs. Winner of Game 6
Winner of Game 4 vs. Winner of Game 5

You can figure the seeding from there.

So the result would be the 3rd team of Wheeler/Walton/Campbell playing Milton in Fulton county in a game to knock one out of the state playoffs. Wheeler has a 1-game lead on both at the moment

By: Chris Jackson

Chris Jackson — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:57:19 +0000

Grove’s lost was to Meadowcreek.

By: Dan

Dan — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:51:26 +0000

Not after #3 NW Whitfield defeats #1 Rome tonight in girls 4A

By: v dog fan

v dog fan — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:18:40 +0000

proud of the vidalia lndians girls team for defening their number one ranking and beating laney in overtime last friday night lndians # 1!!!!!!!

By: Truth4Westlake

Truth4Westlake — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:15:18 +0000

Wheeler doesnt deserve to move up becasue rankings are based on a few things. A few of those things are wins and losses and how hot are you at the time. Granted you have had a great Jannuary, but you had a devastating December becasue of Mr. Kendrick and Milton has played a tougher schedule to date. Of course we took care of Centennial early so thats why we got the nod at #1. The beauty is everything will be worked out in a few weeks. Westlake has won the state in AAA, and AAAA. what make you think we wont in AAAAA. First year in AAAAA we went to the final four last year we cant do nothing but get better!!!!

By: Decatur 4 Life

Decatur 4 Life — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:22:19 +0000

Todd Holcomb

Can’t wait for Saturday’s article, you’re right both of Columbia’s team are major state contenders. Our girls were the only team that played Carrollton tough last season and it took double overtime to get rid of them in the elite 8. Our boys lost a tough one to S. Atlanta in the final four last season playing a little short handed but redemption is going to be sweet for both teams this season

By: Decatur 4 Life

Decatur 4 Life — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:05:22 +0000

Truth4Westlake

“Tread softly”? Man please, do you honestly think we’re concerned about S. Atlanta? No way, once again better check our track record. We didn’t just start this winning stuff if you had already done your research you’d see we’ve been to the final four the last five years, winning the championship twice in that stretch. I hope to see S. Atlanta in Macon this year so they can get what’s coming to them but to be honest with you it won’t happen. They don’t have the same kind of team and they haven’t played anybody, all those factors lead to an early playoff loss.
Mark my words!

By: Region 6

Region 6 — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:54:16 +0000

Fin, Wheeler can win their side of the region with wins this week. That will secure a 2 seed unless Centennial loses a game they shouldn’t. Milton will be a 3 seed in that case. So the likely scenario has:
1. Centennial
2. Wheeler
3. Milton
4. Campbell or Walton

That sets up a Wheeler/Milton matchup in the Final 4 which would be next Thursday at Campbell HS. Good luck getting in.

By: Devil Lover

Devil Lover — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:57:05 +0000

Here is the lastest objective poll for Massey national rankings for the top six 5A teams in GA:
Milton 47, Norcross 127, Westlake 173, Meadowcreek 301, Centennial 478, Walton 774

By: Fin

Fin — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 06:07:09 +0000

I think Wheeler has a lot to prove and they are going to be out for revenge versus Campbell (On a side note, I wonder why no other school has tried to get Coach Gwinn of Campbell to their school. He is a great coach and he does a lot with very little). Wheeler should beat Pope soundly which sets up a great showdown against Walton for the season finale. In order for Wheeler to win the region, does Milton have to lose another game or what’s the deal?

By: W/E

W/E — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:30:36 +0000

I agree with Region 6. Wheeler’s on a roll right now, but I’d wait for this week to end before arguing for them to be moved up. If Wheeler wins out this week then I feel they are worthy of Top-3 consideration, but winning out isn’t a guarantee with Campbell tomorrow, Pope Thursday (who’s better than their 3 wins in region suggest), and the capper against Walton Friday.

By: Bruin 777

Bruin 777 — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 03:25:12 +0000

Again, 8 AAAA girls overlooked. Salem, Clarke, Madison, Loganville all can beat Forest Park, Bainbridge and Statesboro. I realize you go by record but strenght of schedule should matter.

By: Region 6

Region 6 — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:42:10 +0000

Wheelerfan, we are ranked in the top 5? How much respect do you want? Lost to Campbell and Centennial and beat Milton when they were missing a starter. Still ranked up there high and could go higher with wins this week vs Campbell, Pope, and Walton.

By: wheelerfan

wheelerfan — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:30:49 +0000

What more does wheeler have to do to move up? they keep winning and winning against top rated talent yet they get nothing to show for it. Great win by Centennial ill give them that, but when Wheeler beat Milton, nothing happened.

Right now there is not a team playing better than wheeler, maybe norcross, but i feel as if neither of us are being represented properly

By: Todd Holcomb

Todd Holcomb — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:31:30 +0000

“what does it take for Hillgrove to drop out of the rankings? They lost to Woodland.”

I’m asking myself the same, but Hillgrove remains in first place of a region with 20-something teams (or close to it). Sure seems like the people’s poll is telling me that the Hillgrove/McEachern is the overrated triangle of Cobb County.

“Columbia is 20-5 Todd!!!”

Aren’t schools allowed to play just 25 regular-season games? Columbia has three games this week. What’s the deal?

By: pembrook burrows III

pembrook burrows III — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 00:16:47 +0000

what does it take for Hillgrove to drop out of the rankings? They lost to Woodland.

By: waltonfan40

waltonfan40 — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:43:12 +0000

Pope-Walton webcast tomorrow night at http://www.playballyall.com

By: Devil Lover

Devil Lover — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:08:54 +0000

join me on a good blog norcrosshighbasketball.blogspot and of course .com.

By: Eagle 1

Eagle 1 — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 22:05:38 +0000

Columbia is 20-5 Todd!!!

By: indianman

indianman — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:23:01 +0000

what thos vidalia indians girl no.1 in the state way to go girls

By: Todd Holcomb

Todd Holcomb — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:15:32 +0000

G-dub: I have no say in which games are covered and how we cover them, but as far as coverage of Gwinnett vs. DeKalb, I don’t see the same pattern you are seeing. I’ve done stories on Norcross, GAC and Wesleyan, but also Tucker and Miller Grove. This week, I believe Michael Carvell is going to the Redan girls game. Mike Tierney wrote a nice feature on Redan’s Alisha Andrews earlier this season. Chip Saye is going to Columbia on Friday for a story on the success of the girls and boys programs.

justthefacts: I didn’t mean to imply that controversy somehow excuses Westlake’s loss to Morrow. I was just pointing out that it was controversial. Probably should not have mentioned it. I generally ignore ‘excuses’ for losing, such as injuries. Also, it’s tricky to factor in ”who’s playing the best right now,” because then you have to define when ”right now” started. Was it Jan. 1? Jan. 15? It’s hard to ignore who’s hot and who’s not, but it also invites a lot of subjective judgment.

By: Coach

Coach — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 21:15:11 +0000

Todd, you have Rabun County girls at 18-2. They are 19-1.

By: Eagle 1

Eagle 1 — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:58:13 +0000

Well Well Well…I see my boyz are here!!Thanks guys i dont have to say anything!!lol
Aye Todd: We got your back,please make it easier on yourslf and direct all of the Columbia Question to us. We will be delighted to answer them for you(AJC). No disrespect to anyone,but know one is on our level right now.
Wins & losses dosent win championships!!
Preperation does!!!!!!
Takin your team around the World to educate and prepare the students physically and mentally for March. And no we havent forgoten about S.Atlanta,Lagrange,Monroe,Elbert,Westover etc…they are all good,talented and well coached.
So are the Columbia Eagles!!!! We have seen it all this year! Thanks Coach Dr.McCrary for giving our kids a Chance to compete in Ga AAA come Tourney time!!! Lol

By: Brandon Dozier

Brandon Dozier — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:00:35 +0000

Meadowcreek should be #1….Go Mustangs!!

By: Devil Lover

Devil Lover — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:33:35 +0000

My understanding for region 7 is the coaches vote each year on where they will play the regional tournament. Also I think the no1 (and maybe no2 as well) team for the regular season gets a bye to the regional semis so this would ensure an automatic trip to the state tournament for them as well.

By: G-dub

G-dub — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:08:46 +0000

Like I said before, coverage is very weak. Saturday night you had defending 5A champ and still undefeated Redan girls against 2 time defending 4A champ SWD. Great game but if I had not witnessed it for myself I would not know who won because ajc coverage is so weak. If it were Parkview vs Brookwood I’m sure we would have had enough by now. You guys need to stop being so obvious or learn good basketball is not only played on the north side.

By: Devil Lover

Devil Lover — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:06:38 +0000

Here is the lastest objective poll, Maxprep national, rankings for the top six 5A teams in GA:
Milton – 38, Norcross – 141, Westlake – 169, Wheeler – 198, Centennial 396, Walton 1,160

By: WheelerFan

WheelerFan — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:05:39 +0000

sadly region 6 rotates the region tourney semis and finals, reagrdless of gym size..last year was nice cause alpharetta had a great gym, but the year before sprayberry hosted and maybe 500 people got to see wheeler-centennial final that year, what a crap gym sprayberry has

By: W/E

W/E — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:34:50 +0000

Todd the qtrs. in the region 6AAAAA tourney aren’t played at Campbell, they’re played at the higher-seeded team’s gym. It’s the semis onward that are played at Campbell. So whoever gets the 3-seed out of the a subregion will be going to Milton to play that game.

By: Al Beeski

Al Beeski — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:30:25 +0000

Nice job doing these rankings Todd, as I’m pretty sure you haven’t seen most teams South of Macon. First, everyone needs to take a chill pill because you will soon find out how good your region/team is against the rest of the state. And one tidbit of info, you might find helpful concerning 1-AAA, is that Westover has not lost a game with their top player (Onochie Ochie) as he missed about 1 month after a serious fall in the opening minutes against Monroe during their first meeting. All three of Westover’s losses were without the services of Ochie.As we all know injuries are part of the game, but don’t overlook Westover if completely healthy. But I can’t wait for the playoffs to start as it should be exciting.

By: W/E

W/E — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:29:16 +0000

the next tiebreaker is subregion record then overall record I think.

By: Jon Koncak

Jon Koncak — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:12:24 +0000

No respect for the ECI Lady Dawgs…only undefeated A team in rankings and they are #8? No one has even played them close this year.

By: Hoops Fan

Hoops Fan — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:52:33 +0000

Does anyone know what happens if both Campbell and Walton end up 8-5 in region 6A, Who gets the 2 seed. They split the series.

By: Eagle2

Eagle2 — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:50:08 +0000

Yeah T4W it is gonna be tough for you all up in AAAAA and i wish you all well. Your guys are good and I would like to see them win it all (the trash talk is fun and games). hopefully all of them region six teams beat up on each other too bad and cancel each other out. You better believe columbia is not overlooking Monroe, SA, Elbert, or Westover. all of them are good teams but what i can say is, i seriously doubt they are any tougher than any of the teams we have faced on a national level this year.

By: Truth4Westlake

Truth4Westlake — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:40:17 +0000

Eagle2 i hope we dont fizzle out this year to. Yea everytime I see that kid Leslie on ESPN i remember being in Gwinnett. You had a great team then i thought the 2nd best in the state at that time. LOL. The funny thing is South Atlanta has some new pieces who are very good. That no one knows about. But when it comes to 5AAAAA basketball its going to take preparation hard work, and dedication to win in this classfication. Columbia better be ready for SOuth Atlanta, dont forget Monroe either!!!!

By: THS

THS — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 17:00:57 +0000

Way to go Thomasville! Ranked in the top ten for boys & girls basketball!

By: W/E

W/E — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:08:15 +0000

Here’s how region 6 works cobb hoops:
Here’s how the region tournament works
Here’s how the region is split:

(6B) that has Milton, Centennial, Alpharetta, Kell, and Roswell. The other side (6A) is Campbell, Wheeler, Walton, Pope, and Lassiter.

The tournament shapes like this. For the sake of less confusion I’m numbering some of the games.
Play-in round
6A 5 seed vs. 6B 4 seed (Game 1)
6B 5 seed vs. 6A 4 seed (Game 2)

1st round

6A 1 seed vs winner of Game 1 (Game 3)
6A 2 seed vs 6B 3 seed (Game 4)
6B 1 seed vs winner of Game 2 (Game 5)
6B 2 seed vs. 6A 3 seed (Game 6)

Semis (teams in state tourney)

Winner of Game 3 vs. Winner of Game 6
Winner of Game 4 vs. Winner of Game 5

You can figure the seeding from there.

So the result would be the 3rd team of Wheeler/Walton/Campbell playing either Centennial or Milton in Fulton county in a game to knock one out of the state playoffs

By: justthefacts

justthefacts — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:36:17 +0000

I agree that any one of those top five teams, in 5A, can stake a claim to the top spot. However, your analysis is a little flawed. Westlake recently lost to a weak Morrow team. Whether it was a controversial loss or not the number 1 team shouldn’t have put themselves in that situation.
Two weeks ago Centennial lost to a TC Williams team that lost to Thomas Jefferson the night before. Norcross beat Thomas Jefferson.
Milton probably has had the toughest schedule but is 1-3 in the last four games against quality teams.
Wheeler lost to a Scott County team that Norcross beat. Right now Wheeler is playing better then the teams in front of them
Norcross is 17-0 since losing to Milton by 4. They are 16-0 since Adrian Hubbard left the team. They are playing better without him because their remaing pieces fit together better.
Since the start of the holiday break;
Norcross is 16-0 and has a +25 point differential.
Wheeler is 11-2 with a +19 point differential.
Westlake is 14-2 with a +18 point differential.
Milton is 12-4 with a +13 point differential.
Centennial is 13-5 with a +3 point differential.
Right now that is how I would have them rated but there isn’t one of them I would rule out as the posssible state champion.

By: Eagle2

Eagle2 — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:49:07 +0000

Truth4Westlake….lol….unless they caught the hoy spirit when they got reenergized spiritually i dont think they would want you selling wolf tickets for them. Last year was definitely their year and they siezed the moment. Congrats to them but they dont stand a chance either…as for westlake…good job this season i hope history doesnt repeat itself and yall fizzle out as in years past…as a fan im sure you remember what happened when yall ran into us a couple of years ago when yall were undefeated and ranked #1.

By: Todd Holcomb

Todd Holcomb — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:48:47 +0000

Also, Seth Coleman writes a good notebook on Georgia high school football on Fridays. So help him out if you’ve got a good story that’s not getting any press.

Meanwhile, the AJC has stories coming this week on Redan’s girls for Wednesday, Rockdale County’s boys on Friday and Columbia’s boys/girls (both are major state contenders) for Saturday.

By: Todd Holcomb

Todd Holcomb — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:47:05 +0000

“I know GAC is AA, but you should go there this week (home Tuesday & Friday) and you might see the best boys team in GA and probably one of the best if not the best basketball gyms in all of GA.’’

Probably one of the best gyms in Georgia? I’d like to see one better! ..

Here’s a story I did on GAC last week:
http://www.ajc.com/sports/high-school/martin-picks-up-where-291350.html

“How do you have Hillgrove ahead of Lithia Springs when they went to Hillgrove and beat them?”

jw: That’s a good question. Head-to-head isn’t everything, and Lithia Springs has lost a couple of games to AAA opponents. But having said that, I think I should review that call because Lithia Springs has lost some close ones, and I probably punished them too much for losing to AAAAA South Cobb. I think I expected so much of Hillgrove this season that I might not be looking at their results objectively. (Yes, once or twice a year, I struggle with objectivity just like everybody else.) Good point.

“Saturday night at Milton it looked as though the Eagles were going to run Centennial out of the building after the first quarter leading 21-12.”

I didn’t realize Milton was up 9 in that game. Interesting. I wonder if it’s partly the fatigue of playing in that region and that schedule overall. It’s hard for Milton or Centennial or any of those schools to be at the top of their game every night. That’s why the region tournament will be interesting – especially the potential Milton-Walton game in the quarterfinals. Or what if it’s Campbell-Milton in the QF in Campbell’s gym? Good stuff.

By: Truth4Westlake

Truth4Westlake — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:42:21 +0000

Columbia tread softly, that first lost South Atlanta took in three years really reenergized the whole spirit of the team. South Atlanta coming for those decatur boys!!!!!!

By: Truth4Westlake

Truth4Westlake — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:38:33 +0000

Very interesting the top 5, even though im a true Westlake fan I know that the top 5 teams are only seperated by a small margin. Im interseted in the state playoffs and very interested to see how Milton bounces back now that no one is intimitated by them!!!

By: Region 6

Region 6 — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:32:08 +0000

Congratulations to Centennial on back to back very solid performances vs Milton. I saw both games and either team could’ve won that first meeting on Tuesday. That’s one of the best hs games I’ve seen this year between 2 great teams. The final margin of 7 was not at all indicitive of the game.
Saturday night at Milton it looked as though the Eagles were going to run Centennial out of the building after the first quarter leading 21-12. The Knights controlled everything from that point forward tying the game and the half and dominating the 2nd half.
Wheeler wins big in California and is on a roll. Campbell knocks off Walton and the 6A is now wide open for the taking depending on this week.
Are they really going to allow Campbell to host the best region tournament in the courntry so 1,000 people can see it? What are they thinking????????

By: Eagle2

Eagle2 — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:20:58 +0000

“In AAA boys, How do you have Lagrange which is 23-0 behind Columbia thats 17-5. Anyone else thinks this is odd.”

Todd Holcomb don’t worry I got your back on this one

gemini103,
Columbia has played 11 teams that has been either nationally or regionally ranked and the 5 games they lost came to teams that at some point were ranked by numerous polls in the top ten in the country and they were all loses by no more than 5 pts with the exception of yates and whitney young. I’m not one for moral victories but they were in the game until the end in all of those losses. with that said and from looking at Lagrange’s schedule I’m not saying they are not good but I dont think they would have stood a chance with the schedule Columbia has played. So the record means nothing. Check the strength of schedule. outside of region play Columbia has arguably the toughest schedule in the state and thats why they are number one.

Eagle1 where you at?

By: jethomps

jethomps — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:20:55 +0000

The team with most wins and no loses is Trinity Christain School’s lady Cruaders from Dublin GA at 28-0. They are one of smallest schools in GISA’s AAA.

By: Decatur 4 Life

Decatur 4 Life — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:20:32 +0000

And yes thanks Tood for letting me grill “gemini103″ on that one, you know we can break it down for him with no problem. Winning and being highly ranked in the state is nothing new to us, u better do your research.

By: Wildcat00

Wildcat00 — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:18:59 +0000

I have one thing to say about the Class A boys. The State better watch for Lanier County. They have a group of boys that have played together for many years and have gelled. They should be heavy contenders for the State Championship this year.

By: Decatur 4 Life

Decatur 4 Life — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:13:41 +0000

gemini103

No it’s not that odd, Columbia plays a national schedule. If we only had GA opponents we’d be undefeated as well.

By: HSHoopsFan

HSHoopsFan — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:13:12 +0000

#1 team in Georgia… GAC. They beat Centennial and their only loss is to Melrose Memphis (a top 20 US team). 4 of the 5 starters played last year with the 1 addition being Malcom Brogdan who many believe is one of the top juniors in the state.

By: jw

jw — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:49:17 +0000

How do you have Hillgrove ahead of Lithia Springs when they went to Hillgrove and beat them?

By: GetCarter

GetCarter — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:03:43 +0000

Norcross didn’t lose their post player “due to injury”.

By: Devil Lover

Devil Lover — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:51:43 +0000

HEY WHEELERFAN….I CARE.

By: allcrimson

allcrimson — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:50:00 +0000

Northside girls are overlooked in AAAA and just like we want it.

By: Devil Lover

Devil Lover — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:47:55 +0000

Todd, since norcross lost its post player to injury and none of these players were in the starting rotation last year plus two players are transfers, I think using the second half results will be a much better perdictor of Norcross’ future capabilities than was december 09.

By: NoLion

NoLion — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:09:24 +0000

None of this matters until march 10th.