Throughout the season, we hear that the only rankings that matter are the final rankings. Then when the final rankings come out, we find that those are the most controversial of all.
These are the ones that live in history. So I hope I haven’t messed them up too badly.
Now, a look back at the finals. If I were a head coach, or a fan of a particular school that’s playing for a championship, I might feel differently, but as a fan of high school football in general who lives within easy driving distance of the Georgia Dome, it’s pretty nice having the finals in one spot.
Congrats to Wilcox County and Sandy Creek for winning their first state titles. Before the playoffs, I claimed that only SWD and Griffin could win AAAA. That wasn’t smart. On the other hand, I’m proud that I stuck w/ Wilcox in the rankings when others didn’t after the Pats lost two games. One of my favorite posts: “Can you guys explain to me how a two-loss Wilcox Co. team gets the nod … ? … Man you guys haven’t got a clue!”
We also stuck w/ Camden County w/ two losses. That was a weekly source of contention, but I will add that many Poll Talk bloggers came to my defense on that one. Rule of thumb for ranking teams: When you’re not sure, trust history. Camden is the most improved state champion in the big class from Week One to Week 15 since perhaps Brookwood in 1996.
We never ruled out Buford. When the playoffs started, I picked Buford. When the draw was changed and Buford was seeded to travel to Fitz, I picked Fitz. When game time came, I picked Buford again. Class AA was a lot of fun this year, for a chance, because Buford was beatable. But the Wolves ruled in the end.
Gainesville-Peach was one of the best finals I’ve seen. (So was Wilcox-Savannah Christian.) The defense in the AAA final was intense and vicious on both sides. Good high school football.
Finally, who would be your statewide player of the year? Da’Rick? Ogletree? Sims? Nick Marshall? Ean Days? Mason?
Class AAAAA
1. Camden County (13-2)
2. Northside-Warner Robins (13-2)
3. Lowndes (10-2)
4. Newnan (13-1)
5. Grayson (12-1)
6. Colquitt County (11-3)
7. North Gwinnett (12-1)
8. Stephenson (11-1)
9. Peachtree Ridge (10-3)
10. Lassiter (12-1)
Class AAAA
1. Sandy Creek (14-1)
2. Griffin (13-1)
3. Clarke Central (12-3)
4. Apalachee (12-1)
5. Southwest DeKalb (10-2)
6. Thomas County Central (11-2)
7. Rockdale County (10-4)
8. Marist (9-3)
9. Westside-Macon (11-2)
10. Hiram (11-1)
Class AAA
1. Peach County (15-0)
2. Gainesville (14-1)
3. St. Pius (12-1)
4. Flowery Branch (10-4)
5. Carver-Columbus (11-2)
6. Eastside (11-3)
7. Cairo (9-4)
8. North Hall (9-3)
9. Baldwin (9-3)
10. Jackson (12-1)
Class AA
1.Buford (14-1)
2. Calhoun (14-1)
3. Fitzgerald (13-1)
4. Lovett (12-2)
5. Jefferson County (12-1)
6. Charlton County (12-1)
7. Callaway (10-3)
8. Westminster (8-4)
9. Jefferson (11-1)
10. Thomasville (8-4)
Class A
1. Wilcox County (13-2)
2. Savannah Christian (14-1)
3. Wesleyan (12-1)
4. Lincoln County (11-2)
5. Clinch County (10-4)
6. Darlington (9-5)
7. Greenville (11-1)
8. Bowdon (10-2)
9. Twiggs County (11-2)
10. Holy Innocents’ (11-2)
310 comments Add your comment
Old Gold
December 13th, 2009
3:40 pm
My Jackets let me down again… oh well, a great season/decade none the less.
hs football fan
December 13th, 2009
3:40 pm
how in the world does Lowndes finish above Newnan when they went out early??
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
December 13th, 2009
3:56 pm
whoever that QB at Wilcox is the best player in the state. unbelievable talent. Richt should camp out at his door.
lhsviking
December 13th, 2009
3:59 pm
because lowndes played camden and lost by 3. while newnan played northside and lost by 5. Northside got beat by Camden 31-3. Why wouldnt lowndes be ranked above newnan?
SportsFan31313
December 13th, 2009
4:24 pm
Greetings everyone,
I’ve gotten beat up on my predictions. I lost Class A AA and AAAA predictions. I would have never believe that Sandy Creek would have beaten a Clarke Central. I went with History and their legendary Coach. Congrats goes out to a Sandy Creek football team. I lost on the Buford game as well. I said that this could be a toss up but I went with Calhoun. I thought that Calhoun would have edged this one out. but that Buford Offensive showed me while there are who they are, and have made a believer out of me. And Wilcox County also surprised me. Savannah Christian has three State titles under their belt and have been a team of contention for a while. I really didn’t know anything about Wilcox County and was not convince since their two losses. But that Quarterback is the truth. He is definitely a Division 1 prospect in my book.. Great jon to those teams, and their coaches.
What I did get right was Class AAA Peach County. I knew that Gainesville had a pretty good program but I also know that Peach County was better.
Last, let me say to ENR, Reeze, Northside Observer, and to all of the North Georgia non believers. I said all along with Todd Holcomb that this Camden County football team was good regardless of the two losses that they acquired at the beginning of the season. First, a lot of bloggers complained why Camden County was ranked in the top ten in Class AAAAA with two losses when there were North Georgia Football Teams that was more deserving that should be there. I explained then that those two losses were to Nationally ranked teams at the time Grayson, and Hoover. Nevertheless, I said that Camden County will beat a lot of these schools in the post season. I did pick Lowndes to win it all this year, but after Camden County beat Lowndes, in round two of the post season playoffs, there was doubt that I knew that Camden County would win the State Title again. Since camden County had proven to the bloggers that they had a right to be here, it then went from rankings to them being in a weak Region 3-AAAAA Region. Now I argued that point, that in this decade, Camden County had beaten every a contender in every Region in Class AAAAA. In addition, I stated that it didn’t make any difference what Region Camden County played in, the out come would have still been the same. Week after week, Coach Jeff Herron, and the Camden County executed well and have beaten every team they came up against, all the way to showing a very good Northside Warner Robins Football Team that they were the better team, and why they were the defending Class AAAAA State Champions, who by the way happened to be from the “WEAK” Region 3-AAAAA. There no need to use any excuses because I really believe that the critics have actually ran out of them.
Great Job Camden County, and now maybe the North Georgia critics and bloggers will invoke their Miranda Rights. ( Where You Have A Right To Remain Silent)
All jokes aside, this has been a great 2009 football season and congratulations goes out from me to all of the teams that were in the finals. (Win or Lost) You all deserve to be there and you played your hearts out. I look forward to another 2-10 Football when this blog will again be cluttered up with facts laughter, argumentative stats, the criticizing of Todd Holcomb, and he bashing of SportsFan31313. Its been a great year. I wish everyone here on the AJC Blogs, Todd Holcomb, Michael Carvell, AJC Sports, EagleNationsRising, Reeze, Slaloam1, SouthGaRules, Mistermak, Topper, Wolverine2Blazer, BlackandGold24, NTH Trojans, Sgt Chris, Hollabackk, WildcatFan, other faithful bloggers whom I have’nt mentioned here on this blog, and last but not least, my friend here on this blog, AVikingFan AKA HomeFieldAdvantage a very Merry Christmas, and a Safe & Properous Holiday Season.
SportsFan31313
December 13th, 2009
4:28 pm
Sorry about the typos…..I’m sure you understand what I am saying….
camdencat79
December 13th, 2009
4:29 pm
GREAT JOB WILDCATS, YOU SHOWED EVERYONE WHY YOUR THE BEST 5-AAAAA TEAM IN THE STATE. SEE YOU ALL NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GREAT JOB COACH HERRON AND STAFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
South Georgia Republican
December 13th, 2009
4:51 pm
I haven’t watch a GHSA game all year (I have sons in GISA) but saw all 5 of the finals. Wilcox County-Savannah Christian and Peach County-Gainesville were 2 of the best high school games I have ever witnessed.
Nick Marshall at Wilcox is the best HS QB I have ever seen- UGA needs to get after him NOW- what a talent. I agree with Bank Walker.
And the gutsiest man in GA has to be the Gainesville Coach. Even though he gambled and failed, he did the right thing going for the win at the end. Some of those co-champions from 2 years ago should take a lesson from him. Real men don’t play for the tie.
Shawn
December 13th, 2009
4:52 pm
A one loss Greenville whose only loss came to the champion should be ranked higher than #7. Congrats Wilcox County, I was very impressed with Marshall.
SportsFan31313
December 13th, 2009
4:53 pm
South Georgia Republican,
I agree with you on that Wilcox county Quarterback. This young man is the truth.
Coffee Fan
December 13th, 2009
4:57 pm
Agree with the Texas Ranger, Wilcox QB is #1. Coach Johnson should camp out.
Vikings should be #3
Colquitt should be #4…………………..forget the Won- Lost, look at what they did in play-off and compare.
Merry Chrismas to all for great year, God Bless USA.
Todd Holcomb
December 13th, 2009
4:58 pm
SportsFan31313: Savannah Christian has never won a GHSA state title in football but won 7 football state titles in GISA.
re: Wilcox/Marshall: One reason that we kept Wilcox in the rankings at mid-season despite 2 losses was the fact that Marshall missed one of the losses w/ an injury. Also, Marshall is not a player that ”came out of nowhere.” He had a great sophomore season and was GHSF Daily’s first-team all-state QB in preseason for Class A. Glad that he got the chance to show himself on a stage like this one Saturday.
re: Newnan/Lowndes: I’d have no trouble w/ anyone who ranked Newnan at #3. There’s a case for it. But rounds advanced in the playoffs are not as important as how you deal with the draw you are given. Newnan didn’t have to play at Camden County in the second round. Newnan also didn’t play in a region w/ Northside and Colquitt County. Lowndes played like the #3 team in the state in every game, and routed two teams below it in the rankings (Colquitt, PeaRidge).
Rocky
December 13th, 2009
5:04 pm
I think that Mattox and Pierce for Clarke Central showed that they are the real deal. Both only jr.s I’m looking forward to seeing them take it to the next level next year.
o-me
December 13th, 2009
5:05 pm
Marshall was the talk of town today at Church with Football lovers. He made his case Todd.
Todd Holcomb
December 13th, 2009
5:09 pm
re: Greenville – Fair point, Shawn, but Greenville did not beat a team that this season that I’d rank in the top 15. There’s no real evidence that Greenville is better than Treutlen (8-3), a team that I didn’t rank. There are at least a dozen teams that would’ve gone 11-1 if they were in Greenville’s region. But Greenville won convincingly in every game but two, so I do think the Patriots deserve a Top 10 ranking.
re: Colquitt County – I gave serious thought to having Colquitt at No. 4. But Grayson beat Camden County, and while I know that was August, it still counts for something. Then Newnan beat Grayson. But for those who want to put Colquitt #4, that’s cool w/ me. Maybe the AP poll will do that, as they more typically follow the literal finish of the playoff draws.
ATL Dawg
December 13th, 2009
5:11 pm
Lowndes SUCKS!! Bunch of THUGS and wannabe GANGSTA’S!!
Todd Holcomb
December 13th, 2009
5:13 pm
re: Nick Marshall – Remember that it’s not the MVP of the finals or even the playoffs. It’s the player of the YEAR. I know he had a great season, but, for example, Blake Sims had a better (Class AAA) defense chasing him all over the Dome on Saturday. Da’Rick Rogers was limited in the final, but his post-season overall was bordering on ridiculous. I’m not arguing against Marshall, just lending some perspective.
Coffee Fan
December 13th, 2009
5:18 pm
What about Ean Day from Camden Co? One he!! of a player also.
Bravissimo
December 13th, 2009
5:30 pm
As a native of Savannah,it was great to fianlly see a team from there get all the way to the title game.
I graduated in 71 and still cant see why no teams from there make it anywhere in the playoffs. I know all about The Camden argument, even when I was in school the winner of region 3 would have to face Valdosta, every year…same result..lose.
Why is it that regions that have decent
basketball progs dont have anything in football?
All the teams in Sav should be playing in AAA, even with all the travel probs.
JASon
December 13th, 2009
5:31 pm
Gainesville’s coach is dumb.
WILDCATS93
December 13th, 2009
5:42 pm
CONGRATS TO THEM MIGHTY WILDCATS OF CAMDEN……………………..AFTER A SLOW START YALL GOT THE JOB DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Observer
December 13th, 2009
5:44 pm
Alec Ogletree from Newnan is the most talented player in the state by far. He just didn’t have the team around him to secure a spot in the Stat Finals.
BIGBlue1
December 13th, 2009
5:47 pm
Todd,
AAAA – are you for real, you don’t rank the last 8 teams in the top 10?????
Thanks for letting us know how political your rankings really are, no respect for the blue and white, you ranked every team in the elite 8 except North Clayton???? Hiram and Marist, why, demographics?????? I think so, yea we lost 52-13 to Clarke Central so what,with no facilities, we dont have a booster club, no sleds or shoots, no field house, no community support, no rich alumni, no fancy computer programs to break down opponents and all of the other stuff to be successful, a shared stadium….the only reason you probably let SWD in the rankings is because of Buck, at least there’s some respect for him, Dekalb only pays for 5 coaches with the rest done by athletes and a few parents.
It’s obvious from the previous statements and now this that the real issue goes beyond football. We beat two good teams in Bainbridge and Brunswick, were they championship material? We’ll never know, but they were good teams, if they weren’t they would have been at home and not in the playoffs.
Really, any team in the African – American community has to sturggle to get accepted in the “club”, SWD I guess is the exception.
I’m so glad that Sandy Creek won the championship, because you made the statement that only SWD or Griffin could win the title, so, then as now you’re wrong and quite honestly, it’s a slap in the face to our kids and our community.
Thanks Todd, we’ll get back to work Jan. 5 2010, and I’m going to post the final AAAA rankings in the locker room and weight room for people like Jr. LB Amarlo Hurrera – 6/2 215, 149 tackles, 4.5 to see, who has offers from Maryland, Ole Miss and other D-1 programs, Jack Ndem who also runs a 4.5, So. Nose Guard Dion Traylor, So. QB Dennis Johnson, Fr. RB Ladarius Maddox – and other outsanding athletes to see and realize that the Blue and White gets no respect, that just like in the “hood” we’ve gotta be three times as good and we can’t make any mistakes and most of all don’t listen to anyone about what you can and can’t do, in the end it really doesn’t matter….and it does matter.
I can’t guarantee we’ll win state, that would of course be stupid, but I can guarantee this, we’ll be back , faster, stronger, quicker, meaner and more fierce than the last time we stepped on the field.
Todd Holcomb
December 13th, 2009
6:14 pm
BIGBlue1: Sorry you feel that way, but there is no bias. What Coach Hackney and his staff have achieved at North Clayton doesn’t get enough credit, I agree. I don’t think that the AP or coaches’ polls have ever ranked North Clayton higher than the AJC has, including the final Top 10 poll of 2008, when the AJC ranked NC #9 while the others left NC out. This season, Class AAAA is almost impossible to rank from about No. 7 down. But in the end, I don’t think North Clayton had a good a win as Marist beating Tucker 32-7, and Marist lost in overtime to a team (Apalachee) that beat Clarke Central. Further, it’s hard to ignore 52-13. Then there’s the loss to Dutchtown. I know, it was a meaningless game, but I just think a Top 10 team wins that game. I hope these rankings do inspire the 2010 team.
wildcat fan
December 13th, 2009
6:18 pm
Ean Days without a doubt, who has as much of an impact of every aspect of the game than DAYS. Offense he’s the leading rusher on the team (1300) with so many players that CAMDEN plays and he plays only about 2 and a half quarters of football. And he is a pass catching back. Defense, he makes plays from side line to side line, And did you see the impact he had on defense with all the tackles and the quarterback sack in the Championship game. And special teams 3 returns for TD’s when they are constantly kicking the ball away from him. OGLETREE(does not touch the ball enough) would be a good candiate, but being a reciever he does not have the impact on the game as does DAYS. And he does not have the impact on SPECIAL TEAMS as DAYS. GT do yourselves some justice and offer DAYS. He is just a pure football player. You have good backs, good recievers and good QB’s, but DAYS is a AWESOME football player. Its a big difference. If he doesn’t get it, then its a joke. The young man impacts a game more than any player this year, remeber all 3 aspects of the game. If GT doesn’t offer I think he would play in the Big TEN. This will not be the last you heard of DAYS.
Treutlen Fan
December 13th, 2009
6:33 pm
Hey Todd…speaking of Treutlen, why not rank them, ECI or as bad as I hate to say it Johnson Co. instead of Holy Innocents? I mean the Vikings didn’t lose to the State Champs but by 3 points and had to score a TD late in the 4th qtr to do it. I mean Holy Innocents? Both teams they played that were worth their weight in salt beat them! Heck put Treutlen, ECI or Johnson Co. in that region and they would run uo the scores on those weak sisters too!
CAMDENCOAST
December 13th, 2009
6:35 pm
Great game wildcats!!!!!!! Northside has a great team and great tradition. It is a shame all the smack their
fans talked all year about how superier they are because of their region? I feel really bad for the Northside players who turned around and saw their “loyal” fans leaving in the third quarter! I have never seen fans leave that quickly in a state championship game…you would have stayed if the score had been different. I have no doubt that the Eagles will be on top next year as well in AAAA, I just hope you fans will be there till the end. Go Wildcats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I never saw a group of players grow so much in one season, it is a tribrute to you, our great coaches, and our community. Thanks for a terrific season, and for shutting up some of the Northside folks.
parttimer
December 13th, 2009
6:48 pm
You put Eastside(11-3) at #6 and Jackson(12-1), who kicked the crap out of Eastside at #10. What an idiot. I guess you would have still put FLA ahead of BAMA if you’d had a vote. No wonder I stopped getting the AJC 10 years ago. Y’all are pathetic.
nomn
December 13th, 2009
6:54 pm
Congrats Camden, from this Grayson fan!
CAMDENCOAST
December 13th, 2009
6:55 pm
Class act on the Northside website!!! Very nice congratulating Camden article, also I might add your team showed sportsmanship after them game! I have no doubt you will be back in the championship game next year .
randy prosen
December 13th, 2009
6:59 pm
Ean Days MVP. Look at his stats. Polls don’t matter, thats why they have football fields. Great year for Camden High.
EagleNationRising
December 13th, 2009
7:04 pm
Northside fanbase feels confident because our program has played and beaten the best. The only rankings that matter are who wins the state playoffs. That is what is great about a playoff system. However is the last team standing is what matters most.
Hey, we get ranked second. It really does not matter. We are very, very proud of our team and program. If you asked any Northside or Camden County fan if either expected the Eagles or the Wildcats to be in the State Championship, only the most dilusional would have called either program being in the Dome this year. We lost so many skill position players.
I am very happy that we are viewed as one of the best in this state. Now, we have to look forward to next season. We have to hope that we have enough pieces returning and enough newcomers arriving to make another run. My guess is we will. Time will tell.
A big congratulations to Camden County, Sandy Creek, Peach County, Buford, and Wilcox County. All great champions. Enjoy the off-season. We will see you all next season. For the “soft” posters on this site, I will be back to talk trash. If you think we have had some run-ins with Lowndes County posters, wait until a certain Thomasville poster names Jaybo attmepts to make Thomas County Central a program the caliber of Northside or Warner Robins. He hates numbers and I am going to throw some serious numbers at the above average program that thinks they are big time.
The last time Houston County schools played in AAAA (4 seasons) a Warner Robins school played in the state championship in every season and wo 3 out of 4. In Warner Robins we FULLY expect a Northside versus Warner Robins state championship game. Watch!
Region 6AAAA Fan
December 13th, 2009
7:06 pm
Congrats to all the 2009 State Champions…The Gainesville coach showed a lot of heart going for two instead of kicking the tying extra point, but i think he should allowed his boys to play for the win in OT, they fought too hard to lose in that manner…I agree with a lot of the other bloggers here, the Wilcox County QB is pretty talented and Coach Richt should look at trying to recruit him…And how does the Tigers of Tucker not get ranked in the top 10 in AAAA? The 3 losses they suffered this year came at the hands of SWD, Marist and the State Champion Sandy Creek Fighting Patriots, I think they deserve at least a #10 rank…But it is what it is
Yo
December 13th, 2009
7:23 pm
Done a little thinking about the Camden/Lowndes matches this decade since Herron and McPherson have been coaching and I suddenly realized that Camden hasn’t been to our house.
5 times we have played each other and Camden won the 3 at their house in Camden, but lost the 2 on neutral terf (the Dome). No time have they been to the Concrete Palace. The three won at Camden’s house was by a total of a 17 points margin while the two won by Lowndes at the Dome was by a total of 40 points (margin).
By the way, did Northside get Peachtree Ridged in the Dome? All it took was two first round upper cuts in the span of 2 minutes and the refs might as well have called that fight.
CAMDENCOAST
December 13th, 2009
7:26 pm
YO, you are correct, and we don’t want to play Lowndes at home. We are content playing the game in Camden.
Rankings????
December 13th, 2009
7:32 pm
31-3 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HS Football Fan
December 13th, 2009
7:32 pm
I agree Region 6AAAA Fan. The sports writers at the AJC has never liked Tucker. Last year, on our way to the dome, we read every article they published about the tigers, and it was all negative and disheartening to say the least. Unbelievable!!!!! We even discussed it as a team. I truly believe that is “one” of the reasons they fought so hard for the win. Well thats water under the bridge right now.
CONGRATS SANDY CREEK !!!!!!!!!
EHS Eagle
December 13th, 2009
7:39 pm
Parttimer – Eastside kicked the crap out of Jackson. I wonder why Eastside is 6th. We played Peach a better game in the Final Four than St Pius or Gainesville. Just ask Peach.
Rhino
December 13th, 2009
7:40 pm
I agree with the Gainesville coach’s decision. As I recall there is no overtime in the final game. If the game ends in a tie the teams share the championship. Stupid rule so the Coach had to make that decision.
Chris
December 13th, 2009
7:45 pm
EagleNationRising – It will be very interesting to see how Houston County/Warner Robins Football will be next fall given the opening of Veterans High and the shakeup in Perry, HoCo, Northside & Warner Robins student populations (if they can even settle it before next August).
Todd Holcomb
December 13th, 2009
7:48 pm
“You put Eastside(11-3) at #6 and Jackson(12-1), who kicked the crap out of Eastside at #10. What an idiot. I guess you would have still put FLA ahead of BAMA if you’d had a vote. No wonder I stopped getting the AJC 10 years ago. Y’all are pathetic.”
I should start a contest for how I should reply to this, but I’ll keep it simple: Eastside beat Jackson 14-0.
Jeremyoo7
December 13th, 2009
7:52 pm
Da’Rick The FREAK Rogers!!!! Player of the Year Georgia!!! Hands down if anyone else holds a candle to him I have not seen them!!! Hope you boys at the AJC don’t mess this one up?
Northside Observer
December 13th, 2009
7:53 pm
Sportsfan 31313: All the chatting about football will soon come to end. Needless to say, I am going to miss all regular bloggers I have come to respect.. All the attacks and counter attacks are just in fun. NSWR had a great season and I feel honored that they played in 1AAAAA the last two years. As I told you once before I am from the low-country coastal area of Georgia so I have love for that area. I can yell for Camden County, Bradwell, Brunswich, and Chatham County Schools with pride. I settled in the great city of Warner Robins after my USMC days. My kids went to both Northside and Houston County High.
I wish much success for your beloved Bradwell football program. The region #1 seed would have been yours for years to come if Camden had gone to 1AAAAA. lol.
Here is a secret few people know. The QB (Marshall) from Wilcox County came within a whisker of being at NSWR. His parent told me that during a meeting when my youngest son was playing on a travel basketball team. WOW!
Great chatting with you throughout the season!
AVikingFan
December 13th, 2009
8:09 pm
Rhino, after Roswell and Perachtree Ridge tied for the state AAAAA title in 2006, the rules were changed and there are no more co-champions. Ttile games have overtimes just like any other game now. And for that reason I think the Gainesville coach was wrong.
Pete on the Coast
December 13th, 2009
8:10 pm
We are “stuck with Camden County” (a 2 loss team)? Well, one of those early losses was to an Alabama power, so the Cats have only 1 loss in state (and that one in week one). As you point out, CCHS improved from week to week, and demolished their opponents in the semi finals and state championship games. Embrace them, they deserve it!
Pete on the Coast
December 13th, 2009
8:15 pm
Sorry about reading the column too quickly, and thought it said “we are stuck with ” instead of “we stuck with” Camden County. Point remains about the 2 losses.
EagleNationRising
December 13th, 2009
8:26 pm
Northside Observer: If that kid from Wilcox County was an Eagle, everyone on this site would hate me and Northside might have had an opportunity to be National Champions. I tell you what, we laid an egg that no Eagle fan will ever forget last night. However, I will take a developing Briar Van Brunt, Shaquille O’Neil and I hear this running back that is sitting out is a beast! Our receivers should continue to develop. I love our underclass linebackers. It sounds like an interesting year ahead in Region 1-AAAA.
Has anyone heard who is going to get the Valdosta High School job? Have they already hired someone or set up any interviews? I was just interested to hear.
Wolfman
December 13th, 2009
8:27 pm
What about the Buford Wolves? Second time this decade with a 3 peat. Not much talk about them this year maybe because this was a rebuilding year. But look at what they did. They beat 3 undefeated teams in the playoffs two on the road and the last one in the dome. Way to go boys. And congrats to all the teams that made it to the dome. And a special congrats to all the state champs.
EagleNationRising
December 13th, 2009
8:29 pm
Rhino: I agree with AVikingFan. Gainesville had all of the momentum and really had the advantages in their favor in an overtime format. I did not see any reason to put it all on the line at that moment. Of course, it is easy to play Monday Morning Quarerback.
EagleNationRising
December 13th, 2009
8:31 pm
With all due respect to Buford, I am very interested in who is going to be the next head football coach at Valdosta, the winningest program in the history of high school football. I also heard that Martin Luther King has a job opening. Is there any word on the new coach there? Is that rumor true (MLK looking for a new head coach)?
Post-Punk Revival
December 13th, 2009
8:39 pm
I don’t feel these rankings are controversial at all. I have only the following minor disagreements:
Class AAAAA: I would bump Colquitt above Grayson. The Packers finished the season really strong, whereas Grayson sputtered from the first round on.
Class AAAA: Apalachee is a bit high. They had a great season, but their schedule was a rather weak one.
Class A: Twiggs Co. over Greenville and Bowdon.
To those people who think that Greenville should be ranked higher in Class A: It is a fantastic story and all, but Region 4-A was pathetic this year. All nine of the other teams in the poll would be undefeated too with Greenville’s schedule.
Todd Holcomb
December 13th, 2009
8:42 pm
“Sorry about reading the column too quickly, and thought it said “we are stuck with ” instead of “we stuck with” Camden County. Point remains about the 2 losses.”
That’s funny! … No, we are not ‘’stuck” with Camden. Georgia football is proud of Camden County. I’d like to see a Camden-Hoover rematch.
re: MLK – I spoke w/ Coach Jarvis. He had not resigned officially but was making plans to coach elsewhere.
SOOHSO
December 13th, 2009
8:43 pm
Urban Myer at UF has the inside track on Nick Marshall of Wilcox Co.
CJ Dawg
December 13th, 2009
8:52 pm
Ean Days is the player of the year. The kid carried camden into the championship while also doing double duty as middle linebacker. Other kids may go farther and make more noise, on the HS leverl, it can’t get any better. The QB from Wilcox is a huge talent though.
VOW
December 13th, 2009
9:09 pm
YO- check the score out from the Camden- Lowndes game in 2002- surprise, Cats won 20-12 on October 4th, 2002 in the concrete palace!
wildcat fan
December 13th, 2009
9:25 pm
YO,,, check the records we played at THE CONCRETE PLACE in 02 and won.
farmer jim
December 13th, 2009
9:42 pm
A point not seen here, Camden County switched QBs with about 3 games left in the regular season and tweeked the defense to make the Wildcats an awesome power. They gave up an average of 5 points/game in the playoffs. Even with the initial QB who quit the team when told that he would no longer start, Camden lost two games by 3 points each prior to region and had a real shot at winning each. Last year, they graduated 35 seniors with 21 receiving scholarships. Ony 3-4 starters were left on offense and defense. So, they had a lot to overcome enroute to a back to back 5A championship. To tell the truth, I never thought that the team would accomplish what the ‘08 team did. To all teams that made the playoffs, congrats, you had a good year. Farmer Jim
Dome Days
December 13th, 2009
9:54 pm
Da’Rick the freak – get used to dissapointment now because you won’t be playing in the Dome again unless you go pro!
yo
December 13th, 2009
9:54 pm
I stand corrected. Camden did win one at Lowndes in McPherson’s
first year of bringing the Wing T (a shock to the system of Lowndes at the time)to Lowndes. Now come on back over state champs.
cc Indian pride
December 13th, 2009
10:16 pm
Chris Milton Qb Charlton County Watch out for him he had over 2700 passin yards with 36 tds an 1200 rushin with 18 tds an is only a jr…. this guy gotta be all state.. best qb i seen all year.. an nick marshal will be going head 2 head with him i the same region next year.. lookin foward 2 this game..
Justafan
December 13th, 2009
10:17 pm
EagleNation—I heared Coach Hatcher was up for the Valdosta job.
Will Camden be in 1AAAAA next year?
Flo-Ri-Duh!
December 13th, 2009
10:26 pm
UGA is recruiting Marshall the QB at Wilcox County and he will get an offer soon.
NHS Eagles Man
December 13th, 2009
10:26 pm
There is NO OVERTIME in the finals. Gainesville and Peach would have been co-champions if they had tied.
Made the trip from Birmingham
December 13th, 2009
10:26 pm
I made the trip from Birmingham to see Peach Co. because my bro-in-law helps coach. That had to be one of the best games I have seen in quite a while. I live and work extremely close to Hoover H.S. which had to come back and beat Camden earlier in the year. I’ve seen them play some good games but the AAA game Saturday afternoon was awesome.
David v. Goliath is probably over used but Gainsville was loaded with talent and rightfully so… they have a great team. It goes to show, put pressure on Simms and he’ll make a mistake, don’t and he’ll kill you. Looked too many times to Jones though and one of the smallest guys w/ one of the biggest hearts made a great read and an even better play. Nice play Luke!
That’s one you hate to see anyone lose… especially like that. Congrats Peach Co. from Birmingham, AL.
Fred
December 13th, 2009
10:29 pm
Congratulations Camden County! I though from the beginning y’all would be there in the end, right with us!
Wouldn’t that have been something, two teams open at the Dome and finish there together. Oh well, it was not to be.
I would put Lowdes at 5 and move Newnan and Grayson up. They both went deeper in the playoffs and yes I know about the region 1 vs 3 playoff debate but you have you play the cards or games as they are dealt to you. If you are the champions, you find a way. Grayson may have appeared to sputter but the Grayson-Newnan game was one of the best I’ve have ever seen. I have seen other posters say that game possibly wore Newnan down so much it made it an easier game for NSWR.
EagleNationRising
December 13th, 2009
10:29 pm
Justafan: Wow! Chris Hatcher, the former Georgia Southern/Valdosta State head coach is actually going to Valdosta High School. Is that real or just Valdosta HS Boosters attempting to excite the fanbase. Hatcher is a Middle Georgia native from Macon. He would be a big time hire.
Camden County is not going to play in Region 1AAAAA. The regions have already been realigned by the GHSA. Camden County is going to be playing in Region 3AAAAA.
GAIL
December 13th, 2009
10:30 pm
Observer…you wrote Alec Ogletree from Newnan is the most talented player in the state by far. He just didn’t have the team around him to secure a spot in the Stat Finals.
Really…please enlighten me with further explaination. So because of the team one person did not make it to dome? So if they had made it would you be saying they were there because on one person? Maybe there’s a chance they lost the semi to a better team that night.
Big Dawg
December 13th, 2009
10:33 pm
In my opinion, the most overrated school in the last five years has been Stephenson H.S. out of Dekalb County. Year in and year out, Stephenson produces many D-1 players. Yet, Stephenson has problems beating teams from South Georgia who can match them talent and speed wise. The No. 8 ranking in Class AAAAA is too high.
Big Dawg
December 13th, 2009
10:37 pm
If the QB from Wilcox County is not selected as a Super 11, the selection committee is on that stuff. Even my wife was amazed at his play making abilities. This kid is the best QB in the State…period!!!!
Fred
December 13th, 2009
10:40 pm
Regard the question of overtime, the GHSA rules do not address overtime in the playoff games but do mention it earlier in the rules about games in general. http://www.ghsa.net/football-rules-procedures “J. The GHSA Overtime Procedure will be used whenever two schools from the same classification are tied at the end of regulation play. ” Others have mentioned on the playoff blog that Gainsville was having issues with the kicking game. Perhaps the coach felt they could keep the momentum from the score going.
NHS Eagles Man
December 13th, 2009
10:46 pm
We’ve had several “co-champions” in the last couple of years because of ties. Peachtree Ridge and Roswell, along with Dublin and Charlton County in 2006 for example.
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December 13th, 2009
10:47 pm
Wish Coffee would get Valdosta’s old Coach Rick T. CHS coaches are all home boys learning on the job, not much to look forward to.
Mary Welch
December 13th, 2009
10:49 pm
Nick Marshall – hands down – Player of the year. Easily the best player in the state at any level.
stop all yall whinning
December 13th, 2009
10:51 pm
yo;
understand with only 5 teams in 1aaaaa that lowndes is in desperate need to fill out its schedule but why would you want to play someone who you’ll probably have to face in the 2nd yet again, my advice stop scheduling those 2a & 3a schools at home and hit the road against powerhouse programs both in and out of state. because as the last two years have shown the state and nation that lowndes is a power only if they have the home cooking of the concrete palace (and before you go there – yes except for maybe 2 or 3 of the other schools in 3aaaaa the region in all 2a & 3a schools but it seems to work for camden b/c other than mandated region play camden looks for tough opponents to test themselves)
mistermak
December 13th, 2009
10:59 pm
Todd Holcomb— this years game between Hoover and Camden was the 2nd game of a home and away series. Camden beat hoover in Alabama last year 44-16. So this years game was the rematch!
Flo-Ri-Duh!
December 13th, 2009
11:09 pm
Kirby Smart is going to work Bama for a raise and will probably stay put for another year or two at which time he will be a hot commodity as a head coach.
columbia Blue
December 13th, 2009
11:18 pm
OK Lets look at the facts—Camden who plays in a region that everyone in the State of Georgia gives them hell for accomplished:
BEATING 3 YES 3 YES 3 REGION 1 AAAAA TEAMS– REGION 1 AAAAA TALK TRASH NOW
2009 REGION 1 AAAAA CHAMPIONS AND STATE CHAMPIONS
THOSE ARE THE FACTS–AND WE CANNOT WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR
Mark
December 13th, 2009
11:24 pm
Nice to see Lassiter in your final Top 10…they deserve to be there. Hutson Mason should be in the discussion of top player – the numbers he has put up the past two season have been nothing short of incredible.
Ocmulgee Swamper
December 13th, 2009
11:29 pm
Nick Marshall will play basketball. You can bank on it.
o-me
December 13th, 2009
11:31 pm
K Smart has already said two weeks ago that he will only leaving for a Head Job. He will get one shortly. Richt is looking at TCU D-C = Rumors on Yahoo.com
Bawney Fwank
December 13th, 2009
11:36 pm
2008 Pre-season BCS National Champions UGA Bulldawgs Numba 39 in 2009!
Bank Walker, Texas Ranger
December 13th, 2009
11:49 pm
Coach at Gainesville had no choice, his kicker stinks. His odds of making a two point were about the same as his kickers percentage. From what I recall they went for two on 2 or 3 occasions in the semi-finals. If he could have been co-champions then shame on him. He got out coached two weeks in a row.
Marshall is the best player in the state. Rogers did nothing against Buford and Sims is an athlete without a position.
eye of the tiger
December 14th, 2009
12:00 am
tucker should have made the final rankings. . .
and mack brown is still the best player in the state not that ace ogletree guy
VBeckham
December 14th, 2009
12:01 am
Thanks for the kind words about Camden. I’m glad someone else realizes the difference between Camden in game 1 and Camden in game 15. This has been a truly remarkable coaching job by Coach Herron and his staff. From a team with no”superstars”, came a team with a lot of “stars”. A couple of guys need to be singled out including our QB Ruiz. He came from nowhere to starting QB of the AAAAA state champs. He has a great arm and a lot of poise for someone with very little experience. Can’t say enough about Days and Murphy who have been there from day 1. MVP of the playoffs has to be Aundre Johnson. He saved his best games for the 5-game playoff run. Hardly anyone knows their names, but the team would have gone nowhere w/o the play of the O-line. Probably our best unit to date. The entire defense went literally from “worst ‘ to “first” during the season. Not our fastest, not our biggest, not our strongest, just our best. Congrats to Northside for a great 2-year run in AAAAA. Your pick of Lowndes as #3 was right on target. Thanks for staying with Camden even after the two early losses. To be in position to win those games playing with the youth and inexperience we were, says more about a “tradition” than talent. Tradition can win a lot of games over the years. Just ask Valdosta. Thx again for a great season of reporting high school football for us all. Vance Beckham. Go Cats!!!!!
Bodog
December 14th, 2009
12:55 am
Big Blue 1……..It’s so easy to misplace the anger you harbor others WHO have more than your school. Why don’t you get up, and solve this problem, get some annswers, start a fund dirve, organize a school support group ….have fund raisers, seek the advice of school leaders…..talk to the school district….get the to approach political help thru state of georgia….GET UP, AND DO SOMETHING POSITIVE, AND CHANGE THE SYSTEM IN THE RIGHT VENUE TO NELP YOU SCHOOL……..DON’T SIT, AND PLAY THE BLAME GAME….YOU HAVE A CHOICE!!!!!!!
GOBIGBLUE
December 14th, 2009
1:32 am
Equally sad was the way the CAMDEN fans and parents acted at the Dome. The football team took care of business but the parents embarrassed the team….
pity poor monroe area
December 14th, 2009
1:42 am
BigBlue1: Trying to reduce your team’s perceived problems to a black/white issue went out of style 45 years ago. This sort of loser’s limp diminishes the accomplishments of a dedicated group of young men and neutralizes any legitimate talking points you might have had. Get over yourself. Quickly.
CATS Biggest Fan
December 14th, 2009
4:53 am
What did the CAMDEN fans and parents do at the Dome to embarrass the team? I was not able to attend the Game this year but I watched it on TV. Please respond to the question. I lived in Camden County for over twenty years and have never known them to embarrass the team before.
Paddy
December 14th, 2009
5:45 am
Bodog….well put. The blame game from big blue 1 is a frequent refrain. No one listens to folks like him. They are talkers not doers. That” poor me ” line has not cut it in decades.
camden fan
December 14th, 2009
6:20 am
GOBIGBLUE : You must be talking about the way our fans cheered and applauded for your team when the game was over and they accepted the 2nd place trophy since there was maybe 100 NSWR fans left when the game was over. Once again those kids deserved better from their fan base but did not get it and I do not buy the excuse of the weather, that was those seniors last game those kids deserve better and I hope our fan base would never do that. Don’t judge the fan base on a few clowns that were carrying on, every school and fan base has them.
Football Fan #3
December 14th, 2009
6:49 am
NEW REGION FOR CAMDEN – REGION 3C (MOST TEAMS ARE 6A AND CLOSE PROXIMITY IN MILES from Camden High School)
Orange Park High School – 6A – 44.2 miles
Sandlewood High School – 6A – 44.6 miles
Forest High School – 6A – 38.5 miles
Mandarin High School – 6A – 36.1 miles
Bradwell Institute High School – 4A – 72.7 miles
All are similar size schools (except Bradwell is just short of 5A Size)
The problem is that all schools are located in Jacksonville, except Bradwell. How Camden finishes in this new region would be their placement in the GHSA tourney.
Even schools in Daytona Beach and St. Augustine are closer than 117 miles. This is closer than most Region 1 schools.
So all the complainers that Camden should not be in a weak region 3, if the GHSA would allow this new region, this would solve the problem. It would also solve the distance problem. Of course the Florida schools would have to go along with it also.
Also, congrats to Camden on another championship!
Just a thought. What do other fans think about this idea?
Southside
December 14th, 2009
7:01 am
Todd Holcomb what a joke. Ranking Marist number 8 and not ranking North Clayton, despite Marist not even making it past the 2nd round? I agree with blue and white, you really don’t know what your doing. Marist should be ranked at all.
NTH Trojans
December 14th, 2009
7:12 am
First and foremost, let me congratulate all the finalists on great seasons, and congratulate all the state champs, you earned and deserve it. Now to clear up any kind of confusion on the Gainesville/Peach Co game, there are no ties in championships anymore. Coach Miller went for 2 in that situation for 2 reasons. 1) Their kicking game has been suspect all season, it just wasn’t a big issue because they have not had to depend on it UNTIL that game. 2) Until their last 2 possessions, Gainesville had not sustained any drives on PC all game long, so he took both things into consideration, and decided to try to steal the game by going for 2. It was the right call. The only thing that I don’t understand, is why he did not leave the ball in Sims’(#2) hands, and either roll him out on a run/pass option, or run a QB draw. With Sims’ athletic ability, I can’t see him not converting. As one blogger said earlier, it was the gutsiest call of the finals. If it works, he’s a genius, if it doesn’t, he’ll be second guessed forever.
Player of The Year
December 14th, 2009
7:14 am
Blake Sims All day long that kid is the truth. Da Rick is a down field threat and thats it. He cannot and did not do all the things Mr. Sims did this year on that field. Yes he is going to Georgia and Mr. Sims is going to Alabama. Don’t rob the kid, best player in the state this year by far.
rwdekalbfan
December 14th, 2009
7:19 am
Does anyone on here remember when during the regular season there were several teams complaining on here how Camden County did not belong in the top 10 because they had 2 losses but Todd tried to explain the reason they were still in the top 10 and people thought the ajc folks were favoring certain teams and were biased against their teams which were undefeated at the time. Please let this be a lesson for next year so we dont have to listen to all the whining. I dont think anyone outside of Camden County believed they would repeat as champions. Wow.
NTH Trojans
December 14th, 2009
7:22 am
I also wanted to say that I’ve enjoyed blogging with all of you this year. Especially Sportsfan, ENR (even though you can get under my skin worse than anyone, but I do like your passion for your team), Slalom, Reeze, Yo, AVikingFan, and anyone else that I forgot. Hopefully next year I’ll get to meet up with all of you in the dome and have some fun.
rwdekalbfan
December 14th, 2009
7:25 am
Sandy Creek had an incredible year and made a believer out of a lot of people. Even though they were in the top 5 most of the year they still seemed to be under the radar. And there were not many Sandy Creek people on here bad mouthing other teams. Seems like a very classy program.
NTH Trojans
December 14th, 2009
7:35 am
rwdekalbfan,
I know what you are saying. I wasn’t sure if Camden would win State (which they did, of course), but I did defend Todd and the AJC (which is something that I’m not in the habit of doing), on their keeping Camden in the top 10 after starting 1-2. What Camden did this year shows that it’s not all about the games you win, but also how well you play in the games you lose, and the quality of your opponent. I’ve gone on record here saying that Camden can not control how strong the competition in their region is, but they do a great job of scheduling tough non-region opponents, and in my opinion, that’s what helped them win another Championship.
Ga.Football
December 14th, 2009
7:38 am
Blake Sims Player Of the Year Hands Down Did more things on the field then any player I saw this year Da’rick very good player Sims just did more on the field all year. Da’rick offense player of the year. Ogletree defensive player of the year. Sims player of the year without a doubt.
NTH Trojans
December 14th, 2009
7:40 am
Ga. football,
Maybe so, but he wasn’t even the best QB in his region. That honor goes to Connor Shaw,
Ga.Football
December 14th, 2009
8:00 am
NTH Trojans,
Where not talking best QB an a region.But since you brought it up he was the best player in your region He beat all of ya’ll right or wrong be happy for a young man am not from you all region and we came to see him play. Best player in georgia hands down.Best QB in the state Mason.
BJohnDawg
December 14th, 2009
8:11 am
I think once and for all Camden has put the hate bloggers to shame. They beat three region 1 AAAAA( clearly best region in state) on the road to a championship. So hopefully the trash talk will end. They improved so much from the beginning of the season, and Coach Herron and his staff have done an amazing job.
When you talk about MVP, there are so many talented players, Olgetree, Rogers, Shaw,Sims, and yes even Days.But that is why Georgia is a recruiting hot bed for HS football, just a ton of talent, and that is why HS football in GA is so much fun.Few states( Texas the exception)draw the crowds and the excitement.I think it is Olgetree.
The final rankings are right on
Congrats to all the state winners and runner ups. Just to make it to the final game is an accomplishment a team can be proud of.AJC…we dont always agree on what is written, but we are glad you cover high school football, and hope that it continues.
NTH Trojans
December 14th, 2009
8:16 am
I have nothing but respect for Sims. If you read back into previous posts, you will see that I have said that he is the best athlete in the state. But we both know that he won’t play QB at Alabama. As far MY team, I have a son that plays for Hiram High School, but I live in the Gainesville area, and have a stepdaughter that goes to North Hall, but I think that Bob Christmas is a turd that cares nothing about his players’ futures, that’s why I think so highly of Coach Miller of Gainesville, and Coach Shaw of Flowery Branch, because they are always tring to find scholarships for their players instead of just trying to pad their resumes for their next job offer like Christmas. If my son were to move up here, I would find a way for him to attend Gainesville, so he could play for Miller. I actually attended more Gainesville games this year than NH games. When playoff time came, I pull for all 7AAA teams this year. Can you say the same? As far as players on Gainesvilles’ roster, my favorites were Rucker, Sprague, and AJ Johnson (I like defense).
1BearFan
December 14th, 2009
8:18 am
I know he didn’t get the chance to showcase his talent to a state wide audience like Blake Sims and the Marshall kid from Wilcox Co, but Terrell Brigham form Burke Co might be the best kept secret in Ga. Ask the coaches from Carver, and for that matter the coaches from Cairo about last year. Back to back seasons of 3000 yds of offense. He’s as accurate as any quarterback in the state and runs with the power of a fullback. He’s also a ball hawk on defense. A game changer on either side of the ball. I know the AJC considered Sims to be the best player in the state, but I think you should look at his (Brigham) complete body of work and then make a decision. Go Bears!!!!!
Brent
December 14th, 2009
8:20 am
You nailed it on the Peach. County game as a VERY PROUD PEACH ALUM. I gotta say hats off to Gainesville on an excellent played game. GO TROJANS!!!
BigB
December 14th, 2009
8:56 am
Peach County was undefeated and playing for its THIRD Championship this year and for some disrespectful reason, they were the underdogs. Peach dominated the entire game and actually squandered three redzone opportunities. They really kept Blake Sims in check and but for one blown coverage & that pitiful prevent defense in the waning seconds, the game wasn’t really as close as the score showed. Even Gainesville’s Coach said he couldn’t stop the run, so he didn’t want to risk OT with Peach.
Blake Sims is overrated as a QB. He’s an exceptional athlete but his accuracy is not good, he doesn’t read through his progressions and he can’t throw a strong out pass. Peach’s QB was a way better passer. Blake should do well as a special teams returner, slot receiver and potentially a Db at Alabama. I also think his coach should have let him loose more in the championship game. I was thankful that he didn’t keep the ball and run it in on that 2pt conversion try. I think Gainesville underestimated Peach’s team speed too.
As a 1991 Peach County grad, I’m happy we won. In the 90’s we couldn’t get over the hump and I remember us even being in Gainesville’s shoes in a championship game against Thomas Central (we failed to convert a 2pt conversion too). With THREE STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS in five years, you have to mention us as one of the best current Georgia Football programs.
NTH Trojans
December 14th, 2009
9:07 am
BigB,
I agree with your assessment of the AAA title game. Sims is the better athlete, but Peach’s QB was better. Coach Miller did the right thing by going for 2. He figured he had a better of winning it there, than having to rely on his offense to score again. Even so, it was still the best game of the weekend, played by two teams that match up well with each other.
PACKDADDY
December 14th, 2009
9:25 am
Camden, enough said. Northside, not even close. By the way, how did that deal with the officials losing count of the downs in the Colquitt-Northside game ever turn out? 31-3. HA HA HAc Yean, were still pretty sore about that.
TROJANGATOR
December 14th, 2009
9:30 am
Gainesville did the same thing Peach Co did in 1992 vs Thomas Co Central. went for 2 and lost…if not for that game,PCHS would have 4 titles.
Buddy
December 14th, 2009
9:50 am
Unbelievable, if Jackson had won the championship game, I think they still would have finished 3rd!
FG
December 14th, 2009
9:56 am
Nick Marshall Plays for the Nike Georgia Blazers and is one of the top PG’s in the country . He wants to play Basketball and Florida State is one of his favorites right now! Georgia Blazers have 3 of the Top 100 players in the country on its roster!
Ricky
December 14th, 2009
10:07 am
Todd, in your Article you said “I hope I get this right” Are you the only voter in the AJC poll?
Ralph Porter
December 14th, 2009
10:19 am
Marshall is a great quarterback, but most of the other players on the Wilcox team acted like a bunch of thugs! No one has mentioned the fact that Wilcox had three unsportsman like penalties called on them! Their coach seemed to shrug them off when pictured on tv.
NTH Trojans
December 14th, 2009
10:24 am
Buddy,
Unless the Championship game is a total blowout, then the 2 finalists should be ranked 1-2 in the final poll. Where’s your problem with where Jackson wound up? They lost in the Quarters to Eastside, therefore they should not have been ranked any higher.
NTH Trojans
December 14th, 2009
10:30 am
I’ve said it all year long, and I’ll say it again, it’s not only about who you beat, but also who you lose to that should affect how you are ranked in the final polls. Todd and the AJC did a good job on ranking them accordingly.
PTC DAWG
December 14th, 2009
10:36 am
The bickering over this so called final poll is HIGHlarious. It’s just a guys opinion, the Championships were EARNED on the field. Who cares who finished 2-10th?
That said, Congrats to Sandy Creek…1st Fayette County Champion in Football EVER.
Flyer
December 14th, 2009
10:40 am
Todd,
Not sure how this topic got moved to the player of the year, but here is my take on the AAAAA rankings. I am not one of these guys that like the BCS way of doing things. I think Georgia high school football is great because games are decided on the field of play. Obviously Camden is number 1 and Northside is Number 2. I think that the 2 semifinal teams should be Newnan (3) and Colquitt (4). The 4 quarter final teams should take up the next 4 spots. Grayson at 5 (quality early win against Camden). North Gwinnett at 6 (6-1 against AAAAA playoff teams, quality early win against Al. state runner up). Lassiter at 7 ( I know this will not be a popular choice, but they were undefeated region champs and reached the state qtr finals and only lost to a top 4 team. Peachtree ridge at 8 ( They might have had the weakest road to the Qtr finals, but they made it nonetheless), Stephenson would be 9th( they were region champs that made it to the 2nd round). And finally Lowndes would be 10th (they didn’t win their region and lost in the 2nd round).
I there might be some unpopular selections there, but I believe it what you do on the field that counts, not perception. I realize Lowndes was in the toughest part of the bracket, but if they had taken care of business on the field they wouldn’t have been there. I also realize they they beat 2 of the teams I ranked ahead of them. But you know what, every single team in AAAAA had at least 1 loss. Camden lost to Grayson. So by that logic Grayson should be number 1. Well then Newnan beat Grayson, so they should be number 1. See how that sounds. The cut and dry of a playoff system is to put the top teams together and see who comes out on top and I learned a long time ago that it is not if you lose, but when you lose that matters.
Todd Holcomb
December 14th, 2009
11:02 am
Trust us on this one: There would have been overtime if Gainesville had tied Peach County 13-13 after regulation.
‘’In my opinion, the most overrated school in the last five years has been Stephenson H.S. out of Dekalb County. Year in and year out, Stephenson produces many D-1 players. Yet, Stephenson has problems beating teams from South Georgia who can match them talent and speed wise. The No. 8 ranking in Class AAAAA is too high.’’
Stephenson won every game except for a one-point loss to a team that made the semifinals. That sounds like the resume of a No. 8 team in the state.
“Todd Holcomb— this years game between Hoover and Camden was the 2nd game of a home and away series. Camden beat hoover in Alabama last year 44-16. So this years game was the rematch!”
I know. I’d like for them to play again next week, though. I’m calling Hoover this morning to see about it. : )
“tucker should have made the final rankings. . .
and mack brown is still the best player in the state not that ace ogletree”
Gave a lot of thought to Tucker. Also, Mack Brown might be the best player, but due to injury or other factors, he didn’t have the season that would allow him to be considered the state player of the year.
“Todd Holcomb what a joke. Ranking Marist number 8 and not ranking North Clayton, despite Marist not even making it past the 2nd round? I agree with blue and white, you really don’t know what your doing. Marist should be ranked at all.”
We could take the easy way out and put all the QF teams in the final eight and all the SF teams in the top four. There would be less controversy. Or we can look deeper at why teams advanced. If you can beat Tucker 32-7, as Marist did, then I’m thinking you would’ve had little trouble making the semifinals if you’d had North Clayton’s draw.
“Sandy Creek had an incredible year and made a believer out of a lot of people. Even though they were in the top 5 most of the year they still seemed to be under the radar. And there were not many Sandy Creek people on here bad mouthing other teams. Seems like a very classy program.”
Good post.
“Peach County was undefeated and playing for its THIRD Championship this year and for some disrespectful reason, they were the underdogs. Peach dominated the entire game and actually squandered three redzone opportunities.”
Peach was the better team Saturday, but Gainesville also squandered two red-zone opportunities. Gainesville also had more total yardage. I don’t think one team was largely better than the other.
leechampion
December 14th, 2009
11:03 am
well its over now! this AAA fan sees his Carver Tigers moved down to AA and have Columbus and Shaw to butt heads with Lagrange, Troup and Carrollton next year. Expect Carver to rule new AA region 5 with little competition. Region 1 AAAA will belong to Northside (WR)( sorry but w 2 “northside”s we will have to distinguish them.) good news is i now have AAAA, AAA and AA teams to follow!
great year guys and i enjoyed the blogging.
Paul
December 14th, 2009
11:04 am
Congrats to Sandy Creek!! Thanks for bringing a State Championship to Fayette County!!!
Todd Holcomb
December 14th, 2009
11:06 am
‘’Todd, in your Article you said ‘I hope I get this right’ Are you the only voter in the AJC poll?’’
Ultimately, yes. The state has three human polls, and each provides a different perspective. One is a vote of about 10 sports writers (AP). Another is a vote of an unspecified number of coaches (GaSports). The coaches are the most conservative (the runner-up will always be #2, and the semifinalists will always be #3-4). The AP poll is less conservative, but the act of consensus-making still tends to make for a conservative poll. The AJC has always had a single person do the rankings, which offers a different look. That’s been the tradition since 1952, when Charlie Roberts (well known former prep writer for those old enough to remember) began doing them. There are advantages and disadvantages to having one person coordinate the rankings. The disadvantage is that any biases or blind spots that one person has cannot be overridden in a one-person poll. I can’t tell you how hard I try to avoid those ‘’blind spots,’’ but realistically, nobody can be absolutely objective no matter how hard they try. But what I like about the AJC’s tradition (whether it’s me or somebody else doing it) is that the one person is going to spend far more time analyzing teams and games than anyone else in the state. We might disagree on the rankings, but it’s very rare that someone will bring up a point that I haven’t considered. That’s because I must defend the rankings on a blog against some of the most knowledgeable fans in the state. If I have weaknesses, you will find it.
Todd Holcomb
December 14th, 2009
11:13 am
Flyer: I respect your way of doing the rankings. I just choose to go another way. Standings tell you who had the best records. Draws tell you who advanced the farthest in the playoffs. Rankings tell you how good the teams really were. Each has a different purpose. I’d rather rankings serve a purpose than than be redundant to standings and draws.
SportsFan31313
December 14th, 2009
11:14 am
Todd Holcomb
December 13th, 2009
4:58 pm
SportsFan31313: Savannah Christian has never won a GHSA state title in football but won 7 football state titles in GISA.
Greetings Todd,
I didn’t do the research but I did know off the top of my head that they had three under GISA. Thanks for the info, and the correction.
titletownusa2008
December 14th, 2009
11:19 am
agree with the final rankings. Lowndes Camden came in the 2nd round was the state championship game!
BullDawg Rick
December 14th, 2009
11:25 am
Best TEAM of the Century??: Buford Wolves
Best Players of 2009 season??: Alec Ogletree
Da-RIck Rodgers will learn that when playing great TEAMS, he MUST tote the rock locked in his arm pit & not one handed like a loaf of bread! Fumbles cost Calhoun..
SportsFan31313
December 14th, 2009
11:30 am
Greetings Northside Observer,
I wish Northside Warner robins the very best as this will be another exciting 2010 football season for the Eagles, and the teams that they will face in Class AAAA and their Region.
Yes I agree with you that Had Camden County had been realigned to Region 1-AAAAA Bradwell Institute would have definitely had a shot at winning the Region Title again. However; I must tell you that with the disappointing season that Bradwell Institute had this year, the pressure is being placed upon the Coaches for a better Season next year. I look forward to see how next season plans out. Inaddition, I saw under GHSA that Bradwell Instritue does get some notoriety, and it gives me some satisfaction.
Daily List
Most victories for the decade (2000-09):
Class AAAAA
Camden County: 121-13
Northside: 121-14
Lowndes: 106-21
Parkview: 103-26
Stephenson: 99-24
Brookwood: 91-31
Harrison: 87-30
Roswell: 87-30-1
Creekside: 85-27
Walton: 82-34
East Coweta: 82-36
North Gwinnett: 79-30
Warner Robins: 77-37-1
Newnan: 77-41
Valdosta: 76-44-1
Grayson: 75-33
ML King: 74-23
Collins Hill: 73-39
Norcross: 70-38
Bradwell Institute: 70-39
Based on schools’ current classification.
AVikingFan
December 14th, 2009
11:32 am
EagleNationRizing – First of all, thanks for the get well wishes after my open heart surgery recently. Local rumor has Georgia Southerns’ ex coach Hatcher going to a Div II school in Tennessee or Kentucky. Valdosta High rumor mill swirls around 7 coaches, one from Charlotte, one from Utah, Coffey from Camden who also coached at Raines High in Jacksonville, McWorter from Charlton County, and some not announced. Reportedly the guy from Charlotte who coached Chris Leak of Un. of Florida fame and Massaquah and Joe Cox QB from UGA, told Valdosta officials he would coach the Wildcats for $10,000 a win.
I assure you no decision has been made to replace Rick Tomberlin. I truly hope he lands on his feet at a good up and coming school. He is a fine man, a good coach, and a class act. I personally think Kennesaw Mountain would be a great place for him to land!
A special thanks to Todd Holcomb and Chip Saye, and to Michael Carvell for their hard work keeping us informed this year. And thanks to all of you well wishers following my heart surgery. A very special thanks to a Patriot, gentleman, veteran and very good friend SportsFan31313 for your many calls and messages.
YO, Northside Observer, Headeast, Cannon Rules, Wolverine2Blazer, Plowboy, Goober, Jaybo, Brookwood mom an all of you special bloggers, I wish each of you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
PS EagleNationRising, take it easy on Jaybo next year. Don’t PeachtreeRidge him like Camden did to Northside. The poor guy doesn’t know what he’s in for, with Northside and Thomas County Central being in the same region next year. I hope Northside returns to our region one day when they think they are ready to win with the big boys. (Just had to humorously get in one last jab ENR. Merry Christmas guy, and Happy New Year!)
Stephenson Jag
December 14th, 2009
11:37 am
Hey Todd, I see there are some coaching jobs opening up around Atlanta and Dekalb. Any insight who may take over the Douglass Astros and MLK Lions?…And although i’m a Stephenson Jaguar fan and supporter PLEASE tell me if you have ANY NEWS on ANY coaching CHANGES for STEPHENSON.We need some! I think Gartrell has to be in HOT SEAT after the under achievement this year. I know MANY jaguar fans who are NOT PLEASED with the coaching decisions that were made during the Colquitt game. I’m anxious to see if some of the Stephenson staff breaks up now that Coach Jarvis says he’s planning to leave MLK and Douglass is re-building. Todd and Stephenson-Dekalb Co. fans what do you think???? Stephenson High..make some coaching CHANGES!!
Good points Todd but
December 14th, 2009
11:40 am
In regards to “Peach was the better team Saturday, but Gainesville also squandered two red-zone opportunities. Gainesville also had more total yardage. I don’t think one team was largely better than the other”
Gainesville squandered those opportunities thanks to Peach’s defense. Viewing it any other way and one could also point out the dropped passes and squandered opportunities by Peach. The game was not as close as the score indicated. Peach had an awesome defensive game plan along with a time of possession oriented offense. Its a mute point but if Peach doesn’t play a prevent at the end, Gainesville doesn’t score. In any event, it was indeed the most thrilling game of the weekened (the 4th quarter and finish). Also, kudos to Gainesville’s defense as they played exceptionally well. Their linebackers are VERY good. Again, very good poll and thanks for putting in the time and effort to give us something to view/debate.
Cody
December 14th, 2009
11:42 am
EHS Eagle, I’m not sure how you can say Eastside played Peach better than SPX. Same score except SPX took Peach to overtime.
Boro Boi, Born and raised
December 14th, 2009
11:47 am
Swainsboro had 2 losses on the season……and those came from #3 (Fitzgerald) and #5(Jefferson County) in the state….the loss to #3 coming in the 2nd round of the playoffs and we aren’t in the Top 10 in the state in AA? The blatant disrespect for South Georgia schools still exists I see. What county did Washuan Ealey come from again?
jaybee
December 14th, 2009
11:53 am
I have some good news and some bad news.The good news is,every team will be 0-0 at the start of next season. The bad news is, Camden’s 9th and 10th grade teams were undefeated this year. That’s flat out scary !!!
Flowery Branch Yellow Jacket
December 14th, 2009
12:02 pm
Todd,
Is there a web site anywhere that shows both team and individual statistics from GHSA football games? I would love to be able to compare the stats of Connor Shaw, Blake Sims, and the QB from Wilcox County. It would also be nice to compare the stats of some of the great running backs across the state, or even some of the defensive stars. Who (if anyone) keeps track of this information?
BullDawg Rick
December 14th, 2009
12:08 pm
FBYJ – Blake Sims is a better QB & all around athlete than Connor Shaw… At the HS level..
Sims has blazing speed, returns kicks & will be a WR at the next level (Bama)
Shaw is more of a pure dropback QB, & will not hurt anyone with his speed at the next level (SC)
Both are outstanding persons on & off the gridiron… Have seen both play a few times (vs Buford in scrimmages, which BTW Buford won)
DC2
December 14th, 2009
12:11 pm
Treutlen County should have beaten Wilcox in the first round of the playoffs but lost 23-20.
DC2
December 14th, 2009
12:14 pm
I agree with Ralph Porter, Wilcox did play dirty football.
BIG CAT FAN
December 14th, 2009
12:26 pm
FACE IT YO THE VIKES LOST TO BOTH THE WINNER AN THE RUNNER UP WHO BOTH BEAT THE VIKES
TJ
December 14th, 2009
12:38 pm
OK, it is over now and I have digested season and am still surprised at the AAAAA finish. I really thought the game would have been the winner of Grayson/Newnan game versus Camden/Lowndes winner. Like Fred said, I think the brawl between Grayson/Newnan weakened Newnan. Ogletree almost single handedly beat Grayson. Best player in high school football this year. But watching Camden, they rightfully are the undisputed champs. If you watch the Grayson/Camden game from Corky Kell and the championship game, Camden shows huge improvement. The old saying is true, it is not how you start the season, it is how you end it. Biggest improvement was at QB. Being able to stretch the field with air attack opens up the running lanes. Next year should be another great one. I anticipate the return of Brookwood next year. Grayson will rebuild. NSWR moving down to AAAA? How is that fair….they could have won AAAAA next year with all the returning talent they had. I guess every year we have to watch out for Camden now no matter where they play. Look forward to talking signing day…..spring preview and next season. Happy Holidays fellow bloggers!!! Talk to you next year.
SportsFan31313
December 14th, 2009
12:50 pm
Boro Boi, Born and raised,
Ealey wne to ECI. Emmanuel County Institute.
SportsFan31313
December 14th, 2009
12:52 pm
Greetings AVikingFan,
Thank you and you have a safe and prosperous holiday season. Lets gear for being perfect next season.
Red Elephant
December 14th, 2009
12:58 pm
I do not understand the logic behind Gainesville going for two.
Unless the kicker is very bad, an extra point is a high percentage play. Two point conversions–especially passes–are very low percentage completion plays. Also, with a state championship on the line, that decision seems to be an even bigger gamble to take.
Does anyone think there is the possibility the Gainesville coach did not understand that the overtime rules had changed a few years ago? I am scratching my head trying to understand the coach’s reasoning for going for two–my only conclusion is he did not properly assess the odds of success–particulary for so much being on the line.
Red
Doc Reem
December 14th, 2009
1:27 pm
Let’s not forget about Martay Mattox, the Jr. Clarke Central Quarterback. He actually played a pretty good game and made some excellent plays passing and running the ball. The kid should be a Super Eleven pick as well. He has the same the type of talent as Nick Marshall but was not allowed to show it by an extremely consrvative offensive attack implemented by Clarke Central. They gave the ball to a Soph. running back 24 times totaling 78 yards. Seems Clarke Central just wouldn’t open the offense up and that hurt them. Martay Mattox was one of the main reasons they got to the state Championship. The kid had over 2500 total offensive yards and over 30 total TD’s. So don’t sleep, Martay Mattox has the same type of arm and athletic ability as Nick Marshall. Don’t take my word for it just watch the game when GPTV replayS it on the 17th and look at what he does when he was given opportunities to pass and run.
Southside
December 14th, 2009
1:29 pm
Todd you said and I quote,
“we can look deeper at why teams advanced. If you (Marist) can beat Tucker 32-7, as Marist did, then I’m thinking you would’ve had little trouble making the semifinals if you’d had North Clayton’s draw”.
Todd your quotes bothers me. Especially the part where it says I’m thinking Marist would’ve won those games that North Clayton won. And you also brought up the fact that Marist beating Tucker was more impressive than any of North Clayton’s wins.
Looks like someone’s personal feelings are clouding the facts. Why didn’t you back up your rankings with facts.
Why didn’t you bring up the fact that North Clayton played the best team in the state #1 Griffin and almost beat them. The score was tied at 14 in the forth quarter before losing 26-14.
And why didn’t you bring up the fact that North Clayton going 5 hours down to South Georgia and beating Brunswick the Region 2-AAAA champs?
Or you could have brought up the fact that North Clayton had a better record against playoff teams than Marist. Here is a breakdown of the two teams.
Marist was 3-3 against playoff teams with wins against Chamblee, Tucker, Sprayberry and losing to SW Dekalb, St. Pius & Apalachee
North Clayton was 5-2 versus playoff teams with wins against Banneker, Alcovy, Mt.Zion, Banbridge & Brunswick and losing to Griffin the #1 team all year and to State Runner Up Clark Central.
Now you did bring up North Clayton’s 1 point to Duchtown who was by the way 7-3 on the season)in a meaningless last game of the season.
But what you didn’t bring up was that North Clayton held out 6 starters for that game?
But even if you count the lost to Dutchtown, North Clayton would be 5-3 versus playoff caliber teams.
The way I SEE IT North Clayton deserved to be ranked in the final poll ahead of Marist in 2009. Students in Clayton county gets no love. All you hear about is the negative things that happen. AJC had a chance to get it right and they blew it.
If you would stick with the facts and not your opinions or traditions then you would see it that way too.
I’m the Voice of the Southside in Clayton County and I’m out.
cane fan
December 14th, 2009
1:32 pm
if you are not first your last; fitzgerald will be firsst nest year, good squad comming back
Taylor Wooten
December 14th, 2009
1:38 pm
Congrats to the Lowndes Vikings for finishing #3 in the state and #2 in Region 1. Great job Vikes. It is a little disappointing though….I really thought we would win the national championship this year. There is no FREAKING way that Camden and Northside was better than us.
Billy
December 14th, 2009
1:38 pm
Congrats to the Colquitt County Packers on a great season! 11-3 and the State semi-finals!!
Sailor
December 14th, 2009
1:50 pm
Todd Holcomb:
“Peach was the better team Saturday, but Gainesville also squandered two red-zone opportunities. Gainesville also had more total yardage. I don’t think one team was largely better than the other.”
I beg to differ. Peach County dominated Gainesville. Other than one blown coverage (long TD pass to Jones) and the the completions during the final drive, Gainesville was SHUT DOWN. You can view it in terms of total yardage, but taken in context, that yardage came mostly in desperation plays. At no point in the game, save the final drive, did Gainesville put together 3 consecutive plays where they dominated Peach County. Conversely, Peach Co. had several sustained and methodical marches for points where they literally dominated the Gainesville squad.
Watching the game, you could tell that one team was bigger than the other, but you could also tell that the smaller team played with heart and they played well together. The point that’s missing here is that while both teams are talented, only one had home grown talent. None of Peach Co’s players were recruited or transferred in. Three of Peach’s offensive linemen weighed less than 190 lbs and their lack of size on defense required that they play a 3-3-5. They didn’t bring players in from Cass (QB Sims) or Roswell (WR Jones) to turn an average team into a contender.
Consider this, Peach Co. has 20 years of state dominance: 207 wins – 48 losses, 11 region championships, 6 state championship game appearances, 3 state titles, 5-0 record in the Georgia Dome, and 5 players into the NFL (which doesn’t include Greg Lloyd, who played in the mid-early 80’s). All of this was accomplished without recruiting any ’special transfer’ players. So, when posters talk about Trojan Pride, that’s what they mean.
Lissa
December 14th, 2009
2:00 pm
Congratulations to Camden County! I wish I had been able to attend the game, but did watch it on tv. Those punt returns were painful! Anyway, good luck to Northside again next year.
Georgia HS Football Weak
December 14th, 2009
2:06 pm
OK, I’m having trouble making sense of this. The team from a AAAAA region, which has only one actual AAAAA school and mostly AAA schools, beats the 1 and 2 seeded teams from the self-proclaimed toughest region in the state like a stray dog?!?! 1AAAAA folks should not show their faces until next season. Guess this shows the overall weakest of Georgia AAAAA football.
yo
December 14th, 2009
2:10 pm
Fred considering Newnan’s lack of competition in the regular season and not generally playing 2 good teams in a row most all season, you could be right. Welcome to our world.
yo
December 14th, 2009
2:14 pm
stop all yall whinning….stop all yall babbling
For TJ
December 14th, 2009
2:14 pm
Think Camden actually showed huge improvement from the Grayson game or was it Grayson’s total domination of Camden during that game? I do recall Camden’s offense did nothing the entire game and Grayson blew them off the line and ran basic plays down their throats. Camden should send Christmas cards to Newnan.
highschool football fan
December 14th, 2009
2:17 pm
Congratulations to Camden players, coaches and fans. A great season ending in the state championship. (Columbia Blue) show a little class if you have any. Your “fact” statement of Camden winning 1-AAAAA championship because they beat three teams from the region is stupid. To win the region you have to play seven, thats right seven teams in the region. Enjoy the victory it was well deserved. Looking forward to next season. Happy Holidays to all.
#5isAuntieBaby
December 14th, 2009
2:38 pm
Congratulations Camden! Great game Peach County…Gainesville’s decision was mirror image of the championship Peach played in with Jacquez Green, my honey! Funny how history repeats… Be looking out for #5 JJ Green, the only freshman to start and make a HUGE difference on any team in the STATE…
ballboy
December 14th, 2009
2:53 pm
Congrats to every team that is reconsized. But these polls are not perfect. They are several individuals; that feels that their school should not be left out. I don’t understand why you have schools that have 3 losses on this list. I am a MLK fan and we lost to 2 teams (Stephenson, Newnan) that made the list. Please explain?
South Georgia AA fan
December 14th, 2009
2:56 pm
Why not write an article about the Buford program…their advantages and why they don’t play up in classification. The tie-ins to the Gwinnett Football League and the influence Buford parents play on transfers into the system. Everybody in Georgia knows they’re playing better than AAAAA talent, especially on the line of scrimmage. Two D-1 commits on the line of scrimmage, a couple of more that will probably sign some where, and several youngsters who will probably sign D-1 scholarships one day.
Let’s face it. An open enrollment school in the midst of 15 AAAAA programs and the Hall County teams would have advantages.
COUNCILCAT
December 14th, 2009
2:58 pm
yo…have you mailed us the region 1 trophy yet? mail to
Back-to-Back Blvd.
TheNewWinnersville, Ga 31548
rick
December 14th, 2009
3:12 pm
Stephenson? really? seriously?
Oh, i get it, you have to mention at least one Dekalb school no matter their overblown status. I’m good. nevermind.
Flyer
December 14th, 2009
3:13 pm
South Georgia AA fan — That would be a good article indeed! However you left out the Forsyth County recruits coming over. They have a 9th grader that tranfered in from South Forsyth this year. The kid is a beast and 6′3 241lbs. He is probaby bigger than that, but that is what is posted on the Buford roster.
Buford Dam
December 14th, 2009
3:26 pm
http://www.bufordcityschools.org/Tuition/tuitioninfo.htm
S.GA AA fan—we have the best private school bargain in the state. Check us out. Scholarships galore. Come on up–the water is just fine.
BD
ECARTER
December 14th, 2009
3:29 pm
Hats off to Peach County. A team that was not even mentioned as much as
others especially those in the metro Atlanta area. It shows that great
hype thru words never dominates that of action. Never under estimate
the power of the relative unknown even when you had history in front of you to direct you.
Beautiful Monte
December 14th, 2009
3:30 pm
BigBlue1’s comments about weight rooms, booster clubs, etc., sounds like a bunch of sour grapes. I bet he wants Obama to step in and “redistribute” some of the wealth.
Don’t get me wrong. Weight rooms, booster clubs, etc., are vital elements of most consistently successful programs. But these types of things are the result of PARENTS and COMMUNITIES that give actually a damn about their children. They don’t talk the talk; they walk the walk.
BigBlue1’s favorite team can have a weight room, a booster club, etc. – if the PARENTS and the COMMUNITY are willing to put forth the HARD WORK that it takes to build such things.
Just don’t complain about an “unlevel” playing field if you’re too lazy to do anything about it.
Love High School Football
December 14th, 2009
3:30 pm
Now that Jarvis is leaving MLK maybe, just maybe we’ll get a coach that won’t choke during the Playoffs and who won’t make the same crazy calls; i.e. allowing your field goal kicker to do the kickoff when you know the ball will go no farther than 20 – 30 yards, and calling up the middle plays when you it’s 3rd down and 20+ yards to go for a 1st down…
Love High School Football
December 14th, 2009
3:32 pm
Oh yeah…who calls an ‘off side kick’ when you’re leading right before the half? No one but Jarvis!
HEY AJC
December 14th, 2009
3:46 pm
yeah Todd – can even you agree that BLUE CHIP PLAYERS ARE MADE BY EXPOSURE, a kid can be the best that ever played the game but if his/her exploits never make it out of the stadium no one will ever know.
so if the team does not have a daily in its area which considers its part of its core readership the team and its players get little more than a box score as write ups if they are lucky. now and to this ever if both the mid majors and the king of the hemp(ajc) diminish off hand the the level of competition of some teams (as in the case of camden) while glorifying blowout victories of others over much smaller programs – you in effect do a disservice to all those kids without the benefit of a daily to accurately extol their accomplishments and in turn without the local exposure these kids gets no real exposure on the state level and in turn these teams and players get no exposure on the nationally level which in the end may cost these kids at a chance at a college education (full /partial scholarship offers) there are more than just the 50 or so school whose we see week in and out every fall
congrats to all the champs, the runner ups and every kids who got to participate this past season
happy holidays and for those moving on to the next level and those who return next year good luck!!
SWD Panther Paw
December 14th, 2009
3:48 pm
Beautiful Monte
Lay off the political stuff…this is a sport’s blog. That taype of talk isn’t needed.
White Trash
December 14th, 2009
3:55 pm
For TJ – Are you serious about Camden! Do you realize that when Camden played Grayson, that was there first game with that team losing 17 of 22 starters year ago. Camden did not who they were at that time. If Camden and Grayson played again now, I believe the results will not be the same. Stop being a poor loser. We do not need to Thank Newnan, they were better than you and we would have beaten them as well.
Player of The Year
December 14th, 2009
4:12 pm
blake sims is player of year! no doubt about.
gaboy
December 14th, 2009
4:26 pm
Player of the year
I think blake sims he was exciten all year my kids all wanted to go see him play every game and we are from Decatur and we saw 5 of his games and he turned it out in every game he gets my vote!
SouthGABoy
December 14th, 2009
4:48 pm
I, being older than dirt, remember the glory days of Valdosta (50’s) when no one wanted to play them, especially a Class B school from Camden County!!
with all the hoopla about North Georgia football, let me say this: There ain’t now, nor will there ever be any consistent football powers in AAAAA – statewide – like there are in South Georgia. An by South Georgia, I mean Brunswick across to Albany and south to the State Line.
You’re also talking about a population in that area that would fit into Gwinnett County! If South Georgia had the population N. Georgia has, there would NEVER be a “North Georgia Champion” in AAAAA. As it is, there’s no doubt in my mind there ever will be – population or not.
(somewhere in the 315 Zip code)
footballfanatic
December 14th, 2009
4:52 pm
I believe it should be sims because he was a human highlight in everygame.
BullDawg Rick
December 14th, 2009
4:59 pm
So Ga AA Fan & other “haters” of the Buford DyNASTY:
It’s just like any other skol.. Ya wanna attend skol, play sports, get a good edukation.. Foot the bill & come on over…
Quit Hatin & Start Appreciatin’….
The Wolves went on the road & beat #2…
Went to the UGA Dome & beat #1 to become Numero Uno, Ya Know..
Oh Yeah, There’s a LOT more coming the next 2 years..
Get used to it!!
gville
December 14th, 2009
5:01 pm
I am from gainesville Blake sims for player of the year.He did every thing kick retun punt return qb and punt it hes my pick.
OLDHAWG
December 14th, 2009
5:07 pm
The Colquitt County Packers have to be in the top 4. They lost to NSWR and Camden County, both of which were in the finals, and to Lowndes County which probably should have been in the finals.
Sailor
December 14th, 2009
5:18 pm
By the way, did anyone else catch the Gainesville principals half-time interview when he was asked about the diversity at his school? He stated (paraphrasing), ‘Although we have nine nationalities and a lot of diversity, it still hasn’t affected our test scores because we’re in the Top 10 and stuff’.’
Amazing.
pity poor monroe area
December 14th, 2009
5:36 pm
To those who are dissing Apalachee’s ranking – remember that 8-AAAA was the ONLY region in the state to have three out of four playoff teams in the quarters and two IN THE SEMIFINALS. Apalachee earned every yard and point it made this season, going 10-0 to win its first region title and then winning two overtime games in the first two rounds. the ‘Cats beat Marist in one of the best finishes I’ve witnessed in years and some of you still don’t want to give the them their due. Yes, Griffin manhandled Apalachee, but on that particular Friday night, there were only SIX other AAAA teams still playing. yours probably wasn’t one of them. Deal with it.
Buford Dam
December 14th, 2009
5:50 pm
Sailor–Yea I heard that too. Unbelievable–sort of like that dumba** decision by their coach to go for two–it was only the state championship on the line. I guess they don’t teach risk assessment at GHS.
BD
slalom1
December 14th, 2009
5:54 pm
Congrats to all of the 2009 STATE CHAMPS. Got to say that the AAA final was undoubtedly the most exciting. As for the final rankings, they look pretty good to me. Glad to see LaGrange excluded from the list. Pathetic coaching job by the Granger staff. Looking forward to the 2010 realignment. Think about this: Buford vs. Carver-Col in the FINAL!? WOW! Hope everyone has a great 2010.
JayBo
December 14th, 2009
6:19 pm
The prblems that I have with your final rankings are all in AAAA. It looks like you find it hard to accept that you were wrong about your AAAA teams Todd. You ranked the losing team 2nd in every classification except AAAA….something is very wrong with that picture!!! The AJC had anointed Griffin or SWD as the champions in AAAA, but when it didnt happen, you arrange your final rankings in a way that reflects your aphixation with those teams. No way should Griffin be #2….should be Clark Central…just be consistent. Now of course, I dont think SWD should be ranked higher than TCC.
SouthGARules
December 14th, 2009
6:26 pm
First of all, I’m glad to see AVikingFan back on the blogs. How is your recovery coming & where did you have open-heart surgery (just curious)? My dad had multiple surgeries (75 & 3 in 93).
Second: Any talk about Camden & their weak region & doubts about their program should be squashed by going back to back & beating the top THREE teams in Region 1-AAAAA.
Also, a big thank you to all fellow bloggers for your sharing of opinions and especially to SportsFan31313, MikeMike, Northside Observer & the rest of our veterans that have served our country or are currently serving. Because of folks like you, we are able to blog & do other things we take for granted. Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to everyone.
JayBo
December 14th, 2009
6:33 pm
AViking,
I have been blogging on here for 3 years now and I am not intimadated by (you know I refuse to call his name) at all!!! You see I can talk as much trash as he can!! With that said I am looking forward to next season in a major way. I believe wholeheartedly that TCC and NS will finish as the top 2 teams in the region.
Buddy
December 14th, 2009
7:26 pm
To NTH Trojan
The problem I have is that Jackson was ranked 7th before the playoffs and finished in the top 8. How can they drop to 10th? And look at all of the schools with more than 1 loss.
GA.Girl
December 14th, 2009
7:30 pm
Player of the year Blake Sims!!!!!!
BigB
December 14th, 2009
7:37 pm
@Sailor – Are serious, Gainesville’s Principal said that? LMAO!
Back to the Peach County game – Gainesville’s coach did right by going for two in my opinion and he may have talked it over with the players prior to the play. I was sitting behind that team after my Trojans beat them and although they were somber, there appeared to be no second-guessing from any of them. My only question is why not ride your stallion (Blake Sims) for the final few yards. His arm may be shaky but that kid’s legs and avoidability are THE TRUTH!!! Well enough of those losers – HOW BOUT DEM TROJANS?!!! Luke Crowell should have been the MVP of the game. Don’t know where he will be playing in the Fall but that young man’s work ethic and desire proved to be more of a factor than the Notre Dame, Alabama and Tennessee recruits that Gainsville trotted out. That’s the epitome ofPeach County, we may not get all the press but we get the job done.
AA Region 6 Fan
December 14th, 2009
8:11 pm
Any large school needing a head coach, especially Valdosta, should offer it to Coach McWhorter from Charlton County without even interviewing anyone else. Very few, if any, coaches even begin to come close to getting out of their players what he and his staff do year after year after year. If he can produce the results he has playing up in AA for so long with less than 500 students, he certainly can do it at Valdosta which will be playing up in AAAAA the next two years. I’m sure Uncle Nick, my 8th and 9th grade coach at West Rome, would approve, if he could. Why go out of state looking for a “proven” winner when someone like Coach McWhorter who understands true South Georgia Football is a few miles away, and has, at times, played Lowndes and Camden County more competitively than has Valdosta?
NORTHSIDE
December 14th, 2009
8:13 pm
If u were there, then u saw northside give the game away, thats football anything can happen , with a kick return to start, and a punt return shortly after, and five turnovers all for camden for christmas, gave them state.
SWD
December 14th, 2009
8:28 pm
Jaybo SWD had one of the best teams in Georgia this year and furthermore Todd Holcomb is entitled to his opinion. I f He feels SWD is number 5 we are number 5 in his book. Just because you advance further in the postseason doesn’t make you better than a team you didn’t face. That is like saying because Griffin didnt make it to the dome Clarke Central is better than them. Its not necessarily true.
spwhite
December 14th, 2009
9:02 pm
Can anyone tell me if there is a limit to the number of players a team can have? I noticed at the dome that a lot of the a thru aaaa teams had just as many players as a lot of aaaaa teams. Just curious, thanks.
By the way, the wing t still rules GA.
patriot
December 14th, 2009
9:20 pm
Nick Marshal for all-classification best player in the state!!!!!!!
WHO DID HE BEAT?
The undefeated defending state champion as well as two other undefeated teams in the five game playoff format. Not shabby for a junior!
WHAT DID HE DO?
Engineered three fourth quarter comebacks against three teams in the playoffs.
WHAT DID HE DO IN CHAMPIONSHIP GAME?
This was one of his fourth quarter comebacks, and he broke Savannah Christian’s heart as he alluded tacklers to complete THREE two point conversions.
Mark Ledford for all-classification coach of the year!!!!
WHAT DID HE DO?
Not enough space here to tell! Savannah Christian had twelve coaches listed in the GHSA program. It was Ledford and four other coaches against those numbers. Ledford cant even play a home playoff game because Clack Stadium in Rochelle doesnt seat enough fans to qualify as a playoff field. In the final game for the championship he went for two those three times and made it every time. Peach County won only because Gainesville could not make one two point conversion. He plays with players from one of the poorest counties in the state with less than 400 total students. The county has tractors, cotton, peanuts, and lately plays a little high school football. Ledford is a Wilcox native because nobody elso wants the job or would be willing to live in “an out of the way place”.
Ledford keeps reloading supposedly when his best players have gone. Alphonso Dennard to Nebraska after 2007 title loss to ECI.
rayjj
December 14th, 2009
9:22 pm
nick marshall is the player of the year.no doubt.
jackie johnson
December 14th, 2009
9:30 pm
patriots are # 1!!!!! going back to back . see you next year!!!!
ATL Dawg
December 14th, 2009
9:56 pm
Lowndes is still a bunch of punks and thugs – classless! I hope Valdosta does hire a great coach down there and start whipping the mighty Vikings again. I remember the Valdosta Wildcats under Nick Hyder was the classiest bunch of kids I had ever witnessed. McPherson at Lowndes must teach his kids to be thugs because they act and play like punks. Go GRAYSON RAMS!!
TRUE BLUE
December 14th, 2009
10:54 pm
DEKALB COUNTY HEAD COACHES MAKES $ 6,800.00 AND JAG FAN WHAT COACH IN HIS RIGHT MIND WOULD WANT TO COACH IN DEKALB COUNTY. FIRST OF ALL WHAT SCHOOL HAS LIGHTS ON THEIR FOOTBALL FIELD. SECOND WHAT SCHOOL IN THE DEKALB HAS THEIR ON STADIUM AND FINALLY WHAT SCHOOL IN THE DEKALB COUNTY HAS BOOSTER CLUB WITH SIX A FIGURE BUDGET. THE PROBLEM IN DEKALB IS IN THE COMMUNITY. YOU PEOPLE BLAME GARTRELL FOR EVERYTHING AND YES HE HUMAN. TO ME GARTRELL IS NOT THE PROBLEM. HE MIGHT BE PART OF THE PROBLEM, BUT YOUR KID HAVE TO WANT TO WIN. THE SEASON START IN JANUARY WITH WORKOUTS AND IN THE SUMMER WITH WORKOUTS. THE COACHES DOESN’T HAVE TO BE WITH YOU TO WORKOUT. IN MY 4 YEARS AT STEPHENSON I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY WR AND QB WORKOUT WITHOUT THE COACHES. WINNERS WORKOUT WHILE OTHERS PLAYS PLAYSTATION OR XBOX 360. CHAMPIONS GO BEYOND THE CALL OF DUTY. YOU WORK TO GET BETTER. THE COACH DOESN’T HAVE TO BE IN YOUR PRESENT TO GET BETTER. YOU WORKOUT TO GET BETTER.I WATCH THE COLQUITT COUNTY GAME TO AND WHAT I SAW AS A PARENT WAS PART OF IT COACHES AND THE OTHER PART MENTAL AND NOT PLAYING YOUR RESPONSIBILITY ERRORS AS PLAYERS. I STILL CAN’T SEE A PLAYER DRIBBLING THE BALL AND FAKING OUT 5 PLAYERS WITH NO BLOCKS AND GO STRAIGHT UP THE SIDELINE. THATS NOT COACHING JAG FAN. THATS PLAYERS NOT PLAYING THEIR RESPONSIBILITY. FUNDERMENTAL WIN FOOTBALL GAME NOT TALENT.
JayBo
December 14th, 2009
11:10 pm
SWD
I love Buck Godfrey and how he has impacted so many young men throughout his career. Now I was talking to Todd first of all. You mean to tell me his rankings are his opinion??? For real??? Wow, thanks for that revelation because I really didn’t know that!!! Come on, be for real, I am keenly aware that rankings are subjective entity. I do know that a SWD team who got ousted from the playoffs in the 2nd round by a less talented team, should not be ranked higher than a team who made it to the quarter finals…that is just logical!!!!
JayBo
December 14th, 2009
11:18 pm
SWD,
One more thing, chill out with that “SWD was one of the best teams in Ga” garbage!!!! You need your blogging card snatched away from you making such a statement about a team who could not win but one game in the playoffs…you heard me!!!!!!….one game!! And SWD was one of the best teams in Ga…plueeze!!!!! Just because you are a great team on paper doesn’t make you great!! You have to get it done on the field and certainly win more than one playoff game if you to be considered as great!!!!
Northside Observer
December 14th, 2009
11:20 pm
SouthGaRules: A big thanks to you patriot for giving recognition to those of us who served. Please, continue to pray for our boys to come home safely. It was great chatting with you this year. Now that NSWR is going to AAAAA, I am a bit sad because we have what it takes to stay in 5A. We are 80 students short (1820) so I still wish a mirale will change the heart of our Superindent to partition the GHSA to let us stay in 1AAAAA. Personally, I believe the GHSA put us in a very bad travel region i.e. 1AAAA to force our hands to play up. Just my belief!
To; mistermak, vikingfan, yo, slalom 1, sportsfan31313, jaybo, headeast, white trash, wildcat fan, go ug, and others, thanks for a wonder time on this blog.
Todd Holcomb:
One final thing, when NSWR beats TCC (Jaybo-lol) for the 2010 AAAA championship and that being their third in the decade—–would NSWR be team of the decade for AAAA?
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JayBo
December 14th, 2009
11:29 pm
I heard the announcer on GPTV say that Camden has over 20 assistant coaches….where do they get the money to pay so many coaches??? Will someone from Camden answer this?? Congrats on your championship.
mistermak
December 14th, 2009
11:34 pm
Don’t forget that Camden lost to Grayson due to a bad coaching call. Remember Camden was up 10-7 with 7 minutes to go in the game. It was 4th and a long 2 on their own 40 and the coach decided to go for it with a QB sneak. The problem was that the QB at the time was a 5ft nothing little dude that did not have a chance up against that DL. If Herron punts the ball and makes Grayson drive the length of the feild, it could have been a very different result. I blasted him for that call then and I still do now. But since he won the title, all that has been forgotten and his angel wings keep on growing in Camden.
JayBo
December 14th, 2009
11:35 pm
Northside Observer,
I am not that excited about you guys coming to our region…I just hope we can compete!! I do know that we have a lot coming back as do you guys. Well, NS might beat TCC, but please don’t run us off the field…LOL!!! Happy Holidays my friend!
EagleNationRising
December 15th, 2009
12:07 am
Jaybo: In the off season, you should embrace saying a couple of names. One is Northside. I know you already know those words. You had your eye fixated on our great program a few years ago. Then, of course, as you were inaccurately comparing the winning traditions of Northside to Thomas County Central, your boys from TCC were getting Peachtree Ridged by Ware County at home.
I highly encourage you to remain focused on everyone joining the party, especially a Middle Georgia program with 4 State Championships and 2 National Championships. If you believe that Region 1-AAAA is going to be a two team party, you are fooling yourself. I promise you that Warner Robins HS will have a big say in the conversation. I expect Houston County will be heard too against program like TCC and Lee County.
Houston County schools played in the second highest classification for a four season run this decade. Every season saw a Warner Robins high school program in the AAAA State Championship. These are FACTS Jaybo. It started in 2004. In that season, Warner Robins won the State Championship. In the following season, Northside lost in the State Championship at Statesboro. Northside won the State Championship in 2006 & 2007. Ironically, TCC was NEVER in that conversation. NEVER. Let’s have a small dose of reality here Jaybo. Proclaiming that Northside and TCC are going to be the top 2 teams in Region 1-AAAA before the season even starts is very disrespectful to one of the premiere programs, Warner Robins, in this state and this nation. Warner Robins has a State Championship this decade. Warner Robins has 2 National Championships. Ironically, TCC has ZERO State Championships this decade and have NEVER sniffed a National Championship.
Show some respect Jaybo or some respect is going to be forced upon you.
Roll your eyes. Warner Robins is MUCH better than you think, if you are going on record proclaiming that Region 1-AAAA is set for Northside, 1, and TCC, 2 in 2010. We are to assume that you are saying Northside 1 and TCC 2. Right?
I say Northside or Warner Robins 1. Northside or Warner Robins 2. TCC 3. Houston County 4….if TCC is lucky. After playing for years in Region 1-AAAAA, what do you think playing a program like TCC is going to be like to players from Warner Robins and Houston County. Give us a break! HoCo may have gone winless against the likes of Lowndes County, Valdosta, Northside, Warner Robins, and Colquitt County. That means that the Bears should be primed to beat a program like TCC. What are you guys at TCC, just over 0.500 for your program’s history?
You have already started with the jokes for 2010. Northside and TCC 1, 2.
That is one of the funniest posts that I have read in weeks.
Warner Robins will VIOLATE Thomas County Central. Watch. You know what Northside is going to do in AAAA, Jaybo. Every poster on this blog knows.
EagleNationRising
December 15th, 2009
12:24 am
AvikingFan: I look forward to seeing you in the years to come. Please keep us posted on the Valdosta hire. The program at Independence HS has been very successful in North Carolina. That should be interesting. As for Northside playing up, I have no interest as a Northside fan in our program playing anywhere except where our local programs play. In that, I mean Warner Robins, Houston County, Veterans HS, Perry, and Westside-Macon.
With the exception of Lowndes County, I was not impressed at all with the fan support in Region 1-AAAAA. I believe that the schools are spread too far apart from one another. There is no way that Northside made more money as an athletic program playing in this region. With fuel costs, it was not worth the trouble.
Our programs make money and play in front of full houses against local programs. My ideal region would include four high schools from Warner Robins (Northside, Warner Robins, Houston County, & Veterans), Perry HS, Westside-Macon, Baldwin (Milledgeville), Washington County, and Peach County. That would require Baldwin, Washington County, and Peach County to play up from AAA. However, it would be a money making bonanza. By the way, Perry is not AAAA, but the school system will make all five county high schools AAAA enrollment over the next 3-4 years.
A Northside versus Peach County game will draw twice as many fans as a Northside vs. Colquitt, Coffee, or Valdosta game. We have a big stadium and our athletic program benefits from having big draw football games. Is it an honor to be a part of a region that many observers view as the best in America? Yes. Of course Is that region the best in America without Northside and Warner Robins? No way! I know it and you know it too.
As much as I am going to tease Jaybo, I believe that Thomas County Central is every bit as good as Valdosta, Tift County, and Coffee. TCC has GREAT tradition and they will always have great players. I do not see any benefit to Northside HS in playing up. We do not have enough local schools to make it worth our time considering all of the travel involved. Those people calling for Northside to play in Region 1-AAAAA obviously have no idea about the travel strains that the Region saddled our programs with. It is not the same as the metro Atlanta regions separated by county.
For football, it is easy. The team travels on Friday night. In other sports and activities, you are asking people to travel up to three hours during the week…on a school night. For what? For an empty stadium when you host a historic program like Valdosta. For what? 2,000 fans, including the band coming up from Coffee or Tift County. Forget that. When we play Peach County, 7,000+ paying fans are coming over from Ft. Valley to see the big game. They pack our football stadiums, basketball gyms, and baseball diamonds. I will take the Middle Georgia rivalries on anyday and the money that we get with big gates. I will watch Region 1-AAAAA and cheer from the sidelines. Sorry AVikingFan. I do not believe we get out of Region 1-AAAAA, what Region 1-AAAAA got from programs like Northside and Warner Robins being in the region.
blu eagle
December 15th, 2009
1:38 am
Again congrats to Camden, a big thank you to NSWR for a good season, I got to take my daughter to the Newnan game and she got to see for the first time big time high school football as she goes to a small school in Lindale. It was so much fun for us and the memories would not have been possible without the great fan bases we saw that night. To all teams this year, thanks for all the great memories, and more to come next year! GO EAGLES!
travrob
December 15th, 2009
1:38 am
WELL I FEEL BAD FOR CLASS A NEXT YEAR….CHARLTON COUNTY IS COMING BACK!!!!!!!!!!!
ADVISOR
December 15th, 2009
8:53 am
I will never understand the HATE out there for Stephenson …Even though they went out in the 2nd round you’re ranking them #8 …We have 16 players headed towards D1 colleges …maybe an additional 9 …then you dis us further by not ranking Raymond Sanders as the Greatest Back in Georgia H/S History …What’s with you people …One call our way …one less mistake …We’re State Champs …State Champs or not you should still give us our just Due …WE’re the best Team …the best program in the State…
camden county wildcat
December 15th, 2009
10:00 am
i dont know if yall remembered me from the beginning of the year when i was saying that grayson was not the best team in the state. didnt i garentee that camden was gonna win another championship. yall didnt believe me but the boys in the blue got it done this year. i dont know what happened to grayson this year, but i told yall if we would of had our squad we would have beat yall….but now we have two rings now back to back! i dont see the grayson fans on here anymore, and to the whole state whats the excuse now about camdens weak region, what yall dont understand, it depends upon how you finish! but i guess next year we will have to hear the same ol trash talking again about how we play in a weak region, but we showed yall this year, we beat all the good teams from region one this year, so what do yall have to saynow, plus we ran over poor ol north gwinett at thier place, so what do you have to say about camden now, plus next year is gonna be another big year for my boys again so beware of the mighty wildcats again. and tell grayson to get a championship before yall compare yallsevles to us again…..
ByStander
December 15th, 2009
10:07 am
I believe that nick marshall should be the POY, this kid carried his team all year, not only is he the states top qb but he was also a shutdown corner when his team needed it, he had 6ints, 2 of which he returned for td’s, if the award was still up for grabs pending the championship games then is has to be marshall, he was the best player in the dome hands down!!!
plowboy
December 15th, 2009
10:21 am
Congratulations to Camden County…you guys deserve it….can`t wait til next year , now it`s time to see where all the Athletes are going to play FOOTBALL…hopefully UGA…
Reeze
December 15th, 2009
10:42 am
Jaybo……..Calm down kid!…….other than the travel issues Northside ,Warner Robins ,TCC and Bainbridge Football in the same region should be a lot of fun…..Hopefully Northside’s first game vs TCC will take place at the Nest……Baseball should be a blast with Lee County ,TCC ,Harris County , Northside Columbus and the 3 up Coming Houston County schools ( remember Northside made it to the qrts in AAAAA and shut out Pope in the first game)…..just imagine the seeds coming out of Region 1 -AAAA in Baseball.
SportsFan31313
December 15th, 2009
11:24 am
AvikingFan, & EagleNationsRising,
In case you two didn’t know, Former head Coach and Athletic Director Rick Tomberlin will be the next Head Football Coach at Effingham County High School. He will NOT be the Athletic Director though. That is a Savannah area team where he will the head Coach. I am very happy that he was given another opportunity to Coach again. There are 23 more open slots I believe for Coaching here in Georgia High Schools across the state.
sponk
December 15th, 2009
11:24 am
I guess you guys are still wondering who’s the best back in Ga.? You would have to be on another planet to not say 8AAA player of the “Git Aikens!” What other back in ANY region rushed for over 1800 yds. this season? I’ll wait……. no one. You guys better start checking outside the 285 perimeter. For the last 2 yrs. the AAA champions have been having to beat Eastside High School to be the champs ( Cairo, and Peach Co.)! But we’re only ranked 6? You guys amaze me, we’ll be back cause we were plagued with sophomores and juniors and you see how close we came! Shout out to my FAVORITE back….GIT AIKENS! P.S. watch out for Alcovy’s TRE DEUCE too, Damn he’s good (soph.)!
JayBo
December 15th, 2009
11:32 am
Reeze,
What the heck are you talking about boy??? I guess you’re still hurting over the way NS choked!!!! You are acting real sensitive boy!!!!
JayBo
December 15th, 2009
12:09 pm
mouth run off from NS,
It amazes me that you have soooo much to say now, but jus a day or so ago you had nothing to say when NS got drug by Camden!!!!! In fact your mighty NS put up the POOREST SHOWING of any team in the dome!!!! NS got peachtree ridged(can’t believe I quoted you b/c your words are such garbage 2 me) blew off the field!!! You brushed the lost off after you had talked soooo much trash…but I knew that a weakling such as yourself would do just that!!! Comment on the blowout lost for me first, then you can talk about other issues!!!
Now, as far as my TCC comments, I will not back down from them one bit!!! We will finish in the top 2 in the region…I’m not disrespecting any program, I just know what kind od team we will have next year. Finally, every team has spurts of long runs and then droughts. TCC had its run in the 90’s and we won count ‘em 5 STATE TITLES!!!!! Where was NS then???? Tell me how many titles did you win in the 90’s??????? Ok we move to this decade and TCC has no titles, but played in two semifinals and one campionship game…but you know me, that means nothing to me b/c IMO its state title or bust!! As for the great NS, you have, count ‘em 2 titles this decade and several chokes. Hey, when comparing NS to TCC I will say this…the 90’s was our decade, the 2000’s has been NS’s. However, what you’ve done in the 2000’s CAN NOT TOUCH WHAT TCC DID IN THE 90’s…end of discussion!!! But lastly fallen and hurting NS fan, I hope you get over the embarassment and grief that your eagles caused you on the big stage. Everybody I’ve talked to have asked me “man did you see how Camden beat the brakes off NS in the dome?” I said yea and the great CONRAD NIX looked confused didn’t he??? LMBO!!!!
pity poor monroe area
December 15th, 2009
1:02 pm
@ADVISOR – whoa, man, have you been smoking the same stuff as SWD, and can I please have some??? Stephenson regularly rolls through the regular season (I saw them dismantle mighty Columbia 68-0), then is FOREVER one-and-done or two-and-through come playoff time. The best program in the STATE? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! Get serious, dude!! Sanders is good, but the best in GA HS history?? Not even on the top 10, brother……(hey, Todd, there’s a slot for another ranking to p*** a bunch of people off!!)
“One call our way”…”one less mistake”…your own words negate your argument. One less mistake is the difference between winners and losers. When Stephenson can at least get to the third round, then maybe we’ll all reconsider. But probably not.
Northside Observer
December 15th, 2009
2:20 pm
Sportsfan 31313: That is a good move on Tomberlin’s part. There are Effingham Cty and South Effingham Schools. Both will greatly benefit from the new auomobilie plant that will bring hundreds of new jobs and people.to the county. I am sure Tomberlin saw a building opportunity in the making. A hint that the current AD is leaving within a certain time could also be a draw.
I miss coastal Georgia.
SportsFan31313
December 15th, 2009
3:34 pm
Greetings Northside Observer,
Yes it is a good move. Tomberlin does have a few State titles under his belt from Washington County. he will definitely turn that program around. Effingham County was Bradwell Institute warm games in the season before we played some of the tougher teams.
He will definitely bring to the new Region 2-AAAA some competition soon enough. It’s hard trying to be a Coach in Winnersville (Valdosta) where he was Coaching at Valdosta when you use to having a solid football program in prior years. But I am happy for him, and I wish him the best.
Ace
December 15th, 2009
3:36 pm
Buford gets NO respect because of how they do it. Fitz is a real AA school with a real good team, where the size comes and goes. Recruit in a county that size not much different, recruit in a milllion people county, well you get a stacked team that wins, but NO respect if they win every game forever. Paid for. No hate, just sympathy because its just pathetic.
Todd Holcomb
December 15th, 2009
3:43 pm
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Todd Holcomb
December 15th, 2009
3:48 pm
Re: Gainesville going for two: I hope you guys don’t seriously believe that Coach Miller didn’t know there would be no ties in state finals. He knew there would be overtime. He felt his chances of winning the game by going for two were better than winning in OT, especially given that OT was certain only if Gainesville made the PAT. I don’t have a problem w/ the call. Coaches have a pretty good gut feel for their chances in situations like that, IMO.
Southside: It doesn’t mean much to me that North Clayton beat five playoff teams compared to Marist’s three because none of those five teams were as good as Tucker, which Marist beat 32-7. There’s no reason to think Marist would not have beaten all five. What it comes down to is this: Dutchtown. You believe that North Clayton should be given a pass for that because it was a meaningless game and because six starters did not play. I respect that point of view. But my philosophy consistently has been that I don’t care about ‘’why’’ teams win and lose. That’s because it’s impossible for me or anyone to know the ‘’why’’ behind every single game that is played. And ‘’why’’ a team wins or loses is subjective. Lots of teams played so-called meaningless games in the regular season. My view is that it’s inadmissible evidence. You don’t have to agree with that philosophy, but I hope you can respect it. One other point. There are a couple of computer rankings that I check out while doing my own rankings. One of them is Massey, which is one of the six that does the BCS rankings. The other is the Maxwell Ratings. Both rank Marist higher than North Clayton. That doesn’t prove that Marist deserves to be ranked higher. But it does prove that an entirely objective analysis of scores and wins and losses and schedule can conclude that Marist should be ranked higher than North Clayton. Like me, the computers don’t care why North Clayton lost to Dutchtown.
“Swainsboro had 2 losses on the season……and those came from #3 (Fitzgerald) and #5(Jefferson County) in the state….the loss to #3 coming in the 2nd round of the playoffs and we aren’t in the Top 10 in the state in AA? The blatant disrespect for South Georgia schools still exists I see.”
You make a good point that Swainsboro had ‘’good’’ losses, but so did the rest of the teams that I ranked. What were Swainsboro’s best wins? Westminster beat Buford. Thomasville beat Thomas County Central. The best team that Swainsboro beat was maybe McIntosh County Academy or Vidalia. Not quite the same.
“I would love to be able to compare the stats of Connor Shaw, Blake Sims, and the QB from Wilcox County. It would also be nice to compare the stats of some of the great running backs across the state, or even some of the defensive stars. Who (if anyone) keeps track of this information?”
No, there is no Web site like that. Schools aren’t even required to keep stats, though most do. Here are some approximate numbers:
Sims 2,300 passing (150 of 260), 28 TD, 11 INT; 850 rushing, 13 TD. Probably 2 return TDs.
Marshall: 2,950 passing, 33 TD, 14 INT. He missed at least one game.
Shaw: 3,036 yards with 30 TD, 6 INT. 76 percent completion ratio. Rushed for 793 yards and 18 TDs.
Hey AJC: I’d be happy to address your comments, but I honestly don’t know what you’re trying to say. Can you try again?
Re: Apalachee – I probably shouldn’t say this, but I don’t think Apalachee is the fourth-best team in the state, but if you look at their bottom-line wins and losses, it’s hard not to conclude that they were not the #4 team. Both computer rankings that I’ve seen put Apalachee at #3.
“You ranked the losing team 2nd in every classification except AAAA….something is very wrong with that picture!!! The AJC had anointed Griffin or SWD as the champions in AAAA, but when it didnt happen, you arrange your final rankings in a way that reflects your aphixation with those teams. No way should Griffin be #2….should be Clark Central…just be consistent”
Jaybo: Do you really believe that I put Griffin at No. 2 to save face for picking SWD or Griffin to win the title? There was a point when I picked Fitzgerald to win AA. To be consistent, wouldn’t I have put Fitzgerald at No. 2 to save face? I also picked Wesleyan to win Class A. Why wouldn’t I put Wesleyan at No. 2 and Savannah Christian at No. 3 to save face? I can understand if you say the runner-up should always be No. 2. That’s an honest disagreement. But what you’re really saying is that my ego is more important than my desire to be objective and professional.Reminds me of that song, “If you don’t know me by now, you will never, never really know me … ”
“The problem I have is that Jackson was ranked 7th before the playoffs and finished in the top 8. How can they drop to 10th? And look at all of the schools with more than 1 loss”
The playoffs give us a lot more information about strength of schedule and strength of region. And yes, Jackson had one loss. Jackson also played the weakest schedule of any ranked team in AAA.
“SWD had one of the best teams in Georgia this year and furthermore Todd Holcomb is entitled to his opinion. I f He feels SWD is number 5 we are number 5 in his book. Just because you advance further in the postseason doesn’t make you better than a team you didn’t face. That is like saying because Griffin didnt make it to the dome Clarke Central is better than them. Its not necessarily true.”
Right on, SWD! …
“Can anyone tell me if there is a limit to the number of players a team can have? I noticed at the dome that a lot of the a thru aaaa teams had just as many players as a lot of aaaaa teams. Just curious, thanks.”
No limit that I’m aware of.
““One final thing, when NSWR beats TCC (Jaybo-lol) for the 2010 AAAA championship and that being their third in the decade—–would NSWR be team of the decade for AAAA?”
Too late. Decade is over! …
ATL Dawg
December 15th, 2009
3:50 pm
LOWNDES still SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AVikingFan
December 15th, 2009
4:50 pm
EagleNationRising – I served on the Lowndes Bd of Edu for 8 years, so I know about the expenses with traveling, when one considers all sports. I completely agree with your analysis as to why Northside should stick with the other Houston County teams. It would be foolish not to.
I also agree with the advice you gave Jaybo, who is I’m sure a fine young man to my immediate west, about not overlooking Warner Robions. I mean afterall, the Demons were the county champs this year right? And Coach McPherson firmly thinks they were the best region opponent we faced this year. But, and this is a big BUT, it appears that WR’s team was loaded with seniors. Had WR remained in AAAA they may well have been state champs! But even so, WR should finish no worse than 3rd in it’s new region. Bainbridge may grow into being a player there also, with their good coaching staff, and may even push TCC to 4th place. (Sorry Jaybo)
(BTW, what is it with ATL Dawg? Does he know a single player who suits up for Lowndes, or a single coach, or fan? I assure you, Lowndes had some of the finest young men on its team this year I have ever had the priviledge and honor to meet!)
SWD
December 15th, 2009
5:02 pm
Jaybo STFU TCC didn’t win STATE EITHER so what were you saying. First of all Jaybo Thomas County Central is not the worth the feces on a horses backside. Talk to me next year if TCC makes a run for state. Yes we lost in the second round okay your point you lost in the third so what are you really saying you werent runners up and you weren’t semi-finalists so whats all this secound round talk you were gone a week later.
JayBo
December 15th, 2009
5:12 pm
Avinking,
I am not overlooking anybody sir. Why is it I have to be disrespecting or overlooking somebody b/c I have an opinion??? I am keenly aware that many variables will be involved in the way next season unfolds. However, I still believe (key word is I) that TCC will finish in the top two in the region. I am not worried about no WR, Bainbridge or anybody else for that matter!!! And again, thats no disrespect to those teams. All I know is we have 8 starters returning (including all skill positions) on offense and 7 returning starters on defense…needless to say, I think TCC will compete a lil bit!!
JayBo
December 15th, 2009
5:14 pm
AViking, sorry for misspelling your name….I can spell a lil bit!
JayBo
December 15th, 2009
5:25 pm
SWD,
The difference youngster is this: SWD was picked to win it all, TCC wasnt even expected to win its region with so many young players in the starting lineup. However, my young Jackets grew up quick, won region and made it to the quarter finals!!! Meanwhile, your team that was picked and anointed to be the champs choked in the 2nd round of the playoffs. One program had high expectations(SWD) and the other none whatsoever(TCC). So I understand why you are soo hurt and dissapointed, b/c you didn’t believe that your SWD would choke yet again…listen to me good…SWD CHOKED AGAIN!!!! End of story…talk to you next season b/c this season is a done deal. Hopefully, you guys wont choke again, but you had a lot of seniors soooo…….
VIKING DAD
December 15th, 2009
5:35 pm
Rumor around Valdosta is that Camden’s Off. Coor. will be offered the job at Valdosta.
slalom1
December 15th, 2009
6:07 pm
What coach in his right mind would take the Valdosta job? Like “YO” stated, “The Valdosta head coaching job is a death sentence.” I love the great city of Valdosta along with their passionate fans. Been to more than one Valdosta Touchdown Club get together. But come on guys. This is about to be 2010. Valdosta will never be the state and national powerhouse from year to year as they once were. Enrollment approx 1850 while going up against Lowndes with an enrollment of around 2700 and Gwinnett County schools even larger. Still, I understand the pride and the tradition of being a “Wildcat”. During the 1970’s, 80’s and even 90’s the top teams in the state’s largest classification were: Valdosta, Lowndes, Clarke Central, McKeachern, Colquitt County, Tift County, LaGrange, Newnan, SW Dekalb,Morrow, Griffin, Warner Robins,etc. Notice I did not include Northside WR, Camden County, Grayson,Parkview, Brookwood, N. Gwinnett,and a handful of others.
Point is, be realistic of your expectations. You no longer own south Georgia, nor even Gwinnett County. The firing of Coach Tomberlin is yet another “black eye” on the once great Valdosta machine.
rwdekalbfan
December 15th, 2009
6:25 pm
Wow it is amazing how even after witnessing the way some of the teams won their state titles this year, (Sandy Creek), (Camden County), and even (Buford) some teams still think that just because they are returning a lot of seniors or they have some outstanding individual players or they are moving down in classification that they will have a lock on the state title next year. It takes hard work, team work, good coaching, community support, talent especially at the skill positions and some good old fashion luck, to win a state title. There were several 1,2,3 point losses in the playoffs this year. There were some very good teams that lost this year. But Sandy Creek, Camden County, and yes Buford should be an inspiration to all teams out there as well as the other champions because they had all of those key ingredients even though as the playoffs began none were considered a lock to win it all.
GO UG!
December 15th, 2009
6:42 pm
I am going to go out on a limb here and make my prediction for next year. Union Grove will finish in the top ten for our region!
JayBo
December 15th, 2009
6:44 pm
Todd,
Can you give us your top 10 projections for 2010…Of course I’m only concerned about AAAA??
patriot grad
December 15th, 2009
8:03 pm
sooo gllad the creek was able to shut all the doubters up i graduated 09 dang im proud of yall felt like i won that one wit yall
pity poor monroe area
December 15th, 2009
8:04 pm
My predictions for 2010:
1 Camden will repeat.
2: Sandy Creek and Peach will not.
3: Monroe Area will drop down to 8-AAA from 8-AAAA, go 1-9 and no one outside the school will care. Again.
Prediction for 2010??
December 15th, 2009
8:05 pm
Camden will once again dominate their pseudo-AAAAA region of AAA teams.
pity poor monroe area
December 15th, 2009
8:06 pm
Hey Todd – what about the earlier suggestion tucked into my rant – how about a top 15 ranking of best HS RBs out of GA? (not that you have anything else to do….
CAMDENCOAST
December 15th, 2009
8:30 pm
Thanks to all those posters congratulating Camden on the state championship. It has been a great season for every one that enjoys Georgia high school football on friday nights, no matter what team is yours. I hate that the season is over….now we have to wait until August. it is a shame that the Atlanta schools are scared to play us again in the Kell Classic at the Dome, but I’m sure we will find someone else to play. Todd, even though you cought alot of grief all year, I thought you did a fine job. Signing off till spring training starts.
camden fan
December 15th, 2009
8:47 pm
I would be very suprised if coach Coffee took the head spot at Valdosta. I have known him for a few years now and what he is about is what Camden is about. These coaches(most of them) at Camden have an outlet like no other to influence these kids lives. It is not about winning or losing on the football field for him its about having a positive influence on these kids each and every day(of course the winnning makes it all the better). I guess what Im saying is you would have to be here to understand and would have to know Coach Coffee to understand what he is looking for and the Valdosta way IMO is not what he is all about. Take it for what it is worth.
Inglorious Basterd
December 15th, 2009
9:14 pm
I’d rank PRidge over NGwinnett and Stephenson, even with their 3 losses. At least they played a stronger Camden team head to head last yr while NG went and got SHUT OUT on their home field. NG was arguably better this year than the last, and Camden isn’t the Camden of last yr. No doubt they deserve to be #1 though. congrats Wildcats fans.
spwhite
December 15th, 2009
9:30 pm
My predictions for next year.
1. Everyone will start whinning about how Camden plays in a weak region about a month before the playoffs begin forgetting all about how our defense gave up less points per game in the playoffs against nationally ranked oppenents, then we did during the regular season.
2. Two weeks before the playoffs people will start using the excuse that Camden’s schedule prevents the players from injuries.
3. Most everyone raises cain because Todd Holcomb picks against their team.
GO UG!
December 15th, 2009
9:40 pm
“IF” Stephenson would have had better coaching they would have had a chance to beat Camden or at least kept it real close. They absolutely had the talent. Now before all the Camden posters bombard me with comments, Camden IS the 5A State Champions, they dominated and they looked great. Colquitt had a great team and played Camden really close. Stephenson had a lead on Colquitt before the surrendered it. You put NSWR, Colquitt, Lowndes, or Camden’s coach with Stephenson and no one beats them.
WarD@mnEagle...!
December 15th, 2009
10:17 pm
Wow, a few beers consumed with the anonymity of the internet and some folks spout some mighty brave piffle. As classy as the TCC players and coaches I have known over the years are, a couple fans on the internet remind me of “Sybil”. But it’s always great to see the Yellow Jackets on the field even though you’ve broken our hearts more than Bar Refaeli.
And our Northside brethren, we welcome you back to AAAA with open arms. Y’all are always a class act and unlike some from the southern part of our great state, we hold no malice. We just desire to play you on our humble field or a neutral site. See, we have our own home little playoff streak going and although you were fine hosts, we just desire to return the favor. And don’t be too hasty about predicting a Northside and Warner Robins final so soon. The AAAA playoffs are always a strange and wondrous time for all involved. However, welcome back and hope to see you after next Thanksgiving.
As for my 6AAAA brothers, I’ve never seen a real Tucker fan complain about anything. Heck, the Tucker kids just buckle their chin straps and hit and reload. Nobody wants to see Tucker on the field next year. And Tucker never needs motivation. 6AAAA is going to pay for Tucker’s alleged down year for a while. And this year, SWD was the biggest, meanest, most athletic team I have seen since, well honestly in a long, long time. It’s a shame some of their key players were injured and ill during their loss in the playoffs but that’s part of football. (And hats off to Clarke Central) But that loss takes nothing away from their great team or their season accomplishments. I guess someone would have to stepped up and played them to know how good they really were. As someone who did play SWD and get our backsides handed to us on our home field (which doesn’t happen often) they were a VERY good team.
Finally, Southside, all the props in the world to you and your North Clayton team. You are absolutely correct your team deserves everything you wrote. But why the hate toward Marist? We don’t denigrate you or any city/urban public school. As a matter of fact, Marist plays up two classifications (from AA to AAAA) to play in the DeKalb County school district and compete against schools twice our enrollment. We don’t complain, we compete. Moreover we didn’t drop down one or two classifications when the Tom Murphy rule was changed. (Of course some moron will post under me, “That’s because Marist recruits.” Well, if we “are” recruiting, we are doing a pretty poor job of it. We didn’t have a lineman over 230 this year and other than our kicker we may not have a kid sign a major college scholarship). So Southside, please take whatever ranking you desire, especially if you feel little ole Marist took something away from you. You deserve it. Because, yes we were knocked out in the second round by Apalachee, a good team. I really don’t know exactly how good since the officials decided to invent infractions during a playoff game. (The best example was six crack-back block calls against our “defense”. Yes, I said our Defense.) But that wasn’t the opposing team only a very imaginative crew. It is interesting how I learn something new and interesting every season. Heck, at least it’s not high school wrestling…
But Southside you and North Clayton take the #8 ranking or whatever ranking begins next year or the next and make it motivation and play the best darn football you can. Because over the many years Marist has learned as well as out friends at Tucker and SWD, and Northside and TCC, the only ranking that matters at the end of the year is #1. Rankings #2-#10 is lagniappe for teams that need it for their letter jackets. See Southside, at the beginning of the year “we” plan to play in the GA Dome and at the end of the year and if we didn’t play in that game we don’t hang a banner. Moreover if we don’t win, we don’t feel the sense of accomplishment set out by the history of those who played before us….The Long Blue Line.
Best of luck to you, Southside and the North Clayton team.
Congratulations to all the high school players who dared “enter the arena” this fall, the coaches, the parents, the officials (even the imaginative ones), the cheerleaders, the bands, the students, administrators, teachers, volunteers and all the folks who make the greatest sport in the history of the world happen. See you in 2010….
And thank you Todd Holcomb! You inform and entertain us from August to December and we appreciate you!
God Bless!
NORTHSIDE
December 15th, 2009
10:48 pm
Camcats we are 2 for 2 in 1992 camden 6 eagels 14, in 1999 camden 7 eagels 54 .we will meet again, until then be happy with your win….and stop smacking your lips..
Dekalb Watcher
December 15th, 2009
11:19 pm
Hey GO UG, you may not know this but coaching in Dekalb County is different, than coaching in Colquitt, Lowndes, NSWR, and Camden County. NO ONE in Dekalb has the huge coaching staffs those schools do, also take into account the Facilities for year round training those schools have. You cant make a fair comparison and say this coach would have done this, and this coach would have done that. Not when all things are not equal my friend. You have to remember this is Dekalb County, NOT Henry County which is what you are used to. It’s a completely different ballgame here in Dekalb, which is why a lot of TOP coaches dont even give first thought about coaching here, despite all the talent. We do have some TOP coaches here in Dekalb, Tucker has the best community support in all of Dekalb County, but even they don’t compare with what the other Boosters in other counties are able to do. We simply cant raise the kinds of money like our neighbors who aren’t under county rule can. Now do you still think it’s as easy as you make it sound???
WinderDogg
December 16th, 2009
7:54 am
The surprise of the 2009 AAAA Playoffs has to the showing by region 8AAAA. Clarke Central making to the title game, Rockdale County making it to the semifinals, and Apalachee making to the third round losing to to Griffin and Loganville lost in first round to state champion Sandy Creek. I’ve followed this region since 91 and this had to this region’s best showing in years congrats to this four teams and to all 5 state champions!
just facts
December 16th, 2009
8:31 am
i dont know if most of you care but there are no more co-champions. that was changed the year after peachtree ridge was a co-champ.
agree with NTH Trojans, i have a hard times with sims being player of the year when he wasnt even the best qb in hall county.
The Chee
December 16th, 2009
9:11 am
Very proud of the Apalachee and 8AAAA. 3 teams in the final top 10. Guess our region did not suck as all you Atlanta area homers said.
Tom Lotspeich
December 16th, 2009
9:46 am
Todd Holcomb, did you see any of Apalachee’s games? Every game I went to one side (offense or defense) played great and the other side played just good enough to win. Against Loganville & Storm Johnson, the defense didn’t stop Johnson all night until they had to. Loganville goes for 2 point conversion in OT & the “D” stood up! Great Year!
Rankings????
December 16th, 2009
9:46 am
GO UG!: Put the girls soccer coach at Redan as head football coach at Stephenson and they would still beat the he!! out of your pathetic Union Grove program. They always have and always will.
plowboy
December 16th, 2009
9:48 am
jaybo , you better ease up on all the smacktalk , because I watched the yellow jackets play this year and last year..you guys would have been a 4th seed if the houston county schools were playing in aaaa this past year…
Stephenson Jag
December 16th, 2009
9:53 am
GO UG
I agree with you totally. I have been a Stephenson supporter and fan since the school started. And honestlyit is the coaching that is keeping us from being the TOP program in the state! It’s the same thing every year we roll through the regular season and under achieve in the playoffs. We at Stephenson have to STOP making excuses ..yeah I know we don’t have the same resources or facilities than some of the bigger funded programs in the state but we make up the difference with the TALENT! I could see if we didn’t have the talent nor the resources the story would be different. But when you consistenly have D-1 talent and under achieve there’s a problem! Some major changes have to be made with the coaching staff a Stphenson..point blank! If it’s not the kids who could it be??!..The past few years in the playoffs..Stphenson has quite simply been out coached! As long as the Stephenson community sits back and doesn’t want change or make a change..expect the same results! I’m very optimistic that Stephenson could get a VERY GOOD coaching staff regardless of being in Dekalb County. We just have to start SPEAKING UP instead of settling. And 2-AAAAA will be one of the best regions in the state next year with Newnan, East Coweta, Westlake, and Langston Hughes joining the party..I don’t know much about MLK’s coaching staff but it seems coach Jarvis did a good job..MLK please go and get a GREAT COACH. It will be okay to hire someone who is NOT alumni,is not from Dekalb Co or the 285 and 20 east area..but MOST IMPORTANTLY has the kids BEST interest at heart and want to WIN!!! And this is coming from a Stephenson Jaguar.
Tom Lotspeich
December 16th, 2009
9:55 am
To The Chee, 3 of the final 8 is awesome! I must say I really did not think the Chee would go as far as they did! I must say though that I was a bit disappointed at the CHEE fans. No one, not even parents or students would start yelling for the team until it was 3 and long! Perhaps if the fans were behind them the whole time, they wouldn’t have had too many 3 & longs! Great job Coach Davis – should win coach of the year in AAAA.
Tom Lotspeich
December 16th, 2009
9:58 am
WinderDogg, I think all regions in every class should be set up to play a strickly region schedule like 8AAAA. Then there is no doubt as to who the region champion is.
THE CANNON RULES!!!
December 16th, 2009
10:03 am
Well another High School Football Season comes to an end for all of us…
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! to all of the AJC posters…
Say it Aint So
December 16th, 2009
10:18 am
Congrats to all! Now can we get on to some HS Basketball!
Todd Holcomb
December 16th, 2009
12:12 pm
“Can you give us your top 10 projections for 2010…Of course I’m only concerned about AAAA??”
I don’t have enough info yet on who’s returning what, but my guess is that Northside would be #1 and that Clarke Central, returning 14 starters, would be top 2-5. Warner Robins would figure to be top 10, also. Tucker had a very strong junior class this year and should be a big factor in ‘10. And I’ve been hearing TCC is loaded. ; )
“Hey Todd – what about the earlier suggestion tucked into my rant – how about a top 15 ranking of best HS RBs out of GA? (not that you have anything else to do.”
Charles Perkins
Rajion Neal
Ean Pemberton
Rajaan Bennett
Raymond Sanders
Mack Brown
Ken Malcome
Storm Johnson
Juwan Thompson
Ean Days
Isaiah Crowell
Clarence Jackson
Robert Brown
Ralph D. Abernathy
Who am I missing?
“Hey GO UG, you may not know this but coaching in Dekalb County is different, than coaching in Colquitt, Lowndes, NSWR, and Camden County. NO ONE in Dekalb has the huge coaching staffs those schools do, also take into account the Facilities for year round training those schools have. You cant make a fair comparison and say this coach would have done this, and this coach would have done that. Not when all things are not equal my friend. You have to remember this is Dekalb County, NOT Henry County which is what you are used to. It’s a completely different ballgame here in Dekalb, which is why a lot of TOP coaches dont even give first thought about coaching here, despite all the talent. We do have some TOP coaches here in Dekalb, Tucker has the best community support in all of Dekalb County, but even they don’t compare with what the other Boosters in other counties are able to do. We simply cant raise the kinds of money like our neighbors who aren’t under county rule can. Now do you still think it’s as easy as you make it sound???”
Lots of truth in this post, DeKalb Watcher.
JayBo
December 16th, 2009
12:50 pm
Yea Todd, TCC has 15 returning starters…8 on offense and 7 on defense!!!
JayBo
December 16th, 2009
12:57 pm
Plowboy,
Yea yea yea…I didnt talk much this past season b/c we were young…but if you think we would have been 4th in the region with the Houston co schools I need to give you some money so you can attend rehab b/c you are obviously smoking something more than cigaretts!!!!! The only Houston co school that concerns me is NS…thats it, period!!!!!!!!! Yea, I said it….see you all next season!!!
plowboy
December 16th, 2009
1:39 pm
jaybo only 3 quarters against lowndes 31-0 , need i go any further…ok i will 3 quarters lowndes vs warner robins 10-10, thru 3 quarters against northside 7-7… hey i like tcc have cousins there now and have played them in the past
Love High School Football
December 16th, 2009
1:41 pm
Stephenson Jag, Coach Jarvis did a great job during regular season, with the exception of the Stephenson game; however, it seems during the playoffs and big games like Stephenson he forgets how to call appropriate plays…he succombs to the hype!
pity poor monroe area
December 16th, 2009
1:48 pm
@ Tom L.: I’m not sure which Apalachee games you watched, but at the ones I saw, the home side was stoked and ready well before kickoff.The ‘Chee had a monster run this year, until they admittedly got chewed up by Griffin. Even then, the ‘Cats didn’t fold, they just got beaten by a team with better talent and blazing speed. And the point I made on some posts in earlier weeks was that Apalachee didn’t overwhelm too many people, but always (okay, until week 13), found a way to win. Doesn’t matter by how much, as long as you have one more point than the other guy when time expires. Apalachee’s players buckled up tight and traded blow for blow all year until the other guy blinked. That’s what wins ball games and wins region titles.
pity poor monroe area
December 16th, 2009
1:52 pm
8-AAAA ought to be loaded again next year. Clarke is back big time. Apalachee loses, I believe, its entire backfield, but had a lot of solid kids on both sides of the ball.Rockdale took us all by surprise (and beat CC in the regular season), and Loganville had gained some consistency in the last couple of ears. And you can never count out Habersham Central and Cedar Shoals. Should be interesting, and we’ll just have to prove once again that some mighty good football is played beyond the Gwinnett County line….
SportsFan31313
December 16th, 2009
2:29 pm
pity poor monroe area,
With all of those returning starters from Clarke Central, they will definitely be there, and force to be reckoned with. Heck, I would vote them to be pre-season ranked No 1. in Class AAAA.
WinderDogg
December 16th, 2009
3:35 pm
wdeagle,
I was at the Marist/Apalachee game and the referees did not call illegal crack back blocking penalties they called blocking below the knees, the defensive player cannot dive at the knees or lower to take out the player doing the offensive blocking new rule but still a rule to protect against injury.
I know that normally it’s Marist getting those calls but this time “NOT”!
Northside Observer
December 16th, 2009
3:55 pm
Jaybo: Wow! 8 offensive 7 Defensive starters returning for TCC. Okay, I doubt if NSWR will have to travel to deep south ga. twice. That is, to both TCC and Bainbridge, therefore, we will go to Bainbridge and TCC comes to WR. lol
I just saw where Harris County is partitioning the GHSA to play in another region. I second that! I have no desire to go to Pine Mlountain.
pity poor monroe area
December 16th, 2009
5:25 pm
WinderDogg:
Dead on with the illegal blocking calls at the Marist/Apalachee game I was there also and those were the penalties called against Marist. Several of them, as wdeagle said, but they weren’t crackback calls.
Hell of a game, too, I might add.
footballfan
December 16th, 2009
6:58 pm
Don’t yall find all this talk about TCC a bit boring…? I don’t get why Colquitt is behind Newnan. I can see why Lowndes is so high. Colquitt barely lost to Camden, Newnan got beat by Northside. Camden destroyed Northside. I personally feel like Colquitt was better than Northside. Especially at the end of the season.
NORTHSIDE
December 16th, 2009
7:19 pm
look football fan its over thats it u lost we have seen who was beter this year and it was not colquitt .
slalom1
December 16th, 2009
7:24 pm
For everyone who is saying “goodbye” until the 2010 season, do not forget that for all of us GHS football junkies, we still have the GHSFD. EVERY DAY. The season NEVER ends for the GHSFD. Thanks to TODD HOLCOMB for his committment and belief in the fans of GHS football. If you are not already on board, join up now.It is FREE!! This newsletter will give you something to look forward to every day regarding GHS football. Best wishes to all for a happy, safe Christmas.
To CandemCoast
December 16th, 2009
8:52 pm
FYI, Camden County has never played an Atlanta school in the Kell Classic.
ATL Dawg
December 16th, 2009
8:57 pm
A Viking Fan I know of plenty of your PUNKS that played on your team. Khari Frnaklin, Jordan Black, Telvin Smith, Tyler Hunter, Michael Copeland, etc, etc, …..you want me to name more of those THUGS and PUNKS I will be glad to do so. I watched all of those boys last year against my Grayson Rams when they lost control of themselves. They are a direct reflection of their coach Randy McPherson. I think he teaches it. What a classless program!
SouthGARules
December 16th, 2009
9:41 pm
Saw that Ean Pemberton gave a verbal to Austin Peay this week. Good for him & good luck to him with the Governors in Oak Ridge, TN. Pound for pound one of the toughest kids & a real privilege to watch him play the last 2 years on multiple occasions.
slalom1: Agree with you on the GHSFD, except its only Mon-Fri.
AVikingFan
December 16th, 2009
10:49 pm
Slalom1 – A very good post from you at 6:07pm 12-15-2009 above.
nukieie
December 16th, 2009
10:57 pm
“ATL Dawg” Let it go already..we all get it you don’t like Lowndes. Who cares what happened well over a year ago. As far as the “thug” thing that you keep refering to….WHY?… it sounds like a raciest comment to me. I assure you that if any action was needed it was taken by the coaches and school staff. Now there is no need to keep bring things tha NO one really cares about but you. GROW UP? You sound like a 12 year old. I will not respond to this any futher and I hope that you havfe the maturity not to try to aruge about the past….LET IT GO.
Reeze
December 17th, 2009
4:21 am
Slalom 1……..What’s your honest opinion of the Eagles performance against Camden
Reeze
December 17th, 2009
4:31 am
Jaybo……I think ENR is under your skin like Bot fly Maggots…Northside didn’t choke .They faced a much superior football team in Camden….Less the kickoff and punt returns ,it still would have been a blowout.The Eagles had a great season this year considering the talent level of this years team…The loss can only be taken on the chin like true champions.We will talk again in August.
Reeze
December 17th, 2009
6:37 am
All middle GA. football fans , here’s a good piece on the High School all-middle Georia team from the Macon Telegraph that can be voted in http://www.macon.com/decade
CAMDEN COUNTY WILDCAT!!!!!
December 17th, 2009
9:12 am
ONCE AGAIN I LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE HATERS WHO SAID CAMDEN WASNT GOOD ENOUGH TO MAKE THE RANKINGS OR WIN IT ALL THIS YEAR, JUST BECAUSE WE STARTED SLOW THAT DOESNT MEAN THAT WE ARE OUT OF IT..SO DONT EVER COUNT CAMDEN COUNTY OUT OF ANYTHING INTILL THE SEASON IS OVER..I TOLD YALL AFTER THE GRAYSON GAME WE LOST THAT WE WAS GONNA WIN IT ALL BECAUSE I SEEN THE CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM IN THE MAKING..I TOLD YALL GRAYSON WASNT A CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM BECAUSE THEY RELAY ON THEIR DEFENSE TOO MUCH TO WIN THEIR GAMES FOR THEM. PLUS THEIR OFFENSE WASNT ALL THAT GOOD AND PLUS I SEEN THEIR WEAKNESS IN THE DOMW BECAUSE THEY HAD A WEAK SECONDARY!!!! WE WAS A REAL YOUNG TEAM IN THE KORKY KELL CLASSIC, BUT I PROMISE YOU IF WE WAS TO MEET UP AGAIN WE WOULD HAVE BEAT GRAYSON, PLUS THE ONLY TEAM I CAN SHOW ALL OF MY RESPECT TO IS LOWNDES COUNTY…YALL WAS THE ONLY TEAM THAT I THOUGHT THAT COULD HAVE PUT CAMDEN OU TOF THE PLAYOFFS BUT IF IT WASNT FOR COACH HERRONS SMART MOVE BY KEEPING THE BALL WITH 9 MINUTES LEFT IN THE GAME BECAUSE IF LOWNDES WOULD HAVE GOT THE BALL BACK IT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENT BALL GAME, BUT TO STEPHENSON FAN TALKING ABOUT THE THEIR THE BEST PROGRAM IN THE STATE, WELL BEFORE YOU CAN SAY THAT, GET A CHAMPIONSHIP RING FIRST OR EVEN REACH THE TITTLE GASME BEFORE YOU CAN SAY YOU HAVE A COMPLETE PROGRAM…BUT EVERYTIME WE PLAY THEM WE DOMOLISH THEM SO YOU KNOW WE HAVE YOU GUYS NUMBER!!! BUT THIS YEAR WAS THE REBUILDING YEAR FOR CAMDEN COUNTY SO IMAGINE WHAT IS GONNA HAPPEN NEXT YEAR, BUT IT SUCKS THAT WE DONT START IN THE DOME AGAIN!!! BUT WATCH OUT AAAAA WE ARE BACK AGAIN NEXT YEAR TO DEFEND OUR TITTLE, BUT MARK MY WORDS, “WE WILL WIN THE AAAAA TITTLE ONCE AGAIN NEXT YEAR I GUARANTEE YOU GUYS THAT”!!!!! LETS MAKE IT A 3 PEAT!!!! AND TELL GRAYSON TO GET A CHAMPIONSHIP RING BEFORE YOU GUYS THINK THAT YALL ARE A GREAT PROGRAM!!! CAMDEN ALL DAY OVER HERE!!!!!
Patriotdad
December 17th, 2009
9:28 am
rwdekalbfan said ” And there were not many Sandy Creek people on here bad mouthing other teams. Seems like a very classy program.”
Thanks for the compliment. We at Sandy Creek try really hard to be classy. It starts with our administration and coaches. They set the expectation and we as parents and boosters try to enforce it. We love winning football games, and what we found is this. If you help develop good young men on and off the field…winning takes care of itself.
We pride ourselves on having the best fans anywhere that love football and don’t badmouth other teams. Now don’t think that means we won’t stand up for our team, quite the contrary!
reggaeman
December 17th, 2009
10:42 am
Camden wont win it 2010 and Charlton have the best qb in the state.
Tony Perkins--Clarke Central Class of 79 Red and Gold 4 Life
December 17th, 2009
11:39 am
AJC Staff:
The fans of Clarke Central don’t engage in much of the trash talk, we try to be respectful. Now, personally I have a problem with us being ranked 3rd after losing to Sandy Creek in the title game.
We led 9-7 in the 4th quarter in the “Dome”, Griffin lost 22-15 at “Home” in the semifinals. AJC what
did Griffin do to deserve a better ranking? No other state championship runnerup got a ranking lower
than #2. Be fair and consistent in your process.
Congratulations to Sandy Creek on your title, you guys have a talented squad and deserve all the credit thats coming your way!
CAMDEN COUNTY WILDCAT!!!!!
December 17th, 2009
11:53 am
REGGAEMAN DONT GET MAD BECAUSE CHARLTON COUNTY DIDNT EVEN REACH THE FINALS, AND YALL LOST AT HOME!!! AND WE ALREADY PUT THE BEAT DOWN ON YALL AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PRESEASON, SO YOU CANT TALK ABOUT CAMDEN COUNTY!!!
ImaTitleTownBaby
December 17th, 2009
1:20 pm
Lowndes All-Decade Team
First Team Offense
QB- Barrett Wilkes
RB- Lynn Williams
WB- Darriett Perry
RB- Khari Franklin
WR- Corry Clemons
TE- Zack Parker
OL- Ed Christian
OL- Jacquin Wrice
OL- Blake Bonner
OL- Levi Vedas
C- Andrew Dunn
First Team Defense
DE- BJ Wright
DE- Kelvin Roberts
DT- Devaris Leonard
DT- Stan Summers
LB- Antonio Townsend
LB- Telvin Smith
LB- Matt Harper
CB- Greg Reid
CB- Stevie Harden
S- Gerald Demps
S- Jermel Demps
Second Team Offense
QB- Doug Belk
RB- Octavious Everett
WB- Darren Richardson
RB- Stanley Dickinson
TE- Matt Harper
WR- Greg Lofton
OL- Layne Grant
OL- Will McPhearson
OL- Josh Bennett
OL- Willie Ratliff
C- Ethan Barwick
Second Team Defense
DE- Jermaine Clemons
DE- Micheal Copeland
DT- Phillip Goethe
DT- Asmar Ceasar
LB- Tavaris Williams
LB- Blake Summers
LB- Krys Brooks
CB- Kelly Dawson
CB- DD Dunn
S- John Barner
S- Josh Williams
Special Teams First Team
K/P- Curtis Shimdt
KR/PR- Greg Reid
Special Teams Second Team
K/P- Josh Davis
KR/PR- Brad Johnson
leechampion
December 17th, 2009
4:34 pm
i echo slalom1’s comments. Thanks
Todd and everyone should sign up for GHSFD cause, well it RULES. Merry CHRISTmas to all and come on down to Columbus for the HS all star game-its your last chance for a “fix” this year!
JayBo
December 17th, 2009
5:49 pm
Reeze,
Yo boy’s not under my skin at all, but I will say that I totally dislike the way he runs off at the mouth on this blog!!! I think I will have to go back to ignoring him like I was doing or it could get ugly real fast. You are funny Reeze….thanks for the laugh today. Have a great holiday season and hopefully we all will be back at next fall. Hopefully NS wont run us off the field when we play. Until then, take care.
wildcat fan
December 17th, 2009
6:03 pm
Camden chances of winning it again, is very high. Yes a lot of Sophmores made a major impact on a lot of games. A freshman starting at corner, and he should get more carries on the offensive side of the ball. A Freshman punter, who is the QB in waiting, who could probably start now. Two good recievers, and you know we keep plenty of backs. It will be at least 6 juniors (sophmores now)starting next year on defense,and a sophmore(freshman now). All started or played in every game not in mop up duty either. Oh by the way with our Starting QB is returning. And did you notice the size of those Sophmores. Our future look so good.4 in a row is not out of the possibility. These guys have two more years of football, and some with three left, I’m talking about young men who got significate playing time in real games, when the game was still in the balance, thats very valueable in building a program. JJ Green #5 is going to be special only a freshman, and our future QB in Ramsey, a Freshman. Its so amazing how the coaches are bringing these kids around. Both will play SEC Football
GWINNETT/BUFORD FAN
December 17th, 2009
6:18 pm
TO ALL !!!FOOTBALL IS OVER AND AGAIN CAMDEN AND BUFORD RULES !!!!!!!!!
SEE Y’ALL IN THE DOME NEXT YEAR.
Doc
December 17th, 2009
6:26 pm
M.L. King’s Corey Jarvis was named the new head football coach at Duluth High School on Dec, 16.
Jarvis is expected to leave for Duluth in January after official release by the DeKalb County School Board and approval by the Gwinnett County School Board.
wildcat fan
December 17th, 2009
6:33 pm
Its been great I pray that everyone have a SAFE and Happy Holiday Season. Hope to blog with everyone next year, I must say that I will miss Northside being in AAAAA, your fans make this blog worth while, with the passion you have for your team. And the controversy you keeping going. Until next year, stay safe and GOD BLESS. What will i do now on FRIDAY NIGHTS.
dakotah
December 17th, 2009
11:38 pm
The Dream Season
DATE
OPPONENT
FIELD
TIME
CONFERENCE
RECORD
SCORE
OVERALL
RECORD
AUG 23, 2008 NORCROSS GA DOME 5:30 PM 0 – 0 21 – 6 1 – 0
AUG 29, 2008 OPEN DATE OPEN DATE OPEN DATE OPEN DATE OPEN DATE
SEP 04, 2008 Columbia Co. Lake City, FL CHRIS GILMAN 8:30 PM 0 – 0 31 – 0 2 – 0
SEP 12, 2008 HOOVER, AL HOOVER 7:00 PM CST 0 – 0 44 – 16 3 – 0
SEP 19, 2008 OPEN DATE OPEN DATE OPEN DATE OPEN DATE OPEN DATE
SEP 26, 2008 WINDSOR FOREST SAVANNAH 7:30 PM 1 – 0 69 – 07 4 – 0
OCT 03, 2008 BEACH HIGH CHRIS GILMAN 7:30 PM 2 – 0 50 – 13 5 – 0
OCT 10, 2008 GROVES CHRIS GILMAN 7:30 PM 3 – 0 42 – 21 6 – 0
OCT 17, 2008 JOHNSON CHRIS GILMAN 7:30 PM 4 – 0 78 – 06 7 – 0
OCT 24, 2008 JENKINS CHRIS GILMAN 7:30 PM 5 – 0 70 – 00 8 – 0
OCT 31, 2008 SAVANNAH CHRIS GILMAN 7:30 PM 6 – 0 63 – 08 9 – 0
NOV 07, 2008 BRADWELL INSTITUTE HINESVILLE 7:30 PM 7 – 0 31 – 00 10 – 0
NOV 14, 2008 CREEKSIDE CGS 7:30 PM 7 – 0 49 – 00 11 – 0
NOV 21, 2008 NORTHSIDE
WARNER ROBINS
CGS 7:30 PM 7 – 0 28 – 20 12 – 0
NOV 28, 2008 WOODSTOCK CGS TBA PM 7 – 0 18 – 17 13 – 0
DEC 05, 2008 SEMI FINALS ??? TBA PM 7 – 0 27 – 07 14 – 0
DEC 13, 2008 STATE CHAMPIONSHIP GA DOME TBA 7 – 0 21 – 14 15 – 0
2009
BELIEVE IN THE PAW
DATE
OPPONENT
FIELD
TIME
CONFERENCE
RECORD
SCORE
OVERALL
RECORD
AUG 22, 2009 GRAYSON GA DOME 5:30 PM 0 – 0 10 – 14 0 – 1
AUG 28, 2009 OPEN DATE OPEN DATE OPEN DATE OPEN DATE OPEN DATE
SEP 04, 2009 FIRST COAST, FL CGS Border War 8:30 PM 0 – 0 30 – 24 1 -1
SEP 11, 2009 HOOVER, AL CGS 7:30 PM 0 – 0 24 – 27 1 – 2
SEP 18, 2009 OPEN DATE OPEN DATE OPEN DATE OPEN DATE OPEN DATE
SEP 25, 2009 WINDSOR FOREST CGS Rec Night 7:30 PM 1 – 0 39 – 6 2 -2
OCT 02, 2009 BEACH HIGH CGS 7:30 PM 2 – 0 51 – 0 3 – 2
OCT 09, 2009 GROVES CGS Middle School Night 7:30 PM 3 – 0 76 – 0 4 – 2
OCT 16, 2009 JOHNSON SAVANNAH 7:30 PM 4 – 0 51 – 0 5- 2
OCT 23, 2009 JENKINS CGS Home Coming 7:30 PM 5 – 0 50 – 0 6 – 2
OCT 30, 2009 SAVANNAH CGS 7:30 PM 6- 0 51 – 0 7 – 2
NOV 06, 2009 BRADWELL INSTITUTE CGS Senior Night 7:30 PM 7 – 0 56 – 9 8 – 2
NOV 13, 2009 NEWTON CGS 7:30 PM 43 – 19 9 – 2
NOV 20, 2009 LOWNDES
CGS 7:30 PM 10 – 7 10 – 2
NOV 27, 2009 N. GWINNETT AWAY 7:30 PM 35 – 0 11 – 2
DEC 04, 2009 COLQUITT COUNTY CGS 7:30 PM 19 – 10 12 – 2
DEC 12, 2009 STATE CHAMPIONSHIP GA DOME 8:00 PM 31 – 3 13 – 2
past two seasons we are 28-2
HallCoFootball09
December 18th, 2009
4:37 am
Now that the season is over. Lets start the long waits for 2010. I’d like to point out that Gainesville is moving to 8B-AAA for the 2010 season. And may I say, that two of the schools joining them are new programs. Plus. Gainesville is the only team in that subregion who had a winning record in 2009. They will play a very weak schedule.
dexter williams
December 18th, 2009
8:26 am
Hey camden county wildcat im an valdosta wildcats fan buti seen charlton play and their nqb is the real deal. And why you going to brag about beating up on an AA school with only 500 students..
Matt
December 18th, 2009
9:06 am
The running back for Greenville Is talented to he rush for 140 against wilcox and had 1,514 yards on 158 carrys He need tho be recruited NOW!!
Northside Observer
December 18th, 2009
10:35 am
According to the Georgia High School Daily News, Camden County had 19 seniors to make region 3AAAAA 1st or 2nd team. In addition, 3-Jr, 2-So, and 3-Fr (Commendable) to made it. Wow! No doubt Camden will have to re-build n in 2010 but she has an unlimited resource of players.
Will Camden repeat?
wildcat fan
December 18th, 2009
4:22 pm
NORTHSIDE OBSERVER,,,Is that the same she, that destroyed your EAGLES. You are very lucky CAMDEN(SHE AS YOU CALL US)called the game differently after the big lead, or it could have been much worse. you can tell that the game plan had changed after the big lead. The clock was more of the enemy.
Coach Kelly
December 18th, 2009
9:10 pm
Here is to Dr. Cason and all his supporters from Valdosta. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!! All the people from Effingham County want to thank you for the early Christmas gift you have given us with not renewing Coach Rick Tomberlin’s contract. I think we can go ahead and rename Valdosta as “Loserville” as long as you are at the reign. I am excited about Coach T returning to the Savannah Metro area. I played for the man at Jenkins back in the fall of ‘85. He was a great coach as well as a positive role model to all of us. My children now attend Effingham County High School and we are excited about the future for us and our football program.
Dr. Cason, thank you once again for listening to those few in your ear because obvious you don’t know anything about football or a good coach when you see one!!! You better start praying we don’t ever see you guys in the playoffs because there is alot of good young talent up this way!!
Northside Observer
December 18th, 2009
11:10 pm
Wildcatfan: Sayng she was no intented put down against Camden County football team.. It was just my military back ground. You guys have a great team and won fairly. It is common among the military and you should know this being in a Navy town. When no women served on ships any referrel to a ship was she. For example, she is a beautiful ship, it took a long time to sink her. Really, I just used the term without thinking it would offend.
rcrowell
December 18th, 2009
11:15 pm
Todd,while home sunday enjoying Peach County’s victory at the Dome,my son got up from the computer in disgust and said “Dad,look at this” It was your article on the Football Gods smiling on Luke Crowell,allowing him to stumble into a pass from Alabama bound Blake Sims to Notre Dame bound Tai-Ler Jones. If Luke never puts the pads on again it will be His decision. The last six months has been grueling for Him. Weekdays in the summer practicing football, weekends traveling around the South playing baseball. Luke has put your cheap shot behind him and moved on. Dad is calling you on it.
Bear_Backer
December 19th, 2009
3:26 am
Good luck next year everybody!
Roswell Hornet Fan
December 19th, 2009
10:33 am
Todd:
Duval Smith of the Roswell Hornets should probably be considered one of the top 15 running backs from Georgia.
Roswell’s (10-2) only two losses were to teams that went 12-1 and finished in final 8. And we had our chance to beat Grayson in the sweet sixteen game, but made too many special team errors.
Also did you consider Roswell over Stephenson for the Top 10 in AAAAA and maybe Lassiter should have been ranked in Top 8.
tj
December 19th, 2009
11:01 am
MLK should be in the top ten ranking teams
cat faithful
December 19th, 2009
4:17 pm
all fans click on k-bay 106 and listen to 14 of Camdens games on archives. On their way to being STATE CHAMPS!!
Fred
December 19th, 2009
9:35 pm
slalom1 said “Notice I did not include Northside WR, Camden County, Grayson,Parkview, Brookwood, N. Gwinnett,and a handful of others.” At least some of the Gwinnett teams didn’t exist during those years. Kind of hard to be a powerhouse when you don’t exist.
ATL Dawg, chill dude! You’re living in the past and making people believe our program has no class. Besides, we won that game so what gives?
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all! See you here next year and in the Dome next December!
Fred
December 19th, 2009
9:37 pm
Oops, meant to add congratulations to all the championship winners in all classes!!!! See you next year.
Bubba Ram
December 20th, 2009
12:46 pm
5A? Didn’t Grayson beat Camden and lose to Newman by having a last minute field goal blocked? This team was raked as high as #3 in the Nation this season, and they lose one game in the playoffs by 2 pts and fall to #5?
You guys have never given Coach Conn and the Rams the respect they deserve. Trust me, Camden was glad they didn’t have to face that Ram defense again.
Camden74
December 20th, 2009
4:00 pm
Are you freaking kidding me?……!!!! Only one Camden County player on the All Star roster!
Camden74
December 20th, 2009
4:11 pm
Yes, Grayson beat Camden the first game of the season. I prayed Grayson would make it to the finals to face Camden again…….But by this time, Camden would have had their act together, which it did! Which is why they’re back to back state champions! Understand something, first game of the season Camden had 3 starters returning on offense and 3 returning on defense. It took 3 games against very good competition for the new players to figure things out and get their act together. And the rest, as they say, is HISTORY! Just like Grayson!
Fred
December 21st, 2009
12:03 am
Camden74,
I was hoping for a rematch in the Dome because I thought that would have been a very good game. No one doubts that Camdem Co. came a long way and improved a lot. If, however, you are basing your assesment of Grayson on that first game, you are making the same mistake that people did by basing their assesment of Camdem on the first game.
Camdem won the state championship and is to be congratulated. I had the opportunity to look at the first quarter of the Grayson/Newnan game today and the calls on the two fumbles by Newnan in that quarter were clearly blown by the officials. The Newnan receiver caught the ball, had possesion and took 4 steps before being hit and fumbling. I don’t see how that gets called an incomplete pass. Likewise, the fumble that our safety picked up and ran with was clearly several feet in bounds while the runner was also clearly in when he lost the ball. But you know what, that is the way the game happens sometimes.
I know we won’t see you in the Dome at the first of the season but hopefully we can meet there in December!
slydog
December 21st, 2009
4:23 pm
Love High School Football now I see why Jarvis is leaving MLK because you all do not appreciate hard work and effort put in by good coaches. I watched every game except the SWD game this year and have seen every MLK game the past three years and Jarvis and his staff did not lose the games they were outplayed. The Newnan game Brown was hurt (fumble when he got in)and the kickoff was what they did all year when the girl kicked off not a onsides kick no one complained until then. The boy who kicked from what I heard from parents did not come to practice for two weeks in the playoffs so should Jarvis let him kick instead.Then the high snap against Newnan which ended the game was Jarvis’ fault too.Good luck to Jarvis and his family and my friend your opinion is just that an opinion.
Camden74
December 21st, 2009
11:56 pm
Fred,
I was actually responding to Bubba Ram’s post. He insinuated that Camden could not and/or would not defeat Grayson if they met in the championship game. My point is, the Camden team playing in August was not the same team playing in December! Maybe Grayson was better too. But there is not a team in Georgia that would beat Camden right now. There were a number of mistakes made by Camden in the Corky Kell match up. Both players and coaches were not at their best. If you remember, Camden’s offense was terrible in that game and the defense was not up to their normal standard either. Even with that, Camden lead with little more than seven minutes left in the game. I’m not saying Grayson didn’t deserve to win the game, but I am saying that as bad as Camden played, they still had a very good chance to win…………As bad as they played, a rematch would have been totally different! Anyway, doesn’t matter, Camden is the 2009 Georgia 5 State Champion!
r p
December 22nd, 2009
9:26 am
Bubba Ram , Sir Camden would of beat Grayson 50 -0 if Grayson would have made it to the Dome. Grayson saw one { Camden} team on 22 Aug. Camden was a different team on 12 Dec. Grayson was overrated all season long, and the playoffs proved that. The allstar rosters are just politics. Congrats to the boys that made it. Camden is just getting started, be carefull what you wish for Bubba Ram.
wildcat fan
December 22nd, 2009
6:57 pm
Budda Ram,, sounds like and IDIOT. You were clearly overrated at the first of the season. Stop the foolishness, Camden 03, 08 and 09 State Champs with a great chance to win it again. Grayson great team, but not a great program. Great programs do it year after year. Camden, Lowndes, Northside, Buford, Lagrange, Charlton, Peach, Lincoln, these teams do it year after year, not a one hit wonder.
Newnan Fan
May 1st, 2010
1:42 pm
there are several teams in AAAAA that are being blown off in these discussion because they haven’t been powerhouses for decades like the Valdosta’s, Lowndes;s and Northside’s of the world.
Here are some points to consider for 2010
1. Newnan is tired of being disrespected. The biggest sign in their locker room reads; “This state doesn’t respect you, why don’t you go out tonight and make them” Newnan only lost 4 starters this year, and has had enough of the Semi-Final blues. USA Today has Newnan ranked #25 in the nation. Every Newnan player wants to win state but after 4 straight Semi appearances, the Cougars have their a eye on a prize much larger. A National Championship. The Class of 2013 has the best chance to do it. The 2010 season is a step towards it.
2. East Coweta had their best season to date in 2009. Making the playoffs for the first time in 3 years, EC was disappointed to find that their first-round opponent was national powerhouse, Lowndes. The residents and fans of football, love the Newnan-East Coweta rivalry game in mid November. It’s almost as big here as Georgia-Florida or Georgia-Georgia Tech, imagine if it happened once in the regular season then again in the playoffs. MADNESS. EC wants the playoffs again. They are hungry. East Coweta lost 3 starters. They have the talent. They want state. A sign reads on EC’s campus, “Newnan isn’t the only football program in Coweta County, show ‘em” EC is ready to show yall.
3.