Georgia High School Football Daily Spotlight: Grayson falls to No. 11 in national ranking

RivalsHigh 100, the national rankings that elevated Grayson to No. 2 in the country last week, has had a change of heart. The Rams are now No. 11, with the reasoning being that Grayson’s schedule isn’t shaping up to be that strong in the regular season.

Meanwhile, Colquitt County has shot into the top 100 at No. 66 with an 8-1 record. Northside of Warner Robins has been ejected from the national rankings.

Here’s a look at how Georgia teams are doing in the seven national rankings:

ESPN Fab 50
14. Grayson; 43. Lowndes (+1)

Massey Ratings
18. Lowndes (-2)

MaxPreps Freeman Rankings
10. Lowndes

MaxPreps Xcellent 25
11. Grayson

National Prep Poll
9. Grayson

RivalsHigh 100
11. Grayson (-9); 22. Lowndes (+3); 40. North Gwinnett (+5); 55. Newnan (+12); 66. Colquitt County (UN); 69. Northside (-53); 72. Gainesville (-3); 81. Stephenson (-2)

USA Today
14. Grayson; 21. Lowndes (+1)

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58 comments Add your comment

ImaTitleTownBaby

November 4th, 2009
11:03 am

They had to move them back so that when Grayson loses…the team who beat them will not be at the top. Grayson should’ve scheduled some teams worth playing…no offense to Camden…but they didn’t even show up.

ghsclassof2012

November 4th, 2009
11:10 am

we tryed to play byrnes. warner robins would not let us out of the contract.

Grayson Student

November 4th, 2009
11:59 am

please stop giving rivals press, it means NOTHING last week after beating the worst team in the state (meadowcreek) we jumped 4 spots and they said our stock was rising. after a bye are stock is fallin because of a week schedule haha what a joke of a poll. theres no question we have a weak schedule but why jump us up in the first place

plowboy

November 4th, 2009
12:38 pm

truth hurts!!!!!!!!

Eagles Going AAAA

November 4th, 2009
12:39 pm

A little birdie told me that South Cobb is dropping down from AAAAA to AAAA region 5 next year. I know alot of players on the team and they have alot of talent with sketchy coaching but next year they will have a team full of seniors with an easier schedule so I wouldn’t be suprised to see them in the playoffs next year

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TJ

November 4th, 2009
12:53 pm

Rivals figured out they jumped the gun by putting Grayson that high once they saw Graysons remaining schedule and who Meadowcreek really was. But in reality Grayson has shot to go all the way, it all depends on matchups.

randy prosen

November 4th, 2009
1:09 pm

I knew it was coming. I wish it would have stood up (#2 GRAYSON) until the playoffs.

HOTINHERE

November 4th, 2009
1:52 pm

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HOTINHERE

November 4th, 2009
2:35 pm

GLAD I’M NOT FROM CAMDEN CTY, PARKVIEW OR WARNER ROBINS…..THEY MUST REALLY BE DOWN IN THE POLLS IF GRAYSON HAS RATINGS VIRUS.. I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE PRETTY DARN GOOD COMPETITION BY GEORGIA STANDARDS! MAYBE I WAS WRONG ALL ALONG!!!

Region 1 AAAAA

November 4th, 2009
3:41 pm

Who is GRayson?
Never heard of them.
They been around very long?

K-MAN

November 4th, 2009
3:43 pm

#1 GRAYSON shouldnt have been ranked that high in the first place! They got an advancement in pay before they actually did the work.
# 2 Its a good thing they didnt play BYRNES ,because afterwards, they wouldnt have been ranked very high in the regular AJC-poll….just ask CENTRAL GWINNETT!

BROOKWOOD MOM

November 4th, 2009
4:02 pm

Brookwood Mom has a message for Coach Richt: I FEEL YOUR PAIN COACH!!!!

I CAN'T BELEIVE IT

November 4th, 2009
4:06 pm

K-MAN,GRAYSON isn’t the only school shouldn’t be rank that high. I could name a few starting with LOWNDES COUNTY, COLQUITT COUNTY, NORTH GWINNETTI, AND ETC. What top team in GEORGIA has Colquitt County played and besides Prattville who has NG played thats rank in GEORGIA. Hell VIGOR won STATE in ALABAMA last year and UNION GROVE shut them out in a scrimmage this year. So how did they get to be rank so HIGH.

Reeze

November 4th, 2009
4:12 pm

Grayson dropping a little means nothing , it’s all computer ranking bs because of the Rams playing weaker teams the last few weeks . Northside dropped in the national rankings in 2007 for the same reason.

Rfrom G

November 4th, 2009
4:38 pm

Geez, only #11? Might as well not even be ranked if we can only be #11 in the nation…

viking lover

November 4th, 2009
4:40 pm

Just checked Rivals and actually Northside is still in the top 100. The Eagles went from 16 to 69. Just wondering something here… If polls don’t mean anything, why is everyone still posting on this blog? The AJC writes their opinion, or poll, and then we all agree or disagree. It is correct that no one or no computer can predict the outcome of the games, but past statistics can show us probable outcomes. The rest is just smack talk, which makes it so worthwhile. By the way, Rivals says that anyone that loses a game in Georgia will fall like Humpty Dumpty.

K-MAN

November 4th, 2009
4:47 pm

I CANT BELEIVE IT…How can you say LOWNDES doesnt deserve to be ranked very high in the polls? If you go to the schools glass case…you will find a whole lot of hardware inside of it How many championships have they won….5 or 6? I know at least 3 in the last 6 years! Plus they are in the running again this year…make that year after year! Not to mention …the region they play in is like the (SEC) of high school football! NORTHSIDE deserves the very same credit! Maybe the other schools you mentioned shouldnt be…..but these two are no strangers to high rankings!

BulldawgBite

November 4th, 2009
5:01 pm

I Cant Believe it… how can you say NG shouldnt be ranked that high. last year we lost to a very good newnan team on their home field in the qtrs. this year we beat the #5 team in the nation. and yes vigor won state in alabama last year.. IN 5AAAAA. Prattville had won 3 state titles in a row in 6AAAAAA. and just because your team wins a scrimmage doesnt mean crap. it means nothing on how your team will do in a season

footballfan

November 4th, 2009
5:16 pm

It will all come around when little ole North Gwinnett wins the State Championship. Go Bulldogs and please do not fail me now that I’ve shot-off my mouth.

NG18

November 4th, 2009
5:37 pm

Worst case 3rd seed for NG would spell Trouble for Grayson. If North looses to Peachtree Ridge and looses the coin toss to Collins Hill that would send a 9-1 team to Grayson in the 2nd round.I think North Gwinnett will take out #1 Grayson and is not a good option for them.
Grayson really needs to pull for North against Peachtree Ridge and hope some else plays them.

I CAN'T BELEIVE IT

November 4th, 2009
5:53 pm

K-MAN quit talking about the past this is 2009 not 2007 and BULLDAWGBITE win your region 1st before you do any talking. Teams from ALABAMA couldn’t play in GEORGIA HIGHEST CLASSIFICATION and be NATIONALLY RANK. Some of ya’ll need to start watching the game of the week on ESPNU and you will see that GEORGIA plays the best HIGH SCHOOL BALL. Now getting back to what I said early If GRAYSON shouldn’t be rank nationally hell NG, COLQUITT COUNTY AND LOWNDES COUNTY shouldn,t be either.

Quinn of the Ridge

November 4th, 2009
7:50 pm

GHSclassof2012, that is really interesting you bring that up. PRHS also wanted to play Byrnes but Harrison wouldn’t let us out of our contract. Too many of these contracts! I would’ve rather played Byrnes than Romping on Harrison to be honest.

Fred

November 4th, 2009
7:58 pm

Can’t have it both ways ladies and gentlemen. Either Grayson’s lack of a title in their short history keeps them from ranking high OR their 9-0 record of this year ranks them over the teams that have been good in the past but whose records this year include a loss. It doesn’t work for Lowndes, NSWR, Camdem, etc. as examples only (all *great* teams and I am not trying to take *anything* away from them!) that have losses this year to say they are better this year because of their past and then in the same breath beat up on Grayson because of their past. Grayson has steadily progressed over the past several years and can make a strong of a claim as anyone.

It is interesting that strength of schedule is so important and everyone acts as though the schedule is something that is set by the head coach the week before. My understanding (which could be wrong) is that schedules are to some degree both set by GHSA with their region assignments and in region play requirements AND set several years in advance. A team can go up and down a lot in just a couple of years. Look at Brookwood and Parkview as an example. I am not trying to diss them in any way but they are not the same teams they were just a couple of years ago. And does anyone else see the problem with determining strength of region play? There are some exceptions from some perennially weak football teams but with all of the in region play, there are going to be teams that lose several games. Then, because they have lost several games, they are declared weak. Seems like a Catch-22 to me (and yes, I realize I just dated myself! :) )

One last point, unless you watch Grayson play over the course of the season, it is easy to get a wrong impression of their games. The Grayson “way” is to control the ball on offense and give no ground on defense. This leads to lower scoring games. If you look at them for the one game you play against them, it is easy to say they missed opportunities and did not play strong when their way is to do enough to win the game using the entire 48 minutes. It is so obvious when the blowout score against Meadowcreek even when they were doing everything they could not to run up the score except leave the field has such a disportionate affect on ratings. I know in several games including Brookwood the score could have been higher but Grayson chose to either just let the clock run or in Brookwood’s case, take a knee at the Brookwood ten yard line with 30-40 seconds left on the clock.

Now did I like Grayson being rated #2, you bet ya! Do I think they are any better or worse than they were the week before or the week after the high rankings, not a chance! Do I enjoy all of the discussion these rankings generate, heck yea! I stand in awe of the depth on knowledge some of you have and the dedication to the sport. I really enjoy all of the reparte’ between everyone discussing their team. At least, that is until it turns personal about either coaches, players or other commentors.

Sorry for the long post. I get carried away sometimes.

BROOKWOOD MOM

November 4th, 2009
9:49 pm

Fred: SHUT UP!!!!

Grayson Student

November 4th, 2009
10:03 pm

fred, good post

Grayson Student

November 4th, 2009
10:06 pm

NG 18, north gwinnet is the same exact team as south is and we beat them. dont be close minded and think just because you have uzomah that your are the only team that can run the spread. i do feel that yall will beat the ridge though

Grayson Student

November 4th, 2009
10:07 pm

actually i just checked the brackets and collins hill has already locked up the number 3 seed in region 7

ImaTitleTownBaby

November 4th, 2009
10:22 pm

I agree that polls are an inconsistant way of rankings teams…but they’re what we all go by…polls are calculated in the preseason and they change every week until the last game of the season…when a team is sittin at #1…does that mean that they are the best team of that week until the next poll comes out…or are the voters presuming that that team is better overall than every other team…and when a team wins or loses and moves up or down…does that mean that the polls were wrong the week before…for instance if Colquitt beat Northside friday…what does that say about the polls that came out Monday morning….in my opinion rivals, espn, usatoday, ajc, and all the other polls are no different than yours and my personal opinionated polls…theirs are just more publicized. To the person whos preseason polls match those of the postseason…good job…you know your stuff.

Shout out to Fred…I like your post…you should post more often

ghs#22

November 4th, 2009
11:23 pm

NG18
you might need to brush up on your bracket predictions

ghs#22

November 4th, 2009
11:25 pm

the fact is Grayson has played the schedule dealt to them………………
10-0 in the reagular season last year and is expected to do the same this year. that’s way the ranking is high!!

Flo-Ri-Duh!

November 4th, 2009
11:35 pm

You can still be ranked high with an below average schedule – ex.: #1 ranked Florida.

CJ Dawg

November 4th, 2009
11:37 pm

Fellas, Camden is the Champ until they are knocked off. Deal with it. I know they stand a great chance with a HUGE lack of QB production. But all remains to be seen…ya gotta BEAT the champ when it counts to BE the champ. I respect all the teams at the top, but my home..Camden..is STILL the champs. Quit knocking them. Makes you look like crybabies. Now, let’s pull for one of our teams to get way up there in the nationals.

CJ Dawg

November 4th, 2009
11:40 pm

And one other thing…Colquitt Cty has a coach that is a proven cheater. I hate that for the kids there. If he is doing that again, I hope he goes to prison. Something smells over there. He is not that good of a coach…not close. His athletes have come outta nowhere.

Shutout

November 4th, 2009
11:51 pm

Camden has four or five shut outs in a row. Started slow and now picking up steam. Go Wildcats!

Colquitt County Fan

November 5th, 2009
12:14 am

CJ Dawg you a dam liar our coach is a honest hard working coach here in this town; if he was not a issue in this playoff picture a dam thing would not even come up about this man; I know all the player of that team and all of the players of legit young kids; that kind of comment is bulls3875.

North Georgia

November 5th, 2009
12:17 am

Colquitt County Fan don’t pay attention to that ass hole that made that comment I agree with you that Rush Popst is a good man and a good coach; but he did have some issue at the other school in Alabama but from what I learn it was streathen out by a misunderstanding.

Fred

November 5th, 2009
7:16 am

Brookwood Mom, do you have problems with the length or the content? Sorry about the length, I just had a lot to say that time. If it is content and my remarks using Brookwood as an example, show me where I am wrong. Brookwood has a great history and tradition but is going through a relatively down time. While I don’t particularly care for the way Coach Crews runs his team based on the couple of games I have seen and others I have read about, that is just my opinion and of course your is rightfully different. I used Broowood as an example only because I prefer to talk about the games I have attended or watched on TV/Internet. The Brookwood/Grayson score was 22-12 and everyone thought that was close. Based on the momentum of game at the time, Grayson was driving and had the ball on the Brookwood 10 with 30-40 seconds to play and took a knee instead of a sure field goal and probable touchdown. Would everyone have thought Grayson was better if we had won 25-12 or 29-12? Probably. Would the number of W/L changed, no.

My point about region weakness is true for several regions including 1, 7 and 8 and probably others (talkin AAAAA now). There are several strong teams in the region that play each other. Someone has to loose. When you then look at W/L in region, all of the good teams can’t be 10-0. The losses to each other by quality teams makes the numbers look like the region is weak. Through in out of region games and strength of schedule, while interesting, shouldn’t be as strong of a ranking factor. Yes, you have to take into account the programs that are flat struggling but I think you can do that without placing too much emphasis.

I find it interesting that the people doing the rankings are doing so based on scores and abreaviated reporting. There is no way they can see all of the games. I think unless you see the games and follow the teams closely over the entire season, you can’t really get a true picture of the team. I can no more know how strong Lowndes, Camden Co, or Warner Robbins is based on the one time I have seen them than I can fly to the moon.

Dadgum it! I got long winded again! Sorry. :)

Fred

November 5th, 2009
8:03 am

Oops! 2nd paragraph should say throw in, not through in. I’ve got to quit changing my sentence in mid-stream. My bad!

yo

November 5th, 2009
8:45 am

Fred your statement “I can no more know how strong Lowndes, Camden Co, or Warner Robbins is based on the one time I have seen them than I can fly to the moon.” is not exactly true.

If you had showed up to watch Northside or Lowndes in the game that they lost would you know more or less about them.

Trust me your opinion based on that one game for each of these teams would have been wrong. Especially for Lowndes if you were to go back and then look at the other 8 games, who they played, and the scores.

The fact is you can tell a lot about teams by looking at scores and the teams that they play with out ever seeing those teams play even once.

goober

November 5th, 2009
10:20 am

Thank goodness we have a playoff system to determine the true champions … unlike one particular college athletic activity which continues to live in the Dark Ages with its head stuck in the ground like an ostrich (did I spell that right?).

Just pretend for a moment that instead of Phillie and NY having a best-of-seven playoff series, a group of “Voters” decided who would be baseball’s world champions?!

The quality of prep football in GA is as good as ever this year, and any number of teams can win titles. Thanks to all the athletes and coaches who work so hard to entertain us. An appeal to all posters: Please, please, NEVER put down any of these people. Without their work, you wouldn’t have such a great sport to enjoy, or this column in which to express your opinion.

Fred

November 5th, 2009
11:09 am

Yo,

I still think that just looking at scores and schedule doesn’t paint a true picture. If you go deeper and look at yardage, long plays, time of possesion, etc., you certainly can get close but in my opinion, watching a team for multiple games during the season says so much more. I am in awe of some of the posters and their knowledge and understanding of the game (you are one of them!) and their ability to look at a game as it is/was and mostly put aside extreme boosterism to provide a critical analysis of what is going on.

For me, I have enjoyed high school football the past two years like I never have before. Enjoy the remaining games and I’ll see you in the Dome in December! wink, wink! :)

SouthGARules

November 5th, 2009
11:28 am

I know teams can’t do anything about their region schedule, but I applaud teams that schedule tougher out of region teams. I know now that Grayson’s win over Warner Robins looks better considering what the Demons did last Friday night. I know there are regions that do not play any out of region games (8-AAAA among others), so they have to play what they are dealt.

NG18

November 5th, 2009
11:47 am

Fred- Sorry but December is wishful thinking.Grayson will not make it past round 3 against Newnan. They will stop the run and are way better
than South Gwinnett who you guys had trouble with this year.

SportsFan31313

November 5th, 2009
1:51 pm

SouthGaRules,

Now that makes a lot of sense. I can agree with you on that. However; I will say to get to play against a tougher team may require for your team to travel over a hundred miles. I think that is part of the reason why GHSA align Regions like the way they do. Example, The longest travel that Bradwell Institute have on their schedule is Camden County. They (Camden County) is near the Florida Border approximately less than 5 miles away. To strengthen the schedule for Bradwell Institute, they would have teams far away that are in their Classification. Please correct me if I am wrong.

SportsFan31313

November 5th, 2009
1:53 pm

Typo

They (Bradwell) would have to travel to play teams that are far away.

Grayson Student

November 5th, 2009
2:52 pm

NG18 since you seem so confident in newnans defense can you tell me how they gave up 15 points to a AAA team? cool they have 5 shutouts… so do we. Last time they played a wing t was camden last year and what happened?

SouthGARules

November 5th, 2009
3:30 pm

SportsFan31313: You are correct. I know Bradwell scheduled HoCo as well as 2 AAAA teams, so I’m not really sure what they can do except maybe schedule Metro Atlanta schools, but I know there is a cost factor to consider. I do know this: The reason Grayson scheduled Warner Robins was to get the team used to traveling come playoff time. I would dare say that is the same reason Peachtree Ridge traveled to Lowndes 2 years in a row. BTW: Wasn’t there a RB from Bradwell that went to a D-1 school about 20 years ago? I want to say his name was John Stewart but I’m not sure.