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See what AJC high schools beat reporter Michael Carvell says about Friday’s South Gwinnett-Grayson game and who’s looking tough in Class AAAAA around metro Atlanta in his new VIDEO BLOG…

Here are the Week Four games you can find stories and photos for on ajc.com…

South Gwinnett vs. Grayson | Photos
East Paulding vs. McEachern | Photos
Grady vs. Washington | Photos
Lovett vs. Towers | Photos

Don’t forget to check out our roundups from around the metro area. Here they are…

Carver-Atlanta vs. St. Pius
Mt. Zion-Jonesboro vs. Griffin
Carrollton vs. Whitewater
Cartersville vs. Westminster
East Coweta vs. Creekside
Lakeside vs. SW DeKalb
Tucker vs. Miller Grove
Woodland-Stockbridge vs. Jackson-Atlanta
Norcross vs. North Gwinnett
Dacula vs. Central Gwinnett
Kell vs. Roswell

WEEK 4 SCOREBOARD: CLICK HERE to see the Week 4 results.

Weekend topic: Which winless team should absolutely NOT be winless?

405 comments Add your comment

SGT CHRIS

September 19th, 2009
8:25 am

On the comment that Warner Robins is not a visiting team, so ENR, you mean to tell me that EVERYTIME Northside and WR play, that WR is always the HOME team? I find that odd because, in LaGrange, Troup, LaGrange, and Callaway have all been the visiting team when they play each other. I find that hard to believe that WR has never been on the visitors side, even if it is “their stadium”. Just an observation thats all

coach

September 19th, 2009
8:35 am

I’m a neutral observer (being a coach at another high school) BUT south Gwinnett had the game TAKEN from them again and again by the REFs!

SOOOOOO many bad calls

And not just penalties…Grayson was given a 3rd and long pass completion when the ball obviously bounced 4 feet in front of the receiver.

Also before a Grayson score (down on the about the 5) the Rams’ QB fumbled the SNAP, SG recovered and the REFs waved it off as an incomplete pass

One other thing, on a late 3 and 1 for Grayson the REFs flagged them for five yards, marked it off, Grayson then lined up to run a play, their Coach called a timeout and talked to the REFs on the Grayson sidelines, and after the Timeout, the REFS came out and waved off the flag and moved the ball back up 5 yards.

I could not believe my eyes. As a coach I have NEVER seen that. What makes it worse is that when South’s Coach complained, they hit him for a 15 yard unsportsmanlike penalty

It was really disappointing to see a good game taken from kids that deserved to have a fair game

MAYS ALUM

September 19th, 2009
8:49 am

@K-MAN and BERNIE MATT….I waive the white flag! I AM SOOOOO PISSED with the performance of my Raiders on last night that I could spit fire! All of the thing that you saw have come back to bite us in the ass…Alexander is the SORRIEST team in the region and we should have beat them the way that we beat Therrell. SPECIAL TEAMS and Coach McGHEE need to be at practice RIGHT NOW because they embarassed all of the dang little league coaches of Ben Hill, Cascade, Adamsville and Welcome All…if you can’t catch the punt/kick-off and run the *ish back – DON’T TOUCH IT!!!!!! We gave up 3 field goals on basic fundamentals alone!!!!!! That shows a lack of discipline, lack of coaching and just over all stupidity! Would not be surprised if Calloway had to spend a few days at home without pay behind this BS!!!!! I humbaly say to you….I AM EMBARASSED TO LOVE THEM SO MUCH RIGHT NOW and K-MN maybe we should suit your daughter up next week….

coach

September 19th, 2009
8:49 am

Grayson Rams Fan

To be fair….South Gwinnett fubled their first Kickoff which gave Grayson a very short field to score its second TD

And my friend, Grayson was obviously the beneficiary of MANY calls and rulings

wolverine fan

September 19th, 2009
9:02 am

Coach………You are no Coach….A real coach would not post what you just posted. Shame on you.

hawk man

September 19th, 2009
9:08 am

Hey Big Dog and Decatur for life. As I said earlier Hillgrove would give you guy’s A GOOD OLD FASHIONED COBB COUNTY BUTT WOOPING!!!!!!!!!!! 51-14 ENOUGH SAID!!!

Rams Fam

September 19th, 2009
9:19 am

“Coach”

Every South scoring drive was full of missed holding calls, defensive linemen literally getting tackled! The first drive of 3rd quarter, long pass play, the right tackle was 15 yards down field 3 yards away when the receiver catches the ball (now I’m not a high school coach like you but in my rule book that constitutes illegial man down field)- not to mention defensive end getting tackled on same play, big run backs on punts had clips that were not called- all directly in front of the officals. The waived off flag was a bad call initially. The call was a sideline infraction against the news crew- not Grayson affilates. The call should have never been made which was why it was corrected. Common on coach, are you sure you weren’t just seeing what you wanted to see?

South is a great football team- probably the best offense Grayson has seen this season. They played a great game but Grayson won. I find it interesting that this forum is quick to say in the same breath that South is great team but Grayson is not that good. We did win by two scores didn’t we?

SPX

September 19th, 2009
9:25 am

St. Pius beats Carver 42-7. Pius is lookin scary good. Hardest games upcoming are against Washington and Grady.

Defense allowed their first TD of the season on a busted play by Carver ha. That’s just not acceptable.

Regular Joe

September 19th, 2009
9:33 am

Stephenson was hurt badly in the 1st qrt due to penalties. There was alot of questionable calls by the reffs. But anyway a win is a win. Final was SHS 34 Ware Co 13.

Regular Joe

September 19th, 2009
9:40 am

#25 for Stephenson has to be the most underrated RB in Georgia. This guy put on the Barry Sanders show with 4 TDs and about 150 yrds. I have to say this kid is a special player. The defense is solid too as usual. The score could have easily been 34-6.

MHSfan

September 19th, 2009
9:42 am

Realepfan, finally someone who wants to talk intelligent football instead of outdated artillery. Ep has some really big kids (tall) kids on that D, a couple on the O, but the player that still sticks out to me the most is that #40(the smallest one on the field), what a great looking display he put on last night, and goes to show that the size of the heart in a player can make a difference.
I was however very concerned about the officiating in that game (on both sides of the LOS) Now for the one who says how can you see sitting up in the stands. There is holding on every play and last night, once an official keys in on a certain area of the playing field, the laundry will start flying. Several calls i question (as do most fans) but the pass interferance calls in most GHSA games is nonexistant. Some of us have been around awhile and are not ignorant to the game of football.
Anyway the 2 teams to watch in our region for this point forward are Woodstock and EP, regardless of where MHS is playing that weekend i will go see those 2 teams play each other, it should be a good one. I am not saying Etowah isnt good, but i think EP and Woodstock are better teams right now.

Viking Girl

September 19th, 2009
9:49 am

Grayson if everyone on this blog keeps saying the same thing about your team then it must be true. Nobody is praising you guys but yourselves because your team still hasn’t proven anything. So what you upset Lowndes last year? You guys still couldn’t get it done. You lost the very next week. If it wasn’t for us nobody wouldn’t even know who you are. So really you guys should be showing us some love for putting Grayson on the map. The whole Grayson beat Lowndes saga is so old. Lowndes has won titles in 80′ 99′ 04′ 05′ and 07′. So my point is that don’t be trying to just disrespect us like we don’t have a legit program. Yes Grayson beat us last year and I have no problem with that. If you beat us, you just beat us. But what I do have a problem with is all the Grayson people talking like they are the team to beat in the whole state and that everyone else is chasing them. Last time I checked Lowndes is ranked higher than Grayson in every poll in the state and nationally. Grayson isn’t getting much love on this blog because when the other programs like Northside, Warner Robins, Lowndes, Camden, and Valdosta whom all by the way have several state titles read about you guys at Grayson braggin about how good you are and how you beat Lowndes so now that must automatically make Grayson a contender for the title, well we all take that as a diss in AAAAA. Got to show us something is all I’m saying. I think most would agree.

coach

September 19th, 2009
9:51 am

Wolverine fan

I am a coach, I do not need to prove that.

It was as a Coach, that I saw those things and was upset because I think of myself in that situation and therby realize how unfair some of the happenings were

Understand that it did not matter to me who won between Grayson and South Gwinnett….What I am most interested in is seeing two teams play on an EVEN playing field and let the best team win

coach

September 19th, 2009
9:54 am

Rams Fan

On Grayson’s first score, South had a defensive lineman Literally Tackled in the backfield as he was about to sack the QB

It wasn’t called and the play was a touchdown

coach

September 19th, 2009
9:56 am

South also had 2 TDs called back for penalities so how in the world a Grayson person could complain about calls is increadible

Raider11Soccer

September 19th, 2009
10:19 am

Okay first of all im one EP fan that isnt here to gloat or be a sore loser. All im saying is the EP vs. MCH game was a tremendous game!!!! Anyone at the game could tell you that both teams were trying there best. It just came down to mistakes and MCH got the best of EP’s. EP wasnt expected to win this game so why is everyone in an uproar over the game. Yea we lost but we did better then anyone else thought. Everyone saying it was gunna be a blowout and everything we came so much closer then anyone else. Now for the rest of Region 5AAAAA

Bill in Dallas

September 19th, 2009
10:27 am

The best finish had to have been the Paulding County/ Haralson County game.
Paulding rallied from a 35-7 deficit in the second half to win 36-35. PC scored 2 touchdowns in the final 3 minutes to win.

The Cannon Rules!!

September 19th, 2009
11:12 am

RealisticEPFan…

We must have been sitting close to each other last night…I saw / heard the same EP fans screaming at the QB. I think a lot of it was in the frustration that he was NOT passing when he had open recievers (many times down the right side) and was holding the ball then trying to “make something happen” by running it himself. Several other times when he did pass it was late as he was scrambling away from defenders and didn’t have time to set up. We have been a bit spoiled with the past few years at EP having a couple of guys who COULD pass and recievers who could make a bad pass look good. So far this year I am not seeing the same type passing game from either of our QB’s. Just a thought! One other comment EP last night had NO PASS defense…NONE… and if we don’t fix that FAST, the Etowah’s, and Woodstock’s still left to play us will have a field day!

By the way for the one’s who keep calling last night “A BLOW-OUT” I call to your attention the headline in the AJC. below…

“McEachern hangs on, tops East Paulding
Indians improve to 4-0; Raiders drop to 2-1
By CHIP SAYE / For the AJC”

This doesn’t sound like he thought it was anything but what it was a VERY CLOSE played game by two tough football teams.

This week Marietta at “THE BONEYARD”…time to get back on track!

1-AAAAA Rules

September 19th, 2009
11:24 am

Everybody knows we play in the toughest and best region. Bump these soft Atlanta metro schools especially Grayson. Can’t wait for Lowndes/Grayson rematch. Lowndes will get revenge. Best believe!

TJ

September 19th, 2009
11:49 am

I think everyone is saying the same thing about Grayson and South Gwinnett game. The officiating sucked but when it is all done Grayson would have still won. Coach, it is Friday night, how are you watching the game? Recreation coach or Brookwood coach? Does not matter mark up another win for Grayson. Lowndes girl, does not matter about history, P. Ridge was double overtime game, Grayson has not been around that long so their history is now. Four years ago when Grayson started making the playoffs everyone was saying “Grayson who?” on these blogs, I remember. Now everyone knows them in Georgia, that is earning respect. Lowndes in my book and everyone elses is the #1 team and will be until somebody beats them, same can be said about the #2 team, Grayson. Playoffs will sort this out, that is what they are for.

Yo

September 19th, 2009
11:51 am

1-AAAAA Rules the only problem with a Grayson/Lowndes rematch is that the most likely scenario of it happening is in the dome for the championship. Even if they are the 2 best teams in the state it is going to be a tough road for “both” of them to make it.

Here is my prediction for 1AAAAA standings now that I have seen a little
of all teams. In this order of finish. Lowndes, Northside, Valdosta, Colquit. Warner will make a run but I see Colquit coming out ahead.

hey

September 19th, 2009
12:13 pm

THE STEPHENSON-WARE COUNTY GAME HAD THE WORST OFFICIATING PERIOD!!
THEY CALLED ALL KINDS OF GHOST PENALTIES!!
SCORE EASILY SHOULD’VE BEEN 40+ TO 0… MAYBE 6

trojan57

September 19th, 2009
12:15 pm

Some of you guys are smokin something about Region 1-AAAAA predictions
Everyone predicted that Houston’s RB would run wide on the Trojans,, didn’t happen…. Yes it was raining, but I believe on both team….. right?
Secondly, to many of you are in dream world if you Northside WR will be #2…. isn’t going to happen…. Lowndes #1, Coffee #2, Warner Robins #3 and Valdosta #4…
Remember bozs….. “it’s defense that wins games” amd these teams have the best defenses in the region….

Vik'Queen

September 19th, 2009
12:38 pm

Great job Lowndes on the victory over Colquitt. That team has improved. This was a good test for our Vikings. Our defense held strong. All our guys played hard. Glad to have our guys back home next week for another tough region game against Tift. And Yo I agree with you, all of these games in the region will be tough so looking ahead to a Grayson/Lowndes rematch is just too far seen right now. Let’s just take them one at a time.

Bear_Backer

September 19th, 2009
12:54 pm

Man-o ‘ LIVE…those mighty Griffin Bears broke out the BEAST CLAW Whooping Club against a gritty-tough Mt. Zion Jonesboro Team. I was WAAAAY off in my prediction of the Bears losing by 4. (I’ll keep my day job I ’spoze!). An absolute BONE-CRUSHING stop on a critical fourth down for Mt. Zion just deflated all Bulldogs this side of Athens, and the crunching thud generated from the shock-waves probably flattened South Clayton County as well. Trust me, that one hit was YOU-TUBE good. (hrrrm…maybe…naaa) Great game on TV (watched the replay at home) and the Bears Den was ROCKIN and the fans were into it. I’d venture as far as to say Mt. Zion will still make the playoffs, they are that good of a team, but this week they were no match for the Bears Arsenal. GHS was really out for revenge and got it! Don’t DARE overlook those mighty Griffin Bears. I sorta feel sorry for poor Forest Park next week…..just sayin…Get on Board the AIR-BEAR EXPRESS!!!

MhsRaider09

September 19th, 2009
12:54 pm

Im speechless… that was the worst game that my mays raiders have played… Alexander???? really??? of all teams in our region… thi just goes to show that mays realy does lack fundamentals.. i love my alma mater to death but thats jus unacceptable….

Reeze

September 19th, 2009
1:13 pm

Trojan57………….Come on now , we all agree that Hoco’s running game and defense is better this year, but we are talking about Hoco ,it will probably be a good fight between Tift and Hoco when they play for the bottom spot in the region…….Coffee’s defensive battle with Hoco by no means solidify’s Coffee for playoff spot in the region…..gotta say this is a first ,times must be really hard in Douglas……..But I agree with you on one thing …The Cats and the Demons.are back…..This is the Valdosta team that Northside hated and dreaded to play years ago,…..Hadn’t see a team like this from Valdosta in years ……The Qb is fast and can throw pretty well ,lots of speed on both sides ,Rome and the recievers are good…..The Cats played hard ,they played to win , unlike the last couple seasons……This was the most excitng game for Northside since the Tucker game a couple years back…….Mad respect for The Cats…….Warner robins as well…..The Grayson folks may be right on….Warner robins defense is good….Malcolm Dixon the Qb is just as fast and has a arm just as good as the Valdosta kid ,plus they’ve got 2 or 3 backs that can kill a team……Lowndes will win the region ,but it won’t be a cake walk …..ill agree with you Northside is not a gimme for the 2 spot…..2,3,and 4 will go to Northside ,Valdosta and Warner Robins ,no particular order……..sorry man buy Coffee ,Tift and Hoco will be on the ugly ship looking out in November

Reeze

September 19th, 2009
1:26 pm

Forgot about Colquitt ,throw them in the playoff picture too

SouthGARules

September 19th, 2009
1:28 pm

ENR: Wheeler is the basketball school in Cobb, not McEachern.
SuwaneeOwnz: You are correct about the North/Stephenson matchups. I had assumed they were playoff matchups, but did see they were regular season games under Tim Hammontree. I know that the late Dennis Roland started the turnaround at North and Bob Sphire has taken the program to another level, but what happened to Coach Moore, who was there for 1 year before Bob Sphire took over. I guess the matchups with Stephenson should be taken about like the matchups with Buford. That was then, this is now.
Grayson basically has one hurdle to get over before they win the region & that is next week in the BIg Orange Jungle. That game will be on CSS for those who are unable to attend. Parkview has a good defense, having held a good Collins Hill team to 10 points, but Grayson’s offense is more balanced. I believe a closer game than expected, but Grayson wins to stay unbeaten.

Rams Fan

September 19th, 2009
1:29 pm

Viking Girl-
Thanks for the history lesson. We are excited to try to put our name among the greats in high school football. The school has only been around for 9 years. We’re just trying to make a name for ourselves. You also make a good point about the other powerhouse programs like Camden & Warner Robins. By the way, we beat them too so Lowndes doesn’t need to feel like we’re hanging our hat on them alone. We’re not claiming to be a historical powerhouse. Just hoping to win our next game–

Rams Fan

September 19th, 2009
1:31 pm

Reeze- Warner Robins defense is that good. You are right–

Reeze

September 19th, 2009
1:34 pm

T.J……..I think the problem with Grayson is that Grayson is winning ,but not winning convincingly

Rams Fan

September 19th, 2009
1:39 pm

Reeze-
I guess only time will tell—

Anybody want to talk about North Gwinnett??!!! Those jokers look good– they are going to cause everybody problems.

DealWithIt

September 19th, 2009
2:15 pm

Ok, so Grayson STILL isn’t good enough?
You said we couldn’t beat Camden- We did-and then you blame it on their “rebuilding process”
You said we couldn’t beat Warner Robins-We did- Then you say we didn’t beat them bad enough so we must not be as good as everyone thinks.
You said South Gwinnett would upset us-They didn’t-Then you blame it on bad calls- i was THERE and Grayson had JUST AS MANY bad calls. Being jealous never gets anyone anywhere.

Grayson is legit and will prove it as if we haven’t already.

TJ

September 19th, 2009
2:15 pm

Reeze, you are right. Long as they win I guess they are happy. I started to watch and support Grayson 4 or 5 years ago because they are in my backyard and Brookwood was same old same old. One thing I have noticed, they do not run up scores for one reason or another. I do not think it is their style to do so. But what is their style is defense and running. Their time of possesion was 33 minutes to South’s 15 minutes. Total offense was 324 yards to South’s 218 yards. Grayson’s defense was exposed a little last night against spread. Their offense stepped up to the plate and surpassed South Gwinnett.

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September 19th, 2009
2:15 pm

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84viking

September 19th, 2009
2:23 pm

Everybody needs to quit worrying about games they haven’t even played yet & concentrate on the games at hand.There is no cake walk to the Dome this year.Everybody is vunerable to a loss at any given time during the season.If everybody stays healthy this season;there will be some great matchups in the playoffs.You cannot count nobody out at this point; way to early in the season.

Say it Aint So

September 19th, 2009
2:34 pm

Its going to be pretty damn quiet without Head East, Cannon Rules and all the No Respect Mays Fans. Last night sent them under the nearest rocks.

Ed

September 19th, 2009
2:54 pm

Looking forward to the Marist vs. Tucker game on Saturday. Should be a great one.

Ed

September 19th, 2009
2:54 pm

Make that Friday!

Reeze

September 19th, 2009
3:51 pm

TJ…….. I have seen Grayson twice play in Warner robins last year and in Loganville this year and Grayson is a good squad . Im Not saying that Grayson needs to run the score up to prove anything …But when you’re ranked nationally and the # 2 team in the state . You are expected to have better wins against ,say Warner Robins who isnt ranked at all., and you win by a 10 point difference.We know now that the Demons defense is pretty good and still your kids put up good numbers ,, but the average joe won’t look at the stats ,they’ll only look at the score , even though the demons didn’t move the ball at all ,a turnover or even a punt return or any special team TD from the demons and their right back in it…Your game against South Gwinntte a nationally ranked team isn’t expected to trail a unranked team at any point of the game…thats all

MARIETTA FAN

September 19th, 2009
3:53 pm

Marietta 24 East Paulding 21 TICK TICK BOOM!!!!!!!!!! OH WAIT WE FORGOT TO LIGHT THE FUSE!!!!!!!!!!! I smell upset!!!!!!!

HiramHornets

September 19th, 2009
3:56 pm

i am going to laugh when East Paulding doesnt make the Playoffs when a team like Harrison sneaks in.

Viking Girl

September 19th, 2009
3:58 pm

Want to apologize to all my fellow Grayson fans on this blog. Everyone is here to support their favorite teams and just have some fun. I let that get away from me on some of my previous blogs and I do apologize. All of our boys go out every week and play hard. Yes we should be supportive and competitive but let’s leave the bashing at home. Sorry guys!!

slalom1

September 19th, 2009
4:00 pm

REEZE, You have taken away the title of “State’s Best Poker Face”.lol. Congrats.

FAYETTE AND LUELLA

September 19th, 2009
4:08 pm

Perhaps you all missed what really was the best game in the state of GA last night. The Fayette County tigers and the Luella Lions battled it out all night on the wet field. Literally all night. The first half runs kinda slow ending in a 14-7 lead for the lions. Half way through the third quarter the Tigers find themselves down 21-7. But then came the Tiger deffensive. Holding Luella to two straight three and outs and not to mention two straight blocked punts giving the tigers great field position. And running back Kendell Palmore took advantage of it. The tigers rally and score 21 unanswered points taking a 28-21 lead with little over a minute left in the game. But Luella has a little bit left up their sleeve, scoring after driving through the air to tie things up at 28 at the end of regulation. Tigers get the ball first in Overtime. The lions quickly hold Fayette County to a three and out. So here comes the field goal attempt and it is blocked. So the lions take the field knowing all they need is three points to seal the deal and walk off with a W. And almost like an instant replay the Tigers then hold Luella to a three and out. And Luellas kicker misses the field goal as his kick is to low. So yes we have Double OT. and Luella starts with possession and Scores on a second and goal from the 1 yard line. BUT the holder for the extra point is Hit by Fayette County’s Eric Lauderdale causing the score to be 34-28 Luella. So fayette county takes the field knowing this is it all or nothing. And the lions again hold the tigers to a quick three and out. So here it is 4th and inches to get a First and goal inside the five. And QB Justin Murray sneaks it and gets the first. On the following play RB Kendall Palmour uses agility and power to get into the end zone. So its all up to Kicker Ashton Hindman to win this game….Oh and let me add that Hindman has never played a game of football in his life, this is his first ever game as a football kicker. So imagine the nerves that the game would come down to him. The ball is snapped and he kicks a beautiful PAT and the Fayette County tigers rally to win the game. Fayette fans would rush the field picking up thir kicker and putting him high above the ground on their shoulders. What a night to be a Fayette Tiger and what a night for that kicker folks.

Wolverine Fan

September 19th, 2009
4:35 pm

McEarchern Fans…….Who played you tougher Woodstock or EP?

Wolverine Fan

September 19th, 2009
4:51 pm

Marietta Fan………Unless a different team that played us Friday night shows up against EP it will be another long, long night for the Blue Devils.

decatur where it is greater

September 19th, 2009
5:22 pm

Stephenson had a slow start and ware played a decent first half there were some questionable calls by the refs, but eventually stephenson wore ware down. Good game by both squads.

Pops

September 19th, 2009
5:37 pm

Wolverine Fan – I suspect we will have a lot to talk about this week.