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Fulton County orders abrupt shutdown of street food vendors

The Burro-Pollo street food vendor after being shut down

The El Burro Pollo street food vendor after being shut down

An enforcer with the Fulton County Department of Health & Wellness made the rounds of Poncey-Highland’s burgeoning street-food corridor today and shut down all vendors serving hot food in the middle of their lunch rush.

“We were told we could serve our food as long as we weren’t preparing it on the street,” said Leslie Santiago, who runs the weekends-only El Burro Pollo burrito stand with her husband, Hector.  “But today they told us we needed to have a license, even on private property.”

The Santiagos, who also operate a morning French toast stand, quickly moved the operation inside to their Super Pan Latino Sandwich Shop across the street.

Also shut down was the Atlanta Fry Guy, one block away. The King of Pops, an ice pop push cart, stayed open.

Santiago named a supervisor at the Fulton County Department of Health & Wellness whom she was told had ordered the shutdown. Calls to the health department went unanswered, as the offices are closed on Saturday.

According to the department’s website, it is simultaneously a county agency and a district in the state public health system. Fulton is the only county that has this distinction.

183 comments Add your comment

bride of puerquito

February 19th, 2011
3:06 pm

Ha Ha! Atlanta sucks…

Jon Watson

February 19th, 2011
3:09 pm

So, so lame.

bride of puerquito

February 19th, 2011
3:11 pm

food trucks aside. Does anyone care that Santi Santamaria passed away this week? because I do.

don't care

February 19th, 2011
3:12 pm

who gives a crap!

david

February 19th, 2011
3:16 pm

Nanny State Fascists

Tommyg

February 19th, 2011
3:17 pm

Anything to hurt the little man.

lynn

February 19th, 2011
3:17 pm

Absolute insanity.

Robyn Jackson

February 19th, 2011
3:18 pm

Fulton County and the APD stand idly by as suburban church folks come into downtown and serve God knows what to homeless people out of a van – and they want to shut down street vendors – this is insane!

Horsetoothedjackass

February 19th, 2011
3:19 pm

Shouldn’t the local government be concerned about much more important things, like CRIME?

Bud Flu

February 19th, 2011
3:21 pm

AAAAAAAA……….Buddy!

Joe

February 19th, 2011
3:25 pm

It is things like this that are driving folks away from Atlanta. We have a horrible city government, corruption and crime and going up, and yet the one thing we do have – a great food scene – is continuously being threatened. C’mon supervisor – who are you helping out with this shutdown? What did you get in return? What false or yet-to-be passed law will you recite in your reasoning? These food stands are helping to shape our neighborhoods and give us great destinations to go to – why don’t we work on fixing the crime that is rampant down here first and leave the things that we actually do like alone!

dmcsga

February 19th, 2011
3:30 pm

It just comes to show that southerners are just dumber than dirt! It doesn’t surprise me that the State of GA and City of Atlanta doesn’t have any money. They are experts in running things to the ground and they do deserve it! All of it

First they shut down the entire Atlanta nightlife to build condos everywhere, well the smart people of Atlanta miscalculated one thing — The people that came here were coming for the nightlife — now that it is shut down, the developments in Buckhead are half finished and all these fancy condos have a huge vacancy rate, in addition all the restaurant are shutting down. Why? No one comes down there any more – For what? Parking is completely out of control with Park Atlanta. I would never buy I condo in Midtown, Downtown or Buckhead.

They did the same thing in Tucker, once a thriving section of town with Northlake Mall having Parisians as an Anchor store, the entire Northlake area was blossoming similar to the Perimeter area, however these old ass conservative have an issue with progress, they rejected a bunch of nightlife and entertainment operations. Now when you go over there it’s like a Ghost town, majority of businesses left and are struggling, Northlake Mall turned into a flea market with a bunch of shut down stores

Any opportunity to generate revenue is being shut down by these old conservatives. They think that their old money is holding the economy here up which is false, they don’t spend money, they don’t buy anything, they just keep their property up and that’s it. Nothing goes into the neighborhoods but yet they get make all the decisions because they are deeply rooted.

Atlanta once was a promising city, but the reality is no one cares about the city, companies don’t because a lot of foreign companies are the ones setting up shop, and if you have that old southern confederate mind state, they do not want to be here. The companies need to go to progressive states and cities, leave the conservatives to rott.

The New World Order Will Fail

February 19th, 2011
3:33 pm

Well d@mn. How petty has Atlanta become? They will let grocery stores sell outdated food, aspertame laced drinks and allow the general public to drink sodium flouride in our tap water, paint the skies with aluminum and arsenic but won’t allow street vendors to exist? WTF is this world coming to? If they are going to shut down anyone’s business, it should be places like McDonalds and other fast food places who promote unhealthy eating habits and obesity. There are waaaaay to many fat a$$es rolling around the city. They are clearly more concerned with harassment than they are with the crime that plagues the city. I guess if you let the dope boys, pedophiles, rapists and thieves remain on the streets, then the police and crooked a$$ government officials will always have jobs. Now I understand why I HATE control freaks.

Brazen Unicorn

February 19th, 2011
3:36 pm

That sucks! I don’t get these folks in Atlanta.

Bobby

February 19th, 2011
3:38 pm

Sounds to me more like the Fulton County Dept. of Health and Wellness needs to be shut down instead of vendors just making a living. One more example of government interference.

anon

February 19th, 2011
3:40 pm

caveat emptor; Let the buyer beware.

Seems when individual start to find legitimate work instead of looking for handouts the government shuts them down. How on earth are we ever going to create jobs and get out of the recession if the government keeps interfering?

The Real Foodie

February 19th, 2011
3:40 pm

Do they require a license in LA?

ATLien

February 19th, 2011
3:42 pm

What else does the city have to worry about? I mean who cares that property crime here is the worst in the nation, APS can’t educate kids, gangs, drugs…those all pale in comparison to great food being sold on private property. This city and state are so backwards it’s pathetic. Smoke wherever you please but don’t even think about buying a bottle of wine on Sunday!

eric

February 19th, 2011
3:42 pm

I feel sorry for the vendors–harming no one. Ridiculous gov’t intrusion!

eric

February 19th, 2011
3:45 pm

I feel sorry for the vendors–they’re harming no one and serve people who need help. This kind of gov’t intrusion is unjustified.

Wrong

February 19th, 2011
3:47 pm

Fulton County has certainly missed out on an opportunity to collect revenue. They could sell the licenses to these businesses and allow them to setup shop and move around as they please. There has to be some type of structure for them to exist.

abby

February 19th, 2011
3:48 pm

Such a ridiculous thing to target! These are taxpaying businesses that are bringing visitors to our neighborhoods, encouraging foot traffic to our stores, and starting to form a cultural fabric for the city! Especially with the O4W park opening up around the corner soon, street food is something we WANT in our neighborhood!

Sure, anyone selling food should have a permit. But the permitting process should be a simple one, one that is not extraordinarily expensive, and one that ends in a person actually obtaining a permit that allows them to sell food on public property. I don’t think whatever Atlanta has in place hits on any of those factors just yet.

Yo mama

February 19th, 2011
3:49 pm

yall kill me talking about gov’t intrusion. but as soon as someone gets sick or finds a rat in their food, then everybody will shout that the gov’t needs to do more. seriously. make up your mind and stick to one side. take a solid stand.

martin

February 19th, 2011
3:50 pm

Most cities if not all require a licence. Go out and get one for pete’s sake. I don’t see the problem here.

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Bobby

February 19th, 2011
3:54 pm

@Yo Mama
Show me the rat ever found in one of these vendor’s foods.

revolution

February 19th, 2011
3:56 pm

You are on borrowed time, Barney Harmon. Borrowed time.

JayInAtlanta

February 19th, 2011
3:59 pm

Okay, I love the street food culture in other cities. So let me ask: do the street food vendors in NYC, SFO, and LA need licenses before they can serve, even on private property? I don’t know, because the scene there is so established. However, I bet they do need to be licensed.

Of course Atlanta is looking at this as a money issue. But the cities I mentioned, now including Atlanta, also have a responsibility to guard the public health. I’ve had really terrible poisoning a few times in my life, and I don’t want to risk it again. So I personally avoid the “underground” food culture, even though I know full well about some of the events.

The street food market is NOT underground when it is in places as out-in-the-open as a parking lot in the Highlands. Tourists and locals deserve the safest food possible. They expect the food to be kept at the correct temperature in functioning equipment. If that means licensing the vendors (especially if other cities do it), then I’m in favor.

revolution

February 19th, 2011
4:03 pm

As for all you “get a license” morons go, SuperPan was told they do not need one since they aren’t even cooking the food outside, t hey cook it across the street in their restaurant. What’s next, shut down families having picnics? No, the Fulton County Department of Health & Wellness is what is going to be shut down next.

JB

February 19th, 2011
4:04 pm

At least they didn’t shut down King of Pops. They’re the only ones I care about, really.

Devils Advocate

February 19th, 2011
4:08 pm

@ Davey Boy Smith: Not all African Americans fit the stereotype that you describe. In fact, the majority of African Americans do not. Many possess degrees from LEGITIMATE universities and don’t even watch the Real Housewives of Atlanta.

Regarding OJ: INNOCENT! haha!

Mike

February 19th, 2011
4:15 pm

They shut down the food vendors, so now everyone is going to move somewhere else? LOL, how old are you people again?

Maybe that is why nothing changes here. Instead of moving, call or email the Fulton County Health Department and complain. Better yet, don’t vote for these morons. The demographics in Atlanta have changed a lot for the better and will continue to do so. And I mean, it does kind of make sense that you would need a license…

TML

February 19th, 2011
4:19 pm

@dmcsga: “Southern conservatives” do not run Atlanta/Fulton/DeKalb County anymore…black people do. Mostly everyone in the top and mid-levels of Atlanta/Fulton/DeKalb County government are blacks – NOT ‘redneck Southern conservatives’. Your anger is correct, but where you direct it is woefully misplaced.

JayInAtlanta

February 19th, 2011
4:23 pm

Did anyone consider that the Dept of Health got involved because someone ate some bad food earlier this week? I’ve called in a complaint about a brick-and-mortar place before, and it was taken seriously. Who knows if food had been sitting out for hours at an unsafe temperature – don’t care where it was prepared – and the Dept reacted to a legitimate complaint?

Shutting down a health department is not the answer. And no, they won’t come after picnics, because no one is charging people money and inviting them to try picnic food that may or may not be safe.

FML

February 19th, 2011
4:24 pm

I would have a food cart by now if the laws here weren’t so utterly retarded. You’re kneecapped from the getgo. I do not know why. I have worked in kitchens in this city for years and there is so much dumb unsafe stuff that goes on in between health inspections that my mind reels. But if I wanted to sell some nice sandwiches on a griddle on a cart where I’m controlling everything it’s illegal.

Truth

February 19th, 2011
4:28 pm

Atlanta is only happy with any business as long is it is catering to blacks.

FML

February 19th, 2011
4:31 pm

^ Hey they were chicken burritos

Kwanza Hall

February 19th, 2011
4:31 pm

This is not acceptable! We have already reached out to County Commissioners and will update you shortly. LOVE Streetfood.

TimInAtl

February 19th, 2011
4:31 pm

Atlanta makes it next to impossible to run a food truck here. City and State laws clash in this example:

1. Vendors MUST be in 1 of 2 locations so they can be easily found by the health dept.
2. A vendor CANNOT stay at a public location for more than a half hour.

So… if you don’t have private property to park your truck, one can only sell in one location for a half hour, before moving to location 2 to sell for a half hour, then close-up for the day/evening, because one can no longer legally sell food that day. Only festivals are exempt from these requirements.

Also, food must be prepared in a kitchen NOT shared by anyone.
In most cities, food for trucks are prepared at shared commissaries (kitchens).

A partner and myself wanted to run a food truck, be we’re scraping the idea.
We have friend that runs a business with a commercial kitchen that we we’re going to use. Well, not legal in Atlanta, because that would mean 2 parties would be sharing a kitchen. Retarded…

These are the reasons Atlanta CANNOT have a thriving mobile food scene, until these laws are changed anyway…

For those of you who think street food is a dangerous, unregulated crap shoot, please do some research, they are inspected just like brick and mortar restaurants. Oh, and the only time I’ve ever gotten food poisoning (2x), was at sit-in restaurants.

Hominid X

February 19th, 2011
4:32 pm

Licensing here is a difficult task, which is why we don’t have much street food culture.

To people making it about race: please, go die in a fire, in front of your family.

FML

February 19th, 2011
4:35 pm

Thanks for spelling it out Tim. Hector was walking a thin line with using his parking lot, and now we know how that goes.

TimInAtl

February 19th, 2011
4:37 pm

Oh and in regards to my comments above regarding the requirement to be in 1 of two places only…

I forgot to mention, these 2 locations must be on your license application, long before you even set up shop. I do not know what kind of hoops one must jump through to change your location. A nightmare, I’m sure…

FML

February 19th, 2011
4:38 pm

I don’t have much hope for this ever changing in the near future either seeing as how we still can’t buy a freaking six pack from the grocery store on a Sunday.

Hell Bent

February 19th, 2011
4:40 pm

People People People !!! Have any of you forgot that The Great City Of Atlanta Is BROKE and they are trying to find any method means or know how to get monies flowing back into the hands of the Corrupt !!!

Rudy

February 19th, 2011
4:41 pm

Well, that is what you get when you have a bunch of Democrats running your city!

count_schemula

February 19th, 2011
4:42 pm

In the early mid 90’s Atlanta was so much raw clay. Almost every single thing that has happened since is a guide on how NOT to do things. Symbolically, Atlanta died when Oxford books closed and Backstreets was finally shut down. The developers did a horrible job with the Inman Park area by Elizabeth Street. Atlantic Station is a place I never want to go for so many reasons. The whole condo craze has just turned the entire city into insta slums. The streets are in such bad repair that why even have a nice car just so you can bust a tire on a steel plate or have it broken into when parked. Where are the bike lanes? Who would even ride a bike in a city where running red lights is equal to street cred? Ever seen a handicapped person park in a handicap spot? Atlanta could have been great, but instead we sold out cheap and just went for massive shiithole.

TimInAtl

February 19th, 2011
4:44 pm

Eh, no, it was conservatives who wanted unsightly street vendors off the streets once Atlanta came into prominence via the Olympics…

TimInAtl

February 19th, 2011
4:46 pm

@count_schemula… I agree with most of what you said. City of Atlanta is woefully short-sighted….

FML

February 19th, 2011
4:48 pm

Hey at least we have the beltline. Oh wait it’s a dirt path that’s only good for getting mugged.

FML

February 19th, 2011
4:51 pm

King of Pops is in basically the only market (frozen, prepackaged) that the law allows.

Rudy

February 19th, 2011
4:53 pm

Democrats . . . Man, we got the same problem in DeKalb!

count_schemula

February 19th, 2011
4:55 pm

Oh, sorry, I got sidetracked… on the street food thing, most of world has street food. Not every meal needs to come from a sit down restaurant, especially when $20 for 2 is the price threshold. Street food does not fight with restaurants for business, but is rather a solid alternative to awful fast food. When I went to Georgia State in the 90s, I ate a lot of Barker’s Hot Dogs. That was some quality right there that I would take any day over McDs or BK or Wendys. Taco Bell is not tacos, but a street truck has every possibility of serving up some awesome tacos. Street food gets people on the street, something this city seems to everything it can to avoid.

Rudy

February 19th, 2011
4:55 pm

TimInAtl:

Look at the ballot a little closer next time you vote in Atlanta. The “D” stands for Democrat!

Jennifer

February 19th, 2011
4:58 pm

And yet they can’t do anything to stop people from selling crack on the streets of boulevard. This is infuriating.

godhelpusacom

February 19th, 2011
5:02 pm

Local people and street traffic buying local food from people that use that money to pay taxes and buy more local goods, which helps create local jobs. What is wrong with these people! We all know food stamps and buying prepackaged food from a big chain supermarket is much better for people and the local economy.

If the local code enforcement does not draw the line here, the next thing you know people will be growing and selling their own vegetables from stands!

ATL

February 19th, 2011
5:03 pm

Gee– such mis-information and down-right bigotry– obviously most by folks who haven’t set foot in town in years (if ever)… The health department here and in every city control what foods can be sold and consumed, in a restaurant or on the street in front of it– for very good (public health) reasons…. obviously the permit process DOES have some work to do to get in line with the trend for Food Trucks and Sidewalk food… As for the race things– not even worth a comment except that the Fry man IS African American… and popsicles are sold, but not MADE on the street (thank Goodness)–
Public feedback does have its downside… sad, the vast ignorance and downright stupidity out there…

Joel Rabe

February 19th, 2011
5:03 pm

HA HA HA to the Bank….
Funny – this is not a big deal – get the license then HA HA HA to the bank while your “competition” keeps getting shut down… imagine if even one vendor would have had his license today – he/she would have had a lot of business today… A license ensures your at least serious about your business and are not cooking up your food in the back of your car. _
Take care of your Business

FML

February 19th, 2011
5:05 pm

What ‘work’ is there to do besides change some antiquated laws. Why does this take years as opposed to hours.

FML

February 19th, 2011
5:08 pm

Rabe, there’s no license that is even gettable read the earlier posts. Also you’re a douche.

TGinAtl

February 19th, 2011
5:10 pm

Interesting:
“An enforcer with the Fulton County Department of Health & Wellness made the rounds of Poncey-Highland’s burgeoning street-food corridor today and shut down all vendors serving hot food in the middle of their lunch rush.”
… and somehow everyone then pounces on the city. (Can’t you read??? Fulton COUNTY not Atlanta….)
Guess the critics (and there appear to be a WHOLE lot of ‘em here!) have just a tiny bit of trouble reading…. goes to figure.
Now it would be good to have decent, safe street food. That’s an issue that can be resolved.

The Quick + Dirty Dirty · Big Time Bummer

February 19th, 2011
5:11 pm

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Bubba

February 19th, 2011
5:12 pm

TimInAtl, it was democrat Bill Campbell, mayor of Atlanta that SCREWED a bunch of street vendors during the Olympics here. DEMOCRAT!!!

count_schemula

February 19th, 2011
5:14 pm

As long as everyone can put everything into neat little boxes with labels who cares.

Vile Personal attacks

February 19th, 2011
5:25 pm

The bickering and personal attacks in these comments are EXACTLY the reason why we cannot see any progress made in addressing the street food laws in this town. As soon as there is a controversy we start blaming each other, our race, our political affiliation, our religion….all the things that make us different from each other. Until we learn to embrace our diversity we will continue to fall down this dreaded spiral of doom. Stop hiding behind the anonymity to spew your hatred. If you don’t like street food or the concept of it – don’t support it and don’t eat it…it’s as simple as that. If you do like it, find constructive ways to support it and the modifications to the laws limiting it.

I’m glad I had an opportunity to CHOOSE to try one of the burritos at Burro-Pollo last weekend. Noone forced me to do so. It was my CHOICE.

Lynda

February 19th, 2011
5:28 pm

Well at least Atlanta is ONLY NUMBER 2 IN CRIME……Now they are NUMBER 1 in DUMBNESS…… What or whom are the food vendors hurting? Oh wait, they are people who could be on Welfare or in the Homeless shelters taking up a bed……I get it Atalnta is losing money because these people are making a living for themselfs. Come on Atlanta you are killing yourself by all of the DUMB moves you are making….I wont come inside 285 because it is a mess in there. If you park wrong then you get BOOTED and it cost you an arm and a leg to get your car….So who wants to come into THE CITY anymore!

Shane T.

February 19th, 2011
5:28 pm

Very fine point about non profits serving the homeless in Atlanta, and the need for a license to do so. They are doing nothing different from a street food vendor. Amazing what the City of Atlanta will do to push business and tax revenue out of business. City officials have no idea how to run a business, much less a city. No business, means no tax revenue! Idiots! We can feed the hungry bad food, but can’t give the city something it needs, and wants. City government getting in the way as usual!

Bill C.

February 19th, 2011
5:30 pm

It’s not as if these vendors just started selling food yesterday. Where has the health enforcement been for the last few months? There have been numerous articles about the food trucks on the pages of this newspaper for the last 6 months.

If anyone here has ever tried to go through the process of getting a building permit or liquor license from Fulton Co. or City of Atlanta, then you understand the staggering level of incompetence and laziness within those departments. It is almost at a 3rd-World Level. Words really don’t do justice to how painful it is to deal with those people.

Hey, good news though, products of that APS education now have the opportunity to get an MBA from Beulah Heights University! I almost drove off the road laughing when I saw that billboard the other day.

Bwana

February 19th, 2011
5:57 pm

“shame on a brother whose dealing!”

count_schemula

February 19th, 2011
6:17 pm

“The same block where my ‘98 be wheelin’”

J. Angel

February 19th, 2011
6:36 pm

The 3 times I’ve gotten food poison was from restaurants with legitimate licenses and Fulton County Health Department APPROVALs! The Mayor needs to clean house. I can’t wait to get the h@ll of this state and I don’t understand why any company would locate here with the APS education results and crime stats.

ATLien

February 19th, 2011
6:41 pm

I hope they make sure the pancake breakfast at church has a permit.
Better yet, Hector and ATL Fry Guy should move to Decatur/Dekalb Dounty

count_schemula

February 19th, 2011
6:51 pm

Doggone, I forgot just how awesome that song really is…

http://www.streetdirectory.com/lyricadvisor/song/ewacff/night_of_the_living_baseheads/

Not every person of color is happy with the state of affairs on Boulevard or Donald Lee Hollowell.

Michele

February 19th, 2011
7:07 pm

You’re editing is once again wrong – Clayton and DeKalb County are also county and district health departments. But, I have little idea what that has to do with the price of tea in China, or burritos on N. Highland.

bikeman

February 19th, 2011
7:22 pm

amazing…this city/county’s Government needs an enema. Just another way to keep the folks that don’t want to EARN a living on the payroll. If you don’t want something to eat off of the street, don’t buy it…I want the choice. FREE HOT DOGS at 632 N. HIGHLAND next SAT.!!

FML

February 19th, 2011
7:24 pm

Fulton County Health & Wellness
99 Jesse Hill Junior Drive Southeast
Atlanta, GA 30303-3045
(404) 730-1211

How about everyone who gives a flying poo about this just show up at Barney’s office monday and get some clarification on why the laws are so stupid and why almost a year after hector started selling burritos across the street from his own restaurant they suddenly decided it was illegal.

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mre

February 19th, 2011
7:35 pm

We were told that if we used a smoker with an awning that a bird could still fly over and poop on the food. They wont let you cook chicken or any number of things even if you have hot water, covered prep and cook. I dont get it as long as you are sanitary and respect food handling rules – its call refrigeration! what lame people we have in Govt.

bikeman

February 19th, 2011
7:40 pm

FML, will Barney be there…it is a holiday…?

FML

February 19th, 2011
8:25 pm

Oh snap it is a holiday. Ah well. I’ll see you next weekend I need some new tubes.

This is horrible PR for the people holding back all the food truck legislation if we play it right.

starry

February 19th, 2011
8:31 pm

I am furious. I live in Poncey-Highland and the neighborhood was alive today with positive energy on such a beautiful day. WE are proud of our restaurants and the street food vendors who have popped up. folks even come in from OTP to stand in line for a burrito. What is going on? I blame it all on Ray Lewis!!!!!

Anonymous

February 19th, 2011
8:31 pm

It’s always dumass crap like this from Atlanta City Government that does and will ALWAYS make Atlanta a 3rd class city…..

matty

February 19th, 2011
8:32 pm

requiring a business license is standard practice. If they are running a business, get a license and keep on serving, whats the problem, dont you want to make sure it is somewhat sanctioned to feed you, or do you want who knows what served to you ?

count_schemula

February 19th, 2011
8:47 pm

Then make it easy enough to get a license. Sure, license people. You do want to know who is doing what where. You want a way to track complaints. But some of the rules sound pretty stupid. And anyone who has visited a city government office is amazed at how backwards everything is and how jaded most of the employees are.

Santa Ana

February 19th, 2011
8:57 pm

Just move back to Mexico.

hlthnut

February 19th, 2011
9:07 pm

Bottom line….You are required to have certain license and permits to operate a food stand and must meet certain health standards….This is no secret….Restaurants must do it so food stands are no different….Let me guess, you all are the same ones that will say the health and wellness department are not doing enough when you get sick from eating at these places….

Freedom Lover

February 19th, 2011
9:43 pm

Just another example of why the market is superior to government and the political process for EVERYTHING. Government is supposed to protect rights and even on private property they violate them. Government is the greatest evil every american faces. There is always the claim of safety, but in truth it is all about power and protection of the monopoly that other businesses enjoy as the result of their protection money in the form of licenses (and back room payoffs). There was once freedom in this country. Yes, this is just about lunch trucks, but it is only one among hundreds of thousands of examples of government overreach and violations of basic human rights.

Freedom Lover

February 19th, 2011
9:45 pm

Licensure is just another way to restrict entry for smaller businesses. There must always be liability for harm done to others, but a license is no guarantee of safety or quality. It is just a guarantee that the government power will be used to aid existing businesses in their desire to be free from competition.

OldTimer

February 19th, 2011
9:48 pm

Might be time to move.

FML

February 19th, 2011
9:50 pm

All these dumb ‘herp derp just get the license’ dorks don’t realize that they are requiring a license that is nigh-impossible to get.

Andre

February 19th, 2011
9:59 pm

So, you’re telling me that you people are actually mad at the GOVERNMENT for ACTUALLY DOING their JOB???? Did you even consider a person may have phone in a complaint because they may have saw a street vendor do something disgusting?

Mike

February 19th, 2011
10:04 pm

Why don’t they shut the crack vendors down?

FML

February 19th, 2011
10:06 pm

Andre if you were familiar with the vendors in question I don’t think you’d be speculating that they’re doing anything disgusting. Hector’s a Culinary Institute of America graduate and he takes serious pride in his work and probably knows more about food safety than any given inspector. And how concerned are you really about getting sick from the french fry guy?

I See

February 19th, 2011
10:14 pm

I see that the typical assortments of race-baiters, whiners, city bashers, and clowns have shown up on this topic.

Reality Train

February 19th, 2011
10:16 pm

Why do they shut them down during the lunch rush except to flex their power? Put the boot on the neck of the little guy …

I See

February 19th, 2011
10:18 pm

Some of you clowns are not even aware of the fact that the Fulton county health department is not a part of the city government.

I See

February 19th, 2011
10:25 pm

FML,

Noone commenting here is going to show up an ANYONE’S office because the don’t genuinely care. Its just another excuse to b*tch about something with little effort and no consequences..

Hoho

February 19th, 2011
10:27 pm

Unfortunately, the only things the city government in Atlanta are good for are for sucking money out of residents and making life generally difficult. What is this?! The mafia? EVERYONE having anything to do with permits in this awful city should be fired, but really if Atlanta wants to survive, there needs to be one giant turnover. Or there should be a mass exodus from this mess of incompetence and corruption. Something needs to change though….

Intown Foodie

February 19th, 2011
10:56 pm

Shame Shame Atlanta politicians. Your action today is a symptom of a much bigger issue. These are good local small business people bringing joy to the neighborhood. Our taxpayer resources need to be used to keep criminals from breaking into our homes and businesses. @kwanzahall Get off your @$$ and listen to the people that put you in office. Shame on you!

janet

February 19th, 2011
10:58 pm

So maybe all the food vendors should offer their food for free and accept donations from their customers. They can be food distributors to street people who are hungry just like the Churches who distribute food without any oversight for health, cleanliness and refrigeration.

FML

February 19th, 2011
11:23 pm

No, I’m going to be talking to these people this week. I’ve been waiting patiently for these retarded laws to change so I can start my own food cart and this just indicates that they give absolutely no fcuk about moving forward on this. Seriously, are these people elected or appointed, and if they’re appointed who appoints them?

Helen

February 19th, 2011
11:29 pm

We went down to see the FryGuy for the first time today just to find out that he had been shut down (along with the others). My first thought was the same as Janet’s, just tell the folks that the food is free but donations are gladly accepted. Some folks would take advantage but the vast majority of the folks that I saw walking around today looked like folks who would pony up some cash…I know that I would have! I’m going to make certain that if I get a chance again that I make certain that these folks get my “donation” to their cause!

FML

February 19th, 2011
11:32 pm

Also for real they need to shut down those churches. I actually had some of their BBQ once and tried to donate and it wasn’t bad and it was probably quite safe to eat. It’s an attractive nuisance though and there are trails of trash in every direction from the bums who they feed. That and they can play by the same rules as anybody else trying to improve the quality of life around them.

JayInAtlanta

February 20th, 2011
1:46 am

I’m glad the Atlanta Street Food Coalition (www.atlantastreetfood.com) exists to get groups of merchants to try to affect positive change. These kinds of issues are bound to happen in cities and urban counties as they’re just establishing a street food culture (some big cities, like Boston, don’t technically allow street food at all).

Here is an article I found quickly on what would be required to get all the appropriate licenses to sell street food in Atlanta: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091015053522AAg8Zvu. All of the requirements themselves seem reasonable.

If the process really does require that the cart can only be at two locations per day, or whatever else people said earlier, that’s too bad the requirements weren’t designed to be street-food friendly. But I can understand some growing pains. Even in major street food markets on the west coast, the trend has been kind of recent and I’m sure it’s still a struggle.

As to the folks who say they’ve only gotten food poisoning at brick-and-mortar restaurants, umm, yeah…because we have pretty much ONLY had brick-and-mortar restaurants here until about a year ago. That doesn’t change the fact that Fulton County or any other county has every right to make sure food that’s being sold in full view of residents and tourists is safe (whether it’s outdoor private property like parking lots, or true public property).

I doubt anyone commenting has any clue why this happened so suddenly, and I’d like to have an open mind that there’s a possibility they got a valid complaint. Just because, until NOW, you’ve only been able to get e-coli poisoning at a sit-down restaurant, doesn’t mean it CAN’T happen with food on the streets.

Rick Day

February 20th, 2011
2:25 am

I know Barney the health supervisor who shut down the booths. He is a fair man, and if he shut down those booths, it is because they were not in compliance.

If FCHD did not enforce health codes on all establishments equally, the resulting outbreak of food poisoning would send you all screaming for their heads.

So which is more important, selling tacos on the street or ensuring the food safety for citizens?

dmcsga

February 20th, 2011
2:39 am

TML – The State of GA is and wouldn’t surprise me if they have them do the dirty work. The last time I checked it was this Buckhead group (bunch of conservatives) that was a big part of getting the Buckhead nightlife shutdown, also the Tucker area demise was due to the conservatives that rallied against any entertainment complex coming into their neighborhood.
So I do blame them for the most part and for the majority of bad things that go on here.

dmcsga

February 20th, 2011
2:45 am

There are a lot of licensed restaurants that will jeopardize your food, your health and have done so for years. I received food poisoning from a licensed establishment that had a 95% inspection grade. Anyone from Domino’s to Olive Garden, etc. has violated. So that doesn’t make sense. Other cities can do it but I guess Atlanta is not capable, maybe it is because the education is so below average that they are not really able to make it happen.

Don’t cry about your state and city going broke when you can’t think progressively and implement innovative ways to generate revenue. Also a license only means paying the gov. their part in reality they don’t give a rats a.. about your health

TAG

February 20th, 2011
3:04 am

Barney is douche and I hope someone from 30-Deep shoots him in the face.

anon

February 20th, 2011
3:25 am

the health department does nothing really. Either a company cares about their customers or they will lose them. We all hear stories of people getting food poisoning anyways, and our initial reaction is to accept our friends argument avoid those companies. It’s very toxic for a company not to care about the quality of their product-especially in the food industry. The health department doesn’t protect the consumer, it merely seeks to seize a companies assets and when it fines a company the govt gets the money-not the victims if they even exist. In the end, the free market and common sense does more to protect the customer than the govt ever could.
Food from street vendors are probably high risk, but they can’t force a person to either buy or eat their food. If someone gets sick it is their own fault.

hgd

February 20th, 2011
4:54 am

dmcsga – the county and city are run by democrats not old conservatives.

restaurant owner

February 20th, 2011
6:48 am

many of the food vendors in this area did not have a business lic. It’s something they should have done before opening business. Not only that, i think the AJC articles detailing the vendors in 5 points with Fry Guy and other vendors opened the eyes of some inspectors and they checked to see if they had proper licenses. in any state, you must have a business license.

restaurant owner

February 20th, 2011
6:54 am

also, Health Inspectors are really protecting the general public. I know a lot of people in the restaurant business and these are not the people you want making food without some sort of checks and balances. many of these restaurants would have killed patrons to save a few pennies if not for the enforcement of important health codes. Don’t blame the health department, blame the street vendors for not permitting or doing business as required in fulton county.

banksteroflove

February 20th, 2011
7:31 am

the problem is the system we have in our society. it is not any one person’s fault. then answer is a new way of thinking. http://www.zeitgeistmovingforward.com

the watchful eye

February 20th, 2011
7:32 am

Personally, I like the fast fod vendoring. I remember getting a couple of hotdogs and then realizing there was no place to sit, went into a bank and ate there. Nothing better than eating where the money is.

pay off

February 20th, 2011
8:00 am

the competitors called the police, made some payoffs, and the vendors were shut down—it’s that easy in atlanta! Pay the right people and government cracks heads at your command.

John

February 20th, 2011
8:35 am

Citizens get attacked in neighborhoods.Walking after dark is dangerous.But let’s prosecute the true criminal element;the street food vendors.
Only in Atlanta!!

ticket2it

February 20th, 2011
8:45 am

when you demand the government to fix crime, their solution, hire more police… if you want to fix crime, bring in more JOBS !!!!

restaurant owner

February 20th, 2011
8:49 am

All these people have to do is register their business and get permitted, just like every other restaurant in this city. Private property has nothing to do with it. My restaurant is on property i own, burt it still has to be permitted. And to the idiot that mentioned lack of taxes etc for the dimise of the city, it is these veners that are part or the problem. They operate without paying a dim to the city. All those other cities you mentioned the street venders are all permitted and paying the system.

Jason

February 20th, 2011
9:00 am

what dmcsga said

Jason

February 20th, 2011
9:04 am

haha how is this the leading city of the south again? some retard “native” redneck bible beater atlanta moron chime with a bunch of crap, go ahead…

sally

February 20th, 2011
10:00 am

Something is fishy here. I do not believe that this was a result of someone eating bad food at a cart, that should result in action against that one vendor. My guess is that this an attempt to extort fees from the vendors that previously were not required. The implementation is disgusting that these businesses would be shut down mid-day instead of phasing in the licensing requirements in a orderly planned fashion. But then you have to figure who you are dealing with, a bunch of neanderthal Atlanta bureaucrats who have no respect for the common person. They can’t do much of anything that works. Remember when they shut down the party scene in town and then tried to grant themselves an exception for bars in the city owned Underground Atlanta but nobody in their right mind wants to go down to that cesspool so that plan flopped. Once again the Atlanta buffoons should pat themselves on their collective backs for a job “well done” in true Atlanta style.

Mark

February 20th, 2011
10:03 am

To repeat for all the mindless Atlanta haters: The action was taken by the Fulton County Department of Health & Wellness which, “According to the department’s website….is simultaneously a county agency and a district in the state public health system.” Fulton County is not the city of Atlanta. The state public health system is run by our state, which is called Georgia (which is dominated by Republicans).

Jay Son

February 20th, 2011
10:15 am

Restaurant owner -

You and everybody else who said something similar are missing the point. In “all the other cities” that were mentioned, there actually ARE street food vendors, which shows you that those cities either (i) don’t require a permit/license, or (ii) have a permitting and licensing system that actually works and that actually ALLOWS street vendors on terms that let these businesses be economically viable.

Our stupid government shuts people down for not having the proper licenses/permits – but it won’t issue the proper licenses/permits in the first place, or it issues them on terms that make the operation of these businesses impossible. This effectively outlaws street food vendors in our city. I realize this is fine with you, because you don’t want more competition, but people in Atlanta obviously want street food, like other cities have, and the government should enable this not fight it.

Horsetoothedjackass

February 20th, 2011
10:28 am

Atlanta wants to consider itself a “world class city”, but as long as officials in the local government, be it at the city or county level, stifle small business owners, Atlanta will never be a “world class city”. Look at places like New York, Los Angeles, Portland, OR, Boston, and Austin where street food vendors is a way of life (And we’re not just talking about “dirty water hot dogs”.). Chicago is in many ways like Atlanta in regards to street food vendors and has some very strict laws that like in Atlanta, has stifled the growth of these vendors.

In all honesty, if the Fulton County health inspectors want to do the public some service, they need to start inspecting convenience stores and those mobile lunch trucks (AKA roach coaches) that pop up at work sites.

Some of the people commenting here are showing their ignorance by trying to make this about race. We’ve all seen folks selling hot dogs, bbq, fried fish, hamburgers, etc. along the side of the road in many parts of the Metro Area. I know I would never buy something from such an establishment because you cannot be assured that proper food safety and handling techniques are being used. The same goes for the rolling taco trucks you see in some areas outside of Atlanta/Fulton County as well (although you don’t see those as often as you did a few years ago.). In these cases, these are people operating on the fringe and more than likely have no sort of license and are operating much in the same way as a kid with a lemonade stand (In some parts of the country, local health departments have shut down kids selling lemonade for health code reasons.).

There really needs to be a unified guideline for street food vendors that supersedes any current regulations. They ought to use the street food vendor regulations that are in place in cities like New York as a guideline to go off of and then tweak it as necessary to fit the situation here in Atlanta.

Goose

February 20th, 2011
10:30 am

Seriously? this sucks. Our local gov’t always ruins good things. Its like they are trying to hold Atlanta back.

sdfg

February 20th, 2011
10:34 am

That’s Government for you! Everything we do, the Government has one finger up our butt to make sure we are doing it right. License for this, Fees for that, Permit here, Registration there, Inspections… Why can’t they just leave us alone to be FREE? I am so glad the recent recession has put a damper on Government expansion due to the loss of Tax Revenue. The whole thing needs to be scaled down to one tenth the size it is now.

FML

February 20th, 2011
10:37 am

@Jay Son – seriously I don’t see how this is so hard to grasp for some people

And apparently one reason we can’t just adopt the codes from NY, SF, Austin, Portland, or any other dozens of other awesome cities is because the city is spread across two counties. Apparently getting them to collaborate or put together something workable is an impossible task.

anon

February 20th, 2011
10:49 am

Really, restaurant owner, will the Atlanta come to an end if we stopped government theft through licenses? It seems to be the case that people were creating economic growth without the government. Don’t tell me you are a Keynesian who only sees the government as the producer of jobs and growth; the let’s bury money and contract people to dig it up crowd?
You seem to be rehashing the governments position on taxes but without a real understanding why. When our country first started, the towns didn’t tax everyone or require a fee or permit for everything. Instead they took bids from the town people on who could collect the most money through voluntary contributions from the town. If a surplus was made the collector could keep it, otherwise if the collector failed to collect he was imprisoned until the difference was paid. Furthermore, our federal congress didn’t rely on the federal income tax, but instead duties on imports. Our country was able to thrive and grow fast without the government in our lives without shaking it out of their constituents.
The problem is over the centuries we have politicians and, to an extent,the courts who have taken too much freedom and liberty from the people to advance their causes. We have merely accepted it is the role of the government to provide transportation, safety, education, social welfare because we were born into such a system and many of us have never challenged those concepts. The reality is as long as there are needs there will be businesses, nonprofits, or even ourselves to meet those needs-the idea we need government is preposterous. Paying the government money is not going to help society, other than allow politicians to make a name for themselves and allow the government more power to steal both our freedom and economic prosperity.

Anna in Poncey-Highland

February 20th, 2011
11:06 am

Hang on folks – I am confident this situation is going to get rectified. I have been advised that Commissioners Eaves and Garner and Councilman Kwanza Hall already have plans in place to meet about this on Monday to work toward a quick resolution. I’d like for us to keep the pressure on (feel free to write them and let them know you support street food in Atlanta) but would also like to give them the opportunity to both fix this situation AND get legislation aligned between the County and the City to insure support of street food vending going forward.

I agree, the City has been too slow moving on important pending legislation needed to properly support street food vending. Please contact your Councilman/woman and tell them to move on this legislation NOW.

TML

February 20th, 2011
11:07 am

@dmcsga – (1) The folks in charge of state government are NOT conservatives. Sure, they make great Republicans, but they aren’t conservatives. (2) When you mention problems in Tucker, those started during a time when the state government was run by King Roy and the Libs – Democrats. (3) Liberals have been in charge of Atlanta/Fulton/DeKalb Counties for over 40 years now…how can you NOT lay this at their feet? (4) Are you opposed to people having the final say over what goes on and in their neighborhoods? Do you want them forced to accept certain establishments they don’t want, just to satisfy YOU?

Sharon

February 20th, 2011
11:09 am

So much for entrepreneurship in Atlanta….

So, once you shut down all the unique places people enjoy, using all the corrupt and trifling cops and inspectors speckled through your ranks, what will happen to the future of all the kids who fell through the cracks created by your cheating educators???

Sharon

February 20th, 2011
11:10 am

can Atlantans demand a referendum to change this, or do we need to just boot these ignoramuses out of office?

Andy

February 20th, 2011
11:29 am

All the vendors without licenses are violating the law if you don’t have a business license how do you and what name do you use to send in your sales taxes to the state each month. I bet none of you bother to get a tax # from the Ga Revenue Dept.

Sis

February 20th, 2011
11:39 am

Why should they be allowed to operate a business without paying taxes when their ‘competitors’ are forced to pay thousands in taxes. what if the neighborhood restaurants all refused to pay taxes? I love street food and want to see more of it in Atlanta but it does need to be regulated.

Cutty

February 20th, 2011
11:39 am

A lot of people need a civics lesson. While you may have a point about the permitting/licensing process, the City didn’t shut anything down. The FULTON COUNTY Health Department did. Learn about your government’s organizational structure before you post dumb comments. Don’t see any street food being sold in Smyrna, Marietta, or Norcross either. Maybe this region is just new to the idea and needs a learning curve.

They would be helped by visiting other cities to see their best practices. That would cost money, and no one on this blog wants to spend a nickel for anything. This generation wants everything for nothing, and maybe thats the problem.

Jcatl

February 20th, 2011
12:02 pm

I think I’m going to move to a more progressive, open-minded state, like Alabama.

Boywonder

February 20th, 2011
12:03 pm

Atlanta / Fulton County = Planet of the Apes

Perry

February 20th, 2011
12:05 pm

1. Laws exist to protect the public from people who sell contaminated foods just for profit, but don’t care about safety.
2. Government agencise exist to ensure that the public is safe.
3. Monies collected from permits help to offset the expenses incurred in having laws and agencies.
4. The public is not against entrepreneurs or start-up business regardless of where and how they are started.
5. I disagree with some of the approaches to removing law-breakers’ businesses.
6. The process for obtaining a business license and a food license should be simplified to attract new business to Atlanta and Georgia instead of discouraging new start-ups or expansions via the public street.
7. We need to resolve the inconsistencies by petitioning our legislators to design laws and guidelines to promote business in Atlanta/Georgia.

sdfg

February 20th, 2011
12:05 pm

We just want to be left alone. I don’t need the Government Health Dept to tell me if a vendors food has passed their “Inspection”. If I eat it and it makes me sick, I won’t eat there again. The Fulton County Health Dept is a joke. Have you seen some of the fast food restaurant reports that they score at 100? I wouldn’t eat at a lot of them. Worthless Government,

Oh Yeah

February 20th, 2011
12:55 pm

How does race come into the picture? Isn’t this about small business and government? Wow…Not surprising, such ignorant people live in the south. Love the south, but ignorance is indeed blitz.

Andre

February 20th, 2011
1:06 pm

FML,
I don’t care if he studied with the great chef’s from France or went Le Cordon Bleu. Laws are Laws, Rules are Rules. Just obey the law or deal with the consequences.

Bubba

February 20th, 2011
1:06 pm

Mark:

The vast majority of government employees are Democrats. Focus your blame where it belongs.

Bubba

February 20th, 2011
1:10 pm

Monroe:

Delta is ready when you are!

eric

February 20th, 2011
1:20 pm

why is it that comments are allowed only on these silly articles. However, when violent crime happends in ATL or a serious article that could use public comment is written, the AJC shuts down commenting on articles. Its all pretty sad.

dd

February 20th, 2011
1:20 pm

Where are tha Egyptians when you need them?

CommonSense

February 20th, 2011
1:22 pm

Are you guys crazy? You actually want unregulated food vendors selling you food that may or may not be safe? What happens if a group of high schoolers stop to get lunch and get gravely sick and noone can trace the vendor? What if the food was prepared in a ROACH infested kitchen that has not been inspected? You really want zero regulations here? I barely trust food from traditional restaurants what makes you think I want my kids eating crap from a Rolling Unlicensed Vendor? Thank GOD for common sense! Stop whining, this is a nation of laws. Either abide by them or don’t participate.

Yallsa

February 20th, 2011
1:26 pm

I FEEL FOR THESES CART OWNERS FOR ALL THE TIME AND MONEY INVESTED BUT,THERE ARE HEALTH CODES TO BE MET. AND FROM EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH FULTON COUNTY AND CITY OF ATLANTA . YOU COULD ASK THE COUTY ABOUT BEING A STREET VENDOR AND THEN ASK THE CITY AND YES 2 DIFFERENT ANSWERS . I REALLY WISH THE COUNTY COME BY AND CHECK OUT THAT NASTY FOOD CART IN BUCKHEAD . ACROSS FROM PEACHTREE METHODIST CHURCH ..

anon

February 20th, 2011
1:27 pm

the government will not stop a company with good ratings from employing someone who doesn’t wash their hands. It won’t stop a customer from contaminating a salad bar. It won’t stop a teenage fast food worker from spitting or placing other bodily fluids or chemical agents in food products for kicks or stop them from doing nasty stuff in the kitchen for youtube, it won’t stop a disgruntled employee from enacting revenge before quitting (and probably nothing will). But what they do prevent is a small person from starting up, because the government feels as entitled to their money as the mob does. We don’t need laws to keep us safe; those who sacrifice liberty for security deserves neither.
If this is so concerning then try making your own meals or bag your own lunch. You are your first line of defense. If you get sick trusting an unknown stranger selling mystery meat, then the real villain here is yourself. If you are too lazy to care about yourself then maybe getting sick will motivate you into start caring about the quality of the food you eat, instead of blindly trusting the government that everything is alright and supporting their right to extort.

baby

February 20th, 2011
1:27 pm

Atlanta, Fulton, Dekalb and this state are all complete hellholes with NO hope. If you want your child’s degree to be worth something, or even want them to be educated, don’t even think of sending them near a public school here. It’s clear the people the city and state have produced from the education system, are not forward thinkers.

Fathertime

February 20th, 2011
1:57 pm

I lived in Atlanta for many years and am so sorry for what seems to be a totally broken system there. My last home was in Tucker for 25 years, and it was a vibrant, active community. When I retired, however, the handwriting was already on the wall as the Fulton/Dekalb/Clayton/Douglas counties, and the cities there had already begun to deterioriate. Generally, it appeared a power struggle between the white English speaking people, and the non-white non-English speaking people. This did not portend good future relations, and from our blogs, I seem to have gotten out at the right time.

Again, I regret my hometown has gone to hell, but I’m now simply too old to do anything except offer my sympathy.

count_schemula

February 20th, 2011
2:17 pm

Liberals! Republicans! Seriously? Get off that simple shiz. Both parties are the problem and both will fail you with regularity. We don’t need pie in the sky definitions of what a true Conservative would do or what a Liberal would do, we just need thought leadership that works. If you skip the issue and go right to party bashing, I have NO use for you. Frame the issue as you see and see if people agree, but STAY ON POINT. When you take a complex issue and cheapen it with that Liberal/Conservative oversimplification you are just blowing so much hot air. Aren’t all issues complex or they would not be issues. Argue the issue from how you see it, don’t just blurt out some bumper sticker BS. Ideology is fine, have one if it suits you, but argue the issue from your viewpoint. Don’t use cheap labels that you probably don’t even understand.

Unpainted Huffhines

February 20th, 2011
2:21 pm

So much for the “support small business” and “free market” rhetoric. There are street vendors all over most other major US cities. Restaurateurs do just fine, unless they are too expensive or their service sucks. Socialists!

freedom of speech

February 20th, 2011
2:49 pm

“why is it that comments are allowed only on these silly articles. However, when violent crime happends in ATL or a serious article that could use public comment is written, the AJC shuts down commenting on articles. Its all pretty sad.”
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
You are correct. The people are silenced on the main stream issues. Most of you have no idea how bad things really are inside the City of Atlanta Government and Police. They are all “kin” folk to each other from the top on down, and nothing will ever change. Glad I moved North years ago.

StreetFoodCred

February 20th, 2011
3:46 pm

Simple solution is to get a license.

anon

February 20th, 2011
3:52 pm

The best solution is to abolish government

ChuckH

February 20th, 2011
3:54 pm

The city of Atlanta is full of fat-ass black women who have no accountablity whatsoever in their jobs and are pissed at the world so God Forbid if someone else grabs themselves up by their bootstraps. I hate the city and state governments that are so full of “fluff” by everyone hiring their grandbaby mama’s uncle’s third cousin by jailhouse marriage.

Michael

February 20th, 2011
4:09 pm

I used to drive a roach coach 30 years ago in Maryland. We don need no stinkin’ license.

Jimmyd

February 20th, 2011
4:14 pm

Just as long as they don’t stop Antavious from selling my rock to me on the weekends, it’s all good…

Michael

February 20th, 2011
4:18 pm

Hey, that’s Dontavious’ spot!

CDK

February 20th, 2011
4:19 pm

The problem is not that they chose not to have a license…it’s that they can’t handle the hoops you have to jump through to get one. To have a license, you must also have a commissary that is certified by the health department. That location is effectively a commercial kitchen that is used by you and only you. From there you are only allowed to legally operate your truck from 2 pre-determined and approved locations within a county. That location must meet certain requirements, including having an accessible bathroom within 150 feet. This greatly limits where you can legally set up your truck and makes moving through multiple locations over the course of the week impossible.

No longer can multiple vendors share a kitchen part time. A food truck should be an affordable way to open a small business but under our local laws it is not. In the city of Atlanta it’s probably easier to sell crack and fake Rolex’s on the street than it is to sell food!

count_schemula

February 20th, 2011
4:50 pm

“I’m for truth, no matter who tells it. I’m for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” Malcolm X

count_schemula

February 20th, 2011
4:51 pm

“We need more light about each other. Light creates understanding, understanding creates love, love creates patience, and patience creates unity.” Malcolm X

count_schemula

February 20th, 2011
4:52 pm

I this is largely where “the community” is at today. “We cannot think of being acceptable to others until we have first proven acceptable to ourselves.” Malcom X

count_schemula

February 20th, 2011
4:55 pm

“Despite my firm convictions, I have been always a man who tries to face facts, and to accept the reality of life as new experience and new knowledge unfolds it. I have always kept an open mind, which is necessary to the flexibility that must go hand in hand with every form of intelligent search for truth.” Malcolm X

count_schemula

February 20th, 2011
4:56 pm

The more things change, the more things stay the same. “Right now, in every big city ghetto, tens of thousands of yesterday’s and today’s school dropouts are keeping body and soul together by some form of hustling in the same way I did.” Malcolm X

baldylocks

February 20th, 2011
5:26 pm

makes sense… food carts are an act of terrorism!!!!

it’s probably embarrassing for atlanta city officials. they have no idea on how to effectively manage THEIR business and they wouldn’t want that rubbed in their face via a passionately constructed burrito made by a person struggling to make rent in the worst economy of our time. just can’t squeeze enough blood from the small stones.

but taco bell? well… bring it in!!!!

Rob

February 20th, 2011
5:32 pm

I am so glad I moved out of this town 4 years ago…

Jack

February 20th, 2011
7:25 pm

Not too long ago the city of Atlanta effectively shut down the Varsity junior on Lindbergh. As I understand it, the Varsity folks wanted to rebuild their building they had been operating out of for the past 40 years. Atlanta got into a pissing match with them because Atlanta wanted to restrict their curb cuts from the ones they have now down to 1. Varsity said no way and Atlanta said no go and Varsity said screw you Atlanta and closed the restaurant and boarded it up. Great job Atlanta, another fine job you hapless saps have accomplished there.

count_schemula

February 20th, 2011
10:18 pm

I know vaguely of the Varsity battle, but I can say that that area on Cheshire Bridge is EXCEPTIONALLY screwed up traffic wise. Cars come from all directions all the time. Not that that is the Varsity’s fault because that area’s mess was a long time in the making.

Carol

February 21st, 2011
5:45 am

If you see how they prepare your food and the potential safety hazards that exist from these areas none of you would be complianing;

Sherry

February 21st, 2011
7:29 am

This is ridiculous – why is everything a conspiracy by bad government. They were enforcing a law!! AND YES OTHER CITIES REQUIRE A LICENSE. “You sell food. Note: Food vending requires a license from the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene. Call 311 or visit http://www.nyc.gov/health for information about food cart vendor licenses and permits.” j-taken right off the NYC Dept of Consumer Affairs. Grow up people!!

DLink

February 21st, 2011
10:59 am

PS

Kudos Sherry, and count_schemula – your posts stood out, as well. Thanks for brightening the place up!

c-bear

February 21st, 2011
12:04 pm

The health dept. and rev. dept. need to be aware of who is doing what, not necessarily where. One should only have to register their name and phone # and what they want to sell (a basic business plan) with the agencies and for contact reasons only. The vendor will have an ID/Account # to send taxes on their sales to. People who really enjoy a particular vendors food, repeat customers will attest to the quality of their product and will show in the high amount to taxes paid from that vendor. If you have crappy food prep and poor quality, lack of customers, you have no tax money, you have no business. Simple as that.

Steven

February 21st, 2011
1:27 pm

its what happens when you don’t pay off someone- classic fulton.

3C Atlanta

February 21st, 2011
2:10 pm

I went to a food truck festival in Austin Texas last fall and it was fantastic! http://www.gypsypicnic.com/. It would not hurt the ATL to talk to other cities to undersand how they allow these types of entreprenuers. It makes sense to get people out of the cars and offices.

Less Democates= More Democracy

February 21st, 2011
3:21 pm

Why does the county feel the need to require a permit, whe they already have a business licnese? How many transactions didn’t take place becuase of county action? How much sales tax revenue was lost today due to county action. It looks to me we would all be better off with less county action.

Sarah

February 21st, 2011
3:42 pm

One thing that makes me jealous of cities like New York, L.A., Portland, Boston, etc. is the amount of street vendors and food trucks that their cities have. Atlanta is missing out on a wonderful addition to our food culture. Definitely need to fix it now and fix it quickly.

Dave

February 21st, 2011
4:14 pm

Yet another reason I am glad I moved away from the Atlanta toilet. The street vendor restrictions have nothing to do with food safety; rather they are a result of politics as usual. Remember, small businesses do not have the political donation dollars to spare to put their interests to the forefront. I have never read or seen any stories of a food poisoning epidemic stemming from street vendors.

Personally, I considered starting up a business of this type. I have been unemployed for over a year now, after I was laid off prior to the sale of the company I worked for, basically because I was white and they didn’t want to risk getting sued by letting the blacks go. I have the experience and connections for equipment to start a street vending business, and would therefore be able to provide my own employment, and possibly create a job or two for others in the process. However, due to Atlanta’s asinine restrictions, this will not happen. Good job, Atlanta, you have once again inspired an enterprising, working citizen to leave, and I will surely be replaced by two drains on society.

Deano

February 21st, 2011
4:28 pm

If you’re white, don’t try getting any permits from the city of atlanta for this kind of thing. The white-hating blacks in atlanta city govt will not give you the time of day.

Downtown Heffa

February 21st, 2011
4:59 pm

It’s all about taxation and revenue. Big brother needs to know what’s in your pocket.

c-bear

February 22nd, 2011
9:14 am

There has to be some accountability in any business, especially food. We aren’t talking yard sales y’all! There needs to be some structure to this new foodie trend. Remember we are in Atlanta, the heart of Atlanta, where there are lots of players and hustlers just waitng, licking their chops, to get your money for nothing. It just takes one clown to ruin it for everybody. Remember Buckhead, Light-up Atlanta, Freaknik, Lenox Sq, Atl. Station, Underground Atl…ok… Like the city government so goes the general population. Atlanta….we have raised a brazen and unethical city.

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Seth G

February 22nd, 2011
1:24 pm

Haha! ATL, the wannabe city that goes backwards. They might as well bring back slavery. Pathetic.

Food 4 Thought

February 23rd, 2011
11:31 am

Well, if anything, perhaps the actions last week will spawn the kind of dialogue needed to move the street food efforts in the right direction. It sure has created quite a bit of discussion here. Sometimes it takes a few mis-steps to bring the issues to light. Keep the momentum going!