Georgia’s big secret: State needs illegal workers

WASHINGTON — I’m going to let you in on a big secret, a closely-held and dirty truth about Georgia’s farmers: They depend on immigrants, some of whom are here illegally.

What’s that? You knew that already? Not such a secret?

Well, Georgia’s agri-business leaders are posing and posturing as if it is. They dare not admit that they need the sweat and toil of migrant laborers so much that they are not always fastidious about searching for legal documents.

But the gut-busting pressures of a harsh new Georgia law targeting illegal immigrants — modeled after a controversial law in Arizona — may force farmers to speak the truth out loud. At the very least, it may force them to campaign openly for a broad immigration reform proposal that grants legal status to illegal laborers.

It’s not looking like a good year for many of Georgia’s farmers, who were already struggling with a warming earth. As drought conditions worsen in some portions of the state — upgraded from moderate to severe — searing heat and stingy rainfall are yellowing leaves and stunting crops.

Now, some of those lucky enough to reap bountiful harvests may be forced to leave fruits and vegetables in the fields for want of enough hands to pick the onions and tomatoes, beans and watermelons. Farmers have complained that some of their seasonal workers from Mexico, Guatemala and other points south have failed to show up, frightened away by the new law, which takes effect July 1, and its promise of increased scrutiny of those with Spanish surnames.

Dick Minor, president of the Georgia Fruit and Vegetable

Growers Association, told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution that some migrant workers are skipping Georgia because they fear harassment. “People are just saying, ‘I am not going to Georgia. The law is terrible. We are going to get in trouble there. Let’s just go on.’ They have options. And what they are saying is, ‘Georgia is not the place to go,’ “ he told reporter Jeremy Redmon.

(For what it’s worth, the labor shortage casts doubt on

the old canard that illegal immigrants are taking jobs from hardworking American citizens, a reliable set-piece in arguments from nativist diehards. Even at an average wage of $12.50 or so an hour, native-born Georgians aren’t eager to take the work the fields offer — dirty, joint-maiming, miserably hot and impermanent. Once you’ve picked one crop, you must move to another state for a different harvest.)

Still, Minor and other agri-business leaders continue to insist that they only hire legally — and that the new law has scared away workers with green cards or other legal documents. That may be. It’s certainly easy to imagine that workers who don’t wish to be harassed would avoid a state that has hung out an unwelcome sign.

But it’s also likely that some of those workers don’t have legal documents and fear deportation. Hints of that abound — including a recent history wherein Georgia farmers complained to their Congressional delegation when federal agents raided their fields.

There are also the frequent complaints about the federal program that governs guest workers, a system that allows temporary laborers to enter the country legally. Many Georgia farmers complain it is too bureaucratic and costly to use. So how many of them rely, instead, on workers whose papers are suspect?

Georgia farmers aren’t the likeliest allies of immigration reform activists, but necessity can create strange alliances. The fields need strong backs and willing hands, and there aren’t enough of those around.

279 comments Add your comment

Cynthia the Bigot

June 3rd, 2011
1:36 pm

So Cynthia, you are in support of using ’slave’ labor. Interesting.

Tom(Independent)

June 3rd, 2011
1:37 pm

Just saw the comment about sending prisoners to S Ga to work on the crops. Do you really think they would give up their life of playing basketball, softball etc, lifting weights and watching TV for laboring work? I bet they would RIOT and then sue the State of Georgia for violating their rights. The ACLU would file the suit for them!!!!!!!!!!

KC

June 3rd, 2011
1:40 pm

“I did not see the complaints until President Obama got into office and is now being blamed for all the illegal immigrants being here like he personally walked them across the border.”

No one openly spoke, wrote, or blogged about illegal immigration because the impact was not exposed until the great recsession, when the mere notion of Obama taking office was about to occur.

mike, maybe you were not writing your politicians and demanding change but many of us were. Now that the bills are coming due, sugardaddy (the politicians) are discovering who has hands in the cookie jar the most. Come to find out illeglas TAKE much more than have ever contributed to our economy.

Zedd

June 3rd, 2011
1:41 pm

I have no sympathy for farmers that rely on illegal immigrant labor to harvest their fields. They knowingly broke the law in the name of the almighty dollar and made their bed on a false foundation, now they have to lie in it.

Nomination for blog quote of the day: “Cobb Woman of Color”

“The inmates in Georgia’s prisons should be used on the farms. The money they make can go back to the state to pay for their stint in prison.”

Great idea! It sure beats them sitting around watching cable tv inside with air conditioning all day on our dimes.

Granny Godzilla

June 3rd, 2011
1:42 pm

We should let all illegals stay here in America.

In addition, we should provide them with health care, housing, transportation, educational services and a living wage.

Wha?

June 3rd, 2011
1:43 pm

“No Irish need apply”

This is a often repeated problem in history. People come into the country illegally (you think the Scots-Irish had green cards in the 1800’s?), try to get whatever work they can, and keep their money to their own areas. Meanwhile, established citizens complain that the illegals take jobs without any benefits to themselves, yet the businessmen still hires them for cheap (and mostly defenseless) labor.

If we haven’t solved it in over 100 years, why do people think it’s a new problem that can be solved with new rules. Illegal workers isn’t a problem unique to Georgia, or even the US (how do the French get in their grapes?) It’s a pattern that is pretty well established in society, and won’t be fixed by just trowing a law at it. Don’t have a answer to it (immates won’t do as well in harvesting as the current labor source, and do you really want to eat an onion that a bad-attitude prisioner pulls out of the ground?), but I think that pulling out a labor source this quickly isn’t going to help the local economy. The farmers seem to agree.

Red

June 3rd, 2011
1:44 pm

The prison labor argument is compelling at first glance, certainly. But the average prisoner wage is something like 19 cents an hour paid to an account to be used only in the prison commissary for candy bars and other ‘luxuries’. This is to ensure that an underground economy doesn’t end up thriving under the direction of convicts.

Assuming that agricultural production is time sensitive piece work, how on earth could a farmer rely on convicts to get his crop from the fields in good shape before it rots, when the convicts realize that the department of corrections is collecting at least 60 times the amount that he gets?

Without bullwhips cracking- how indeed?

mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the LIAR Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!

June 3rd, 2011
1:50 pm

As usual you are so WRONG. Illegal means NOT legal, what part of that don’t you understand? Lawbreakers might help you, but I doubt it.

Steve

June 3rd, 2011
1:50 pm

I agree that hispanics have great work ethics. I attribute this partially to the fact that the governments in the countries they originally came from were\are unable to hand out necessities (food, shelter, etc) to them.

American’s also use to be known around the world for their work ethic. As our government found more ways to give necessities to people rather than make them work for it, our overall work ethic declined
That is not to say all Americans who are receiving government assistance have a poor work ethic. But there are certainly many who do.
A strong work ethic is developed by working. I don’t know anyone who developed one while being given handouts.

Fletch

June 3rd, 2011
1:51 pm

For those on here making the claim the these folks “just want to do an honest days work”, I provide the following “real life” exanmple of the poor downtroddedn “undocumented” worker.

Currently, I have 5 Workers Compensation claims that are tied up in litigation in Nevada, California and New Mexico. I’ll only provide the last names:

Mendoza – Injured back while moving a computer monitor 7 months ago. Still receiving WC payments

Zamora – Injured back while flipping mattress 8 months ago. Still recieving WC payments

Padilla – Injured back falling out of chair 8 months ago. Still receiving WC payments.

Carmona – Injured shoulder moving toaster oven 11 months ago. Still receiving WC Payments.

Carranza – injured shoulder throwing trash into the dumpster 12 months ago. Final settlement – $50,000

What do all of these have in common you ask?

1. All fraudulent claims
2. All Hispanic
2. All could not pass E-Verify.

However, the EEOC and the state board of WC in each state has determined, that even though they are here illegaly, they are still afforded the same considerations and protections as a U.S. citizen.

Please spare me the “plight of the undocumented worker” speech. These people know exactly how the system works, and they take FULL advantage of it.

GB

June 3rd, 2011
1:56 pm

I see you managed to shoehorn in the comment about global warming. Until George Bush started destroying life as we know it (just as the villains are now threatening Medicare as we know it), the farmers never had to worry about droughts. Not in 1954; not in 1980.

But to the topic at hand: yes, not many Americans will work that hard for 12.50 per hr. But if immigration is restricted, and if illegal immigration is stopped, then market pressure would bid up the price of labor. At some price I would be willing to pick crops; at some price you would. They would find labor if they paid enough. And yes, we would see the price of food go up, but so what? That is how things are. And we would save the significant costs of providing medical treatment and schooling for illegals (and poorly educated, relatively unproductive LEGAL immigrants too, for that matter).

Independent

June 3rd, 2011
1:56 pm

Hey Fletch – if your five WC employees could not pass e-verify, THEN WHY DID YOU HIRE THEM!!!

becky

June 3rd, 2011
1:58 pm

@Akeya: have you ever heard the saying, “If it was easy everyone would be doing it”? Coming into this country legally is difficult but doable. Coming into this country illegally is not easy but it’s easier than doing it correctly. When something is not a problem in a person’s immediate life/situation then it’s not a problem “to them”. Without illegal workers then there would be no need for the low wages. If a person earns a better living with benefits would that not be better? Another thing would it make you a little uneasy if someone moved into your home without your permission with their child/children because they had no where to go and wanted better. Oh and they told you they needed to help their family that’s on the street so they used your bank account, ate your groceries and didn’t tell you how much they earned and would leave you a couple dollars on the table because they needed to do stuff with the rest. How long would you let them stay?

I have listened to a conversation when working at the Social Service office between two Hispanics and they conversation was one bragging how they would sneak across the border to have their baby on US soil so they had a citizen and could come to the get the benefits. How hard is that? Risky maybe but hard?? They didn’t know I speak Spanish fluently. It makes me sick to hear people talk about something they know nothing about. When you get paid cash there is no real reporting unless you need it as a write off. But if your profit is such that you don’t need full labor write off then it’s not necessary. The IRS following the people that pick up illegals as absurd. I’m always passing them by and when I found out what they were doing I was shocked. As for the people that say Americans wouldn’t lay asphalt…that’s a LIE!!! My husband does it and when the work is slow because the illegals aren’t able to collect unemployment (because they don’t pay into the system) in the off season they find things for them to do to keep paying them. It’s upsetting because the citizens are sent home to collect unemployment while the illegals are earning full wages which comes to more than unemployment…especially in Georgia. Illegal immigrants aren’t just filling jobs in farming but they are filling jobs that Americans will do but because people in this country are buying into that LIE they continue to sell it. If a company has illegals the IRS is not hawking them. If they were the E-Verify system would be better enforced.

I do like the idea of the dead beat dads/moms working on the farm when they refuse to work to pay for their children. They work in the fields and the check is split 40/60 between them and the custodial parents. When they realize what it takes to take care of a child full time they will keep the jobs and pay their child support.

Fletch

June 3rd, 2011
2:04 pm

Independent – “THEN WHY DID YOU HIRE THEM!!!”

We didn’t, they are employees of clients in the various states I mentioned. Once the cliams were submitted, the insurance carrier came back with the information that the SS #’s the employees provided were tied to several other individuals ( in some cases up to 10). When I contacted the WC Boards and the EEOC, I was informed that there was nothing they could do. Once a claim is filed, they receive full protection.

Kamchak

June 3rd, 2011
2:14 pm

A lot of sock-puppets here today.

All saying the same thing.

Just because you post under multiple names, it doesn’t mean that your point is any less stupid.

becky

June 3rd, 2011
2:30 pm

AMEN FLETCH. They understand the system and they work it to their advantage. When their families arrive after them they teach them the system so they all benefit. They use ss cards they bought off the street and we had to learn how to tell a real on from a fake one…not too easy. Run that number and you get three four hits on that one number. So employers are blindly taking the ss card and not verifying it so they get jobs that citizens would do. Of course they have a great work ethic and that’s something but bring that same work ethic with integrity and become legal. Wonder how many of them would do those same jobs if they were legal citizens!!

Kamchak

June 3rd, 2011
2:31 pm

Bait.

Cast.

Strike!

And the guilty dog barks first/loudest.

Kamchak's Upchuck

June 3rd, 2011
2:31 pm

Kamchak is about as useless as a sock puppet — never contributes to the conversation.

A little pissy Kamchak that this blog is mostly anti-illegal folks?

We were doing fine without your stupid pointless additions, sport! :)

Norcross

June 3rd, 2011
2:34 pm

I posted this yesterday on Insider, but here it goes again. My illegal neighbors down the street just got their house FORCLOSED on. Upon further investigation several other homes in my ‘hood were lost to the banks by mostly ILLEGALS. How the heck can an illegal buy a home? How have they been doing this, just like fake employment docs? WTH!!!

This crap is deeper than I ever realized. If you have a lot of illegals in your area, take a look at the public notices on foreclosures and go back into the archives as well. Mamy more than I anticipated were names unlike Joe Smith or Mary Johnson.

This goes alot further than illlegals being hard workers and needing them in the produce filds of south GA!

Fletch

June 3rd, 2011
2:34 pm

becky – “AMEN FLETCH.”

Thanks becky. And for the record, I have a problem with ANYONE gaming a system designed to help people that are truly in need.

Sue from Lima

June 3rd, 2011
2:36 pm

“And the guilty dog barks first/loudest”

All the dogs start barking when butt ugly hits the room!

Kamchak

June 3rd, 2011
2:42 pm

All the dogs start Only one dog starts barking leg humping when butt ugly Kamchak hits the room!

fixed your typos

SaveOurRepublic

June 3rd, 2011
2:48 pm

- Will Jones, you are very wise indeed sir. To understand the Globalist Elite (Rothschilds, Rockefellers, etc.), is to understand those who puppeteer the pawns on “Cr@pitol sHill”.

- Granny Godzilla @ 13:42 EDT (6/3/11), surely you jest. I’ll assume you’re being facetious (hopefully).

bill

June 3rd, 2011
2:49 pm

why in heaven’s name would someone work in the hot sun for a living when they are provided 99 weeks of unemployment, food stamps, housing assistance, unlimited welfare, free medical care..I mean come on Cynthia you gotta be kiddin’…..

Kamchak

June 3rd, 2011
2:56 pm

Tell you what, Granny: let’s send them all to YOUR house…

Granny Godzilla and I are the most name-jacked posters here at CT’s, so I’ll tell you what, sport — let’s find out if that’s the real Granny Godzilla talking first, before any of you say anything else that’s so stupid, OK?

Red

June 3rd, 2011
2:56 pm

Methinks Granny has been sock puppet hijacked Pablo. Can the moderator confirm this?

Pablo

June 3rd, 2011
2:56 pm

From Granny Godzilla:

10:58 a.m.: “We must take money away from the people that have earned it and give it to the people that need it. It should not matter if you have squander (sic) your opportunities as an American”
1:42 p.m.: “We should let all illegals stay here in America. In addition, we should provide them with health care, housing, transportation, educational services and a living wage.”

Tell you what, Granny: let’s send them all to YOUR house, where YOU can use your money to house, feed, clothe and maintain the lifestyle you want for the ILLEGALS and all the losers you seem to care so much about. Deal?

Matthew

June 3rd, 2011
2:59 pm

I’m a student of history, and guess what?

That was the same argument that was used to justify slavery as well.

Independent

June 3rd, 2011
3:02 pm

Fletch at 2:04 PM – All the more reason to have a strong MANDATORY Federal E-verify system in place that employers must use to screen out the illegals. If there aren’t any jobs, they will not come. But the e-verify system has been around for a while, if your clients didn’t use it to verify the immigration status, then they got what they deserved. They also probably got some good workers, too, among the illegals. I worked at a company that (probably) hired illegals. We knew we had a couple when they got deported. We did what was required by law: we filled out the I-9 form, looked at their (fake) ID forms, and filed it in our file cabinet. The government never asked about these forms. When we had a couple of openings, it usually worked out that one local and one immigrant got hired. After about two weeks the local would leave, saying “the work is too hard and too dirty”. Of course that was back in better times. The immigrant would keep on working. And ALL of our workers made the same amount, it was based on their job category. We withheld all the proper taxes (SS and Medicare and what fed and state tax was correct according to their W-4 form). We treated them just like they were legal, becasue they had to be in our minds, or we would be subject to prosecution. That was the “wink and a nod” system that has been going on for nearly thirty years. Amnesty? Hell, we have been giving amnesty to illegals for thirty years, so why now are we all up in arms about it? There are good middle-of-the-road, workable solutions, but the Dems and the Repubs in Washington can’t agree about whether the sun is shining at noon, so nothing will get done. Lots of political posturing, though.

Sock Puppet

June 3rd, 2011
3:04 pm

There’s no telling where Kamchak’s hand(s) have been, even his keyboard doesn’t want him to touch it. Garbage in, vomit out, sport!

tar and feathers party

June 3rd, 2011
3:24 pm

No, Georgia farmers need workers. Where oh where could they get them from? Oh, I know, the 9.1% of workers who are unemployed! Make em work rather than collect a free pay check from Uncle Stupid and his double ugly little bothers. Did you know the American states are in worse financial shape than the failing country called Greece? We cannot afford to pay unemployment benefits any longer, make the unemployed git down to South Georgia and start picking those crops. Dead beat scum anyway!

a reader

June 3rd, 2011
3:26 pm

prison laborers. great idea. have to have plenty of guards so there ain’t no failure to communicate tho.
glad to see the new Deal bill is working so quickly.

bev

June 3rd, 2011
3:28 pm

MONTY – You must be the simpleton. You don’t have a valid argument. Must be horrible to be so full of hatred! I’m so happy that I don’t have to live my life filled with such toxins!!

c tuck daffy duck

June 3rd, 2011
3:28 pm

“gut-busting pressures of a harsh new Georgia law targeting”

Not your usual routine game of ultimate hyperbole, eh C?

How about “Nazi-busting-the-Jews pressures”? …an “ultra-extreme right-wing insidious” law that puts “illegals in the crosshairs of self-satisfied bloated fat conservatives.”?

Come on Cynthia! Obama’s down in the polls, the economy, employment, the real estate market, the stock market and Democrat outlooks are all tanking severely. You NEED to start fomenting the hate. Do your part. Justify it all by saying we started it. Your nitwit readers will agree, I’m sure.

Do it for your man, HIM, before whom every liberal knee shall bend.

hardworkpaysoff

June 3rd, 2011
3:31 pm

so… who worked the farms before illegals? kids? sounds like something GA could use, might help with our childhood obesity epidemic. instead of playing video games all summer, maybe the lazy, spoiled kids out there should go out and see what a real day’s worth of work is on the farm. seems like kids these days have it way too easy and are given way too many frivolous items (iphone, ipad, brand new cars) without having to even lift a finger for them.

Pablo

June 3rd, 2011
3:34 pm

Kamchack:

If it is not Granny, fine and dandy. My post applies to whoever made them.

Kamchak

June 3rd, 2011
3:35 pm

And the sock-puppets just keep a comin’.

DannyX

June 3rd, 2011
3:52 pm

For those unemployed conservative Republican Tea Partiers going down to south Georgia to work in the fields bring some sun screen, its 100 degrees today, and the next 4 months.

Now I know you don’t believe in global warming. Just pretend its 75 degrees, that should help.

Atlantan

June 3rd, 2011
4:00 pm

That is like saying the plantation owners needed slaves – nothing like low wage labor. I’m frankly shocked this column is coming from you.

I’m all for a green-card / work visa program for this low-wage labor. However, when they start using government services and not contributing to the tax base or assimilating is when overwhelming illegal immigrants become a problem. I’m all for a path to citizenship for the 12-20 million here, but a requirement to learn English and a GED at the very least should be part of it. American Citizenship is a privilege and not a right.

TruthBe

June 3rd, 2011
4:11 pm

Poor lttle liberal idiots. The immigrants can legally get right to work visas, so that way they can legally earn wages for their families. And yes pay their fair share of taxes, like the rest of us. So stop the BS. Illegals should go home. And if they want to work in America than do it legally. Go thru the proper paper work and immigate legally. Welcome new “legal Immigrants”. As for climate change DannyX you need to do some real research and stop drinking the obamajuice my friend. Kamchak and Granny there’s no hope for you guys because you refuse to let go of the blackchip on your shoulder.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

June 3rd, 2011
4:12 pm

Cynthia, that’s interesting, you support taking advantage of a minority group by paying them pathetic wages and making them work horrible hours because you know they won’t complain……

Hmmmm, seems like that is something you would oppose??

Akeya

June 3rd, 2011
4:13 pm

Debbie- yes, I’ve heard of the Constitution. Are you going to offer a REALISTIC solution to the problem while at the same time looking at the fact that there are many more Americans with constitutional rights that are screwing up the economy much more than illegals?

Becky- Yes, I’ve heard it. The problem is that as Americans, we are afforded the opportunity to visit and/or work in almost ANY country without problems obtaining visas, work permits, erc. solely because we are from the United States. We have not suffered the plight of not finding work here and having to go elsewhere to find work. How can one NOT admire people that would travel THOUSANDS of miles away from their own families, culture, language, lifestyles to come here and be denigrated? Illegals are not living like the rich and the famous.

I worked in social services and I think it’s completely unfair that the children of illegals receive benefits. I am not saying that people should be able to just come as they please. I AM saying that for the ones who have been here for years working and have not cause trouble, be given an opportunity to stay here. Hell, I think many would be willing to pay a fine for staying in the country. Imagine how much money could be recouped from charging illegal immigrants a minimum of 100 per month to stay here and work. HELLO?! Billions of dollars in income for the U.S.

As for finding Americans who will do the job, I truly believe that there are Americans who would be willing to do the jobs that illegals are doing. But I also believe that as Americans our expectations are different (dare I say higher?) than those of illegals. The lifestyles are different. Illegals can work for less money because their lifestyles are different. They generally don’t pay 400-500 per month for daycare because there is a fellow countryman who will do it for less. They generally will be more accepting of sharing housing, therefore paying less in living expenses. Americans are raised to believe that we should grow up and have our own houses with just our husbands and children and MAYBE grandparents living with us-no one else.
Illegals will pile a lot of people into a car to get from one place to another. Many Americans will be friends, all going to the same place, but take 2-3 different cars. THE STANDARDS ARE DIFFERENT.

If you have lived in a country where you make 5.00 a DAY, you will be raised to expect and need different things from someone who was born and raised in a country where you can make 5.00 an HOUR.

Further, I can’t believe the level of immaturity from the posters here. Really, is there no way to have a decent, mature and productive conversation about how to alleviate this problem?

WOODSTOCK MIKE

June 3rd, 2011
4:17 pm

@Akeya

I don’t think anyone has something against people that are trying to provide for their families. Unfortunately this is much more complicated than that. I see you have made a few good points, however, don’t see any real solution. If you are illegal you are illegal, and I don’t follow what you are saying about Americans being treated differently in other countries, we have to go through the exact same process as anyone to work and live in other countries??

Kamchak

June 3rd, 2011
4:22 pm

Kamchak and Granny there’s no hope for you guys because you refuse to let go of the blackchip on your shoulder.

Awwwww diddums, I haven’t given you any reason for hope?

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Akeya

June 3rd, 2011
4:28 pm

Mike,
It is extremely complicated, but I also think that people think it’s as simple as deporting millions of people. That would be devastating to the economy and our society.
I could only brainstorm the couple of examples I provided.
Americans have to follow the same rules and apply, but it is much easier for us to be approved for visas and such.

BlahBlahBlah

June 3rd, 2011
4:31 pm

Raise the hourly wage. The workers will come. Market forces at work.

Tom

June 3rd, 2011
4:34 pm

Cynthia, with respect, in 1855, the headline would have been “Georgia Farmers Need Slaves.”

Harry Callahan

June 3rd, 2011
4:36 pm

Maybe some of the 10% unemployed should pick ruit instead of soaking up those unemployment beenfits for 122 weeks.

Kamchak

June 3rd, 2011
4:49 pm

What’s a ruit?

nasonlead

June 3rd, 2011
4:55 pm

Im sorry but most of you people do not know what you are talking about. I am a south Georgia onion grower and I participate in the H2A guest worker program. In order to do so I must build adequate housing that is inspected upon completion. I must then contract with a broker for legal workers. The validity of these workers is confirmed by the federal Government at the Mexican border before they ever enter the country and I must pay for the validation. I must then provide adequate transportation (chartered a/c bus with a restroom) from the border to my farm and back to the border when the harvest season is completed. i must guarantee a minimum wage of 9.50 but the rate is based upon production and if a worker is only making that then he isnt working very hard for me and is slowing my harvest down. I must then advertise this job with living quarters and the wage in the local paper and i have to hire any and all who apply. This year three people did and I have not seen them since but since they applied that was three less mexican workers that i could hire. i am aslo required to provide weekly transportation to the closest area shoppin center (wal mart) even doing all this I have not been able to hire enough workers this year because they do not want to come to Georgia anymore.