Georgia’s big secret: State needs illegal workers

WASHINGTON — I’m going to let you in on a big secret, a closely-held and dirty truth about Georgia’s farmers: They depend on immigrants, some of whom are here illegally.

What’s that? You knew that already? Not such a secret?

Well, Georgia’s agri-business leaders are posing and posturing as if it is. They dare not admit that they need the sweat and toil of migrant laborers so much that they are not always fastidious about searching for legal documents.

But the gut-busting pressures of a harsh new Georgia law targeting illegal immigrants — modeled after a controversial law in Arizona — may force farmers to speak the truth out loud. At the very least, it may force them to campaign openly for a broad immigration reform proposal that grants legal status to illegal laborers.

It’s not looking like a good year for many of Georgia’s farmers, who were already struggling with a warming earth. As drought conditions worsen in some portions of the state — upgraded from moderate to severe — searing heat and stingy rainfall are yellowing leaves and stunting crops.

Now, some of those lucky enough to reap bountiful harvests may be forced to leave fruits and vegetables in the fields for want of enough hands to pick the onions and tomatoes, beans and watermelons. Farmers have complained that some of their seasonal workers from Mexico, Guatemala and other points south have failed to show up, frightened away by the new law, which takes effect July 1, and its promise of increased scrutiny of those with Spanish surnames.

Dick Minor, president of the Georgia Fruit and Vegetable

Growers Association, told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution that some migrant workers are skipping Georgia because they fear harassment. “People are just saying, ‘I am not going to Georgia. The law is terrible. We are going to get in trouble there. Let’s just go on.’ They have options. And what they are saying is, ‘Georgia is not the place to go,’ “ he told reporter Jeremy Redmon.

(For what it’s worth, the labor shortage casts doubt on

the old canard that illegal immigrants are taking jobs from hardworking American citizens, a reliable set-piece in arguments from nativist diehards. Even at an average wage of $12.50 or so an hour, native-born Georgians aren’t eager to take the work the fields offer — dirty, joint-maiming, miserably hot and impermanent. Once you’ve picked one crop, you must move to another state for a different harvest.)

Still, Minor and other agri-business leaders continue to insist that they only hire legally — and that the new law has scared away workers with green cards or other legal documents. That may be. It’s certainly easy to imagine that workers who don’t wish to be harassed would avoid a state that has hung out an unwelcome sign.

But it’s also likely that some of those workers don’t have legal documents and fear deportation. Hints of that abound — including a recent history wherein Georgia farmers complained to their Congressional delegation when federal agents raided their fields.

There are also the frequent complaints about the federal program that governs guest workers, a system that allows temporary laborers to enter the country legally. Many Georgia farmers complain it is too bureaucratic and costly to use. So how many of them rely, instead, on workers whose papers are suspect?

Georgia farmers aren’t the likeliest allies of immigration reform activists, but necessity can create strange alliances. The fields need strong backs and willing hands, and there aren’t enough of those around.

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Will Jones - Atlanta Jeffersonian Exegesis

June 3rd, 2011
12:10 pm

Let’s try it without the url, perhaps you will post it.

Actually Georgia doesn’t need illegal Hispanic Roman Catholics to fulfill, as the pawns they are, the Roman Catholic Church’s published stratagem for taking back America from “the Anglos” they teach “stole it” from the ancestors of their Hispanic illegal immigrant faithful: “The National Pastoral Plan for Hispanic Ministry,” Publication / Office of Publishing and Promotion Services, United States Catholic Conference, No. 199-7. Pick up your own copy of Rome’s marching orders on Amazon.com, the Library of Congress or your local RC diocesan library.

Ms. Tucker is CFR, the Rockefellers’ “bi-partisan” false-elite “clearinghouse” for dissemination of what the faction which built Big Oil on unredressed murder and arson, financed Hitler from the U.S. RC collection plates through Rockefeller-front and Knight of Malta Prescott Bush, killed Kennedy and King to restore their unconstitutional “Fed” money franchise JFK’s EO11,110 had killed and to send us to die in VN on behalf of a papal fiefdom whose leader said, on a London radio station, Hitler was his “hero,” fighting a whig Jeffersonian who loved America, Ho Chi Minh.

Rockefellers promulgate through their CFR’s membership what Rome wants or Rome gives the largest cash-flow in history to someone other than Rockefellers’ family bank, which since Rockefeller-front GWBush committed 9/11, is now the Iraqi State Bank.

Cynthia Sucker

June 3rd, 2011
12:11 pm

Latino (US Citizen) You make some good points and yes there are lazy Americans but in a democracy (at least that is what we aspire) you must have law and without laws we have nothing. There is no middle ground. You are either on the side of law or against it. I agree that most of these workers are honest, hard working people. So, why not come into the country legally?

Red

June 3rd, 2011
12:11 pm

I find it ironic that someone on the Left advocates an illegal labor force. These workers fall below the wage standards and do not have protections afforded a legal labor force. They can be exploited beyond labor laws that protect the legal worker. They can be paid far less thus exploiting the legal labor pool as well. Cheap labor is the equivalent of modern slavery. Cynthia speaks like a true capitalist rather than her typical leftwing banter. I guess protection of the working class is out the door and exploitation of the working class is chic now?

Ellis Island, New York

June 3rd, 2011
12:11 pm

Georgia needs legal workers a little bit more than illegal workers.

Anne Mitchell

June 3rd, 2011
12:11 pm

The Welfarians and food stampers (the demographics with the highest rates of obesity) can pick a few fields-or is the idea of (GASP!) actually working for your food/housing/medical care/free cell phone totally outside the Democratic mind-set?

Isaiah

June 3rd, 2011
12:12 pm

Now don’t y’all go hurting Cynthia’s poor little feelings with your dissatisfaction of her blog. She will delete your post. Man, that’s two times in two days. What a big baby! You sure can dish it out, but can’t take it!
What do you expect when you blog the crap that you do. You’re just asking for it!

Ray

June 3rd, 2011
12:12 pm

Eliminate food stamps, unemployment checks, and all other forms of welfare and you will have plenty of people wanting these farm jobs. Before this country became a welfare state, nobody complained about immigrants.

DebbieDoRight

June 3rd, 2011
12:12 pm

Gator Joe: Cynthia,
I refuse to sympathize with agri-business, especially big agri-business when they are solid Republican supporters. Collectively and individually, they deserve the consequences of their votes and actions

Amen!!

CWOC: The inmates in Georgia’s prisons should be used on the farms. The money they make can go back to the state to pay for their stint in prison.

Are you insane? You’d see a bunch of innocent people being railroaded into prisons left and right just so that the farmers can make their quotas!! Think it wouldn’t happen? Read excerpt below:

As scandals from Wall Street to Washington roil the public trust, the justice system in Luzerne County, in the heart of Pennsylvania’s struggling coal country, has also fallen prey to corruption. The county has been rocked by a kickback scandal involving two elected judges who essentially jailed kids for cash.

HRPufnstuf

June 3rd, 2011
12:13 pm

Georgia needs illegal workers like Georgia needs Cynthia Tucker.

Workinforalivin

June 3rd, 2011
12:13 pm

Hey Latino…I’ve picked up illegal workers gathered on the side of the road in Cumming to help me lay some sod and paid them $9 or $10 an hour. That’s 100% in their pockets which beats a minimum wage fast food job where taxes are then withheld on them. Is that what you call “exploiting them and paying just enough for them to survive? WTF..seems like a pretty good gig for them.

Maybe there should be similar designated places where Americans (US citizens) can gather to get the same work?

Akeya

June 3rd, 2011
12:14 pm

First of all, illegal immigrants can’t vote.
Second, I do not aspire to pick fruit and vegetables for low wages.
Third, do we REALLY want a large amount of prisoners outside of the prisons? That would make me a bit uneasy.
Fourth, the majority of welfare money goes to CITIZENS! Many of whom are able-bodied AMERICANS.
Fifth, if you really want to worry about Americans losing jobs think OUTSOURCING.
Sixth, in order to become legal here, it is very difficult. Most people who have been working here are sending a small amount of money back to their countries. It’s not so simple to just “do it the right way” for those who are desperate to make money to take care of themselves and their families.

Why not strip lazy, criminal AMERICANS of their socials and legal status and reward them to hard-working illegals? Not the ones sitting in jail on drug or other very serious charges, but the ones who work as hard as many Americans do.

The fact of the matter is that people have built lives here. They have made connections here. They have helped to build. The money they spend matters. The difference in culture and ethnicity adds to, not subtracts from, our American society. Why not find a way for them to stay?

Give them a tempered legal status to work, but tag on a fine to be paid for staying in the country (maybe monthly? taken directly from paychecks?)
Make the children of illegal immigrants ineligible for welfare programs. No, it’s not the nicest thing to do, but give a little, get a little.

Yes, illegal immigrants are here for a reason. The majority really seem to just want a shot at something halfway decent. Is that not admirable at all?

Robby

June 3rd, 2011
12:14 pm

Say it aint so.

June 3rd, 2011
12:14 pm

Sorry it wanted to post to early

Illegals working farms at 12.00 per hour
Illegals having children educated in ga schools costing oh say 10K per year
Illegals using our hospitals as doctors offices, FACT cost millions per year
Illegals using our social programs such as food stamps, also millions per year
And those same illegals pay not one penny of taxes.

Seems to me that this is kinda upside down with the farmers and their millions of government money from the taxpayer and the illegals with their free ride of millions from the taxpayer is working against this country Cynthia. Its not that we are against immigration but illegals are not immigrants. Immigrants pay their own way and pay taxes. Illegals take and take and take and demand rights which they have none. Thats what we are tired of and its way past time that the taxpayer is given the break and not the illegals. When its all said and done, a lot of these illegals live a lot better then some of our american citizens. America first Cynthia, Americans first.

Let the generational welfare families work the fields for their monthly checks and benefits. Before to long we wont have the welfare family either because they will get educated and take care of their own.

Thogwummpy

June 3rd, 2011
12:15 pm

As Cynthia tends to advocate the selective application of the law—ignoring it if it suits her world concept—-I think the rest of us should apply that same standard. What would be a suggestion in that respect? Well, I don’t like the idea that I work my rear off to give a free living to the lazy creeps that vote Democrats into office….and neither does millions of productive Americans. So, if Cynthia argues to set aside immigration law….I think millions of hard working Americans should set aside TAX LAW, and stop paying. Then, all her nefarious socialist programs will collapse; and we can get on with the civil unrest that is coming anyway.

Isaiah

June 3rd, 2011
12:15 pm

Deport Cynthis Tucker!

Former AJC subscriber

June 3rd, 2011
12:16 pm

Cynthia, I have cancelled my AJC subscription because of you. Your articles are proof that we are headed towards an idiocracy. I predict a BOYCOTT CYNTHIA TUCKER.

Wisdom, Justice, Moderation

June 3rd, 2011
12:17 pm

The farms of Georgia should be able to operate by employing Georgians.

Maybe the farms need to lower their profits by not using inexpensive illegal laborers.

Stella

June 3rd, 2011
12:17 pm

It is refreshing to see that the majority of posters are becoming more and more aware of the high price we pay for having illegal aliens in our state and our country. With cheap labor comes a bigger burden on our entitlement system(s). I hope our country is learning alot from this past recsession and the aftermath that continues. Our immigration policy needs a major overhaul to prevent this from ever happening again. The US cannot continue to take (through the back door) the World’s tired, hungry and poor at the clip of the past decade.

PS – Illegal workers woun’t be needed much in GA right now due the drought. I doubt the law is having an impact as much as mother nature is.

Browncoat

June 3rd, 2011
12:17 pm

I thought unemployment was at 10%. Deport all illegal workers and put the unemployed back to work!

Recalculating

June 3rd, 2011
12:18 pm

AJC’s Big Secret: Needs new editorial columnist.

Sage

June 3rd, 2011
12:25 pm

….. hard-working illegals …..

I am really starting to detest that phrase. If you knew you were illegal (breaking immigration laws) wouldn’t you work your butt off and keep your mouth shut for any low wage, knowing there are other taxpayer funds you can sponge off of? Why buy the cow when you are getting the milk for free?

Independent

June 3rd, 2011
12:27 pm

Since when is $12.50 an hour “slave wages”. My daughter makes less than that at Kroger. But now that Georgia has this illegal immigrant law, I think they need to use it. Anyone using a fake ID or green card should be sentenced to the maximum stint in a Georgia prison and we should pay to keep them there. If farmers can’t get illegals to pick their Vidalia onions at $12.50 an hour, then they should raise their wages to whatever it takes to get the job done, and Georgians should pay the extra price at the grocery store or ecide that it is too costly and the farmers should go out of business. For some agribusinesses, it might be cheaper to relocate south of the border so they can legally use Mexican labor, then export back to the US. Once the law and e-verify kicks in, then the State need to have a compliance audit of all carpet mills in Dalton and all poultry mills in Gainesville. WHAT PART OF ILLEGAL DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND!!!

Typical Democrat

June 3rd, 2011
12:29 pm

This is all George Bush’s fault.

straitroad

June 3rd, 2011
12:29 pm

Your blog post shows a very high level of ignorance. Speaking from personal experience, if there is a labor shortage, it is caused by government welfare checks that you support. Any farmer who tells you that he can’t make a living without illegal labor is lying through his teeth. Farming is hard work. If you’re willing to put in 80 hours a week, you can be successful. If you want to work a 40 hour work week in farming, then you will go bankrupt. Cut off the government dole and see how many people are willing to harvest crops. I promise you they will do it before they starve. Cynthia, you shouldn’t opine on a topic unless you know something about it.

dk

June 3rd, 2011
12:30 pm

If 10 mil of us stop paying income taxes, would be granted the same imunity that illegals have, would the gov push to bring us forward from the shadows, would CT be writing articles about the need of keeping us Undocumented Income Tax Avoiders from jail? After all, we would have built a life, we would have roots, we would be a part of the workforce, we would be paying the local taxes to our communities…

We have done amnesty before, and it has done nothing to stop the problem of people breaking out laws.

What CT should write about, is not that farmers need illegals, but farmers have jobs available, so lets get those jobs filled and watch our unemployment rate drop. Before anyway says the pay is too low, here is the second solution:

How many state prisoners are sitting around doing nothing? We taxpayers pay for their food, housing, clothing, etc, why not have the farmers pay the low wage to the state for every worker, the prisoner gets their usually salary and fthe rest of the armer money could go to help pay prisoner costs.

Simple solution.

I'm a Cynthia suck up

June 3rd, 2011
12:32 pm

I love you Cynthia; however, you are even starting to lose me with your rants and total lack of logic.

Independent

June 3rd, 2011
12:36 pm

I have argued against the people who believe that illegals avoid paying taxes until I am blue in the face. For the umpteenth time, if the IRS can’t look at employer’s submitted W-2a and match them with an employees filed (or some of you claim, not filed) tax return and see if they match. A computer can do that. If they claim 15 dependents, the IRS should check the SS numbers of those dependents just like they supposedly check your or my dependents. If these illegals are not paying income tax, it is because of our own lax enforcement, just like our lack of an e-verify law (at the Federal level) allows businesses to escape punishment for hiring illegals.

Jimmy62

June 3rd, 2011
12:36 pm

So farmers can’t find illegals to dot he work. Guess they will have to comply with the law and pay at least minimum wage. I hear there are a lot of low income unemployed US CITIZENS out there looking for jobs. The lie is that there are jobs Americans won’t do. The truth is that there are jobs Americans won’t do at the pay being offered. Farmers will have to adjust the same way that businesses adjust when some politicians decide to raise taxes. But now they won’t be breaking the law.

Red

June 3rd, 2011
12:36 pm

Completely off topic (maybe)
I rarely address the columnists directly when I play here in the pits, but two things:

1) Love seeing you on the Sunday morning talk shows from D.C. Ms. Tucker. I wish you were a regular.
2) I will subscribe to AJC home delivery 7 days a week as soon as it’s printed on hemp fiber grown right here in Georgia.

joe suggs

June 3rd, 2011
12:38 pm

To ramzad, let the hispanics pay for their own kids to be born ! Also for their own education .As a U.S taxpayer i am tired of it !

Crazykkk

June 3rd, 2011
12:41 pm

Most of stupid commentators here are stupid damn kkk (klan). They are racist, hatefull, anti blacks and anti immigrants. Watch them oug.

smk

June 3rd, 2011
12:43 pm

The reason there was no problem finding labor in the 1800s is because there were no immigration laws – America was a beacon of freedom for people all over the world. Now, we’re a private country club, and good luck getting membership. I have a very good friend who was here on a legal visa, running a small business, paying taxes, etc. Her visa expired, and where is she now? “Detained.” They’re considering deporting her rather than doing everything they can to make her a citizen. Her husband and children are still here (legally) while she is basically in jail. She’s not from Mexico, by the way, but it really doesn’t matter. There are people who are productive members of society, and people that are not. We have lost our direction as a country that was founded on freedom for all people because we decided in the early 1900s that it was time to do something about all these foreigners coming to America. Fix immigration laws.

Independent

June 3rd, 2011
12:43 pm

And for you folks that believe most illegals work by getting picked up at the local lumber store and paid under the table as “contractors”, can that happen? Certainly. But there are strict IRS rules about what is a contractor and what is an employee. An IRS agent could watch and see what construction company picks up the illegals, follow and see how they work and then see if the company correctly assigned him as an employee. If not, off to jail with the contractor. And that can happen if the people standing on the corner are illegal Mexicans or if they are Americans. My favorite story is about the good American fishermen last year that wanted BP to reimburse them for the pay they lost from the oil spill. Unfortunately, they coulodn’t accout for the wages they made the year before, having apparently been paid “under the table”.

Crazykkk

June 3rd, 2011
12:45 pm

Most of stupid commentators here are stupid damn kkk (klan). They are racist, hatefull, anti blacks and anti immigrants. Watch them out.

Pkom

June 3rd, 2011
1:01 pm

I read that in the Netherlands 2% of the population works in agriculture and they produce more
food than they need. It seems like the U.S. is the only country that has a problem finding
people to work in agriculture and has to have a continuous stream of illegal aliens to
keep the economy running. We need to copy other countries that don’t have the illegal
immigration problem.

Fed up

June 3rd, 2011
1:06 pm

Why do the farmers start crying about the illegals in this state? There are enough LEGALS coming into the state that are given jobs in the Atlanta area. If Legals are bus driven to Perry, Ga to work in a chicken farm, why can’t they live and work in an agriculture farming area? I mean, after all, we are paying for everything including Medicaid.

Dido

June 3rd, 2011
1:10 pm

Ga workers do not need illegals, they need to pay a decent wage. Agriculture worked years ago because of slavery, then sharecropping, then bad economies, not illegal workers. If you pay a decent wage legal workers will do it. Cynthia Tucker is trying to justify breaking the law, just like a liberal and Democrat. There is a process to immigrate to this country, there are legal guest workers in South GA may I say you forget, just like in other agriculture states.

I need half a million dollars, so do I get to take out a illegal loan to justify my needs. Why are illegal Mexican different than Asians, Europeans, Haitians, Cubans and other South American countries?

One Eye Jack

June 3rd, 2011
1:13 pm

Back in WWII, since many workers were off fighting the war, America used Axis POWs to harvest crops. Both the farmers and the POWs loved it.

OK, so we already have illegals in jail, they are called convicts.Set some reasonable criteria so the non-violent ones get to harvest crops, and their wages are used to pay their jail cost, reimburse their victims, and if anythign is left, saved for them when they get outta jail.

We must break the Dem and Rep circle of ‘no action’ on illegal immigrants. It is un-American to reward illegal behavior. Unless, of course, you want to encourage even more illegal behavior. We tried that with the 1986 amnesty, please don’t repeat that mistake again, learn something, OK?

Enforce the law. If it becomes OK for all of us to ignore one law, then I will quit paying taxes.

DebbieDoRight

June 3rd, 2011
1:13 pm

Akeya: Why not strip lazy, criminal AMERICANS of their socials and legal status and reward them to hard-working illegals?

Because of a little thing called the Constitution. Perhaps you’ve heard of it……… :roll:

Tom(Independent)

June 3rd, 2011
1:16 pm

Every liberal is trying to find someway to justify that we need ILLEGALS for this and that. Ok. the fact is, perhaps liberals and not us conservatives, need to be taxed more heavily to support the ILLEGALS they seem to love! I still believe, pay citizens a decent wage and they will work just about any job in these times. Saw a protester in front of the Capitol yesterday, wearing a shirt with the word on it saying I’m UNDOCUMENTED. Just daring someone to get him. Too bad he could not be snatched up and sent back to Mexico, where he would be LEGAL and DOCUMENTED! Those types really piss me off!

yuzeyurbrane

June 3rd, 2011
1:21 pm

smk, good historical insight into immigration laws. However, I disagree on 1 point. I think historians have concluded that most immigrants came here because they heard “the streets are paved with gold” rather than our being a beacon of freedom. For example, the Great Irish Potato Famine. Nice national myth though.

dixiedemons

June 3rd, 2011
1:24 pm

If you can pay a mailman $ 25 plus an hour to put a piece of paper in a box…… You can pay a field hand $ 25 plus to put a watermelon on back on a truck. ready willing & able

Hootinanny Yum Yum

June 3rd, 2011
1:27 pm

Jobs? Economy?

stand up and fight

June 3rd, 2011
1:28 pm

@ Thogwummpy 12:15

This is the mindset of our country, and why we are are facing the problems we are. The US is falling behind the rest of the World – we are loosing credibility, respect, financial power, etc..

It has to start with where we started screwing up, turning a blind eye of our immigration policies. All the people that have come to our country have contributed to the boom and the bust. We must now re-build, but we have to do it smart. Illegal immigration has created a hostile environment and a fight over the entitlements – if illegas can get XYZ, then why can’t I? … and the downslide continues.

Illegals have not been used, they have benefited greatly from the US taxpayers and our systems of freebies. Illeglas have gained so much that they can return to their countries at a better advatage that those that stayed. Illeglas can go home and rebuild their countries, what true valiant statesmen do!

Our country has got to be more selective in who we let in. Lets not forget 9/11, our lax immigration and visitor policies brought about that disasterous event. Think of this a Spring cleaning in America, we have to get our house in order or else it is going to foreclosed on and/or condemed!

Let ALL OF our POLITICIANS know we are going to force them to make the decisions WE THE PEOPLE want! Overhaul immigration now with strict polcies that don’t entice law breakers!

Annie Jo

June 3rd, 2011
1:28 pm

Georgia Farmers do not need illegal immigrants in the fields. They need LEGAL WORKERS. It is like any crime. Just like illegal drugs. You get ADDICTED. Georgia Farmers and other corrupt rich corporations have had their ILLEGAL DRUG, whoops ILLEGAL ALIENS, so long, they are having withdrawal pains. Now, is the time, to restore the rule of law, by getting people to do work, LEGALLY. They can do that, by being creative to attract LEGAL WORKERS. I have seen construction on highways and businesses being done at night. Shift as many of the work in fields to night work, or early morning, so that NO ONE is forced to work like a slave in the burning all day sun. Yes, you will need bright lights and will have to spend some money to incorporate new ways of doing things, to attract and keep a LEGAL WORKFORCE. It can be done. The problem is, rich corporate elites and the Agricultural business have not had to be creative, because they have always been able to depend on the MILLIONS of INVADING ILLEGALS. It is time for us as a SOVEREIGN PEOPLE, of a SOVEREIGN NATION, to demand the RICH CORPORATE GREEDY ELITE and the ILLEGAL ALIENS, do what we have to do. Learn to survive, within the perimeters of the RULE OF LAW. Not Complicated.

Liberal Chicks are UGLY

June 3rd, 2011
1:29 pm

Illegal labor is slave labor…

Mama Says

June 3rd, 2011
1:32 pm

Hey Cynthia a drug addict NEEDS crack is that a reson to make it legal or is it a reason to understand the problem the addict has and fix it ?

Your logic can be used to support ANY illegal act.

SPEEDING cause I am in a hurry

STEALING cause I need it

When does the logic stop ?

kevinbgoode

June 3rd, 2011
1:33 pm

So is there some reason why the state legislators can’t spend half-a-day working in the fields? It’s not like they are actually working in the state assembly to make life better for Georgians – they might as well give something back by doing a little physical work themselves.

Club Member

June 3rd, 2011
1:35 pm

“Now, we’re a private country club, and good luck getting membership.”

The US should be an expensive, private club that you have to pay dearly to join but it is not! We are like the public pools right now that are being vandalized and those that don’t want to pay can just sneak in and jump over the fence.

As a member of the US country club of taxpayers, I demand illegals go home!

Illeglas have proven they have the guts to come here uninvited and find creative ways to stay hear for years, then they can go back to their native country and fight for change for themselves and their people. If they wish to come back, we are an invitation only high priced facility!

mike

June 3rd, 2011
1:35 pm

I don’t see what the problem is. These folks in Georgia voted these goobers into office and this is what they get. I did not see the complaints until President Obama got into office and is now being blamed for all the illegal immigrants being here like he personally walked them across the border. When times get hard there is a certain segment of the US population who always blames others for their problems. And you know who you are.