Voting Rights Act: I was wrong about racial gerrymandering

WASHINGTON — I won’t procrastinate. I’ll get the most difficult part of this column over right now: I was wrong. I was shortsighted, naïve and narrow-minded to endorse the concept of drawing Congressional districts to take racial demographics into account.

In 1982, the Voting Rights Act,  with its emphasis on Southern states, was amended to encourage the creation of awkwardly named “majority-minority” districts in order to give black voters the strength of a bloc. I believed that drawing such districts was a progressive political tactic, a benign form of affirmative action that would usher more black members into a Congress that had admitted only a handful.

The tactic worked. In 1980, there were only 18 blacks in the U.S. House of Representatives. Now, there are 44, many of them elected from districts drawn to meet the mandates of the Voting Rights Act.

Unfortunately — like so many measures designed to provide redress for historic wrongs — those racially gerrymandered districts also come with a significant downside: They discourage moderation. Politicians seeking office in majority-black or –brown districts found that they could indulge in crude racial gamesmanship and left-wing histrionics.

While black-packed districts yielded some quite respectable pols — including U.S. Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.) and U.S. Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.), the third-highest ranking Democrat in the House — they also launched the Congressional careers of clownish legislators such as former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, last heard cozying up to the savage dictator Moammar Gadhafi.

Hemming most black voters into a few districts also had a deleterious effect on surrounding areas, now “bleached” of voters whose interests tend toward equality of opportunity. Their absence encourages pols in districts left overwhelmingly white to use the “Southern strategy” of playing to the resentments of white voters still uncomfortable with decades of social change.

As Richard Harpootlian (cq), chairman of the South Carolina Democratic party, told me: “When the only issue is race, idiots win, black and white.”

An attorney, Harpootlian has noticed the skillful, if cynical, way that Southern Republicans have turned black-packed districts to their advantage. Since the 1990s, GOP strategists have encouraged the creation of districts with huge black majorities — even though they can be counted on to elect a Democrat (usually a black one).

What do Republicans get out of the deal? With most black voters pushed into one or two districts, they have rid surrounding districts of voters who might shun a politician who claims allegiance to the Rebel flag or who insists that President Barack Obama is a foreigner. In other words, they make neighboring districts safe for ultra-conservative Republicans.

With huge gains in last fall’s elections, Republicans now control most state legislatures, providing them a distinct advantage in the re-districting battles that have followed last year’s census. And they’re using that advantage to continue packing black voters into a handful of districts.

Take Georgia, where jockeying has begun in advance of a state General Assembly session to re-draw boundaries for seats in Congress and the state legislature. Some observers expect that U.S. Rep. Sanford Bishop (D-Ga.) — a black Congressman serving a constituency that’s half white — will end up with a heavily black base after black voters are redrawn out of the district won last year by U.S. Rep. Austin Scott (R-Ga.). That way, Scott can concentrate on solidifying his support among overwhelmingly white tea partiers.

“In political terms, it’s re-segregating the South,” Harpootlian said. “Without those majority-minority districts in the South, Republicans would not have come to the dominance they have come to.”

If black voters think they have made substantial gains simply by having more black representatives in Congress, they’re wrong. They’d have more influence if they were spread through several legislative districts, forcing more candidates to court them.

The political landscape has been transformed since the Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965 and amended 17 years later. The election of a black president shows that American voters are willing to look beyond a candidate’s skin color. It’s time to give up racial gerrymandering, which turned out not to be quite so benign.

186 comments Add your comment

Jimmy62

June 1st, 2011
8:20 am

The unintended consequence, the invisibility of the choice not made, the opportunity cost of policies made without thought to long term consequences…. These are the reasons why I am a libertarian and scoff at most social engineering policies. Most social engineering policies will have far worse consequences than just leaving things be. Think about how well “Every American should be a homeowner” worked out!

For a more extreme example, think about China’s one child policy. Yes, it slowed population growth, but now they have an overabundance of single adult men and it’s causing havoc on the countryside and the demographics will lead to even worse problems in the future.

Zzz

June 1st, 2011
8:31 am

Like my Grandma always said, “You made your,bed now lay in it ” !

HRPufnstuf

June 1st, 2011
8:32 am

Cynthia Tucker admitting she was wrong. The world has stopped spinning.

Rickster

June 1st, 2011
8:32 am

It’s good to be able to admit when you’re wrong Cynthia. We’re proud of you. Now… keep going! You’ve been wrong about a LOT!

Aquagirl

June 1st, 2011
8:33 am

“I was wrong”…Ah, the words of an adult. You could have simply said your previous column was “not intended as a factual statement.” Perfectly acceptable in some circles.

Greg

June 1st, 2011
8:33 am

It’s big of you to admit you were wrong. I have always believed that stacking the deck was wrong for many reasons. Now, we have congressmen who are not accountable to anyone because they’re gauranteed seats for life, both black and white. The same is true when a city becomes majority anything, politicians become unaccountable.

Bill

June 1st, 2011
8:35 am

Cynthia – seeing how over 94% of black voters voted for Obama, I think your statement …

” The election of a black president shows that American voters are willing to look beyond a candidate’s skin color. ”

… is only partially true. Black voters clearly voted on racial lines. White voters were the ones that were willing to look beyond a candidates skin color. An amazing statistic when coupled with your normal and endless racial rants about whites.

jconservative

June 1st, 2011
8:37 am

No one is ever able to see the future. We only see the present and the past. And, in to many cases, we tend to ignore the past even though is is sitting there in front of our faces. So we only think about the present. We can learn a lot from history but we refuse to do so. So we repeat the same mistakes over and over.

People elect who they want to elect. People also do not work real hard at making a voting decision. They base the decision on the latest, cutest 10 second sound bite. It is quick, easy and takes little effort.

We will continue to do what we do.

Across the nation gerrymandering season is now open. Happy hunting.

jt

June 1st, 2011
8:37 am

Now CT should examine the terrible consequences of the last fifty years of the welfare state and government involvement in our medical system.
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She will find it much worse than mere Political gerrymandering.
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Government solutions are always worse than the initial problem that the government caused in the first place.

markie mark

June 1st, 2011
8:38 am

It all goes back to the concept of a “melting pot” and being proud of just the title “American”. No hyphens, no ethnic attachments from generations ago. However, I no longer believe anyone wants to be in the melting pot anymore. The Law of Unintended Consequences has ruled out society for longer than anyone wants to believe. Maybe this is an example of “taking our country back” that both sides will agree with. And guys, Newt was right and should have stood his ground. I dont want right-wing social engineering anymore than I want left-wing social engineering.

joe

June 1st, 2011
8:38 am

“The election of a black president shows that American voters are willing to look beyond a candidate’s skin color.”

Yes, I believe 100% in this…so, it is absolutely time to stop playing the race card every time a person says BHO is not a good president. That opinion has nothing to do with the color of his skin…it has everything to do with his quazi-socialist agenda that is not a good fit for our country.

To further illustrate my point, I would love to see Herman Cain on the next GOP ticket either as the Pres nominee, or the VP running mate.

So, all you left leaning people need to stop playing the race card on these blogs…it is so yesterday, it’s starting to smell.

Tea Partier

June 1st, 2011
8:39 am

You got dat rite!

markie mark

June 1st, 2011
8:39 am

that should be “our society”..

Logic 05

June 1st, 2011
8:40 am

“While black-packed districts yielded some quite respectable pols — including U.S. Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.) and U.S. Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.), the third-highest ranking Democrat in the House..”

What world are you living in????????//

kayaker 71

June 1st, 2011
8:43 am

CT,

And then there’s Alan West, a black Congressman from FL’s 22nd district that won that predominantly white district by a 54% majority in the last election….. the first black person to win that district since 1876. I am not so sure that it is the color of the candidate in Republican circles that determines the winner as much as in districts like those of John Lewis, Maxine Waters and Charlie Rangel where race plays a much more important factor. Herman Cain is also a case in point. There is very little black loyalty to this man because he is a Republican. J.C. Watts won in Oklahoma some years ago by being elected by predominantly white voters. Most journalists ie, Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, Shelby Steele, and others are shunned by the black community because of being conservative but read widely by conservative voters all over the US, both black and white. To gain black loyalty and support, a black candidate must be a Democrat…. it makes little difference what district he belongs to. Good case in point…. Hank Johnson and McKinney. Two of the most inept people in Congress yet loyal to the core by their constituents. Marian Berry, Cold Cash Jefferson…. the list goes on.

Lenny

June 1st, 2011
8:44 am

Thank you Ms. Tucker for a very thought provoking piece. I’ve hated the gerrymandering but never thought of it from this perspective. You’re right on this I think.

Stephen

June 1st, 2011
8:46 am

As a south Georgia, conservative man, I am usually on the opposite side of the fence and miles away from Ms. Tucker’s political stances. However in this case, I feel she’s right on target. Even though gerrymandering is an ingrained part of our political system, it is wrong. Redistricting needs to be a non-partisan event so that the lines are drawn fairly all across the political spectrum. I believe congressmen such as Sanford Bishop and John Lewis would continue to serve without skewed distict line based on their past service to their constituents. Freshmen congressmen such as Austin Scott should continue to forge his constituency based on the fair distribution of numbers, not an influx of likeminded voters gerrymandered in. (however the 8th District needs to be redrawn just based in its sheer absurdity of size and shape-Colquitt and Newton Coounties in the same district???? Come on!!!) Great observations today Ms. Tucker!

carlosgvv

June 1st, 2011
8:55 am

Jimmy 62

Well said.

Mark Armentrout

June 1st, 2011
8:56 am

Gerrymander districts are a blight on society. People need to be represented by someone who represents their common interests which includes their economic and social interests–not just their political preference. Do away with gerrymandering and make a district adher as close as possible to the current county or city boundaries. Then a politician has to appeal to a wider base.

Last Man Laying Down

June 1st, 2011
8:57 am

What’s the bigger problem; gerrymandering districts or the horrible, third world-like environment in inner cities? Ms. Tucker needs to apologize for her belief that liberal social programs, including affirmative acion, were good things. Certainly these racialists programs resulted in terrible consequences for generations of African-Americans.

John Daly

June 1st, 2011
8:57 am

Good editorial. And you’re right, both sides use it to their advantage and our detriment.

Rusty

June 1st, 2011
8:59 am

Cynthia – you’re an idiot.

Olderandwiser49

June 1st, 2011
9:00 am

Cynthia, when I read the first line of your column, I choked on my coffee! CT admits she was wrong? Has the world stopped spinning on its axis?
Whew! Looks like we can rest easy. I just read the rest of your story, and realized all is right with the world. It took you a little while to draw that racist card, but you finally got to it, and played it for all it was worth. The only wrong you have ever done is call yourself a journalist. “Propagandist” seems a better fit. And speaking of Cynthia McKinney, isn’t she looking for a speechwriter?

Concerned

June 1st, 2011
9:01 am

WOW….”Unfortunately — like so many measures designed to provide redress for historic wrongs — those racially gerrymandered districts also come with a significant downside: They discourage moderation. Politicians seeking office in majority-black or –brown districts found that they could indulge in crude racial gamesmanship and left-wing histrionics.”

OK Whats the catch??

Peadawg

June 1st, 2011
9:01 am

“I was wrong. I was shortsighted, naïve and narrow-minded” – Um…DUH! We’ve been telling you that for years. Glad to know you’re finally realizing it. Better late than never I guess…..

dan the nerd

June 1st, 2011
9:01 am

Well said!

And to the idiot that pointed out that 94% of blacks voted for Obama: Did you get that statistic from the Dept of Made Up Numbers or did you just pull it out of ye own arse? 94% of blacks didn’t even vote.

Use the numbers correctly or don’t use them at all.

Chris

June 1st, 2011
9:02 am

Funny how your support of gerymandered districts was so strong when it furthered your causes. Once there’s a threat that your gov manipulations won’t go your way 100% of the time…Now you want to scrap it. I suppsoe if Obama maintains his Presidency and the Dems take back control, you will again be “for” it.

saywhat?

June 1st, 2011
9:04 am

Bill got it *almost* right. The fact that 94% black voters voted for Obama hardly means they are all racist, given the fact that 84% voted for Clinton, 88% voted for Kerry, and 90% voted for Gore. Given how Bush was the worst president ever,and McCain promised more of the same, it instead shows how unracist black voters were that they even gave McCain 6% of their vote.

Mark

June 1st, 2011
9:04 am

It appears that Ms Tucker is only admitting she is wrong now because her current interests are better served by taking a different position on the issue…. Although I do agree with her that the previous system of racial gerrymandering was indeed wrong and only served to create more divisions between blacks and whites. Now that we have seen a day when America will elect a black president, I hope to one day soon see a day when a majority black voting district will in turn elect a white candidate.

Derwood

June 1st, 2011
9:05 am

only difference between McKinney and John Lewis is (1) sex and (2) spelling of last night. Lewis is a leech just as is McKinney.

homeslice

June 1st, 2011
9:06 am

Aquagirl,

I love you.

Mary Elizabeth

June 1st, 2011
9:09 am

“That way, Scott can concentrate on solidifying his support among overwhelmingly white tea partiers.”
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Rep. Austin Scott may be in for a rude awakening when the “white tea partiers,” who are his south Georgia base, vote the Democratic ticket in 2012 because they realize that voting the Republican ticket will ensure the dismantling of Medicare, as we know it (and even, perhaps Social Security, as we know it.)

DebbieDoRight

June 1st, 2011
9:09 am

Cynthia:With huge gains in last fall’s elections, Republicans now control most state legislatures, providing them a distinct advantage in the re-districting battles that have followed last year’s census. And they’re using that advantage to continue packing black voters into a handful of districts.

Why anyone couldn’t see this as the inevitable conclusion of a problem is beyond me.

bill: … is only partially true. Black voters clearly voted on racial lines. White voters were the ones that were willing to look beyond a candidates skin color

bill, quick question, do you know ALL the black voters in america and asked them PERSONALLY how they voted? If every black voter voted for Obama because he was black, as you suggested, then what happened with all of your black republicans? Did they NOT see the “Obama is Kenyan” memo?

kayaker: Herman Cain is also a case in point. There is very little black loyalty to this man because he is a Republican. J

but then that negates bill’s theory that black people will vote ONLY for other blacks!!!! Oh my!! What will bill do now? You’ve ruined it for everybody!!!!

Obozonomics

June 1st, 2011
9:10 am

Can someone please tell me why the politicians waste time and money”re-drawing” voting lines? We have county lines use them….

Atlanta 1

June 1st, 2011
9:11 am

Interesting take. Before the Republicans dominated Southern States – Democrats did. And they did the exact same thing; changing districts to make it almost impossible for Republicans to win.

Does race come into play with some of the decisions being made. In some cases, I’m sure it does. But it is less these days about race Ms. McKinney and more about party lines. African Americans are going to vote Democrat; so the Republicans are better positioned to win states.

This is nothing knew. Which ever party dominates the state, controls how the voting lines are drawn up. This happens in ‘blue states’ as well.

So while I’m confident that there is some truth in the writer’s thoughts; I do not believe that Republicans wake up every day thinking of how they can restrict ‘black representation’. But they do plan how their party can benefit from the lines being drawn. Just like in blue states, they look to ‘weight’ districts to restrict Republicans..

One other thought. I travel all over this country and to some degree, aground the world. The South (which can always improve on race relations) is no worst than any other part of this country. Will not bore you with the countless examples that I have personally encountered (from both whites and blacks) in my travels – but believe me, we have come leaps and bounds, where others have hardly moved.

alan

June 1st, 2011
9:13 am

You got what you asked for ms. Tucker.
Now live with it!

Paddy O

June 1st, 2011
9:14 am

revisionist knee jerk liberalism. However, the premise is what is erroneous: Black will only get good representation if they are represented by a fellow black. However, that tells the majority white guy he will also only get good representation from a fellow white guy. Also, I would say 75% of white foks are not racist and don’t give a rats butt about the skin color of the guy elected to Congress. What % of black voter is racist?

Richard

June 1st, 2011
9:14 am

I think the worst aspect of the racial gerrymandering was the fact that it destroyed any real effort by blacks and whites in the South to work together to solve problems and to find candidates who were truly “unprejudiced” in their views. There was no need for that in these new districts and a great tragedy for the South.

DebbieDoRight

June 1st, 2011
9:16 am

LMLD: Certainly these racialists programs resulted in terrible consequences for generations of African-Americans.

racialists? huh?

Mark: I hope to one day soon see a day when a majority black voting district will in turn elect a white candidate.

Ever hear of Clinton? How about Kerry? Do those names ring a bell……… :roll:

Paddy O

June 1st, 2011
9:16 am

GA is not very racist. Black & white kids play with each other. Some people are repulsed by others behavior – that is not racist, does not matter the color of the other guy’s skin – but, as MLK stated, it is the content of the other person’s character. Sadly, many Americans have thrown out their convictions to make $$$.

Eubieful O'Sheet

June 1st, 2011
9:16 am

We need those black members of Congress in Washington for comic relief.

Think about Cynthia McKinney, Maxine Waters, William “Cold Cash” Jefferson, Hank Johnson, Major Major, Alcee Hastings, etc. The list is near endless.

The abysmal ignorance, preening arrogance, and incomparable incompetence routinely displayed can’t help but bring a smile or chuckle.

Strange that Cynthia is suddenly against gerrymandering districts now that Republicans are in charge. She sure didn’t have a problem with it ten years ago when the Democrats did it.

In fact, they did it with such blatant prejudice and arrogance that judges had to redraw the districts.
Which gave us a Republican majority legislature. (Democrats “hoisted on their own petard”.)

You DEE-manded it. You got it. Now live with it. Voluntary irrelevance.

Obozonomics

June 1st, 2011
9:17 am

DebbieDoRight, you should change your name to DoWrong, because you just IGNORE facts, typical liberal, don’t let the FACTS get in the way of your logic. Oh sorry I did not mean to suggest that liberals even know what logic is…

DebbieDoRight

June 1st, 2011
9:17 am

What % of black voter is racist?

that would be 0%.

PS: Please, pleae, PLEASEEEEE look up the meaning of the word “racists” before posting such drivel again. It may help your posts……….

Kenny D

June 1st, 2011
9:18 am

You say thay you were wrong, but your logic is wrong as well…
Since you always want to break issues down to RACE and using your logic that blacks only vote for blacks and whites only for whites; then the fact is that blacks are a minority which would be out voted in most geographical based districts.
Unlike you I look to the values that each candidate supports and vote for the one that best matches my own regardless of their skin color.
You need to look within yourself and determine if you really are a racist, in the meantime we will pray for you to see the light, not the skin tone

Aquagirl

June 1st, 2011
9:18 am

homeslice, I love you too. Will you marry me?*

*not intended as a factual statement

Paddy O

June 1st, 2011
9:19 am

also, prior to the removal by Gov Barnes of the confederate battle flags (done to appease his fellow black democrats), the GOP at least in GA had little to not power. Once Barnes pissed all over the really yellow dog democrats, they decided: FU. Democrats will not come back to power in GA as currently contrived. You might if you created the Dixie Democrats, but the Republs would have to really screw up to give that opposition party legs to walk on.

A Lumpkin Resident

June 1st, 2011
9:19 am

Almost any affirmative action starts with the best of intentions and (briefly) does good. Sooner or later, though, political operatives and motives rather than good intentions, and we see all the negative unintended consequences. What was a “helping hand up”, is now a oppressive ceiling that prevents further advancement in race relationships.

Larry

June 1st, 2011
9:20 am

Progress is not about 94% of all blacks electing another black, as it took many more white total voters than black to elect Obama; indeed, progress is the day that at least 50% of all blacks elect the best possibile candidate even if he or she is………….white!

jms

June 1st, 2011
9:21 am

“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race”

Chief Justice Roberts

Common Sense

June 1st, 2011
9:23 am

Like every good liberal, CT only recognizes that changing the rules to pick the winners and losers in a system only “appears” to work, and that for a very short time.

Looking forward to her change of heart on housing bail outs, extended long term unemployment and other programs of mass destruction once she also realizes how these programs have caused more harm than they have helped.

Lawrence

June 1st, 2011
9:23 am

CT…You can’t have it both ways as I am sure you want to. The “black” districts are what you wanted and what you got. Now you want both.

c tuck daffy duck

June 1st, 2011
9:25 am

Cynthia
You were wrong. You are a democrat. Georgia had been controlled entirely by democrats since reconstruction. Democrats wrote the civil rights era laws that gives the US justice dept veto power over Georgia’s redistricting. Democrat president may now exercise discretion in that role.
You’re blaming Republicans?!
What’s wrong with you. You were wrong at the beginning in your column and you’re still wrong at the conclusion.

DebbieDoRight

June 1st, 2011
9:25 am

DebbieDoRight, you should change your name to DoWrong, because you just IGNORE facts, typical liberal, don’t let the FACTS get in the way of your logic. Oh sorry I did not mean to suggest that liberals even know what logic is.

not intended to be a factual statement…….

Intown

June 1st, 2011
9:28 am

the perhaps unintended consequences of the voting rights act were long ago documented by Merle Black in the Political Science dept at Emory and his twin brother Earle. It ushered out the ability of white moderates/Dems to ever win in the South and ushered in the ability of only more conservative white pols and any black pol to win. What is unique about this column however, is that a leading black voice, Cynthia Tucker, is utilizing these facts to argue for the tearing down of district lines based upon minority racial characteristics. Wonder if it will catch on.

Get It Right

June 1st, 2011
9:31 am

CT was for racially drawn districts before she was against it. What changed her mind was not that choosing a representative based on race is wrong, the issue for CT is that the Republicans have found a way to use it to their advantage. So, CT resorts to the profiling and name calling that the “progressive” left uses when they have no argument based in fact. “Southern Strategy”. Rebel Flag, Tea Party, Obama is a foreigner, ultra-Conservative, etc. No facts and no logic, just scary phrases and accusations. We should vote for the person, not for the party and certainly not for the skin color. Personally, holding someone up as the first black anything sounds like an insult to the African-American community. Makes it sound like before “this” happened, no black had the ability to be whatever “this” is. The ability and opportunity is there, every day.

Pablo

June 1st, 2011
9:33 am

Cynthia:

You were doing very well in your column until the sixth paragraph. You should have stopped when you were ahead.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

June 1st, 2011
9:35 am

Good morning all. My compliments to Ms. Tucker, for your new insight (albeit an insight long understood by conservatives such as Tom Sowell.) Will you now support repeal of the Voting Rights Act?

Not Blind

June 1st, 2011
9:37 am

CT, so you are saying that black people can only be properly represented by electing black politicians ? That’s obviously the way most black voters feel.

Joe

June 1st, 2011
9:38 am

The real underlying problem is that blacks don’t see beyond race. They vote specifically for the candidate who’s black or has a “d” by their name. They have been indoctrinated into thinking that dems will help them while all Republicans are evil…That should be the issue you concentrate on but of course being the racer you are it won’t be talked about in any of your tripe….

Jan

June 1st, 2011
9:39 am

kayaker 71 is exactly right. And CT is only against this one form of social engineering because it appears “the other side” has taken advantage of it better than “her side”. Quote: Hemming most black voters into a few districts also had a deleterious effect on surrounding areas, now “bleached” of voters whose interests tend toward equality of opportunity. Unquote. So…. only the black voters interests tend toward equality of opportunity? A wolf in sheep’s clothing is CT. Again blaming white Republicans for her problems.

HDB

June 1st, 2011
9:42 am

Get It Right
June 1st, 2011
9:31 am
“Personally, holding someone up as the first black anything sounds like an insult to the African-American community. Makes it sound like before “this” happened, no black had the ability to be whatever “this” is. The ability and opportunity is there, every day.”

The ability was ALWAYS there in the black community; only from 1964 – present and via legislation has the OPPORTUNITY been granted. For many, however, the opportunity continues to be marginalized in favor of those for whom opportunity is more frequent.

Being the “first” only means that that person was granted the opportunity…and succeeded! Look at it as being the hammer that broke the glass ceiling!!

dumb as a rock

June 1st, 2011
9:44 am

It must be a real PIA to wake up, look in the mirror and realize you are in idiot.
“Mirror, mirror, on the wall, who is the stupidest of them all?”
“Why, of course, it is you, Cynthia.”

Not Blind

June 1st, 2011
9:45 am

Get It Right. Great post ! How many articles have been written railing against somebody for flip flopping ? Now here is one of those writers doing the flip flop.

Good Grief

June 1st, 2011
9:45 am

CT, thanks for admitting that you were wrong, although I see that you did have to get in a nice shot against Republicans with your line about allegiance to the rebel flag and Obama being a foreigner. I’m no Republican, but to quote the cliche, many of my friends are republicans. None of them swear allegiance to the Confederate flag and none of them think Obama is not a US Citizen. And these are part of the “ultra-conservative” crowd you called out.

That said, I’m on-board with abolishing gerrymandering, but I think it should be across the board. Districts should be drawn to be as contiguous as possible, and as compact as possible. I’m shudder every time I see the “Jaws of Life” 4th congressional district in Illinois.

Jan

June 1st, 2011
9:45 am

Get It Right also got it right. Again, CT: a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

BlahBlahBlah

June 1st, 2011
9:48 am

Well-intended government programs, rules and regulations often have horrible unintended consequences. Good luck fixing any of them.

John

June 1st, 2011
9:48 am

CT – You initially had me until you stooped to your old and tired attack on the GOP. Why are liberals such as yourself so hateful? I thought libs were open minded, fair, genteel and above mud-slinging?

Here’s my take. I’m a southerner who grew up in a integrated society and attended public schools. There’s not a racist bone in my body, yet even me at times becomes frustrated if not resentful at the unfairness of AA and over the antics of people like Al Sharpton and Jessee Jackson whose M.O. is to separate and play to stereotypes.When does it all end? We’ve been at this now for nearly 50 years. How can you look me in the eye and demand everyone be colorblind when the first thing out of your mouth is all about race?

HDB

June 1st, 2011
9:49 am

Not Blind
June 1st, 2011
9:37 am
Joe
June 1st, 2011
9:38 am

Lest you forget that prior to 1964, black representation in governmental affairs was extremely limited….although black people dealt with TAXATION!! In order to have the black voice heard, black people elected one of their own (logical, isn’t it!). Now, the paradigm has shifted…but the political spectrum hasn’t! When the Dixiecrats left the Democratic Party and migrated to the GOP, they took a racist tint to conservatism that still permeates today! For many black people. that tint is still evident! THAT’S why the preponderance of black people vote Democratic! What needs to shift is the racist element of conservatism…and only Republicans can adequately address that!!

Uncle Jed

June 1st, 2011
9:50 am

Most racists are non-caucasian, period.

Sam

June 1st, 2011
9:51 am

Wow, for the first time, I agree with 100% of Ms. Tucker’s article.

DebbieDoRight

June 1st, 2011
9:51 am

The real underlying problem is that blacks don’t see beyond race. They vote specifically for the candidate who’s black or has a “d” by their name.

Not intended to be a factual statement……….

DebbieDoRight

June 1st, 2011
9:53 am

yet even me at times becomes frustrated if not resentful at the unfairness of AA and over the antics of people like Al Sharpton and Jessee Jackson whose M.O

Do you also feel that way about Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck et al?

Dj

June 1st, 2011
9:54 am

Hahahaha. Your complaint about your own liberal policies.

avenger

June 1st, 2011
9:55 am

Kayaker. “There is very little black loyalty to this man because he is a Republican.” Duh! For a guy who suppose to be astute of politics, you don’t seem to know the basic rule of voters. All voters (black,white, green, purple, or what ever) support the politician that says what they want to hear.

Contractor

June 1st, 2011
10:00 am

HDB,

Go spread your nonsense elsewhere. Each and every time you post it has to deal with some sort of racist nonsense. You claim people are still reminiscent on the past and blacks still hold hard feelings and vote on those feelings, well that’s making you and them uninformed voters, just voting on color and not issues. You claim you want to get passed color, but it is impossible when you and others continue to hold hard feelings on the PAST and continue to raise a new generation with the hate and hard feelings towards the whites and others. So once again, save your tired racism and blacks being held down speech for your own living room, cause we are all quiet frankly sick and tired of hearing it every single time you post.

avenger

June 1st, 2011
10:00 am

uncle. It is obvious that you are ignorant of the saying -”to keep everyone from knowing that you are an ignoramus, it wise to keep your pie hole shut”

Powder Springs Playa

June 1st, 2011
10:04 am

Here is an excerpt from a article on how minorities voted in 2008. 95% of Blacks did vote for Obama.

According to the exit polls in last year’s presidential election, the candidate preference of non-white voters was distinctly different from that of white voters. Nearly all (95%) black voters cast their ballot for Democrat Barack Obama. Among Latino voters, 67% voted for Obama while 31% voted for Republican John McCain. Among Asian voters, 62% supported Obama and 35% voted for McCain. In contrast, white voters supported McCain (55%) over Obama (43%).

HDB

June 1st, 2011
10:05 am

kayaker 71
June 1st, 2011
8:43 am
“Herman Cain is also a case in point. There is very little black loyalty to this man because he is a Republican. J.C. Watts won in Oklahoma some years ago by being elected by predominantly white voters. Most journalists ie, Thomas Sowell, Larry Elder, Shelby Steele, and others are shunned by the black community because of being conservative but read widely by conservative voters all over the US, both black and white. ”

The reason why there is no “loyalty” in the black community to Herman Cain is explainable:

1) He isn’t KNOWN
2) Cain tends to marginalize the same programs that allowed him to progress….thereby being seen as a hypocrite
3) Cain tends to speak in GOP talking points rather than attempting to be honest….for many, it’s quite evident!!

“To gain black loyalty and support, a black candidate must be a Democrat….”

Have you not noted the lack black representation in the GOP?? Why doesn’t the GOP come into the inner cities and campaign? Why hasn’t the GOP denounced the racist elements it has in the party? Why hasn’t the GOP listened to people like Colin Powell…rather than to call him a RINO?? The GOP needs to appear to RECOGNIZE that black people are CONSTITUENTS…and WELCOME them into the party, rather than to marginalize……THAT’S the first step!!

Obozonomics

June 1st, 2011
10:05 am

HDB, why are you such a racist, and why do you hate Martin Luther King, he was a registered REPUBLICAN..

a reader

June 1st, 2011
10:08 am

pardon my bluntness – but duh…
anyway – lesson learned?

matt

June 1st, 2011
10:11 am

Cyn -

You just now coming around to the fact that putting blacks in political homelands is not in their best interest ???

Wow, you’re really a deep thinker.

There have been countless conservative pundits that have pointed this out for the last 30 years, but you’re just now seeing this ???

Unfortunately, it isn’t gonna change, Cyn. Any attempt to fix the problem would be met with Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton threatening revolution. You know that Cyn, but you didn’t put it in your article …

HDB

June 1st, 2011
10:11 am

Contractor
June 1st, 2011
10:00 am
Obozonomics
June 1st, 2011
10:05 am

Apologize if the truth hurts…but that’s just the way it is!! Racist…far from it….but lest you forget, it was a DEMOCRAT (JFK/RFK) that freed MLK from the Birmingham Jail; it was a DEMOCRAT what got the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Acts passed (LBJ)…..

I vote on issues…just as you do….and on those issues, the GOP does not serve in my best interest; they are antithetical….

killerj

June 1st, 2011
10:13 am

“You Go Girl”! As-s usual open mouth and insert foot,pathetic journalism.Go Tea Party,excuse my white racist self.

chg

June 1st, 2011
10:14 am

Tucker admits she was wrong because the unintended consequences of social engineering aren’t turning out the way she wanted. If they were, she would not be making such an admission.

[...] Cynthia Tucker wakes up and realizes the federal requirement that we protect majority-minority political districts is actually bad for African-Americans. Racial gerrymanding allows Republicans to ignore them and facilitates the election of people like Cynthia McKinney, Tucker says. If black voters think they have made substantial gains simply by having more black representatives in Congress, they’re wrong. They’d have more influence if they were spread through several legislative districts, forcing more candidates to court them. [...]

Sue

June 1st, 2011
10:16 am

It’s OK Cynthia. We Progressives are wrong on most everything but were too emotionally wrapped up in ourselves to do anything about it, except abandon reason and logic. We know that gerrymandering and affirmative action are actually reverse racism and contrary to voluntary association but our nose-in-the-air attitudes blind us to that reality.

What we need to do is what our great Progressive presidents, Wilson, FDR, LBJ, Lincoln, Bush, and Obama would do. Get us into more wars and take people’s property i.e. their earnings. That’s the mark of a great president, don’t you think?

cosby

June 1st, 2011
10:17 am

Ahh…had to slam the Tea Party…I guess if you believe in limited government, elimination of so called entitlement programs, the illegal 16th amendment you are just a plain racist biggot….as for the race issue…I think the SC Rep said it all and while CT promotes John Lewis, all he does is promote “Government will take care of you” putting all on the Government plantation with no self respect, self being or anything.

mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the LIAR Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!

June 1st, 2011
10:20 am

Why don’t you just admit it. You are WRONG on almost everyting. How’s that change working for you. Gas was at $1.81 when NObama took office.

Herman Cain is the MAN!

zeke

June 1st, 2011
10:20 am

Yes and the Supreme Court has ruled several times that it is not Constitutional to draw a district to insure a minority is elected, BUT, it is Constitutional to draw districts to insure a certain political party is elected!!!!! The voting rights act is unconstitutional because IT ONLY APPLIES TO 14 OR 15 STATES AND NOT TO ALL! UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

HDB

June 1st, 2011
10:20 am

Sue
June 1st, 2011
10:16 am

“What we need to do is what our great Progressive presidents…”
You left out Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) who advocated universal health care and the National Park System……

Wrong

June 1st, 2011
10:20 am

And our nation continues to crumble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

aps

June 1st, 2011
10:21 am

Clyburn seems to me to be quite racist. Lewis, while I think a decent person, has not done anything in Congress in all his years that I can remember.

Wrong

June 1st, 2011
10:22 am

Theodore Roosevelt also advocated rounding up illegals and sending them back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

a reader

June 1st, 2011
10:22 am

but at least you have digested another example of why/how our two party system …erm… works.

homeslice

June 1st, 2011
10:26 am

The Democratic party supports civil rights for all. They fight for the oppressed against the oppressors. Blacks and Jews will always vote democratic. Their united by a shared history of oppression at the hands of racists and natzis- who vote for the gop.

Contractor

June 1st, 2011
10:28 am

HDB,

The truth hurts? What truth do you speak of? The majority of your race solely votes on who will give them the most without them earning it. That’s why they vote Democrat, because they thought Obama would pay their mortgage, gas money, etc. It’s all on camera. They are so blinded by his color that they didn’t even know who his Vice President would be, some even thought Sarah Palin. So don’t sit there and try to act like it isn’t happening, because the statistics prove the point and on camera interviews prove the point. The reason America will never move on is because the ones screaming racism at every turn are the ones that spread the hate through their kids and spread it through the newer generations. I am not scared to speak the truth, so that probably hits harder than your so called “truth”.

Harry Callahan

June 1st, 2011
10:33 am

“While black-packed districts yielded some quite respectable pols — including U.S. Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.) ”

LMAO

Mike

June 1st, 2011
10:36 am

“Strange that Cynthia is suddenly against gerrymandering districts now that Republicans are in charge. She sure didn’t have a problem with it ten years ago when the Democrats did it.”

And that folks, is what her entire article is getting at. Now that the R’s are in charge, we should abandon this policy. She is so predictable…Helloooo.

ridin the white pony

June 1st, 2011
10:43 am

If it requires personal resposibity it has to be RACIST!

HDB

June 1st, 2011
10:44 am

Contractor
June 1st, 2011
10:28 am

So you’re saying that the few that have been interviewed are representative of the many? If I were to look at that, then I’d be correct to say that the racist elements of the Tea Party are representative of the GOP as a whole!! We both know that what is done by a few is not indicative of what is done by the many!

“The reason America will never move on is because the ones screaming racism at every turn are the ones that spread the hate through their kids and spread it through the newer generations.” True…but also note that it is on BOTH sides of the political spectrum…but the GOP wants to LEGISLATE its racism with laws similar to SB1070……

Peabody T. Justice

June 1st, 2011
11:04 am

Ms. Tucker wants to create districts that are more equitable in their racial distribution? Hmmm, let’s go ask Rep. David Scott’s white constituents if he pays attention to their needs as substantial minorities in his district the way he does his black constituents, who make up a slight majority. What about the voters in south Cobb who got rid of Don Wix, an established and effective Democrat legislator, just because he was white?

Kamchak

June 1st, 2011
11:13 am

…cause we are all quiet frankly sick and tired of hearing it every single time you post.

All?

Who, exactly, granted you the authority to speak for “all”?

I certainly didn’t grant you the authority to speak for me.

Tommy Maddox

June 1st, 2011
11:47 am

“When the only issue is race, idiots win, black and white.”

Yep.

Not at the Trough

June 1st, 2011
11:49 am

I don’t understand how blacks were “pushed” into their districts, but if you say so. You have been wrong about a lot of things. I am glad you are able to say so about at least one. You are sure right about DeKalb county. The northern half of the county has never been represented.

Get It Right

June 1st, 2011
11:53 am

Well, CT, looks as though most of the posters have seen through your very questionable logic and are calling you on it. Vote the person, not the skin color.

DawgDad

June 1st, 2011
12:06 pm

Cynthia, you’re showing signs here of recognizing a fundamental truth and displaying uncommon wisdom; please don’t let this opportunity pass. First, don’t feel bad about being wrong. It’s not about that. It is all about understanding that when politicians attempt to force outcomes instead of focusing on creating opportunity inevitably it limits freedom (creates tyrrany), corrupts the system, creates harmful unintended consequences, and costs a heck of a lot more than anyone ever expected.

You cannot have it both ways without being hypocritical. Surely you can see that if all you are about is “getting your way” that is NOT a fair-minded public policy. The vast, vast majority of Republicans and Conservatives are all about creating a level playing field and optimizing opportunity for everyone; this is certainly true of the Tea Party and not so much for liberals (otherwise, why ObamaCare and all the waivers [corruption run amok], huh? huh?).

I am very much willing to look beyond the color of a politician’s skin. I support Herman Cain because creating opportunity for all Americans is the core of his political platform and the framework for his political thought. I’ve listened to him speak for many years and cannot recall ever disagreeing with anything he said.

Emmanuel Hall

June 1st, 2011
12:11 pm

Ms. Tucker, I truly respect people like you who have the courage of their convictions and who are willing to re-think a point of view. I have not, until now, given the predominately Black districts much thought. However, it has crossed my mind that once a Black person is elected, it appears to be a life time job. I am troubled with that too. Black people don’t seems to pay as much attention to their Black elected officials to see if they are worthy of their continued support. And I can tell you that Ms. McKinney does not stand alone.

Ivan

June 1st, 2011
12:25 pm

“When the only issue is race, idiots win, black and white.”

This explains a lot from the left. Have a nice day!

c tuck daffy duck

June 1st, 2011
12:43 pm

I was just thinking about buying you a thesaurus, CT so that you could concoct more pejoratives for conservatives. Try
Ultramega right wing
Ultraconservatives
Hyperconservative white people
Metawhite people
Hyperstupid prejudice
Hyperpartisan nonblack enemies
prefixes handy for your biz: meta.hyper. uber. Ultra. Super duper. Golly gee willikers

DebbieDoRight

June 1st, 2011
12:46 pm

Metawhite people
Hyperstupid prejudice
Hyperpartisan nonblack enemies

Oh yeah, that’s right……..the kiddies are out of school for the summer…….. :roll:

resno2

June 1st, 2011
12:48 pm

“The election of a black president shows that American voters are willing to look beyond a candidate’s skin color.” Seriously? I’d be willing to bet that half of his votes were BECAUSE he was black.

“When the only issue is race, idiots win, black and white.” And they did.

guy

June 1st, 2011
1:14 pm

All CT discusses is skin color and race crap. She is paid a lot for meaningless subjects. Get real!!!!

Grasshopper

June 1st, 2011
1:24 pm

‘I’ll get the most difficult part of this column over right now: I was wrong.”

This shows what a hack you are Tucker. Admitting an error isn’t difficult at all — unless you are an arrogant egotist.

And to come to the conclusion that racial gerrymandering was a mistake only after your preferred race stops reaping the benefits…lot’s of nerve Tucker.

Harry Callahan

June 1st, 2011
1:31 pm

HDB

June 1st, 2011
10:44 am

“…but also note that it is on BOTH sides of the political spectrum…but the GOP wants to LEGISLATE its racism with laws similar to SB1070……”

SB1070 applies equally to illegal aliens of ALL races, HDB, but don’t let mere facts get in the way of your ignorant rant.

Sam

June 1st, 2011
1:34 pm

if race is not an issue, why is Obama hated so much, never mind that he has continued every policy that all past presidents has pushed, the one achievement he got thru was healthcare. I might disagree with the deals that was made to push it thru. We needed this done. I must remind all whites that the slave master didnt beat his slaves. He got another black slave to do it for him.Then turned around and said i never laid a hand on u, and the boast how good to them. Just because a black conservative is socalled liked by whites ,dont mean ur not a racist. Vote ur ecomomical interest, Why so many whites dont is mind boggling

Harry Callahan

June 1st, 2011
1:38 pm

“Vote ur ecomomical interest, Why so many whites dont is mind boggling”

I am voting my economic interests, so thanks. I agree with you on one thing though…why so many other whites vote against their economic interests by voting Democrat is a mystery to me.

By the way…spelling, grammar, and syntax my not be your highest calling in life.

HDB

June 1st, 2011
1:52 pm

Harry Callahan
June 1st, 2011
1:31 pm

Harry, if such were the case, why is the primary focus placed on Hispanics? If the law focused on white, blond, Nordic types, would the law have been enacted???

HDB

June 1st, 2011
1:56 pm

Harry Callahan
June 1st, 2011
1:38 pm
“I am voting my economic interests, so thanks. I agree with you on one thing though…why so many other whites vote against their economic interests by voting Democrat is a mystery to me.”

Harry….many white people vote Democratic for the same reason that mnay minorities do: it IS in their economic interest!! For many, economic opportunities IMPROVE under Democratic Administrations…and DECLINE under Republican! Speaking only for myself, I GAINED economically only during the Clinton years….and am presently recovering from the malady that the Bush years (both 41 and 43) sent me through! It’s not all about race, you know…………

Dick Hertz

June 1st, 2011
1:58 pm

Kind of funny you ripping on Cynthia McKinney for budding up with Gaddafi, considering John McCain was doing it last year. This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard from Ms. Tucker.
This country has 99 problems, one might say, but McKinney isn’t one of them. The Koch brothers, corruption, Obama’s default to being black Bush, the death of the fourth amendment by both parties’ hand, endless wars for oil, the death of progressive taxation, justice for those without money and license for those with cash.

Wiie

June 1st, 2011
3:05 pm

Tucker barely mentions the impact od the Voting Rights Act. Sensible people tried to end it a few years ago but the civil-rights industry would have none of it. As a result the democratic party in Georgia is on it’s way to being the black party…it’s what you get when you count by race. Using race based decisions to overcome race based decisions is a bad idea.

Tucker does not believe in the notions of right and wrong. She only believes un useful and not useful. Gerrymandering (NEVER more outrageous than under Roy Barnes) is no longer useful to Tucker and her “side”.

Could she be more of a hypocrite?

Harry Callahan

June 1st, 2011
3:08 pm

“Harry….many white people vote Democratic for the same reason that mnay minorities do: it IS in their economic interest!! For many, economic opportunities IMPROVE under Democratic Administrations…and DECLINE under Republican! Speaking only for myself, I GAINED economically only during the Clinton years….and am presently recovering from the malady that the Bush years (both 41 and 43) sent me through! It’s not all about race, you know…………”

Really???

The data represents the prices of key goods and employment figures when Obama took office compared to more recent data. Helps to explain why we are feeling so much pain for our every day items.

Avg Retail price/gallon gas in U.S……$1.83………$3.44………..84%
Crude Oil, Barrel……..………$43.48…….$99.02……..127%
Crude Oil, West Tx Barrel…….…….$38.74…….$91.38……..139%
Gold………………$835………$1369………60.5%
Corn No 2 Yellow………………$3.56……..$6.33………78.1%
Soybeans…………………….$9.66………$13.75…….42.3%
Sugar, raw…………………..$13.37…….$35.39……164%
Unemployment (non-farm) ………..7.6%…….9.4%……..23.7%
Unemployment Rate (b!acks)… …….12.2%…….15.8%…….25.4%
Number Unemployed………11,616,000……14,485.000……24.7%
Number of Fed Employees……2,779,000………2,840,000……..2.2%
Median Household Income………$50,112……$49,777…..-.7%
Food Stamp recipients………31,983,716……43,200,878……35.1%
No. Unemployment Benefits….7,526,598……..9,193,838……..22.2%
No. Long Term Unemployed……..2,600,000……..6,400,000…….146%
Poverty Rate………13.2%…….14.3%…….8.3%
US Rank in Economic Freedom Index……5………9………..80%
Failed Banks……………….140……………164……….17.1%
Dollar versus Japanese Yen……89.76………82.03……..-8.6%

HDB

June 1st, 2011
3:32 pm

Harry Callahan
June 1st, 2011
3:08 pm

Speaking solely for myself….I’m feeling LESS pain now than I did under Republicans!! Under GOP Administrations, I LOST EMPLOYMENT! Try coping with economic hardship when your earning power decreases to ZERO!!! Two years unemployed under Nixon, Reagan, Bush41 AND 43, the aftereffects of 9/11 (which generated the period of unemployment)…..

Under Clinton: earning power increased 2.5 times in 5 years
Under Obama: earning power nearly QUADRUPLED in 2 years (zero to $23.46/hr).

What the nation is feeling is the aftermath of what transpired during the BUSH Years: two wars, cuts in domestic spending, tax breaks for those of means, unemployment…….

To ask the question: Are you better off than you were 4 years ago?? MY answer: HELL YES!!!

Paddy O

June 1st, 2011
3:44 pm

debbie – if you voted for a guy based on the color of his skin, that is racist. so please, answer the freakin question.

Paddy O

June 1st, 2011
3:50 pm

Conservative: Believes in freedom and consequences from decisions, good & bad. Sees a poor person, and feels that person needs to change their behavior to improve their outcomes.

Liberal: See a poor person and says “the government must help”; ie, save that person from themself. That is the root of tyranny. However, liberals dress it up as elitests acting with charity and generosity (with someone elses $$), thus reinforcing their impression of superiority.

ODDOWL

June 1st, 2011
4:09 pm

@ BILL 8:35 post…. You’re naive and ignorant… A higher percentage of Black voters voted for Al Gore in 2000 than the percentage of Black voters who voted for President Obama in 2008. In the midterm elections last year, only 25% of pessimistic Black voters voted. So these facts and figures blow holes all through your flawed logic argument. As long as corrupt politicians and political parties who have been bribed by the rich and elite are allowed to draw and re-draw congressional district voting lines, gerrymandering will continue. The voters must demand that a non partisan, unbias independent group of experts be appointed to draw and re-draw congressional district lines without any regards to the desires of politicians or political parties. The color of money is green and thats the only color politicians give a hoot about. Everythings thats wrong with America can be traced directly to the doorsteps of We the People. (voters)

Joe

June 1st, 2011
4:10 pm

HDB:

Racism goes both ways but blacks along with the far left don’t seem to understand that. It’s not a white’s only issue. Blacks vote for every single black candidate because that’s what they are told to do. It will be a great day in America when people will base their vote solely on the candidate’s record instead of their skin color. Take the Presidential election for example. 95%+ voted for the lesser qualified candidate. To back up my argument if you put Barrack Obama’s record up against John McCain’s it would be a no brainer.

casual observer

June 1st, 2011
4:14 pm

Fiddling while Rome burns. This administration is bringing America to its knees. And we’re talking about an idiot like Jim “gerrymander” Clyburn. Who said we should spend our way out of debt.. Hey dumba$$ how’s that working for us?

Tucker is the master of “slight of hand”. Talking about Romney etc. While Americas economy goes down the tubes, and her Messiah is driving the boat.

ODDOWL

June 1st, 2011
4:40 pm

@ Harry Callahan 3:08 post…. The non rich people who vote Republican are naive and use flawed logic and imploy selective amnesia in their attempts to justify the miserable failures of the Bush/Cheney economic and political policies. The naive, non rich Republicans seem to think oops, er i mean feel that the Bush/Cheney economic meltdown stopped dead in its tracks when Bush/Cheney left office. Well, thats not true. We Americans will be haunted with the repercussions of the Bush/Cheney deregulated economic failures for decades to come. Beginning with Reagan, the Republicans have been screwing up our Country for 30 years now. The Republicans are the problem. If We the People get rid of the Republicans, we can get rid of the problem.

Paddy O

June 1st, 2011
4:56 pm

Dont be a fool: Whites voted democratic because Lincoln was republican, and most dixiecrats were more conservative then repubs from CA, NJ, NY & IL. Barnes pulled the wool off, and now white reject the Dems plantation government. At the federal level, the moron Obama appears hell bent on destroying the value of the US $$ by simply printing more & more money, thus reducing the value of a single dollar. Obama has an obligation to balance the budget. It was he who was going to close gitmo, get the US out of Iraq. He has done nothing (50,000 troops still in Iraq – for what?) How do you explain his unconstitutional was against Libya? Healthcare, if you support, you support tyranny. If the feds can legally mandate that you buy health insurance, even if you don’t want/need it, what prevents them from mandating that you buy anything?

Why do those trust this administration? Because they went to Ivy League schools? Those are the same schools that provided the economic housing depression CEO’s. Maybe the elite are only really good at one thing: manipulating public opinion. Vote liberal if you have no confidence in yourself, or you like having the government hand things out to you.

Paddy O

June 1st, 2011
4:57 pm

HDB – you need to tell us what government job is paying you $23.98, and where in the stimlus this job was created.

Tom Middleton

June 1st, 2011
5:04 pm

But what about the old adage: “There’s strength in numbers”? Can we conclude that majority-minority gerrymandering was a necessary step in the ongoing battle for equality – to get some good people into the spotlight, like John Lewis, to help break down racial stereotypes?

And let’s face it: As long as race is an issue in the region at large, it will continue showing up in our politics, always being used against those trying to be free and equal, no matter what they do or how often.

There is a solution to all of this, of course, but it’s not political; it’s religious. If Christian love became the driving force in our day-to-day living instead of hatred and fear, all these annoying problems would disappear in no time, as would the necessary government involvement that seeks to address them in the name of constitutional integrity. Golly, Sargent Carter: Everybody would win!

Rockerbabe

June 1st, 2011
5:27 pm

geez, when are the girls going to get some consideration? all the old boys in the legislature with their ancient ideas about women and the crazy women who support them are not doing one thing to advance the cause of equality for women? any ideas?

Paddy O

June 1st, 2011
5:35 pm

rockerbabe- ancient as Adam & Eve? What gender legalized the murder of the unborn? What is your impression of the Billy Jean King/Bobby Riggs contest? Why do females love segregated sports, too much equality otherwise? Or, are you seeking equality of outcome? (Tyranny of the relatively incapable?)

Paddy O

June 1st, 2011
5:40 pm

Also, Rocker – since your gender does not register for the draft, should that NOT be the first order of business? You have equality of opportunity, and your gender utilizes to attend school and then what? Obtain more post graduate degrees? Without the ability to maximize your earning potential? How much spoon feeding of success does your gender demand?

casual observer

June 1st, 2011
6:08 pm

When we all Obama “water carriers” admit he’s a failure? OR Better yet …are they willing to go down the tubes with him? Just because he’s black? Because he’s a liberal or Democrat? Where does a liberals alleigance really lie? With Obama or with America? It’s a fact his economic policies are a overwhelming failure. America hasn’t been this weak or divided in decades. How long?

Gingrich asked a good question. And it goes further than what’s on the surface. What do the people want? A “Food Stamp” president or one that creates anatmosphere in our Republic that stimulates private job growth? 79% of our economy.

Tom Middleton

June 1st, 2011
6:27 pm

And one more thing, Cyn: Do you think we would be witnessing the phenomenal “Arab Spring” now were it not for the United States’ open-book history of fighting for the oppressed within our own borders? Not a chance!

Our foreign policy may have been imperfect, but we taught the rest of the world what democracy is all about when we fought to raise our own, apparently a well-intentioned-enough effort for others to want it for themselves.

Cynthia, please forgive me for disagreeing with your column today; but for different reasons, I don’t think you were wrong at all!

Tom Middleton

June 1st, 2011
6:34 pm

Cynthia, you’re so good that even your mistakes are right!

BBG

June 1st, 2011
6:34 pm

Gerrymandering blows, man.

Rollie

June 1st, 2011
6:36 pm

Cynthia Tucker I actually enjoyed reading this piece. It’s nice to occasionally have some thoughtful, semi-calm words instead of rants. I am a little skeptical, however, that you would’ve advocated doing away with racial gerrymandering if Democrat gerrymanderers were still running the State.

Paddy O

June 1st, 2011
6:39 pm

Mr. Middleton – I would urge you to be careful what you wish for. The domino theory obviously has some merit, but the change evidently must be from an oppressive society to more freedom, not vice versa. However, I suspect the relationship the US will have with these newly minted democracies may not be a smooth, or amicable, as the one we had with the dictators. We shall see how well arab/muslims deal with compromise and disappointment, and the rule of law. Also, I concur with you – one of the consequence may be more strident representatives, but without these majority minority districts, it is possible that you would have no (or far, far fewer) people of color representing anyone, so I see them as avenues of experience and role modeling. I would not remove them.

0311/0317 -1811/1801

June 1st, 2011
6:42 pm

CYNTHIA:

PLEASE GO BACK ON VACATION.

Tom Middleton

June 1st, 2011
7:33 pm

Well, it’s like in our country, Paddy: We had people FOR civil rights and those of you against, but the ones for them won the street battles, got the legislation, and come hell or high water, they’re not going backwards.

You cannot understand democracy without knowing something of the complete human spirit. Would you willingly give up your rights and go backwards for any reason? No? Then neither will anyone else give up theirs or the chance to have them.

Our Founders were genius, for they knew something many of us even today have yet to fathom: that freedom is innate to being human. All we have to do as a nation is demonstrate it in every domestic arena as the issues arise and others everywhere will want it for themselves and start standing up.

What a perfect solution to our immigration problems and the need to spread democracy for the whole world’s benefit, not just ours, yes? And, I might add, it’s one a damn sight cheaper than anything done thus far!

Tom Middleton

June 1st, 2011
7:40 pm

Don’t listen to Scout, Cynthia: You’ve got it going on!!

Lil' Barry Bailout

June 1st, 2011
8:00 pm

If Obozo is a capitalist, why is the Dow below 12,300?

[...] Cynthia McKinney: “While black-packed districts yielded some quite respectable pols — including U.S. Rep. [...]

Jack

June 1st, 2011
8:21 pm

I call it a breath of fresh air. Tucker’s too smart to keep on & on beating a dead horse.

0311/0317 -1811/1801

June 1st, 2011
8:38 pm

Lil’ Barry Bailout :

Don’t do that ……… you’ll confuse them.

Moderate Line

June 1st, 2011
9:36 pm

If black voters think they have made substantial gains simply by having more black representatives in Congress, they’re wrong. They’d have more influence if they were spread through several legislative districts, forcing more candidates to court them.

The political landscape has been transformed since the Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965 and amended 17 years later. The election of a black president shows that American voters are willing to look beyond a candidate’s skin color. It’s time to give up racial gerrymandering, which turned out not to be quite so benign.
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It is an interesting perspective. I have always believed gerrymandering is anti-democratic. I never understood why the left always seems to support anything anti-democratic since the left benefits more than the right from democracy.

Now this law is holding back redistricting reform all accross the country. Somthing most industrial democracy have done along time ago.

This issue shows the problem of being focus on outcome instead of principle.

oldguy

June 1st, 2011
9:54 pm

A quick note:
So, Cynthia, now that the “Law” is a double-edged blade it was a bad idea?? Oh Boo Hoo!!
Turn-about is fair play comes to mind. Like the bully who sneaks up and blindsides you and then cries “truse”.
I lived in Warner-Robins, Ga Houston Co for 23 years. The dems, when the controlled the legislature, Gerrymandered us into 3 different congressional districts for the distinct purpose of diluting the voting power of the largely affuent conservative military vote. 3 different districts within the city limits of a city of 75,000. They recently lost all 3 districts!!! Talk about justice.
i.e. Cynthia, it was not racial based, it was political. The military is probably the most racially neutral organization in the country!!!

OldGuy

June 2nd, 2011
12:20 am

I remember when there was more white racism than black racism. Now there is more black racism than white racism. I considered giving Obama my vote just because he is black, and I thought a black person should serve as our commander and chief at least once in my lifetime. I changed my mind when Obama talked with Joe the Plumber about “spreading the wealth around”. In 2012 I will vote for anyone over Obama, and I expect many of those fooled the first time will not be fooled again.

TnGelding

June 2nd, 2011
12:38 am

You could have stopped with I was wrong about racial… It’s big of you to be able to admit it. Let’s allow Dr. King’s dream to flourish.

TnGelding

June 2nd, 2011
12:45 am

We’ve been spreading the wealth rather successfully since the Great Depression. Wasn’t that Joe the Plumber’s Apprentice?

The courts can be used to stop gerrymandering. And should be.

giantslor

June 2nd, 2011
12:46 am

If this “racial gerrymandering” is so good for Republicans, then why has the right-wing reaction to your column been so positive? Because the policy has been BAD for Republicans. What Republicans would really like to do is spread blacks so thin that most of those black Democrats are voted out and white Republicans are voted in.

Jackspratt

June 2nd, 2011
4:14 am

What would make black voters happy? Absolutely nothing except for total control of all sections of government with whitey obliged to pay the taxes. In short, until American Blacks get something that looks like modern South Africa, nothing will make them content as small d democrats. Picking winners and guaranteeing black seats wasn’t good enough for them. Perhaps they would like a return to Reconstruction when native whites (Yankees could though) couldn’t vote. That would guarantee plenty of black seats!

Racial Gerrymandering and Idiots

June 2nd, 2011
7:13 am

[...] Cynthia Tucker, the longtime editorial page editor for the AJC, has issued a retraction. I won’t procrastinate. I’ll get the most difficult part of this column over right now: I was wrong. I was shortsighted, naïve and narrow-minded to endorse the concept of drawing Congressional districts to take racial demographics into account. [...]

Lil' Barry Bailout

June 2nd, 2011
7:14 am

Atlanta showed in the last election that it’s racist citizens are not yet advanced enough to elect a white mayor.

J coner

June 2nd, 2011
7:22 am

Cynthia reminds me of the Eddie Murphy skit on Saturday Night Live where he went undercover as a white man.

There is no secret handshake, no collaboration to keep blacks down, no conspiracy to make sure whites win. Those days are gone. Any nut job still spewing the hatred is mostly ignored. Most people just want to live their lives. Where did this belief come from that blacks can only succeed when the government gives it too them?

Maybe people are waking up to the fact that these social engineering schemes do more to articulate the differences in people than bringing them together.

Good Grief

June 2nd, 2011
7:41 am

Illinois’s version of gerrymandering has always bothered me. I brought up the 4th Congressional distrcit earlier, but if you get a chance look at the 17th. The town of Pana and the city of Decatur are both in the 17th Congressional distrcit, but to drive the shortest distance between these two towns, a distance of about 25-30 miles or so, takes you through two other districts. That’s messed up.

Paul

June 2nd, 2011
7:51 am

Actually some intelligent comments here for a change, not just the usual Cynthia bashing. Just to correct one point – Obama also fared well with the young and with the well educated. Hmmmm….

Joe

June 2nd, 2011
7:55 am

Joseph Goebbels (Hitler’s Propaganda Chief) believed that if one lies and repeats it often enough it would become truth to the public. That seems to be the case with the GOP lately – note that several herein are using the “social engineering” phrase du jour…..

Lil' Barry Bailout

June 2nd, 2011
8:11 am

McCain did well among people who love America.

What do those “well educated” Obozo voters think of his $1.5 trillion deficits and perpetual 9% unemployment? Apparently there’s a difference between education and wisdom.

MKS

June 2nd, 2011
8:38 am

It’s hard to admit when you are wrong; I have had to do it myself at times. But it’s encouraging when someone has the integrity to do it. Gerrymandering for racial reasons, or any other reason, is a bad idea.

Now, on another issue – playing the “race card”. Racism stills exists, and probably always will. Our task is to minimize it and prohibit its institutionalization. When “racism” is cited too frequently, and with false or trivial reasons, it makes people callous to the seriousness of real racism. Too many can feel that, “If I am going to be called racist for something like this, I am going to disregard the criticism altogether”. Then, real racism emerges in strength, just as the real wolf eventually comes upon the boy who falsely cried “wolf”.

I think progressives have been crying “wolf” on this matter too often in the last thirty years or so. Rep. Clyburn’s (D-SC) recent comments ascribing opposition to President Obama to racism may well be an example of this.

I do not oppose President Obama because he is partially black; I oppose President Obama because he is totally leftist.

David Granger

June 2nd, 2011
9:28 am

“…those racially gerrymandered districts also come with a significant downside”

Just like Affirmative Action and all the rest of those “but if we don’t discriminate, the numbers don’t work”, huh Cynthia?

straitroad

June 2nd, 2011
9:43 am

Most white Americans are able to look past skin color. The vast majority of black Americans either can’t or won’t look past skin color.

Kamchak

June 2nd, 2011
9:48 am

Most white Americans are able to look past skin color. The vast majority of black Americans either can’t or won’t look past skin color.

There’s your sign.

Oi!

Paddy O

June 2nd, 2011
9:49 am

I would argue institutional racism, and most cultural racism, has been eliminated. will you eliminate it from Joe Redneck in the trailer park? Probably not. Will you eliminate racism in the impoverished black living for the 3rd generation in public housing? Probably not. But, it really is not a big problem for 80% of the citizens.

Paddy O

June 2nd, 2011
9:50 am

you can’t really blame blacks for voting for a viable Presidential candidate who was black. I would bet 90% of irish catholics voted for Kennedy. It just is. Now, if you are black man who owns a business, or earns over $100,000 – and you vote for Obama in 2012, you are a distinct moron.

Robert

June 2nd, 2011
10:46 am

Gerrymandering or Annexations? The process has already begun. For example – Johns Creek and Milton cities who have annexed and are controlled by homegrown terrorist group(s) known as the “tea party” (klansmen, skinheads, birthers, etc.). The whole world saw their hatred and bigotry on display during the 2010 midterm elections and heard their call to battle (take back my country) as well as saw the majority of White Americans across this country embrace the “tea party” as a protest to President Obama, elected by the majority of all the American People in 2008. Annexations was a major cause of the civil war when Southern States tried to succeed from the Union and form their own country. “The South Will Not Rise Again”

Ann

June 2nd, 2011
10:54 am

Cynthia admitting she was wrong?! Read on and you’ll see that what follows her admission of error is the acknowledgement that she’s wrong because it didn’t turn out to favor blacks after all. If, in fact, it had favored blacks then there would have been no “wrong” in the first place. The truth is race-baiting and race favored policies are always wrong, Cynthia. They fly in the face of the goal of MLK and in the face of right and wrong. People should be treated fairly regardless of skin color. Isn’t that what those of us who believe in civil rights should be fighting for. We have had decades of affirmative action and race baiting policies and what do we have. A black president, albeit an incompetent one. And more divisive racial politics than before. District boundries should be drawn in a sensible fashion and then politicians should have to battle it out for their seats in a diverse environment. It was the dems who wanted these racial gerrymandered districts and now – they made their bed and can lie in it. Tough. After being called all kinds of names by Cynthia and her compatriots, I can muster NOT one shred of sympathy for their self-inflicted plight.

Ann

June 2nd, 2011
10:54 am

@Robert
What rock have you been living under? To call the tea party a terrorist group is so hyperbolic, hysterical, inaccurate and unfair that reading the rest of your post was just a confirmation of your complete idiocy and hatred. Your hatred and bigotry are on full display.

[...] her column from June 1, Tucker starts out by saying: Unfortunately — like so many measures designed to provide redress for historic wrongs — those [...]

Robert

June 2nd, 2011
11:19 am

@Ann
What rock have you been living under? According to the dictionary (Webster) the “tea party” fits the definition of a terrorist – “terrorism — Systematic use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective ”

What facts are you disputing about these terrorist?

1. Johns Creek and Milton cities who have annexed and are controlled by homegrown terrorist group(s) known as the “tea party” (klansmen, skinheads, birthers, etc.).

2. The “tea party” is against minorities, women, gays & lesbians and Muslims & Jews.

3. The whole world saw the hatred and bigotry on display by the “tea party” during the 2010 midterm elections and heard their call to battle (take back my country)

4. The American People saw the majority of White Americans across this country embrace the “tea party” and vote for the entire GOP ticket regardless of the candidates experience as a protest to President Obama, elected by all the American People in 2008.

5. Annexations was a major cause of the civil war when Southern States tried to succeed from the Union and form their own country.

6. “The South Will Not Rise Again”

It’s time to choose sides. The American People or the homegrown terrorist group(s) known as the “tea party” – What side are you on?

Paddy O

June 2nd, 2011
11:20 am

Robert – you are so full of manure it is leaking out your ears, and your eyes are brown.

Lil' Barry Bailout

June 2nd, 2011
11:23 am

#4 is my fave–failing to vote for Dear Leader’s party is racism.

Moron.

Robert

June 2nd, 2011
11:25 am

@Paddy O
It’s time to choose sides. The American People or the homegrown terrorist group(s) known as the “tea party” – What side are you on? Repent…or face the consequences of your actions.

Paddy O

June 2nd, 2011
11:25 am

Cynthia is wrong about being wrong. I think she just does not like the marginalization of the democratic party which resulted from Barnes’ flag change.

Paddy O

June 2nd, 2011
11:28 am

Robert: Via you own definition, what violence has the TEA party committed? Griping about the gross ineptitude of Obama? That is freedom of speech. YOU were OK voting for neophyte Obama, but protest electing simple congressman with little experience? Sir, thou art a clown.

Kamchak

June 2nd, 2011
11:28 am

Shorter Ann @ 10:54: Boo-hoo-hoo

Paddy O

June 2nd, 2011
11:29 am

The TEA party is for lower taxes, all the rest you ascribe to them is you own delusions.

Paddy O

June 2nd, 2011
11:32 am

Robert – i would not be on the side of someone so obviously delusional as yourself. You do not provide credible arguments for your assertions. What about, what appears from Obama’s drunken spending, Obama’s destruction of the value of the US dollar? Does that worry you? Once the economy does recover, it will be anchored by inflation, due to the loss of value to the $$$. Are you NOT worried about deficit spending? If not, why?

Kamchak

June 2nd, 2011
11:33 am

Are you NOT worried about deficit spending? If not, why?

But…but…but…Cheney said that Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.

Translation — IOKIYAR

Paddy O

June 2nd, 2011
11:34 am

What consequences are you pretending to be able to bring about?

Paddy O

June 2nd, 2011
11:38 am

Robert – you are a disciple of the Nazi Goering. Keep repeating the domestic terrorist. We shall see what type of cult you develop.

Call it like it is

June 2nd, 2011
11:49 am

Oh, I will take the Tea Party………….and Robert we know where you live.

Robert

June 2nd, 2011
11:49 am

@Paddy O
One of the most successful tactics used by terrorist is “fear” and the “tea party’ has fanned the flames by insisting that the economy is going to get worst and people are going to lose their jobs, homes and not be able to maintain our standard of living which is causing alot of people to give in to this “fear” tactic and cling to people who claim to be looking out for their best interest (TV/Radio media, etc.).

I have faith and I fear God not man and I hope and pray everyday which gives me hope and strengthens me. I will not give in to fear, hatred or rage/mob mentality. My God provides for all my needs not the USA government. It’s time to choose sides. The American People-In God We Trust or the homegrown terrorist group(s) known as the “tea party” – What side are you on?

BBG

June 2nd, 2011
11:55 am

Paddy/Robert: you’re both wrong. God doesn’t have a fiscal policy. Goering was forgiven, like the two of you have been.

You see, God does forgive morons too, you know.