Osama’s jihadist dreams died before he did

WASHINGTON — Osama bin Laden lived long enough to see a widespread revolt among Arabs who want nothing to do with his murderous philosophy or his twisted, despotic version of Islam. He knew that his vision for a 7th century caliphate was already dead.

No one knows how the uprisings that started in Tunisia and set off pro-democracy protests across the Arab world will end. The oppressive Syrian government has cracked down brutally; Libya seems bogged down in stalemate, unable to rid itself of the tyrant Ghaddifi. There is more hope for democratic institutions to break through in a country such as Egypt, with a long tradition of a functioning civil society.

Whatever the eventual outcome, though, none of those home-grown uprisings owe allegiance to bin Laden or al-Qaida. There are certainly conservative Islamists among the protestors; it would be naïve to think they wouldn’t be represented.

But they have been just one faction among many. The so-called Arab spring has been fueled by women, many well-educated, some wearing the veil and many without it; by young Muslims who want the chance to vote in free and open elections; by an impoverished peddler who was sick of the tyranny of a corrupt state. Osama was not their inspiration.

Most Muslims were never enthralled by al-Qaida or the violence it represented. And Osama lost his opportunity to win more converts with his indiscriminate carnage, which killed Muslims, including women, children and the handicapped. Indeed, al-Qaida used children and the mentally handicapped to carry out its savage suicide bombings.

President Barack Obama noted al-Qaida’s wanton savagery in his speech to the nation Sunday night: “Bin Laden was not a Muslim leader; he was a mass murderer of Muslims. Indeed, al-Qaida has slaughtered scores of Muslims in many countries, including our own. So his demise should be welcomed by all who believe in peace and human dignity.”

In the days and weeks to come, Americans will be reminded many times by our elected and appointed leaders that the war against jihadists is not over. The president has already said so. There will be more terrorists to run to ground, more suicide bombers to disrupt, more intelligence to gather on training grounds and financial networks.

But Osama’s grand plans died before he did. And there’s a little bit of poetic justice in his lingering long enough to see his worldview clearly rejected by so much of the Arab world.

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Eli Jones

May 3rd, 2011
9:36 am

Obama the glory hound was sure quick to claim credit for killing Bin Laden. That said, let me point something out. It was Bush’s policy of Water Boarding that made Khalid Sheikh Mohammed sing like a parakeet and name Bin Laden’s personal courier. That courier’s name led us straight to Bin Laden’s residence. Yep, it’s Bush’s Fault that Osama was killed.

TommyJack

May 3rd, 2011
9:36 am

Who are you and what have you done with Cynthia?

JB

May 3rd, 2011
10:19 am

OK, it’ll snow in July. I can find no fault with this article. Go read.

JB

May 3rd, 2011
10:19 am

s/b good read

Tech Man

May 3rd, 2011
10:59 am

Charlie Sheen tours Alabama tornado damage and offers help before FEMA gets to Spalding county!?

Tech Man

May 3rd, 2011
11:00 am

Where is the outrage?

Thulsa Doom

May 3rd, 2011
12:08 pm

I wonder how long and how much mileage Jay and Cynthia will try to get out of the UBL killing. It should last a little while until Americans have to fill up at the pump again. Then when they go to the grocery store and see how much inflation is biting them in the butt the UBL killing won’t mean quite as much to them. UBL being dead is a great thing but it sure as hell doesn’t produce a job for an American or ease the pain poor people are feeling at the pump or at the grocery store.

snoqualmiefalls

May 3rd, 2011
12:10 pm

Congrats go out to the US military, our Seals, our CIA for the elimination of bin Laden and our President who had the courage to get the job done.
As we view the upheavals in the middle east, keep in mind that the victors in these struggles will be the ones that are the best organized and mobilized such as the Muslim Brotherhood or Taliban or any other organized group. Merely stating a fact of history as a Chinese historian, just look at how the Communist Party succeeded… they were organized, mobilized the population with overwehming support.

Carter

May 3rd, 2011
12:33 pm

This is beyond laughable

Ramguy

May 3rd, 2011
12:36 pm

CT I love they way you so easily pull the strings of the right….lol

Carter

May 3rd, 2011
12:38 pm

Nice try snoqualmiefalls, but no cigar.

This is Bush’s victory. Obama and his Nazi minions attacked and tried to destroy the very prision where the WATERBOARDING was conducted that obtained the intel.

Thank you President Bush. You earned this victory.

BOB FROM ACCOUNT TEMPS

May 3rd, 2011
12:39 pm

when will we hear the hue and cry from the libs of the world for obama to be tried before the world court for the murder of bin laden. this poor tall muslim was never convicted of even the smallest offense and was hunted, trapped and killed without even a farce of a trial.

hahaha!!!

May 3rd, 2011
12:43 pm

@ Ramguy

Lies do not bother anyone. We laugh at your side because you are stuck hiding behind incompetent Nazi propaganda like this old delusional quack.

Kamchak

May 3rd, 2011
12:46 pm

WOW!

Two NAZI references in 5 minutes.

The sock-puppet parade has started early today.

hahaha!!!

May 3rd, 2011
12:47 pm

@Kamchak

well if the shoe fits….. ;)

TBone

May 3rd, 2011
12:49 pm

Is the Teleprompter N Chief ready to return his Nobel Peace Prize yet?

Get Real

May 3rd, 2011
1:03 pm

By the way, there’s one other person who deserves gratitude for helping ensure Usama bin Laden’s downfall at the wrong end of a Navy SEAL’s rifle. I’m thinking of the person who said in October of 2001, “We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter; and we will not fail. Peace and freedom will prevail.” It’s also the same person who gave our courageous military members their marching orders as commander-in-chief almost 10 years ago: President George W. Bush.

It’s worth noting, Al Qaeda did not become a nemesis to our nation and the free world during President Bush’s time in office. The fingerprints of the terrorist network were on the 1993 attempted bombing of the World Trade Center that ultimately killed six and the 2000 attack against the USS Cole that left 17 sailors dead and over 30 injured. Both occurred on Bill Clinton’s watch as president.

It was, however, President Bush who led our nation through the aftermath of 9/11 by declaring an unequivocal ‘War on Terror;’ making and honoring every commitment to support it despite the political consequences; and keeping our country safe until the day he left office. Not surprisingly, reports now suggest that the intelligence which helped seal bin Laden’s fate was rooted in enhanced interrogation work and results that took place during President Bush’s administration.

Sunday’s successful operation was a major victory in the ongoing battle to defeat the murderous terrorists who continue to have the United States in their crosshairs. And President Obama’s role with it is an encouraging sign for many reasons. Here’s hoping he’s finally realized his predecessor’s tough stance on terrorism was right all along.

kayaker 71

May 3rd, 2011
1:13 pm

All of the liberal horn tooting about what a strategist and cool thinker that Bozo is. He threatened to and tried to close Gitmo where, via water boarding, KSM gave us the answers we needed to get Osama. He and his friends in the media and in Congress were against most of the techniques, including rendition and wire tapping foreign conversations that led to the success in this event. Holder and others must have a lot of egg on their face after his and the media’s withering criticism of Bush, Cheney and Rummy whose techniques Bozo is using and what made this all happen. How many times in the primaries did Bozo level down on just the things he used successfully? No credit for Bush and others that really made these events real. And Bozo will play this like a cheap fiddle leading up to 2012. CT, your hero has not had a good original thought since being sworn in.

mmm, mmm, mmm, Barack the LIAR Obama - BEND OVER, Here comes the CHANGE!

May 3rd, 2011
1:19 pm

Cynthia, I think it’s time for YOU to move to a Muslim country for a while.

Tech Man

May 3rd, 2011
2:01 pm

At lunch I spoke to a church member whose son is in Afghanistan. He, for obvious reasons, is following the news more carefully than most of us, lamented that his son spent most of his time as almost a target while these guys were able to shoot to kill regardless of a civilian nearby.
Come on Obama let all our troops take it to the terrorists.

barking frog

May 3rd, 2011
2:07 pm

OBL was either stupid or dead before the raid, I would think the latter.

WAR

May 3rd, 2011
2:39 pm

God bless America, the president, and SEALs

Boca Baby

May 3rd, 2011
2:56 pm

Cynthia: “…his murderous philosophy or his twisted, despotic version of Islam”. Have you read the Koran? You might be surprised to find that Bin Laden was right in line the its teachings. Please, come out from beneath your shell, wake up and smell the coffee.

Boca Baby

May 3rd, 2011
2:58 pm

Cynthia: “…his murderous philosophy or his twisted, despotic version of Islam”. Have you read the Koran? You might be surprised to find that Bin Laden was right in line with its teachings. Please, come out from beneath your shell, wake up and smell the coffee.

There I have corrected the typo.

WAR

May 3rd, 2011
3:02 pm

this is a new icon i just made up in honor of the president, America, and men and women who serve this great country: >*v*< its suppose to be an eagle!

if you can make this into a real icon then do it. just pass it along!

Purple People Eater

May 3rd, 2011
3:15 pm

Do all of the Tree Huggers still hate Gitmo?

WAR

May 3rd, 2011
3:22 pm

as i leave you today, remember this: two wrongs dont make it right, but two bullets will.

Purple People Eater

May 3rd, 2011
3:25 pm

WAR

that is terrible.

Purple People Eater

May 3rd, 2011
3:30 pm

Obama: “I will close Gitmo if elected.”

Obama, January 2009: “Wow. That is alot of great information. I don’t give a shiite what kind of interrogation practices you are using. Keep it coming.”

Obama, February 2009: “Uhh, yeah, umm, we are gonna keep Gitmo open.”

Your welcome all of you limpwristed liberals.

ElephantWhip

May 3rd, 2011
3:54 pm

To those using OBL’s death as justification for GITMO, etc.:

Ends do not justify means. Let’s presume that questionable tactics were used, not normal interrogation of a prisoner of war. The fact that the information was rendered that way does not prove that the information might not have been gained from the same source using normal interrogation. And the fact that Obama used information possibly gained from inhumane torture does not condone it. What was he supposed to do: ‘Nah, let’s not get OBL because the information would validate poor tactics.’

It’s pretty sad when you try to glorify torture due to results from the information gained. Along the same logic, you should praise abortion (which I do not) because of the information gained through stem cell research.

B Cosby

May 3rd, 2011
5:20 pm

I find it curious that Osama is killed just days after Obama finally produced a birth certificate. Do you think Osama refused to pay return postage on the birth certificate when Obama is finished with it?

Joe

May 3rd, 2011
5:24 pm

I’m still waiting Cindy for you to admit waterboarding works…. Thats how we got the intel….

JohnnyReb

May 3rd, 2011
5:42 pm

Just a reminder to those on the Left – all the crowing about what Obama has done to kill OBL is mostly BS. Yes, he deserves credit for taking a political risk – however – do you think he/Obama really had a choice? The intelligence teams have been hunting OBL for over ten years. Obama did not decide to all of a sudden find and kill OBL. Instead, it was reported to Obama that OBL had been located. Obama really had no choice. It would have been political suicide not to go after OBL. The risk Obama took was the possibility of a failed mission going down in history with that of the peanut farmer’s attempt to rescue the hostages in Iran.

Furthermore, the crowing by the administration is based on successes of policies started in the Bush administration that Obama campaigned against and has widly talked down. He was against it before he was for it. Meanwhile, gasoline is on the way to $5 bucks a gallon and Obama apparently likes that direction.

Kyle

May 3rd, 2011
6:40 pm

To those already poo pooing Obama’s role in this thing: Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe, because Bush & Cheney were such complete overbearing idiots when it came to international relations that other “allies” just waited till they were gone before really ponying up the intel they had in their possession? Like it or not, Obama is highly respected and liked by our allies overseas.
Of course there is also the possibility that both Bush and Cheney, who are both members of the Carlyle Group as well as the Bin Laden family, simply looked the other way at Tora Bora years ago at the behest of the Bin Laden family. Their prize for doing so? Enrichment beyond their wildest dreams by being given Iraq on a silver platter; their only obstacle to somehow concoct a plausible story connecting Saddam with Osama to use as a pre-text for war. Gee, no bid war time contracts for Haliburton(run by Cheney for years), and billions in unchecked cash for the Bush and Cheney cabal.

ATL Girl

May 3rd, 2011
6:57 pm

Kyle says:Obama’s role in this thing: Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe, because Bush & Cheney were such complete overbearing idiots when it came to international relations that other “allies” just waited till they were gone before really ponying up the intel they had in their possession?

Um, no, I don’t think that and probably never will.

“Obama is highly respected and liked by our allies overseas.”

No, actually he’s not. Did you also not notice that he was snubbed at that little wedding last week?

“Gee, no bid war time contracts for Haliburton(run by Cheney for years)”

Wow, Kyle, you need to brush up on your research. Bill Clinton gave Haliburton no-bid contracts, and so has Obama. Nice try.