Birtherism stalks GOP, scaring the establishment

Perhaps Reince Priebus, the new head of the Republican National Committee, has no choice but to pretend he’s not worried about birther nonsense, which is proliferating like alien pods and threatening to take over the entire Republican Party. “I don’t think that it’s an issue that moves voters,” he told a journalists’ roundtable this morning. He wishes that were true.

Last week, a New York Times poll showed that 45 percent of Republican voters — that’s nearly half, folks — claim not to believe that Obama was born in the United States. And it doesn’t stop there. As I wrote then, a Public Policy Poll shows that

Only 38% of Republican primary voters say they’re willing to support a candidate for President next year who firmly rejects the birther theory and those folks want Mitt Romney to be their nominee for President next year. With the other 62% of Republicans- 23% of whom say they are only willing to vote for a birther and 39% of whom are not sure- Donald Trump is cleaning up.

Here’s the problem for the establishment GOP, the part that hasn’t taken leave of its senses. Its members know that any candidate who coddles that paranoid nonsense will not be taken seriously as a general election candidate. More and more serious Republicans, especially those who have no intention of running for president, are trying to tamp down the craziness — pointing out that there are legitimate issues no which to disagree with Obama without resorting to fringe lunacy.

But it’s probably too late. The GOP nurtured this foolishness for too long, thinking it made Obama look bad. Turns out it’s not the president who looks bad as a result of birther nonsense.

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carlosgvv

April 26th, 2011
4:15 pm

A pundit once wrote that no one has ever gone broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people. This birther issue is clear proof of that. So I wouldn’t be too sure that “any candidate who coddles that paranoid nonsense will not be taken seriously”. After all, George W Bush was elected and re-elected president. That kind of nonsense makes just about anything possible in American presidential politics.

JohnnyReb

April 26th, 2011
4:22 pm

If the election was today, Obama would lose by a landslide even with the Republican candidate marching on the courthouse in Hawaii to see the birth certificate. The only people truly worried about birthers are the Left. But, what is there to worry about? Perhaps it’s what’s on the certificate, maybe under Father and/or religion. There is something to hide or else he would not be doing so.

tar and feathers party

April 26th, 2011
4:24 pm

So where is the birth certificate? Who was the doctor who delivered the baby? Who were the witnesses to the birth? The burden of proof is on the CIC.

Peadawg

April 26th, 2011
4:26 pm

3 out of your last 8 columns have been about birthers. Obsessed much, Cynthia?

A Lumpkin Resident

April 26th, 2011
4:35 pm

Sorry to say, Cynthia, but this thing has legs BECAUSE of Obama’s refusal.
While you believe it makes the birthers look like the lunatic right, the birther issue lives because it makes Obama look like a guilty con-artist.

You see, I have had to produce a birth certificate for various reasons in my life, and it was not a problem. Don’t have one? Request one from your state capital of birth using their procedure. It boggles the mind that Obama could produce one TOMORROW if he wanted to, but won’t (and never has). The best someone can come up with a a copy of a certificate of live birth (not a birth certificate) and a newspaper article. You think I could get a passport with that kind of documentation?

The problem is, the more he (Obama) resists, the more he looks guilty. It is CLEAR that he spent his early childhood in a variety of place that do not include the U.S. It is not clear just when and how long (if ever) he spent in the U.S.

The facts: He is the POTUS right now, he is not going away in two years, and there are a dozen other issues on which to make him a one-term president. All of these issues will be explored. But every minute he refuses to produce something as simple as a birth certificate casts more doubt in the minds of more people. Look at the polls, Cynthia. The doubt is growing… not shrinking.

Buster Collins

April 26th, 2011
4:47 pm

Tuck:

We will never know if Obama was born here or not. The amnesty program instituted in Hawaii when it became a state in 1959 let scores of undocumented children, and adults, many born on the islands outside official records, a free ride into citizenship to ensure all were “accounted for.”

All one needed to prove they lived in Hawaii a year prior to state recognition were two witnesses to vouch for them. Why would anyone, especially a single mother, deny their child citizen into the United States when it was so easily accorded them? They wouldn’t, of course.

It’s not a mystery to me, and if you are honest, it isn’t to you, either. I’m setting my personal beliefs about you aside in hopes you will see the possibility of what I’m saying as being true.

I’m not saying Obama was not born in the US nor can I say for certain he was. Most likely we will never know. But there is legitimate doubt.

Not Blind

April 26th, 2011
4:48 pm

Like Johnny Reb said, the only people keeping the birther issue in the news is the libs. I for one would think that proof of him being born outside the US would look worse for the country than it would for Obama.

Fletch

April 26th, 2011
5:00 pm

I still like the question to which I never get an answer. What proof do you have that Obama was born in Kenya?

As tar and feathers put it – “So where is the birth certificate? Who was the doctor who delivered the baby? Who were the witnesses to the birth?

Kamchak

April 26th, 2011
5:00 pm

NaturalBorn

April 26th, 2011
5:09 pm

I am an extremely conservative and educated Republican and know that the President of the United States of America must be a “natural born citizen” of the USA. The constitution doesn’t state they “must be born on U.S. soil.” Obama’s mother is and was a citizen, thus making him a natural born citizen whether or not his was born on “our” soil. Come on people, don’t play into the hands of the dems. The reason Obama doesn’t show his birth certificate is to get all of you distracted by a silly non-issue. The more you look like conspiracy paranoiacs, the more likely he gets to stay in the oval office 4 more years! Donald Trump may be rich, but that doesn’t exclude the possibility that he’s an idiot!

Go ahead! Keep this up and let the obama-nation continue for another 4 years!!!!

Oh Fletch....really?

April 26th, 2011
5:09 pm

You have gotten numerous answers. You just choose to ignore them.

Where is your proof Obama was born in Hawaii? A certificate of live birth is not a birth certificate.

Obama has a birth certificate in Kenya. Obama’s family in Kenya say they witnessed his birth there.

Can you name one witness to his birth in Hawaii? Why did he spend millions of dollars to conceal whatever lack of proof there is in Hawaii? Why didnt he know the name of the hospital he was born in?

Oprah

April 26th, 2011
5:11 pm

While laziness, stupidity, Communism and evilness stalk the DNC

R Denis

April 26th, 2011
5:11 pm

Dear Cynthia,

Obsessed much ?

ByteMe

April 26th, 2011
5:17 pm

A certificate of live birth is not a birth certificate.

In Hawaii, yes it is exactly the same.

Obama has a birth certificate in Kenya.

Isn’t that “Fake Kenyan Birth Certificate Builder” web site the coolest?

Obama’s family in Kenya say they witnessed his birth there.

The interpreter in the conversation says “No, no they didn’t.”

Can you name one witness to his birth in Hawaii?

Friends of the family say they saw him right out of the hospital. Can you name someone who lived in Hawaii in 1961? No? Then are you sure you’re a citizen of the United States?

Why did he spend millions of dollars to conceal whatever lack of proof there is in Hawaii?

His legal team spent $2 million on post-election activities. There’s no credible break-out of what money was spent where.

Why didnt he know the name of the hospital he was born in?

Why don’t I? Because I don’t remember my birth. I’m pretty sure I was there, though.

And that concludes today’s episode of “Fun with Birther Nuts”.

Tech Man

April 26th, 2011
5:20 pm

Distraction issue pumped up by the press.

Real stories that require real research the news media doesn’t have anymore due to budget cuts:
1. National debt
2. Obama Administration suing South Dakota and Arizona over states requiring private voting on employment/union issues.
3. Jobs, Jobs
4. Reducing spending in the Federal Budget without throwing off on the states.
5. Gas prices and the folly of the Obama appointed commission.

Tech Man

April 26th, 2011
5:21 pm

Furthermore the lack of the Republicans and Democrats to produce real cuts in spending.
It’s Washington vs the Nation.
Makes me sick!

ByteMe

April 26th, 2011
5:22 pm

Makes me sick!

And if you voted for ANY incumbent, you might be part of the problem.

retired early

April 26th, 2011
5:30 pm

Cynthia

The ignorance displayed on this blog by the “birthers” is stunning, but not unexpected. These people mask their hatred of Obama, our first “Black” President, by believing any and all nonsense about him.
Those who study this phenomenon say that even when shown absolute facts that clearly defeat their beliefs…they will refuse to change their minds.
So, let them divide the GOP. They can’t get a respectable candidate out of the Primary with nut jobs like these casting votes…it will actually be fun to watch them self destruct.
Pass the popcorn.

Really last word

April 26th, 2011
5:34 pm

Liberals are name callers . . . they’ve called tea partiers every name in the book . . now they’ve created a name for those who don’t believe Obama was born in this country. Well, I call Liberals lunatics! Whenever they feel threaten . . . they start calling names. I say Obama show us your birth certificate! Time will prove that Obama is the biggest con there ever was. And he gives a whole new meaning to the phrase in American anybody can become President!!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 26th, 2011
5:37 pm

Shepard Smith: “Fox News Can Confirm That The President Of The United States Is A Citizen Of the United States, Period”

Kamchak

April 26th, 2011
5:39 pm

Well, I call Liberals lunatics!

Awwwwwwww diddums, you feel better now that you’ve got that off your chest?

Call it like I see it!

April 26th, 2011
5:42 pm

CT and other blacks, excuse me African American who follow Barack Obama without questioning his motives YOU ARE THE TRUE RACISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are the racists since you do this because he looks like you! Newsflash people………….That is RACISM!

Logical Dude

April 26th, 2011
5:42 pm

tar and feathers: So where is the birth certificate? Who was the doctor who delivered the baby? Who were the witnesses to the birth? The burden of proof is on the CIC.

I’m sorry, but NO. The burden of proof is on those claiming that there is anything wrong with the document already provided by the State of Hawaii.
Is there ANY other evidence that he was NOT born in Hawaii?

PLEASE, I’m begging ANY birther to provide ANYTHING substantial.
and still . . . nothing.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 26th, 2011
5:44 pm

Someone has been shopping at Whole Foods again and is very upset they had to wait in line.

Really?

April 26th, 2011
5:45 pm

Why are Tucker and the lefties so worried about birtherism?
I used to not pay much attention to the people who felt that Obama was not born in the US. I figured that Obama would just produce his birth cirtificate and that would be the end of it.

But he has been willing to spend millions to prevent us from seeing his birth certificate. Tucker and the other leftie pundits are unnaturally worried about people demanding a birth certificate of all things.

Is there something to this controversy? Perhaps there is something on the certificate that Obama does not want to be public? Who knows?

The easy thing is to make the long form certificate public. It’s only reasonable.

NaturalBorn

April 26th, 2011
5:46 pm

Maybe I need to be more concise: If you freaking idiot birthers don’t knock it off and stick to the REAL issues (see Tech Man’s post), OBAMA WINS IN 2012!!!!!

retired early

April 26th, 2011
5:47 pm

Last Word

Just a wild guess here but…You probably forgot that Obama graduated at the top of his class at Harvard…were did you go to college…also what part of his mother being a US citizen, therefore, automatically making him a citizen do you not “get”. Too much regurgitated Limbaugh in your blog, and not enough “common sense”.

mishanti2

April 26th, 2011
5:49 pm

How the heck are some of you so smart enough to be able to go online and type but can’t figure out how to go to a site like Factcheck.org and see the Obama birth certificate for yourself? I have seen it, reporters have seen and touched it but you all seem to be too stupid to figure it out for yourself. Yes, if you still believe this nonsense than you are STUPID! Anyone can go to the Hawaii Vital records office and look into the binder for births from 1960-1964, go to Page 1,218 and see the entry for Barrack Obama. It is there as clear as day…so stop acting so stupid. Do you honestly think the Robert’s Supreme Court would dismiss law suits if there was ANY basis to this crap??
Now as for liberals calling you all such nasty names..you are the ones calling us traitors etc. I have not heard of one real liberal saying that the Tea Party people are traitors or unpatriotic. As a former Veteran I can say–how dare anyone tell me I am not a Patriot just because I believe in the Democratic party? I served…how many of you did?
As for JOBS..you all elected all these Republicans because they conned you into thinking they were going to work on JOBS,…well it is going on 5 months..not ONE bill has been proposed to deal with jobs but plenty to cut unemployment, fire people and make those who work for the public as the bad guys.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 26th, 2011
5:50 pm

But he has been willing to spend millions to prevent us from seeing his birth certificate

Really? How much precisely and do tell us where the $ number comes from.

Logical Dude

April 26th, 2011
5:51 pm

Really? says: Why are Tucker and the lefties so worried about birtherism?

I believe this is the reason: Last week, a New York Times poll showed that 45 percent of Republican voters — that’s nearly half, folks — claim not to believe that Obama was born in the United States

Reallys? says: But he has been willing to spend millions to prevent us from seeing his birth certificate.

Ummm, you know he provided what the State of Hawaii provided him right? He POSTED THE FRIGGIN THING ONLINE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE.

Really? says: The easy thing is to make the long form certificate public. It’s only reasonable.

He can’t. Hawaiian Law says it’s not possible.

It’s only reasonable to believe that the State of Hawaii has a factual document and that to question it WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE AT ALL. That would just be illogical, and it appears much of our country can’t think on their own and use logic.
Quoting: Only 38% of Republican primary voters say they’re willing to support a candidate for President next year who firmly rejects the birther theory

ByteMe

April 26th, 2011
5:51 pm

Why are Tucker and the lefties so worried about birtherism?

Seems like the birthers are really the only ones “worried” about it, except as it continues to mess with the Republican Party. And then you go on to show you are worried about it… ergo, you’re a leftie.

A Lumpkin Resident

April 26th, 2011
5:55 pm

NaturalBorn wrote The reason Obama doesn’t show his birth certificate is to get all of you distracted by a silly non-issue.

It is not an all consuming distraction that is displacing legitimate debate. It has legs, let it run.

The only place it becomes an issue is when main-stream-media tries to pin down sitting politicians and candidates in the Republican party on the matter. They are trying to divide the party by getting candidates to pander to the birthers so as to make them less appealing. But it doesn’t work. If the politician simply says, “I have seen no proof, but I believe he is an American citizen”, then that’s enough. Birthers are not going to shun a candidate over this single issue.

So keep it up, Cynthia. Everytime MSM brings it up, a few more people doubt.

retired early

April 26th, 2011
5:58 pm

Really

Where do you get that we are “worried” about the birthed issue. We think it is hilarious. This has to take top prize as the biggest con job ever coming out of the Right Wing talk radio heads. You people are truly dumb.

Logical Dude

April 26th, 2011
6:00 pm

Lumpkin: They are trying to divide the party by getting candidates to pander to the birthers so as to make them less appealing.

I think they’re trying to get the politicians to tell the truth about the whole thing.

Lumpkin: If the politician simply says, “I have seen no proof, but I believe he is an American citizen”,

Then that politician is a lying, because the proof is RIGHT THERE WHERE ANYONE CAN SEE IT. If you take it that far that you won’t believe the document from the State of Hawaii, then just toss out EVERY state document and disregard it as “proof”.
It’s a simple answer really. “Yes, The Birth Certificate from Hawaii is proof that Obama is an American Citizen. There is no proof that he was born anywhere else.”

Say it with me now.

THERE
IS
NO
PROOF
THAT
OBAMA
WAS
BORN
ANYWHERE
ELSE

Call it like I see it!2

April 26th, 2011
6:01 pm

CT cannot handle that she is a racist because she like Obama because he looks like her and that make her a racist.

So she takes down my original post. Nice balance with alot of censorship thrown in.

ByteMe

April 26th, 2011
6:02 pm

Say it with me now.

He can’t let go of his faith. It has “legs”.

Kamchak

April 26th, 2011
6:02 pm

Where do you get that we are “worried” about the birthed issue.

Probably the same place that tells them we are scared of Sarah Palin Snowbilly Snooki.

Kamchak

April 26th, 2011
6:07 pm

Call it like I see it!2

April 26th, 2011
6:01 pm

CT cannot handle that she is a racist because she like Obama because he looks like her and that make her a racist.

So she takes down my original post. Nice balance with alot of censorship thrown in.

You mean this post?

Call it like I see it!

April 26th, 2011
5:42 pm

CT and other blacks, excuse me African American who follow Barack Obama without questioning his motives YOU ARE THE TRUE RACISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are the racists since you do this because he looks like you! Newsflash people………….That is RACISM!

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 26th, 2011
6:10 pm

I am sure the birthers are just waiting for Trump’s investigation. I mean CNN’s Anderson Cooper got the real details from Trump

TRUMP: Well I’ve been told very recently Anderson that the birth certificate is missing. I’ve been told that it’s not there and it doesn’t exist. And if that’s the case, that’s a big problem.

COOPER: Who told you that?

TRUMP: I just heard that two days ago from somebody.

COOPER: From your investigators?

TRUMP: I don’t want to say who. But I’ve been told that the birth certificate is not there, it’s missing.[...]

COOPER: Can you name even one person who your investigators have talked to?

TRUMP: I don’t want to do that right now. It’s not appropriate right now.
________________

Who and where are the investigators?

Easy E

April 26th, 2011
6:16 pm

If I were Obama, I would never let this issue die. It makes Republicans (see, I don’t call people names) look silly and distracts them from real issues. So, please Obama, keep that birth certificate on ice.

crazy loses, obama wins

April 26th, 2011
6:31 pm

if a smelly crackhead on the street corner asked to see your birth cert, would you show it?
of course not. you’d walk on, and let them keep on doing their crackhead thing…

Karen

April 26th, 2011
7:22 pm

Bithers are a mentally deficient bunch, and you can’t argue with people like that because they don’t have the ability to use reason or logic. As education budgets are slashed expect more hucksters like Trump to take advantage of them.

fool

April 26th, 2011
7:45 pm

Why doesn’t Obama just put it out there? Why are these outrageous questions? Why do so many people who have never seen his birth certificate keep telling us we don’t need to see it? Why was W criticized repeated for being incurious yet those same people are not the least bit curious about Obama’s birth certificate…or his college years….or his dealings with Tony Resnick…or Bill Ayers….or why he wants to lower the price of gas by raising taxes on oil companies…. Just curious…or is that the new stupid?

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 26th, 2011
7:48 pm

fool…you answered your own question…the new stupid!

fool

April 26th, 2011
7:52 pm

It’s funny how the rules keep changing! But that’s seems to be the way with Socialists. You may not think the fight is so good in the next few years…we have your number now.

Jack

April 26th, 2011
7:59 pm

Show us the certificate and stop the nonsense.

Kamchak

April 26th, 2011
8:00 pm

Why ask why?

Drink Bud Dry.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 26th, 2011
8:00 pm

What rules changed? And whats my number? lol.

momma

April 26th, 2011
8:00 pm

Birthers are racists. The tea-party of today is yesterday’s segregationist.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 26th, 2011
8:01 pm

He showed you the only certifcate available by law in Hawaii, so stop the nonsense!