Abortion is black genocide? Nonsense, of course

WASHINGTON — Johnny Hunter, a black preacher who opposes abortion rights, came here last week to join a protest against federal funds for Planned Parenthood. He stood behind a sign that read: “Planned Parenthood has killed more African-Americans than the KKK.”

Hunter is among Roe v. Wade’s diehard opponents, single-minded activists for whom nothing is more important than repealing a woman’s right to choose. While other voters worry about jobs, health insurance and college loans, Hunter and like-minded reactionaries focus on reproductive rights.

They have support in Congress, too. Last week’s budget negotiations were prolonged by a cadre of Republicans who tried to wipe out all federal funding for the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, which they wrongly claim is mostly in the business of providing abortions.

They lost that battle, but they never give up. (They won restrictions on abortions in Washington, D.C.) Tireless opponents of reproductive rights are already planning their next assault.

The use of race as a wedge is the latest tactic for those reactionaries, who see an opportunity to cultivate support among black Americans, especially church-goers with a conservative streak on social issues. While anti-abortionists have long derided Margaret Sanger, considered the mother of modern family planning, for her support of eugenics, their campaign to portray Planned Parenthood as a hotbed of bigots is a more recent development. Hunter, an enthusiastic purveyor of wrongheaded conspiracy theories (he says President Obama is “an Arab”), insisted that famed family planning advocate Margaret Sanger started her birth control campaign in order “to wipe out the black race.”

Hunter and his followers have hoisted their flag on a data point they believe points to their hidden truth: the abortion rate for black American women is almost five times that for white women, according to the Alan Guttmacher Institute, a non-profit that advocates for reproductive health.  About 37 percent of abortions are obtained by black women, although they account for less than seven percent of the population.

A conspiracy? Genocide? A secret plan hiding in plain sight?

Hardly. The higher abortion rate among black women is a logical — if desperate — answer to an unplanned pregnancy and meager resources. Since black women tend to be poorer than white women, they are less likely to have the benefit of regular health care and the contraceptive information and services it confers. Trapped in meager circumstances, many black women who find themselves facing an unplanned pregnancy choose abortion.

Oddly, the most vociferous critics of Planned Parenthood are also the least likely to support plans and proposals that might actually lower the abortion rate — among black women as well as among white and brown women. Take contraceptive use, which (you might be surprised to know) Planned Parenthood vigorously supports. Contraception accounts for about 35 percent of its services; abortion only about three percent.

If birth control pills and devices were cheaper and more widely available, more women would use them. Unplanned pregnancies would drop. The abortion rate would decline. But conservatives like Hunter have no use for family planning, period.

And what if more poor black women chose not to terminate their pregnancies? What if more desperate women without health insurance or decent housing or reliable employment decided to rely on the tender mercies of the social safety net for their newborns? Would they find conservatives in Congress rushing to shore up funding for housing assistance, food subsidies and health care for the indigent?

Well, this is where things get really strange: the more vociferous a critic of reproductive rights, the less likely the politician is to support Head Start or Medicaid or WIC, which provides milk and other nutritional assistance to poor pregnant women. They love those fetuses in utero. After that, not so much.

It’s a strange love, to say the least.

216 comments Add your comment

WOODSTOCK MIKE

April 13th, 2011
3:24 pm

@iRun

I understand what you are saying, however, I wanted to be clear about the argument. The argument is very simple. The govt is funding a company that performs probably the most controversial medical procedure there is. If a tax payer wants to voice their opinion about not wanting their money to go towards a company that performs abortions I have no problem with that.

It is common knowledge that Planned Parenthood claims they do not use tax dollars for their abortion business. But, lets be realistic about it, how can anyone be sure that the equipment that is used, the doctors who are paid, anything that is involved in the abortion procedures are not tied to govt funding. How can you be sure of that??

iRun

April 13th, 2011
3:25 pm

BTW, Planned Parenthood account for 0.008% of the entire Federal Budget. 0.008% means that out of each dollar PP gets $1*(0.008/100) = $0.00008

Out of my taxable income, 0.008% is about $15/year.

I think I will start sending $10/mo to Planned Parenthood….

WOODSTOCK MIKE

April 13th, 2011
3:28 pm

@iRun

So did you take a look at how much $15/yr is from every tax paying American? What is that number?

Blog Goddess

April 13th, 2011
3:31 pm

Trapped in meager circumstances, many black women who find themselves facing an unplanned pregnancy choose abortion.

And I don’t blame them. If you can barely feed yourself, how are you going to feed someone else?

iRun

April 13th, 2011
3:33 pm

W Mike,

I work in Public Health. There is really strict accountability about where those $ go. Believe me…if PP was spending any of those tax dollars on abortions it would come to light.

Consider this, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a huge supporter of PP. The money they provide is earmarked against use for abortion services. Do you really think B&MG Foundation isn’t able to track that?

On another note, Warren Buffett’s foundations that supports PP specifically provides funds for abortion services.

I am not arguing with you that PP provides a socially controversial yet legal service. So do private doctors. So do churches, for that matter. But, it’s a legal service and it’s an unfortunately necessary one. Personally? I wouldn’t have an abortion unless it was pretty dire. I wouldn’t even have an abortion in the case of rape so long as the fetus or myself were in no danger.

But its easy for me to say that. (1) I am affluent and can afford another child from birth to launch, and (2) I can’t have any more children…non working parts (I’m still of child bearing age but my plumbing “rusted out”, so to speak).

I wouldn’t dream of telling anyone else what to do. This is super private, between a woman and her doctor and her spouse/partner, if she feels safe including him/her.

Get Real

April 13th, 2011
3:35 pm

Maybe if they didn’t get welfare for having kids they wouldn’t be so ready lie around and get pregnant and pop them out every year or so! Also, if they didn’t start having sex before hitting their teens and have responsible parents if they knew who their daddy was would go a long way in helping. The thugs wearing their pants to the ground, gangs, etc, etc contribute a lot to this mentality, also.

iRun

April 13th, 2011
3:36 pm

Mike, you would need to apply it to your taxable income, which is different than mine. My taxable income approaches 200K a year.

For an American making $60,000/year of TAXABLE income that 0.008% is ~ $5/year.

For an American making a taxable income of $40,000/year it’s about $3/year.

OMG...Really

April 13th, 2011
3:37 pm

Gerald,

Minor point but you seem to spend a lot of time calling people out for commenting about things of which you claim they have no knowledge. I’d like to point something out to you based on your snarky little comment about Obama’s law review experience. Anyone who has actually been to law school (GSU, Law Review 2000-2001) will tell you that you have to work very very hard to get on law review and once there you are lucky if you get one sole authored article published. Especially as editor where your attention is focused in so many different directions.

And for the record I do take exception to your contention that one MUST see the Bible as consistently presenting the same view of God, man, and their standing with regards to each other. While your faith may allow you to make this assumption those people who do not share your faith are not as quick to overlook the glaring examples of God’s savagery in some points and his overwhelming love of man in others. The same God who gave the commandment not to kill told the wandering Israelites to slaughter other races unmercifully. One only has to read the stories of Gideon in Judges or the slaughter of the Bethshemesh in I Samuel to see examples of the ruthless, murderous nature of God. I will grant you that the ruthless murderous nature is but one part of the nature of God, but it is reality that you can’t sweep aside because it doesn’t fit your political philosophy.

iRun

April 13th, 2011
3:38 pm

BTW, not meaning to imply that churches provide abortions! Just socially controversial legal services while being government subsidized….

Big D

April 13th, 2011
3:42 pm

Why don’t we just get the Fed’s to pay for IDIOT insurance for people who did not have the presence of mind to know THIS ACT WILL GET YOUR DUMB AZZ PREGNANT.
I don’t care how or why just as long as you LIBERALS don’t take my money and make it MY BUSINESS.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

April 13th, 2011
3:46 pm

@iRun

Wow, that sure is a nice salary for govt work. You make almost as much a the president!! What is your position in Public Health??

iRun

April 13th, 2011
3:46 pm

I have an idea…no matter your marital status you must pay to have sex. Every time. Every person. You will be required to pay into the Sex Insurance System.

Maybe if we charge for it we can control the sexual activity of human beings.

*rolleyes*

OMG...Really

April 13th, 2011
3:46 pm

carlosgvv,

To step to the other side of the argument it is not fair for you to ask this question:
“please furnish me with Book, chapter and verse in the New Testament where abortion is mentioned by NAME.”

Those who have faith, if I may be allowed to defend them for a moment, who say that the words of Jesus, when he set forth the second greatest commandment, can be rightfully interpreted to disallow abortion. Many of those with faith consider abortion to be the murder of a human being, which clearly violates the above commandment to “Love your neighbor as yourself.” Just because the word “abortion” does not appear in the Bible does not mean that people of faith can not interpret the Bible to legitimately support their position.

I may agree with your position as pro-life but I believe it is important to exercise intellectual honesty in debate.

JB

April 13th, 2011
3:48 pm

This guy dan is the most lost person on here today. It’s OK if he doesn’t believe, but to hate is a different story….Maybe hate is to strong….belittle may be better. It’s non of my business what he believes, but to mock, belittle those of us who do, is little man syndrome.

OMG...Really

April 13th, 2011
3:50 pm

iRun,

As a single man I pay regularly into the Sex Insurance System. I just pay my premiums to restaurants and drinking establishments. I love your proposals. End the welfare system of free sex to the married.

Wait I was married and I wouldn’t have had to pay much then, maybe about 6 premiums a year. Crap, I guess it all balances out.

iRun

April 13th, 2011
3:51 pm

Mike,

My salary as a government employee is fair for my professional level of education and experience. My taxable income approaching 200K reflects my husband’s income and the income we have from rental property. My salary is only about a third, or so, of our total taxable income.

And, in case you’re wondering, I am off today (sick child!) so I am not using government time or resources to post on this forum.

If you look for me on these forums I am not very active because when I AM at work I either don’t have access to these websites or, and mostly, I don’t have TIME.

However, this issue of Planned Parenthood is important to me because I see first-hand evidence how family planning services (excluding abortion because no government funded research includes it) reduces the number of unplanned pregnancies, unwanted children, and, importantly, the number of children born with lifelong diseases like HIV.

It’s not a small deal.

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 13th, 2011
3:52 pm

carlos…he can’t. Its his interpretation of a book written by men and edited by men. Might as well as for proof of God…he’ll tap dance and bluster, but there is no proof.

WOODSTOCK MIKE

April 13th, 2011
3:52 pm

@iRun

LOL, I was joking with you!! I respect your opinions and the way you communicate your ideas. Wish everyone could communicate like you do…

oldguy

April 13th, 2011
3:53 pm

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Gerald

April 13th, 2011
3:53 pm

carlosgv:

Abortion by name? Not given. However, the Old Testament law does declare strict punishments for those who cause – whether by purpose or accident – the death of an unborn child. See Exodus chapter 21 for example. So, while the term is not there, the concept most definitely is.

Next?

TruthBe

April 13th, 2011
3:54 pm

Good point Kathryn. Because most of the “Black Women’s” abortions are paid for by the tax players in one form or another. Tucker is a racist now and always has been.

iRun

April 13th, 2011
3:54 pm

OMG…Really,

I guess it’s a strange balance…single means more sex and paying into The System. Married means less sex and more money.

At least for you. Not for me…heheheheheheheh. I likey my husband…and there’s no risk of babies anymore so time for FUN! Pay into The System.

;)

Seamus

April 13th, 2011
3:58 pm

@Jethro, 1. 02p, et al.

Question one: Weren’t you the “Mensa” fellow on Amos and Andy?
Question two: Perhaps you should go back to school and take biology again. I (and millions of others) think – but, mind you, are not sure -that it “takes two to tango.” Other than the Virgin Mary, can you site how many women have gotten pregnant all by their lonesomes (pun intended)? Solve that riddle and no one (those pesky and nasty men) will “have a right to tell women what to do with their bodies.”

Keep Up the Good Fight!

April 13th, 2011
4:00 pm

“the concept” is there…… translation: our interpretation of man’s words from the past to the current world. your mileage may vary.

iRun

April 13th, 2011
4:00 pm

Mke, I appreciate your friendliness.

I enjoy these discussions but I don’t like for them to get nasty.

Though my earlier post about a permanent underclass reflects a darker cynical side to my thinking that I occasionally indulge in. Not too often because otherwise I’d feel hopeless and depressed.

I gotta go for the day…sick child is calling for some popsicles…

0311/0317 -1811/1801

April 13th, 2011
4:02 pm

“SLAVERY WAS BLACK FREE LABOR? NONSENSE OF COURSE”

jt

April 13th, 2011
4:06 pm

Genocide as per MerriumWebster———

: the attempt or act of deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group .

Considering the above stated statistics, an argument could be made to that effect.
I am glad that at least some African Americans are trying to stop it…..instead of encouraging the practice by voting democrat.
And to be fair, Republicans, when controlling the house AND Senate, never tried to defund PP . In fact PP’s funding only increased.It is only a sick political wedge issue.NO taxpayer money should be involved.

Gerald

April 13th, 2011
4:06 pm

OMG…Really:

Regarding Obama, you did not contradict anything that I said. Second, Obama’s lack of signed editorials on the law review has been a topic of much discussion, and is most definitely NOT common practice for that publication, something that the Harvard folks – despite their affection for Obama – were indeed forced to admit.

“While your faith may allow you to make this assumption those people who do not share your faith are not as quick to overlook the glaring examples of God’s savagery in some points and his overwhelming love of man in others.”

Wrong. This is why. If you will investigate the Bible in several points, especially Romans, the gospel of John, and Genesis 6, you will encounter the concept “original sin.” This means that all humankind is sinful. Because of this, God is perfectly justified in killing ALL MEN. By doing so, far from being savage, God is giving men what men deserve, because the Bible makes it clear that the punishment of sin is death (Ezekiel 18:20, Genesis 2:17). It is because God is loving and merciful that ANY are permitted to live AT ALL. So, from the perspective of the Bible, God is no more savage for punishing sinful men with death than is the state for executing mass murderers and serial killers like Timothy McVeigh or Ted Bundy.

The Bible is 100% crystal clear and consistent on this fact. The only issue is that men who read the Bible deny what the text plainly says, starting with liberals who deny the existence of original sin (the crowd who claims that humanity is basically good and can be improved by government and with education and psychology … how’s that working out … I thought so).

Ragnar Danneskjöld

April 13th, 2011
4:10 pm

Dear OMG @ 3:37, you err: “Anyone who has actually been to law school (GSU, Law Review 2000-2001) will tell you that you have to work very very hard to get on law review…” Actually it is pretty easy – :work: is not an issue at all- although there is a luck element.

carlosgvv

April 13th, 2011
4:10 pm

OMG..really

It most certainly is fair for me to ask that question since Jesus does mention a number of sins by name. If you really believe that Jesus is the Messiah then you must conclude he knew what abortion was and decided not to mention it. Read the last verses in Revelation and you will find a strict commandment to not either add or take away from the Word. Of course, you can always pray to God and mention to Him that Jesus must have just forgotten to mention abortion and you, in your wisdom, have decided to correct that error.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

April 13th, 2011
4:10 pm

Also, dear OMG, “very” is not an adjective. Doubling it does not add emphasis.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

April 13th, 2011
4:11 pm

Nor is it an adverb.

carlosgvv

April 13th, 2011
4:12 pm

Gerald

If you were really a Bible expert, you would know that Christians are bound only by the New Testament and are not required to follow the Old Testament, as Jews are.

What Goes Around Comes Around

April 13th, 2011
4:16 pm

I agree Republicans ARE tireless opponents of reproductive rights. What they need to be focusing on is:

CREATING JOBS CREATING JOBS CREATING JOBS CREATING JOBS.

Republicans where are the jobs you promised??????????

jocko

April 13th, 2011
4:17 pm

iRun,
Where else would PPA get the money to do what they do but taxes and some small contributions from private parties? Audit the PPA and determine how they spend federal grants. If they are breaking the law, then shut them down! Most of the other services they provide are not a problem for most of us. It has been repeatedly found that they do use tax grants to provide an average of 330,000+ abortions a year.

c

April 13th, 2011
4:20 pm

Abortion is murder! If a woman wants to be a murderer, let her kill her babies!

Scooter (The Original)

April 13th, 2011
4:20 pm

The origins of Planned Parenthood are firmly rooted in Margaret Sanger’s eugenic approach to societal engineering.

OMG...Really

April 13th, 2011
4:26 pm

Ragnar, while things may have been different at Harvard it took work to make it to Law Review at GSU. Either you graded on (which damn sure took work) or you have a sufficient GPA to be able to write your way on. Either way luck had nothing to do with it.

Gerald,

You hit on my point exactly. One has to share your faith and belief in original sin in order to see things your way. The absence of such faith turns what you see as the divine right of God to kill those he wishes into genocidal behavior. What were the sins of those slaughtered by Gideon? They didn’t share the faith of the Israelites. That was all there was to it. The nations exterminated by Israel in the OT stood in the way on the march to the promised land. They committed no crime other than the fact that they didn’t share their faith in Jehovah so they were put to the sword.

And believe it or not there are many conservative people who do not share your faith and many liberal people who do. So to say that a rejection of the OT concept of original sin is a characteristic liberal mindset is an oversimplification at best and an unfounded stereotype at worst.

OMG...Really

April 13th, 2011
4:28 pm

Ragnar,

Thanks for the grammar lesson. This is blog ding dong. I’m not going back and editing, I’m just James Joyce-ing here.

Geez, what a pompous ass you must be.

Seamus

April 13th, 2011
4:29 pm

@IRun: I quote you from your entry as follows…

One last time…Planned Parenthood does not use ANY tax dollars to provide abortion services. None. Nada. Zero.

Hmmm… Let’s see. Assuming the European Union, the Arabs or Pacific Islanders are providing funding for PP and not the tax payer through taxes paid into the gummint (or, for the elitists that think everything outside NY and LA is weeds and rednecks), I am going to go out on a limb and state that you are either brain-dead or severely lacking in your ability to put 2 + 2 together and get 4. It’s OUR TAX DOLLARS THAT FUND Planned Parenthood. So, even a first grader can get that: OUR TAX dollars fund Planned Parenthood murders (or abortions if you want to resort to euphemisms.
What say you to that?

sambo

April 13th, 2011
4:30 pm

Abortion is murder, Abortion doctors are murders, people who have abortions are murderers and the deadbeats who don’t take responsibility for their actions are accessory.

Never moral advice from a pro-abortionist, they are hypocrites

Annie

April 13th, 2011
4:32 pm

Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood’s founder, was a well know eugenicist. Her desire was to rid society of the unfit and the less desirables, namely the poor (who are are also in many cases African American). She was also a racist, BTW. That said, why is it such a crime to be poor? Should a baby be aborted just because it is poor? Should baby be aborted because it is unwanted? Why should the value of a human life depend on the quality of life that a child will have? Does an unborn child not have intrinsic value? This is a debate that our country needs to engage in. The investigations of the abortion industry in the last 4 years by Liveaction.org has propelled that debate into the forefront. Let’s make it honest and open one.

markie mark

April 13th, 2011
4:45 pm

“I wouldn’t dream of telling anyone else what to do. This is super private, between a woman and her doctor and her spouse/partner, if she feels safe including him/her.”

@iRun – and this is the part of the conversation that I totally dont understand….you did the most private, intimate thing you can do with another human being. And then they dont have the right to be involved in the choice? What does that say about the emotional intelligence of that female human being? pretty poor, I would say.

Seamus

April 13th, 2011
4:46 pm

OMG!!!
I just read an article on the Urinal-Constipation’s online paper (which you are reading) that, according to the AP, says the Leftist’s Savior is going to trim the deficit by 4Trillion in 12 years by levying taxes on the “rich” (whomever fits that description). I get, can’t beat ‘em so tax the hell out of them; make ‘em not rich but poor so they can join the other “poor” in this country and, then perhaps, there will be no one left to ‘pay the freight.’ That’s what’s soooo great about the Socialist Leftie PROGRESSIVES (OOPS, I meant REGRESSIVES).

Bob

April 13th, 2011
4:48 pm

Alright!! A person’s body belongs to that person and the government has no say in what they do with it. I for one am happy to hear that prostitution is now legal because the government has no say in what someone does with their body. I can also sell a kidney. This is great.

Joe Mama

April 13th, 2011
4:48 pm

gerald — “starting with liberals who deny the existence of original sin”

It’s not just liberals. There are conservative atheists, too. And when Jim Rob finds them on Free Republic, he launches a purge and kicks them all off. I know because it happened to me at least twice.

OMG...Really

April 13th, 2011
4:51 pm

Seamus,

Don’t use my name in vain. So sayeth OMG….Really.

Joe Mama

April 13th, 2011
4:51 pm

sambo — “people who have abortions are murderers”

Uh huh. So when my wife had an ectopic pregnancy 12 years ago, you’d apparently have counseled me to let her die in agony rather than terminate the pregnancy (the fetus would have died in either case).

How NOBLE of you to imply that others should die for your principles. :(

Kamchak

April 13th, 2011
4:58 pm

Abortion is murder…

This crap still?

<a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/murder"mur·der
noun \ˈmər-dər\
Definition of MURDER
1
: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought
2
a : something very difficult or dangerous b : something outrageous or blameworthy

“Murder” is a criminal act.

Abortion is a legal procedure and cannot, by definition, be “murder.”

Blue

April 13th, 2011
4:58 pm

You people on BOTH sides arguing in the ‘old testament’ are ludicrous. Even the all-knowing CT has referenced old testament rituals, etc, that were part of OLD LAW. When the new covenant was made…oh never mind, you will just come back with some smarmy,know-it-all comments.