Of course, Gov. Deal is backing down on illegal hiring

Don’t tell me you’re surprised that Gov. Nathan Deal is having second thoughts about cracking down on businesses that hire illegally. I’m certainly not.

Deal is playing the very same game that Georgia’s elected officials have played for years — excoriating illegal immigrants on the campaign trail but refusing to pass tough laws that would force employers to hire legally.

Here’s the dirty little secret that everybody knows but no one wants to admit: some Georgia industries, including agriculture, are utterly dependent on illegal labor. No matter how much farmers are willing to pay, few Americans are going to take on the back-breaking, bone-wearying miserable labor of picking peaches or Vidalia onions. Georgia needs those undocumented workers.

As I wrote in a column last year:

During the go-go ‘90s, construction managers, agricultural concerns and carpet manufacturers demanded the cheap, pliant labor that illegal immigrants were happy to provide.

In 1998, the then-Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) conducted raids on Vidalia onion fields at the beginning of the harvest season. Crews scattered, and the harvest was stalled. Farmers freaked and called their congressmen.

Eight members of Congress, including Republicans Saxby Chambliss (then in the House) and Jack Kingston and Democrat Sanford Bishop, signed a letter to then-Attorney General Janet Reno complaining about the raid and a “lack of regard for farmers.” The INS backed down.

During campaigns, Republican elected officials play to their constituents with tough talk about guarding the border and cracking down on illegal immigrants. But when they take office, their business allies object, and they back down.

There is nothing new about this, folks.

114 comments Add your comment

Kamchak

February 28th, 2011
4:42 pm

WHAT PART OF HIRING IAs IS ILLEGAL DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND?

B Cosby

February 28th, 2011
4:48 pm

CT, what do you care of what Gov. Deal does or does not do? Did you vote in Georgia? You do not live in Georgia, therefore, you have no say!! Illegal is Illegal.

Peadawg

February 28th, 2011
4:54 pm

Don’t tell me you’re surprised that Cynthia complains if someone tries to crackdown on illegal immigration and she also complains if someone doesn’t. I’m certainly not.

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February 28th, 2011
4:58 pm

Hell yeah, let’s call them on it.

What’s up with this Nathan, must we sic the Tea Party on you?

Round em all up, put em on the bus, send em back to whence they came from.

And start with the AJC delivery army, just suggesting…

Kamchak

February 28th, 2011
5:05 pm

What’s up with this Nathan, must we sic the Tea Party on you?

The very same teabaggers that are financed by big business — is that what you’re trying to say?

The Onion Field

February 28th, 2011
5:07 pm

One of the rare days when I agree with every word you wrote Cynthia. Chambliss is the poster child for the rest of those lying hypocrite Republican politicians who aren’t about to do anything that dings their contributors. Just one of several reasons I and a few million others backed away from the GOP.

hobby

February 28th, 2011
5:07 pm

Georgia( Dems) needs those undocumented workers.(Voters)

Sean

February 28th, 2011
5:08 pm

It a no brainer… Businesses need to check the immigration status of their employees. Its not hard to do.

This would stop illegal immigration right away.

Richard

February 28th, 2011
5:17 pm

Raise you hand if you could afford your current house/apartment if the cost of building it increased by the workers being citizens rather than illegals.

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February 28th, 2011
5:21 pm

Upchuk cannot afford it’s own yard boy or house slave, so it whines and moans at….”business.”

Herman Cain

February 28th, 2011
5:27 pm

What a joke. She sings the praises of the parasites draining our economy and then screams when people don’t do what she didn’t want them to do to start with.

Kamchak

February 28th, 2011
5:29 pm

Poor Andy.

He doesn’t realize that all the teabagging that’s going on involves the Koch Bros.

Eeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwww.

Just sayin’.

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February 28th, 2011
5:41 pm

Did I miss something on the Koch Bros, is this the best boogeyman the libs can come up with?

Pretty weak, just sayin…

some guy

February 28th, 2011
5:45 pm

Typical woman: Damned if you do, damned if you don’t!

Thulsa Doom

February 28th, 2011
5:55 pm

I’m actually in agreement with Cynthia on this one. This is cowardly on Deal’s part.

Oh but is Kamchump actually upset over illegals not being rounded up? He looks at illegals as another food stamp voting bloc to help keep the Dems in power. If them Dems can just make enough people dependent on the gubment to keep voting themselves in.

Thulsa Doom

February 28th, 2011
5:57 pm

I report,

They wore out talk radio, Palin, and Bush as boogeymen. They always got to come up with a new enemy. Kind of like Orwell in 1984. Having new boogeymen always gives them fresh red meat to thow at their sheeple like kamchump.

casual observer

February 28th, 2011
6:14 pm

Illegals just want an “Obama Happy Meal” like many in America.

A once proud nation has become a welfare state. Why is there even be an Illegal problem in our country in the first place? Think about it. The hardworking American taxpayer carrries most of the world. Afghanistan, Mexico, Iraq just to name a few. And sadly the dependant class in our own country that are along for the free ride. Obama’s Happy Meal.

Kamchak

February 28th, 2011
6:18 pm

Why is there even be[sic] an Illegal problem in our country in the first place?

St Ronnie of the Ray-Gun’s 1986 amnesty.

Duh.

james

February 28th, 2011
6:19 pm

Richard- one of the dumbest questions ever asked. Absolutely I and otherscould and would. The illegal economy including illegal immigrants, the drug trade, gambling trade, etc. costs the economy billions of dollars a year. It is without a doubt that asset creation done with full transperancy as to quality and cost will out perform the antithesis over even short time frames. Illegal immigration puts strain on our economy, enables the mess in Mexico to continue, and perhaps most importantly is not the correct answer for the illegals themselves.

Kamchak

February 28th, 2011
6:31 pm

Richard- one of the dumbest questions ever asked.

Richard

February 28th, 2011
5:17 pm

Raise you hand if you could afford your current house/apartment if the cost of building it increased by the workers being citizens rather than illegals.

Maybe it’s just me, but I didn’t see a question being asked there.

The lack of an interrogative was my first clue.

Fred

February 28th, 2011
6:51 pm

“Here’s the dirty little secret that everybody knows but no one wants to admit: some Georgia industries, including agriculture, are utterly dependent on illegal labor.”

I read and hear such statements all the time, not just concerning Georgia, but concerning the entire country. However, no one ever says what the industries other than agriculture are. They always just state that agriculture is one of them, and go no further. Why not? Do other such industries exist? And if they do not exist, as I suspect, then make special arrangements for the small percentage of undocumented workers who work in agriculture, and seriously go after other undocumented workers and the greedy employers who hire them.

james

February 28th, 2011
6:57 pm

Kam- yes, it is just you or maybe I could respond in a similar smart ass way and say “Gee Richard- how does one raise a hand on a blog?”

Kamchak

February 28th, 2011
7:02 pm

…how does one raise a hand on a blog?”

Now here we have an example of a question. Notice the use of the interrogative “how”.

james

February 28th, 2011
7:07 pm

Thanks Kam. Or you could have used a couple of brain cells and realized that the blogger was indeed seeking written responses unless he himself did not realize he was on a blog- ie the ol’ figuratively speaking thing.

Vinny

February 28th, 2011
7:13 pm

Deport all criminal illegal aliens NOW!!! They are nothing but a drain on our economy and a menace to our safety!!

Drew

February 28th, 2011
7:18 pm

The Obama Administration deported a record number of undocumented immigrants in 2009 and 2010 and levied millions in fines on their employers. Yet the far right persists in its delusion that he has been unusually tolerant of them.

Meanwhile, they worship the Republicans who hate immigrants as much as they do, regardless of whether they do anything to reduce the number of undocumented immigrants in the United States.

Is it any wonder that Nathan Deal et. al. have decided that they needn’t do anything with respect to immigration except indulge their hateful fantasies by trashing “illegals” in their speeches?

Keep up the good fight!

February 28th, 2011
7:24 pm

The difference seems to be Republicans talk a “big game” but they count on their supporters not figuring out that they support businesses hiring “illegals”. The only thing Republicans will do is try to create a permanent “illegal class” of workers who corporations freely employ without risk on them. The only risk will be on the workers and the corporations will continue to encourage the free flow of unlawful immigrants into the country.

The Dems freely acknowledge there is an issue and want to try to solve it through steps like the Dream Act and a legitimate path to citizenship together with real actions against corporations who violate the law. These actions properly implemented would work toward a real solution recognizing the political and workforce reality and setting up the disincentives to continue a stream of unleawful immigrants into this country.

but of course, the 30 second talking point is much easier for the Republican guppies to swallow without real thought.

Kamchak

February 28th, 2011
7:38 pm

I see that we now have a couple of round ‘em up and ship ‘em backers.

How much are you willing to spend, on a per head basis, to accomplish this task keeping in mind that according to the WSJ the estimate is 11.2 million undocumented immigrants live in the U.S.

Independent

February 28th, 2011
7:40 pm

Of course, the smart thing would be to compromise, to establish a path to legality for the illegal workers who are already here. It could demand that they pass a criminal background check, demonstrate fluency in English, and pay a significant fine. Couple this with a good system of checking for illegal status and you can solve most of the illegal immigration problem. Of course, being the right thing to do means it will never be done.

Paddy O

February 28th, 2011
7:41 pm

we are playing a little loose. undocumentedworkers? Most of the the folks who work the fields CAN obtain a temporary work visa as a seasonal worker. So, why don’t they? Why don’t the farmers provide assistance to guarantee that their laborers strive to comply with the law?

Paddy O

February 28th, 2011
7:42 pm

indy – i concur – we want them/need them here, they want/need to be here – so, come up with a good system for legally allowing them to come – either as legal transient migrant workers or have a path to citizenship.

Paddy O

February 28th, 2011
7:46 pm

dem presidential admins typically find a whole lot wrong with industry that was NOTdiscovered during a repub admin. sad thing, it usually does not affect much, just a simple violation of a previously incognito gov’t reg. but, the dems use it to gin up their base – PROBLEM – gotta get government SOLVING it.

ODDOWL

February 28th, 2011
7:55 pm

The Georgia State legislation should pass a law that will force Georgia Businesses that hire illegal Immigrants to pay them a livable wage of at lest $10.00 an hour. Most of the farm work is stoop labor and other back breaking miserable work.

willie lynch

February 28th, 2011
8:05 pm

That’s right attack CT, deny the truth. Typical.

B Cosby

February 28th, 2011
8:10 pm

Have I been banned?

B Cosby

February 28th, 2011
8:11 pm

B Cosby

February 28th, 2011
8:15 pm

On another note, it seems that besides being a murderer, Ted Kennedy, the late great poster child of the democratic party also enjoyed the brothels. Let’s waste more tax dollars and build a tribute to outstanding man!!

Thulsa Doom

February 28th, 2011
8:30 pm

Keep up the sorry fight, Here’s some facts from the CBO. The math is simple enough that even you can understand it ma’am. BWAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

The jobs that were created and saved by the economic stimulus legislation that President Barack Obama signed in February 2009 cost at least $228,055 each, according to new data from the Congressional Budget Office.

In a report released on Wednesday, the CBO said it now estimates the stimulus bill costs $821 billion, up from its original estimate of $787 billion.

The CBO also estimated that in the fourth quarter of 2010, between 1.3 and 3.5 million people were employed who would not have a job if the stimulus had not been enacted.

The CBO also estimated that between 1.4 and 3.6 million were employed as a result of the stimulus bill during the third quarter of 2010.

The figures take into account not only the new jobs believed to have been created, but also the existing jobs that were saved that would otherwise have been lost.

So the $821 billion cost of the stimulus, divided by the maximum of 3.6 million jobs the CBO believes were saved or created, equals $228,055 for each job, according to CNS News.

Taking the 1.4 million figure for jobs created or saved means each job cost $586,428.

Footnote: When President Obama signed the stimulus bill, the national unemployment rate was 8.2 percent. In January 2011, it was 9 percent.

Kamchak

February 28th, 2011
8:31 pm

Let’s waste more tax dollars and build a tribute to outstanding man!!

Of course, and while we’re at it we can build a Depend® museum for David “The Diaper Boy” Vitter
A public bathroom stall exhibit for Larry “The Toe Tapper” Craig
An extra-marital exhibit for John “I Did My Best Friends Wife” Ensign

Thulsa Doom

February 28th, 2011
8:33 pm

The tweedle brothers. I have issued a new proclamation for the 2 most loony liberals out there. Going forward one shalt now be known as tweedledee and the other as tweedledumb

KAMCHAK = TWEEDLEDEE

KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT = TWEEDLEDUMB

Titles most befitting these 2 clowns.

Keep up the good fight!

February 28th, 2011
8:38 pm

Well Thussy the Dumb…I guess again since you failed to post one single link, you just dont have the support for your claims. But if I understand your math, when you build a $30 million bridge and 30 people are employed, each job costs $1 million and the bridge is free. What a stupid laughable claim as a viable metric. Do you enjoy being so foolish?

Kamchak

February 28th, 2011
8:43 pm

Spamming the blogs with duplicate posts just to make a point so lame it needs a Hoveround = desperate.

Keep up the good fight!

February 28th, 2011
8:48 pm

Kam…someone is just craving our attention. You’re right. A desperate child. Lame does not even begin to describe the Dumb puppet.

Thulsa Doom

February 28th, 2011
8:48 pm

keep up, Uh, I mean tweedledumb,

Is your google broken? Just google the CBO report from last Thursday. You should know that often when we post links that it can go through moderation for several hours.

Tweedledumb, Nice try at logic with the bridge example. Difference is that with the bridge we have something tangible to show for the project. What do we have to show for the stimulus? Other than mountains of debt what do we really have to show for it? Cash for clunkers? Turtle paths? You so funny. You vay wee funny mon.

Let me know about all the bridges, green energy wind farms and infrastructure, highways, schools, and various other projects that were worth almost a trillion dollars.

Have at it tweedledumb. Start listing all the various, wonderful infastructure and projects that were built for nearly a trillin. I got all night to be wowed by them.

Thulsa Doom

February 28th, 2011
8:51 pm

Kamchak aka tweedledee,

Lame? Speaking of lame you are about as lame as a 1 legged 15 yr old arthritic dog. BWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWA

Jack

February 28th, 2011
8:51 pm

It’s a comfort to know that Tucker can relate to the back-breaking, bone-wearying miserable labor of picking peaches or Vidalia onions.

Thulsa Doom

February 28th, 2011
8:54 pm

Darwin wrote the origin of species and then
Isamov or sagan wrote origins of the universe
Then kam aka tweedledee wrote his autobiography origins of stupid.

Thulsa Doom

February 28th, 2011
8:56 pm

keep up the good fight aka TWEEDLEDUMB and his self-defining, self-realized, self-actualization definition of dumb.

— adj
1. lacking the power to speak, either because of defects in the vocal organs or because of hereditary deafness
2. lacking the power of human speech: dumb animals
3. temporarily lacking or bereft of the power to speak: struck dumb
4. refraining from speech; uncommunicative
5. producing no sound; silent: a dumb piano
6. made, done, or performed without speech

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February 28th, 2011
8:59 pm

This is the kind of thing the goony left whines at the Koch Bros. for noticing-

Plenty of compelling examples indicate just the opposite. When Canada recently reduced its federal spending to 11.3% of GDP from 17.5% eight years earlier, the economy rebounded and unemployment dropped. By comparison, our federal spending is 25% of GDP.

We should be ashamed.

Kamchak

February 28th, 2011
9:00 pm

Keep

It’s gone way past craving and entered into the obsessive/compulsive territory.

Truly Pavlovian.