Calling Herman Cain a “minstrel” is out of bounds
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A black writer who posts under the name Chauncey DeVega has written a vicious, sophomoric and unfair takedown of black Atlanta businessman Herman Cain, calling him a “minstrel for CPAC.” (h/t Dave Wiegal)
Instead, Herman Cain’s shtick is a version of race minstrelsy where he performs “authentic negritude” as wish fulfillment for White Conservative fantasies. Like the fountain at Lourdes, Cain in his designated role as black Conservative mascot, absolves the White racial reactionaries at CPAC of their sins. This is a refined performance that Black Conservatives have perfected over many decades and centuries of practice. . .
In the money shot, Cain gives the obligatory “black folks who are not Republicans are on the plantation” speech to the joyous applause of his White benefactors. And he doubles down by legitimating any opposition to President Barack Obama as virtuous and patriotic regardless of the bigoted well-springs from which it may flow.
I find that kind of criticism of black conservatives deeply offensive because it presumes that they are not entitled to think differently. Isn’t that the essence of racism — the notion that all black folk must think and act alike? Don’t racists make that very assumption?
There are very few things that Cain and I agree about. He has adopted the most rightwing views of the current Republican party, including the deluded notion that U.S. currency should be based on the gold standard. He is dead wrong about the Affordable Health Care Act, which he compares to health care in Great Britain or Canada. It has little in common with the health care systems of those countries. He believes in a fantasy called the FAir Tax.
But black men and women gave their lives in the civil rights movement so black folk like Herman Cain come applaud those rightwing principles if they chose. He is a wealthy businessman — and the more wealthy black businessfolk there are, the more black Republicans there are likely to be.
Besides, Cain was no more a ‘minstrel” than any of the other speakers who came before a rightwing audience trying to tell them what they wanted to hear.
On Wednesday, I wrote about Cain’s flirtation with a presidential campaign:
WASHINGTON — Herman Cain received no ringing endorsement for a presidential bid here last week, when he spoke at the Conservative Political Action Conference, an annual gathering of hyper-conservatives. In the ritual straw poll of delegates, Cain received only two percent of the vote — clustered near the bottom of a list of 15 possible contenders.
That’s not the only suggestion that conservative activists would greet a Cain presidential bid — should he decide to run — as a wealthy man’s folly. At National Review Online, a must-read for inside-the-Beltway conservatives, writer Jonah Goldberg dismissed Cain’s chances in December. “. . .it’s hard to imagine him amounting to more than an exciting also-ran,” Goldberg wrote.
Indeed, Cain himself is given to joking about his prospects. A black businessman, radio talk show host and motivational speaker, he likes to refer to himself as “a dark horse.” He’s never held elective office; he came in a distant second to Johnny Isakson in a 2004 bid for the GOP Senate nomination.
Still, Cain, an Atlanta native and Morehouse grad, has spent a long career challenging the odds. He says that his Web site, set up for his presidential campaign exploratory committee, has drawn volunteers in the tens of thousands. Affluent donors are also ready to support him, he told me last week.
As for CPAC, Cain has at least moved up a bit in the pecking order. Last year, he said, he was given an 8 a.m. speaking slot, when very few delegates filled chairs in the main ballroom. On Friday, he had a 4 p.m. speaking slot and received, at a few points, enthusiastic applause.
But he used his time to give a very un-candidate-like speech — full of slogans and platitudes but lacking substance. It was the very opposite of that given by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, whose speech laid out substantive points of policy — he would replace the Environmental Protection Agency, for example, with an “environmental solutions agency,” he said — as well as the standard Obama-bashing rhetoric.
Still, as Cain would likely point out, Gingrich, who has a national profile, didn’t do much better with the delegates, polling only 5 percent. In an e-mail, a Cain spokesman said: “Mr. Cain came out ahead of other potential contenders such as Haley Barbour, John Thune and Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum, all seasoned Republican leaders.”
So, will Cain run? A spokesman said he is “a few months” away from making an announcement. There’s no hurry since none of the 15 potential candidates in the straw poll has formally declared a candidacy.
If he launches a bid, he will have to give up the considerable income he draws from the corporate boards on which he serves: Hallmark, Whirlpool and Agco — a Duluth, Minn.-based manufacturer of agricultural equipment. (He has already suspended his radio talk show, which aired on AM 750 WSB.)
But he actually has little to lose. A presidential bid would raise his profile — and likely increase potential income from speaking fees. He clearly enjoys the attention he receives as the rare black ultra-conservative who commands the respect of newly-empowered tea party activists.
Cain came to national attention in 1994, when, as the CEO of Godfather’s Pizza, he challenged then-president Bill Clinton about his health care proposals in a televised forum. Shortly thereafter, Cain was elected board chairman of the National Restaurant Association, an organization which dedicated itself to beating back what would have been “ClintonCare.” That makes Cain a go-to guy for conservatives who want an experienced businessman to denounce the Affordable Health Care Act.
In addition to tea party bona fides, Cain has the ambition of a man with a new lease on life, having survived State 4 colon cancer.
“I only had a 30 percent chance of being here talking to you today,” he told me last week. “God said, ‘Not yet.’ . That was one of those defining moments that got me to (this) point today.”
That point is a hair’s-breadth from a presidential campaign.
— Cynthia Tucker
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365 comments Add your comment
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
3:17 pm
He believes in a fantasy called the FAir Tax.
There’s your sign.
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
3:25 pm
And as a dedication to Good Grief — FIRST!
Kamchak's gerbil
February 17th, 2011
3:26 pm
Kammy – what does there’s your sign mean?
Jeff
February 17th, 2011
3:29 pm
Disagree, when you are actively fighting against the rights of people you are an Uncle Tom if you’re African American. Especially since we, and our ancestors know how defeating it can be to have an entire civilization treat you as a second, no THIRD class citizen. They are more than welcome to their views on economics(Their are Blue dog Dems), but their views on poor people, women, and gays are dangerous and feckless. They do the things they do to me because their self-loathing, and it’s not like “Black Conservatives” don’t do their share of dangerous rhetoric, personally I think being called an Uncle Tom is easier than being threatened with gun violence because of some economic issues of health care.
Jeff
February 17th, 2011
3:31 pm
..not only that but being called an Uncle Tom is fitting once one thinks of what the CivilRights Movement was really about. Economic and Social equality..it’s not justified to be African American a primary beneficiary of the Civil Rights Movement to deny those same rights and equal treatments to others.
Sandman053
February 17th, 2011
3:33 pm
pretty good ideas I think. I’ll vote for him.
ctucker
February 17th, 2011
3:38 pm
Jeff@3:29, There is nothing about Herman Cain that strikes me as “self-loathing.” Self-interested, perhaps. Self-loathing, no.
Tommy Maddox
February 17th, 2011
3:38 pm
There goes the Left – “Look! A successful black business man! He’s a Republican!! String him up!!!”
Hypocrites.
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
3:38 pm
pretty good ideas I think. I’ll vote for him.
Don’t think he will survive the primary process, so you had better have a “plan B.”
NL2ATL
February 17th, 2011
3:39 pm
@Kamchak’s gerbil:
Since we’re from GA that might just be your Jeff Foxworthy reference
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
3:41 pm
There goes the Left – “Look! A successful black business man! He’s a Republican!! String him up!!!”
I’m part of “the Left.”
Please show me where I have ever advocated that.
Thanks in advance.
Tommy Maddox
February 17th, 2011
3:44 pm
It’s not coming from the Right – and since the right has been labeled in a broad swath as “racist” notwithstanding any iota of proof thereto, it figures when someone on the Left lets their own brand fly.
Generalizations are bothersome, eh?
False Evidence Appearing Real (FEAR)
February 17th, 2011
3:46 pm
I agree DeVega may have been out of bounds CT. However, Cain seems a better entertainer than potential presidential candidate. I mean, seriously?? The guy simply lacks real credibility.
I could no longer stand to hear the sound of his voice at some point in 2008 when he fervently insisted, on a near-daily basis, that the US economy was SOUND, and that we were definately NOT in recession. Remember that mantra? This despite all the foreclosures, bank failures, layoffs, pitiful stockmarket performance, etc. He carried the GOP water instead of appealing to his own presumed common (or so-called business) sense. I guess he’s chasing after the Palin/Bachmann/Alan West crowd. More power to him.
Not at the Trough
February 17th, 2011
3:47 pm
Herman Cain was a successful businessman, and I have heard him many times. A judicious thinker. I would vote for him, but doubt if he could win. The novelty of having a black president appears to have worn off.
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
3:47 pm
The ol’ “well Tommy did it too” defense?
Doesn’t work on the playground, doesn’t work with adults.
I always figured you were better than that.
Oh well, live and learn.
Class of '98
February 17th, 2011
3:49 pm
I love him. Would vote for him in a heartbeat. GO HERMAN!!
ctucker
February 17th, 2011
3:50 pm
FEAR@3:46, Yes, Cain is a good entertainer. That’s why he has a radio talk show. Good ideas for the presidency? probably not
granny godzilla
February 17th, 2011
3:54 pm
No matter who said it or nasty stuff like it –
It is way over the top and cheapens the debate.
Really disgusted
February 17th, 2011
3:57 pm
I sure hope I’m not considered a regular!
Racism on the left? Never!
February 17th, 2011
4:02 pm
Unfortunately, eventually you’ll have to realize that the average leftie is just as, if not more, racist than the average rightie. Righties can be honest about it, but lefties have to lie so they can keep their automatic black vote. If the average black person knew what the average Democrat politician thought of them, the Dems would never win another election again.
If it weren’t for black conservatives like Herman Cain to allow the lefties to get their racism on, they would probably explode from holding it in for so long.
It’s like the north/south thing. The north likes to keep up this idea that they are more tolerant than the south, but when it comes down to it, in my experience northerners are just as racist, if not more so, then southerners.
San Francisco… So tolerant, right? But they also price most black people out of being able to live there. When there’s hardly any black people around, it’s easy to be all tolerant. But shove a San Franciscan in Atlanta, and you will see someone with a really bad attitude, unlike white people that grew up in more diverse areas.
Mike K.
February 17th, 2011
4:05 pm
For once, I think Cynthia’s right. I don’t know anything about Cain, but it’s wrong for prominent blacks of the left to call blacks of a conservative mindset Uncle Toms, minstrels, or race traitors. As Cynthia points out, that is the essence of racism.
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
4:05 pm
I sure hope I’m not considered a regular!
You wish to be irregular?
There are various over-the-counter remedies for that.
Joe Cool
February 17th, 2011
4:09 pm
“If the average black person knew what the average Democrat politician thought of them, ”
Is that You Gov. Deal?
carlosgvv
February 17th, 2011
4:09 pm
There was a time in America when virtually all African-Americans were Democrats. That there are now an increasing number of Republican African-Americans is a good and healthy thing. It breaks the old racist notion that all Blacks think alike. I have to question what the real motives of both blacks and whites are who critize and African-Americans being conservatives.
JF McNamara
February 17th, 2011
4:09 pm
It was clearly out of bounds. As far as being a President, that is clearly a No. I think he just wants to use the Sarah Palin route to fame.
JF McNamara
February 17th, 2011
4:12 pm
Carlos,
If Republicans would drop the racial bent, there would be a lot more Republicans. I might switch completely if I didn’t have to deal with the Birther, Confederate Flag crowd…but alas, they aren’t going anywhere.
Black Conservative
February 17th, 2011
4:18 pm
Hi C.T.
Just because a black person does not follow in lock-step with liberals or Democrats, does not make him/her an Unk Tom. An Unk Tom supports the racial views and policies of the oppressor in spite of Unk Tom’s own people out of ignorance. My problem with Cain is that he refuses to meet and network with other blacks who are successful in business and life. He isolates himself to white conservatives only and this is what make him an easy target for the Unk Tom label. He feels he is superior to other blacks because he is the ole “spec in the buttermilk.”
Joe Cool
February 17th, 2011
4:18 pm
“If Republicans would drop the racial bent, there would be a lot more Republicans.”
So True, The Thing That Hurts Republicans, Is That The Racial Bent Is Part Of Their Base And Most Minorities Do Not Want Any Association With Any “Group” Where Racism Is A Part Of Their Base.
Douglas
February 17th, 2011
4:23 pm
Carlos stated: “There was a time in America when virtually all African-Americans were Democrats”.
In the last election the democrat Obama got around 95% of the black vote. Is that the time in history you were speaking of?
Tommy Maddox
February 17th, 2011
4:25 pm
No Kam – I’m not accusing you of that stuff and please don’t take that as such. I’m don’t like labeling either but these fools who think they can get away with this kind of crap just because they are black are the penultimate in hypocrisy.
One Nation Under educated
February 17th, 2011
4:26 pm
ohhh yeah, i get it – minstrel – yeah thats a dog whistle
i feel you, man. I’m a native american accountant.
…you wouldn’t belieeeve….
Joe Cool
February 17th, 2011
4:28 pm
“In the last election the democrat Obama got around 95% of the black vote.”
And? So Did Clinton, Gore………………
“What Your Point Is”…lol
Dick Hertz
February 17th, 2011
4:30 pm
Certainly that is some hyperbole from some random blogger, hoisted to prominence by Dave Weigel, Libertarian apologist and fellow traveler. But is it really racist, or is it making a fair historical comparison perhaps colored with the aforementioned hyperbole? Considering that the forces allied in the current right wing coalition includes the former Dixiecrat bund, the Conservative Citizens Councils as have come up with Haley Barbour, and a variety of other colorful characters whose racism is colored more or less by the gentility of their class, could the comparison be accurate in its description? I could see how one could consider Cain as either the cartoon described in the article or as the camel’s nose under the tent, were one of a different political persuasion.
And I would suggest that there is a substantial contrast between the state sponsored, legally enforced racism that was the subject of the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act, and the day to day biases and prejudices of everyday people alone and in concert. A key contrast is that the law can be changed with the stroke of a pen; everyday prejudice must be overcome a person at a time and will take generations. The South isn’t special for having racism in its history to the present; it is special for having made that racism a key feature of how it presents itself and how life is conducted.
I look forward to the day that we can dislike a man not for the color of his skin, but for his regressive and backwards political and social opinions.
Black Conservative
February 17th, 2011
4:30 pm
Well stated Joe Cool. Though I am a convservative, I do not identify myself as a republican. Too many republicans have to toe the racial line to prove their “street cred” with the racists.
Douglas
February 17th, 2011
4:33 pm
Joe Cool my point is(and your post supports it) that virtually all African-Americans were/are Democrats. lol
ctucker
February 17th, 2011
4:38 pm
DickHertz@4:30, You wrote:”I look forward to the day that we can dislike a man not for the color of his skin, but for his regressive and backwards political and social opinions.”
I believe that day has arrived. And, yes, I believe the blogger relies upon the same notion — that black people should or do think alike — that racists did. I don’t think Cain is a “cartoon.” Over the top showman? Absolutely. That’s why he has a radio talk show.
Black Conservative
February 17th, 2011
4:38 pm
I dare any Republican (or Democrat) in office to to make this statement: “If you are a racists, white supremist, black nationalist, do not vote for me….I do not want your vote.”
Joe Cool
February 17th, 2011
4:42 pm
“Too many republicans have to toe the racial line to prove their “street cred” with the racists.”
Indeed! Personally, I’m More Fiscally Conversative, but More Socially Liberal, Yet At the Same Time That “street-cred” Mentallity Goes In Any Field Whether Politics, Business, Etc. Its The Cater To The Masses or Majority Or Whatever Will Help You Get Votes Or Whatever You’re Seeking.
Case And Point…..I Heard Bortz This AM, Call Out Bohner For Not Putting His Foot Down On That Whole “Birther/Muslim” Obama Mess! He Knew Bohner Likes To Leave That False Notion In The Base’s Mind.
Black Conservative
February 17th, 2011
4:45 pm
My man Joe!!!
Ragnar Danneskjöld
February 17th, 2011
4:47 pm
Dear CT, Thank you for the opening statement. For the longest time black conservatives – Thomas Sowell, Walter E Williams, Clarence Thomas – have suffered the vilest racial slurs of any contemporary person of color (witness the Common Cause rally Feb 5.) Until black folk are free to think for themselves, without suffering racial ad hominems for their beliefs, black folk will not be emancipated.
In a perverse sense, the failure of our current president is evidence of racial progress in this country. The economic disaster languishing under his administration is blessedly not attributed to pigment in his skin, but to a triumph of his political ideology over conservative economics. (I know you were trying to keep this blog apolitical, and I should have honored your intention, but I thought my harsh judgment harmonious to your larger point today.)
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
4:52 pm
OH NOES! IT’S THE AD HOMINEM CARD!
God Bless America... and no one else
February 17th, 2011
5:00 pm
I know Herman Cain personally, and supported his Senate campaign financially and by volunteering. He’s a great deal more than “an over the top showman”. He’sa guy who went to college while supporting a family, moved up the corporate ladder in three huge food and beverage conglomerates, and epitomizes what the beneficiaries of the Civil Rights movement should be – a responsible, well-educated Black Man successful in his professional endeavors who is taking part in the mainstream political process at a high level.
The harsh judgements from the Left are unjstified, knee-jerk reactions that speak more to their racism (as defined as a preconcieved idea based on a person’s race) than they do anything about the Right.
ctucker
February 17th, 2011
5:04 pm
TommyMaddow@4:25, You are trying me. Watch your crude language or be banned.
0311/0317 -1811/1801
February 17th, 2011
5:06 pm
I always seriously thought that the first African-American president would have to be at least a moderate Republican to have a chance.
Boy was I wrong and now we are paying for it.
If you ask me, Herman Cain is too good for the White House as the Office of the Presidency has been tarnished so much by both Republican and Democrat presidents.
Just sayin’
ctucker
February 17th, 2011
5:06 pm
God Bless@5p.m., I pointed out Cain’s business creds in my column.
God Bless America... and no one else
February 17th, 2011
5:09 pm
Didn’t mean you this time, CT. I meant all the dingbats he dealt with in 04, and those like the blogger you reference today…… as well as some of your posters.
DW
February 17th, 2011
5:18 pm
I STRONGLY agree that blacks should be able to afiliate themselves with whatever party they choose. I CANNOT understand why it would be republican. Unless you are old, white, rich, and christian.. they are doing NOTHING for you.
Auburn fan
February 17th, 2011
5:20 pm
I like Mr. Cain and think he would make an excellent president. It would be very interesting to take race completely out of the equation if both the candidates were black. Maybe then people would really look at the issues and not make it a beauty pageant.
Auburn fan
February 17th, 2011
5:21 pm
Hey DW, what have the Democrats ever done for you? Absolutely NOTHING!
carlosgvv
February 17th, 2011
5:22 pm
Douglas
I was talking of a time years ago when it would have been next to impossible to find a black conservative. If the far-right hold on the Republican party can be broken, you will find there are many moderate black voters.
DW
February 17th, 2011
5:24 pm
they damn sure arent the ones holding a secret caucus to prevent sunday alcohol sales now are they!!?? Dipsh!ts…
Auburn fan
February 17th, 2011
5:24 pm
By the way CT, Great article today!
Keep up the good fight!
February 17th, 2011
5:26 pm
Herman Cain appears to be one of the common folks over at the Republican party. Its not about race, although to some it may be. Its about self-promotion and playing to a base to take their money. Its simple greed. He is no different than Palin or others. He happens to be a member of the black race and it is unfortunate that some still see that as a point of distinction.
That said, there are some things that remain inappropriate because of the history of this country to say when refering to people of any color.
Auburn fan
February 17th, 2011
5:26 pm
how was it secret if you know about it DW?
DW
February 17th, 2011
5:29 pm
CAUSE ITS ALL OVER THE FREAKING AJC!
Auburn fan
February 17th, 2011
5:30 pm
after listening to Herman Cain for a while, he reminds me of Ronald Reagan. Now that will get some people upset on the left!
Auburn fan
February 17th, 2011
5:31 pm
A secret meeting was reported in the paper? not much of a secret was it?
Auburn fan
February 17th, 2011
5:33 pm
Can you believe some guy poisoned the Oak trees in Auburn? I am sure he must be a Republican.
0311/0317 -1811/1801
February 17th, 2011
5:34 pm
DW:
The short of it is, the Democrats have managed to keep an entire ethnic group subservient to the federal government in addition to breaking up the family unit.
DW
February 17th, 2011
5:36 pm
What have repubs done to stop that???? NOT a damn thing!
Auburn fan
February 17th, 2011
5:36 pm
Old DW does not care..don’t confuse him with facts.
DW
February 17th, 2011
5:39 pm
Put yourself in an AVERAGE black man shoes and ask yourself what the republican party has to offer him. hmmmm… extended tax cuts for millionairs? Sweet.. idiots
Keep up the good fight!
February 17th, 2011
5:40 pm
Scout Zero…more of the false subservient claims?
But then again you are a birther…so rationality is not your strong suit. Xenophobia certainly is.
0311/0317 -1811/1801
February 17th, 2011
5:42 pm
Keep up the good fight! :
This is an “Opinion” blog ……………….
Oh, go eat your supper. Maybe you’ll feel better.
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
5:44 pm
Old DW does not care..don’t confuse him with facts.
(Sigh) And which facts are those?
Auburn fan
February 17th, 2011
5:47 pm
The fact is Democrats have destroyed the family in many households by making the Federal Gov. the breadwinner.
DW
February 17th, 2011
5:49 pm
It would be SO much better if we just let them go hungry and homeless
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
5:50 pm
The fact is Democrats have destroyed the family in many households by making the Federal Gov. the breadwinner.
You got something other than your opinion to back that up?
Auburn fan
February 17th, 2011
5:50 pm
I don’t like Blue Laws and think they all should be abolished. They do not accomplish anything.
DW
February 17th, 2011
5:51 pm
at least you got that right auburn
Auburn fan
February 17th, 2011
5:53 pm
have you ever heard of President Johnson and the Great Society?
Keep up the good fight!
February 17th, 2011
5:54 pm
Scout Zero….yes it is an opinion blog. You’re entitled to your opinions and I am entitled to state my opinions of your opinions, especially when the theme is consistently irrational and intentionally provoking hate at islam or just plain silliness like birther claims.
Simply put, racists, islamophobes, xenophobes and others have no place in civilized rational discussion. Your daily posts are no better than Mr. Devega’s in that they are generally sophmoric. Your 5:34 is Exhibit A.
You seem to have some intelligence and wit (I could be wrong). I challenge you to try to drop the hate against entire groups.
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
5:56 pm
have you ever heard of President Johnson and the Great Society?
Of course. I lived through that period.
ctucker
February 17th, 2011
5:58 pm
Auburn fan@5:33, I’m quite upset about the oak trees at Toomer’s Corner. I’ve partied there many times. I don’t think it’s wise to bring politics into that, but since you did — the suspect probably is a Republican voter. He’s a middle-aged white guy in Alabama. You think he votes for Democrats?
Auburn fan
February 17th, 2011
5:58 pm
That was the start of the decline of the family unit and you know it
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
6:01 pm
That was the start of the decline of the family unit and you know it
No, and you don’t have the authority to define what I “know”, sport.
Auburn fan
February 17th, 2011
6:01 pm
CT. I am furious over those trees and I bet he is a Republican. He is also supposed to be a retired Texas state Trooper. imagine that!
DW
February 17th, 2011
6:01 pm
LOL ctucker!!
Auburn fan
February 17th, 2011
6:02 pm
you are not going to draw me into an argument “sport”. facts are facts. Before the welfare state existed Families were much stronger.
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
6:06 pm
factsopinions arefactsopinions.Fixed your typos.
Keep up the good fight!
February 17th, 2011
6:12 pm
Auburen..you mean they were stronger when, oh say, Ben Franklin was with his mistresses in other countries? Thomas Jefferson with his slave mistress? Or, as many have pointed out in the past, JFK was with his mistresses? We could go on and on…but the fiction of the “strong family unit” is a myth. In all likelihood it is as strong as it ever was. Some of the prior practices that may have been hidden may be more open now but that practices existed then as they do not without the lies and hypocrisy.
Orange11
February 17th, 2011
6:15 pm
Herman Cain is the man!!!
Auburn fan
February 17th, 2011
6:18 pm
what is the good fight? I can tell you are another one that just like to argue. Your post made no sense.
Scarecrow
February 17th, 2011
6:18 pm
“DW” Identify “:them” — Who is the “them that should be homeless and hungry!!!! — Only by the grace of God — it “ain’t” you!!! Watch out “big guy” the wolf could be at your front door tomorrow!!!!
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
6:20 pm
Your post made no sense.
There’s your sign.
saywhat?
February 17th, 2011
6:46 pm
I like trees,especially big old trees, but at least the deaths of the Toomer’s Corner trees have one small bright spot, it will save them from the indignity of future toilet papering.
As for Herman Cain, nothing he advocates makes any sense to me. His business background does not really matter to me, as I have never found financial success in business to be an accurate predictor of moral character or reasonable political beliefs.
Somebody mentioned that to vote Republican in one’s own interest, one had better be old, rich, white, and Christian. I guess in Herman’s case, 3 out of 4 is good enough.
Amy
February 17th, 2011
7:00 pm
Herman has my vote!
Stanford
February 17th, 2011
7:01 pm
CT – I almost never disagree with you – until now. The real problem has always been we have two different Americas. One for the very rich and another for everyone else.
Herman Cain is just another rich guy who will say or do anything for money, it has nothing to do with race.
Mr. Cain is no worse than many of the other phony “conservatives”, like his boss Kneel Boortz.
They don’t have to really believe in the FairTax Scam or arithmetic; all they need to do is sell the con to their suckers!
Stripes
February 17th, 2011
7:01 pm
I do not agree with all of what Herman Cain says. But he is a class act, a smart, articulate, successful man. This kind of biting criticism from a Chauncy DeVega or anyone else does a disservice to a man who other African Americans could stand to emulate.
Bob
February 17th, 2011
7:06 pm
Just a heads-up on a typo: “If you cannot act responsibility, please don’t comment here.” I don’t have anything else to add (don’t know these folks you’re writing about, though what you say about them seems to make sense), so feel free to delete my comment.
stepper
February 17th, 2011
7:10 pm
I say if Mr. Cain has issues with the Unaffordable Health Care Act give him a place on the ballot. The sooner it is repealed the better we will all be.
quick
February 17th, 2011
7:11 pm
Vote Herman Cain 2012
there’s my sign!….
Confused
February 17th, 2011
7:13 pm
Racism is at its core a stereotype. It obviously worse than many and must be checked whenever it is encountered However any stereo type is equaly logicly flawed and, I would argue should also be questioned. I think someone who has not thouroughly thought through there own politcal positions no matter what line of the spectram they land on has done themselves and the rest of us a disservice. Generalizations, name calling, and stereotping seem to show at minimum a disrespect for the individuality and inteligence of others and at worst a sense of superiority on the part of those using them. So many political tools use this to devide and so many here and elsewhere seem ready to think what we are told to about somone basid on diliberatly false or hyperbolic devisive notions. Disagree with the man if you like. If he wishes to run it is his right to do so. Why mock him for it?
S Reality
February 17th, 2011
7:17 pm
Herman Cain for President!!! If this article was from anybody other than Cynthia Tucker it would bother me! Let’s see……….. C Tucker counts as her idols: Nancy Pelosi, Jessie Jackson, Harry Reid not to mention others of like mind!!!!!!!! Need I say more! The only mistake I made was getting on this site but I did see Herman Cain’s name! Outta here I consider myself too smart for this group of people! Bye!!!!
kayaker 71
February 17th, 2011
7:19 pm
Of course it’s about race. If Herman Cain was a white man, CT could care less. I listen to him on a regular basis. He is articulate, sincere, honest, non-yielding on issues that he believes in…. I don’t listen to him because he is a black man…… I listen to him because of his views and what he believes in. Tucker should do the same as should all of the rest of you race bait idiots on this blog.
quick
February 17th, 2011
7:22 pm
CT@5:58…If someone were to say…”She is a middle aged black woman living in SC – the suspect is probably a Democratic voter”
Would that be a racist commet or a bigoted one?…or just observation?
Keep up the good fight!
February 17th, 2011
7:24 pm
k71…did you bother to read the piece….you do realize Ms. Tucker was clearly saying she does not agree with Mr. Cain but using slurs to attack him is out of bounds.
B Cosby
February 17th, 2011
7:25 pm
Keep @ 6:12, Don’t forget about the affairs of MLK and his illegitimate children, which the King family does reconize as part of the family!! Oh, and the great Obama’s father.
Keep up the good fight!
February 17th, 2011
7:30 pm
Cosby…yep. Thanks for supporting my point.
B Cosby
February 17th, 2011
7:33 pm
Keep, I noticed you only mentioned white people, kinda racist don’t think. I thought I would level the playing field, although I did give you a 1/2 white guy.
Dan
February 17th, 2011
7:34 pm
Intelligent well spoken and experienced and therefore realastically guided, certainly an upgrade by any measure
kayaker 71
February 17th, 2011
7:36 pm
Good Fight,
Tucker could care less about anyone who does not agree with her liberal agenda. She is patronizing Herman Cain. I did bother to the read the piece. That’s why I am so upset. She could care less about anyone with a conservative point of view, especially a black man. Herman Cain is not black enough for her kind and that is a real shame. It colors everything she writes. Where is all of her condemnation of all the slurs in attacking those she demonizes. It certainly does not lie with a black conservative. They haven’t walked over Selma bridge….. they are not the old guard John Lewis black man. The Herman Cains of this world have a special place. CT just doesn’t realize it.
Memphis11Gate
February 17th, 2011
7:38 pm
Jeff you are fool. Black people can independently think for themselves and who has enslaved blacks since the1960 with welfare? Democrats, many studies point to the breakup of the black family to social welfare programs. I worked with a man that was in the welfare system and the male was out of the picture, why, government rules and regulations. Democrats, now I don’t agree with Herman on somethings however he looks out for all people. If you teach some to fish, its better than giving them a fish. Jeff will never understand that. Like a famous sociologist points out blacks vote Democratic because they get the most welfare out of the system and are afraid of taking risk.
Memphis11Gate
February 17th, 2011
7:38 pm
For one rare time, I have to agree with Tucker.
Oh Please!!!
February 17th, 2011
7:44 pm
CT, thanks for adressing the race issue with Herman Cain. I usually disagree with you, but congrats for taking an agree-to-disagree approach. (I believe in libertarian economic principals as opposed to Keynesian principals).
I have long wondered what race has to do with economic principals.
We all know how Justice Thomas has been reviled because of his right-of-center political views. As well as many other black conservatives that have been called “sell-outs.”
Thank you for taking a stand against this form of black on black racism.
Chris Sanchez
February 17th, 2011
7:45 pm
CT: You said: “Auburn fan@5:33, I’m quite upset about the oak trees at Toomer’s Corner. I’ve partied there many times. I don’t think it’s wise to bring politics into that, but since you did — the suspect probably is a Republican voter. He’s a middle-aged white guy in Alabama. You think he votes for Democrats?”
Depends on how you define a Democrat. If you mean Zell Miller then he probably does vote Democrat. If you mean Nancy Pelosi then probably not. That is actually rather sensible of him if true!
Chris Matthews
February 17th, 2011
7:51 pm
Herman is one fine and honest man!
quick
February 17th, 2011
7:53 pm
K71 – she was so offended by it…she reprinted it!…go figure
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
7:53 pm
I worked with a man that was in the welfare system…
Did you also stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night also?
With Morgan Fairchild?
Yeah, that’s the ticket.
Keep up the good fight!
February 17th, 2011
7:56 pm
k71…well if you did not rather to read the opinion piece, I guess there is no point in readying your posts because you simply do not know what in the hell you are talking about.
Cosby…You’re right. The historical names I chose happen to have been white…but I guess you have a quota I must meet in my posts to include a percentage of other races on a post that was not race related….how very silly. But as long as you are debating strong family units…did slave owners care much about strong family units when they broke up slave families or is the historical reference of the strong family unit which some people want to return to a “strong white family unit”?
I Know You Are But What Am I
February 17th, 2011
8:00 pm
I simply cannot stand the politics of Herman Cain.
Other than that, he seems to be a great guy. And who in the hell cares what color of skin he’s wrapped in? Why is race always such a predominant subject?
kjf
February 17th, 2011
8:00 pm
would black America favor a full blooded black candidate over one that is half white
B Cosby
February 17th, 2011
8:04 pm
It was a different time in the world. I owned no slaves nor would I. Slaves weren’t only black in history, it’s even in history books. Did you know black tribes in Africa caught people from other black tribes and sold them to the evil white man? That’s in the history books too. Some people just had the ability to get over it. To bad the United States can’t. And for the quota, you get 13%.
quick
February 17th, 2011
8:05 pm
so…i opened the box…and Schrodinger says…”Goodbye…I’ve seen this parade before”
kayaker 71
February 17th, 2011
8:05 pm
Good Fight,
I know precisely what I am talking about. CT usually defends those who uphold her beliefs. Those are not Republicans, especially those who are black. Save your indignation for someone who deserves it.
guy
February 17th, 2011
8:06 pm
Herman Cain worked hard to be where he is. I have listened to his views a lot and he’s very intelligent.Those that expect something for nothing will not approve of him at all.Liberals won’t like him because he speaks using good common sense.
As a white male, I will be proud to support and vote for Herman Cain!
Schrodinger's cat
February 17th, 2011
8:07 pm
See ya….soon
Greg in Duluth
February 17th, 2011
8:10 pm
CT: you’ve been inside the beltway for way too long and don’t know the difference between Duluth, GA and Duluth, MN.
Schrodinger's cat
February 17th, 2011
8:17 pm
close…as Maxwell Smart would say…”Missed it by that much”…
Marco?
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
8:18 pm
would black America favor a full blooded black candidate over one that is half white
“full blooded” — what the hell does that mean?
Is it your contention that there have been presidents in the past that weren’t full of blood?
independent thinker
February 17th, 2011
8:21 pm
Herman Cain and Clarence Thomas are a betrayal to their race. Both believe that republican conservatives are the saviors of minotities and the downtrodden because they got their slice of the golden pie and refuse to look back at the less fortunate. and P.S. I am not Black,
Tommy Maddox
February 17th, 2011
8:21 pm
Sorry – been gone.
CT: I guess I am confused. Why would my post @ 4:25 PM be crude?
No matter what your color, you don’t hide behind it to throw rocks at someone of your own color just because of their differing political view. I think that was the basis of your premise to which I agree.
Hootinanny Yum Yum
February 17th, 2011
8:25 pm
Herman would have my vote in a heartbeat. Intelligent, well spoken and a highly successful track record in the business world. Best of all, he’s not a career politician.
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
8:30 pm
Why would my post @ 4:25 PM be crude?
Well, the words, “these fools, this kind of crap” and “because they are black ” immediately leap to mind.
kayaker 71
February 17th, 2011
8:32 pm
Independent Thinker,
Many of those “less fortunate” members of our country are that way because of the choices that they have made in life. Herman Cain and Clarence Thomas have obviously made many of the right choices to get to the place in life that they occupy. They obviously believe that working hard, being responsible citizens, paying their own bills and being loyal family members is important. If many of those “less fortunate” would have adopted some of their credos, perhaps we wouldn’t be paying so many of their bills. These two gentlemen have not betrayed anything. And I don’t care if you are pink with yellow polka dots. It doesn’t matter.
Tommy Maddox
February 17th, 2011
8:36 pm
I think that would be accurate – maybe not artful in delivery – but who needs delicacy when dealing with racists?
Jack
February 17th, 2011
8:39 pm
Thin skins do abound. I don’t particularly like to be called a geezer, but Tucker seems to thinks it’s okay.
Jennifer
February 17th, 2011
8:47 pm
Hermain Cain fuels racism. I watched him at a rally in Duluth Georgia. He sat and listened to a speaker call African American’s lazy and stupid. At the end of the questioning period he said, “where are all the racists folks say come to my rally’s ?”
kayaker 71
February 17th, 2011
8:52 pm
Jennifer,
There are certainly parts of any ethnic group who are “lazy and stupid”. If Mr, Cain declines to comment, he probably agrees that his ethnic group pretty well has a lock on that description. If it walks like a duck……..
Schrodinger's cat
February 17th, 2011
8:52 pm
yeah Jen..him and Cosby
0311/0317 -1811/1801
February 17th, 2011
8:54 pm
Keep up the good fight! @ 5:54 pm
“Scout Zero….yes it is an opinion blog. You’re entitled to your opinions and I am entitled to state my opinions of your opinions, especially when the theme is consistently irrational and intentionally provoking hate at islam or just plain silliness like birther claims.
Simply put, racists, islamophobes, xenophobes and others have no place in civilized rational discussion. Your daily posts are no better than Mr. Devega’s in that they are generally sophmoric. Your 5:34 is Exhibit A.
You seem to have some intelligence and wit (I could be wrong). I challenge you to try to drop the hate against entire groups.”
This is getting so old ……… but I’ll try again:
1) Islam is spelled with a capital “I” .
2) I do not believe that one race is genetically superior to another so I submit I am not a racist.
3) I do not “hate” all Muslims but I do hate the evils of the political system of Islam and more and more people are starting to see the difference. There are moderate Muslims, Islam is not moderate.
4) The “birther” thing is quite amusing. I am really not sure about all of the “in’s and out’s” of that except that Obama is the President and that ain’t going to change.
5) Speaking of “hate”, your deep hatred of me is quite apparent in most of your posts so I guess that makes you a “Scoutophobe” ……. a heavy burden to bear.
6) And finally, you are free to not read my posts and I’m sure if I go too far Jay will cut me off.
As always, thanks for your input.
Your humble and obedient servant,
0311/Scout/Corporal
sea
February 17th, 2011
8:54 pm
Behind Herman 100% !!!!
Schrodinger's cat
February 17th, 2011
9:00 pm
well put Scout…ya gotta love logic….don’tcha?
0311/0317 -1811/1801
February 17th, 2011
9:01 pm
Schrodinger’s cat:
Thank you ……….. lot’s of liberal emotion on here but not much logic.
0311/0317 -1811/1801
February 17th, 2011
9:03 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight !
P.S.
Regarding the birther thing, I suggest you contact the Supreme Court and see exactly what’s going on. I sure as heck don’t.
From Drudge:
“Supreme Court schedules ‘conference’ on Obama’s eligibility”
0311/0317 -1811/1801
February 17th, 2011
9:03 pm
Excuse me: “I sure as heck don’t know”
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
9:11 pm
Thank you ……….. lot’s of liberal emotion on here but not much logic.
Yeah, because your constant fear mongering has absolutely nothing to do with emotion.
Teh stoopid, it burns! Oi!
0311/0317 -1811/1801
February 17th, 2011
9:14 pm
Kammy:
“Air raid Pearl Harbor. This is no drill”
A few tried to warn the country on that also …………. “fear mongering” !
Keep up the good fight!
February 17th, 2011
9:19 pm
Scout Zero….jay is going to cut you off on CT’s blog?…okay. I mean after all I know you have said that Bookman cannot be reasoned with and is quite rude. So maybe he does do that.
And lets be clear…in the past you have stated your hatred all Islam. That is based on which commandment of the bible?
I dont hate you……I hate what you stand for. And more and more people are starting to see the difference.
Let’s also be clear. Despite your effort to misdefine racism…it is more than a claim of genetic superiority. Racism is:
1. animosity toward other races: prejudice or animosity against people who belong to other races
2. belief in racial superiority: the belief that people of different races have different qualities and abilities, and that some races are inherently superior or inferior
Again, your 5:34 is example of a racist claim of subservience.
They BOTH suck
February 17th, 2011
9:21 pm
Where were all these people who claim to be behind Cain when his name was on the ballot several years ago?
Steve
February 17th, 2011
9:21 pm
I agree with CT on this one.
BTW – Just because Cain will likely loss is no reason not to try.
brian smith
February 17th, 2011
9:22 pm
I see Mr. Cain as a man with clear vision and has chosen to not be a victim. How did he get to his level of success? Can it be duplicated? Of course it can but for those who continue to throw color into the discussion…please don’t vote.OK? How are you doing with the current administration freebies?
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
9:23 pm
“Air raid Pearl Harbor. This is no drill”
A few tried to warn the country on that also …………. “fear mongering” !
Yep, fear mongering.
Every one of your posts, a rabbit hole to fear.
You couldn’t recognize logic if it bit you on the ass.
They BOTH suck
February 17th, 2011
9:24 pm
@Steve
While I disagree with much of what Cain as to say, if he thinks he can run than he should do just that.
While it doesn’t mean he will be a good elected official, no one can or should try to take away his great accomplishments in the business arena.
He is a self made man and should be applauded for that
They BOTH suck
February 17th, 2011
9:26 pm
@brian
Good points, however there are many left leaning self made business people as well. I hope you applaud them just as much as you do HC.
B Cosby
February 17th, 2011
9:29 pm
Funny thing, race is always an issue on CT’s blog. Although she claims to provide political commentary. Bloggers like Keep Up the Good Fight are always the ones to play the race card. When you are watching television, listening to the radio or out in public, I hear the N-word from the black community. I rarley hear it from whites, orientals or the latinos. Kinda makes you think. I believe racism lies within the race. My boss is a black man from inner L.A. He hates the term African American. Says he is not from Africa, never been to Africa and does not plan on ever going. Like me he has traveled to many different countries and only sees the race card being played in the United States. Something’s wrong there. Don’t you think? What I don’t understand is why African American? America is a continent, not a country. Even the POTUS claims to president of America, I did not realize other countries on the continent had the right to vote in the United States. Watch BET for 1/2 hour and I think you can understand my point. They are more than proud to promote the stero-types the racist like CT, keep, and granny complain about daily. It’s time people in the United States learned to get off their ass and get over themselves. My rant is over.
kayaker 71
February 17th, 2011
9:30 pm
Good Fight,
If your definition of “racism” includes the inability to criticize those of other races without being demonized, then I agree with you. If criticism denotes racism, your definition holds no water. Is there no room in your definition for disagreeing with those of another race without being called names? I certainly have animosity toward people of ethnic groups who do not act responsibly, expect others to pay their bills, make the wrong choices in life voluntarily and expect others to pick up their slack. I have given up on the term “racist”. It has no meaning other than to brand someone with a derogatory name who criticizes those with whom they disagree. Save your textbook definitions. They don’t fit.
They BOTH suck
February 17th, 2011
9:33 pm
@ B Cosby
Funny you didnt mention that Ken Melhman and Mike Steele, 2 of the last 3 RNC chairmen, apologized for the Republican party using RACE, ie as a divividing wedge for the last 40 yrs………
Take you less then 1 minute to google it
Be my guest
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
9:34 pm
My boss is a black man from inner L.A.
Setting aside the veracity of your unsubstantiated claim, personal anecdotes, while amusing and entertaining is not a substitute of the actual reality of race relations in this country.
Oh, and I’m calling BS on your claim.
TheOne
February 17th, 2011
9:34 pm
Cynthia, your opinion is just embarrassing. You talk as though you are an expert on things about which you have not nearly the experience of others. No offense, but given Herman Cain’s background compared to yours, I think his opinion is probably a bit closer to the mark than yours.
0311/0317 -1811/1801
February 17th, 2011
9:37 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight !
1) Sorry, I meant Tucker.
2) “I dont hate you……I hate what you stand for. And more and more people are starting to see the difference.”
EXCELLENT ! I was waiting for that! You just made my point !
I don’t hate Islam …… I hate what it stands for. And more and more people are staring to see the difference.
3) When it comes to you calling me racist ………. you have no idea what is in my heart. If the truth as I see it means you will call me that ……….. well, have at it.
4) Exodus 20:3 “You shall have no other gods before Me (Jehovah not Allah).”
And before you say Allah is just another name for Jehovah (because Jehovah was first), tell that to a Muslim and report back what you find out.
Deuteronomy 12:29-3 “When the Lord your God cuts off before you the nations whom you go in to dispossess, and you dispossess them and dwell in their land, take care that you be not ensnared to follow them, after they have been destroyed before you, and that you do not inquire about their gods, saying, ‘How did these nations serve THEIR GODS (emphasis added)?—that I also may do the same.’ You shall not worship the Lord your God in that way, for every abominable thing that the LORD HATES (emphasis added) they have done for their gods, for they even burn their sons and their daughters in the fire to their gods.”
0311/0317 -1811/1801
February 17th, 2011
9:38 pm
Kammy:
LOL !
Don’t you have a cabinet to make or something ?
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
9:39 pm
Cynthia, your opinion is just embarrassing.
Oh geez…another pantywaist that either can’t own their emotions, or are looking to book someone else on a guilt trip.
B Cosby
February 17th, 2011
9:39 pm
Kamchak & They both suck. I was stating personal facts and opinion. Pick apart the easy parts if you must. Like I stated get over yourself.
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
9:40 pm
Le petit caporal
Aren’t you supposed to be sitting on a park bench
Eying little girls with bad intent.
Avenger
February 17th, 2011
9:41 pm
Kayaker. ” CT usually defends those who uphold her beliefs. Those are not Republicans, especially those who are black. ” That applies to just about every one- including you. Any one in America that says that they don’t see race is lying through their teeth. You can see race and not be a bigot. Your constant projecting about Ms. Tucker says a lot about you.
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
9:45 pm
Kamchak & They both suck. I was stating personal facts and opinion.
No, you were citing a personal anecdote as if it were the be all and end all of race relations.
ODDOWL
February 17th, 2011
9:50 pm
What big house is this article about ??? Herman cain or Allen West ???
0311/0317 -1811/1801
February 17th, 2011
9:50 pm
Kammy:
HA ! Did you make the bench ?
B Cosby
February 17th, 2011
9:51 pm
Kamchak, you have no idee of my personal ancedotes. That’s your opinion. Race relations are a crutch for those to lazy and ignorant to change their situation, if needed. Once again, get over yourself.
They BOTH suck
February 17th, 2011
9:52 pm
@ B Cosby
No you get over yourself and that is a fact
kayaker 71
February 17th, 2011
9:54 pm
Avenger,
CT’s constant barrage against all that is not black gets old. I see race every day of my life and I am not lying through my teeth. I will also respond to Kamchak’s post about being black. My next door neighbor is black. He doesn’t use his race to expect any special treatment. He also does not like to be called an African. He is not African, he is American. He is teaching his children that it is more important to be an American than to be African. He works hard for what he has, is proud of his country and expects his children to be likewise. What the hell is wrong with that? When the black community thinks that it is more important to be black than to be American, we will continue to have shi**y racial relations in this country. My “constant projecting about Ms. Tucker” is mere disagreement with her basic beliefs. She lives in a different world than I do and I want no part of it.
0311/0317 -1811/1801
February 17th, 2011
9:55 pm
B Cosby :
You don’t know Kammy. He’s hardcore !
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
9:56 pm
Kamchak, you have no idee[sic] of my personal ancedotes[sic].
Don’t give a fat rat’s ass about your anecdotes, and it doesn’t matter whether they are true or not.
What you have or have not experienced does not run the gamut of human race relations
B Cosby
February 17th, 2011
9:57 pm
They both suck pretty much describes you and Kammy. Perhaps you and Kammy should get on your gov’ment issued cell phone and call someone who really give a f*ck what you think!!! I’m finished with both of you.
Thulsa the Doom speaks on Clarence Thomas
February 17th, 2011
9:57 pm
Yep. I just got through all the video clips of the liberal white people protesting judge Thomas last week. Otay- heeeere we go!!
Video 1 of older white man saying Clarence Thomas should be put to work in the fields- Nice slave analogy old feller.
Video 2 of a liberal middle aged white woman saying judge Thomas AND his wife also should be strung up and hung- niiiiiice, real nice lady there.
Video 3 of a younger liberal white women saying Judge Thomas should have his toes cut off and fed to him. Lovely. Just lovely.
Video 4 of a young liberal white couple saying once again that Judge Thomas should be lynched. Real nice folk them liberal yuppies. Yesssssirrreeee.
What did you say Cynthia? Go-
“I find that kind of criticism of black conservatives deeply offensive because it presumes that they are not entitled to think differently. Isn’t that the essence of racism — the notion that all black folk must think and act alike? Don’t racists make that very assumption?”- Cynthia T.
Right on Cynthia. Right on. And who is it that presumes to tell black people how they are supposed to think? Who are these racists making that assumption about a whole group of people???
If you answered Liberal White people then correct you are!!!!!!!!
John Galt
February 17th, 2011
9:58 pm
I’ve been labeled a racist often in Tucker’s column. I am a native American. Have not voted for a republican for President in more than 20 years. I voted for John Monds and I would vote for Herman Cain.
Aren’t we deservedly tired of the racist tag?
If that’s the only argument you have, take some time off. It no longer works.
Thulsa the Doom speaks on Herman Cain
February 17th, 2011
10:00 pm
Watch your back Herman. Those racist liberal white people are already coming after you with their usual cacophany of hate slurs- Uncle Tom, sellout,etc.
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
10:02 pm
I will also respond to Kamchak’s post about being black. My next door neighbor is black.
So?
I spend two thirds of my time in Atlanta in an all black neighborhood and one third of my time in a small hamlet in the N.C. Mtns. and I can go days without seeing a black person.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award" much like CT's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.
February 17th, 2011
10:05 pm
Was it a Tea Party member who slandered Herman Cain?
Thulsa the Doom
February 17th, 2011
10:05 pm
Don’t take it from them Judge Thomas and Herman Cain. Don’t let them paternalistic, condescending liberal white people tell you what you’re supposed to think as if they know what and how you’re supposed to think. Don’t ever let them put you on that groupthink plantation.
Keep up the good fight!
February 17th, 2011
10:07 pm
When you are watching television, listening to the radio or out in public, I hear the N-word from the black community. I rarley hear it from whites, orientals or the latinos. Kinda makes you think.
Think like Dr. Laura think?
B Cosby – Not American….United Statesian
K71…when you criticize people by racial stereotypes it is racism. You can disagree with people no matter what color….when you disagree with them based on racial stereotypes, you are straying into racial territory.
I certainly have animosity toward people of ethnic groups who do not act responsibly, expect others to pay their bills, make the wrong choices in life voluntarily and expect others to pick up their slack — Now see, when you make it about an “ethnic group” then you make it racist. You dont have a problem with white people who do not act responsibly, expect others to pay their bills, make the wrong choices in life voluntarily and expect others to pick up the slack? Its only an “ethnic group” that does that, right?
PS: People making bad choices in life voluntarily…..I dare say most everyone has.
Kamchak
February 17th, 2011
10:08 pm
Shorter Johnnie-poo Galt: Boo-hoo-hoo
The Leg Lamp is a "major award" much like CT's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.
February 17th, 2011
10:08 pm
Is the racist Tea Party behind the slandering of Herman Cain?
Thulsa the Doom
February 17th, 2011
10:11 pm
Lie Detector turned on- buzz buzz buzz. OOOOPS. The Total BS detector is lighting up and going bonkers.
Kamchak states that he spends 2/3 rds of his time in an all black neighborhood. Not a mixed neighborhood. Not a 70/30 mostly black neighborhood. But in an ALL BLACK neighborhood he spends 2/3 of his time in. So he is the only white person in an ALL BLACK neighborhood. Hmmmm. There it goes The total BS counter has blown a fuse, the lie detector has fried up, the total crappola meter has been blown straight into the stratosphere. Red alert. Red alert. Complete and absolute total BS alert!!! Oh, and the lying sack of sh&t siren is blaring. Someone turn it off.
Thulsa the Doom
February 17th, 2011
10:19 pm
We’ve got another alert. Those aggressive, intimidating, middle aged tea party folk have physically taken over the Wisconsin senate building. They’re out there raising hell, jumping all over the place, physically taking over a building, waiving all kinds of signs calling the governor Hitler, calling him Mubuarak, imperial dictator, calling him a rapist among other vile things, these tea party folks are really aggressive.
What you say? They’re not tea party folk? They’re teachers, their students, and union thugs? The union thugs I believe. But teachers and their students? Aint they supposed to be in school?
The Leg Lamp is a "major award" much like CT's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.
February 17th, 2011
10:20 pm
Thulsa the Doom
February 17th, 2011
10:11 pm
How can it be an all black neighborhood if a white guy lives in it?
willie lynch
February 17th, 2011
10:20 pm
Michael Steele out Herman Cain in. Repugs may not be racist but they only have room for one at a time. Do your thing Herman, Sleep and Eat was also a persona.
Keep up the good fight!
February 17th, 2011
10:22 pm
Willie….looking forward to the Cain puppet on Jon Stewart!
0311/0317 -1811/1801
February 17th, 2011
10:23 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight! :
I answered all of your questions.
No response to my 9:37 ???
Thulsa the Doom
February 17th, 2011
10:23 pm
Unemployment alert!!!!
For the first time since the great depression unemployment has exceeded 9% in 21 straight months.
Change you can believe in! Yeee haaaaaa!!!!!!
Thulsa the Doom
February 17th, 2011
10:26 pm
Deficit alert
The Obama administration’s own 10 year projections show deficits will total 7.1 trillion over the next 10 years. And that estimate is with very rosy 4-5% avg economic growth numbers which is not realistic.
This would break the crappola meter except that Kamchak’s BS earlier already broke that meter.
Auburn Fan
February 17th, 2011
10:30 pm
Kamchak why do you argue so often? why try to annoy people into a fight ? Is this your big thrill for the day?
Thulsa the Doom
February 17th, 2011
10:31 pm
Leg Lamp,
Now I realize that the logic don’t make no sense. But we’re talking about Kamchakian anti-logic. Its an anti-logic where BS merges-fuses with a dose of anti reason and a teaspoon of negative rationality to produce Kamchakian anti-logic. Its how he splains things like his ideas and his total BS that don’t make no sense at all.
Keep up the good fight!
February 17th, 2011
10:32 pm
Scout Zero…did not know that you required my personal attention. You have a particular need for attention and support, dont you? You may want to see professional help for that “needing attention issue.” I did note your whine over at Bookmans that you needed Del’s assistance over at Tuckers. Childish really.
Thulsa the Doom
February 17th, 2011
10:34 pm
willie lynch,
Only one black man at a time under the conservative tent? You may want to tell that to JC Watts, Alan Keyes, Shelby Steele, Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, Michael Steele, Herman Caine, Justice Thomas, and many others. Were’nt able to keep them on the groupthink plantation were ya?
willie lynch
February 17th, 2011
10:36 pm
Thulsa the Dumb
February 17th, 2011
10:23 pm
Will you please stop with that foolishness. Let’s add the fact that the country hasn’t had an economic calamity like this since the great depression. Also let’s remember both of those events were the results of Repugnican administrations. Hmm, I wonder.
The Leg Lamp is a "major award" much like CT's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.
February 17th, 2011
10:37 pm
Social Security/Medicare/Medicaid: 57% of Budget, 0% Cuts…
Keep up the good fight!
February 17th, 2011
10:37 pm
Thulsa the Dumb….Willie, I love it. Mind if I use it too?
The Leg Lamp is a "major award" much like CT's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.
February 17th, 2011
10:39 pm
willie stench
February 17th, 2011
10:36 pm
“Will you please stop with that foolishness”
Cease posting and it will stop.
Thulsa the Doom
February 17th, 2011
10:40 pm
Democratic strategy
1- blame bush
2- bash palin
3- scream racism
AAAAAAhhhhh! So I see Willie that you are resorting back to Dem strategy no. 1- Blame Bush 2 years into the Obama adminstration. I reckon you’ll be blaming bush on year 3 day #364 as well won’t you?
The Leg Lamp is a "major award" much like CT's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.
February 17th, 2011
10:41 pm
In a stunning move, the U.S. Supreme Court has scheduled another “conference” on a legal challenge to Barack Obama’s eligibility to occupy the Oval Office, but officials there are not answering questions about whether two justices given their jobs by Obama will participate.
The court has confirmed that it has distributed a petition for rehearing in the case brought by attorney John Hemenway on behalf of retired Col. Gregory Hollister and it will be the subject of a conference on March 4.
Thulsa the Doom
February 17th, 2011
10:43 pm
Queer up,
I can come up with some good ones too you know.
0311/0317 -1811/1801
February 17th, 2011
10:44 pm
Keep Up the Good Fight! :
Well now, you were the one who asked me the questions. I assumed you wanted me to answer them.
Obviously, I answered them to the point where you had not come back …….. or you would have.
And again, you get personal which is your style.
Thanks for the input.
0311/0317 -1811/1801
February 17th, 2011
10:45 pm
Excuse me: “no comeback”
0311/0317 -1811/1801
February 17th, 2011
10:45 pm
Auburn Fan:
That’s just Kammy. He means well, it’s just hard for him to express it.
0311/0317 -1811/1801
February 17th, 2011
10:47 pm
TAPS !
See ya’ll tomorrow !
willie lynch
February 17th, 2011
10:47 pm
Thulsa the Doom
February 17th, 2011
10:34 pm
J.C. Watts won’t be seen with a repugnican, Alan Keyes was laughed out of the party, I point you to:
Keyes first stated that he was considering leaving the Republican Party during a January 2008 appearance on The Weekly Filibuster radio show.[83] He did not withdraw his candidacy after John McCain won the necessary 1,191 delegates to the Republican National Convention, even though he was no longer campaigning for the Republican nomination.[81] On March 27, 2008, Keyes’s campaign website began displaying the Constitution Party’s logo, along with a parody of the trademarked GOP logo in the form of a dead elephant.[84] This appeared to be an indication of Keyes’s intentions to quit the Republican party and to begin officially seeking the Constitution Party’s presidential nomination.
Shelby Steele, Walter Williams, and Thomas Sowell couldn’t be identified by 10 Tea Party if you gave them the last names under the pictures. Michael Steele and Herman Cain? Dealt with them in the previous post. And Clarence Thomas, you can have him!
willie lynch
February 17th, 2011
10:49 pm
Keep up the good fight!
February 17th, 2011
10:37 pm
Feel free, I encourage it! I hold no claim on the obvious.
willie lynch
February 17th, 2011
10:50 pm
The Leg Lamp is a “major award” much like CT’s Pulitzer and Obama’s Nobel.
February 17th, 2011
10:39 pm
willie stench
———————————————————————
Now that’s funny!
Keep up the good fight!
February 17th, 2011
10:51 pm
Scout Zero…did I hurt your feelings? You dont think that anyone who is of the Islamic faith might consider it personal? Or perhaps your racial attacks? You make it personal and offensive daily and yes, I make it my style to do point out the racists and xenophobes who post utter nonsense.
Thanks for your nonsense.
Thulsa the Doom
February 17th, 2011
10:53 pm
Willie,
Allan Keyes is too conservative for the rino republicans- that is why he left. Your idea that 10 Tea Party members couldn’t identity Steele, Williams, Sowell simply shows your vast ignorance- you know not of what you think. You just think you do and that is your opinion.
I think the tea party members know a heck of a lot more about the constitution than voters of a party who have to be rounded up like sheeple, given $5 to vote Dem, and driven by busloads to a polling place to vote Democrat. And that sir is a fact.
Thulsa the Doom
February 17th, 2011
10:54 pm
Willie,
Take the blog back. I’ll be back in an hour or so.
willie lynch
February 17th, 2011
10:57 pm
Thulsa the Doom
February 17th, 2011
10:54 pm
Doom, who are you, really?
StJ
February 17th, 2011
10:59 pm
“He clearly enjoys the attention he receives as the rare black ultra-conservative who commands the respect of newly-empowered tea party activists.”
But wait…how is this possible?
The Tea Party is just a bunch of looney racists, right???? Didn’t someone have photographic proof of this a while back? A sign, Confederate flag, guy wearing a sheet, oh wait, not to mention the entire crowd at the rally was white. No black people to be found.
Then how is it possible that a black man can command their respect?
november cant come soon enough
February 17th, 2011
11:05 pm
Interesting that you can organize yard sales in Chicago and you are qualified to be President , but if you are CEO of a multi million dollar company you are just a lap dog .
MJ
February 18th, 2011
12:09 am
Listen here people. RESPECT one another and try walking in love. All Americans have the right to choose as they may. RESPECT it. I say decide where you stand on issues important to our country, family, and society according to your faith and your knowledge of the truth. HATE what is evil and do what is GOOD always. We black republicans know our history from slavery to freedom, from voting rights to civil rights (thanks Republicans) and from Lincoln to present. That is why we are free, successful and independent thinkers. We know the true racist history of the Democrat party and decided to not be enslaved by them. RUN! Try something new since liberal led cities and towns are failing still today after over 40 years of democrat rule. Facts are being Hidden from you today but well documented. We desire change for a better life. That is why we are black conservatives. Stop hating us and get rid of that sickness in your hearts and love one another and respect each other’s choices. Black conservatives love you and respect your choice. You all need Jesus Christ! I am praying for all of you.
Franco de St Louis
February 18th, 2011
12:15 am
Cynthia, Although your work had long since forfeited the conceit of fair journalism, your choice of Herman Cain as your subject compels me to comment: Bravo! In the coming months, you just may find that white conservatives like me find Herman Cain every bit as compelling as we find Barack Obama repugnant, and on the same basis: his beliefs and policies. Race has never been an issue for me, but the monsoon of erroneous and pathetic complaints, from the professional Left, of racism against anyone who finds the Obama administration hopelessly naive and unprepared to govern, have given folks like me all the more reason to support a successful American businessman like Herman Cain…keep up the good (ideologically blind propaganda) work.
Hootinanny Yum Yum
February 18th, 2011
12:19 am
Why is calling Herman Cain a “minstrel” out of bounds, but calling people Flat-Earthers, Birthers, Lunatic Fringe, Repugs, Neo Cons, and Tea Baggers okay?
ken
February 18th, 2011
1:02 am
He has his name on pay checks. He is a producer and not a democratic LEACH.
ken
February 18th, 2011
1:04 am
He is black, I am white and he has my vote.
Bushie
February 18th, 2011
6:18 am
The underlying idea that you have to be a democrat or are some how sled loathing and a traitornto your race is really then racist idea. If amwhitenman used the languagenof the Internet poster, younwould agree that it’s racist.
The term racist actually means something . It’s more than a perjorative for people who disagree with you.
ck hall
February 18th, 2011
6:24 am
I would vote for him!
BitterEXdemocrackkk
February 18th, 2011
6:37 am
black conservatives have been practicing for ‘decades and centuries’? Chauncey needs to ’splain
dis.
BitterEXdemocrackkk
February 18th, 2011
6:38 am
Ron Paul / Herman Cain 2012 !!!
I.C. Bias
February 18th, 2011
7:06 am
I rarely agree with you, CT, but good column this time.
I find Chauncey DeVega’s remarks particularly offensive because what I read in them is an admonishment to Herman Cain for (in DeVega’s mind) getting too uppity and forgetting his place.
How dare a black man have the audacity to believe that he can succeed on his own … and that he’s not beholden to the federal government for his personal success!
I.C. Bias
February 18th, 2011
7:08 am
november cant come soon enough
Interesting that you can organize yard sales in Chicago and you are qualified to be President , but if you are CEO of a multi million dollar company you are just a lap dog .
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Atlanta 1
February 18th, 2011
7:13 am
When our sitting President was elected I felt it was a mistake. With that said, I was happy for my African American brothers and sisters. This was a mildstone that many of color thought they would not see in their life time.
If Herman Cain runs, I will become a volunteer and do everything I can to help this man be elected, because I truly feel that he is exactly what this country needs. The fact that he happens to be African American has ‘nothing’ to do with the equation, except that it would help the country to continue to move forward.
It will be interesting to see how the left reacts to Mr. Cain, if he somehow becomes the Republican front runner. Do not count this man out. He has beat the odds his entire life.
Atlanta 1
February 18th, 2011
7:14 am
Forgot.
Thank you Ms. Tucker for stepping up.
Have a great weekend!
seabeau
February 18th, 2011
7:32 am
Im am conserative,white and I would vote for Mr.Cain I remember a time in Georgia that no black man was called Mr. A time when no black man would dare wear a hat in the presence of a white person. Great advances have been made in the advancement of my black brothers but their affiliation with liberals has engenered a generation of death and destruction for the black race. Dr.Martin Luther King,s Vision has been bestoed on a generation that has squandered it in sexual imorality ,depravity and lawlessness. These issues makes our intercities death traps for the black race.
hobby
February 18th, 2011
7:38 am
Herman could have had a chance if it were not for Obumer. Whites will not be so fast to vote for a black man — just because of his skin color — ever again! “White guilt” votes won’t be there for the next black candidate.
Walt
February 18th, 2011
7:39 am
Really disgusted
February 17th, 2011
3:57 pm
“I sure hope I’m not considered a regular!”
I’d be really disgusted if you were.
Walt
Jesse Jackson has a scheme for you......
February 18th, 2011
7:42 am
He believes in a fantasy called the FAir Tax.
This CT is why everyone questions if you truly understand finances and economics. The FAIR TAX is the ONLY thing that will bring the American Economy back to prosperity….
CT, please please please STOP drinking so much Obama KoolAid…….it’s truly bad for you…..
hobby
February 18th, 2011
7:47 am
“He is a wealthy businessman — and the more wealthy black businessfolk there are, the more black Republicans there are likely to be.”
Is there a corrollation here? Is CT suggesting this is a bad thing? Or should people remain poor and dependent on the gubment (and democrat?)
How dare a black man become successful! How dare him not stick togethere with other black folk!
How dare him not make his skin color more important than his desire to succeed?
But wait——–CT says that this ’speaking with one voice’ is only expected of blacks—by whites, so they are racist.
WHAT A RACIST HIPOCRITE CT IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Racism on the left? Never!
February 18th, 2011
7:48 am
I love how many of the lefties on here are saying it’s ok to call Cain an Uncle Tom because of Cain’s political views. That attitude is the essence of racism and bigotry.
tom turner
February 18th, 2011
7:51 am
Thanks for the second opinion, Ms. Tucker, but I think I will go with the first diagnosis.
CYNT U DESERVE UR JOB
February 18th, 2011
7:53 am
CYNTHIA MCKINNEY=FOR THE PEOPLE
HERMAN CAIN=FOR REDNECK RACISTS
BOTTOMLINE MARTIN LUTHER KING,HOSEA WILLIAMS AND MALCOLM X WOULD CONSIDER HERMAN CAIN A UNCLE TOM!
cosby
February 18th, 2011
7:54 am
Interesting, on one hand you seem to defend Mr. Cain, on the other, you seem to demog him for his conservative views. He has fought the battle both from the race issue to accumulation of wealth and he has won. He knows that it is not “GIVEN” to anyone, but that you must sacrafice and work to get to that point. We all make decisions and those decisons have consequenses. for some, the consequencs is living the good life, for others..well…So why put him down, CT., his views are right on. As for being a dark horse, was not your liberal man – Obama – one a few years ago. Dark horses can win.
wtf?
February 18th, 2011
7:55 am
To my regulars: The subject of this post requires maturity and civility. If you cannot act responsibility, please don’t comment here.
Kam,Granny, Willie,ect. you now have implicit marching orders from your momma CT. This must be the blog she wants to submit for Pulitzer consideration, so make sure to be on your best behavior. You wouldn’t want to think this blog is powered by web trolls, bad jokes and race baiters would you?
Kam – please spell check this for me as per usual
Next blog you can go back to your blind political and racial hatred.
hobby
February 18th, 2011
8:01 am
‘BOTTOMLINE MARTIN LUTHER KING,HOSEA WILLIAMS AND MALCOLM X WOULD CONSIDER HERMAN CAIN A UNCLE TOM!’
black racism at it’s finest!
Jimmy62
February 18th, 2011
8:02 am
I wonder what people think about the Wisconsin stuff? I’m not going to judge the teachers right now, but the Democrats reps that fled the state so there wouldn’t be a quorum as stifling the democratic process and abandoning the jobs they took an oath to perform. They should be kicked out of office, since they obviously don’t care to do their duty.
Bob
February 18th, 2011
8:08 am
Like Bill Clinton Said, ” just a few years ago, he would be getting us our coffee”. Or was Clinton saying that about Obama ?
buck@gon
February 18th, 2011
8:12 am
“The subject of this post requires maturity and civility. If you cannot act responsibility, please don’t comment here.”
HEY Civil Cynthia, I just LOVE the new you. You’re all cute and cuddly.
Hugs,
XOXO
Bob
February 18th, 2011
8:13 am
Lets see, the blacks that run this city are on polar opposites of Cain and we are #2 in crime. That crime stat does not include the criminals at APS that are trying to intimidate witnesses to cover their test cheating scam. So the people that call Cain Uncle Tom seem to be the ones that are fine with high crime and failing schools. If Cain were anti black, he would sit back and watch the current dem black leaders do what they do best instead of trying to fix things.
Cedric
February 18th, 2011
8:16 am
I find that criticisms like those leveled at Cain are more a self-reflection of the accusers’ inadequacies.
I'm breaking up
February 18th, 2011
8:20 am
@Cynthia – I find that kind of criticism of black conservatives deeply offensive because it presumes that they are not entitled to think differently. Isn’t that the essence of racism — the notion that all black folk must think and act alike? Don’t racists make that very assumption?
Watch it Cynthia, you’re being nice and that’s not like you at all. You are the definition of RACISM
Rev. Dave
February 18th, 2011
8:32 am
If I ever vote for a republican again it will be Herman and ONLY Herman.
Producer
February 18th, 2011
8:33 am
Saw the piece about Herman on Fox News last night. Go Herman! I’ll be interested to see his support all over the nation as his profile rises!
Bob
February 18th, 2011
8:34 am
Did the blogger really call Cain the monkey in the window ?
Tychus Findlay
February 18th, 2011
8:39 am
Black or white, Cain would make an excellent candidate for the Presidency because he ISN”T A CAREER POLITICIAN. He has visceral experience about what it takes to run an organization, operate within a budget, and produce a product that people want, not are forced, to buy.
THAT is what makes him viable.
The Ghost of Harry S. Truman
February 18th, 2011
8:39 am
Clarence Thomas put it very succintly: THOU SHALT NOT BE BLACK AND BE CONSERVATIVE.
USMC dawg
February 18th, 2011
8:50 am
“Calling Cynthia Tucker an honest Journalist is out of bounds…”
poisen pen
February 18th, 2011
8:51 am
Tucker states, if you’re a rich Black person than you are likely a Republican, WOW! She wants all Black people to stay poor so they will be on the dole and stay Democrats.
Tucker is what’s wrong with this country and she proves it everytime she writes an article.
poisen pen
February 18th, 2011
9:03 am
I think if Cain gets more popular Tucker & Jay will forget about Palin and start tearing him to shreads.
I am amazed at how many lap monkeys that Tucker has that actually believe her crap.
Plantsmantx
February 18th, 2011
9:04 am
Cynthia Tucker ticks off some of Cain’s policy positions that she disagrees with, implying that they are what Chauncey DeVega should have addressed, but goes on to say “But he used his time to give a very un-candidate-like speech — full of slogans and platitudes but lacking substance.” Exactly, and I think DeVega addressed Cain’s speech on the terms on which he delivered it. I watched the video, and he didn’t really talk about policy. That’s not the worst part of that column, though. The worst part is her refusal (and it is a refusal, because she has to be aware of it) to address things like Cain’s “some black people can think for themselves” crack, and his use of the “blacks on the Democrat plantation” rhetoric, while decrying the supposed black liberal presumption that black conservatives “are not entitled to think differently”. More than anything else, that column reveals Cynthia Tucker’s own fealty to the white political establishment.
MC
February 18th, 2011
9:05 am
Herman Cain’s resume is more impressive to me than Obama’s. He served in the miltary, he’s a proven business leader, and he grew up in America.
Gm
February 18th, 2011
9:07 am
poisen pen: No, the average black voter live in reality, there are plenty blacks who have business and hate the Rep party.
Hermain Cain will be like Richard Steele, white conseratives will use him.
How do these people like Cain think they have a chance especially in Georgia a state that has never elected a black Sen, Gov.
Look at Obama he has cleaned up George W mess and white conservatives hate his guts, Cain, Uncle Clarence and now reality check Steele when are you going to learn.
February 18th, 2011
9:11 am
“<i<Watch your crude language or be banned.”
Yes well you need to lay off this strong-arming.
I would remind you that it’s not possible to truly “ban” someone.
I’ve proven that several times.
jconservative
February 18th, 2011
9:12 am
I am writing the morning after an afternoon column so am late for the debate.
But I will note that Cain is far from being the first “black conservative” on the national stage. He is just another in a long line.
And the line will continue.
That alone makes Chauncey DeVega’s comments on Cain ludicrous.
Me? I consider Cain a CINO – to much of a Big Government guy for my taste.
ctucker
February 18th, 2011
9:13 am
jconservative@9:12, If Cain is too much the “big govt” guy for you, you must be a libertarian
ctucker
February 18th, 2011
9:14 am
OK, James@9:11. Let’s see.
MJ
February 18th, 2011
9:17 am
Herm has my VOTE! No experienced? If Obama can be president without any executive leadership experience, Herm would do just fine!
poisen pen
February 18th, 2011
9:18 am
GM, sorry, but I dissagree with you. Do you think it was Whites that made Cain rich or do you think that he made it on his own?
The problem that uneducated Blacks have is that they think if you are Black and well to do you must be White inside.
You are out of touch with reality and the way you think will only keep Black people poor & uneducated, you don’t even realize when you are being used by the liberals for your votes, and that’s a pity.
Obama didn’t get elected by just liberal votes, many conservatives voted for him, please look at the statistics.
It’s a real shame that you think White people use Blacks when in reality it’s the other way around.
willie lynch
February 18th, 2011
9:18 am
I hear all this “I would vote for Cain” talk, but he hasn’t been able to get elected as a representative from Georgia yet.
southernliving
February 18th, 2011
9:19 am
The Republican Party ended slavery. LBJ’s ‘Great Society’ put them back on the Plantation. My circle of black conservative friends is growing. Democrats don’t see it coming.
Shell
February 18th, 2011
9:22 am
Should’ve written “…black [and white] men and women gave their lives in the civil rights movement…”. Otherwise, spot on. Someone disagrees with him? Fine, just don’t do it because you think he should hold another position because of his skin color.
Keep up the good fight!
February 18th, 2011
9:23 am
The problem that uneducated Blacks have is that they think if you are Black and well to do you must be White inside
Poison….no matter what race you belong too, how exactly do you profess to “know” what is in the minds of “uneducated Blacks.” While I don’t believe you are a member of that race, even if you were a member and uneducated (I’ll give you the benefit of being uneducated for the purposes of argument), you dont speak or think for all members of that group. So you are really just continuing to spout racial stereotypes.
poisen pen
February 18th, 2011
9:24 am
Tucker, I personally don’t have a problem with you banning anyone from your own blog, but you should look at what some of the name calling that you regular liberal posters write.
I know it’s hard to be objective, but you should really try it sometimes.
The poster is correct in that if they want it’s easy to get a new IPS.
Junior Samples
February 18th, 2011
9:25 am
Anybody ever notice how any black person in a high profile position that appears to have a conservative viewpoint is so attacked and hated by the left. examples: Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, Bill Cosby, Condi Rice etc. I can’t quite figure that one out.
hobby
February 18th, 2011
9:25 am
so is he to be judged by the “color of his skin” or ‘the content of his character”?
We have picked one president for the former—I suggest we do better next time
AmVet
February 18th, 2011
9:26 am
southernliving, what a revisionist pile of ____. Do you also think the holocaust was fiction?
Northern, white, often Jewish, liberals fought and died to end segregation and de facto slavery in this country.
White, southern, conservatives fought tooth and nail to keep it in place. And to ignore the lynchings and torture.
Your foolish construct of Republicans vs. Democrat is interesting, but not useful.
Own your bigoted heritage.
southernliving
February 18th, 2011
9:29 am
AmVet,
Has the black family strengthened or weakened since LBJ’s ‘Great Society’?…we all know the answer to that.
TnGelding
February 18th, 2011
9:30 am
Well, he sure isn’t a serious presidential contender. But I’m sure he’s an intelligent man and fine citizen. But his take on Obama borders on ludacris.
somewhereinga
February 18th, 2011
9:31 am
Thank you Cynthia for telling us who Cain is. I have hard his name being talked about but never heard who he is. Now I see I have nothing to worry about.
Get It Right
February 18th, 2011
9:31 am
Hey, CT. You left out the part where DeVega referred to Herman Cain as a “monkey”. Was that not offensive to you? Where is the call to have DeVega barred from the Internet and fired from whatever position he holds? Perhaps that only applies to conservative “racists”.
poisen pen
February 18th, 2011
9:31 am
Keep up, one can tell what certain people are just by reading their posts and watching news and living with them.
Having been born in Detroit and living there for a good portion of my life I think that I am good judge of character and I read Tuckers articles and it’s easy to make that judgement.
Another way to know what they think is to watch the way they vote, Look at the racial makeup of any large city and tell me how people vote, I think that says it all, the city can be full of crime and poverty and if a Black person is running for office they will just keep putting them back into office, don’t believe me! check out Detroits history.
willie lynch
February 18th, 2011
9:32 am
I remember reading an article where the claim was made that there was a differing opinion among Israelis concerning the treatment of Palestinians. Upon reading the posts in response on this blog those members of the Israeli military were said to be disgruntled and not representative of “true” Israeli opinion. I find it funny that it’s expected all Israeli’s hold the same opinion but when it comes to Black people expecting the same that position becomes unrealistic.
CYNT U DESERVE UR JOB
February 18th, 2011
9:33 am
REMEMBER THE PEOPLE THAT HERMAN CAIN SPEAKS TO USE TO BE THE RACISTS DEMOCRATS OR (DIXIECRATS)! NOW THEY ARE THE RACISTS REPUBLICAN!
P.S. YOU CAN CHANGED PARTIES BUT STILL REMAIN RACIST!
AND ANOTHER THING,WHY IS IT THAT PEOPLE LIKE HERMAN CAIN,WARD CORNERLLY,JUDGE THOMAS AND ALAN KEYS SPEAK TO WHITE PEOPLE ABOUT DOWNING BLACKPEOPLE,INSTEAD OF HELPING BLACKPEOPLE? THIS IS WHAT MAKES THEM SELLOUT UNCLETOMS! YOU DONT SEE WHITE DEMOCRATS GOING TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY TALKING DOWN ABOUT THEIR OWN WHITES!
AmVet
February 18th, 2011
9:33 am
southernliving, I presume from your dodgeball 9:29. you conceded the point.
Well played.
JackLeg
February 18th, 2011
9:33 am
Boy ct I am glad you don’t run a business, but it is even sadder that this administration has less business experience than my 13 year old.
First ct please tell me why a gold standard is wrong, the dollar has only gone down since we went off of the gold standard, so tell me again why a strong dollar is bad for America?
The “Affordable Healthcare Act” is just the opposite of what the name is, the democrats love to name thing that they are not. Tell me if it is so affordable home come Obozo has exempt ALL of his favorite unions and almost every large company that gave to his campaign, 2200 in all so far, including government workers, so if it so “Affordable” why do they get exemptions because it would cost too much?
Fair-Tax, the only reason anybody would even oppose this is because the government would lose its power to punish people and companies it does not like with higher taxes. Oh and illegal aliens would also be paying taxes, and the democrats just could not burden their constituents with taxes, they might lose a vote.
Cain is way too smart to be elected….
Keep up the good fight!
February 18th, 2011
9:33 am
Whenever posters go for the “”we all know the answer to that” it demonstrates that they dont have a real argument or evidence so they have to presume to speak for everyone when in fact they speak only for their closed minds.
ken
February 18th, 2011
9:34 am
I am sure he can produce a birth certificate. Show us yours BHO.
southernliving
February 18th, 2011
9:34 am
Get It Right,
Did you also hear about the Liberal protest groups in California calling for Clarence Thomas to be ‘Lynched’? The Racism is coming from the Left.
Get me Rex Kramer
February 18th, 2011
9:35 am
Thank you Cynthia for supporting Herman Cain, and not treating him with a double standard.
southernliving
February 18th, 2011
9:36 am
AmVet,
I am a black female, so you failed all the way around dear.
willie lynch
February 18th, 2011
9:36 am
southernliving
February 18th, 2011
9:29 am
Back again Mystique?
Keep up the good fight!
February 18th, 2011
9:38 am
Keep up, one can tell what certain people are just by reading their posts and watching news and living with them.
Having been born in Detroit and living there for a good portion of my life I think that I am good judge of character and I read Tuckers articles and it’s easy to make that judgement.
Another way to know what they think is to watch the way they vote, Look at the racial makeup of any large city and tell me how people vote, I think that says it all, the city can be full of crime and poverty and if a Black person is running for office they will just keep putting them back into office, don’t believe me! check out Detroits history
Yes…because when it is a Republican who resigns to avoid ethics charges, in Georgia we dont put them back in office, we make them governor. Wait a minute…that was not the large city population that voted for the governor…..
My own theory….. your judgment is about as uneducated as your statements.
TnGelding
February 18th, 2011
9:39 am
LBJ’s Great Society was never fully funded. The plight of the black man wasn’t that great before then. And some of us forgot that those welfare mothers were mothers first. What a Hercuean job many of them did in raising their children against all odds.
willie lynch
February 18th, 2011
9:39 am
Why would they want to lynch Clarence Thomas? Isn’t he white?
TnGelding
February 18th, 2011
9:41 am
To make room on the SCOTUS for a truly distinguished American.
AmVet
February 18th, 2011
9:41 am
The Racism is coming from the Left.
Redact to read “Only the racism that I want to see or acknowledge is coming from the left.”
I am a black female…
And I’m a Jew. So what? That has nothing to do with the being correct or incorrect.
It is your arguments that are failing.
Bigotry is bigotry. No matter the source.
But even worse, in my eyes, are those that run cover for it.
Wish I could stay and play but duty calls. Gotta go keep the plutocrats comfy…
Hankie Aron
February 18th, 2011
9:57 am
CT- Not being nit-picky or anything but can you change the bold top line in your column to read “responsible” instead of “responsibility”
TnGelding
February 18th, 2011
9:58 am
If you want a black conservative, what about J.C. Watts? I thought he would have made a good Veep for McCain.
Hankie Aron
February 18th, 2011
9:59 am
I guess it’s my only OCD thing
TnGelding
February 18th, 2011
10:00 am
Responsibly? Or add ‘with’. But you are being nit-picky! Which is certainly your “right.”
Gm
February 18th, 2011
10:08 am
poisen pen: The problem that uneducated Blacks have is that they think if you are Black and well to do you must be White inside.
So why do they have to be undeducated? there are many educated blacks doing well think the same thing.
The Hermain Cans of the world are out of touch with reality, these same white conservatives who is building him up will tear him down the same way they did Richard Steele, the problem that you and the Cains, Thomas have of the world is you hate who you are,instead of using your smarts and wisdom to help up lift these communities, you are to busy trying to show white people that you belong.
Once again, when was the last time in Georgia have white conservatives voted for a black Sen or Gov? Cain, Uncle Clarence used the Affirmative Action programs to get where they are, these same white people that Cain is sucking up to would not let him in the Univ Georgia in the 60’s.
MC
February 18th, 2011
10:11 am
Regarless of Cain’s color, when you read his resume, it’s impressive. He could be black, white, or purple…the man created his own success. He was a mathmetician for the miltary, went to Moorehouse, worked for Coke, became a CEO etc. I personally am impressed with his accomplishments. Obama — not so much. He was never a ‘leader’ up until his presidency and it shows. He waffles. It takes a special person to lead a group of people and Herman Cain is a proven leader. The bonus is that he is a TRUE 100% African American by culture (and this scares the left).
Joe
February 18th, 2011
10:12 am
Tucker believes in the fantasy that a little known community organizer could be a real leader… LOL…
Snafu
February 18th, 2011
10:17 am
I have to laugh when people call themselves CONservative..What in the hell are you conserving? There is not such thing just as people want to call themselves liberal or progressive. When are people going to grow up andlearn that this BS of party loyalty is a joke. You vote for people who will do what is right for the PEOPLE..GET IT! No self serving IDEOLOGIES for that is what many of these politrickans do. Herman Cain is not different, no substance, and think because they run a business they can be President. But what is even more striking is these idiots who will vote for this shysters without fully looking intot their backgrounds. Nathan “The Crook” Deal is all the evidence needes that Georgians will vote for “the crooks”. Ignorance.
Snafu
February 18th, 2011
10:21 am
Joe,
When in the hell are you igorant throwbacks are going to stop with this “community organizer” BS? Tell what in the hell do you call a politician. He is a community organizer also..for he has to get the people to vote for him/her and he works for the people who are in a fact his community. Damn you people are ignorant. We know that is just your code word for “not liking a black man” Its okay racist..your true colors are showing.
williebkind
February 18th, 2011
10:22 am
We have documented proof that progressive liberals attach any black conservative personally and not their ideas. Just like NOW, if any woman is mistreated and is NOT a liberal they are silent. Howevever when NOW does speak it sounds like they are speaking for all women–we all know that is a lie. Progressive liberals are no different than extreme islamists. Just a different title. Did you see the progressive liberals who were caught on tape saying string up Judge Thomas and his wife?
Snafu
February 18th, 2011
10:23 am
CYNT U DESERVE UR JOB;
You got that right
MC
February 18th, 2011
10:29 am
Response to “willie lynch February 18th, 2011 9:18 am I hear all this “I would vote for Cain” talk, but he hasn’t been able to get elected as a representative from Georgia yet” — The Rebulicans should be proud to present Herman Cain. He is more educated and successful than Sara Palin and doesn’t have the baggage of Newt, Rudy, or Mitt. Also, the fact that he’s black as it levels the playing field betweent the two parties and race can be removed from the elections. People will be forced to look at the experience of Cain vs Obama, and hands down Cain is a better ‘leader’ and has the military experience to be ‘Commander in Chief’.
Snafu
February 18th, 2011
10:29 am
“The problem that uneducated Blacks have is that they think if you are Black and well to do you must be White inside”
PoisenPen: for you info blacks do not all walk in lockstep so you comment is really an uninformed one. Sounds like you are the uneducated one. I know you live in your bubble where you only see a certain kind of folk but get out more often and you will find out its not all that dribble.
MoreRightthanLeft
February 18th, 2011
10:30 am
I’ll say it…who was Barack Obama 4 years ago?…
Hermain has more experience and credibilty than the President will ever have..i love that some of you havent even listened to Hermain and can already form an opinion….
and as far as an entertainer…whatever!!! hes a business man…are you liberals afraid of a black man with a plan, an idea, an independent creative thought… anyone can be president…look at our current joke!!!
straitroad
February 18th, 2011
10:31 am
I have a great deal of admiration for Herman. He recognizes the peril of handing over control of one’s life to government. He’s obviously a very hard worker and a great example for other men to follow.
Snafu
February 18th, 2011
10:34 am
MC
The illusion of one being in the military does not give the carte blanche of an effective leader. So you can throw that dog whistle out of the window. It takes more than a military person to understand the plight of all American and not this BS of party loyalty. If Cain has not been elected since he was in the Republican party and you tout him as an educated man, he seems to lack common sense for don’t you think its time for him to leave that party? How about an independent? That would have probably suit him.
MC
February 18th, 2011
10:35 am
In response to CT critizisms of the regarding Cain’s stance of the affordable health care act and fair tax: What is your experience CT? Cain is a mathmetician and was a successful CEO (which means he knows something about finance and taxes)…I would trust his experience and opinions over yours. Also, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that it is dangerous for our dollor to not be backed by anything. It’s just paper. The Fed Reserve is poorly run and they control our economy (not the president). I like that Cain wants to take cotnrol away from the Fed Resere.
DP
February 18th, 2011
10:36 am
Tucker…I disagree with about 99.999% of everything you write or say. But I’ve raised my right hand a couple of times (military enlistment & reenlistments) to defend your Right to say anything that fits your fancy. How sad as it is that some people; blacks & whites can’t get past their color first attitudes…well, at least we must be slowly moving in the right direction, when even you are offended that someones right to speak differently from your own beliefs is called something hateful and wrong and you object. (I believe this only the 2nd time I’ve ever agreed with you on anything…maybe, just maybe being a parent is slowly changing you for the better….well at least we can hope so.)
MikeB
February 18th, 2011
10:36 am
Ms Tucker posted @ 4:38pm ” I don’t think Cain is a “cartoon.” Over the top showman? Absolutely. That’s why he has a radio talk show.” ~ I wonder what he thinks of you Ms. Tucker… My guess is he would approach his appraisel with a little more class…………
God Bless America posted at 5:00pm ” He’s a great deal more than “an over the top showman”. He’sa guy who went to college while supporting a family, moved up the corporate ladder in three huge food and beverage conglomerates, and epitomizes what the beneficiaries of the Civil Rights movement should be – a responsible, well-educated Black Man successful in his professional endeavors who is taking part in the mainstream political process at a high level.
The harsh judgements from the Left are unjstified, knee-jerk reactions that speak more to their racism (as defined as a preconcieved idea based on a person’s race) than they do anything about the Right.” ~ Well said…… If one understands this man and where he came from, one develops a greater appreciation for his opinion.
This is not a man spoon fed from Conservative operators as so many liberals would like folks to beleive…….. That is the real lesson of Herman Cain… Work hard, take personal initiative not handouts, acheive success, understand how you got there, and support programs that will help those who truly want to help themselves replicate the success he worked so hard for.
In other words, the anthisis of the liberal mindset. Politics would be so much easier for folks to understand if our friends in high office promoted these ideas vs. the buying votes with tax dollars/aid programs approach to govt.
Snafu
February 18th, 2011
10:41 am
MoreRightthanLef:
And it seems like you have a problem with the JOKER we had in office 8yrs prior. The problem is people fail to understand that effects of one President’s policies will often not be seen until well into the next one’s term. Now again..the JOKER who set all these things into to motion had a lot of time to do so for the economy did not just started tanking 2 yrs ago..it was because of INVASIONs into other people’s countries based on lies. This is not in defense of either President but before casting stones you need to look at the road.
MC
February 18th, 2011
10:43 am
Response to Snafu February 18th, 2011 10:34 am: I’m an independant that looks at a person’s resume (not party). If you look at what the ‘job’ of the president is, the two most important roles are ‘leader’ and ‘commander in chief’. Don’t you think having military experience helps when leading our miltary? Don’t you think working your way up to CEO shows tremendous leadership experience? Also, I’m not originally from GA, so I don’t think locally. I’m hoping Herman can capture the national stage. Most in GA aren’t too smart anyway to appreciate his accomplishments. The reality is, Obama opened the door for black politicians. Now race and party affiliation doesn’t matter, which is wonderful for Americans.
Walt
February 18th, 2011
10:43 am
I was reading Matt Taibbi and I thought of some of you guys:
“It would be inaccurate to say the Tea Partiers are racists. What they are, in truth, are narcissists. They’re completely blind to how offensive the very nature of their rhetoric is to the rest of the country. I’m an ordinary middle-aged guy who pays taxes and lives in the suburbs with his wife and dog — and I’m a radical communist? I don’t love my country? I’m a redcoat? F*** you! These are the kinds of thoughts that go through your head as you listen to Tea Partiers expound at awesome length upon their cultural victimhood, surrounded as they are by America-haters like you and me or, in the case of foreign-born president Barack Obama, people who are literally not Americans in the way they are.”
It’s not like the Tea Partiers hate black people. It’s just that they’re shockingly willing to believe the appalling horses**t fantasy about how white people in the age of Obama are some kind of oppressed minority. That may not be racism, but it is incredibly, earth-shatteringly stupid. I hear this theme over and over — as I do on a recent trip to northern Kentucky, where I decide to stick on a Rand Paul button and sit in on a Tea Party event at a local amusement park. Before long, a group of about a half-dozen Tea Partiers begin speculating about how Obamacare will force emergency-room doctors to consult “death panels” that will evaluate your worth as a human being before deciding to treat you.”
Just sayin’
Walt
hobby
February 18th, 2011
10:45 am
Snafu
“But what is even more striking is these idiots who will vote for this shysters without fully looking intot their backgrounds. ”
—-like Obama?
scott
February 18th, 2011
10:50 am
Herman Cain sure makes the guy who lives in the White House-whenever he’s not on vacation-look like a complete idiot. I’ll vote for him.
JAYBO
February 18th, 2011
10:50 am
CT- there is a teachable moment here for you- some of us who virtually never agree with your absurdly shallow and liberal diatribes might actually support you when you have a valid point
try rethinking or trying out a different perspective on your position once in a while for a reminder that some of us will actually agree when you are on target- but you rarely give us the chance
scott
February 18th, 2011
10:53 am
Obama was the first black president. Herman Cain could be the first competent black president.
MC
February 18th, 2011
10:54 am
Snafu – I do agree with you that Nathan Deal was a poor choice for govenor. Again, I look at the resume of the ‘person’ (not party). He has a history of shady and failed business dealing and is personally bankrupt. Definately don’t understand how people voted for him. Does Cain have any ‘dirt’ yet? So far, I haven’t see any evidence of it.
Gm
February 18th, 2011
10:55 am
MoreRightthanLeft: liberal dont have a problem with Cain, we have a problem with your hypocrite white conseratives who would pass on Cain and vote for undeducated, misinform Palin, please stop with the lies, Cain was not even mention among the people who would vote Rep for a nomination.
Obama has pulled and still pulling these country out the ditch GW left for him and most conservatives whites hate him, had he been white conservatives would have been calling him FDR2.
MiltonMan
February 18th, 2011
11:00 am
Cain running for US president is like the clown Baker in this state running for state office or the clown Vernon Jones in this state running for state office, etc., etc.
CT only like to point out those on the GOP side.
Gm
February 18th, 2011
11:00 am
scott: You are the idiot I guess Obama really is incompetent, thats why wall street is making record profits again, car industry is make a profit, American growth is surging.
Maybe if you Obama haters who are jealous of his success become true Americans and stop being bigots from your trailer this will be a better country.
Patricia Finley
February 18th, 2011
11:01 am
Only those who feel threatened use this method to intimidate. Just like I am called racist or a radical because I disagree with Obama. Herman Cain knows whereof he speaks and it would be best for those opposed to sit down and listen rather than to use tactics that only show how little they know about the situation or “we the people.” Keep going Herman because if you run you have my vote ten times over!
Wilster
February 18th, 2011
11:13 am
Is Chauncy racist for his comments?
Liberal Blogger’s Racist Attack on Black Conservative Herman Cain – Fox News | Conservatives for America
February 18th, 2011
11:16 am
[...] black conservatives fascinating, not because of what they believe but rather because of …Calling Herman Cain a “minstrel” is out of boundsAtlanta Journal Constitution (blog)Sean Hannity And Juan Williams Tackle Left-Wing [...]
williebkind
February 18th, 2011
11:17 am
Gm
February 18th, 2011
10:55 am
You do not use the term hypocrite correctly! The progressive liberals are deceivers which includes hypocracy. You talk about Obama’s competency well what about the new budget? Is that competency in your eyes?
Walt
February 18th, 2011
11:20 am
“Obama was the first black president. Herman Cain could be the first competent black president.”
People who say that are somewhere between half awake and half asleep.
Obama really in many ways IS carrying out a third Bush term. He has upped the number of predator drone strikes in Pakistan by 10%. He has said that we can kill American citizens overseas without any form of due process, there being a particularly odious Al Qaeda leader who happens to be a citizen. Some U.S. special ops soldiers were killed in Pakistan a couple of months ago. He has had a serviceman locked up since last July, mostly in solitary and often stripped to his underwear, an awful violation of Civil Liberty.
It was Bush who signed off on the TARP deal, not Obama. But Obama is willing to let Wall Street make obscene piles of money and do nothing to protect the People or to prosecute these financial guys who almost wrecked our economy.
Obama has flatly refused to let the laws operate – Bush and Cheney have openly admitted they ordered torture. That is a felony under U.S. law. But Bush is sitting on his veranda in Dallas, probably having a non-alcoholic beer.
It REALLY makes one wonder about some people’s motivation when they just lie and lie and lie about what Obama has done. He might as well BE George Bush.
Walt
Kamchak
February 18th, 2011
11:21 am
Ms. Tucker: New thread, please.
MoreRightthanLeft
February 18th, 2011
11:40 am
snafu
i had a huge problem with bush’s 2nd term…and i get the effects of presidents after they leave office..at some point Obama will have to quit blaming his old boss. And INVASION..and LIES, really??? are we going to start that again…the Congress(majority) backed up Bush in freeing Kuwait and Iraq…please find a solid arguement.
I noticed we’re still in Afghanistan and Gauntamono. The Joke is he talks out boths sides of his arse..while blaming other for his incompetence
The economy started tanking when the dems took over congress….Barney Frank, Chris Dodd ring a bell.
This Pres. would get stumped with the likes of Hermain Cain.
MoreRightthanLeft
February 18th, 2011
11:49 am
GM….
IM ARICAN AMERICAN…and Palin??? i didnt mention her.
i love how you bundle , racist, trailerparks, white trash and bigots…as Conservatives…
Libs pull the race card anytime they want…has it benefited you yet…
and your party has no room to talk when it comes to hypocrisy and double standards…
I completely disagree with Obamas policies- I am not a Racist or an Uncle Tom..let it go dude…
MoreRightthanLeft
February 18th, 2011
11:50 am
AFRICAN
buck@gon
February 18th, 2011
11:51 am
It’s nice to see civility on Friday, CC. Try and have enough discipline to use it all the time, please.
buck@gon
February 18th, 2011
11:52 am
Though I’m still waiting for you to equate Republicans with baby killers like you did last week because we supposedly don’t fund enough government programs that you daft liberals equate with life.
DebbieDoRight
February 18th, 2011
11:54 am
Herman Cain isn’t running for President; he’s running for more people to listen to his radio show. He may not be a minstrel but he is a shrewd self promoter. Go Herman Go!
Walt
February 18th, 2011
11:56 am
“Ms. Tucker: New thread, please.”
What difference does it make? No matter what the subject, the comments never change. It is like watching a waterfall.
Walt
buck@gon
February 18th, 2011
11:56 am
KamChak:
“Ms. Tucker: New thread, please.”
See! Even the liberals can’t stomach this “civility-for-thee, but-not-from-me” censorship nonsense you’re peddling today CC. Besides, you thrive on the meanness of calling us racists, bigots, ….. oh, we all know the drill.
Love to see you stick up for Thomas Sowell or Bill O’Reilly.
DebbieDoRight
February 18th, 2011
11:58 am
What difference does it make? No matter what the subject, the comments never change. It is like watching a waterfall.
Or the roller derby.
DebbieDoRight
February 18th, 2011
12:00 pm
Bill O’Reilly has enough people to “stick up” for him and his outrageousness. He doesn’t need Tucker’s apron strings.
Get It Right
February 18th, 2011
12:01 pm
@southern living…
Good point. How is it the Left can permit such racist vilification of Clarence Thomas (calls to have him “lynched” in California) and Herman Cain? CT endorses it with her silence – plus she probably can’t find an article to cut and paste from.
S Reality
February 18th, 2011
12:09 pm
Congrat’s C Tucker….. I follow all the blogs and you easily have the fewest commnets to your off the wall statements!!!!!! You found a way to get some actual responses!
But you got people like me to respond…. won’t happen again! I don’t mind reading or responding to people I disagree with but most people don’t have a certain slant or intention to all their posts!
"Banned"
February 18th, 2011
12:18 pm
“OK, James@9:11. Let’s see.”
Well I guess we saw.
That was fun, but I’m kind of bored with it.
I think I’ve made my point.
Kamchak
February 18th, 2011
12:18 pm
See! Even the liberals can’t stomach this “civility-for-thee, but-not-from-me” censorship nonsense you’re peddling today CC.
No, I’m merely bored with this topic.
In the future, please don’t try to speak for me — you don’t have my authority to do so, sport.
This just in
February 18th, 2011
12:58 pm
Kamchak if your bored go somewhere else then. This blog wouyd be much happier without you. Or do you have to wait for your keeper to come and help you find another blog?
EmmanuelHall
February 18th, 2011
12:58 pm
It hurts my soul that Mr. Cain is a Morehouse man and I cannot Imagine where he got his non-sense from. However, Ms.Tucker is correct, He has a right to say and believe any pollitical foolishness he chooses. Mr.Cain has as much chance of being President as Dr. would have had trying to get Bull Conors to turn the fire hoses off the students and take the dogs back to the kennel. Dr.King a great Morehouse man, wadged that war aganist hate and racism so people like Cain could speak their minds without fear of harm. Too bad its the worng speak.
willie lynch
February 18th, 2011
1:09 pm
Get It Right
February 18th, 2011
12:01 pm
I guess it’s probably the same way the right permits much of the same towards President Obama, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and others on the left.
The funny thing about Clarence Thomas is he is a good example of Black achievment to a point. Herman Cain seems to be an ok guy but he’s playing under the wrong banner. What Black people do (as all culture’s do) is send our own throught the litmus test of Blackness. Jews don’t elect as representitives those who are not going to represent Jewish interests, nor do Indians ask Pakistani’s to govern them, we all apply this standard.
Black people don’t have to feel bad about questioning the loyalty of one claims they represent us.,
Pat
February 18th, 2011
1:22 pm
To “Not at the Trough” …
So you say “the novelty of having a black President has worn off?”
That’s the whole problem with Republicans running the occasional token minority. When the GOP puts forward a black person, woman or other minority on the public stage, it is truly only as a novelty – as a cheap publicity stunt… a way to argue that protecting civil rights just isn’t necessary because, “look, here’s a rich one – and he/she likes our policies!” Deep down, they just don’t believe such folks are really qualified for their jobs – and because they believe it, they invariably pick unqualified tokens for “show pony” visible posts to add color to their sea of old white farts. Similarly, because they hate or disrespect government, they just don’t think governing is a serious job requiring serious people.
They think any dunce can do it – that’s why they tolerated Bush junior. He had a big war chest, and a deadly-serious overseer (Cheney) to handle the important mission-critical business of speeding our transformation from a democracy to a plutocratic oligarchy.
Democrats don’t run minorities as stunt candidates – that’s the Republican trick, and that’s why, Cynthia, I would respectfully have to disagree with your offense with the term “minstrel.”
While Mr. Cain may himself be a qualified serious candidate, I can assure you the Tea Party Republikooks who put him up on their CPAC stage did so for a show. “Look – we have a black guy! And so well-spoken, too!”
Lack of respect – or any real belief that blacks or women can be really taken seriously explains the entire Palin VP nomination. They thought, hmmm, the Dems are kicking butt in the primaries with Obama and Hillary – so they went and dug up Michael Steele and Palin. If they’d been seriously considering them as serious candidates, they had several smart, qualified blacks and women in their party to consider. Not many, mind you – but several – and those folks deserved a shot.
Instead, they picked a brain dead beauty queen they thought was hot, and the first black dude whose name came to mind.
I feel sorry for Cain, if he is actually serious and well-intentioned.
A party that tolerates birthers, racist signs at Tea Party rallies and watermelon internet jokes from Party-supported candidates will applaud him if he speaks their talking points.
They will never respect him.
A Lumpkin Resident
February 18th, 2011
1:34 pm
Actually, CT, “the notion that all black folk must think and act alike? ” is DISCRIMINATION and STEREOTYPING.
The notion that all blacks are racially inferior is RACISM.
As far as blacks in the conservative movement…
A study came out this past week that talks of blacks moving back to the south, and that Atlanta/Georgia has more black-owned businesses than just about any where else. I make presumption that most of us… be it black/white/asian/latino/etc…. really mostly want the same things: we want security, we want families, homes, we want economic opportunity, we want liberty and freedom. Given this, then as people move up the economic ladder and achieve those things, they WILL think more conservative (at least economically conservative). Nobody operating within an middle class family budget could possibly think that the deficit spending that the Democrats have imposed is a good thing. Yes, you might think that society could be more fair to the poor. But you CANNOT break the system in order to make it “fair”. That is called “killing the golden goose”. So conservatives, unlike liberals, understand that some “unfairness” is inherent in the system, and that it is and must be acceptable in order for opportunity to exist at all. Herman Cain embodies this. He has been a black businessman. He has run a company and knows that blacks DO have opportunities, and CAN take control of their own destiny. He also knows that the system is fundamentally broken, and that breaking it further will not help anyone… much less the poor.
willie lynch
February 18th, 2011
1:44 pm
A Lumpkin Resident
February 18th, 2011
1:34 pm
So conservatives, unlike liberals, understand that some “unfairness” is inherent in the system, and that it is and must be acceptable in order for opportunity to exist at all.
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That sounds like Mubarak’s argument.
MC
February 18th, 2011
1:45 pm
I think it’s interesting that people thing Cain is a token for the GOP. I’m not a big fan of Bush, but you have to admit he had a VERY diverse administration with Condi Rice and Colin Powel. I don’t see any influential visible minorities in Obama’s administration. It looks to me like he works for the Clinton and Warren Buffet and most likely owes them something. Cain seems to be self-made.
MC
February 18th, 2011
1:49 pm
willie lynch February 18th, 2011 1:44 pm: I pay my mortgage with interest and can only afford 1 child. My neighbor is a sigle mom with 6 kids in free section 8 sponsored housing. The landlord told me that he collects his rent directly from the government. I accept that things aren’t fair even with ‘liberal’ social programs.
SaveOurRepublic
February 18th, 2011
1:50 pm
Cain’s a sharp, successful man & he seems like a nice, approachable fella. However, he strikes me as “conservative lite”. He never gets beyond superficial, softball points on his WSB radio show. In my estimation, I’d said he’s a standard NeoCON (ala – Gingrich, Romney & Huckabee…all Globalist puppets). Out of the ‘12 GOP candidates (potential or otherwise), Dr.Ron Paul is (far & away) the most Constitutionally adherent.
MC
February 18th, 2011
1:55 pm
SaveOurRepublic February 18th, 2011 1:50 pm: I like Ron Paul too. Very fascinating person. I’m not sure if American’s are smart enough to see value his accomplishments. I think most Americans will thing he’s too old (like they did McCain – which us unfortunate). Palin is not polished enough, Mitt will have trouble with healthcare (since Obama basically stole is policy); plus Americans don’t really like Mormans unless you’re the Osmonds, and Rudy & Newt have too much baggage. Huckabee is probably not charasmatic enough to beat Obama.
Thulsa the Doom
February 18th, 2011
1:57 pm
Well, since we are talking about race and the way black conservatives are treated by those trying to keep them on the groupthink plantation…
Yep. I just got through watching all the video clips of the liberal white people protesting judge Thomas last week. Otay- heeeere we go!!
Video 1 of older white man saying Clarence Thomas should be put to work in the fields- Nice slave analogy old feller.
Video 2 of a liberal middle aged white woman saying judge Thomas AND his wife also should be strung up and hung- niiiiiice, real nice lady there.
Video 3 of a younger liberal white women saying Judge Thomas should have his toes cut off and fed to him.
Video 4 of a young liberal white couple saying once again that Judge Thomas should be lynched. Real nice folk them liberal yuppies. Yesssssirrreeee.
What did you say Cynthia? Go- “I find that kind of criticism of black conservatives deeply offensive because it presumes that they are not entitled to think differently. Isn’t that the essence of racism — the notion that all black folk must think and act alike? Don’t racists make that very assumption?”- Cynthia T.
Right on Cynthia. Right on. And who is it that presumes to tell black people how they are supposed to think? Who are these racists making that assumption about a whole group of people???
If you answered Liberal White people then correct you are!!!!!!!!
willie lynch
February 18th, 2011
1:59 pm
MC
February 18th, 2011
1:49 pm
willie lynch February 18th, 2011 1:44 pm: I pay my mortgage with interest and can only afford 1 child. My neighbor is a sigle mom with 6 kids in free section 8 sponsored housing. The landlord told me that he collects his rent directly from the government. I accept that things aren’t fair even with ‘liberal’ social programs.
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I’m insulted. MC, you should be more discerning.
willie lynch
February 18th, 2011
2:02 pm
Thulsa the Doom
February 18th, 2011
1:57 pm
You’re getting sloppy. Old habits die hard.
MC
February 18th, 2011
2:08 pm
Willie – Didn’t mean to insult you. I was just pointing out that there is ‘unfairness’ in any type of political philosophy. I agree with most social programs, but when you live right next to section 8, it is frustrating to watch as you struggle to pay your own way.
Big D
February 18th, 2011
2:09 pm
Head line:
Idiot Black and white liberals eat themselves…can no longer be found.
Wishful thinking.
Thulsa the Doom
February 18th, 2011
2:13 pm
Willie,
Sloppy? Where? If so I’ll be sure to up my game just for you! Actually I’ld have to lower my game to make it more even. After all I’m all about “fairness”.
Big D
February 18th, 2011
2:17 pm
Head line:
Atlanta among the most violent of all American cities.
A little common sense here…Atlanta has been run by Liberal Blacks for 38 years…I believe it’s time to get your head out of the sand or where ever it may be.
A Herman Cain type for the country and Atlanta just may give Blacks a chance in an ever degrading environment…it should be painfully obvious that Liberal Democrats in any form are just plain wrong.
Pablo
February 18th, 2011
2:26 pm
The column referred to by CT proves once again that whenever you cannot defend your position by its merits, you resort to gratuitous attacks. I would personally would vote for Herman Cain, based upon his qualifications (which probably exceed the ones over 90% of the current crop of politicians have), and his ability to see a problem for what it is and offer a solution that actually makes sense. He would certainly would be a much better President that the last 3 or 4 in my opinion…
buck@gon
February 18th, 2011
2:35 pm
Memo to: Cindo
From: Jay Jar Bookman
Dude! You’re all like so “civil” today. Oooooh! I’m like so “you’re hypocritical, dudes”.
I’m like really not aware of what the tenth amendment says, or the history of civilization, the meaning of marriage, the laws of economics, the fact that much higher taxes leads to like totally no economic growth, the science of global warming, but you know, I’m all for hope and change. I’m all for changing it dude.
Anyone who believes in these things is in the way of change anyway, I mean like TOTALLY, so you know, screw them! You get in my way I’ll call you a hypocrite all day, dude. I mean I’d love my kids if they were like, gay, (giggles) and all, but if they go Republican…. Oh man, I’d be like, “hey little dudes, I took care of you for like 18 years for eff***ing FREE. How do you think people today can survive without that kind of support?” That’s why I’m like todally down with HIM.
I’m like completely and totally down with the President, ya know. To prove it, I always post my blues songs mix on Fridays. You know, like I’m really white, but, ….well, I mean like really really really white, I can hang with you. I have street cred.
Do you think I have street cred?
Anyway umm. …..
I’m not going to like be there tonight, but I heard like maybe, you know, one of the assistant junior deputies to the CDC hangs out there sometimes on Fridays, and he’s you know, like only thirteen or so steps away from the Pres and all, so I don’t know, if you want to go, it’d be like, “hey, I’m Cynthia, I really love your boss. Can we hang? I’ll buy your drinks tonight and I give great neck rubs. Do you like get to ride on AirForce One.” CC, I’m sorry, but I forgot to ask him if he does or not. I know you told me to find someone…. Hey maybe you could network. Anyway, I’m not sure if I have his email anymore, but hey it’s cool. Gotta go. See ya Monday …… boss. (giggles again).
Later Duuuude!
Thulsa the Doom
February 18th, 2011
2:38 pm
Big D,
It could be worse. Could be like Detroit where the city has become so overwhelmed with urban decay and lawlessness that the city has basically abandoned several areas and neighborhoods and pulled out police and fire protection. Its the first time in history for a major US city to try to decrease its size.
There are even worse cities as examples though like Flint, MI., Newark, NJ. where murder, sky high overall crime, horrendous school systems, etc. are all the norm. The common denominator in all of them? They have been run into the ground by liberal Dem administrations over many years-the corrupt Kwame Brown and Barack Obama types leading them as opposed to honest, successful men like Herman Cain.
Rockerbabe
February 18th, 2011
2:45 pm
I started listening to Cain several months ago when the talk show migrated over to FM. I have found him to be a smooth talker who is in favor of big business at everyone’s expense! He never met a businessman, no matter how low-down that he didn’t think should be given all the profits he can greedly take! Employees be damned. And, he is educated well enough to convicely to make his case, no matter how unfair. It is a shame that he never gave President Obama a chance. You can have him, I have moved back over to musicville and NPR – more balanced and less crazy.
Paddy O
February 18th, 2011
2:52 pm
So, the annointed one demonstrates a gross lack of leadership, and we get an article about Herman Cain? This is what is called a white wash in professional journalism circles. Where is CT’s outrage over the pathetic budget offered up by the epitome of tax/borrow and spend liberalism this country has ever seen? Obama has not backbone, and is simply collecting a check and traveling the world on our dime.
Paddy O
February 18th, 2011
2:53 pm
Thulsa – there is also one other common thread, they suffered racial riots in the mid to late 60’s.
SaveOurRepublic
February 18th, 2011
2:58 pm
MC @ 1:55 PM EST @ 2/18 – Totally agreed. The controlled “mainstream” media loves to demonize strict Constitutionalists like Dr.Paul. Far too many of the populace buy into the rhetoric spewed by shills on both sides of the aisle. I also like Dr.Chuck Balwin (the ‘08 CP candidate), but he doesn’t have the name recognition like Dr.Paul has. Let’s hope & pray more of the populace awakens!
buck@gon
February 18th, 2011
3:05 pm
CC,
Dude, I was totally wrong. I’d say, “hey little dudes, I took care of you for like 32 years…..”
That’s more like it.
buck@gon
February 18th, 2011
3:07 pm
Hey CC,
I’m like totally out of here, dude. I’ll clock out after I get home.
See ya!
JayJar
Kamchak
February 18th, 2011
3:15 pm
OH NOES! IT’S THE DREADED MAINSTREAM MEDIA CARD!
MC
February 18th, 2011
3:16 pm
Rockerbabe February 18th, 2011 2:45 pm: Do you work for an ‘evil’ corporation? If not, are you smart enough to own your own business and employee people with an above average wage? Or..do you work at all?
Gm
February 18th, 2011
3:19 pm
Are you conservatves Rep, loving these idiots you put in office back in Nov? where are th jobs they promise you idiots who voted for them?
Once again middle class whites get played by the rich, those people in Ws voted for those idiots, now look at them.
Continue to hate the President and see how far in the toilet the Rep take us.
MC
February 18th, 2011
3:20 pm
Rockerbabe February 18th, 2011 2:45 pm: I was also wondering if you’ve ever taken a intro business class. CEOs work for ’shareholders’. It is their fiduciary duty. If you own stocks or a pension plan, this is who Cain has worked for. If the company makes money, the business grows and they hire more people. This is how America works. You can’t sustain a country on ‘government’ programs becuase they don’t ‘produce’ anything.
james
February 18th, 2011
3:26 pm
is anyone else considering the “mouse over to a Disney location”. I think the conspiracy here is that the AJC is referring to Cain as a cartoon character. Rather libelous.
Paddy O
February 18th, 2011
4:11 pm
Gm- please comment on the pervasive black poverty, and who is to blame for that. I did not vote Repubs in in November, because government DOES NOT create jobs. I voted them in because I want to cost of government lowered. If they can’t do it, I’ll find a patriotic TEA party candidate that surely will – HOW? Eliminate EITC, terminate all foreign investment/assistance (Egypt receiving 1.5 billion to buy arms), terminate all non-dedicated funding federal grants, reduce the military (do we need 12 aircraft carriers?). Raise revenue via import tariffs, prohibit the issuance of visas to terrorism sponsoring countries, etc. Genuine leadership addressing the problems in society, not this faker from Illinois.
Kamchak
February 18th, 2011
4:13 pm
CEOs work for ’shareholders’. It is their fiduciary duty.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Good one!
Rockerbabe
February 18th, 2011
6:37 pm
MC: actually, I have an MBA and a CFP from an accredited university and 25 years experience as a manager and clinical profession in the healthcare field
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But what you don’t understand, or maybe you do, but will not admit it, is that greed is the common demoniator. It is all fine and good to make a buck for the stockholders and get some for yourself as a manager, but when one constantly disregards the workers, who are ultimately the consumers, you have the current situation, of a jobless recovery, coupled with poor prospects for a better future. You have greed and avarice run amok in the banking and finance industry and that is what caused most of the current economic meltdown we are dealing with at the moment.
Hermet Cain, in the 3 months or so I have listened to him is so anti worker that it is shameful. All business cycles require a number of things and among those things are workers who are often consumers. No business cycle can survive without them; but you would never know it from the way the GOP and its’ mouthpieces talk.
We live in America, not some 3rd world country; although, if things continue the way they are, we may soon be a 3rd world country [workers with no protections, no benefits, no pensions, no opportunity for wage and salary growth or promotional growth]. Cain in my view is a supporter of the “race to the bottom” when it comes to workers and their well-being.
PS: I own a number of financial securitues as you probably do also; but I certainly do not expect the managers of these companies to screw over their employees on my behalf. There really is such a thing as “too much of a good thing” because in the end, someone always pays and it is often the person who did not reap the rewards of their labor.