What do business leaders really want?

WASHINGTON — Since capitalism is the nation’s official religion, President Obama must bow before business executives, who don’t believe he has been sufficiently fawning. It wasn’t enough for Obama to expend taxpayer funds, as his predecessor did, to save capitalism.

The president has had the effrontery to point out that free markets need sensible regulations to protect consumers from poisoned food, lead-laced toys and a reckless Wall Street — a position that has angered many among the mogul class. So, even with a roaring stock market and soaring corporate profits, Obama has been obliged to launch a charm offensive to re-assure the business executives that he’s no socialist.

This may be heresy, but here it is: The interests of Big Business and the needs of regular working Americans don’t always coincide. As just one example, General Electric CEO Jeffrey Immelt, newly appointed as the White House jobs czar, heads a company which relies increasingly on foreign markets for its profits and its workforce. Since Immelt took over in 2001, GE has shed tens of thousands of jobs here while adding tens of thousands abroad.

That trend is likely to continue, not just at GE but also at thousands of other U.S. companies as their managers find they can manufacture more cheaply abroad. They can also outsource accounting, engineering and technical support services, among others.

That’s why Obama emphasized “our generation’s Sputnik moment” in his State of the Union speech. He laid out a plan to rebuild our economic foundation with targeted spending in such areas as modernizing our infrastructure — everything from ancient sewerage to dangerous bridges to aging electric grids. “We need to out-innovate, out-educate, and out-build the rest of the world,” he said.

His call for new spending on research, education and infrastructure ought to make him the new poster child for business-friendly politics. For years, business executives have called for better public schools and more spending on highways, bridges and rail.

But Obama’s initiative also brings the backroom politics of the business lobby under scrutiny. Newer bridges and better schools may be a priority, but those issues are not as dear as keeping taxes low and keeping government regulations off the books. Emasculating the Environmental Protection Agency is more important than beating the Chinese at high-speed rail and solar panels. That’s why the business lobby spent millions last year to elect Republicans who would fight anything Obama proposed — infrastructure spending included.

That’s a bit awkward for Georgia’s business and political leaders, who have campaigned long and hard for $105 million in federal funds to deepen Savannah’s port. Now that the House has been taken over by no-new-spending, earmark-hating Republicans, where will the money come from?

“I just think it’s about priorities,” said Georgia Chamber of Commerce CEO Chris Clark. “We’re not going to Washington asking for more money, more taxes. . . The president said we’ve got to be about jobs, and this project will produce jobs all over the Southeast.”

Georgia may get the money — with help from a well-connected Democrat. Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed has gone to the White House to to promote the Savannah port. (The process would have been easier if Republicans had not campaigned against earmarks, which would have allowed local Congressmen or Senators to quietly tuck the money into the budget.)

But the Savannah ports expansion will have to survive a starve-the-beast attitude toward government endorsed by the very politicians who are most favored by the business lobby. Bashing the government may keep taxes low, but it doesn’t lay a foundation for longterm economic growth.

143 comments Add your comment

Kamchak

January 28th, 2011
3:40 pm

What do business leaders really want?

Tax cuts, what else?

Michael

January 28th, 2011
3:44 pm

Why do we need corporate welfare to dig trenches in a river? If it is economically viable to deepen the port, then build it with private money. Johnny ‘Banker’s boy’ Isakson loves to talk about less government and balanced budgets when it comes to entitlements for the ‘unwashed’. But when it comes to bailing out the bankers, handing out agribusiness welfare, and digging trenches in wet ground, he turns into a big spender.

Nothing Is Free

January 28th, 2011
4:03 pm

So the Liberal Darling Network: NBC (and C Tucker’s own MSNBC) was owned by GE who had taken thousands of jobs offshore and who’s head is appointed job czar and that’s the Republican’s fault.

Sometimes the posts here are so damned stupid that there’s just no answer to them.

This is one of those times.

willie lynch

January 28th, 2011
4:06 pm

Immelt is a repug isn’t he?

God Bless America... and no one else

January 28th, 2011
4:06 pm

Corporate Taxes = higher consumer prices and decreased competitiveness with foreign goods.

Subsidies = Corporate welfare

Get government out of business altogether.

arnold

January 28th, 2011
4:13 pm

If business wants to continue receiving their welfare support payments, they should be willing to undergo regulatory scrutiny.

J. Kase

January 28th, 2011
4:17 pm

Have heard the Department of Health and Human Services have issued more than 200 exemptions—mostly to the president’s financial supporters—from some of the more burdensome provisions of the healthcare reform law. The latest exemptions appears to be Service Employees International Union SEIU. I guess everybody has friends. Oh by the way,Wall Street had a blood bath today.

ByteMe

January 28th, 2011
4:17 pm

Don’t starve the beast. Starve the politicians. It’s their fault we elected them.

Kamchak

January 28th, 2011
4:27 pm

Oh by the way,Wall Street had a blood bath today.

The DJIA lost 1.4%, the S&P lost 1.8% and you call that a bloodbath?

Someone please fetch this drama queen a fainting couch.

Tommy Maddox

January 28th, 2011
4:28 pm

What do business leaders want?

How about a leader who knows what it’s like to make payroll or an employment tax deposit?

DP

January 28th, 2011
4:29 pm

Tucker…what are you and Bookman smoking….the government can not afford to just keep spending and spending, sooner or later the money has to run out and it ran out about 7 years ago. Cut spending levels back to what they were in 2000, stop all raises, stop entitlement increases, stop everything until we get spending down to a semi-manageable level or are wanting to leave the bills for your child and her friends.

jconservative

January 28th, 2011
4:32 pm

I do not see why government needs to spend money to deepen the port at Savannah. Let the users pay for it. I do not have a single huge cargo ship scheduled to port in Savannah in the next 20 years.

So lets use my tax money to pay back the loan we are taking out to give Paris Hilton a tax cut. OK?

J. Kase

January 28th, 2011
4:37 pm

Ah Kamchak, nothing hurts my feelings more than a leg humping queen calling me a drama queen. Oh the pain, the pain. Get out much sport?

Kamchak

January 28th, 2011
4:49 pm

Ah Kamchak, nothing hurts my feelings more…

I’m thinking you’ll get over it.

Kamchak's gerbil

January 28th, 2011
4:52 pm

Kamy – what time tonight?

■ⁿ

January 28th, 2011
4:52 pm

ZZZZZZzzzzzzz….

Most boring blog in the universe.

Good lord, somehow Cynthia has managed to reach another low.

Sometime it amazes me the wasted time and effort put into simply filling up a space (”blog”) in order to get a check. :(

Alatsea

January 28th, 2011
4:54 pm

Your boy BO has regulated business to the point they are sitting on investment capital. You need to put” I am a left-wing moron” after your name if you write crap like this and not see and know the truth. Oops I forgot your a left-wing moron you don’t know what truth is.

J. Kase

January 28th, 2011
4:54 pm

Well Kamy, yes I’m already over it. I knew you were very perspective.

Alatsea

January 28th, 2011
4:56 pm

Kamchak
January 28th, 2011
4:27 pm

Oh by the way,Wall Street had a blood bath today.

The DJIA lost 1.4%, the S&P lost 1.8% and you call that a bloodbath?

Someone please fetch this drama queen a fainting couch.

That makes you happy. Oops forgot your a socialist and that was brought on by both your parents being educators so that makes your whole family happy.

Once again Have a normal day

Owl

January 28th, 2011
5:03 pm

Sputnik? Not my generation. Praising Communism is not giving me any thrills any where.

Chuck

January 28th, 2011
5:06 pm

Arnold @ 4:13
“If business wants to continue receiving their welfare support payments, they should be willing to undergo regulatory scrutiny.”

I completely agree. Subsidies and tax breaks need to be called what they are: Welfare! Just like welfare, companies should have to apply for their welfare annually, prove that they are justified in receiving welfare, and be open to regulation and audit for the duration of their receipt of said welfare.

Otherwise, companies should be accurately taxed according to their annual profits and would be entiled to an opinion regarding tax and regulation.

retired early

January 28th, 2011
5:08 pm

Glad you brought up this port deepening in Savannah.
Briefly, shipping companies used to pay a ‘use tax’ for their containers to the ‘port of first entry’…in this case Georgia. That tax would have been sufficient to fund port improvements including harbor deepening. When Chiquita Bananas appealed an audit for this tax, around 4 million dollars, the Ga legislature promptly passed a law exempting “all shipping containers coming into Georgia ports”.
Those companies ‘use’ our port and therefore, should pay for that use, as the law intended.
Now, once again the taxpayers will foot the bill…all in the name of competition between ports. Most other states continue to collect this tax. Big trucks continue to pay ‘extra’ use taxes to DOT because their trucks are largely responsible for road damage. Someone please tell me what’s the difference…entitling these shipping companies to their exemption. This mentality in Ga is the reason we are in the financial mess. Eliminate ALL exemptions…budget balanced.

Keep up the good fight!

January 28th, 2011
5:09 pm

Ahh, the Palinistas now claim that when we lost the space race which bankrupted USSR (wait, I thought Ronnie had something to do with that) and mention the US reaction to Sputnik it is praising communism. May not be your generation but you could learn real history instead of looking to Snowbillie Snooki for your talking points.

False Evidence Appearing Real (FEAR)

January 28th, 2011
5:14 pm

“Snowbillie Snooki”

I don’t care what your stripes are – that is FUNNY!

Nothing Is Free

January 28th, 2011
5:16 pm

Companies that give jobs to the population, getting tax breaks: BAD

Individuals that set on their fat asses, haven’t worked in years pumping out babies: GOOD

Welcome to the Liberal Land Amusement park.

Good is bad. Up is down,

Step right up. It’s all about Hope and Change.

Nothing Is Free

January 28th, 2011
5:18 pm

False Evidence Appearing Real (FEAR)

Almost as funny as some of the names I’ve heard Obozo called.

Of course it is hateful and ignorant to call the idiot i9n the White House names.

He’s special, don’t-cha-know!!

Gm

January 28th, 2011
5:20 pm

Whats new about this, Rep have been hypocrites for years about spending, they only have concerns when Demo are in office.
typical Rep line, we need to stop spending, could you please help our ports with a bail out.

Ranger

January 28th, 2011
5:21 pm

“…GE has shed tens of thousands of jobs here…”

They’ll be OK, Congress just extended their welfare benefits by another 13 months.

Nothing Is Free

January 28th, 2011
5:23 pm

So according to Gm and Retired Early, it would have been good for Georgia to make our largest port less competitive.

This is what happens when the school system is put in the hands of liberals: one of the worst school systems in the civilized world.

Kamchak

January 28th, 2011
5:26 pm

Most boring blog in the universe.

Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out, meat.

False Evidence Appearing Real (FEAR)

January 28th, 2011
5:26 pm

NIF: Intelligent thinkers understand the difference between funny and malevolent.

Thulsa Doom

January 28th, 2011
5:26 pm

Cynthia Tucker woke up this morning, turned on the tv, saw the rioting in the streets in Egypt and exclaimed to herself- “What has Sarah Palin done now?”

Keep up the good fight!

January 28th, 2011
5:29 pm

FEAR — the key to your statement will never be comprehended by those it was directed at. Intelligent thinkers

The market

January 28th, 2011
5:32 pm

Kamchump doesn’t think that the S&P losing nearly 2% of its entire value is a single day is a blood bath? What a moron

markie mark

January 28th, 2011
5:33 pm

Dadgum CT…may I make a point on your endless criticism of outsourcing jobs? yes, I wish it wouldn’t happen. But the simple truth is that the largest potential markets for our goods are now overseas. Lets take one example – Caterpillar heavy construction equipment. According to a news report I saw, 49% of their sales last year was in China. 25 years ago, China was not booming and did not have the educated workforce they have today. So if they have a large portion of sales in India or China (the two booming economies in terms of potential in the world today) why in hell would they want to build here in the US and ship almost half of their production overseas half a world away?(or even 15%, 20%, etc). They do what any smart business IS going to do. They built the newer plants close to their customers, and have the an educated population so they dont have to ship Americans over as all major US companies had to do in the past. Do you really think all US companies would be posting record profits if only, or primarily, the American citizen was their consumer? It just doesn’t work that way anymore. And yes, some companies have and will take advantage, and we should not give tax breaks for companies to go overseas for whatever reason. But you do a disservice to your readers when you dont bother to give legitimate reasons for this trend instead of just taking your “capitalism is evil” approach.

retired early

January 28th, 2011
5:33 pm

Nothing is free

These companies use our port because it is logistically cost effective…all other states collect this tax…so what exactly is your point…you…the taxpayer… are paying for their ‘use’ of our port. I thought you were against ‘higher individual taxes’.

False Evidence Appearing Real (FEAR)

January 28th, 2011
5:33 pm

Keep – so true. Hope I didn’t go too far over his head.

Nothing Is Free

January 28th, 2011
5:34 pm

False Evidence Appearing Real (FEAR)

Of course:

Anything can be said about a Republican, especially Ms Palin. That’s been OK’d for all the intelligent people. That goes on the list of all other Republicans and Christians.

That’s of course for all the intelligent people. (The people who are so friggin’ stupid that they think that walking goose-step with what they are told makes them intelligent)

Malevolent is anything that is said about Democrats by those people who dare to think for themselves and not walk the goose step. Don’t those people understand how good it is that the government gains lots more power over our dumb little freedoms? What is freedom when the “intelligent” people know what’s best for everyone.

You intelligent people are so smart. After all, look at what intelligent people have done to the US economy. It’s really good that so many millions have lost their jobs.

You intelligent guys. Gosh, maybe some day i’ll start acting like a lemming, then I’ll be smart like you.

yuzeyurbrain

January 28th, 2011
5:38 pm

The even more basic hypocrisy is why the Federal govt. should help Savannah and Georgia over, for example, Charleston or Jacksonville?? Or why should govt. get involved at all? Pure capitalist theory would seem to dictate that private money be raised to build port facilities where economic logic points and where these private economic interests can make their best profit.

carlosgvv

January 28th, 2011
5:39 pm

If the interests of Big Business and the needs of regular working Americans are at odds, you don’t have to be a genius to know which group the politicans, especially Republicans, will cater to. I’ts no accident that we have the best Congress money can buy.

False Evidence Appearing Real (FEAR)

January 28th, 2011
5:39 pm

“then I’ll be smart like you”…

Then you better get started darlin – until then – have a wonderful weekend.

Nothing Is Free

January 28th, 2011
5:40 pm

retired early

Ports all over the east coast compete for business. These fees are constantly being manipulated by every port in the country. As a tax payer, that works great for me. More ships port in Savannah, more state taxes, more taxes paid by more truckers who bring the goods inland. It’s called capitalism. You know, what we used to have before 2008.

This may come as a shock to you, but some people might see the tax income from more business in those ports as being more than the port fees.

Nothing Is Free

January 28th, 2011
5:41 pm

False Evidence Appearing Real (FEAR)

So you aren’t even smart enough to recognize satire. What a surprise. A dumb friggin liberal that thinks they are smart. Who would have thunk it?

God Bless America... and no one else

January 28th, 2011
5:43 pm

To all you Palinphobics – what does she have to do with this topic?

Keep up the good fight!

January 28th, 2011
5:46 pm

FEAR, walking erectus at ground level is far over his head…but you’ll soon told to control your emotions (a continually recycled insult directed a people who disagree with nonsensical absurdity) used earlier today at 3:33 or something about drug use (another common theme already used today also at 2:43)

We can see that someone is already throwing in goose stepping references and a rant beause you have a sense of humor. Tick, tick, tick.

Thulsa Doom

January 28th, 2011
5:47 pm

After lamenting the Palin induced rioting in the streets of Egypt Cynthia Tucker then turned her attention to the markets only to see the Dow was down 1.5% and S&P was down 1.8% in one day. And Cynthia thought to herself- ” Michelle Bachman had a hand in this. I just know it!”

Scout

January 28th, 2011
5:47 pm

“What do business leaders really want?”

Obama back in Chicago organizing communities and sipping coffee in the living room of his convicted terrorist friends.

Nothing Is Free

January 28th, 2011
5:48 pm

God Bless America… and no one else

Palin is on the “approved to hate list”

When they can’t think of anything intelligent to say, they go after Palin. And considering how seldom liberals say anything intelligent . . . .

Nothing Is Free

January 28th, 2011
5:51 pm

Ahh. The twit who accuses other of raping women and killing family members is giving a sermon about the emotional control of others.

Friday night. Let me guess. You will be alone, blogging your little nonsense.

It’s not my fault that you are a loser, Pal. Get your nose out of my ass.

Kamchak

January 28th, 2011
5:52 pm

It’s not my fault that you are a loser, Pal. Get your nose out of my ass.

Oh, the irony.

Nothing Is Free

January 28th, 2011
5:53 pm

Kammy

Internet tough.

Gotta love it.

LOL!!

Nothing Is Free

January 28th, 2011
5:59 pm

Kammy, Keep up

You girls have fun tonight. Be sure to stop by Jay’s music night. Hey maybe you can cyber dance reeeeal slow and close. it’s the closest either one of you will get to having another human touching you.

I’ll back to the house early so I’ll check in and make sure you are not threatening other posters like you usually do.

You girls have fun. No tongues!!!

Keep up the good fight!

January 28th, 2011
6:03 pm

Nonsense is Free, child. Reading is fundamental. I did not make any such accusation. I asked why you did not deny that you did not rape or kill as your role model Beck suggests. Still have not seen the denials but I know that parody is one of those things that takes intelligent thinkers — so its clearly been lost on you.

Now go away or I shall taunt you another time

retired early

January 28th, 2011
6:03 pm

nothing is free

Capitalism….so foreign companies shipping their goods manufactured abroad should be exempt from a ‘use tax’ because they promote ‘jobs’ in this country…actually our trade imbalance suggest just the opposite…if you want to exempt domestic companies…shipping American made goods abroad, fine. But these foreign companies should never have been given that exemption.

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

January 28th, 2011
6:06 pm

When the socialists at the AJC don’t like the reality of the news, they don’t report, instead they spin it up into a big fat lie-

Your real headline

Neil Abercrombie Admits No obozo Birth Records In Hawaii

The Urinal alternate universe storyline

Bill proposes $100 fee for Obama birth record -Urinal

Yeah, just as soon as they “find” it.

Notice how they call it “record” and not certificate?

Keep up the good fight!

January 28th, 2011
6:10 pm

Retired early….the users of 400 pay a toll for the roadway but the users of the port do not. You are right. There are some definite issues in the underlying theories.

Kamchak

January 28th, 2011
6:16 pm

Get Real

January 28th, 2011
6:24 pm

“Since capitalism is the nation’s official religion, President Obama must bow before business executives, who don’t believe he has been sufficiently fawning”

Good Lord….what dribble.

BTW, ObamaCare waivers are now over 700 and counting…

Keep it up CT until their heads explode

January 28th, 2011
6:28 pm

markie mark@5:33 pm

It does make complete sense for companies like Caterpiller to have factories closer to their sales.
It also makes sense to tax those products in the country made/sold.

By the same token it makes sense to raise the tariffs on goods imported into the US from countries using unfair trade practices.

kayaker 71

January 28th, 2011
6:37 pm

What do business leaders want? To be left alone.

F. Sinkwich

January 28th, 2011
6:58 pm

What do business leaders want?

Cheap energy, of which we have an abundance.

No Marxists in the White House implementing job-killing regulations.

No Obamacare.

Repeal of the dumb-ass financial regulations bill.

The death of Freddie and Fannie.

A federal government that cares more about jobs than windmills.

That’s just for starters.

Soames

January 28th, 2011
7:55 pm

First I would like to point out that most States do not have ‘matching funds’ so they haven’t been able to take advantage of some of the stimulus package. Secondly, the first stimulus did not portion enough of that money to infrastructure spending. Google how much China spent on infrastructure last year…crazy huh? The President is repeating a lot of the things he said two years ago….

Regarding multinational corporations: some people are kicking around the idea of allowing multinationals to expatriate their profits back to the US tax free since it had already been taxed once. The money that comes back would go into infrastructure bonds that the government could use to repair our crumbling infrastructure. Over time the companies would be allowed to draw that money back avter the economy has recovered and the government has recouped that cash in tax revenue. This is similar to the war bonds of another era.

Our trade imbalance needs to be addressed and I’m not supporting any politician (regardless of political affiliation) that puts the interest of multinational corporations in front of the People. Just call me a special interest spectator at this point.

now back to your partisan bickering……

Soames

January 28th, 2011
7:57 pm

Currency manipulators need to be taxed accordingly. Play by the WTO rules that were agreed to…and how about some reciprocity for a change rather than a big pay-for-play scheme (China of course).

Drifter

January 28th, 2011
8:01 pm

Business leaders aren’t any different from your average citizen. They want tax cuts while feeding from the government trough at every opportunity.

midtownguy

January 28th, 2011
8:07 pm

What you need is “excessive government spending” what I need is “an essential public expenditure.”

Dick Hertz

January 28th, 2011
8:07 pm

Golly conservatives are barking at themselves in the mirror dumb, aren’t they?
Just figuring out that the GOP is crooked and butch-talking but closeted country club CCC types? Democrats work for the same boss but aren’t mean about it unless they have to be? And the Tea Party is owned by the same people who pay the GOP. Who are they ? Big business and inherited money aristocrats who can afford to buy political favors from politicians we elect. The same people who give you all your opinions.

Soames

January 28th, 2011
8:15 pm

Mr Hertz,

I believe Unions buy a lot of Democratic seats every election cycle…just saying. I believe there are some ex-Goldman employees on the staff in the White House as well.

Politics is politics and until there are public funded elections, you’re not going to see any changes to the politics as usual.

bxnyc

January 28th, 2011
8:51 pm

I read this blog as often as time allows and I’m always struck by the daily rightwing posters who always attack Ms. Tucker with innuendos plattitudes and downright bigotry. Obviously you believe that the region of the country you live in insulates you. This lady has you all wrapped into small packages, Obviously you dont get it that your small mindedness on the internet is not limited to your insular southern (Ga.) community. Not only does the rest of the country read your shallow comments but so does the rest of the world. Believing in american exceptionalisim is the same thing as saying the rest of the world doesn’t exist.You have been fooled by rightwing pundits(I wont dignify them by name)as well as politicans who only want your vote as well as your hate/dislike(pick your poison one and the same) of the current president and your fear of the changing demographics & dynamics in the country. You’re fighting a losing battle simply because the twentysomethings dont buy your BS. I fully expect vitriolic responses which will only confirm my assessment. Oh,by the way, please dont use the warmed over attempts at racial superiority, its already been overdone. Have a good night.

JKL2

January 28th, 2011
8:56 pm

SIEG HEIL OBAMA. All hail the messiah. Bow before your Savior. Sieg Heil.

Is that better CT?

Lil' Barry Bailout

January 28th, 2011
9:06 pm

How can all these problems have occurred at the same time that the government has gotten bigger, more intrusive, and more expensive?

Oops, I guess I just answered my own question.

Government is the problem.

Scout

January 28th, 2011
9:21 pm

F. Sinkwich @ 6:58

Amen !!

Scout

January 28th, 2011
9:21 pm

Ah ……………………..Obama says Egypt “should have a government that is “transparent” and doesn’t “steal from the people.”

Don’t do as I do, do as I say !

Tech Man

January 28th, 2011
9:23 pm

willie lynch

January 28th, 2011
9:33 pm

Scout, do you remember Bush and Cheney refusing to testify before the 9/11 commission seperately? I guess “do as I say” is American policy.

Mongo

January 28th, 2011
10:38 pm

Ahh the fascist/corporatists are out tonight looking for more handouts of course.
They don’t think that the businesses and the people that benefit from a deeper seaport should have to pay for it. What freeloaders.

Why should they pay for their own things when they can be handed to them like everything else in their lives? Most of these fascist trust fund babies think they should get their inheritance tax free because they worked sooo hard for it.

It’s really well past time we had another revolution. It’s fascist season.

Alatsea

January 28th, 2011
10:59 pm

The s h i t is hitting the fan for you morons. Kammy they want you to carry the flag

Scout

January 28th, 2011
11:15 pm

willie lynch :

Nope …….. and that ain’t right either. I call ‘em like I see ‘em.

But this is now ………. and just because one did before doesn’t allow the next one a free pass.

This is not like overtime in college football where each side gets a chance.

JKL2

January 28th, 2011
11:24 pm

Nothing is Free- He’s special, don’t-cha-know!!

Just don’t mention the ears because then he’ll start to cry.

JKL2

January 28th, 2011
11:39 pm

bxnyc- Believing in american exceptionalisim is the same thing as saying the rest of the world doesn’t exist

You’re right. We suck. I think we should all move back in with our parents to show what losers we really are. Mexico is going to have to build a really big fence to keep all of us from stampeding into their obviously superior country. I have a good curveball. Do you think Fidel might be able to find some room for me?

Vinny

January 29th, 2011
12:19 am

Cynthia,

As usual, you haven’t a clue as to what you are talking about.

obamalinsky

January 29th, 2011
12:40 am

The interests of government and the needs of regular working Americans don’t always coincide.

obamalinsky

January 29th, 2011
12:42 am

The interests of progressives and reality don’t always coincide.

obamalinsky

January 29th, 2011
12:46 am

mongo: What is a fascist/corporatist?

Someone with a job perhaps?

God Bless Capitalism!

Zoey

January 29th, 2011
7:22 am

Tangled, angry nonsense has become the norm for Tucker. Her favorite attacks are hateful, hypocrite racist. Do you suppose she owns a mirror?

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

January 29th, 2011
7:32 am

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama ridiculed lingering opposition to his 10-month-old health care law Friday and vowed to oppose efforts to repeal it, underscoring his commitment to his signature legislative achievement despite the new reality of a divided Congress. -Urinal

Blah, blah, blah.

The only thing “lingering” is this lame duck Kenyan National that the dummycrats elected to the US presidency, but don’t fret, we’ll get this economic terrorist outta there soon enough.

Just sayin…

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

January 29th, 2011
7:42 am

California state Sen. Leland Yee, a Democrat from San Francisco, is leading a fight in demanding an apology from the radio talk show host for what he and others view as racist and derogatory remarks against the Chinese people. -Urinal

Blah, blah, blah.

Google this- Richard Pryor – Chinese Stutter Youtube

You whiny liberals are soooooo lame.

jconservative

January 29th, 2011
8:09 am

The Deficit.

A Republican study group came up with a plan to reduce spending by $2.5 trillion over the next 10 years.

The Concord Coalition pointed out to them that those spending cuts would pay for the extension of the 2001 & 2003 tax cuts just about to the penny. Resulting in a zero change in the deficit over the next ten years.

So the study group is now working on a new plan as they want to extend the tax cuts indefinitely.

The point is everyone thinks reducing spending and reducing taxes at the same time is a piece of cake. The truth is that it is damn near impossible.

The December deal extending the tax cuts for 2 years reduces revenue $850 billion over the 2 year period. That adds about $400 billion to the deficit each year.

The FY 2009 deficit, Bush’s last, was $1.4 trillion. The FY 2010 deficit was $1.3 trillion. After the tax cut deal the projected FY 2011 deficit is up to $1.5 trillion as you learned a couple of days ago.

We will need to cut $200 billion from FY 2011 spending (and FY 2011 is already 4 months old) just to keep the deficit at the 2010 level.

Republicans were talking about a spending reduction of $100 billion for FY 2011. Now they have dropped the figure to $50 billion. A drop in the proverbial bucket.

It seems no one wants to cut spending. But maybe a challenge to congress is on the way. Rand Paul this past week introduced a bill to cut spending $500 billion in one year. Maybe this will force some action by both Democrats and Republicans.

Nunchuckka

January 29th, 2011
8:18 am

BL want cheap labor, foreign mineral rights and the US government to start more unjustified wars.

Eric

January 29th, 2011
8:18 am

You’re right, Ms. Tucker. Capitalism is the true American religion. However, I don’t with Obama that we have to outpace the rest of the world. That’s akin to the obsession with being #1 on school standardized test scores. What we need is a healthy does of protectionism for our citizens. If the constitution and role of our government is to protect American citizens, how are jobs going overseas doing that? No one anywhere has answered that question! We are expected to stay competitive. If we were, then what?

DeborahinAthens

January 29th, 2011
8:32 am

@markie mark: By your reasoning, then, all this crap we buy in our stores that comes from China (and it ALL comes from China) means that the Chinese should be building factories here in the US like crazy. You don’t know your A** from your Elbow. GE, Caterpiller, etc build factories in China because the Chinese will work for less than the equivalent of $10 a day. But their health care is paid for by the government. Their college education is paid for by the government. In this country a factory worker might make $12-14 an HOUR, and the company pays part of his or her health insurance (the rest comes out of the worker’s salary). Bottom line, baby, bottom line. To remain competitive, the salaries in China will have to come up or the salaries in the US have to come down. By the way, the corporate tax rate isn’t that big a deal. Workers’ salaries comprise the biggest piece of a corporation’s expenses.

Moronorium Personified

January 29th, 2011
8:40 am

It astounds me that people think they can summarize our leverage in terms that would only fit a lemonade stand or a Ronco QVC ad.

Then they delude themselves into thinking that anyone reads their tripe-wipe, which nobody does, because all of us are so sick of troll-wipes that I know I have gathered an army of supporters to unite against the troll-coddling nincompoop from hell: Jay Bookman.

Don’t read his stupid troll-infested blog. Just don’t. It will turn you into a moron, and then the world will suffer, (from accidentally reading your Bookman-influenced sophmoric opinion) Everything you need to keep current is right here with Tucker. She’s got the inside story and that’s why she writes with incisive insight about the outlandish outsourcing that’s ruining the American dream.

U C, the world has an American dream, and like the triad of attributes we ascribe to nature, (momentum, position, and spin) , it’s both a nightmare, a wet dream, and a heavenly vision of sheep jumping over a fence in a meadow with baby bunnies chasing butterflies through a burbling brook.

If Egypt goes full jihad and stunts our growth with exorbitant oil prices, and China puts one of it’s aircraft carriers within range of an Islamist terror strike, then the perfect storm of tragic coincidences could ignite a nookyoolar holocaust.

And then we will be both a dream and a visceral virtuality, (and a lame 3D movie).

We have to ban Bookman’s blog now.

If not, we’re finished.

DannyX

January 29th, 2011
9:15 am

How about Georgia Republicans use their own formula for the port project.

First of all, privatize the Ports Authority, contract a private company to run it, I hear Sonny Perdue is available.

Then expand the port. First you get Georgia Power to initiate a special fund, only on residential users, to fund the expansion. No use having investors waste any of their money with actual investing. The Georgia Power model is terrific.

Then when it comes time to build, they should put in 2 shipping lanes. One lane is for regular ol’ shipping. The second shipping lane will be the “Lexus Lane.” When the regular lane gets backed up with traffic all you have to do is pay extra, a lot extra, and sail on past the others using the new “Lexus Lane.”

If its a good enough business model for us regular folk here in Atlanta it should be good enough for business, right?

Georgia Republicans, why on earth would you go begging for money?

Willie

January 29th, 2011
9:48 am

Every write on the editorial website writes about serious, substantial issues except Tucker. Might her time have passed? She just does not seem to be up to the rigor of anythig more than partisan bickering and personal invective.

Jack

January 29th, 2011
9:53 am

Having made their collective bed, liberals find lying in it is uncomfortable. Maybe they should become moguls.

DannyX

January 29th, 2011
10:07 am

“Maybe they should become moguls.”

Lol. Here you are on a website owned by one of the richest liberals in the world. You are actually in a collective bed with a Cox.

Happy posting.

guy

January 29th, 2011
10:26 am

Argue all we want and nothing changes.(will get much worse) Look at what’s happening in Egypt now and be ready for what will happen here before you know it.When people get hungry and broke see what happens!!!

Kamchak

January 29th, 2011
10:34 am

We have to ban Bookman’s blog now.

Who specifically has got your goat?

Scout

January 29th, 2011
10:48 am

Headline: “U.S. Consular Worker May Face Murder Charges for Killing Pakistan Gunmen”

“Under Pakistani law one can only act in self-defense if attacked first. Merely being approached by someone wielding a gun is insufficient cause under law for the victim to pull the trigger. Also, when firing in self-defense it is only admissible to aim at non-life threatening parts of the assailant’s body, such as arms or legs.”

Well, there you go.

(Note: Islamic terrorists in Pakistan are exempted from the above provisions per the Koran.)

Moronorium Personified

January 29th, 2011
10:55 am

Bookman’s blog isn’t so much “gotcha” as it is “goatcheese”, okay? He’s a no good, self-aggrandizing, delusional sociopath who comes across as a heel, a bully, and a hillbilly. He coddles trolls, man. No, I won’t forgive and forget a troll coddler. It’s simply too much to ask.

And you know it. We all hate troll coddlers, of course, but I have a particularly tuff time with them. It keeps me up at night.

That’s why I comment so fruitfully here on the Tucker blog, so that readers will join me and abandon Bookman and his trove of invective trolls.

Aw, I don’t wanna talk about it.

Really last word

January 29th, 2011
10:55 am

CT must have stayed up a long, long time to compose this opinion as it has no cut and paste included in it.

Scout

January 29th, 2011
10:55 am

‘We need a new president!

‘Thousands of demonstrators moved through the streets of Cairo today with an oft-repeated message. “We don’t need a new government, we need a new president.”

Hey President Obama …………. they need you !

DannyX

January 29th, 2011
11:04 am

Speaking of Bookman’s blog, is he still exposing all the sock puppets?

Maybe that’s why so many hate Bookman. He exposes all the cowardly posers.

Hey Bookman……..we need you here !

Kamchak

January 29th, 2011
11:19 am

Moronorium Personified

The trolls here are the same ones that are a JB’s, they are merely using more sock-puppets Most, if not all of the troll comments here are made by 3-5 different individual. Some of JB’s crowd don’t even comment here, they just read the posts and the gossip girls run back home to JB’s and report/leg hump those they are obsessed with.

Kamchak

January 29th, 2011
11:22 am

Danny X

I don’t know that he has ever exposed anyone except those that he has banned. What he will not tolerate is one person conversing with them self via multiple sock-puppets.

quick

January 29th, 2011
11:46 am

What does CT know about “laying an economic foundaton”??..She dosen’t even understand basic business principles muchless global economies…And for you complaining about jobs going offshore…get over it…The entire world is doing it…If my company hadn’t outsourced to compete globally muchless locally it would have gone out of business and any more jobs would have been lost…we still have plenty of jobs, and have been hiring as well…just not the high labor low education jobs…we had to shift our business model but who hasn’t…If you want more companies to expand in the US then stop penalizing them for being here…The US labor market has to compete with govt subsudized ones like China and that’s not the fault of the US

Kamchak

January 29th, 2011
11:58 am

And for you complaining about jobs going offshore…get over it…The entire world is doing it…

If “the entire world is doing it,” where then are these jobs going?

Off planet?

Oy to the vey!

DannyX

January 29th, 2011
12:19 pm

No thanks quick. We can do without it.

All the major corporations from the Atlanta area are attending the “How to Outsource” seminar this week. If they aren’t trying to export good American jobs, then they are usually trying to hire illegal aliens.

In Georgia we are about to change our whole tax system so the “world economy” corporations in Georgia can stop paying taxes.

We get the attention of all our elected leaders when something like our ports need expanding. In Atlanta we get Lexus Lanes, Georgia Power Give-a-Ways, special transportation tax, elimination of state Homestead exemption, and expansion of state sales tax.

Our rich keep getting richer, our middle class keeps shrinking. Its too bad, oh well, in order for this global economy to work we need to sacrifice. Guess what the sacrifice is? The middle class.

Shucks. If Cynthia would just realize all that and shut up. The new goal of our economy is to keep our corporate masters happy. We must have made them mad. If Cynthia keeps quiet maybe they will stop reducing benefits and stuff. We must repent.

Lets show the corporations some love. The perfectly fine Georgia Dome needs to be imploded. Our local corporations would love the gesture a big fancy suite filled stadium would make.

Start showing some corporate love Atlanta.

james

January 29th, 2011
12:21 pm

real definition of “sock puppet”- someone who have never hired an employee, gives nothing to society, but seems to have endless hours to blog and complain about what others don’t do for them

Kamchak

January 29th, 2011
12:25 pm

And right on cue — the guilty dog barks first.

Too funny!

james

January 29th, 2011
12:32 pm

Nope little Kam- will employ over 100 more folks. Glad to get you involved my main man- tell me where and when. Until then enjoy your daily scrum with your weird little bed fellows to forestall the bitterness.

james

January 29th, 2011
12:34 pm

You will most likely come back with something cutesy like “an I am the queen of England”

You are construction, correct? Just bout a 2006 case cx80r hydraulic excavator- do you know how to operate or are you a poser?

Kamchak

January 29th, 2011
2:06 pm

I’m a carpenter sport, not a heavy equipment operator.

Scout

January 29th, 2011
2:15 pm

Kammy:

Have you ever hit your finger with a hammer ?

Kamchak

January 29th, 2011
2:18 pm

Have you ever hit your finger with a hammer ?

Do bears bear?

Do bees bee?

Scout

January 29th, 2011
2:29 pm

Scout

January 29th, 2011
2:32 pm

“When asked if Mubarak was a dictator, Biden responded, “Mubarak has been an ally of ours in a number of things and he’s been very responsible on, relative to geopolitical interests in the region, Middle East peace efforts, the actions Egypt has taken relative to normalizing the relationship with Israel … I would not refer to him as a dictator.”

Well, there you go.

quick

January 29th, 2011
2:35 pm

Kam..the jobs that have gone to China, India, Viet Nam etc are labor jobs that would have displaced with automation anyway…Right now outsource is more effective…You can blame the Gov and corporations all you want, but the guilty party is the consumer…period

Scout

January 29th, 2011
2:38 pm

“Georgia authorities say a mom checked her son and his friends out of school to help her rob a bank”

Now that’s what I call parental involvement !

Scout

January 29th, 2011
2:39 pm

quick :

We’re sending jobs to the Viet Cong ?

quick

January 29th, 2011
2:46 pm

you betcha jobs are going there…it’s the new China
I’s hard to compete with what is essentially slave labor…
If there was a market for an american made frying pan at 4X the cost…someone would step up and make it….”Buy Amaerican” is and was all talk….people buy on price

Kamchak

January 29th, 2011
2:48 pm

…but the guilty party is the consumer…period

Does the consumer share in the blame?

You betcha.

But when corporate profits become the be all and end all, rationalization, such as you are displaying here, and being taught in all those Econ 101 Phlogiston Economics classes becomes the excuse to play the automation/union/burdensome business tax/etc… card.

Kamchak

January 29th, 2011
2:50 pm

If there was a market for an american made frying pan at 4X the cost…someone would step up and make it…

Not familiar with the company All-Clad, are you?

quick

January 29th, 2011
2:56 pm

LOL…What do you think corporations are supposed to do…of course it is to profit as much as possible….for who???…the consumer aka stockholder that is who is demanding higher profits which includes everyone with a 401k
You can complain about it all you want but it is what it is…once China opened it borders all bets were off we could have boycotted, and protested all we wanted and it wouldn’y have stopped the momentum…Don’t blame the execs…if a corp/board of directors/stockholders are willing to pay big bucks for someone who knows how to make the profitable…whose to blame?

Scout

January 29th, 2011
2:58 pm

quick:

V.C. numba’ 10 !

quick

January 29th, 2011
3:00 pm

I apologize for the fat fingers….I just found my glasses LOL

quick

January 29th, 2011
3:03 pm

All Clad prves my point

Kamchak

January 29th, 2011
3:04 pm

All Clad prves[sic] my point

How’s that?

quick

January 29th, 2011
3:14 pm

All Clad makes a quality product that a certain market share are willing to pay extra….If a quality knock off were to show up from China at 25% the price of All Clad, which one do you think is gonna sell the most volume? All Clad will have no choice but to either outsource or lose more market share, layoff employees, and possibly go out of business
I think they are privately owned and likely may not face the same pressure a publicly owned company. I’d also be willing to bet that thet get some local tax breaks

Kamchak

January 29th, 2011
3:28 pm

All-Clad makes a world class quality product that most professionals and a good many home cooks are more than willing to pay extra for. I buy it because it is heirloom quality cookware that will last several lifetimes and I can pass it on.

I tried to purchase a 2 qt. stainless sauce pan at Cook’s Warehouse last Christmas and couldn’t because they had sold out, so it is not a small market.

I own 4 pieces and the only piece made in China is the lid for my saucier. The lid is not made using their process of sandwiching an aluminum core between two layers of stainless steel. I’m not happy about that, but I am confident that they will continue making their cook ware (minus lids) here in the U.S.

So as to your earlier point, “If there was a market for an american made frying pan at 4X the cost…someone would step up and make it…” there is one. Just because you aren’t aware of it, doesn’t mean that it is nonexistent.

quick

January 29th, 2011
3:36 pm

I didn’t say nonexistent…but All Clad is targeted market is compared to whole frying pan market..
Sooner or later China will be able to make that lid as the same quality as All Clad…Fact is China is going after the rest of the world market aka the “fat rabbit”….once that market is saturated they will go after the All Clad market and will do so on price…and they will win
Niche markets are some of the best, but they are limited by definition

Soames

January 29th, 2011
3:56 pm

DeborahinAthens @ 8:32am

When did the Chinese government start offering their workers free healthcare? When did the Chinese governemtn start subsidizing college education?

GE, Caterpillar. Disney etc. have moved into China because it is an emerging market and that’s where the next ‘boom’ will be. Of course these companies had to give up some intellectual property rights before the Chinese government allowed them access to their market which is contradictory to the WTO trade rules that the China agreed to. Also, China keeps their currency artificially devalued to subsidize their exports. By controlling their manufacturing segment and providing a broad range of subsidies to various industries, American manufacturing and the middle class are fighting a battle with one hand tied behind their backs.

It seems you are the one who doesn’t know one body part from another.

Back to your partisan bickering…blahblahblah

Kamchak

January 29th, 2011
4:44 pm

Back to your judgmental throne…blahblahblah

quick

January 29th, 2011
4:49 pm

To Soames point…We are teaching them how to kick our butt…whether it be infrnged IP,
sharing confidential mfg practices, or just plain backwards engineering….because of the flood of out sourcing to China they have been able to leap frong many technology gaps compared to other countries…Idia, Viet Nam, Korea, South America, etc have taken notice of China’s booming income influx…so they are opening up to the same…which is kinda good…China is now having to face competition…It will be interesting to see who can bankrupt who first…like Reagans plan to bankrupt the USSR for democracy a similar model could be said for China….why do you think they groused of our recent dollar devaluation….they have to devalue their own even more

quick

January 29th, 2011
5:00 pm

Kam…even further All Clad likely outsouced the ld to China to offset costs…they obviously know where their price point is or they would have made it in PA and raised the price or lost margin…I’ll bet they are on 8% ish margins now…
Now fuel cost really start to add in…I saw a 20lb cast iron weight (barbell type) with a made in China on it…surely it cost more to ship it than make it…If fuel goes increases so will the cost to ship a container…and possible return to some balance…on the backs of consumers of course

Zoey

January 29th, 2011
6:48 pm

Enter your comments here

Paddy O

January 29th, 2011
7:02 pm

the solution is tariffs. excise tariff on a per unit basis & a “wage equalization tariff”. You would also need to bleach your union contracts, such that much of the resource wasting union ego is removed from the contract, to make American workers competitive but not poor. The key is to balance the US budget so you can reduce taxes on corporate America, and the populace. It is very ironic that Obama appointed Immelt, who has off shored a whole bunch of jobs – did the PResident even review GE business practices, or would that have required too much concentration from ADHD Barack?

Keep it up CT until their heads explode

January 29th, 2011
7:13 pm

Also the director of IT for the WH is of Indian descent. Kinda sends the wrong message to all the unemployed IT workers whose jobs were offshored or were replaced with Indian and Chinese visa holders.

Kamchak

January 29th, 2011
7:29 pm

You would also need to bleach your union contracts, such that much of the resource wasting union ego is removed from the contract, to make American workers competitive but not poor.

I thought that the key to U.S. prosperity and job growth is through small businesses. How many small businesses are unionized?

Paddy O

January 29th, 2011
7:54 pm

Kam – they define a “small business” as having less than 500 employees. You need major factories here. Also, if it is a genuinely small plant (less than 50), I would be skeptical of the union presence. I believe neither Kia nor Honda are union shops, as is Delta. In NJ the cashiers at your grocery stores are unionized.

Paddy O

January 29th, 2011
7:56 pm

My brothers data entry job – which dealt with retirement accounts & a whole lot of personal data – was off shored to India – they told him they could hire 3 folks in India to replace him at the same cost. The business he was employed at was started by a US Senator.

Paddy O

January 29th, 2011
8:05 pm

quick – the large increase in container freight shipped from China I believe is what has diesel fuel to be higher than regular gas prices, which is an abnormality. REsource depletion wise, it makes no sense to manufacture a product in China & ship it to GA. Products for domestic use should be produced domestically. HOwever, comparative advantage is why BMW & Mercedes make their cars here in the south – are they union shops??

Keep it up CT until their heads explode

January 29th, 2011
8:15 pm

In Germany BMW and Mercedes cannot import ANY parts for their vehicles. The tariffs are extremely high for ANY imported good that is also produced in Germany.
That is one of the reasons they still have a sound manufacturing base.

Keep it up CT until their heads explode

January 29th, 2011
8:16 pm

Also how much does it cost to ship the EMPTY containers somewhere since we don’t seem to be exporting many goods