A conservative tells Obama what to say tonight

David Frum, a former speechwriter for George W. Bush, is a talented writer and a committed conservative. He is best known for coining the phrase “axis of evil,” which Bush used in this 2002 State of the Union speech to describe Iran, Iraq and North Korea.
In this month’s Esquire magazine, Frum offers the speech that he thinks President Obama should give tonight.

In my favorite part, Obama (using Frum’s words) offers a sharp retort to the critics who insist he has put the country on the path to “socialism.” Frum is a conservative, but he lives in the reality-based universe, where facts matter.

Here is an excerpt:

When my administration arrived in office in January 2009, we confronted the worst economic collapse since the 1930s. We did our best to estimate the depth of the crisis ahead. We got it wrong. As bad as we thought the recession would be, it was worse. We prepared for a fifty-year flood. We got a hundred-year flood. We thought our measures would cap unemployment at about 8 percent. Despite our measures, unemployment has reached almost 10 percent. Unemployment remains almost 10 percent.

The economists tell us that the recovery measures instituted by this administration have achieved dramatic results. Two of America’s most esteemed researchers — one an advisor to John McCain’s presidential campaign, the other formerly a top advisor to President Clinton — have crunched the numbers. They agree that our recovery plan stopped the free fall in the U. S. economy, saved the world from a new Great Depression, and added 2.7 million new jobs.

These are powerfully positive results. But not positive enough. So we need to do more — and we need Congress to join with this administration as partners in the all-important mission of economic recovery.

We can see the future of a better economy already emerging.

Over the past twelve months, we have created more than one million net new jobs in the private sector — while government employment has shrunk by more than 250,000.

Corporate profitability has reached record highs, meaning that companies can afford to hire as demand revives.

Including dividends, the stock market has gained more than 10 percent this year.

If this is “socialism,” what would capitalism look like? (emphasis added)

I hope Obama says something very much like that. And, for an added touch of bi-partisanship, he can credit Frum.

529 comments Add your comment

granny godzilla

January 25th, 2011
8:05 am

Good Morning Ms. T.

Great piece.

I sure do miss real Republicans.

JKL2

January 25th, 2011
8:13 am

Ron Burgandy, I mean President Obama will say whatever the teleprompter says.

I sure do miss real leadership.

granny godzilla

January 25th, 2011
8:20 am

JKL2

I couldn’t agree more.

The Republican leadership has really caved to the far right wing and it has done your party and this nation no good.

Cheers for Mr. Frum.

Rufus

January 25th, 2011
8:22 am

Granny two bits, the left is so far to the extreme they’re falling off the edge. Wake up !

I ♥ Cereal

January 25th, 2011
8:26 am

When you make this about Democrats Vs. Republicans, you’ve already missed the point.

granny godzilla

January 25th, 2011
8:28 am

Rufus

Been up working for hours…no worries mate.

If the far left is falling off the edge you can bet they’ll land on the soft cushion of the far right that beat them over the edge.

T-Town

January 25th, 2011
8:31 am

All President Obama has to do is to tell it like it is, it is what it is. No adding any spin or blame and I’ll be impressed.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

January 25th, 2011
8:32 am

I don’t think David Frum is a conservative except when compared to a Marxist.

granny godzilla

January 25th, 2011
8:34 am

Rags

I don’t think you’re a Republican when compared to Teddy or Ike or Barry.

Good Grief

January 25th, 2011
8:36 am

“Frum is a conservative, but he lives in the reality-based universe, where facts matter.” I love that line, CT. You make it seem as though no conservative cares about facts or reality. You know there are plenty of liberals in that boat with the conservatives.

Also, this speech makes note of government employment going down by 250,000. That seems well and good, but what about when we reach a fully instituted ObamaCare with it’s loads of new committees and bureaucracies? Or does that not count?

Rufus

January 25th, 2011
8:36 am

C.T. he lives in a reality based universe ?
Last time I checked we all do, I mean sure I dream when I sleep, but every morning I awake and I know I have real life issues, I know I see several friends , relatives, former coworkers and others who are continuing to suffer because the person elected to office has not done anything to encourage businesses to hire. I awake to hearing your precious leader cow down to the Unions, or some foreign nation, or the great O blunder telling Republicans to get in back of the bus.
Very inspiring huh ?

willie lynch

January 25th, 2011
8:41 am

If President Obama is Ron Burgandy the repugnican leadership must be Sam I am.

granny godzilla

January 25th, 2011
8:42 am

Rufus….

“telling Republicans to get in back of the bus”

except that isn’t really what he said is it?

I can only think you altered the statement because for some reason you feel you belong in the back of the bus. Why do you feel that way?
While I surely wouldn’t give you the keys, you could sit up front with me anytime.

willie lynch

January 25th, 2011
8:43 am

Why is there a dispute with CT on this article? If you have a problem it should be with Frum. Is he wrong or is he right?

Ragnar Danneskjöld

January 25th, 2011
8:46 am

On the substance of our hostess’s essay, under what circumstance does increasing the footprint of government constitute an advance for free markets? Indeed those are opposing principles.

Just as the Hoover-Roosevelt interventionism delayed the recovery from the 1930 economic collapse for at least 15 years, so has the Bush-Obama interventionism delayed the recovery from the 2008 economic collapse. Nothing that our activist-government has done in the past two years serves any prophylactic purpose related to the causes of the 2008 collapse.

The 2008 collapse, usually (and wrongly) blamed on the collapse of the housing bubble, has stimulated much government regulation of areas wholly irrelevant to the causes of the broader economic collapse.

The broader economic collapse is entirely attributable to the then foreseeable election of a anti-business leftist Congress and an anti-business leftist President, both predisposed to raid private capital to supply cash to favored businesses (mostly “green” companies, or companies making a false claim of same such as GE.) That general business collapse – due to anticipated higher expenses for energy (cap and tax), labor (card check and ObamaCare), and taxes (”the Bush tax cuts are dead”) – was also the cause of the timing of the collapse of the housing bubble. The housing bubble would have deflated or slowed in any event – the precipitous collapse was accelerated by the leftist ascension.

Today the leftist momentum seems dead – cap and tax is now mocked far and wide, ObamaCare is likely to be tossed as unconstitutional. The threat of higher taxes remains, as there is only a two year delay, thus putting the economy in exactly the same place it was at this time in 2009. Even the ever-controlling Chief Executive has been compelled to acknowledge the job-killing role of Federal regulations.

The WSj suggests that our president has truly learned nothing from the government disasters that arose under the democrat congress that controlled the government from Jan 2007 until this month. A shame, and one that belies his purported intelligence.

Rufus

January 25th, 2011
8:47 am

Granny, I would hate to call you a ???? , but we all heard it. I know you worship the ground he walks on, but even you, must admit that was a very dis-tasteful comment.

Peadawg

January 25th, 2011
8:50 am

Rufus, please find us a quote where he mentions the word, “bus.” Good luck. But the rest of your comment is spot on.

Joel Edge

January 25th, 2011
8:50 am

“saved the world from a new Great Depression”
You must have loaned him the crystal ball. Hardly fact based.

Rufus

January 25th, 2011
8:50 am

Willie, who do you think is feeding Frum the information to base his speeching on ?

granny godzilla

January 25th, 2011
8:54 am

Rufus

Why would you call an old lady a nasty name just for offering to share her seat with you?

How could I call a comment that you didn’t reproduce accurately distasteful?

I’d hate to think you are one of those folks who would lie or distort to make a political point.

Peadawg

January 25th, 2011
8:54 am

Good news by the way:
tp://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/sunday-alcohol-sales-legislation-814359.html

“The end of Gov. Sonny Perdue’s tenure has worked wonders for the confidence of backers of Sunday alcohol sales at grocery, convenience and liquor stores. For the first time in several years, they think they have a good chance of succeeding.”

TBone

January 25th, 2011
8:55 am

Frum will go where the $$$ is and write what he needs to get paid. The messiah will say a lot of words tonight which mean absolutely nothing as usual. I suggest that we watch very closely what he does through his cronies to judge the sincerity.

granny godzilla

January 25th, 2011
8:56 am

Rufus

Are you accusing a Republican of good standing of being a spy for the opposition?

Are all republicans required to all think and say the same thing?

Good Grief

January 25th, 2011
8:56 am

Yeah, Rufus, you’ve got a lot of good points. The obama comment, though, was that instead of wanting to give Repulicans back the keys, he said that they could come along for the ride, but even then they had to sit in the back. No bus was mentioned.

Also, nice use of the eggcorn “cow down.” The correct phrase would either be “bow down” or “kowtow.” I love it when other people put their own idiosyncracies on display. Wonderful.

Peadawg

January 25th, 2011
8:57 am

“I suggest that we watch very closely what he does through his cronies to judge the sincerity.” – I’m not even going to waste my time. I’ll read about it tomorrow on the ajc, cnn, espn(since he’ll probably mention the Superbowl and his Bears choking), etc.

HERE YA GO

January 25th, 2011
8:58 am

Dear Mr. President:

During my shift in the Emergency Room last night, I had the pleasure of evaluating a patient whose smile revealed an expensive shiny gold tooth, whose body was adorned with a wide assortment of elaborate and costly tattoos, who wore a very expensive brand of tennis shoes and who chatted on a new cellular telephone equipped with a popular musical ringtone.

While glancing over her patient chart, I happened to notice that her payer status was listed as “Medicaid”! During my examination of her, the patient informed me that she smokes more than one costly pack of cigarettes every day and somehow still has money to buy pretzels and beer.

And, you and our Congress expect me to pay for this woman’s health care?I contend that our nation’s “health care crisis” is not the result of a shortage of quality hospitals, doctors or nurses. Rather, it is the result of a “crisis of culture”, a culture in which it is perfectly acceptable to spend money on luxuries and vices while refusing to take care of one’s self or, heaven forbid, purchase health insurance. It is a culture based in the irresponsible credo that “I can do whatever I want to because someone else will always take care of me”.

Once you fix this “culture crisis” that rewards irresponsibility and dependency, you’ll be amazed at how quickly our nation’s health care difficulties will disappear.

Respectfully,

STARNER JONES, MD

Peadawg

January 25th, 2011
9:01 am

HERE YA GO @ 8:58, wow that’s pretty pathetic. I agree 100% with your last 2 paragraphs.

willie lynch

January 25th, 2011
9:02 am

The issue is how repugnican leaders have whipped their minions into a frenzy by keeping this type of conversation out of the public. Instead the conversation went like this: “Down with healthcare”. Great what do we do instead? “Well I don’t know but he wasn’t even born in America”. What? “Government better keep their hands off my Medicare”. What? “He’s a socialist”. This is what you on the right spent your time on and lent your ear to. If you repugs had helped instead of wasting your time on all that nonsense we might be further along in this recovery.

It’s typical politics to sit back and do nothing and then claim everything is so bad. And it’s a sign of mental instability do deny the obvious.

granny godzilla

January 25th, 2011
9:03 am

HERE YA GO

Read that letter to the Clarian Ledger on Snopes.

Why did you not post the response?

Peadawg

January 25th, 2011
9:04 am

“And it’s a sign of mental instability do deny the obvious.”

And the obvious is that this country leans too much on entitlements and their daddy(gov’t) and not enough on personal responsibility.

willie lynch

January 25th, 2011
9:04 am

Rufus

January 25th, 2011
8:50 am

I don’t know Rufus. Who is feeding Frum his information?

cosby

January 25th, 2011
9:06 am

Numbers are all over the board these days. Depending on whom you speak with is what the numbers say. Personally, I think we have built a house of cards. First, Obama picked the winners and loosers – Leman Brothers vs Goldman Sacks for example. Second, the so called stimulus spending accomplshed nothing but to create a false economic situation – see the cash for clunkers results.. States and their financial situation are crumbling, a lot to do with unfunded mandates by the Feds. The so called Health Care will put even monre financial burden on the States in expanded medicaid and the cost to set up the exchanges. The housing market is still in termoil, but because of Obama and the Feds, the big financial institutions, the unions leaders are still living the good life. The USA built its economic base on cheap money and cheap energy..cheap money is still here but hard to find, cheap energy is a thing of the past and was not helped by Obama prohibiting drilling. Using the Czars, Obama is doing and end around run on Cap and Trade, further erroding industry…so I’m totally confused how anything done in the past two years has developed the jobs CT mentions and there is not any type of long term econoomic base to build on. A house of Cards built by the Feds and an unstainable debt burden…and for those of you who are in the stock market at 12,000…get out as it is coming down.

Keep up the good fight!

January 25th, 2011
9:06 am

Here ya go…….yep you did a nice cut and paste of a letter to editor published in the Mississippi Clarion Ledger on 8.23.2009. Any real facts?

Peadawg

January 25th, 2011
9:07 am

Granny, I’ve read the response. What’s your point? People need to get they’re priorities in order and this lady with her gold tooth, taboos, and cigarette habit is proof.

Peadawg

January 25th, 2011
9:07 am

Keep up the good fight!

January 25th, 2011
9:07 am

Granny beat me too it!

Keep up the good fight!

January 25th, 2011
9:11 am

Pea…we’ve had this talk before. Besides no real evidence of anything being true, just like those claims that people were shopping in GA Whole Foods and bringing out shopping carts, you have no idea of when those tatoos were purchased. Maybe the person had a job then. Cell phone — needed for many people these days and cheaper than a landline. Nor is there any evidence to show that the person was on any form of government assistance, and in fact, if the DR had revealed that it would have been a violation of law. It proves nothing.

Peadawg

January 25th, 2011
9:13 am

“It proves nothing.” – Ok, Keep. My bad. :roll:

willie lynch

January 25th, 2011
9:14 am

CT is reprinting a text of Frum’s words. Why are you acting as though these are her assertions? Why aren’t you attacking Frum? You people are clueless.

resno2

January 25th, 2011
9:15 am

T-Town
Prepare yourself to disappointed and un-impressed

granny godzilla

January 25th, 2011
9:16 am

Peadawg

“Granny, I’ve read the response.”

Me too.

“What’s your point?”

To insure that the material posted got proper attribution.

“People need to get they’re priorities in order and this lady with her gold tooth, taboos, and cigarette habit is proof.”

Yep, they sure do.

If you think a gold crown and a marlboro are sure signs of out of order priorities you have never been to a rodeo.

Peadawg

January 25th, 2011
9:16 am

Oh, Keep…how about this one….this made me cringe at how pathetic it was. I keep talking about all the fraud and waste in entitlements and here’s one in food stamps….a woman with a basket full of nice big steaks, chicken, etc. paying with her EBT card. I thought an EBT was for necessities like milk, bread, cereal, eggs, etc? Since when are 10 oz ribeyes and chicken a necessity?

Alatsea

January 25th, 2011
9:17 am

Nothing to do with this mornings gibberish from CT. But hey, most of the posts on here have nothing to do with her gibberish.
Came across this post last by Kammy written to his butt buddy Keep. If you think about it, it’s really pretty sad that this is all these paranoid guys have going for them. The only one they left out was Granny but at least she has a great sense of humor. Sock puppets. Get a life.
Your first sentence could also be about you Kammy, obnoxious judgmental poster.

Kamchak
January 24th, 2011
6:39 pm

Keep

Early on in my experience next door at JB’s there was this obnoxious judgmental poster named “The Corporal.” At least three times a day he would post his list of people that he would ignore and his reasons for doing so. I was naive and believed that everyone posted under one name, but then I began to notice similarities between “The Corporal” and other posters. Then one day, after hours of posting as “The Corporal,” I began to see posts with the name “The Coporal.” When I asked about the missing “r” he said it was because that he had to sign back in when he turned his computer off and it was just a case of misspelling after returning to the blog. This was the beginning of several instances of bearing false witness.

We know this poster now as Scout.

It was also when I began to suspect that people with weak arguments needed others to back them up, even if they had to create their own yes men. It wasn’t too much later that Jay put an end to puppet masters engaging in a conversation between with themselves using their various creations.

Too bad Ms. Tucker hasn’t begun that policy.

Rufus

January 25th, 2011
9:19 am

Granny, Granny, Granny, you make my head hurt, you are so blind or bias, Frum is not part of Oblamers administration, there for he does not have free access to all the information nor the time to fully research the info given to him in order to write the speech he is commissioned for, example # 1 if the labor department tells him 15 trillion jobs were created, how is he to dispute it. # 2 the CBO was given info to suggest Obamacare would save billions of dollars, we all know now those numbers were not accurate. Politicians in general ( right or left seem to have a problem with numbers ) , its like when a person gets elected they use a whole new math that only works in their favor.

As far as the bus, Obozo said the GOP drive the bus into the ditch, Obozo said he now has the keys, Obozo says he is now driving said bus, Obozo said if we want to ride we must get in the back. So it must be a bus.
Personally I am tired of his bus comments period.

Some People are misinformed

January 25th, 2011
9:20 am

PEadawg-
An EBT card isn’t necessities….its for food in general.
WIC is for necessities.

granny godzilla

January 25th, 2011
9:20 am

Peadawg

Do you think poor people should give up meat?

Oh and a 10 oz ribeye at 7.99/lb costs 5 bucks and can provide two servings of 5 oz of read meat for 2.50 per serving.

Now that’s a whole lot more expensive than a happy meal, but I think better quality protein is worth it.

(I just got bone in Ribeyes at Fresh Market for 7.99/lb and am saving them for Friday night)

HERE YA GO

January 25th, 2011
9:20 am

keep up your good whatever since when did facts mean anything to you?

ctucker

January 25th, 2011
9:21 am

Actually, Rufus@8:36, We don’t all live in a reality-based universe. Most Republicans pretend that tax cuts don’t increase the deficit, which violates principles of basic arithmetic

Peadawg

January 25th, 2011
9:21 am

“you have never been to a rodeo.” – Nope and I don’t plan on going. I don’t get what’s so fun about pissing off a bull so much.

Good Grief

January 25th, 2011
9:22 am

Peadawg -
Along the same lines as your EBT encounter, when I was a teenager I worked at an Ace Hardware. One day I had two Hispanic gentlemen come in looking to purchase a commercial mower for their business. I got one guy’s ID and Social Security card and went back to try and procure a line of credit for him. They credit company said his social security card was no good. I thought it might’ve been a glitch, so they tried again, and still no dice. I went back to the man and told him his social security card was rejected. He said “Try one of these,” and pulled out four more social security cards. I wish I was making that up.