Palin’s crosshairs and the First Amendment

As much fun as it is to call out the clueless Sarah Palin for her long list of gaffes, lies and inflammatory nonsense, neither she or her supporters caused the Arizona atrocity. If Jared Loughner, the suspect, is the culprit, it’s likely that we’ll find that he suffers from a serious mental illness — perhaps paranoid schizophrenia — and probably hears voices. Maybe he hears Palin. It’s just as likely he hears Zeus or the Green Hornet.
Palin has taken a lot of grief since the shooting spree because of an irresponsible image she used on her Facebook page during the campaign. In listing a group of Democratic Congressional seats that she wanted Republicans to win, she used a map of the United States and imposed images of gunsights over several Congressional seats. One of those was the seat held by Congresswoman Gabby Giffords.
(Palin has since claimed the image wasn’t crosshairs, but that’s nonsense. It was.)
In response, U.S. Rep. Bob Brady (D-Pa.) wants to make it illegal to use such imagery. He told Fox News yesterday (via TPM):

“It wouldn’t be harm putting that in the bill. It is on both sides. It’s not a partisan bill. Again, we’ve got to stop our bickering amongst each other. We’re setting a bad example for the American people. We need to cut down rhetoric amongst each other. We can disagree without being so disagreeable,” Brady said.

I agree with Brady that we can disagree without being disagreeable. But his proposal for outlawing political speech is foolish and dangerous — as much a threat as a lunatic with a gun. The freedom that Americans enjoy to say almost whatever they like — especially in the political arena — is one of the cornerstones of this great democracy. Brady ought to be ashamed of trying to impose limits on that freedom.

There is no evidence that Loughner ever saw Palin’s Facebook page. But even if the investigation shows that he was specifically motivated by it, such imagery should not be outlawed. (Whether Palin should have used better judgement is quite another matter. She should have, as should all the violent-imagery-worshiping pols who have seen fit to invoke martial accessories for their ads.)

Last week, when Speaker John Boehner set aside time for the new House to read the U.S. Constitution aloud, U.S. Rep. Giffords read the First Amendment. Afterwards, she told several people that she was especially pleased that was the part she was given.

It would dishonor her for Brady to push a law that infringes on that sacred text.

544 comments Add your comment

A+A

January 11th, 2011
5:49 pm

B-irony is kind of lost on you, isn’t it.

Nothing Is Free

January 11th, 2011
5:51 pm

A+A

Do you have the balls to address what Obama and members of the Democratic Party have said in the past that could very well have inspired the Marxist that killed those people?

Nothing Is Free

January 11th, 2011
5:52 pm

Avenger

Do you have the balls to address what Obama and members of the Democratic Party have said in the past that could very well have inspired the Marxist that killed those people?

Nothing Is Free

January 11th, 2011
5:53 pm

Its ok he is white

Do you have the balls to address what Obama and members of the Democratic Party have said in the past that could very well have inspired the Marxist that killed those people?

Nothing Is Free

January 11th, 2011
5:54 pm

Anybody?

Anybody got what ikt takes to man up and look at both sides of this?

Nothing Is Free

January 11th, 2011
5:55 pm

I’m not holding my breath.

And Keep Up was calling conservatives cowards.

Keep up the good fight!

January 11th, 2011
5:57 pm

Nonsense is Free…child your pathetic demands for attention are showing your complete foolishness and attempted manly bravado. Now do try to take a breath and go back and read what has been previously posted. Your childish dare has already been answered. We’ll be waiting for you condemnation of the right but we won’t be holding our breath. Now hoof it over to the child’s table and do try to learn to behave. You are indeed a little drama queen.

stands for decibels

January 11th, 2011
5:57 pm

NIFfy, have you thought about getting profession help for your delusions of relevance?

Kamchak

January 11th, 2011
6:00 pm

Shorter swampy nowhere man: Boo-hoo.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award" much like CT's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

January 11th, 2011
6:00 pm

Yeah, it’s all Palin’s fault…

“Dem Congressman who called for GOP Gov. to be put against a wall and shot now pleads for civility”

“OBAMA FLASHBACK: ‘If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun’…”

Keep up the good fight!

January 11th, 2011
6:01 pm

And let’s be clear…I called Bingo a coward not all conservatives. You’re great with the lies. Facts don’t really matter to you do they? No wonder you are a self-admitted low level hack for the local GOP.

stands for decibels

January 11th, 2011
6:02 pm

And righties, ain’t nobody outside of your echo chamber buying your false equivalency arguments. Just so you know.

Nothing Is Free

January 11th, 2011
6:03 pm

That’s what a thought.

Scout. Does this give you an idea of the kind of people you are dealing with here?

Disgusting\ting gutless creepy little nothings who can’t argue a point, but just want to wag their dirty little fingers and accuse others but haven’t got the balls to defend their own mantra.

Stick with it libs.

I’m pretty sure your gutless accusations are probably making you feel really good about defending the actions of a mass killer.

In reality, I wouldn’t give a dime for the whole lot of you, and apparently as many days as you live here, no one else would either.

stands for decibels

January 11th, 2011
6:03 pm

gm

January 11th, 2011
6:05 pm

Nothing Is Free : Stupid, I guess this hurt when this is one of your own nut jobs.
Marxist, hannity, beck, sara, are the one thats going around calling the President a socialist, Marxist and other names , idiots like you and low middle class whites are the reason this happends.

Roger Asterilla

January 11th, 2011
6:05 pm

At some point, but maybe not soon enough, we as members of this society will learn that in order to have the peace and liberties everyone seems to crave, we will have to balance our right to personal freedom with our need for social stability.

Nothing Is Free

January 11th, 2011
6:06 pm

Creeped out again.

What a bunch of creepy, gutless nothings.

This has shown you to be what you really are better than anything that has ever happened.

A+A

January 11th, 2011
6:08 pm

Nothing is Free-please try to make sense. There are adults in the room.

Keep up the good fight!

January 11th, 2011
6:09 pm

What a bunch of creepy, gutless nothings is free.

Fixed that for you my non-friend. You do need to be clearer.

By the way, still waiting for that denouncing of the Palin rhetoric….

H. O'Conner

January 11th, 2011
6:11 pm

Think about it; If a Hip Hop Rapper rap about CROSSHAIRS on a Map and identify Tucson Az. (evident or not), Who will all you doubters blame?????

gm

January 11th, 2011
6:12 pm

I wonder what these racist tea baggers would have done if this guy was a muslim, should we not build a christian temple now near 911 now? after all this was a white male, you see the double standards hyprocrite Rep.

Nothing Is Free

January 11th, 2011
6:16 pm

Keep Up

You want to pretend to be an adult and debate this, twit? Can you control your fragile little emotions long enough to do it?

Let me know.

Zoey

January 11th, 2011
6:18 pm

Kanjorski, Democrat from PA says “”That Scott down there that’s running for governor of Florida,” Mr. Kanjorski said. “Instead of running for governor of Florida, they ought to have him and shoot him. Put him against the wall and shoot him”

Anything from Tucker about his dangerous lack of civility or his over the top rhetoric?

Nope.

Nothing Is Free

January 11th, 2011
6:18 pm

GM

How about it? Want to address what your own party has said in the past?

Is there a liberal on here with a backbone?

Keep up the good fight!

January 11th, 2011
6:21 pm

Nonsense is Free….Rational debate is not possible with a child. You are welcome to go back and read my prior posts including the Jon Stewart video link. If you then wish to act and behave like an adult and not a childish drama queen you may of course let us know that you condemn the over the top rhetoric of Palin, the right and any on the left. You may want to include a condemnation of your own rhetoric. Perhaps then real discussion can ensue between adults who are responsible for their own words.

Nothing Is Free

January 11th, 2011
6:21 pm

Keep up

Keep your adolescent insults to yourself.

if you w ant to debate this instead of wagging that dirty little finger, let’s go.

Tommy Maddox

January 11th, 2011
6:24 pm

“The shooter is white; Sarah Palin is white!! See!! There is a connection!!”

Truly, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Keep up the good fight!

January 11th, 2011
6:25 pm

The person who Florida U.S. Rep. Allen West first hired as chief of staff told people attending a Tea Party rally that, ‘We will use bullets if ballots don’t work.’

Nothing Is Free

January 11th, 2011
6:26 pm

Keep Up

At what do it get in return? A condescending pile of crap from a complete creepy little coward.

Well you are in good company. Not a liberal here has the balls to stop preaching and actually discuss the actual issue.

You little twits make this much too easy.

Nothing Is Free

January 11th, 2011
6:28 pm

Keep Up

Obama called Republicans the enemy. What’s your point?

Nothing Is Free

January 11th, 2011
6:30 pm

Keep Up

So for everything you post that a republican said, I can post things at least as bad that a democrat said.

Are you smart enough to understand what I am saying?

gm

January 11th, 2011
6:33 pm

Nothing Is Free

Yea right, liberal are really going around trashing, Government, saying idiots things like taking back there country, you and the conservative party and the tea fakes are breed these kind of people.

Nothing Is Free

January 11th, 2011
6:33 pm

Keep Up

Paul Krugman said to hang Lieberman in effigy. Are you getting it?

Can you understand that while the current political climate might just have actually had something to do with the shooter’s state of mind, nothing that is now known about him connects him more with republicans than Democrats. In fact, what is now known connects him more with democrats than republicans.

Tim

January 11th, 2011
6:34 pm

Ms. Tucker. You along with your liberal/progressive colleagues are completely out of your mind. You know as well as I do that neither Sarah Palin or any other conservative actually advocates the shooting of another person even over political differences.You and those on the left are using this awful situation to promote your own selfish political agenda. It is nothing less than political opportunism and you know it. You advocate taking away freedoms form anyone who doesn’t agree with you. People like you and Chris Matthews and those at MSNBC are who are the real danger to our nation. And by the way. The shooter is a liberal according to those who know him. Barrack Obama has been a reader of Karl Marx just like the shooter. But I don’t blame him for this.

Keep up the good fight!

January 11th, 2011
6:35 pm

Nonsense is Free….again, go back and look at my prior posts. Asked and answered, child.

Nothing Is Free

January 11th, 2011
6:36 pm

gm

So the tea party caused this person to do this, even though the tea party didn’t exist when he had his first confrontation with the Congressperson.

I don’t need another sermon. Address my point, if you can.

TnGelding

January 11th, 2011
6:37 pm

Palin isn’t the only guilty party, and it probably played no role in this tragedy.

Nothing Is Free

January 11th, 2011
6:37 pm

Keep Up

I’m not looking at anything.
.
if you want to say something to me, have the balls to say it to me. Give it a try. Who knows, you might like being an adult.

Nothing Is Free

January 11th, 2011
6:39 pm

liberals

Do you understand that you are claiming that someone was complicit in a mass murder? And you are doing it with no evidence at all?

You see how gutless Keep Up is. (Say it ain’t so)

Anybody else?

Joe

January 11th, 2011
6:42 pm

Palin isn’t the only guilty party??? Palin isn’t guilty in the least bit. This is a left wing nut job who probably watched MessNBC every night…..

Keep up the good fight!

January 11th, 2011
6:44 pm

Drama Queen for Free….now child, your continued pathetic demands for attention are silly. If you dont want to read what has been posted previously, if you demand that posters address your childish dares, lies, if you continue your little boy feet stomping and if you have to continue your school yard bully tactics of claiming that you have any manhood, you can expect that adults ignore you. This is your teachable moment. You may want to learn, but I doubt you will.

Concerned

January 11th, 2011
6:44 pm

WOW, I would have thought you would of supported this amendment….CT u r still a racist

Nothing Is Free

January 11th, 2011
6:50 pm

Keep Up

Keep tap dancing, gutless twit.

No one considers “Look at my other posts” to be any sort of intelligent answer.

You can’t defend your positions, as usual. Now run along twit. I’m not into watching gutless, ill-educated, boys tap dancing.

When you grow a set, let me know.

Until then, concentrate on trying to talk down to p;eople much smarter than you. So far, that’s working really well. LOL!

And BTW, I don’t come on here as other posters to attack you Why would I need to do that? You are a waste of time under one name.

I, unlike you, have a life and am limited to how long I can post here.

You can’t control your emotions long enough to carry on a conversation with anyone, so deal with how other people feel about you.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award" much like CT's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

January 11th, 2011
6:51 pm

Go to verum serum dot com and look at the democrats “bullseye” map from 2004? What’s the big difference between it and the Palin map?

Nothing Is Free

January 11th, 2011
6:52 pm

Have a good night, oh gutless ones.

What a bunch of creepy little nothings.

Nothing Is Free

January 11th, 2011
6:53 pm

The Leg Lamp is a “major award” much like CT’s Pulitzer and Obama’s Nobel.

Don’t hold your breath for an answer. The girls just want to preach.

Keep up the good fight!

January 11th, 2011
6:54 pm

As I anticipated, you will never learn.

No one considers “Look at my other posts” to be any sort of intelligent answer

So now you suffer from delusions that you speak for everyone?

As for emotions, I think some of the other posters have already confirmed your hysterics are over the top.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award" much like CT's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

January 11th, 2011
6:54 pm

Our POTUS’s calming words are very appropriate in times such as these:

OBAMA FLASHBACK: ‘If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun’…

ND

January 11th, 2011
6:55 pm

I’m not going to read through nine pages of comments to see if anyone has mentioned this yet, but the purported Facebook page of Loughner in which he supposedly claimed to idolize past Communist leaders as well as President Obama — referred to in the first couple of posts on this blog — was a fake.

B

January 11th, 2011
6:58 pm

A+A – just lovin’ the libs