GOP turns its back on patriotic and productive illegal immigrants

One of the more detrimental features of the current Republican Party is its indulgence of the stubborn nativism that characterizes its base. That was on full display last night, when only eight Republicans in the House of Representatives voted for the DREAM Act, which would provide a path to citizenship for young illegal immigrants who have demonstrated ambition, good character and talent.
The DREAM Act is no massive plan for “amnesty;” it is narrowly tailored to young folk who have lived in the U.S. for at least five years. They would be eligible for citizenship only if they served in the military for two years or finished two years of college. They would join the ranks of patriotic and productive Americans.
Michael Gerson, chief speechwriter for George W. Bush, had called on Republicans in Congress to support the bill:

It would be difficult to define a more sympathetic group of potential Americans. They must demonstrate that they are law-abiding and education-oriented. Some seek to defend the country they hope to join. The Defense Department supports the Dream Act as a source of quality volunteers. Business groups welcome a supply of college-educated workers. The Department of Homeland Security endorses the legislation so it can focus on other, more threatening, groups of illegal immigrants. . .

Whatever its legislative fate, the Dream Act is effective at stripping away pretense. Opponents of this law don’t want earned citizenship for any illegal immigrant – even those personally guilty of no crime, even those who demonstrate their skills and character. The Dream Act would be a potent incentive for assimilation. But for some, assimilation clearly is not the goal. They have no intention of sharing the honor of citizenship with anyone called illegal – even those who came as children, have grown up as neighbors and would be willing to give their lives in the nation’s cause.

During the current lame-duck session of Congress, Republicans have been correct to emphasize economic concerns, which the public prioritized in the recent election. But supporting the Dream Act would send a useful message – that some Republicans in victory are capable of governing for the sake of everyone.

But the GOP isn’t interested in proving its sense of duty to everyone. It only wants to satisfy its rich backers (witness its fealty to keeping tax cuts for the rich) and throw a few crumbs to its narrow-minded base. For those reasons, the DREAM Act is probably doomed in the Senate, where Republicans have pledged to block votes on everything else until they get the extension of tax cuts for the rich.

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HDB

December 9th, 2010
4:04 pm

ButtHead December 9th, 2010
3:43 pm

FAIR Tax won’t work…..all it is is just a tax SHIFT to the middle class!! What’s really needed is a progressive FLAT tax with the maximum optimaum rate at 39.5% (the Clinton rates)……..

NuckyThompson

December 9th, 2010
4:10 pm

Why is there no stories on Bishop Eddie Long’s admission of sleeping with the young men,that are suing him? I figured he was guilty. That’s why he is going to pay them millions outside of the court system.

GT/MIT

December 9th, 2010
4:15 pm

HDB

I remember that somewhere you posted this,”KEY things:Democrats still control the SENATE”,
So hows that working out for you bunkey?

Good Grief

December 9th, 2010
4:16 pm

HDB @ 3:59-
Concerning your statement that conservatives were the party that stood against Civil Rights. The vote totals for the Civil Rigths Act of 1964 tell a bit different of a tale.

The originial House version saw the Democrats go 152 for, 96 against (61% – 39%). The Republicans went 138 for, 38 against (80% – 20%).

The original Senate version saw the Democrats vote 46 for, 21 against (69% – 31%), while the Republicans voted 27 for, six against (82% – 18%).

When the House voted on the Senate’s version, the Democrats voted 153 for, 91 against (63% – 37%, while the Republicans voted 136 for, 35 agaisnt (80% – 20%).

The only place where your argument holds any water is in a regional breakdown, but even then the Democrats do not fare well. In the South, House Democrats voted against the bill by a 93% to 7% margin. Southern House Republicans voted against the bill 100%, but there were a whopping 10 Southern House reps at the time.

In the Senate, southern Democrats voted against the bill by a 95% to 5% margin. Again, the southern Republicans in the Senate voted 100% against the bill. But there was only 1 senate Republican at the time.

So I can really see how conservatives stood against this bill. Boy, that’s a convincing case.

HDB

December 9th, 2010
4:26 pm

Good Grief

December 9th, 2010
4:16 pm

Note what I stated: CONSERVATIVES: Prior to 1964, the conservatives were DEMOCRATS…and the liberals were Republicans!! After the passage of the Civil Rights Act by LBJ (a somewhat conservative Democrat), this was said: We’ve (the Democrats) have lost the South for a generation!! After 1964, the CONSERVATIVES left the Democratic Party and came to the GOP!!

THAT’S the point that many fail to recognize!!!

Tommy Maddox

December 9th, 2010
4:26 pm

The DADT Repeal just bombed in the Senate.

What a day…

HDB

December 9th, 2010
4:27 pm

Back in 1 hr…all!!

Good Grief

December 9th, 2010
4:30 pm

HDB -
I see your point, but I know several people who would disagree with your assessment of LBJ as a ’somewhat conservative Democrat.”

Peace, everyone. I’ve got other things to do. It’s been fun.

Libby

December 9th, 2010
4:38 pm

Oh my yes – how horribly we treat criminals! Tell ya what – you can send as many as you want to college or to live with you.

Fix-It

December 9th, 2010
4:38 pm

HDB, you need a history lesson, it was the GOP that pushed through the civil rights bill, the dimcrats tried to block it.

Fix-It

December 9th, 2010
4:38 pm

House Democrats Reject Tax Plan, the new party of NO

Fix-It

December 9th, 2010
4:41 pm

Many fail to recognize that ONLY the dimacrats would elect the Grand Wizard of the KKK, and keep him in office for 50 years….But the same loser liberals call for anybodies head that disagrees with them, how UN-democratic…

PhilH

December 9th, 2010
4:42 pm

GOP? I’m a VERY liberal Democrat, and I am opposed to the DREAM Act. Illegal immigration is bad for this country, and you have to be pretty insulated to not see this. If the DREAM Act passes, it will no doubt hurt American students. I think it is time that the government does what it promised in 1986, when Amnesty was given. Enforce the darn law! Stop illegal wars overseas, and bring our troops home to secure the borders. Democrats want votes, and Republicans want cheap labor. Considering the unemployment rate, how can we add more competition to the job market? What about the legal immigrants that had to go through hoops to get here, only to be shown that all they had to do was break our immigration laws and get a free pass? This is all nonsense, and must be stopped.

Fix-It

December 9th, 2010
4:43 pm

HDB, was Martin Luther King a racist? He was a republican….

Paddy O

December 9th, 2010
5:07 pm

Look at the ludicrousness of the headline for this article – HOW INCREDIBLY DEEP IS YOUR STUPIDITY? No wonder the Democrats in GA, and soon the entire Nation, are being kicked out of office – they are all a bunch of moronic, pollyanna Utopianist – who really want your tax money simply to enrich themselves.

Paddy O

December 9th, 2010
5:09 pm

Fair tax is crap – anyone here want to pay 30% on everything they buy? Including a new car, lawyer services, medical services, divorce activity? Part of fairness is ABILITY TO PAY to cost. The key is to REDUCE SPENDING – something these profoundly worthless Democrats & liberals are incapable of. Good riddance to those losers here in Georgia. AND, if Repubs can slash spending (EIC, foreign investment, farm subsidies, federal grants), the TEA party is ready to kick their butts out the door too.

Paddy O

December 9th, 2010
5:11 pm

5 years is a long time in Ms. Pollyanna’s universe? This is amnesty no matter how you spin it. However, I would concur that those who enlist in the military should have access to a “speedy” citizenship process.

Paddy O

December 9th, 2010
5:12 pm

DADT is good policy, and it is also Constitutional, if you bother reading the bloody document.

Paddy O

December 9th, 2010
5:15 pm

Losing power to the people sucks, eh, Ms. Queen of Democratic Liberalism? You have been effectively castrated – so your whining is even more shrill than typical. HAAAA HAAA HAAA HAAAA (on into infinity – yuk, yuk). Good bye into irrelevance!

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

December 9th, 2010
5:42 pm

More than 50 percent of Americans say they are worse off now than they were two years ago when President Barack Obozo took office, and two-thirds believe the country is headed in the wrong direction, a Bloomberg National Poll shows.

Had enough?

Tom

December 9th, 2010
5:53 pm

None of these Congress men and women who lost in Nov 2010 should be allowed to vote on anything in this lame-duck time period. They have no accountability to the voters at this time. They should be required to leave office as soon as their lost their positions. This LAME-DUCK time period is chickenpoop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chris Matthews

December 9th, 2010
5:54 pm

They should all be in jail! There are no patriotic and productive illegals! They all are law breakers! You idiot liberals have no common sense!!

I'm with Stupid

December 9th, 2010
6:01 pm

HaHAHAHAHAHAHA….the Dems with overwhelming majorities had 2 YEARS to pass the Dream Act, repeal Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, but they wait until a lame duck session of congress? And you say the GOP has turned it’s back? Then again, I don’t expect any different from CT.

Just say'in

December 9th, 2010
6:11 pm

CT- You keep using the term “tax cuts for the rich”. Actually it would be a tax increase if government failed to act. We have had the current tax rate for the last ten years. It’s all in the symantics isn’t it? Just like they are ILLEAGLE immigrants not undoccumented workers.

Nothing Is Free

December 9th, 2010
6:19 pm

HDB

I read your nonsense about how you say that the parties flipped. Hillary Clinton said that she was a Progressive “like the progressives at the turn of the century.” THat was the people that encouraged the making of the movie “Birth of a Nation”. It was premiered inside the White House at the request of the progressive president, Woodrow Wilson. So Hilary Clinton openly admits that she is a progressive like the president that praised the movie that makes heros out of the KKK.

The Republicans haven’t changed their Policies since the 1950s. We still support integration, but the current democrats do not. But the Democrats support Segregation as is demonstrated over and over again in their attempts at keeping Blacks separate from Whites. Democrats openly cater to Blacks as a segment of our population, encouraging them to remain as a “block”, while Republicans encourage integration of Blacks into society.

Of course the most telling issue that proves beyond a doubt that the democrats are still the racist rats they have always been, democrats have been the leaders of Blacks since the civil rights movement, and look at the results.

You have two choices: The democrats have put the Black demographic in the mess they are in either because they are completely clueless, or it is because they intended to hold down the black demographic. Your choice. Do you think the democratic leadership are idiots, or do you believe they are smart. If they are smart, look at what they intentionally did. If they are idiots, what does that say about the people who continue to elect them to represent Blacks.

Democrats fight against improving inner city schools and also fight against busing and integration of schools. That’s not 1960, that was one of the first things Obama did when he moved into the White House.

Democrats fight to continue to cause any Black person hired to have their skills doubted by insisting on continuing the outdated affirmative action policies that have done nothing but continue to diminish the credibility of Black people.

Democrats continue to pass policies that encourage the decimation of the Black family.

Democrats follow the reverse eugenics teachings of Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenhood who was convinced that abortions were the answer to keeping the black population under control.

From the website, BlackGenocide. org:

At a March 1925 international birth control gathering in New York City, a speaker warned of the menace posed by the “black” and “yellow” peril. The man was not a Nazi or Klansman; he was Dr. S. Adolphus Knopf, a member of Margaret Sanger’s American Birth Control League (ABCL), which along with other groups eventually became known as Planned Parenthood.

Should I continue?

FYI

December 9th, 2010
6:27 pm

Your car is Japanese. Your beer is German. Your wine is Spanish.Your democracy is Greek. Your coffee is Colombian. Your tea is Chinese.Your watch is Swiss. Your fashion is French. Your shirt is Indian. Your shoelace Thai. Your radio is Korean. Your vodka is Russian. And then ………you complain your neighbor is an immigrant? Pull yourself together! if you are against Racism, DREAM Act NOW !!!!!

Nothing Is Free

December 9th, 2010
6:33 pm

FYI

And my girlfriend is Spanish. Grow a clue. It isn’t race, half-wit. It’s the fact that they are breaking our laws to be here.

Are you smart enough to understand that? Can your tiny little indoctrinated brain get it?

Nothing's homie.

December 9th, 2010
6:53 pm

Y-y-yeah, half-twit, it’s the factin’ that they be a breakin’ our local and regional statute and ordinances that have served the common good for so long.

James

December 9th, 2010
6:56 pm

fyi- your brain is from mars. I drink russian vodka so I should be an enabler of illegal immigration? all easy to tell those that are being or recently indoctrinated by a drunken professor.

Nothing Is Free

December 9th, 2010
6:58 pm

Nothing’s homie.

- -Y-y-yeah, half-twit, it’s the factin’ that they be a breakin’ our local and regional statute and ordinances that have served the common good for so long.- -

You are that drunk, this early. Wow. you have a serious problem.

Nothing's homie.

December 9th, 2010
6:59 pm

and my girlfriend is pure Korean. She sleeps on the floor, man, and although 47, the floor has toned her body to look 18. Imagine the cartoon Lucy Liu character in kill bill when she finally grew up into the greatest hit man of all time or whatever she was. Hair, body identical, man.

What would I do to stem immigration after what I lucked in to? I’d put up a statue in the harbor in New York City that has a plaque that reads, “Send me your babes, your tired girls gone wild, your skank hoes, aw hell, just send your chicks.”

You lonely racist, bicurious nincompoops, who are obviously overconcerned with the purity of our precisou national bodily fluids can KissMyA(hole)!!!!

Morons

Nothing Is Free

December 9th, 2010
7:03 pm

Nothing’s homie.

Go somewhere and sleep it off. You’ve made enough of a fool of yourself.

Paddy O

December 9th, 2010
7:11 pm

ah, the intolerant liberal. would be an oxymoron except for that typical behavior thing.

Paddy O

December 9th, 2010
7:12 pm

homie – you under 30? if not, very sad.

Billybob

December 9th, 2010
7:22 pm

Same liberal template, different day. You are barely hanging on, eh Tucker? It’s fun to watch your biases and hatred fester into incoherent conservative ‘hit’ pieces daily. Keep talking so people can continue to learn the stark difference between far left liberal socialist ideals and conservatism. You are doing GREAT!!!

GT/MIT

December 9th, 2010
7:26 pm

HDB:

You must be young my friend as I believe you said this, “After 1964, the CONSERVATIVES left the Democratic Party and came to the GOP!! THAT’S the point that many fail to recognize!!!”

The reality is the democrats left the conservatives, and thats the point that you fail to recognize!!!

Ahh the ignorance of youth, I remember it well.

killerj

December 9th, 2010
7:31 pm

Poor 1400 hundred illegal,s sent back to mexico,1400 less votes for Obama,how sad.

James

December 9th, 2010
7:33 pm

Just give our citizenship away for two bits…..2 years of college or 2 years of military….right!!

Wilma

December 9th, 2010
7:43 pm

Dream is a sideshow. The real story, which Tucker makes no comment about is the willingness of the House Democrats to allow taxes to rise for virtually all taxpayers so that they can get their way. Even the President has agreed to a compromise but the house Democrats are real party of No. They are the party of selfish children who care about their socialist ideology and don’t give a fig for me or you.

Francis

December 9th, 2010
7:47 pm

The only immigration law that should be demanded is to make illegal entrance into the United States a felony, with no excuses and no exceptions. This includes businesses that are twice caught hiring illegal workers, should be subject to a harsh fine, confiscation of business assets and after the second conviction–prison. It’s blatantly obvious to me, that for years Washington has deceived the American people of both political parties. There has been no intention of enforcing immigration laws and this is proven without doubt. If illegal immigration had severe consequences, such as the above penalties the only enforcement program needed would be E-Verify mandated for every business owner. The majority of other restriction tools needed to halt the free flow of desperate, destitute people would radically decline; knowing that you would be convicted of a class “A” felony would collapse the ongoing flow.

This would be huge disincentive to economic foreign nationals crossing our borders, or using the excuse of being a tourist, fully aware they are not leaving once their visa runs out. No! There has been no true intention of halting illegal aliens coming here for work, or to commit crimes. Both Democrats and Republicans have remained impassive to the invasion, whether its 13 million or 20 million foreigners who have skirted our laws; of course that’s according which side of the Washington chambers you are inclined to believe? Over thirty years of government neglect has brought this nightmare upon us, of incessant crimes against lawful citizens and permanent residents. Americans land owners living in constant fear along the 2000 miles of mostly unprotected border. Both political parties irrationally forget who pays their salaries and pensions while American find their wages sinking and the majority of Social programs of having to share these entitlements with illegal labor and their families.

Around the country, we have activist judges who ignore the US constitution and instead construe the law according to personal political orientation. Even now Arizona is under bombardment from open border radicals, or pro business entities, who do not want this Border States policing laws to be upheld. Then again the IRS is complicit in allowing illegal aliens to squat here, by issuing ITIN numbers, as foreigners cannot possess a real Social Security card. Over the last ten years we have seen an escalation in ID theft, with the courts saying this is not classed as a felony. Another un-exaggerated point is that illegal alien workers are collecting billions of dollars in income tax refunds, for children who don’t exist or filing for the same child twice by each parent. For those people who believe that this is an embellishment, one only has to Google key words–illegal alien costs; illegal alien income tax refunds.

The are highly regarded reports on the expenditures of federal, state and county support of foreign nationals, that you as the taxpayer is erroneously paying. Sanctuary States like California under Liberal progressive control in Sacramento is depleting the state of billions of dollars, as they subsidize the millions in just Los Angeles County alone? The schools are in turmoil from overcrowding of children of illegal families, who by mandated law must be educated. In understaffed county hospitals have become places of last resort, for the multitudes of foreign nationals who live below the poverty line, so they are dependent on taxpayers. California has become an incubator for hundreds of thousands of illegal pregnant females, who collect under their new citizens-babies, namely billions of more dollars soaked from you and me.

Their children are a valuable commodity, because our 14th amendment law has been with intent compromised, so that children of illegal aliens are issued food stamps, low income housing and a large profusion of cash payment and other freebies. These illegal women are already aware that once the stand on our soil, that the US taxpayer will support them and all their children. Until we halt the illegal immigration occupation of this country, we a steadily heading for a irrevocable overpopulation. It should be remembered for every legal or illegal immigrant who settles here, brings many more immediate relation group follows. Every year millions come to America who already has a legal or illegal family member, who offers either a safe haven or an affidavit of support; who they sponsor. When an illegal alien is caught along the border, the US agents ask that individual where are they are going.

The majority answer I have a brother, or uncle in Denver, Salt Lake City or other major hub, who has a job for me. This is almost a perpetual loop of the same story over and over again. Alas, there is not enough room to explain what is happening around America ITS AN FINANCIAL catastrophe. ? Why should US citizens have to compete with foreign nationals? Why should legal construction workers or a laborer in any other job, have to compete with Contractors who hire foreign workers? When is this injustice to the American population going to end? Remember that–CHAIN MIGRATION–puts the United States in serious peril, even more so than the original sponsors. Learn much more about the OVERPOPULATION and its risks to the environment, infrastructure and quality of life at NumbersUSA The Dream Act in itself not a menace, although at least a 800.000 students would be eligible if they abide by the law?

The major problem that once legalized over how many years, they could bring in a whole spectrum of family. Chain migration has silently snowballed from the 1986 Immigration bill. Since that law was passed the Congress has quietly passed six amnesties, without any explanation, while at the same time admitting over a million new legal immigrants a year through a lottery of specific working visas. The Dream Act if passed is just another stealth type back door amnesty. Hopefully in our future—the TEA PARTY—will put an end to this serious pretense of each administration supposedly working for the populace.

Guy Wire

December 9th, 2010
8:24 pm

“GOP turns its back on patriotic and productive illegal immigrants”

Cynthia you blithering idiot, patriotic illegal immigrant is an oxymoron. Patriots do not deliberately break the nation’s laws.

Let these young illegal Democrats go through the normal, established procedure to attain U.S. citizenship. I could make an exception for honorable service in the U.S. military. But just for going to school on the taxpayers’ dime…no way Jose.

kevinbgoode

December 9th, 2010
8:29 pm

puhleeze – the GOP has turned its back on everyone but the 25 percent they insist should be the ruling elite.

lynnie gal

December 9th, 2010
8:37 pm

The GOP can block legislation all it wants, for two more years, that is. Democrats should resist, not give in to their demands and let them finish the job they started ten years ago–wreck the country and ruin the lives of the middle class and poor. Once every American is on their knees begging for help,(except the rich, of course) and the GOP turns their backs again and again on their suffering, they will be praying to get the Democrats back. The GOP’s days are numbered not only because of their behavior but because their demographic is primarily over 50 years old. The trap for Democrats is to enable them and not resist them. The Dream Act, DADT, healthcare reform, it’s all coming, it just might be delayed for a while. But eventually the old, white-haired, narrow-minded McCarthyist-racists from the 1940’s and 50’s will die and the world will finally change for the better.

Nothing Is Free

December 9th, 2010
8:39 pm

kevinbgoode

So they absolutely slaughtered the democrats on Nov. second with only 25% of Americans behind them.

Do tell.

Nothing Is Free

December 9th, 2010
8:40 pm

lynnie gal

Let me guess . . . Liberals arts.

Really bad at math.

Am I right?

Nothing Is Free

December 9th, 2010
8:56 pm

lynnie gal

By the time we are dead, you will be over 50 and by then you will wise up, well maybe not you, but most people will wise up and understand the basic math skills required to understand why liberalism won’t work.

oldguy (certified narrowminded base)

December 9th, 2010
9:05 pm

dream act? are you dreaming?!? So you are telling me it is OK to ignore the law if you are “deserving” Thanks, I was wondering how to justify avoiding all possible Taxes “cynthia said it was OK” works for me.
Once again….What part of “Illegal” don’t you understand.
p.s. Like many conservatives I believe in fair play ….therefore I believe we should take our policy verbatum from Mexico….adapt their immigration policies (read em and weep liberals!)

I Report (-: You Whine )-: mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

December 9th, 2010
9:10 pm

Apart from the near-term economic damage, the stakes in this debate are highest for Mr. Obama. In November voters repudiated the policies of his first two years, but the polls show a reservoir of respect for him as a leader. If he can be pounded into retreat by a soon-to-be-former Speaker whose approval rating is barely north of 10%, Mr. Obama is headed for the unhappy resting place for failed Presidencies known as Carterville.

Aahhh, self castration.

Ouch, just sayin…

Kamchak

December 9th, 2010
10:35 pm

Wow, a derisive opinion piece from a Murdoch rag.

Whodathunkit.

old-timer

December 9th, 2010
11:09 pm

Illegal is illegall..wht do people not understand…