GOP turns its back on patriotic and productive illegal immigrants

One of the more detrimental features of the current Republican Party is its indulgence of the stubborn nativism that characterizes its base. That was on full display last night, when only eight Republicans in the House of Representatives voted for the DREAM Act, which would provide a path to citizenship for young illegal immigrants who have demonstrated ambition, good character and talent.
The DREAM Act is no massive plan for “amnesty;” it is narrowly tailored to young folk who have lived in the U.S. for at least five years. They would be eligible for citizenship only if they served in the military for two years or finished two years of college. They would join the ranks of patriotic and productive Americans.
Michael Gerson, chief speechwriter for George W. Bush, had called on Republicans in Congress to support the bill:

It would be difficult to define a more sympathetic group of potential Americans. They must demonstrate that they are law-abiding and education-oriented. Some seek to defend the country they hope to join. The Defense Department supports the Dream Act as a source of quality volunteers. Business groups welcome a supply of college-educated workers. The Department of Homeland Security endorses the legislation so it can focus on other, more threatening, groups of illegal immigrants. . .

Whatever its legislative fate, the Dream Act is effective at stripping away pretense. Opponents of this law don’t want earned citizenship for any illegal immigrant – even those personally guilty of no crime, even those who demonstrate their skills and character. The Dream Act would be a potent incentive for assimilation. But for some, assimilation clearly is not the goal. They have no intention of sharing the honor of citizenship with anyone called illegal – even those who came as children, have grown up as neighbors and would be willing to give their lives in the nation’s cause.

During the current lame-duck session of Congress, Republicans have been correct to emphasize economic concerns, which the public prioritized in the recent election. But supporting the Dream Act would send a useful message – that some Republicans in victory are capable of governing for the sake of everyone.

But the GOP isn’t interested in proving its sense of duty to everyone. It only wants to satisfy its rich backers (witness its fealty to keeping tax cuts for the rich) and throw a few crumbs to its narrow-minded base. For those reasons, the DREAM Act is probably doomed in the Senate, where Republicans have pledged to block votes on everything else until they get the extension of tax cuts for the rich.

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Georgian

December 9th, 2010
1:37 pm

Here’s DREAM for you,

D- Democrat
R- Removal
E- Effort
A- After
M- Moronic Rule

Georgian

December 9th, 2010
1:37 pm

George W,

Good substitution.

ButtHead

December 9th, 2010
1:41 pm

I love it when a liberal loses a vote they call the GOP naiveté, uninformed, or any host of names. Since liberals “claim” to believe in democracy why don’t they just shut up, sit down and move on… The truth of the matter is that the liberals want to pick and chose which laws they like, or don’t like. Why is that OK with the left?

horsefeathers

December 9th, 2010
1:43 pm

@Goodgrief….Amen. Cynthia, what part of being a criminal do you not understand. A criminal is a criminal. Why is it you can’t go by our laws and the constitution. It was written for a reason. I think most people in this country have no problem with immigrants who come in this country the right way. Running the border is NOT the correct way. That just makes one a criminal. I think it should be a Felony for anyone to ‘run’ the border and come in illegally. Period! Smoke that one over, would you!

Georgian

December 9th, 2010
1:47 pm

Welcome to the NEW WORLD ORDER Democrats. Republicans call the shots and you will have to side with GOP backed plans from President Obama the rest of his Presidency. HAHA

Watching the painful expression on Nancy Pelosi every time she has to face that camera and fake that aldready fake smile makes me so happy. She is so miserable, and its bc Republicans are getting the RIGHT types of things done and her liberal agendas are going by the way-side.

ButtHead

December 9th, 2010
1:51 pm

Please some liberal explain why it is OK for ILLIGAL aliens to use our system in ways the Americans can’t? My mother who paid her taxes for over 50 years needed some help, so I took her to the guvment offices to apply for food stamps and some help with the rent. After several visits it became obvious what a farce this is. Did you know that they have a “Spanish Only” window; I watched illegal aliens walk in show no ID and have nothing but a pitiful story and no visible income, and they got $400 housing assistance and $300 food assistance. I guess they needed the money to pay for their $600 cell phone, and a car payment on the Denali. My mother because she made $12,000 a year on social security qualified for NOTHING, zero. So come on liberals please tell me why and illegal alien who NEVER paid into the system gets help and my mother does not?

Some People are stupid

December 9th, 2010
2:09 pm

Seriously have any of yall ever read the DREAM ACT?

Billyboy

December 9th, 2010
2:10 pm

Cynthia, it appears your heart is in the right place, but you mind is either blinded or sick. Please read the bill and conduct a thorough analysis.

The holes in the bill as pointed out by many of the comments are large.

The economy is in the trouble today because big government (both D and R) tried to give everything to everyone. This bill will cause even more troubles if passed as is.

Kamchak

December 9th, 2010
2:12 pm

Welcome to the NEW WORLD ORDER Democrats.

Clearly, someone has lost their Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie

HDB

December 9th, 2010
2:13 pm

Georgian December 9th, 2010
1:37 pm

Two things you need to think about:
DREAM:
Desires
Reached
Especially
After
Motivation…..

and REPUBLICAN:
Racist
Egomaniacal
Parsimonious
Uncaring
Ba$taards
Loquacious
Ignorant
Conniving
Annointed
Negatives…..

It goes both wats……

George W

December 9th, 2010
2:16 pm

HDB…..true but atleast we can spell!!!

HDB

December 9th, 2010
2:17 pm

Georgian

December 9th, 2010
1:47 pm
Welcome to the NEW WORLD ORDER Democrats. Republicans call the shots and you will have to side with GOP backed plans from President Obama the rest of his Presidency. HAHA

Lest you forget — two KEY things:Democrats still control the SENATE…and also the VETO!! If the GOP-hatched plans in the House are NOT in the nation’s best interest, it won’t get through the Senate…and the Presidential VETO won’t be overridden!!

Let’s see what comes forth….and what doesn’t get through!!

HDB

December 9th, 2010
2:19 pm

George W December 9th, 2010
2:16 pm

I can admit to my mistakes…and mis-strokes! No problems here!! But sometimes…to get through the editor……

George W

December 9th, 2010
2:19 pm

HDB….while the Dems do have control of the Senate….there are enough conservative Dems in the Senate to get this bill through…..Thank God!

carlosgvv

December 9th, 2010
2:23 pm

Butthead

Here is why illegals get help and your mother dosen’t.

1. Politicans want them for their vote.
2. Business wants them for cheap labor.
3. The Catholic Church wants them for parishoners.

Any questions?

ronald

December 9th, 2010
2:30 pm

Kamchak said- “Class envy? Don’t make me laugh. I actually create something tangible, when all you do is move money around among accounts.”

Look Kamchak. You work in construction, OK? No education necessary and you’re probably working with illegal immigrants all day. Congratulations on your “tangible work”. I got paid to make money for clients. Somehow in your distorted mind, money isn’t “something tangible? People like you would gladly do the type of work that I did, if only they had the skill set, but usually they don’t, which is why they end up in construction. Thats reality.

Also, I’ve read many of your posts on many threads here and if 1 thing is certain, it is that you are eaten up with class envy. You have always demonstrated open hostility toward anyone that you view as being wealthy or successful. That is your problem, not mine. You are a dinasour who is trying to apply your 1940’s education to a modern economy where the pieces don’t fit together like they used to. Instead of accepting the new reality around you, you continue to try to put your square peg into the round hole and you b*tch at everyone who is able to succeed in modern times. In short, you are an aging moron who’s best years are far far behind you.

HDB

December 9th, 2010
2:32 pm

George W
December 9th, 2010
2:19 pm

For a compromise, I didn’t have a problem with the bill;; what I would have hoped would be addressed is this:

1) Closing ALL loopholes to allow corporations to take jobs offshore
2) Lowering of corporate tax rate to 20%
3) Raising of the upper-marginal rate to 39.5%
4) Maintaining the low-and-middle class marginal tax rates
5) R&D tax credits for renewable energy (taken out by Reagan)
6) Raising the level of the upper marginal rate to cover $1M and more

THAT would have been BETTER!!!

George W

December 9th, 2010
2:34 pm

HDB….I don’t disagree with you on all points. Except raising the upper marginal rate.

Some People are stupid

December 9th, 2010
2:35 pm

OH snap..George W and HDB have reached a consensus

HDB

December 9th, 2010
2:37 pm

Some People are stupid
December 9th, 2010
2:35 pm

See…there are ways that progressives and conservatives can reach common ground….

Jesse Jackson has a scheme for you......

December 9th, 2010
2:38 pm

Why are Liberals so ignorant? Can someone PLEASE explain that to me? I mean they (Liberals) have NO clue or sense of reality…

HDB

December 9th, 2010
2:41 pm

Jesse Jackson has a scheme for you……
December 9th, 2010
2:38 pm

Please clarify…..I could ask you this:

Why are Conservatives so sanctimonious? They don’t EVEN have a clue…….

Ragnar Danneskjöld

December 9th, 2010
2:45 pm

Great anti-deficit idea just surfaced on the Limbaugh show: (a) abolish tuition tax credits, and (b) tax, to the recipient, all scholarship monies as “income.” Just think how much tax money the government loses because of that loophole.

Jesse Jackson has a scheme for you......

December 9th, 2010
2:47 pm

Dear HDB,

Conservatives are the party of freedom and liberty…..trying to save this country that Obama, Pelosi, and Reed are currently destroying. Thank Goodness for the midterm elections……

George W

December 9th, 2010
2:47 pm

HDB…What makes you think we are Sanctimonious? We feel the same about Demoncrats.

Some People are stupid

December 9th, 2010
2:48 pm

Ragnar-

So you want to tax scholarship money as income? Assuming you tax it as ordinary income, that would probably force college students to file independent of their parents and then make them eligible for EITC.

I think the tuition tax credit was part of the Bush Tax Cuts?

Jesse Jackson has a scheme for you......

December 9th, 2010
2:50 pm

We need the Fair Tax!!!!!!

Some People are stupid

December 9th, 2010
2:54 pm

Wouldn’t the Fair Tax be a hinderence on this economy?

Jesse Jackson has a scheme for you......

December 9th, 2010
2:57 pm

Just the opposite……The Fair Tax would SAVE this country….financially speaking….Read the book.

Kamchak

December 9th, 2010
3:01 pm

No ronnie-poo, you create nothing. You sit at a desk all day running that mouth of yours, transferring numbers around from one account to another, and skimming off a small—or not so small portion which is in effect no more than a transaction fee.

Some People are stupid

December 9th, 2010
3:02 pm

Jesse Jackson has a scheme for you……

Wow, long name.

I say that because it appears the America doesn’t like to pay taxes. Wouldn’t we just adjust our spending habits to lower our tax burden. Then also, wouldn’t the sticker shock of seeing prices jump 23% kinda lower demand. In this economy, people have shown a tendency to save as opposed to spend. I think it would have worked better prior to the recession.

George W

December 9th, 2010
3:03 pm

Some People…..wouldnt seeing your paychecks increase by 23% possibly increase your spending habits?

Some People are stupid

December 9th, 2010
3:04 pm

Jesse Jackson has a scheme for you……

Also, are you saying it would save the country just because you read it in a book??

ronald

December 9th, 2010
3:04 pm

People don’t get paid to create nothing, unless you have a gov’t job. I created wealth for clients. You built houses.

ronald

December 9th, 2010
3:05 pm

The guys who “create nothing” as you say…well they get fired and then fall into other, less desirable careers…like construction.

Kamchak's gerbil

December 9th, 2010
3:06 pm

Kamy – I’ll be there in an hour – I clipped my nails!!!!

George W

December 9th, 2010
3:07 pm

Ronald…..So you are like Bernie Madoff?

Some People are stupid

December 9th, 2010
3:10 pm

George W-
Why would my paycheck increase by 23%.(Sidenote, i take a distribution)
Just to fix your statement, I think your paycheck would increase by the amount of taxes taken out for federal and payroll, depending on your tax rate, it might increase more than 23%.

Second, check the rate of saving in this country post recession. That’s why I said it probably would be better pre recession. The saving level has increased since the recession. also, people have an aversion to paying taxes, wouldn’t I just adjust my spending habits to pay the lowest amount of taxes possible, which in turn would do harm to the economy.

George W

December 9th, 2010
3:12 pm

Some People……In some cases you are right. Just like in today’s market, some spend more, some save more. You have to look at the larger picture. Yes this could do harm to the production market short term but in time it would increase and improve the overall economy.

Some People are stupid

December 9th, 2010
3:25 pm

George W-

I’m not to sure about that. I can’t see myself justify buying a tv that went from 899 to 1105.77. That’s kinda a hard sell. Would you purchase something that just went up 23%

Also, in today’s market, you have more savers than spenders. Not real sure that’s good for the economy. As well as a drop in production in the short term means more job losses in the short term, which further decreases consumer confidence. That’s why I said it might be better in a thriving economy.

George W

December 9th, 2010
3:27 pm

Some People…..A thriving economy may react to the Fair Tax more kindly. However what are our leaders doing to make this economy better? True the tax cut extensions should help.

The costs of good and the “affordability” factor is relative to your perception of value and your budget. If you have more money in your accounts and you bring home more of what you make it will make it easier to justify that $1105.77 television set.

GT/MIT

December 9th, 2010
3:34 pm

ronald:

Never be shamed into justifying your success, as you can, many are patently envious of it.

Some People are stupid

December 9th, 2010
3:35 pm

George W-

The government can’t make an economy good and they can only make it marginally bad(excessively high taxation). However, when consumers quit spending, as a last resort the government is forced to spend. Thats the rules of a recession. In order to keep the flow of money in the economy, someone has to spend. It’s on the consumers to spur the economy. Its a supply and demand economy. We have the supply, we are lacking the demand. The tax cut extension really won’t matter. Before you fly off a handle, what I mean as what was proposed kept the rates for the midlle class the same…the majority of the spending happens in that class…there would have been little change in their rate of spending.
Poor people to spend money, rich people spend money but less frequently.

The cost and affordabilty factor is relative to my budget, however the problem with a recession is it forces people to examine their spending habits. Hence why the level of saving has gone up. I really don’t have any problem with the fair tax, i think it’s regressive but you can work on that, I just think in this climate, it’s unworkable.

Good Grief

December 9th, 2010
3:35 pm

As a non-Republican (but also not a Democrat), I love how people always have to cast Republicans as racist. If you can implant that seed into the mind of someone with no knowledge of the situation, then it doesn’t matter what the Republican says. If you can make people think that Republicans are like Nazis and Fascists, then that’s even better. (nevermind the Nazis were the National Socialist Party and the fascists were big government near-socialists, both of which read leftists).

So well done, HDB at 2:13. You’ve truly struck a deathblow to any argument a conservative can muster.

Some People are stupid

December 9th, 2010
3:41 pm

Good Grief
Actually fascism took parts of both the left and the right.
And the Nazi’s were against both Socialism and Capitalism.
I know it’s weird with their name having socialist in it and all.

ButtHead

December 9th, 2010
3:43 pm

HDB, you8 could have just said FairTax.org..

Fix-It

December 9th, 2010
3:49 pm

I do believe that HDB, Granny and Kamchak all live in the same commune drink the same Kool-Aid; smoking the same bong and worshipping the government..

Kamchak's gerbil

December 9th, 2010
3:55 pm

Ever notice how Kamy goes away when I post on this blog?????

HDB

December 9th, 2010
3:59 pm

Jesse Jackson has a scheme for you……
December 9th, 2010
2:47 pm

Lest you forget — it was conservatives that were the racists of the early 20th Century; it was conservatives that were against Civil Rights!! It was Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater that supported segregation — now, It’s Rand Paul!! It was LIBERALS that were against segregation…and that signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964! LIBERAL is derived from the verb “to liberate” — which means “to FREE; to EXPAND”…THAT’S where freedom comes from!!!

Please recheck your history….and your definitions!!

George W December 9th, 2010
2:47 pm

The preponderance of Democrats are NOT hypocritically pious (not saying that there are thoe who fit the definition!) nor shallow!! Both sides want the best for this nation; we just see different sides of the same coin!! Solutions for solving this nation’s ills will require BOTH sides to work together. In some cases, the liberal approach is the methodology; in others, the conservative….and for some, a hybrid of both!! The problem is that for many, they only view their SINGULAR approach as the only correct approach…..and that just isn’t the case!!

HDB

December 9th, 2010
4:02 pm

Fix-It
December 9th, 2010
3:49 pm

WRONG!! I’m flexible enough to look at multiple approaches…and know that there is NO singular method to solve any problem!! The Obama/GOP compromise is a good thing….just as health care reform is laso a good thing!!

The government can NOT solve all problems…but neither can JUST the private sector! It takes BOTH working in sync to make things work!!