GOP turns its back on patriotic and productive illegal immigrants

One of the more detrimental features of the current Republican Party is its indulgence of the stubborn nativism that characterizes its base. That was on full display last night, when only eight Republicans in the House of Representatives voted for the DREAM Act, which would provide a path to citizenship for young illegal immigrants who have demonstrated ambition, good character and talent.
The DREAM Act is no massive plan for “amnesty;” it is narrowly tailored to young folk who have lived in the U.S. for at least five years. They would be eligible for citizenship only if they served in the military for two years or finished two years of college. They would join the ranks of patriotic and productive Americans.
Michael Gerson, chief speechwriter for George W. Bush, had called on Republicans in Congress to support the bill:

It would be difficult to define a more sympathetic group of potential Americans. They must demonstrate that they are law-abiding and education-oriented. Some seek to defend the country they hope to join. The Defense Department supports the Dream Act as a source of quality volunteers. Business groups welcome a supply of college-educated workers. The Department of Homeland Security endorses the legislation so it can focus on other, more threatening, groups of illegal immigrants. . .

Whatever its legislative fate, the Dream Act is effective at stripping away pretense. Opponents of this law don’t want earned citizenship for any illegal immigrant – even those personally guilty of no crime, even those who demonstrate their skills and character. The Dream Act would be a potent incentive for assimilation. But for some, assimilation clearly is not the goal. They have no intention of sharing the honor of citizenship with anyone called illegal – even those who came as children, have grown up as neighbors and would be willing to give their lives in the nation’s cause.

During the current lame-duck session of Congress, Republicans have been correct to emphasize economic concerns, which the public prioritized in the recent election. But supporting the Dream Act would send a useful message – that some Republicans in victory are capable of governing for the sake of everyone.

But the GOP isn’t interested in proving its sense of duty to everyone. It only wants to satisfy its rich backers (witness its fealty to keeping tax cuts for the rich) and throw a few crumbs to its narrow-minded base. For those reasons, the DREAM Act is probably doomed in the Senate, where Republicans have pledged to block votes on everything else until they get the extension of tax cuts for the rich.

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old-timer

December 9th, 2010
10:55 am

My ancestors came here LEGALLY through Ellis Island….Had their children educated and became legal residents. To the rest of you; People are considered ILLEGAL when they they enter the country illegally!

Some People are stupid

December 9th, 2010
10:55 am

NIF-

So do you think that people should have a choice whether or not they support an issue?

You should and do have a choice on what your support. Not real sure what you are trying to get at.

Georgian

December 9th, 2010
10:56 am

I usually take the paper poll numbers are on and use it in my bathroom when I run out of Charmin. Thats about what I think of poll numbers.

shaggy

December 9th, 2010
10:57 am

Too bad the “illegals” didn’t think to apply for entry before breaking the law. Then, they could be “legal” aliens or even naturalized citizens by now. Yes, too bad.

George W

December 9th, 2010
10:57 am

Let see….Dems are for:
Illegal Imigration
Welfare
Food Stamps
Extended Unemployment benefits
Medicare

Is there any wonder why there party is in trouble right now?

Nothing Is Free

December 9th, 2010
10:58 am

Some People are stupid

- -You should and do have a choice on what your support.- -

If the Dream Act had been passed, I would not have that choice.

Yo

December 9th, 2010
10:59 am

CT,
Maybe we should just print more money to support all these great social programs. Also keep taxing the rich more, they wont ever run out of money because they steal it all from the poor anyway.

I think you are the narrow minded bigot that you always speak of.

If the AJC had some decent editors and reporters….

markie mark

December 9th, 2010
11:00 am

I know Rafe…its amazing. Granny, Matti, USinUK, and a lot of liberals on this blog have opinions I dont agree with, but they are honest enough to defend their positions. Kam just likes to be cute with pithy little sayings and one word answers. I dont know if he is not intellectually honest enough to defend what he says, but when shown a response like I did today, that shows what he APPEARED to Advocate (thats for you, Kamchak) then he retreats into the “show me the quote” crap. Its the most intellectually dishonest thing that I have seen on this blog (with the exception of CT, who starts off by twisting things to look good in her world)

Kamchak

December 9th, 2010
11:00 am

and as to your question of where was the outrage at Reagan (and dont forget Carter). There was a hell of a lot of outrage.

No markie mark, that dog won’t hunt.

Just like Good Grief you fail to acknowledge that it is only after someone else points out a previous instance, that you jump on board and say yeah, I was against that too.

Chris D.

December 9th, 2010
11:01 am

Hmm…Ms. Tucker is always so big on people paying their “fair share” of taxes, yet these criminals pay NO income taxes…How is that fair? If the Dems want to give amnesty to people here illegally, then payment of their back tax earnings should certainly be made before ANY amnesty should be granted. That would be only “fair” wouldn’t it?

shaggy

December 9th, 2010
11:01 am

Has anyone noticed that Cynthia has been putting up an inflammatory topic and disappearing? Why doesn’t she come out and play…at least support her non-position?

Rafe Hollister

December 9th, 2010
11:01 am

Someone who moves to another country because they like the better living conditions there, may be wise shoppers, but I don’t think that makes them “Patriots”. A Patriot is someone who stays and fights to make their own country better. Mexico has some of the worlds best natural resources and farming conditions, but all the wealth generated is consumed with corruption and inefficiency. These “Patriots” need to fix their country.

Georgian

December 9th, 2010
11:01 am

George W,

You forgot gay marriage, abortion, climate change, and pot legalization.

Jason

December 9th, 2010
11:02 am

Why is it that Cynthia, and most other liberals, so badly want make it possible for illegal aliens to side step the immigration process that has always been in place in this country. Given the hostile world that we live in today it just seems all too obvious that allowing the free flow of illegals is just a bad idea. I would recommend picking another battle.

Georgian

December 9th, 2010
11:03 am

Markie Mark and Good Grief,

Kamchak is an old timer liberal know-it-all. His ways are right, you can’t argue with him, because he is always right. (Or so he believes)

Some People are stupid

December 9th, 2010
11:04 am

Nothing is Free-
Not have a choice of what?

Sorry so late with the response…was trying to catch up .

markie mark

December 9th, 2010
11:04 am

Kamchak, I dont live in the “28 year ago” world. I am trying to make it better today, regardless of who did what then. Those days are over. And I agree with his response to you. I have no intention of going over every decision that I disagreed with in the last 30 or so years. Its a pointless exercise, and once again you are probably the most intellectually dishonest blogger here.

Some People are stupid

December 9th, 2010
11:06 am

Harry Callahan-
Subsidy-Monetary assistance granted by a government to a person or group in support of an enterprise regarded as being in the public interest.

An unsubsidized loan carries no financial assistance. A below market interest rate is not a subsidy. So when I get a car at 0% interest is the bank subsidizing my loan.

George W

December 9th, 2010
11:07 am

I dont understand why Dems cant get behind the idea of legal immigration???

DEMS SUPPORT CRIMINALS!!!

Nothing Is Free

December 9th, 2010
11:07 am

The great thing about America is it’s checks and balances.

Every few years, the dims convince the populas that they aren’t Marxist, that they care about people and they love this country.

Then they get in power.

Two years later, after reeling from their attempt at changing our country into the USSR, the population kicks them back into the back yard.

The last time this happened was 18 years ago and they haven’t been in power since. Now, once again, they showed their true colors and every way that we were allowed, we threw them out again.

God Bless America. The founding fathers were some smart people.

Good Grief

December 9th, 2010
11:09 am

Kamchak – I’ve already apologized to you for not providing every ounce of support for my points of view. I’m not like you ’silly libs.’ I don’t require someone else to tell me what to think. I’ve looked at both sides of arguments and formulated my own opinions. But again, I’m sorry that my ’silly con’ ideas aren’t good enough for the all-might liberal elite intellect. if only I could get over this notion of personal responsibility and let teh government do everything for me. Maybe, just maybe, Kamchak would accept me as one of his own.

Oh well, I’d rather live in the woods with these modern conveniences than allow the government to dictate to me where I can go, what I can do, how much of the money I earn I am allowed to keep. But props to you, Kamchak, if you’re comfortable with a government that is the great and wonderful nanny.

markie mark

December 9th, 2010
11:10 am

And by the way….just for the record Kam, you didnt bring up the Carter years….I did.

LES

December 9th, 2010
11:12 am

Although a “conservative”, I do appreciate the perspective of other viewpoints that challenge actions taken by the Republican party. While I don’t necesarily agree with your initial observation about stubborn nativism, it’s a fair “challenge” to be made.

What I did find disappointing was your need to point to the GOP’s need to “only satisfy rich backers”. You shifted from a potentially insightful observations to ignorant generalizations.

You would be so much more effective if you “stuck” to making insightful observations to stimulate thought on “both sides of the aisle”.

Kamchak

December 9th, 2010
11:12 am

Take a Stand?!

OK for the umpteenth time—

This is an excerpt from a piece that our hostess penned in 2007

…here’s some counterintuitive advice for the Democratic ranks: Don’t hedge. Lead. Do the right thing. Come out clearly and forcefully for putting illegal immigrants already in the country on a path to citizenship. This is no time to trim or triangulate. Show some spine. America is ready for reasoned leadership on this issue.

…So let the GOP be the party of fear and division. Democrats ought to stand for something else. The modern Democratic Party also made its choice in the 1960s, choosing hope over fear, tolerance over division and the beloved community over bigotry.

…This is no time for Democrats to turn their backs on that heritage. America is too generous and compassionate to expel millions of productive and otherwise law-abiding people. The nation has taken advantage of their labor for decades, and it would be inhumane (and outrageously expensive) to round them up and send them back.

But Americans also want to be assured that this is the last time a broad legalization option is offered to illegal immigrants. Democrats ought to make it clear that they’ll enforce the borders and crack down on employers who hire illegally, a cheaper and more effective strategy for addressing the problem than building fences. After a few CEOs have done the perp walk for illegal hiring, they’ll stop offering jobs to those without proper documents. And when word gets across the border that U.S. companies have stopped hiring, those laborers will stop coming. They come for jobs, after all, not jihad.

This is a win-win platform. Not only is it wise and honorable, calling on the highest ideals of a nation of immigrants, it can also produce victories at the ballot box. Last week, Virginia Democrats made gains in state and local elections even though the state has been embroiled in fiery debate over illegal immigration. As an analysis by the Washington Post concluded, voting trends didn’t benefit “those who campaigned the loudest for tough sanctions against illegal immigrants.”

Let Republicans take the low road. It doesn’t end in a place the rest of the country wants to go.

Yeah, what she said.

carlosgvv

December 9th, 2010
11:14 am

We now have over 12 million illegal aliens in our country. Just out of curiosity, have any of the politicians and/or others responsible for this stepped up to the plate to accept responsibility? Before we start accepting young illegals into the Military and college shouldn’t we do as much as possible to keep any more from coming here?

Equality 7-2521

December 9th, 2010
11:19 am

I wonder how many “good jobs” we might have for Americans, say operating crop harvesting equipment, if we did not have so many illegal immigrants willing to do it manually.

Had there been a “need” to develop high tech equipment to harvest crops, we would have done so. But with an abundance of unskilled labor flooding our nation, we have not bothered.

Cynthia, your columns could be combined this week and we could call it…..

“Cause and Effect”.

Scout

December 9th, 2010
11:22 am

Cynthia:

That’s about the biggest oxymoron I’ve seen in awhile (other than patriotic liberal).

How can one be patriotic and the first thing they do is break our laws.

Sorry, this one doesn’t compute.

George W

December 9th, 2010
11:28 am

Did the tread die?

Steven Marshall

December 9th, 2010
11:32 am

Ms. Tucker….twice in your article you insulted the GOP base. I guess you forgot who fought for “your” civil rights in the 60’s so you could be a minority, woman “so-called” journalist. Apparently you haven’t read the bill.

Libertarian

December 9th, 2010
11:32 am

I think anyone can see that we cannot deport all these illegals. The dreams act is good in that it gives a path to citizenship for illegals who want to succeed and be productive. I would rather see these illigals get citizenship than see people who never work and have 6 kids stay on welfare and food stamps their whole lives. The only thing I would change about the dream act is I would require 4 years military service or a 4 year degree. I’m not sure how it reads…but they should be required to get an actual degree (not just waste time in college without getting a degree). And I think a 4 year degree is more beneficial than a 2 year.

markie mark

December 9th, 2010
11:37 am

What in !@@# did that long winded cut and paste have to do with YOU taking a stand? God, what a weasel response. I am beginning to believe you are gutless, Kam….not that you care. But you stand on the sidelines, throw bombs, and when someone points out that exactly what you are complaining about is taking place…..nothing. You havent even acknowledged once that I gave you an example that showed EXACTLY what you were pointing out was already being done. And Obama and Eric Holder were fighting it tooth and nail. Next you will ask for the quote where I saw that YOU said that you were for the current administration….lord…..

shaggy

December 9th, 2010
11:37 am

Libertarian,
Specifically, why can’t we deport all “illegal” aliens? Is there some kind of limit to our deportation? I think not.
As I stated earlier, let them go back to their own countries and apply for legal entry.

G'Vegas Dawg

December 9th, 2010
11:37 am

I don’t see why it didn’t just pass. It would benefit no one would it? Only our democratic party could come up with a bill that says an ILLEGAL immigrants could earn citizenship by showing that they are “law abiding”. If they are here illegally then they are not law abiding are they?

Kamchak

December 9th, 2010
11:39 am

What in !@@# did that long winded cut and paste have to do with YOU taking a stand?

What part of “Yeah, what she said,” seems to be giving you the most trouble?

George W

December 9th, 2010
11:39 am

Markie Mark – - You will find that Kam is even more brainless that CTucker. Dont bother dealing with Kam no point.

Nothing Is Free

December 9th, 2010
11:39 am

Libertarian

I partially agree. I’m all for the military service. In fact, I thought it was already the case that if a non-Amerrican serves in the armed forces for so long, they can already become a citizen.

College? No. That’s not a free service for IUS citizens. Why would it be free for non-Americans?

markie mark

December 9th, 2010
11:41 am

“After a few CEOs have done the perp walk for illegal hiring, they’ll stop offering jobs to those without proper documents. And when word gets across the border that U.S. companies have stopped hiring, those laborers will stop coming. They come for jobs, after all, not jihad.”

And this is EXACTLY what the Justice Department is trying TO STOP. God, Kam, you and CT cant have it both ways. And if you can dig up this blog from 2007, you can dang sure find yesterdays story here in the AJC where the Supreme Court is taking the case….

George W

December 9th, 2010
11:41 am

Nothing is Free……I agree, if an illegal wants to spend 4 years in our military to gain citizenship. I would be ok with that.

Georgian

December 9th, 2010
11:41 am

Markie Mark,

Even if you show Kam facts to his face, he still will argue with you that his point of view is correct.

markie mark

December 9th, 2010
11:42 am

the point is about you “agreeing” with Tucker? You twist yourself endlesly to avoid making/typing a direct statement FROM YOU so that you never have to see it thrown back at you with proof. Gutless, gutless, gutless…

we the people

December 9th, 2010
11:42 am

GG and her ilk say, STUPID! IMMORAL! UNCOMPASSIONITE, when there are no facts to stand on.

Here are some facts:

Arthur C. Brooks, a professor at Syracuse University, published “Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism.” The surprise is that liberals are markedly less charitable than conservatives.

Although liberal families’ incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household

Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.

People who reject the idea that “government has a responsibility to reduce income inequality” give an average of four times more than people who accept that proposition.

Two influences on charitable behavior are religion and attitudes about the proper role of government.

While conservatives tend to regard giving as a personal rather than governmental responsibility, some liberals consider private charity a retrograde phenomenon — a poor palliative for an inadequate welfare state, and a distraction from achieving adequacy by force, by increasing taxes.

Ralph Nader, running for president in 2000, said: “A society that has more justice is a society that needs less charity.” Brooks, however, warns: “If support for a policy that does not exist … substitutes for private charity, the needy are left worse off than before. It is one of the bitterest ironies of liberal politics today that political opinions are apparently taking the place of help for others.”

Nothing Is Free

December 9th, 2010
11:43 am

George W

I try to stay away from calling people who think differently than myself brainless. I think Ms Tucker is smart and that’s why I can’t understand most of her stances. Kammy? Not so much. He is pretty much the perfect liberal.

Abolish HHS

December 9th, 2010
11:43 am

Remember the Alamo: Destroy Mexico

markie mark

December 9th, 2010
11:43 am

I know about Kam, all….but his smugness occasionally is difficult to see….and if someone follows a blog like this with our two posts, it will be obvious that he is an empty suit…

George W

December 9th, 2010
11:44 am

Nothing……please tell me why you believe CTucker is smart. Please give me one piece of evidence that would make you think that her thoughts are well thought out and supportive?

Purple People Eater

December 9th, 2010
11:45 am

Why don’t they apply for citizenship? Is it that difficult? Or would it require learning the LAWS of our country?

Thank goodness for the Republicans for upholding our LAWS. Get with the program Dems.

shaggy

December 9th, 2010
11:46 am

1) Go back to country of origin
2) Apply for legal entry to this country, acquiring the proper visa for your situation
3) Join the military if you want to fast track.. after 1 & 2, you are here legally, so that would weigh in your favor
4) Pay out of state college tuitions, unless you have satisfied state residency requirements – no free schooling, unless academic scholarship has been offered that is equal to what a citizen would get.

Libertarian

December 9th, 2010
11:47 am

Shaggy…

Perhaps we “can” deport all illegals but I don’t want my tax dollars being wasted on that. It would cost too much. And, in my opinion, if illegals are going to be here, I’d like to get them to a point where they are paying taxes (ie get them educated, then they get jobs, then they pay taxes). Right now the majority of illegals are moochers (ie they use our services, and don’t pay taxes). Of course a consumption-based tax system would solve that problem but that’s not gonna happen.

NIF-
I don’t think college should be free for them.

Kamchak

December 9th, 2010
11:47 am

the point is about you “agreeing” with Tucker?

Of course.

Why should I rewrite what I consider to be the most cogent position on this issue?

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Ms. Tucker–I agree with dB.

You really do need smarter trolls here.

Have you considered outsourcing?

Nothing Is Free

December 9th, 2010
11:48 am

George W.

I just did a quick search. An alien here LEGALLY does have the option of serving as a pathway to citizenship. I stand and salute those good people. All it takes is a work visa.

God Bless America!!!