Portland terror suspect was probably turned in by his family

Many Americans stand ready to accuse all Muslims of supporting terrorism and waging jihad. Those folks claim that the U.S. government should engage in active profiling of all Muslims, even if they are loyal Americans.
But the recent arrest of 19-year-old Mohamed Mohamud, who wanted to blow up a Christmas-tree-lighting ceremony in downtown Portland, shows how important it is for U.S. legal authorities to treat Muslims with respect and to cultivate their support. According to Time magazine, the FBI only knew about Mohamud’s activities because his family turned him in.

Mohamud’s mother and father and his two sisters have remained silent since his arrest. (The Oregonian identified the parents as Mariam and Osman Barre; they reportedly split up a few years ago.) However, a prominent member of the Somali community in Portland (estimated to number 8,000) says a relative played some role in helping to put the FBI on the young man’s trail — though that relative was almost certainly unaware of the scale it would assume. “Before this happened, the father informed Homeland Security and the FBI that something was going on with his son,” claims Isgow Mohamed, executive director of the Northwest Somali Community Organization, who says he knows Mohamud’s family well and had been in touch with them. “This a good family. The father is an engineer at Intel. This is not somebody who is on public assistance. He is a family man, a businessman, a religious man, a soccer player.”

Mohamed said emphatically that Mohamud’s alleged plot should not be seen as representative of Somali Americans. “First of all, we’re really sorry, we do not support terror,” he tells TIME. “We came to live here and not bother anyone. We left a civil war.” Mohamed says he believes that Mohamud was influenced by things on the Internet and that the Somali community in Portland will continue to do its part: “We are not going to hide them. We are also Americans.” (There does not seem to be a link to Somalia’s al-Shabab, the militant group that says it is allied with al-Qaeda and which some security experts fear may be trying to expand its influence beyond the Horn of Africa.)

In our ongoing battle against religious extremists, one of the scariest developments has been the emergence of homegrown jihadists who are intent on destroying the U.S., which has given them refuge and opportunity. It’s disgusting.
But we cannot fight them effectively by turning the U.S. into a police state which unfairly rounds up patriotic citizens based on their religion. We don’t need a re-run of World War II, when loyal citizens of Japanese ancestry were interned. We need to continue what we’ve been doing — showing Muslims that they are valued citizens who will be treated fairly. That earns their trust and cooperation in the battle against terrorists.

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Starring Kam Fong as Chin Ho

November 30th, 2010
8:58 am

Great, 2 on our side. Now we need to get the other billion or so to leave the dark side.

Keep up the good fight!

November 30th, 2010
8:59 am

Homegrown jihadists and extreme religious nuts come in all religions….unfortunately.

Georgian

November 30th, 2010
9:00 am

I see nothing wrong with assuring that a person is indeed not a terrorist.

Like the saying goes, its better to be safe than sorry.

Peadawg

November 30th, 2010
9:03 am

“Like the saying goes, its better to be safe than sorry.”

You would think! But not with political correctness pansies like Cynthia running around though…

barking frog

November 30th, 2010
9:03 am

The young man was evidently passionate in his beliefs.An
examination of his antagonism to society might do more
to help eradicate these actions than anything else. When
we get past the ‘We’re the greatest’ and look in the mirror
progress will be made.

Keep up the good fight!

November 30th, 2010
9:05 am

Pea…I agree. Let’s put all Christians in lockdown camps because of the Christians that are killing doctors. Better safe than sorry. To hell with PC.

granny godzilla

November 30th, 2010
9:11 am

ctucker

November 30th, 2010
9:12 am

Starring Kam Fong@8:58, If there were a billion Muslim terrorists, there would be hundreds of thousands of Americans dead from terrorism

Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 30th, 2010
9:13 am

Good news, thanks CT. I think the “problems” with the Americanism of the Muslim community are mostly misperception by those of us outside the community.

However, there is a sociology theory floating around out there, the third-generation theory, mostly about immigrants, that would also apply to Muslim immigrants. First generation has difficulty with language and customs, struggles to adapt. Second generation grasps Americanism, lives the dream. Third generation becomes thoroughly American, spoiled brats, rebel against the “system,” rejects the core values of the country.

This “third generation” theory is the only argument I’ve heard in support of compulsory military service that I cannot answer, the only effective challenge to my libertarian support of the volunteer military. It also effectively addresses the real risks posed by the Islamists, the home-grown terrorists.

Georgian

November 30th, 2010
9:16 am

How bout lets put all Dems in lockdown camps bc of the softness of our nation to allow the leaking of 250,000 cables that are going to cause so much damage. Yet the AG and Prez are gonna “prosecute”. Yeah right. There’s no doubt what would have happened if this had happened 100 years ago, even 50. I would say even 5 years ago they would have been afraid to. But no one fears Obama or the USA anymore, they think they can push us around and get away with it. And they are right, bc we are more concerned with appearances sake and another countries idea of us instead of making us as safe as possible.

Georgian

November 30th, 2010
9:18 am

Im surprised Cynthia’s not doing a story on the NAACP’s summit on the “Return of Segregation” in schools.

Ponder

November 30th, 2010
9:19 am

and yet another example of the result of CT and other libs warm and fuzzy PC –

“…What is ironic is that the operation that found and stopped Mohamud is precisely the kind of law enforcement work that Portland’s leaders, working with the American Civil Liberties Union, rejected during the Bush years. In April 2005, the Portland city council voted 4 to 1 to withdraw Portland city police officers from participating in the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force. Mayor Tom Potter said the FBI refused to give him a top-secret security clearance so he could make sure the officers weren’t violating state anti-discrimination laws that bar law enforcement from targeting suspects on the basis of their religious or political beliefs…”

Source — Washington Examiner

TnGelding

November 30th, 2010
9:20 am

The fewer of these valued citizens the better if we want to preserve our culture. They need to stay home and make it a better place to live.

Peadawg

November 30th, 2010
9:21 am

“Christians that are killing doctors.”

You mean the abortion doctors who are killing babies?

granny godzilla

November 30th, 2010
9:21 am

Georgian

You read Palins tweet didn’t you?

From MMA

Palin Plugs Book In Foolish Wikileaks Tweet
November 29, 2010 12:10 pm ET — Alan Pyke
This morning, Sarah Palin used Twitter to remind the world that you can never overstate her capacity for ignorant, self-promotional statements about things that are actually important. In less than 140 characters, the half-term governor managed to blame the new Wikileaks release on the government and still plug her new book.

Over at Mother Jones, David Corn explains why this is so astonishingly dumb:

Inexplicable? Does she not understand the difference between apples and nuclear reactors? The two instances she links have little in common. In the case of her book, she managed to get a judge to order Gawker to take down a post showing portions of her book after the website had put them up. And the judge in this case was following precedent established when The Nation magazine was successfully sued by Harper & Row in the 1970s after publishing excerpts of former President Gerald Ford’s memoirs before the book was released. The Supreme Court, deciding the case in favor of the publisher, said media outlets could not, under a claim of fair use, publish a significant portion of a copyrighted book (accepting the argument that this could weaken the commercial value of the book). Palin’s lawyers took advantage of this ruling, in demanding that Gawker not show the actual pages of her book.

Stopping a media leak involving government information before the fact is not the same. The grand-daddy legal decision on this front comes out of the famous Pentagon Papers case, when the Supreme Court ruled that the government could not block newspapers from publishing the secret Pentagon history of the Vietnam war leaked by Daniel Ellsberg to The New York Times and other papers. The guiding principle here: the government does not have the right to impose prior restraint on the media.

TnGelding

November 30th, 2010
9:22 am

It’ll be interesting to see how this plays out, Granny. Don’t expect a conviction.

ra-ra

November 30th, 2010
9:27 am

Peadawg, you think you won the internet battle now! Just wait until next time on…. commenting on the internet… dum dum duuuuumb.

Georgian

November 30th, 2010
9:28 am

Granny,

Actually Im swamped with news of Pelosi losing her post, Reid’s little power, Obama’s mismanagement, Democrats record breaking loses, Republican’s record breaking 600 plus pick up of seats nationwide, Wikileaks leaks, NAACP garbage, Tucker funnies, and so many more lib failures.

Georgian

November 30th, 2010
9:29 am

The REAL GodHatesTrash, Superstar

November 30th, 2010
9:31 am

Yes, this family could not live with the notion of a criminal and murderer in their midst.

This is an excellent example of true family values in action. Would that our rustic Duhmerican “morans” had the same level of ethical and moral development.

Call it like it is

November 30th, 2010
9:31 am

Profile, profile, profile. It is not a dirty word. Tucker no one is saying to go after every single Muslim, but when it comes to trains, planes, buses, subways, yes they need to be looked at. If some yahoo burns a cross in your yard, are the police going to go looking for a little asian girl, a black urban youth, old latino woman, or a young white male? Am I going to get mad that the police start to question white males in your neighborhood that have skin heads and wear black army boots?? No its just common sence.

And you act like its such a big deal that his family turned him in, so what? What family and what normal religion wouldnt do that?

TnGelding

November 30th, 2010
9:31 am

Speaking of failures, can you sa “miserable failure?”

granny godzilla

November 30th, 2010
9:34 am

Georgian

So you are managing to keep up with about 1/100th of the topics of the day!

Good for you.

willie lynch

November 30th, 2010
9:37 am

We need more people of courage like these who are willing to do the right thing regardless of familial ties.

Georgian

November 30th, 2010
9:39 am

Granny,

1/100th? Where have you been? Its all the news, there is some other, but what dominates headlines at the present are the things mentioned above. Sarah Palin, attack her if you wish. She is no public policy figure anymore, just a private citizen working to bring out the best in our nation. She isn’t making this mess we’re in, Obama, Clinton, Reid, Pelosi are….

The REAL GodHatesTrash, Superstar

November 30th, 2010
9:39 am

Profiling is not really the answer. I expect the next wave of terror will have a strong tea-bagger “native Duhmerican” component to it.

Georgian

November 30th, 2010
9:39 am

Lynch,

There’s no proof that the family gave him up other than the word of one of their own….

Drifter

November 30th, 2010
9:39 am

Profiling is the most cost-effective way and sometimes the only way to catch a criminal. The FBI’s Behavioral Science unit has done it effectively for decades. When the profile is done thoroughly, it is so incredibly accurate that it’s no longer a profile, it’s a description of the suspect. It doesn’t take a genius to profile the most likely people to try to take an airplane down. Look at every single one who has tried to do it in the past 10 years and I think you’ll see a pattern…something obvious to a ten year old. But the TSA insists on strip searching or sexually assaulting everyone. Mindless stupidity caused by political correctness.

granny godzilla

November 30th, 2010
9:42 am

Georgian

yes 1/100th.

Apparently you got the gossipy snarky stuff covered effectively.

Joel Edge

November 30th, 2010
9:43 am

“to treat Muslims with respect and to cultivate their support”

Nice warm and fuzzy piece. For all of our security, it still boils down to someone ratting out the criminal. I would guess the there was also some fear of the consequences if this guy had actually succeeded in a plot. The recent fire at the mosque does seem like track covering. As mentioned by one of the commenters on Jay’s blog. They might want to keep digging.

Keep up the good fight!

November 30th, 2010
9:45 am

No Pea…I mean doctors performing lawful acts but radical Christians deem offensive or “killing” and then act on their own to kill the doctors.

willie lynch

November 30th, 2010
9:47 am

Joel Edge

November 30th, 2010
9:43 am

The recent fire at the mosque does seem like track covering.

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Conspiracy much?

Georgian

November 30th, 2010
9:48 am

Granny,

Gossip?

So there aren’t 250,000 leaks out there?

Republicans didnt just put a drubbing of biblical proportions on Dems? Dems aren’t jumping ship and changing to Republican? Louisiana didn’t just change their House to Repub control for the first time since Reconstruction? Repubs didn’t take over 600 seats nationwide? Obama hasn’t screwed up our national safety by allowing Wikileaks this power? Pelosi isn’t losing her post? Reid isn’t a useless leader of the Senate? Must I continue?

Good Grief

November 30th, 2010
9:48 am

The REAL @ 9:39 -
If name-calling is the only weapon you have in your verbal arsenal, then it becomes very difficult to take you seriously.

Jeanne

November 30th, 2010
9:48 am

Cynthia, the FBI knew about the plot because they set it up. They focused on Mohamed because of his ties with a known Muslim radical with whom Mohamed was in contact. Mohamed believed that the “plot” was the work of this radical.

Jack

November 30th, 2010
9:49 am

I may be wrong, but I don’t think granny likes Palin. The ill will shown toward Palin sort of indicates a bit of sour grapes.

Paul

November 30th, 2010
9:49 am

According to Time?!!? Fox News was reporting that way early and said the parents should be hailed as heroes.

Wait… did I say FoxNews? Sorry… the story’s obviously a lie.

Remember Mr. Underwear Bomber? Was also his family who alerted authorities. That tells us how to emphasize our detection strategy. Sadly, it should also be noted, this was another case of intel agencies not breaking the story, but of citizens coming forward to alert authorities to a new situation.

And I do wonder what would have happened if the parents had not gone to the FBI, but to their local law enforcement authorities, given Portland, OR’s policy by the city council is to not cooperate with federal anti-terror agencies and have opted out of the Anti-Terrorism Task Force.

“But we cannot fight them effectively by turning the U.S. into a police state which unfairly rounds up patriotic citizens based on their religion”

Are you saying religion should in no way play any role in any surveillance or intelligence operations? That a synagogue or a B’ahai temple or a rabbi or a priest should have an equal claim on intelligence resources as a local imam writing articles for “Today’s Jihad”?

Georgian

November 30th, 2010
9:50 am

Lynch,

Word of one of their own…..

Libertarian

November 30th, 2010
9:51 am

Come on Cynthia, I hardly think logical Americans support “rounding up” all Muslims. Logical Americans admit the fact that extreme Muslims want to take out America and its citizens. This is a fact that the left just hates to admit, but its true. It is also true that there are extremists of all kinds (not just Muslims). I just don’t know why people on the left, like yourself, refuse to call a spade a spade.

Paul

November 30th, 2010
9:52 am

Morning, Granny Godzilla!

“The guiding principle here: the government does not have the right to impose prior restraint on the media.”

And several media outlets refused to publish the raw Wikileaks data; however, many did. I’m sure what the Justice Dept is grappling with is, whom to prosecute? The media for passing on stolen, classified information that can do grave harm to the US?

Media are free to speak what they want…. but… speech has consequences, remember? :-)

Georgian

November 30th, 2010
9:52 am

REAL,

Tea Baggers are all Americans, Republican, Democrat, and Independent. It has a vast following, with various opinions. It has questioned certain policies and decisions. It is a movement, not a party.

The REAL GodHatesTrash, Superstar

November 30th, 2010
9:53 am

This young man was not planning a plane ride.

Only a tea-bagging “moran” would think that this is the only method of terrorism available to the tens of millions of wingnuts in the world.

Load up a couple of automatic pistoleros and head to your local post office, or grade school, or synagogue, or mosque. Start a fire in a church. Shoot an abortion doctor. Run a car into a crowd of people. Undermine a bridge. It’s that easy, and the list goes on an on.

willie lynch

November 30th, 2010
9:53 am

Georgian

So WikiLeaks is headquartered here in the U.S.?

granny godzilla

November 30th, 2010
10:01 am

Georgian

Yes.

But try and get beyond the gossipy snarky stuff.

You know…like employment? mortgage fraud? insider trading? afghanistan? climate change? START? Healthcare? Homelessness?
the 99er’s? the debt ceiling? corporate money in elections?
tax cuts? DADT? Sharia law in OK? Social Security? Medicare?
Medicaid? Deficit Commission? return to the gold standard?
McCain calling for regime change in North Korea? Clean energy?
Redistricting? ……

Glad the election makes you a happy camper, but perhaps a bit of focus
on more substantive issues would be to your benefit.

Have a great day and keep learning.

Billybob

November 30th, 2010
10:01 am

“But we cannot fight them effectively by turning the U.S. into a police state which unfairly rounds up patriotic citizens based on their religion.”
Liberalism 101 False Premise Alert……Nobody espouses this idea Tucker, but nice try to brand ’somebody’ out there as anti-muslim. Libs like you always need a victim, don’t you? Keep talking ma’am….

The REAL GodHatesTrash, Superstar

November 30th, 2010
10:01 am

Seriously, Mr. Grief. Virtually all tea-baggers and Beckistanis are incapable of rational thought, let alone discussion.

Their little atavistic minds are full of insane conspiracy theories and paranoia. I don’t expect people that us thus afflicted to take me seriously.

Just know I don’t most of you seriously, either, other than your level of bile and hatred, and your inability to discern the difference between information and propaganda, and the enormous holes in your logic leave me feeling queasy.

Good Grief

November 30th, 2010
10:01 am

Paul @ 9:52 – “Media are free to speak what they want…. but… speech has consequences, remember?”

So do you subscribe to the Howard Dean school of thought? Should we bring back the Fairness Doctrine?

granny godzilla

November 30th, 2010
10:02 am

Paul

Good Morning you handsome devil!

consequences…to be sure.

Georgian

November 30th, 2010
10:02 am

Lynch,

Doesn’t matter. Any person who is responsible for the leak of sensitive material may be prosecuted by the US. Furthermore, any person considered to be a national security risk on scale with Al Queda should have a couple missles staring them in the face.

If Obama had the “equipment” to make sure Wikileaks didnt publish that material, it would not have happened.

kayaker 71

November 30th, 2010
10:03 am

We’ve been very lucky so far. Over 10K people at the tree lighting ceremony in Portland. Many more than at the twin towers. And we still refuse to believe that we have a war on terror. That it is Muslim males who are responsible for most (excluding McVey) of the billions of dollars we spend per year protecting ourselves. We walk around in a sort of liberal fog, denying that we have a problem. Those F-16s are not flying up and down the East coast are not protecting us from Canadians. Bozo and Holder don’t even call it a terrorism problem, deny that the problem exists and refuse to call it what it is, PROTECTING OURSELVES FROM MUSLIM MALES. These same Muslim males are becoming more embolden the longer Bozo is in office. He has little to no respect with our friends and less with our enemies. These people are opportunists who will take a chance if they feel they can get away with it and they are becoming more bold by the day.