A prediction: Republicans won’t shrink the deficit

In this election cycle, Republicans have made curbing federal spending a big part of their campaign. They’ve also pledged to cut taxes. And the two promises certainly sound good to voters.
So, if the GOP wins the House, as expected, what will happen to the deficit? Here’s my prediction: Two years from now, the deficit will be no smaller. It may even be larger. Why? Because Republicans won’t do much to rein in spending. And if they cut taxes, there won’t be enough revenue to fund the budget.
It’s simple elementary school math.
It might help to take a look at how the federal budget got to be such a mess. Justin Fox of the Harvard Business Review Group says:

In other words, the giant deficit is mainly the result of the collapse in tax receipts brought on by the recession, not the increase in spending. Nice to know, huh?

You can read more about Fox’s model here.
Republicans, aided by the rightwing communications machine, have persuaded voters of a couple of things that happen to be wrong. One is that President Obama has substantially increased spending on wasteful government programs. In fact, one-third of the stimulus was in the form of tax cuts. And the bank bail-out, which started under George W. Bush, has mostly been paid back — earning taxpayers a profit. The health insurance law will reduce the deficit over ten years, not add to it, according to the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office.
But continuing to depress revenues with a huge tax cut for rich Americans will certainly make the deficit larger. That’s a fact.

409 comments Add your comment

ALibertarian

November 2nd, 2010
7:51 am

Ever heard of “growing the economy” as a way to get more federal revenues?

Peadawg

November 2nd, 2010
7:57 am

“Two years from now, the deficit will be no smaller. It may even be larger. Why? Because Republicans won’t do much to rein in spending.”

Kinda like the past 2 years, huh Cynthia? Has it hit $14 trillion yet?

stands for decibels

November 2nd, 2010
7:58 am

Republicans, aided by the rightwing communications machine, have persuaded voters of a couple of things that happen to be wrong

a couple?

Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 2nd, 2010
7:59 am

With all due respect, I do not care about the deficit. I care about the level of government non-military spending, as that is the destructive force in our economic nature. Nobody with a brain believes a democrat will ever reduce government non-mlitary spending. Hope and change resides only with republicans, even if the pulse there is weak.

stands for decibels

November 2nd, 2010
8:01 am

Peadawg, the debt is not the same as the deficit.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 2nd, 2010
8:03 am

Thank goodness the Supreme Court remembered that the first amendment forbids Congress from making any law abridging the freedom of speech. With the power of money, for the first time in my life, we actually have hundreds of competitive Congressional elections. The overlords efforts to constrain our efforts, to rein in their control over our lives, are now for naught.

stands for decibels

November 2nd, 2010
8:04 am

But since PD brought up the debt, yeah, it’s around 14 trillion, and no matter who is President perhaps a decade or so down the road, when we finally have something resembling a surplus and begin paying down teeny bits of debt? It’ll be 18, 19, probably 20 trillion.

And these silly arguments over whether it did or didn’t make sense for a President in 2009 to spend a few hundred billion trying to tide over bankrupt state budgets and get some people back to work will seem rather quaint.

stands for decibels

November 2nd, 2010
8:05 am

With the power of money, for the first time in my life, we actually have hundreds of competitive Congressional elections.

Ayn Rand’s biggest fan welcomes his insect overlords.

anyway, some of us gotta go produce. later…

Mystified

November 2nd, 2010
8:07 am

It took you a while to finally find someone who could divert the blame for the deficit from the Democrats. I could quote from my Aunt Charlotte but nobody has ever heard of her either. You are right though in your prediction. The deficit won’t be reduced because a republican house still has to deal with a democrat senate and a democrat white house. I’m ok with that as long as two years from now they can show conservative initiatives aimed at getting spending under control and generating revenues. Let Obama and the Senate vote down or veto every conservative initiative.

The next phase in “restoring sanity” to DC comes in 2012.

Keep up the good fight!

November 2nd, 2010
8:08 am

In 2 years they will again blame the Democrats for anything that ails the country. They will waste 2 years playing politics while the real needs of this country fail to get met. And their base will continue to play their “we are victims” card to everything their stormtroopers do, their Nazi reenactors, their racists and their perverts. They will continue to move to the right if they have significant wins tonight but they will only control, at best, the House. If they don’t get the House, the best chance for the country is that rational minds begin to prevail, they reject the tea baggers, and that people with real brains will begin to reject the “smaller government/lower taxes” chant to discuss smarter government, where to cut spending and how to pay down the debt.

JKL2

November 2nd, 2010
8:08 am

Since the Democrats aren’t even proposing a budget I’m guessing they have no plan to reduce the deficit. So even if the Republicans fail to live up to their expectations, they will at least be equal to the Democrats. Let’s give the new kid a chance before you beat him down…

Mystified

November 2nd, 2010
8:10 am

By the way…. I didn’t get to comment on the restoring sanity rally or whatever it was called. I was very impressed with what I saw and I do believe democrats are making progress. They held a rally and no store fronts were smashed, no flags were burned, no fake racism claims were made, and no cops were spit at. Maybe civility is making gains among liberals.

granny godzilla

November 2nd, 2010
8:11 am

Hey Rags!

Hey Rags!

Yep, the cash drained human overlords will be replaced with the money bags corporate overlords.

Won’t that be special!

SmittyATL

November 2nd, 2010
8:11 am

Cynthia, you may be right. It will probably take multiple election cycles before our so-called leaders get the message and have the backbone to truly reign in spending. The public has become conditioned to expect government programs to fix everything, so cutting the deficit will be painful. We don’t want to give up Social Security and Medicare, but we can’t afford it, so we eventually will have not choice but to cut benefits; we might as well come up with a plan now to phase these programs out in the least disruptive way possible. I hope the public’s attention span is long enough that we can see this through for as long as it takes to achieve the goal of fiscal responsibility. If not, the next generation of Americans will pay absurd taxes just to cover the interest on our out-of-control spending. It is a huge problem, and we have to stop hiding our heads in the sand.

I don’t think the next Congress has much of a chance to substantially shrink the deficit, especially with Obama in the WH. But at least the public is waking up to the impending crisis, so it is a start…

Rick

November 2nd, 2010
8:12 am

Cynthia, you made a prediction.

The flip side of that is the certainty that Democrats will never shrink the deficit as they allow illegal aliens to take jobs that US citizens need to support their families.

Democrats who do not reduce legal immigration as US citizens need jobs and the current economy doesn’t even create enough jobs to keep up with the population increase.

Democrats who keep on building a welfare state and where 47% of US citizens do not pay federal taxes.

Democrats who call anyone who opposes them “enemies” and “Nazis” while the call illegal aliens “patriots”!

Democrats who put the interests of foreign nationals before those of US citizens.

oedipus

November 2nd, 2010
8:12 am

fear will expand, reasoning will contract

Mystified

November 2nd, 2010
8:14 am

Let’s see…..Call anyone who disagrees with you Nazi..claim only that people who agree with you are reasonable….Anyone else is small minded. Act completely oblivious to the impact of your failed policies… Yep. KEEP… You’re a democrat.

Jethro

November 2nd, 2010
8:14 am

If the “leftwing communications machine” was worth a hoot, the tea partiers would be a blip on the radar. Bad politics on the Democrats’ part, Ms. Tucker.

Simply put, the Democrats didn’t learn from the mistakes the Republicans made in 2006 to end their tenure. The simplest of these mistakes was that they should have been listening instead of shouting at us, telling us what we need. They should have been reaching out to the other side instead of saying “it’s my way or the highway.” Didn’t work for Republicans then; didn’t work for Democrats now.

There must be something in the air that makes all inhabitants of Washington D.C. deaf.

Bob

November 2nd, 2010
8:15 am

They will try to reduce and dems will claim that babies and their mothers are being starved to death.

granny godzilla

November 2nd, 2010
8:15 am

JKL2

ACtually the budget was released as is traditional in early February.

Try a little accuracy, it’s terribly sexy!

granny godzilla

November 2nd, 2010
8:17 am

Rick

Actually the democrats reduced the deficit 120 billion in their first fiscal year.

Again, accuracy is terribly sexy.

Keep up the good fight!

November 2nd, 2010
8:19 am

Msytified…I did not call anyone who disagrees with me a Nazi…but nice play of the victim card. Typical. Hard to deny that a Republican is a Nazi reenactor. Do you want me to go through the entire list from Carl the perv emailer, to the tea party white supremecists members, to the Rand Stomper. Each one clearly identifies a current Republican candidate. And if pointing out the failure of the Republicans to weed out the crazies and the extremists is “small minded” and makes you a victim, well then so be it. I suspect your going to continue the victim card play no matter what.

jt

November 2nd, 2010
8:21 am

“And the bank bail-out, which started under George W. Bush, has mostly been paid back — earning taxpayers a profit.”

A profit????????????????……Did Paul Krugman come up with that figure?…The propaganda from the Feds is starting to lose its effectiveness. It is still amusing to listen to though. How can a reporter actually write this stuff and still sleep at night?

Only the Gov’t can claim a profit while losing billions. Of course when it is not your money to start out with it is all profit.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 2nd, 2010
8:21 am

Dear Granny @ 8:11, good morning, yes, it will be refreshing to have governance by people who have half a grain of economic sense, instead of the geniuses who destroyed our economy since Nov 2006.

I Report :-) You Whine :-( mmm, mmmm, mmmmm! Just sayin...

November 2nd, 2010
8:24 am

We’re going to shrink the dummycrat party and that’s all that matters, just sayin…

Bubba Bob

November 2nd, 2010
8:24 am

Let’s see, the Dems have had the Senate, House, and Presidency for two years and they haven’t shrunk the deficit.

The Reps. might have the House and that’s all. Somehow you’ll be blaming them if the deficit doesn’t shrink. That makes a lot of sense.

You do realize they’ll need the Senate to pass the same bill and the President to sign it, right?

Mystified

November 2nd, 2010
8:25 am

So the democrats have weeded out all of their crazies. You’re wrong about that… we ignore ours and hope they go away… You give yours nobel peace prizes.

AmVet

November 2nd, 2010
8:25 am

“The flip side of that is the certainty that Democrats thousands of law breaking business owners will never shrink the deficit as they profit illegally by allowing illegal aliens to take jobs that US citizens need to support their families.

When did the GOP become the Party of No Personalty Responsibility?

Mystified

November 2nd, 2010
8:26 am

Bubba Bob,

They do realize that… They are just practicing for 2012.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 2nd, 2010
8:26 am

Dear Granny @ 8:17, 2007? You deceptively conceal that the dems ran up the deficit by $1 trillion in the first month of Obama-dominance.

granny godzilla

November 2nd, 2010
8:29 am

Rags

1/2 grain of economic sense?

I suggest it’s a trailer load of economic greed with a side of usury.

But it’s all a matter of prospective.

I mean Enron and AIG and Haliburton and BP and Massey and Lehman Bros and WOrld Com and Washington Mutual and Pan Am and Indy Mac and Arbusto
were shining examples of economic sense!

granny godzilla

November 2nd, 2010
8:31 am

Rags

You mean while working under the Bush budget?

Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 2nd, 2010
8:32 am

Dear Granny @ 8:29, I never realized you were so affectionate for the massive buggy-whip industry. I know you are unfamiliar with Schumpeter’s “creative destruction” theories, but that is the dynamic that gives us computers and microwaves. By the way, most of your companies were run by corporatist democrats – people who seek to use government coercion to compel people to buy their products, a la Obamacare – rather than free-market republicans.

Bubba Bob

November 2nd, 2010
8:33 am

Granny,

All those big banks you listed. Which party do you think they gave more money to? Democrats….

Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 2nd, 2010
8:34 am

Dear Granny @ 8:31, newsflash, the spending authority resides with the House.

James

November 2nd, 2010
8:34 am

KUTGF- The nazi thing is a little drama queenish as it requires ethnic cleansing, extreme hatred, and the like- Obama is the best fascist I have seen since…… W.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 2nd, 2010
8:34 am

But, dear Granny @ 8:31, we would agree that Bush spent like a democrat.

Keep up the good fight!

November 2nd, 2010
8:36 am

Mysty…you “ignore yours” by running them as candidates and repackaging them hoping that everyone forgets what is under the surface. Give them a nice website, take out the crazy comments, have them hide from the media (and only give interviews to their “friends”) and tell us they will answer questions after they are elected. Whisper birther claims. And then call your opposition crazy when all else fails. Play the victim card over and over. Nice try. I’d be ashamed to call myself a Republican given the collective candidates who represent the party across the country

AmVet

November 2nd, 2010
8:37 am

You The Norwegian Nobel Committee, which selects the laureate for the Peace Prize, gives yours nobel peace prizes.

That’s twice this morning already.

Does anybody care a whit about intellectual honesty any more?

Bubba Bob

November 2nd, 2010
8:39 am

Keep,

With all due respect, do you really think the Dems don’t do sneaky, crazy things to get elected? Is it really just the Republicans?

LeeH1

November 2nd, 2010
8:39 am

The only way to shrink the budget is to target the big ones: medicare, the military, social security. All this crap about cutting the budget except these are meaningless.

The Republicans don’t have the nerve to cut these big ones, no matter who elected them, so the deficeit will continue.

The Tea Baggers will get into office, and find very quickly that simple solutions to complex problems sound good during campaigns, but don’t work in the real world.

I’ll be amused over the next two years watching the Republican tide go down the drain.

Bubba Bob

November 2nd, 2010
8:39 am

AmVet,

I was hoping to win me one of the peace prizes. I’ve done just as much as the past few winners. Now I know who to call. Thanks!

lovelyliz

November 2nd, 2010
8:41 am

“A prediction: Republicans won’t shrink the deficit”

That’s not a prediction. It’s a forgone conclusion, a fact

Kamchak's gerbil

November 2nd, 2010
8:42 am

Keep – do you EVER work?

Paul

November 2nd, 2010
8:45 am

“In other words, the giant deficit is mainly the result of the collapse in tax receipts brought on by the recession, not the increase in spending”

There’s another consideration: spending increasing at over 6 percent (the link) while at the same time keeping all the programs with no reductions. That’s the element many choose to skip: maintaining all the programs, not cutting any of them. It’s anathema to Democrats. And, come January, to more than a couple of Republicans, I’ll wager.

“In fact, one-third of the stimulus was in the form of tax cuts.”

True, too. But it’s the rest of the spending…. Americans do not think they got good value for the vast debt incurred. It was a gamble, and the gambler lost.

“The health insurance law will reduce the deficit over ten years, not add to it, according to the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office.”

One more time…. sigh…. the CBO does not conduct independent cost analyses. They perform analyses //given the assumptions set by the requestor//. “Score the bill? With which assumptions? That there will be no growth in payments to health care providers for a decade? Got it. That the rate of supplies costs will be half the historical average? Got it. That revenues for three years will be counted and no outlays will be counted? Got it. Now lessee…. yes, I have the answer…. you bill saves money!!!!”

Always question the assumptions, not just the final answer.

“But continuing to depress revenues with a huge tax cut for rich Americans will certainly make the deficit larger. That’s a fact.”

And relying on the ‘rich’ – the top one or two percent – to fund our way out of this mess is also a factual fantasy. They don’t have enough. Spending must also be cut.

And that’s elementary school math, too.

Lady GayGay

November 2nd, 2010
8:46 am

That’s a fact, Jack. (editor’s correction of Cynthia’s hacking of my material)

Cynthia, you could also have written, “That’s for sure; that’s 4dang sure.” (but only if’n you be wantin’ to wins another Putzlisper Prize.

bwa

Bubba Bob

November 2nd, 2010
8:47 am

Paul,

Don’t use all those facts. You’ll confuse everyone on here!

Lady GayGay

November 2nd, 2010
8:47 am

All AMerica’s problems are the direct result of Cheney’s Iraq Invasion in which thousands if not millions of Iraqis were slaughtered to death and then blown to smitheens.

Keep up the good fight!

November 2nd, 2010
8:49 am

Bubba…. I dont think anything that the Reps/Dems have done in the past few years can match the repackaging of crazy that has taken place across the country and with so many candidates in so short of time. And if you were being honest, you would admit that from the witch, to the Nazi reenactor, to the fluroide conspiracist, and the others that the extreme is more the normal for the Republicans right now.

Paul

November 2nd, 2010
8:53 am

Follow-on question to Ms Tucker’s column: as I understand it, this surge of sentiment – represented by the TPers, is over fiscal irresponsibility, excess spending and the size of gov’t.

So the Dems get tossed, moderate Reps get tossed, and in comes the group who are either true believers or who play to the crowd.

Candidate Obama set high expectations and people felt he didn’t deliver. The voters appear to be taking it out on Dems as a whole – not just the ultralib wing. So in come some ultracons, who have also set some pretty high expectations.

They have their two years to show results. If they don’t deliver, who’re the voters gonna replace them with? Dems? Moderate Reps? Who?

granny godzilla

November 2nd, 2010
8:54 am

RAGS

While you might like to say Bush spent like a democrat he really did spend like a Republican….

Oh and Rags, I don’t believe your comment about those companies being run by corporate democrats. I think you pulled that out of your old bag of tricks…..you know the one – when you don’t have an accurate
response you make up one and toss out some uncommon terminologys to impress us, you know like, like creative destruction. You could just as easily mentioned Endogenous growth or Stiglitz’ development economics or the Ramsey growth model and the Exogenous growth model…..

If you don’t get that Bush spent like a real republican you can toss around all the buzz words you want, but you remain wrong.

And in typical fashion you cannot even acknowledge that Obama has already reduced the deficit.

Bubba

Did you think they were all banks? Really?

gator24

November 2nd, 2010
8:58 am

The spin is as always,let the free market operate without any regulations and we will all be fine. This will cure the foreclosure problems and create jobs. The Bush tax cuts will create jobs if they are extended and all the new regulations are repealed. I don’t understand, the tax cuts have been in a effect for the past ten years,so where are the jobs. Their should have been millions of new jobs created and a lot of wealth for everybody. No one has explained why it hasn’t happen. However, it will happen after this election according to the so called experts. I guess its better to wait and see or maybe will should all join a ponzi scheme to increase our chance of making lots of money. Oh yea,the tax cuts will reduce the Federal deficit by one trillion dollars over the next two years if nothing else is done, except repealing the new Health care law. Fear is alive and well these days just as Gay marriage was in 2004.

quod erat demonstrandum

November 2nd, 2010
9:00 am

While it is doubtful that the deficit will shrink by any large amount, if we hold our Representatives in Congress accountable, we might stop the bleeding in the budget.

If this new batch does not help stop the massive spending, they will also be one term elected officials.

quod erat demonstrandum

November 2nd, 2010
9:01 am

gator24,

Why are you against the current tax rates? Unless you are unemployed, your tax rates will rise next year.

kayaker 71

November 2nd, 2010
9:02 am

I seem to remember a few select comments by people on this blog about the shrinking numbers of the GOP and how they were were going to have to have their next RNC in some phone booth. Comments abounded about the shrinking size of the Republican base and how, as a party, they were toast. Well, stories do have good endings sometimes and, no, we are not in the bucket by a long shot, despite liberal rantings and ravings. Would you like your crow sauteed or fried?

Paul

November 2nd, 2010
9:02 am

quod erat

And who will replace them?

This time around, it’s the party in power and the moderates from the minority party. Are you saying the voters will grant more time to the incoming group than they granted to the current members? If they do that, isn’t that a contradiction?

Shawny

November 2nd, 2010
9:05 am

“A prediction: Republicans won’t shrink the deficit”

Correct, until we get the Spender in Chief out of office.

Rick

November 2nd, 2010
9:07 am

LeeH1 November 2nd, 2010 8:39 am

The only way to shrink the budget is to target the big ones: medicare, the military, social security. All this crap about cutting the budget except these are meaningless.
===========================
Agreed these are big targets.

The military is also a source of JOBS for US citizens and H1-B visa contractors. We shouldn’t be protecting the world at our expense when we can take care of our own here. Bring back all troops overseas and close down all US military bases overseas.

The US government should get a cut of all US weapons sales containing weapons built or designed at government expense. Otherwise, military spending should only be for defense of our nation.

Stop trying to buy the “loyalty” of other nations. Doesn’t work, they just ally themselves with those who contribute the most to their bottom line and “loyalty” is circumspect is most cases.

As far as Medicare and Social Security…aren’t these programs to benefit our own citizens? Even Republicans want to help those who need help, as long as those needing help have been responsible.

How can we cut SS benefits when US citizens have actually “paid” for them? Why wasn’t the trust fund allowed to “grow” instead of being spent on other programs? This has been bipartisan irresponsibility!

Eliminate all earmarks/pork projects and make bills that target one problem. Stop with all the miscellaneous amendments. Force separate items onto separate bills and hold our elected officials accountable by documenting their votes in local newspapers.
Cut foreign aid!

Punish business owners that hire illegal workers!

Create programs for able-bodied workers on unemployment to spent at least 20 hours a week performing some civil tasks ([highway, parks, and urban cleanup for low skilled citizens], [chasing down government/medicare corruption for higher skilled citizens]) where their skills can be used to offset the government monies being provided to them.

Stop subsidies to farmers. If farmers can not produce and deliver their product without government subsidies then we need to buy our food from the lowest cost provider until the agricultural community modernizes.

quod erat demonstrandum

November 2nd, 2010
9:09 am

Paul,

If the people, we elect do not do the job we elected them for, we can replace the House members in 2 years. The folks elected to the Senate will take longer to replace.

In 2012, we will elect a whole new house of representatives.

ctucker

November 2nd, 2010
9:10 am

ALibertarian@7:51, Of course. And how does one do that? Tax cuts? The Bush tax cuts DID NOT grow the economy. There was zero net jobs growth between 2000 and 2008.

ctucker

November 2nd, 2010
9:11 am

Peadawg@7:58, I don’t recall that in 2008 Obama campaigned on reducing the deficit.

Bubba Bob

November 2nd, 2010
9:12 am

Granny,

I didn’t say they were all banks. I said “All the big banks you listed”. I just think it’s funny that you try to associate the rich banks with Republicans all the while the same big banks are hand in hand with the Democrats. The irony is rich.

Eye am right and ewe are wrong

November 2nd, 2010
9:12 am

CT

You base your statements on what? Your hatred of the GOP? You can’t even write a column without cutting and pasting other peoples work. It’s time to admit the left has failed along with your boy BO. There are now three parties in the US,GOP, dems and the president.

Scout

November 2nd, 2010
9:12 am

Prediction – Democrats would make it larger.

James

November 2nd, 2010
9:13 am

Obama set high expectations (Obama was a snake oil salesman) and people felt (felt is an emotion- Obama gets an F- there is a score card). The ultra left and right need to assimilate and step aside. First we will have unproductive grid lock and fade DC. We will then see more moderate gov’t versus this made for tv garbage.

AmVet

November 2nd, 2010
9:13 am

“A prediction: Republicans won’t shrink the deficit”

Correct, until we get the Spender in Chief out of office.

A neo-con epiphany? At long last? Woo Hoo!

Never mind that over the past 30 years the GOP has irrefutably done the exact opposite.

They have chosen to explode the cost, size, scope, waste and inefficiencies of government.

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain…

CYNT U MUST KEEP UR JOB

November 2nd, 2010
9:16 am

TODAY YOU RACISTS CRACKERS WILL GET YOUR WISH TO VOTE FOR YOUR EVIL REPUBLICANS!

PLEASE NATHAN DEAL AND OTHER REPUBLICANS,FINISH THE JOB OF BREAKING THESE REDNECKS IN RURAL GEORGIA!

GLAD THAT THESE HICKS BANKS ARE CLOSING,HOW DID THOSE 8 YEARS OF BUSH TAXCUTS WORKOUT?

WHERE DID THOSE JOBS GO?

BUSH SAID 8 YEARS OF TAXCUTS WILL PRODUCE JOBS? WHERE ARE THEY? YOU CRACKERS WILL CONTINUE TO GET WHAT IS COMING TO YOU? HELL AND BRIMSTONE!

Billybob

November 2nd, 2010
9:17 am

Tucker,
Are you saying that the democrats since Jan 07′/Obama’s record spending have put the country in the position where the only way to rein in the deficit is by instituting huge tax increases? Thanks for enlightening everyone to the utter disgrace that has been the Obama/Pelosi/Reid Savings & Loan….keep talking Tucker, you are doing great!!!!!

USMC DAWG

November 2nd, 2010
9:18 am

Cynthia Tucker’s prediction is worth garbage

CYNT U MUST KEEP UR JOB

November 2nd, 2010
9:18 am

BEING FROM THE SOUTH,THE EVIL DIXIECRATS ARE NOW THE EVIL REPUBLICANS!

paleo-neo-Carlinist

November 2nd, 2010
9:18 am

ALiberatrian, every heard the word “counterproductive”? If we “grow the economy” via debt-financed spending (the Fed pumping more cash into the system), we lose because we have demonstrated that any increase in revenue is wiped out by debt-service; AND inflation, which reduces the actual buying power of the dollar. the ONLY solution is to reduce spending AND increase revenues.

quod erat demonstrandum

November 2nd, 2010
9:19 am

AmVet,

The Congress controls the purse strings of the Government. No money is spent unless Congress votes on it.

I do not hold Obama responsible for the deficit, I hold Congress responsible.

All Obama did was tell Congress what he wanted and the wimps rolled all over themselves to comply.

If we had a congress with any type of backbone we would not be in this mess.

Aquagirl

November 2nd, 2010
9:20 am

Rick, that’s a great list. Suggest it to the Republicans. You’ll get as far as CT at a Tea Party rally.

Paul

November 2nd, 2010
9:20 am

quod erat 9:09

But who will we replace them with?

The current crop’s displacing moderates and liberals. If the incoming group of fiscal conservatives don’t meet expectations, who gets the job? Another group of fiscal conservatives? Why trust the same group if they didn’t get the job done?

Serious question. Seems to me if they don’t get the job done, it’s the premise of what they can do that’s faulty.

Eye am right and ewe are wrong

November 2nd, 2010
9:22 am

Keep up the good fight!
November 2nd, 2010
8:08 am

And where are these “real brains” and “rational minds” coming from? Are they the same clowns who had control of congress and the White House the past two tears? Strom troopers, perverts the name calling begins. It’s going to be along two years for loser. The whole left wing falls under one moniker LIER!!!!!!

ctucker

November 2nd, 2010
9:23 am

Bubba Bob@8:24, It’s the Republicans who have been campaigning that they will rein in spending. They should be judged on their rhetoric, right?

Jack

November 2nd, 2010
9:23 am

I have a corporation, but didn’t know I was an overlord and I don’t know where the money bags are.

paleo-neo-Carlinist

November 2nd, 2010
9:26 am

the true brillance of the “let the market sort things out” crowd is the fact that a true free market is about as ruthless and bloody as it gets, and yet “the suits” hold power via their de facto ownership of government (law and law enforcement). it is very much like war itself; poor people fighting to protect the assets (wealth) of the rich. all the flag waving and ideology is just the pitch.

Bubba Bob

November 2nd, 2010
9:27 am

Ctucker,

They should be judged by what they claim. However, if the President won’t play along with their cuts then who’s fault will it be?

I’m not even saying they will cut. Heck, I’m voting third party on some things because I’m tired of all of them. However, I think it’s dishonest of you to say it will be all the Republican’s fault when Obama has to play along as well.

Granny Godblessamerica

November 2nd, 2010
9:30 am

granny godzilla
November 2nd, 2010
8:15 am

JKL2

ACtually the budget was released as is traditional in early February.

Try a little accuracy, it’s terribly sexy!

Wrong old lady

It was presented to congress but never ratified.
You silly left wing lemmings just never get it right.
Accuracy will make you….never mind!

Keep up the good fight!

November 2nd, 2010
9:31 am

Bubba…now tell me exactly…from 2006 until 2008, the Dems are to blame because they controlled the house and senate but there was a Republican president. If the Reps have the House and the Senate in 2010 until 2012, the Dems are to blame because there is a Dem president….

Are Republicans ever to responsible?

quod erat demonstrandum

November 2nd, 2010
9:32 am

Paul,

If you keep knocking down a spider web, the spider will get the message and move on.

Even a Congressman can be taught.

Keep up the good fight!

November 2nd, 2010
9:33 am

Carlin….well let’s be honest…you’re right about the brutality of the “free market”. However a truly free market presumes a great deal including complete information held by all market actors, level playing fields… simply put, there is no such thing as a free market.

paleo-neo-Carlinist

November 2nd, 2010
9:34 am

QED @ 9:19. excellent point, just as Obama’s predecessor told the Congress to “roll over” in 2002/03 (Iraq). I noted this last week – when sombody opined about the percentage of Dems vs. Reps after today’s elections. who cares? Americans need to focus on “who?” owns the Congress. the President has a bully pulpit for whatever pork (presented as agenda) he wants to dole out, so when there is a tax and spend Dem in the White House, the bulk of the pork goes left, and when there is a borrow and spend GOPer at 1600 PA Ave., most of the pork goes right. and guess feeds the pig, but doesn’t get any bacon? John and Joan Q. Public. happy election day!

Bubba Bob

November 2nd, 2010
9:37 am

Keep,

As far as anything being Republican’s fault you must not be familiar with me. I complained for 8 years that Bush was spending too much. I do hold the Rep. responsible for that.

I didn’t say it would be Obama’s fault. I’m saying that it’s dishonest to hold the Republicans totally responsible for not reducing the debt/deficit if Obama doesn’t play along. What do you say?

paleo-neo-Carlinist

November 2nd, 2010
9:40 am

Keep up, exactly, and were I to be a truly cynical, subversive, anarchist; I would contemplate the sobering reality that the concept of “freedom” itself (civil liberties/Constitution) falls into the category of political mythology. that is to say, proferring the narrative that thr USA is ‘the land of the free and the home of the brave” is form than substance. I think Thomas Paine pondered this question as the Republic was taking shape. I “freely” admit I don’t have a solution, and maybe Jefferson (or was it Madison) didn’t either, which led to the admition that (paraphrase) “a revolution every now and then is a good thing.”

resno2

November 2nd, 2010
9:46 am

“promises certainly sound good to voters.”

They certainly did when promised by obama… ‘not one thin dime in new taxes’…

Keep up the good fight!

November 2nd, 2010
9:46 am

Bubba…I think it is dishonest to blame Obama for the current deficits and for the fiscal mess he inherited. It is dishonest to blame all Republicans and/or all Democrats.

It will be dishonest to blame Obama and the Dems as it has been for the past 2 years for the failures of the Republicans to try to compromise and achieve real action. If the Republicans start off with a repeal of insurance reform, they have shown their feathers just as they are the party of no now, and fail to acknowledge the numerous Republicans suggestions that were included in many Obama bills. If the Republicans roll back financial reform, they are to blame.

If they propose reasonable bills to cut costs and compromise with the Dems and Obama, not granting tax cuts for income above $250k, then I am all for them.

JohnnyReb

November 2nd, 2010
9:46 am

Ms Tucker, please ditch the White House talking points spin on the wealthy tax cut.

There is no tax cut for wealthy Americans under consideration, period.

If the Bush tax cuts are extended, things will remain status quo. If the Bush tax cuts are not extended, or extended for a select few, there will be a tax increase. It is true if the tax cuts expire there would be more tax revenue. Most everyone but the die-hard Barry supporters agree the economy can’t handle a tax increase at this time.

Lastly, the Democrats did not have the fortitude to pass a budget before the elections because they did not want Americans to see just how bad things are under their control. So, knock off the Republicans will produce higher deficits as even with Dems in control that would likely be the case.

Liberal Chicks are UGLY

November 2nd, 2010
9:47 am

Unless you’re a pud whacking liberal, go vote. If you are pud whacking liberal or a liberal of anykind really, stay home and collect your welfare check.

Nothing Is Free

November 2nd, 2010
9:47 am

Granny’s got the make believe deficit numbers from make believe liberal world:

2006 8.451.4 Trillion
2007 8.950.7 Trillion
2008 9.985.8 Trillion
2009 12.311.4 Trillion
2010 (2 Sept) 13.442.1 Trillion

Now what year did the democrats cut the deficit?

TINSTAAFL

November 2nd, 2010
9:50 am

I’m not going to take the time to argue with some of the neanderthals in this forum, because, frankly, I have better things to do. I just wanted to stop by and reminisce. I remember arguing with some of the handels on this same blog two years ago in November about whether the Republican party was done for. It was the opinion of many of the liberal regulars that the party was done, kaputz, finito. It would be confined as a southern, regional party. Democrats were finally going to transform America in the utopia they’ve wanted for so long. I remember arguing for a while with Granny Godzilla, although I’m not sure she was granny at the time. I don’t think that Keep up the good fight! had reared his head from the primordial soup from whence he/she came. Regardless, there are plenty of fonts on here that would look quite stupid if one took the time to go back two years ago and read the comments.

Like I said. Just wanted to take the time to reminisce. I’m certainly having fun doing it, and laughing the entire time.

George P. Burdell

November 2nd, 2010
9:51 am

The main thing about this guys report is that his expenditures appear to be wrong in 2010 unless something changed “recently” and multiple data sources are incorrect. His numbers for every other year match exactly, but he lists ependitures at 3.46 trillion while the sources list it at 3.72 trillion. If the $3.72 trillion is correct, that significantly changes how much more we have overspent and takes a lot of the bite out of his argument.

Nothing Is Free

November 2nd, 2010
9:52 am

Nothing could be clearer:

Want to see what happened when the democrats took over in 2006?

Take out the spaces and look at this chart: http:// en.wikipedia. org/wiki/File: US_Federal_Debt_as_Percent_of_GDP_by_President.jpg

Bubba Bob

November 2nd, 2010
9:54 am

Keep,

So if they run on cutting the deficit but don’t then don’t try to they are hypocrites? I agree.

If they run on getting rid of the healthcare bill but don’t try to are they hypocrites? They are.

What you are really saying is that they should do what you want or they are hypocrites.

I’m voting for people who I hope will cut back/get rid of the healthcare bill. I hope they do what they say they will do or at least try.

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
9:55 am

If Cynthia is correct, then the Repubs will be voted out & you will have a viable TEA party – who with another 2 years will actually start electing representatives. The Repubs have an opportunity to live up to their rhetoric. If they fail & go back to the Hot Tub Delay days, they will be gone. BUT, Democrats will not replace them – a genuine slash spending party will.

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
9:58 am

How to reduce deficit: Terminate 100% of foreign aid/assistance (Aids for Africa, Haiti, etc, etc about 1000 times); Terminate 100% of federal grants without dedicated funding / Shrink the military – remove troops from Korea, Japan & Germany (place some on Mexican border) – but primarily shrink the Navy by 25%; Terminate the EIC; Terminate all corporate welfare, including substantial shrinkage of the farm bill / Trade food donations throughout the world for our dues paid to the UN / Wage freeze for 5 years on all federal employees making over $75,000 – terminate 100% of bonus pay (yeah, I am talking about you schmucks at the CDC – F Julie Gerberding) – this would be a start.

Billybob

November 2nd, 2010
10:01 am

Tucker,
After reading your column I should ask…….Did you get the jump on the California weed vote this morning? Trust me Tucker, by the end of the day you will need it! DC has many ‘medical cheebah’ shops at your disposal. Happy toking…..

John

November 2nd, 2010
10:02 am

Republicans won’t shrink the deficit. They keep talking about less spending; however, will not give any specifics of what they would cut. The only think they have said is we need to roll spending back to 2008 levels. If they forgotten, in 2008 we were in a deficit. If they’re really concerned about the deficit, why not cut spending as well as go back to the tax rates we had in place during the last time we had a surplus…during the Clinton administration.

Nothing Is Free

November 2nd, 2010
10:03 am

Paddy O

Do you have any idea what trimming the Navy by 25% would do to the unemployment numbers?

Bubba Bob

November 2nd, 2010
10:11 am

Nothing,

Agreed that 25% cut would affect unemployment. However, how do you keep doing things you can’t afford?

AmVet

November 2nd, 2010
10:11 am

Liberal Chicks are UGLY @9:47, why do you hate America and our free elections so much?

AFret

November 2nd, 2010
10:14 am

The people voted brown and sent an inexperienced community organizer to Washington. Now CT believes the repubs will screw up the budget by not reducing the deficit Obama doubled in one day. It’s Bush’s fault. Hope, Change, Blame Bush!!

The time is right

November 2nd, 2010
10:14 am

I agree, cut all foreign aid. As they already hate us.

Keep up the good fight!

November 2nd, 2010
10:15 am

Bubba….getting rid of “healthcare” and returning to the “prior system” without addressing the costs and the problems is not solving the problems of this country. But you can pick and chose your mandate. People elected Obama in 2008, in part, to reform heath care.

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
10:15 am

keep – you are shooting yourself in your debate foot – no one is to blame in your pollyanna universe. The Hot Tub Delay repubs promised fiscal responsiblity & failed; Bush spent like a Democrat; Clinton passed Republican legislation (NAFTA, Chinese PMFN status). Bush should have never supported TARP, but his ex-Goldman Sachs CEO buddy pushed it to save his old firm(and most likely a whole lot of his equity), the Dem congress going along was not surprising , it was a tax & spend bill. The whole stimulus notion, of “shovel ready” projects was pathetic, and the Dope in Chief now admits that – he had one bite at the apple & choked on it like the debutante he was. I wrote him a letter stating that if he gave every city & every county in the country $5 million no strings attached capital improvement $$$, he would profoundly stimulate the construction industry (the entire industry has been castrated the last 4 years). If the repubs really start slashing (reduced entire budget by 5% this year via the cuts outlined above), they will get this country back on track. Otherwise, you are making being a jobless lazy POS a viable lifestyle choice – is that good?

AmVet

November 2nd, 2010
10:16 am

It’s Bush’s fault. Hope, Change, Blame Bush!!

AFret, like so many of the other apologists, you have it backwards.

NOTHING is Bush’s fault…

Liberal Chicks are UGLY

November 2nd, 2010
10:16 am

between 2002 and 2006 there was plenty of job growth. It shrank when the democraps took back congress.

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
10:20 am

The navy has 11 aircraft carriers, with another on the way. How many does any other country have? We could slash this to 8 carriers, and still not worry about anybody attacking us (I would say we could slash to 6 active with 4 being in dry dock). The unemployment is not my problem – they could enlist in the army or marines & actually do some fighting.

Avenger

November 2nd, 2010
10:21 am

Nothing. ” Do you have any idea what trimming the Navy by 25% would do to the unemployment numbers?” Ain’t nothing free – you are for getting the deficit down – aren’t you?

The time is right

November 2nd, 2010
10:22 am

Fight

I think where the dems went wrong with healthcare is that they just wanted to pass it to make their mark in history. Both parties should join together in editing the 2000 pages of the bill and develop a realistic program.

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
10:22 am

also, I would adopt a “wage equalization tariff”, to eliminate the unfair labor advantages that communist country’s have – this should stimulate smart companies to bring back their manufacturing jobs to the US. I would also repeal NAFTA, or at least amend to only apply to countries with reciprocal regulations – enviro, labor, civil rights.

elgrunir

November 2nd, 2010
10:23 am

Liberal Chicks are UGLY

November 2nd, 2010
10:16 am
between 2002 and 2006 there was plenty of job growth. It shrank when the democraps took back congress.

Prove it.

Oh, that’s right, you can’t.

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
10:23 am

Heck, Cynthia Tucker proves that liberal chicks are NOT ugly – Ms. Tucker is into her 50’s and still looks exceptionally attractive – I am still trying to find out how to obtain an autographed photo of Ms. Tucker – I wish she would tell me!

AFret

November 2nd, 2010
10:24 am

AmVet, I did not say NOTHING is Bush’s fault. He just did not blame everything on Clinton.

AmVet

November 2nd, 2010
10:24 am

Avenger brings up a good point.

Even if it is an ugly little secret.

The Department of Defense is the largest jobs program in the history of the nation.

Nothing else is even remotely close.

Keep up the good fight!

November 2nd, 2010
10:26 am

Paddy…the construction industry boomed in a false bubble in part of their own creation. They have rallied their forces time and time again for wasted stimulus while ignoring the real solutions that can be their saviors but that is because the industry is skewed to new homes rather than fixing the current inventory.

There is no one group to blame for it all. A program gets passed, and several years later its mission is compromised by another set of politicians who add to it or who want to change it. Ultimately many fail because of the tampering. Some of it is fixing, some is a problem with original design, some is just screwing it up.

There is no easy answer, no easy one to blame, no easy fix. Its going to take time. Its going to take smart cutting and realizing that dollars do need to move from some areas to others. But it also going to take a stop to the stupidity of blaming anyone who arrives at the safety net as being lazy. Can there be abuses, yes. But dollar for dollar the real “abuses” are by those who take farm credits that should not get them, those corporations who pay no taxes because of credits and other accounting games, CEO who rip off their shareholders and a failure to give shareholders a real say in corporate governance. Its time to stop blaming “illegals” for all the woes in the world. It time to put on your man pants (to use a stupid phrase for the season) and realize simple answers are not there. Let’s get to the real business of working to fix the problems and stop the stupidity.

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
10:26 am

Bush invaded Iraq for nothing, that was a whopper of an error. BUT, if 20 years from now Iraq is still democratic like Israel (as opposed to Egypt), then he will be a hero just like Reagan. But, nation building is NOT a republican policy.

Avenger

November 2nd, 2010
10:27 am

Paddy. We sailors are the ones the US call when it wants to win and stop the wars.

Call me Paco

November 2nd, 2010
10:28 am

Four Americans killed at Mexican border! we need to go to the border and start kicking some beaner ass, forget the taliban.

AmVet

November 2nd, 2010
10:29 am

Probably because Clinton didn’t leave the White House and the rest of the republic smelling like an open sewer when he left, like George did.

Slick Willy was also law-averse, but at least he didn’t wipe his ___ with the United States Constitution like BushCorp did.

He had his failures too, but at least when he ran a military campaign, it went splendidly and we lost ZERO lives in combat, unlike the botched Crusades where over 5,000 flag-draped coffins came home to Dover AFB needlessly.

And on and on and on and on…

Which makes it all the more bizarre how the electorate completely blocks out the unending debacles and disasters of these non-conservative neo-cons and are now ready for more of the same.

Good times in Delusionville…

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
10:31 am

keep – agree to an extent, but it was really Greenspan urging “innovative” financing that ginned up the real estate market (mortgage backed securities, which were pumped up with ARM mortgages – what, 8% interest after 3 years? Great investment if the mortgagee pays the entire 30 years). Easy money policy ALWAYS overheats the economy, resulting in a deep recession/depression. I do not substantially blame builders – BUT, the bankers “bad business practices”. All the bankers were highly educated folks, but got super greedy – thus they fell in love with the reflection in the mirror. Hubris has a habit of coming back and seriously biting the entity in the butt.

Steveo

November 2nd, 2010
10:32 am

Fight @ 10:26

Well stated and it sounds like a great starting point. But who is going to make it happen? I have lost all my faith in the DC crowd. But I think this election is a wake up call for both sides!

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
10:32 am

However, 9/11 can be easily placed on Bill Clintons left over foreign policy debacles – ironic that now his wife is SOS.

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
10:34 am

avenger – you are dreaming. The Marines, yes; sailors, uh, how many sailors on a ship were killed in the last two wars? How many ships have been sunk? How many opposing navies have fired upon a US ship?

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
10:36 am

AmVet – do you remember using NATO to attack kosovo? That is in no way the proper mission for NATO? Do you remember Clinton effectively crushing those who bombed the WTC in 93? Blew up the 2 embassies in Africa? Bombed the Cole?

AmVet

November 2nd, 2010
10:36 am

AFret to my point, read the second 10:32.

Even though BushCorp was completely asleep at the wheel for nine months and even though they myopically and completely disregarded imminent warnings of the exact threat, it is Slick Willy’s fault…

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
10:41 am

AmVet – they did not block it out – the Iraq war proved to be unnecessary, so the conservative stayed home & the dems came in. The electorate is a pendulum, keying on spending & the economy. Neither highly paid party can do the tough job – cutting spending & firing a whole lot of federal employees, including reducing the Navy – i believe, & maybe avenger can confirm – we have 440 ships afloat throughout the world – it is not sustainable, considering we have no viable enemies.

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
10:44 am

AmVet – we do concur, and a lot of this bad economy goes back to Bush/Paulsen – but, Obutthead really blew his stimulus $$$ opportunity – proved he is as dumb at the economy as Bush was in disasters.

Independent J

November 2nd, 2010
10:48 am

LadyGG…

really? All of America’s problems….damn your insightful…Can we blame Obamas war in Afghanistan for all of our economic downfalls …or is that a free pass…lol
please dont breed!!!

paleo-neo-Carlinist

November 2nd, 2010
10:51 am

Paddy O, hate to sound like a broken record, but go to theamericanconservative.com and read this month’s slam of central banking and the Fed for some additional ammo to throw at Greenspan and the concept of debt-fueled spending. also, while both Clinton and Bush are culpable re: 9/11, if you really want to be fair (and balanced), you might go all the way back to Ike (CIA operations in Iran, which installed the Shah). interestingly enough, it was neo-con punching bag Jimmy Carter who reluctantly identified the Middle East (oil) as a “strategic interest” of the USA, but urged Americans to reduce consumption of oil (”turn down the thermostat”) with in lieu of the “blood and treasure” required to represent US interests in the region.

Tommy Maddox

November 2nd, 2010
10:56 am

Whoa – a whole lot of hand wringing going on…

willie lynch

November 2nd, 2010
10:59 am

I’m still mystified. Did government shrink under the last Republican administration? Conservative restraint? What the he%% are you people talking about?

You people really are stupid!

Road Scholar

November 2nd, 2010
11:00 am

Based on Conservative’s comments in the past, and if they capture either the Senate or House, the Repubs will be responsible for the deficit and budget. let the conservative whining begin! Oh it has for the last two years…

Tommy Maddox

November 2nd, 2010
11:09 am

Nope Willie – the government did not shrink under the last Republican Admin. That is what gave rise in part to the Tea Party brand.

JDW

November 2nd, 2010
11:13 am

“Kinda like the past 2 years, huh Cynthia? Has it hit $14 trillion yet?”

Not to spoil a good lie PeaDawg, but the first Obama Administration deficit is about $1.29 Trillion vs. Duhbya’s last one of $1.4 Trillion. Neither are good but the assertion that Obama has increased the deficit is incorrect. A more proper way of saying it is that you don’t think he has fixed it fast enough.

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
11:15 am

Finally, some truth & understanding of CAUSE & AFFECT – the TEA party rose due to the false promises of repubs & the tax & spend philosophy of the “big tent” of losers that is the democratic party. If repubs fail, as I stated, next go around you will have a very viable TEA party – who although they are not very oriented to foreign policy (really the executive branches duty), could come in and really slash spending by 5 – 20 % per year for the next 5 years, and we would be close to a balanced budget. However, you need to have a surplus of about $500 billion to pay off the debt & reimburse the SS trust fund.

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
11:16 am

Our solution to oil (internal combustion engine which has been around for over 120 years now), is electric cars – why has GE not done this? Stock owned by oil companies, or just too interested in taking all their profit and creating GE financial?

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
11:18 am

JDW – I would say he has exasperated the deficit, with exceptionally poorly planned and executed Stimulus – he utterly failed to deliver on his policy goal of 8% unemployment. Why? Obutthead did not know what he was doing with the trillion – just as would have been expected from a novice.

AmVet

November 2nd, 2010
11:20 am

News flash, the government has not shrunk under ANY Republican administration in my lifetime. Presuming that Ike didn’t.

The insanely misnamed term fiscal conservatism is for Reaganesque rubes only…

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
11:20 am

I am of the distinct impression our entire economy (the claim it is 15 trillion) is a house of cards. It is really about 11 trillion.

James

November 2nd, 2010
11:20 am

Someone said it earlier- enable the great American worker, fade DC, and grow the darn pie versus arguing about how to slice the pie. Along with growing the pie, stop dropping pieces of the pie on the floor and calling it “necessary”- see the drunken Krugman and the Fed for that one.

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
11:20 am

AmVet – repubs just look like fiscal conservatives in light of democratic spending tendencies.

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
11:21 am

AmVet – if Clinton had a democratic congress from 94 – 2000, does he have a budget surplus?

willie lynch

November 2nd, 2010
11:24 am

Tommy,

TP is Republican lite. They will get swallowed up once the politics get rolling. If TP’s really think they have a chance to do something, they drank the koolaid.

The Repubs used them to help stir votes and they only went further right to get elected. Once they feel they’ve gotten what they want TP’s will have outlived their usefulness. Name the TP candidates who will have clout in DC.

Sorry, but you’ve been played.

AmVet

November 2nd, 2010
11:28 am

“AmVet – if Clinton had a democratic congress from 94 – 2000, does he have a budget surplus?”

Of course not.

He never had one in the first place.

Accounting tricks, mainly involving Social Security, and Washington doublespeak on a massive scale had bipartisan support.

Which was interesting, but not useful…

Sorry, duty calls. Being a good little capitalist and exercising my right to franchise.

See y’all later…

barking frog

November 2nd, 2010
11:29 am

Deficits reflect a negative in revenue, Debt may
reflect a confidence in the governments ability
to protect assets. Neither is a true picture of
the financial health of the US. Only a balance
sheet could show our net worth and that is
darn near impossible to produce. What value
would US good will have?

Tommy Maddox

November 2nd, 2010
11:29 am

Well, we’ll see bud. I hope you’re wrong but we’ll all see ’bout the same time.

Bring back "Babe Alley" to the Georgia Capitol

November 2nd, 2010
11:34 am

The term “deficit” is actually very misleading as it only refers to the amount of money that the federal government will borrow in a single fiscal year to cover the total amount of “expenditures” in the final budget. The deficit is currently in the 1.5 TRILLION dollar range, a shockingly large enough number, right? The NATIONAL DEBT is actually the best way to measure the federal government’s fiscal health, or in this case, ailing fiscal health…..and the nat’l debt just happens to be a measly 14 TRILLION dollars compared against a 13 trillion dollar GDP…..So all is well, right?

AFret

November 2nd, 2010
11:38 am

I guess the name calling does not apply in certain cases, huh, CT!!!

CYNT U MUST KEEP UR JOB

November 2nd, 2010
9:16 am
TODAY YOU RACISTS CRACKERS WILL GET YOUR WISH TO VOTE FOR YOUR EVIL REPUBLICANS!

PLEASE NATHAN DEAL AND OTHER REPUBLICANS,FINISH THE JOB OF BREAKING THESE REDNECKS IN RURAL GEORGIA!

GLAD THAT THESE HICKS BANKS ARE CLOSING,HOW DID THOSE 8 YEARS OF BUSH TAXCUTS WORKOUT?

WHERE DID THOSE JOBS GO?

BUSH SAID 8 YEARS OF TAXCUTS WILL PRODUCE JOBS? WHERE ARE THEY? YOU CRACKERS WILL CONTINUE TO GET WHAT IS COMING TO YOU? HELL AND BRIMSTONE!

willie lynch

November 2nd, 2010
11:42 am

AFret,

Don’t be alarmed. That “racist” rant was an inside job.

Gator Joe

November 2nd, 2010
11:43 am

Cynthia,
Your prediction is accurate, in addition to doing nothing about the deficit, Republicans if they regain control, will once again allow Big Oil, Big Business, and the very wealthy to damage the environment and enrich themselves at the expense of the middle class, the poor, and all of our children. Ironically, those working class people who are unemployed or struggling economically, and vote for Republicans, because they are blinded by their bigotry and ignorance, will soon discover they voted for people who are responsible for their current problems, and will only make things worse for them. They will have sent a message allright, at their own expense.

left wing (the original)

November 2nd, 2010
11:48 am

Bring back “Babe Alley” to the Georgia Capitol @ 11:34

True. The deficit is currently projected at about $1.5 trillion dollars. The budget itself is not substantially different from bugets from the last several years. The difference is that revenue has decreased. After all, we’ve been in a recession for the past 2 years. This has depressed government revenue to the tune of almost a trillion dollars.

Here’s the thing to keep in mind; the high deficits started 30 years ago under Reagan, continued and expanded under Bush I. Clinton started controlling the debt by reducing the size of the military and raising taxes. Bush II increased our debt by lowering taxes.

Be sure and vote. And if you’re a republican, don’t forget they want you to vote tomorrow, to reduce congestion at polling places.

barking frog

November 2nd, 2010
11:49 am

Bush/Petraeus 2012.

Fleabyte

November 2nd, 2010
11:52 am

Why do I find it occasionally entertaining to read Ms. Tucker’s trite, little blogs, when they have the drawing power and substance of a cripple fight? Morbid curiosity, I guess.

markie mark

November 2nd, 2010
11:52 am

I posted something to the effect of this last week….and got no response. Zero.

This question is this…what do people on the left want? People like me, who are fiscally conservative, pretty libertarian socially, were also driven into the ditch by Bush. Everyone on here from the left has seen most of us conservatives agree that Bush did not act like we expected. I am not going to get into why he did what he did, because I dont care. He disappointed conservatives terribly.

But where do conservatives go from here? We hear about a group of activists who are determined to try and reign in government spending. We get excited about it because the Republican party damn sure hasnt. So the Tea Party grows. And makes it damn clear they are fighting both sides. And what does the left do? Attacks it and vilifies it at every turn. Snears at the mention of the name. Did you guys try to join? Apparently, from the posts on this blog, this is precisely what you want…deficit reduction, etc.

Ok then. Start you own movement if you won’t join ours. Name it the “Big ole ABC Party” if that makes you happy. But quit trying to destroy a movement that is trying to do what both sides say they wont. If you will not join with me/us, start your party and I will join with you. If you stay true to the principles of reigning in spending, it may shock you how many will jump on your bandwagon. But let us be fiscal first, and not get bogged down in the social issues, for god sake. We no longer have time for that

jconservative

November 2nd, 2010
11:57 am

Some of you are making comments based on wrong information. Here goes:

The FY 2009 deficit of $1.416 trillion was Bush’s last budget and he is credited with that deficit.

FY 2010 ending 9/30/10 was Obama’s first budget and he gets credit for that $1.294 trillion deficit.

This is the way the US government keeps records. The President that submits a budget to Congress in March gets credit for that budget. He owns it.

In March 2008 Bush submitted the FY 2009 budget to Congress and he owns it. In March 2009 Obama submitted the FY 2010 budget and he owns it. In March 2010 Obama submitted FY 2011, the current Fiscal Year, to Congress and he owns it.

The current National Debt is $13.669 Trillion (as of 10/29/10).

Bush’s first budget was FY 2002 introduced in March 2001. Day one of FY 2002 the National Debt was $5.806 trillion.

Obama’s first budget was FY 2010 introduced in March 2009. Day one of
FY 2010 the National Debt was $11.921 Trillion.

You can see the National Debt at publicdebt.treas.gov
Just hit the green button. You can also find out how to make a contribution to reduce the National Debt if you are really concerned about the National Debt.

At the site you can play around with the dates and see just who the culprits are on the National Debt. Here is a hint, the culprits are both Democrats and Republicans. I have been unable to find a single innocent president in the last 30 years.

But if you insist on pretending otherwise, so be it.

barking frog

November 2nd, 2010
11:57 am

Fleabyte

November 2nd, 2010
11:52 am
they have the drawing power and substance of a cripple fight?
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Watching the election?

Nothing Is Free

November 2nd, 2010
11:59 am

Willie Lynch

Go here:

http :// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File: US_Federal_Debt_as_ Percent_of_GDP_by_President.jpg

take a look at that chart.

You can see where the Democrats took over Congress by the sharp increase in our deficit. But other than the first two Bush years of moderate growth, the spending leveled off until the dims took over.

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
12:04 pm

The Bush tax cuts, which I have benefitted from namely from the reduction of death benefit taxes, were NOT a wise idea – it is folly to reduce taxes while waging 2 wars, plus increasing benefits ala the medicare prescription legislation. Thus, to reduce the unsustainable deficit, you must reduce spending.

barking frog

November 2nd, 2010
12:04 pm

Obama will sign an extension of the Bush tax cuts in
order to keep his promise to not raise taxes on the middle
class.

WARRIOR FOR MY PEOPLE!

November 2nd, 2010
12:08 pm

ALL YOU HATERS THAT ARE TALKING BAD ABOUT OUR PRESIDENT FOR NO REASON NEED TO AX YOUR SELF IF YOU ARE BETTER OFF NOW THAN YOU WAS TWO YEAR AGO!

Joe The Plumber Too.

November 2nd, 2010
12:09 pm

Cindy, I don’t know if the Republicans will shrink the deficit, but will shrink is the stench currently coming out of Washington DC as the dumpocraps clean out offices and steal whatever furniture they can (oops my bad, that was the last dumpocrap President, slick willie the rapist, wasn’t it) and head on back home to sit on the boards of those evil rich companies they rant about. Good riddance dimwits, two more years and obozo can come join you losers.

Joe The Plumber Too.

November 2nd, 2010
12:12 pm

Funniest line I’d all day: Little old woman maybe 70 or 75 this morning at my polling place, who remarked to the gentleman passing out the I Voted stickers as she was leaving ” Now that’s change I can believe in”. Priceless.

Reality

November 2nd, 2010
12:13 pm

Republicans cannot do simple math…. The deficit cannot be reduced if we also reduce income (and for the federal government, that would be taxes).

If what Cynthia proposes is true, and the republicans cannot reduce the deficit, they will simply – as they always have – find a way to blame democrats.

@Barking frog – allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire is NOT the same as raising taxes. Bush put a temporary tax cut in place while the actual rates on the books did not change. Allowing these to expire means that the rates return to where they were – that is technically NOT a raise in taxes (no matter how the republicans spin it).

Also, this year the democrats and Bush did want to extend the tax cuts for the middle class, but the republicans held this hostage in Congress because they wanted a $700 billion tax cut for the top 2% income earners. This was not passed.

barking frog

November 2nd, 2010
12:17 pm

Reality

November 2nd, 2010
12:13 pm
@Barking frog – allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire is NOT the same as raising taxes.
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Tell that to the dude who gets a smaller paycheck.

Lee Jackson

November 2nd, 2010
12:31 pm

Last time I looked at my check stub, Social Security and Medicare is being deducted from my pay. The government isn’t paying anything. Will somebody help me with that.

willie lynch

November 2nd, 2010
12:32 pm

Nothing,

Thanks for the info. It looks like most of the Presidents decreased or slowed spending during election years. And let’s not forget the Bush administration did not include it’s supplemental war funding requests with it’s regular defense spending requests, thus skewing these numbers.
Look, the money is spent but it seems some don’t want to acurately assign the cost of this fiasco to it’s proper place.

Lil' Barry Bailout

November 2nd, 2010
12:37 pm

Republicans will work to shrink the deficit, but it will require the Democrats to compromise.

In other words, the Republicans will propose $500 billion in cuts, and the Democrats will have to compromise and agree to $450 billion.

See how compromise works after you lose?

guy

November 2nd, 2010
12:38 pm

CT is probably right, but she doesn’t want Republicans or anyone to shrink the deficit anyway.There’s a bad moon rising for all of us.We can argue with each other,dislike each other,or whatever but the damage of greed,lies,giveaways,etc.is simply taking it’s toll.Enjoy the trip!

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
12:48 pm

Reality is on a commune some where. It is not repub spin – the dems have an option to extend or not. If not, then they are responsible for increasing the citizens’ tax burden. However, by slashing fed spending as indicated previously, you will start to reduce the deficit. I would recommend a goal of at least 5% per year, when the economy turns around, increase this target to 20%.

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
12:50 pm

The repubs need to pass budgets with lower spending, let Obutthead veto it, then follow the gov’t shutdown in 95. This will pass the target to Obozo, and let repubs honestly state they slashed the deficit, but the tax & spend dems leader rejected their efforts.

Lil' Barry Bailout

November 2nd, 2010
12:57 pm

The difference between Republicans and Democrats is that, if the public support is there, Republicans will cut the deficit and shrink the government. The Democrats never will, because their power comes from the government sector. Republicans power comes from the productive sector.

Van Jones

November 2nd, 2010
12:57 pm

They had better get busy reducing the deficit or face getting tossed out on their collective hineys come the next election. The people are FED UP!

Lil Bush Bailout

November 2nd, 2010
12:59 pm

Lil Barry-
So how much did the government and deficit shrink from 2000-2006??

Angry As Hell

November 2nd, 2010
1:08 pm

jconservative @ 11:57am

Now that’s what I call excellent information. Thank you for putting numbers in there that clearly shows who “owns” what. It looks like there’s a lot of blame to go around, doesn’t it? Thanks, again!

HDB

November 2nd, 2010
1:08 pm

Lil’ Barry Bailout November 2nd, 2010
12:37 pm

“See how compromise works after you lose?” Didn’t work that way….remember when the Republicans lost….all they said was NO!! Democrats can do the SAME THING!! When the VETO cmes forth…and it won’t be overridden….THEN where’s the compromise??

There NEEDS to be some POSITIVE policies coming out of Congress…not just obstruction!!

HDB

November 2nd, 2010
1:11 pm

Lil’ Barry Bailout November 2nd, 2010
12:57 pm
“Republicans power comes from the productive sector.”

Like the WORKERS who MAKE things?? When their jobs are OFFSHORED by MANAGEMENT….and the Republicans support the MANAGEMENT moreso than LABOR…..

The people WHO do the production are shortchanged by those who MANAGE!!
Rethink……

False Evidence Appearing Real (FEAR)

November 2nd, 2010
1:17 pm

CT – What I don’t understand is why the Congress keeps dancing around the notion of closing un-needed overseas military installations and re-deploying those troops and resources. This past September General Roger Brady, the four-star general who commands U.S. air forces in Europe, said “We’ve got too many daggone bases,”.

Defense Secretary Gates has a proposal that would affect about $400 billion of the Pentagon’s total $700 billion budget, part of a larger effort to save money for new weapons programs and troops.

Speaking as a military brat who graduated from a HS in Zwiebrucken, Germany in the late 70’s, this question of closing down overseas bases seems so elementary. Whatever happened to listening to our Generals???

Angry As Hell

November 2nd, 2010
1:18 pm

When Republicans regain control of the House and possibly the Senate, they need to put Mitch McConnell in a box and not let him out. How many of you out there would be willing to compromise with “the other side” when one of its leaders makes the public statement that his number one job is to ensure that the Obama doesn’t have a second term? Does that sound like somebody who wants to sit at the table and try to work out as many differences as possible? If I were Obama, I’d veto any bill that Mitch McConnell endorsed….every single one. Obama needs to let Senate and House Republicans know that he will not sit at the table and reach agreement or compromise on issues if McConnell is sitting there, too.

HDB

November 2nd, 2010
1:30 pm

Angry As Hell November 2nd, 2010
1:18 pm

SHO — YOU’RE RIGHT!!!

Liberal Chicks are UGLY

November 2nd, 2010
1:38 pm

Here’s a prediction you can count on, this blog won’t be any more intelligent tommorow.

JDW

November 2nd, 2010
1:41 pm

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
11:18 am
“JDW – I would say he has exasperated the deficit, with exceptionally poorly planned and executed Stimulus – he utterly failed to deliver on his policy goal of 8% unemployment. Why? Obutthead did not know what he was doing with the trillion – just as would have been expected from a novice.”

From your comment I am guessing that you did not even bother to read the article referenced on Harvard’s findings referenced in the orginal blog post….why don’t you actually get the facts and then we can chat more.

http: //blogs.reuters.com/ justinfox/2010/10/25/whats-really-behind-that-1-3-trillion-deficit/

Liberal Chicks are UGLY

November 2nd, 2010
1:41 pm

So will the prisdent, if congress changes over, handle the change with dignity and respect, or will he stomp his feet and whine like a spoiled teenager?

I predict the latter. Never in history has there been a more divisive president. He really is that dumb.

JDW

November 2nd, 2010
1:43 pm

jconservative wrote:

“I have been unable to find a single innocent president in the last 30 years.”

That is a true statement, but there are those that are more culpable than others…lots of red on that list.

jconservative

November 2nd, 2010
1:49 pm

Lee Jackson November 2nd, 2010
12:31 pm
Last time I looked at my check stub, Social Security and Medicare is being deducted from my pay. The government isn’t paying anything. Will somebody help me with that.
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The Medicare deducted from your paycheck pays for Part A Medicare. When you go on Medicare and draw Social Security a deduction will be made (minimum of $96.40 per month) from your SS check to pay for Part B Medicare. Part D Medicare (prescription drugs) and Medicaid are paid out of the general tax fund, we borrow the money from China and Japan since no provision was made to pay as you go when those bills were passed.

Hope this helps.

Scarecrow

November 2nd, 2010
1:51 pm

Will someone please answer these questions? Do you think that Sarah Palin is smarter than President Obama? AND if yes, Does Sarah Palin have the answers to put people back to work? and Finally, Who would you trust to handle foreign affairs — Sara Palin or President Obama?

PS: If Bristol Palin is NOT eliminated tonight on DTS — there should be a protest!!!!!

Lil' Barry Bailout

November 2nd, 2010
2:14 pm

HDB

There NEEDS to be some POSITIVE policies coming out of Congress…not just obstruction!!
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I agree, and if the Democrat party is willing to compromise, there will be.

Lil' Barry Bailout

November 2nd, 2010
2:15 pm

Lil Bush Bailout

So how much did the government and deficit shrink from 2000-2006??
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You need to read my post again. Carefully this time.

casual observer

November 2nd, 2010
2:19 pm

TURN OUT THE LIGHTS THE PARTY’S OVER.

stop censoring the blog!

Dave

November 2nd, 2010
2:23 pm

“:@Barking frog – allowing the Bush tax cuts to expire is NOT the same as raising taxes. Bush put a temporary tax cut in place while the actual rates on the books did not change. Allowing these to expire means that the rates return to where they were – that is technically NOT a raise in taxes (no matter how the republicans spin it).”

Dumbest comment on the thread. Typical Dem double speak. Apparently, when your taxes go up on Jan.1, that will not be a tax increase – at least in leftist Orwellian speak. That’s right up there with saying that slowing the growth of a program is the same as cutting the programs budget.

Bush made the tax cuts temporary to get it past a Dem filibuster.

Halftrack

November 2nd, 2010
2:30 pm

CT, Yes Pres. Bush left the house on fire but Obummer & crowd have poured flammable liquids on the fire and now they have increased the debt 3 trillion dollars more. It’s a lot harder to put out that blaze now. Also the Prez. has veto power. Gridlock or some give & take to keep Americans from being on food stamps and have a pay check instead. Taxes come from pay checks, the more of them you have; the more taxes you get. It appears that Obummer likes food stamps; that way he can keep folks on the farm instead of them seeing Pairee.

OBAMA'S ENEMY (THE VOTER)

November 2nd, 2010
2:48 pm

AMERICA REJECTS SOCIALISM ! 11-01-10

OBAMA'S ENEMY (THE VOTER)

November 2nd, 2010
2:49 pm

AMERICA ACCEPTS FREEDAM (AGAIN) 11-02-10

Tommy Maddox

November 2nd, 2010
2:59 pm

Hey Scarecrow:

1. Yes.

2. Yes.

3. Most definitely yes.

joe

November 2nd, 2010
3:17 pm

Another prediction: Obama loses big in 2012

eddy

November 2nd, 2010
3:17 pm

Prediction: In 2012, 98% of blacks will vote for Obama.

Prediction: When Obama is defeated and shown the door, all who voted to depose King Obama will be callled racists.

Just helping CT get her column ready for 2012.

ATL Guy

November 2nd, 2010
3:18 pm

Give the people what they want: they want to vote for uneducated idiots with sketchy backgrounds? Then that’s what they are going to get. It’s just a matter of time before some of these incoming Republicans get indicted or impeached for financial shenanigans. Let’s start with Nathan Deal – the hole he’s in financially makes him an attractive target for companies looking to pass an envelope under the table in exchange for a favor. It’s just a matter of time before the Republicans regret the Tea Party and its lot.

Harry Callahan

November 2nd, 2010
3:19 pm

Angry As Hell

November 2nd, 2010
1:18 pm

“When Republicans regain control of the House and possibly the Senate, they need to put Mitch McConnell in a box and not let him out. How many of you out there would be willing to compromise with “the other side” when one of its leaders makes the public statement that his number one job is to ensure that the Obama doesn’t have a second term? Does that sound like somebody who wants to sit at the table and try to work out as many differences as possible?”

For those who believe, as I do, that the single greatest problem and single greatest threat currently facing America is Barack Hussein Obama, it logically follows that defeating his 2012 re-election bid is a necessary first step towards getting our country back on track.

And before you go calling me a wacko, we’re going to find out in the morning how many people agreed with me today.

williebkind

November 2nd, 2010
3:21 pm

Angry As Hell

November 2nd, 2010
1:18 pm
Obama has already went against the will of the people and he reaps what he sowed today. You want dejavu all over again…

Harry Callahan

November 2nd, 2010
3:22 pm

A PREDICTION: Cynthia won’t find time to list all the things Obama promised to do, then failed to do. She reserves that for Republicans.

williebkind

November 2nd, 2010
3:22 pm

eddy

November 2nd, 2010
3:17 pm
You are clairvoyant!!

lovelyliz

November 2nd, 2010
3:26 pm

Shawny
That happened back in Jan 2009

What the

November 2nd, 2010
3:29 pm

@ Ragnar Danneskjöld So you’re interested in ONLY the non-military spending of the feds. Do you realize the military spending is 54% of the budget? If you want to go after wasteful spending you’ll find a lot more under that section than all others combined. Just because it’s military doesn’t mean it’s efficient, competent or wise. You cant see the forest for trees buddy.

George W

November 2nd, 2010
3:29 pm

HAHA it is about time CT spoke up. I was waiting to see what crazy comment she would come up with today. Today is the day of reckoning!

Harry Callahan

November 2nd, 2010
3:32 pm

Gator Joe

November 2nd, 2010
11:43 am

“Ironically, those working class people who are unemployed or struggling economically, and vote for Republicans, because they are blinded by their bigotry and ignorance, will soon discover they voted for people who are responsible for their current problems, and will only make things worse for them. They will have sent a message allright, at their own expense.”

Gator, nice attempt at belittling Republican voters. Question for you though…if you’re so damn smart, tell us why you need government to provide your retirement income, provide your health care, provide your job, and protect you from those evil corporate boogeymen, while the so-called bigoted and ignorant can do all those things for themselves? Thanks in advance.

Mike Nelson

November 2nd, 2010
3:32 pm

I wonder if elementary school math would have predicted the increase in capital gains taxes that were paid when the long term capital gains rate was reduced from 20% to 15%.

Harry Callahan

November 2nd, 2010
3:34 pm

Liberals are so funny…anyone who can save and invest for their own retirement and plan for their own health care must be a Nazi, racist, bigot, etc…all because Keep Up The Good Fight or Gator Joe says so!!! Awesome intellectual argument you guys!!! High five!!!

David Granger

November 2nd, 2010
3:37 pm

You’re absolutely right, Cynthia. I don’t believe the Republicans will shrink the deficit anymore than I believe “Obamacare” will pay for itself. (No matter how many times you’ve tried to tell us it will.)

Texas Tea

November 2nd, 2010
3:38 pm

One last ditch effort to try and swing some votes, aye Tuck? Do all the bad mouthing you want Libs, but you will realize what the American public wants by later tonight. And that is the same public that elected your party to majority in the House and Senate, not to mention the White House, so don’t get all furious and point fingers, cause your boys had their chance, and they couldn’t get the job done. Obama was the trendy pick in the presidential election. He was black, had an appeasing slogan, all of Hollywood campaigned for him, along with MTV, and young wannabe hip voters. A lot of stuff that didn’t add up to anything but a mad and upset country. If the Demmies pull off an amazing election day and survive, gosh help us, but I cast my vote, and will live with the decisions no matter how much it pains me, but I do believe we’ll be back to a clean slate tonight once the polls close.

Can't Believe this BS

November 2nd, 2010
3:39 pm

Typical government, tax receipts are down, let’s spend more.

George W

November 2nd, 2010
3:43 pm

Cynthia must have had a hard time sleeping last night because she knows the big bad repubs are coming! hahaha

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
3:43 pm

I am still in shock that Bush won a second term; EXCEPT: Kerry NEVER ran on his senate record. Thus, the American people noticed a dedicated flip flopper. The voters in the country are getting smarter every day. Eventually, both parties may be out of power – if they can not balance the budget, then start running a surplus to pay off the debt & reimburse the SS trust fund. Once all that is done, all this social justice that liberals are so ga-ga about can be addressed, at least a little – or, maybe we just slash our taxes!

George W

November 2nd, 2010
3:44 pm

Here is a good question. I wonder if a black republican ran for president what she would do???? Makes for an interesting conversation doesnt it?

Can't Believe this BS

November 2nd, 2010
3:44 pm

CT must get paid everytime she mentions the Bush Tax cuts. It’s funny how money that is not the goverment’s to begin with can be included in this discussion. Oh yeah, people that make over 250k do pay more taxes already.

Gm

November 2nd, 2010
3:45 pm

Poor President Obama actually thought conservatives whites were going to give him time like George Bush to turn this thing country around. HA Ha, you see the way tea bagers, conservatives are acting did not shock minorities in this country, there history always take over.
Back in April 2009, with 90 days in office the tea bigots were already marching downtown Atlanta so when the rest of the world hear you saying “we are going to take our country back” we know its a racist remark:

George W

November 2nd, 2010
3:48 pm

Gm……it is hilarious that you guys always bring up the race card. Get over it. All you do is inspire racism to become more prevelant on both sides.

Nothing Is Free

November 2nd, 2010
3:50 pm

Angry As Hell

- -How many of you out there would be willing to compromise with “the other side” when one of its leaders makes the public statement that his number one job is to ensure that the Obama doesn’t have a second term?- -

I am hearing a lot of this kind of stuff. Since when did any political party actually want the opposition to have two full terms?

When Bush was in office, do you really think that Pelosi wanted him to be there for eight years?

Pal: Obama is just a man. He isn’t a God. It’s OK when Republicans don’t support him. It’s OK when the opposition wants him gone. It happens to every president that there has ever been.

PLAESE start facing the reality that Obama is not a God.

Jesus was a Liberal

November 2nd, 2010
3:53 pm

Jobs are magically going to fall from the sky and the economy will instantly be back on track “once the republicans are back in office.”

Nothing Is Free

November 2nd, 2010
3:56 pm

GM

From the UAW from 2007

- -Take our country back
our marching orders: It was too long coming, but President Bush finally had to concede in January that things aren’t going so well for ordinary Americans. Even so, it was only after world markets began behaving badly in response to the U.S. credit crunch that the administration started talking about ways to pump some life back into the ailing economy.- -

So were they also being racist, or can only Republicans be racist for using that term?

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
3:56 pm

America is like that abused spouse that keeps going back to its abuser, even though they know it’s no good for them. How quickly we forget 2001-2008. Smh…

Contractor

November 2nd, 2010
3:56 pm

Gm,

Race card is the only card you have? With the lack of grammar you present, I’m thinking that’s the only motivation you have to comment on here. You’ll need to bring more ammo than that Gm, or you’ll get destroyed by anyone of any party with the slightest bit of knowledge.

I have a prediction too Tucker… The country will no longer continue to head in the wrong direction like it was.

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
3:57 pm

“The voters in the country are getting smarter every day. ”

You’ve got to be kidding me.

Nothing Is Free

November 2nd, 2010
3:57 pm

Jesus was a Liberal

- -Jobs are magically going to fall from the sky and the economy will instantly be back on track “once the republicans are back in office.”- -

Confidence that the government isn’t going to screw you inspires economic progress.

Just watch what happens.

Harry Callahan

November 2nd, 2010
4:00 pm

George W

November 2nd, 2010
3:44 pm

“Here is a good question. I wonder if a black republican ran for president what she would do???? Makes for an interesting conversation doesnt it?”

I wonder what Cynthia would do if a republican president nominated a black man to the Supreme Court of hte United States? Oh, wait……………………..

Kamchak's gerbil

November 2nd, 2010
4:00 pm

Gm

November 2nd, 2010
3:45 pm
Poor President Obama actually thought conservatives whites were going to give him time like George Bush to turn this thing country around. HA Ha, you see the way tea bagers, conservatives are acting did not shock minorities in this country, there history always take over.
Back in April 2009, with 90 days in office the tea bigots were already marching downtown Atlanta so when the rest of the world hear you saying “we are going to take our country back” we know its a racist remark:

Gm – your grammar is sad – please take some of your usual guvment check and attend a writing class. Then conservatives won’t laugh at you.

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:00 pm

So can someone explain what “taking our country back” means if it doesn’t involve race? Because we allllll know racism just absolutely positively does NOT exist anymore.

The first time I heard this slogan was from a Tea Party rally aired on Fox News. The guy just so happened to have a confederate flag on his shirt, and a rifle. But I’m pretty sure he’s not racist or anything.

come on son

November 2nd, 2010
4:01 pm

Well one of the reasons a GOP House will not be able to keep their promises is the Presidential Veto. Even if they GOP takes control of the House, the margin will be a ways from overriding a veto. The sweetest irony that I believe will take place tonight is that the GOP will miss taking control of the senate by 2 seats (NV and DE) because Tea Party clamour prevented shoo in republicans from winning the primaries. The cherry on top will be the Democrat in Alaska winning the senate seat in the backyard of Sarah “you betcha, please watch my reality show” Palin because she backed a candidate who had no business running.

Rightwing Troll

November 2nd, 2010
4:01 pm

But we have 8 years as a concrete example of how they will run the budget. There is, and never has been, one whit of humility, nor any admission of complicity in W’s disaterous reign, even in the face of overwhelming evidence of failure with a paper trail and voting record to prove it. It’s gonna be more of McSame from the hate baggers and conservitards… And for this they cheer. Why do they hate America so much?

Nothing Is Free

November 2nd, 2010
4:01 pm

Selective Amnesia

Very selective

When the Democrats took over Congress in 2007, unemployment was 4.7%. A full years later it had taken a year of incompetence from the democrats and still only risen to 5%. Then by the time Obama came it, it was in a nose dive.

Sure. We remember 2001 to 2006. Unemployment at less than 4.5%. People were working.

People do remember when the Republicans were in charge and that’s the entire problem for the democrats.

Johnny Fontane

November 2nd, 2010
4:01 pm

The fact that Cox Enterprises continues to pay you to write your crap is amazing.

Harry Callahan

November 2nd, 2010
4:02 pm

Mike Nelson

November 2nd, 2010
3:32 pm

“I wonder if elementary school math would have predicted the increase in capital gains taxes that were paid when the long term capital gains rate was reduced from 20% to 15%.”

No MIke…seriously…tax rates aren’t really about tax revenue, despite the liberal rants and bleatings to the contrary. No, tax rates are about wealth envy and punishing rich white people. Don’t believe it? Do a youtube search on reverend Jeremiah wright…

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:02 pm

Clarence Thomas hates black people, though. Try again…

Nothing Is Free

November 2nd, 2010
4:02 pm

Selective Amnesia

I have heard it all my life.

Here is an article from 2007 where the UAW was saying it against Bush:

From the UAW from 2007

- -Take our country back
our marching orders: It was too long coming, but President Bush finally had to concede in January that things aren’t going so well for ordinary Americans. Even so, it was only after world markets began behaving badly in response to the U.S. credit crunch that the administration started talking about ways to pump some life back into the ailing economy.- -

So were they also being racist, or can only Republicans be racist for using that term?

Rightwing Troll

November 2nd, 2010
4:03 pm

But he loves the porn…

Harry Callahan

November 2nd, 2010
4:03 pm

Selective Amnesia…care to comment on Jeremiah wright and/or the New Black Panthers? Thanks in advance.

Texas tea

November 2nd, 2010
4:03 pm

Selective Amnesia,

Think outside the box a tad here, and realize take back our country from big government, and allow the people to have a say so. Just go take a nap, and tomorrow it’ll all be explained to you.

Rightwing Troll

November 2nd, 2010
4:04 pm

sure, they hate whitey… what else you wanna know?

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:04 pm

“Sure. We remember 2001 to 2006. Unemployment at less than 4.5%. People were working. ”

And then what happened? Care to finish the story for those of us with “selective amnesia”?

Harry Callahan

November 2nd, 2010
4:04 pm

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:02 pm

“Clarence Thomas hates black people, though. Try again…”

Just like you hate white people.

Rightwing Troll

November 2nd, 2010
4:05 pm

Of course the government is no bigger than it was in the years of 2000-2008, nor are taxes any higher. But, I never know facts to get in the way of the hate baggers arguments.

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:06 pm

@ Texas tea, so why 2009? Big government has been big spending for years. Big Spender Bush wiped a surplus out in a matter of months and poured billions into “liberating” the middle east. What was so significant about 2009? Why couldn’t we take our country back sooner?

Nothing Is Free

November 2nd, 2010
4:07 pm

Selective Amnesia

Sure, I’ll complete the story:

Pelosi and Ried took over Congress, the people who actually spend the money. Spending went nuts and so did unemployment.

You are way out of your league here. If you want to defend the economic policies of the left, you had better head back to Salon because the conservatives here will rip you apart.

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:07 pm

@ Harry. I hate white people? Clarence has gone on record explaining his disdain for blacks. What gave you any indication that I hate whites?

Cranked Up

November 2nd, 2010
4:07 pm

In four years of Congress rule and two years of White House rule, more debt has been piled on to the deficit than ever before in history in the same time. Most of that debt was in a horse puck trillion dollar stimulus bill that nobody read and other nonsense spending waste by pure, unchallenged Democrat rule. This doesn’t even factor in that nasty Obamacare that the majority didn’t want and we were told would shrink the budget deficit – and now of course we know otherwise. And Ms. Tucker has the gall to say Republicans won’t stop spending like that? Shall we all put on our little propeller beanie caps too? Sheesh.

Oh – one other thing – how can the Democrats be for the Middle Class when they are pondering eliminating two tax deductions very important to said Middle Class: child credit and mortgage interest rate. Can’t wait to hear an Obamabot spin that one.

Nothing Is Free

November 2nd, 2010
4:09 pm

Selective Amnesia

Care to offer ANYTHING to prove that Judge Thomas hates Black People?

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:10 pm

@ Nothing. Your font does not frighten me. Recall that I am the poster with a black belt. Do not threaten me with a good time.

What happened was jobs were shipped over seas en masse. Big Spender and his Wall Street friends are the ones who went nuts, and we were dumb enough to bail them out. How much tax $ have we spent stateside compared with what we’re spending in the middle east, oh great one?

Rafe Hollister

November 2nd, 2010
4:11 pm

Wondering what would happen with a Black female running as a Republican for president? Easy one to answer, the same thing that happened when Alan Keyes ran. I voted for him, but to Blacks he was an Uncle Tom. Condeleeza Rice was never respected in Black America as she was not from the Dem Plantation. Race matters much less than politics.

Gm: why is it that America voted for Barry overwhelmingly, but now they are racists. Lets see not racist in 08, but just up and turned racist in 10, makes no sense to me.

If Sin-thee is right about the Reps not reducing the deficient, which she probably is, it is because they will never get any budget cutting legislation through the Senate and ole Barry (whadda you think a stimulus is?)

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:13 pm

“care to comment on Jeremiah wright and/or the New Black Panthers? Thanks in advance.”

Are they politicians? That’s the topic of discussion here. If the answer to this is “no” kindly entertain racist clamor with someone else. Thanks in advance.

Harry Callahan

November 2nd, 2010
4:13 pm

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:07 pm

“@ Harry. I hate white people? Clarence has gone on record explaining his disdain for blacks. What gave you any indication that I hate whites?”

I don’t have to prove you hate white people. You have to prove you DON’T hate them. Just like, in your mind, you don’t have to prove that Clarence Thomas hates black people. You merely assert it, then it’s his obligation to prove he doesn’t.

See how that works? Liberals are so easy to dissect.

I look forward to your proof that you don’e hate whites.

nofreecheese

November 2nd, 2010
4:13 pm

Virtually our entire political class is a bunch of liars and spendthrifts; don’t consider yourself some kind of oracle when your prediction inevitably comes true.

Kamchak's gerbil

November 2nd, 2010
4:14 pm

Gm – you haven’t replied – having trouble with your 4th grade grammar?

Nothing Is Free

November 2nd, 2010
4:14 pm

Selective Amnesia

NAFTA was passed in 1993 by Bill Clinton. Do you even know what NAFTA is?

Black Belt? Sounds like Internet Tough to me.

EMMA

November 2nd, 2010
4:15 pm

When Clinton left office the country was in the black, we had a surplus. When Bush left office we were in the red, deficit. Soooooooo, who was it that got us in this mess? It sure wasn’t Obama, he just got into the presidency!!!! Still wet behind the ears!!!! Last time I checked Bush was still a Republican.

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:15 pm

Democrats and Republicans: GANGS OF AMERICA. Red vs. blue.

Choose your side and argue who’s dumber, more racist, or “better fit” to be in office. At the end of the day they are in bed TOGETHER.

Cranked Up

November 2nd, 2010
4:16 pm

“But, I never know facts to get in the way of the hate baggers arguments.”

Hey mindless mouth breathing liberal troglodyte: can’t you people come up with a more refined and cognitive epithet to snarl other than “hate”? Oh never mind – carry on with the mindlessness. Not that’s it’s going to do you any good at the end of the day today. {smile}

Harry Callahan

November 2nd, 2010
4:16 pm

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:13 pm

“care to comment on Jeremiah wright and/or the New Black Panthers? Thanks in advance.”

“Are they politicians? That’s the topic of discussion here. If the answer to this is “no” kindly entertain racist clamor with someone else. Thanks in advance.”

You didn’t say you heard that stuff from Republican politicians, you said you heard it from a guy in the audience at a tea party event. Are you stupid? Thanks in advance.

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:17 pm

@ Nothing: internet tough would be threatening to rip someone apart via font. Please get over yourself. if you are looking for a “my party is better than yours” fight I am NOT the one.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

November 2nd, 2010
4:17 pm

4 more hours!

4 more hours!

4 more hours!

4 more hours!

…………………………………….

Marconi

November 2nd, 2010
4:17 pm

Tea Party:

Concerned about deficits from January 21st, 2009 to November 2nd, 2010.

A Patriotic American

November 2nd, 2010
4:18 pm

Aw, Cynthia, go back to smoking your pot and quit trying to be an economist.

duck feal

November 2nd, 2010
4:18 pm

Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 2nd, 2010
8:34 am
But, dear Granny @ 8:31, we would agree that Bush spent like a democrat.

No, Ragnar, Bush borrowed and spent just like Republicans Regan and Bush Sr. before him.. Where do you think the lion’s share of the national debt came from?

Nothing Is Free

November 2nd, 2010
4:19 pm

EMMA

Please learn the terms. It keeps the politicians from making you look like a fool.

Granted, Clinton with a republican congress lowered the deficit, but we were waaaaaaay far from being in the black.

Go here: http :// upload. wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/US_Federal_Debt_as_Percent_of_GDP_by_President.jpg

Take out the spaces.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

November 2nd, 2010
4:19 pm

Marconi
November 2nd, 2010
4:17 pm

Democrats = what deficit?

Libby

November 2nd, 2010
4:20 pm

Well duh – BO would veto anything they come up with!

NoShamSam

November 2nd, 2010
4:22 pm

It’s a historical fact that whenever there are large tax cuts massive amounts of income is generated for the government because the people pay less taxes = more spending money = more government revenues. Combine this with freezing social security, medicare and medicaid and budget cuts for all other programs (say 10%) for 5 years and both the deficit and national debt can be reduced.

Texas tea

November 2nd, 2010
4:22 pm

Selective Amnesia,

People are finally waking up. Everything has come crashing down on American citizens, and we all want something better. This country has entitled itself to nothing but success and no failures, and now that we’re failing, there is time for a change. Yeah, unfortunate that it has taken a complete wipeout of said economic markets, but it’s better to catch it now and want to change, instead of driving it straight into the ground and have nothing to build back. The Democrats haven’t done anything to help their cause or our cause since being in power. Argue it all you want, but the public has voiced their displeasure towards the current administration and the job they have done, or lack there of..

redneckbluedog

November 2nd, 2010
4:23 pm

Of course they’re not…all this election was about was sour grapes over 2008. Conservatives aren’t going to do anything they didn’t do from 2000-2008…but at least now, the anger will be out of their systems and we can move on to clear thought, and the American shift to the left will continue…2008 changed the game…large corporations and wealthy plutocrats are on their way out; they can go to China or to hell or wherever…small business, start ups, and the middle class are on their way in…!!! That is the only way forward in this economy…

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:23 pm

So wait a minute, I criticize the rethuglicans and I’m accused of hating whites, which is HILARIOUS all things considered. Criticize the Dems, and you’re a racist. Seems as though BOTH sides like playing up the race card

Chris D.

November 2nd, 2010
4:25 pm

Ms Tucker, I am not clear on whether you are saying the Repubs can NOT shrink the yearly budget deficit OR that they can not shrink the National Debt to wholly different things….

duck feal

November 2nd, 2010
4:25 pm

Scam: With taxes very low right now, with Bush’s still in effect and the stimulus tax cuts in effect, where are these massive ammounts of government revenues of which you speak?

redneckbluedog

November 2nd, 2010
4:25 pm

PS…tax cuts aren’t going to do it this time around…there’s no way to pay for them…like I say…kick the corporations and the plutocrats to the curb and we’ll be better off without them…they are good for nothing…nobody needs them…all they do is lay off people and ship jobs overseas…the government, small business, and the American people are all this country needs…

Nothing Is Free

November 2nd, 2010
4:26 pm

redneckbluedog

So you think that small business is going to solve our energy, manufacturing and transportation problems? Little companies going to produce airplanes, trains, cars, ships. etc.?

Liberal land is a strange place.

Harry Callahan

November 2nd, 2010
4:26 pm

No, selective Amnesia, only your side plays the race card. You asserted that Clarence Thomas hates black people. You were asked by several here for proof. You have yet to deliver.

Harry Callahan

November 2nd, 2010
4:28 pm

redneckbluedog

November 2nd, 2010
4:25 pm

“…like I say…kick the corporations and the plutocrats to the curb and we’ll be better off without them…they are good for nothing…nobody needs them…all they do is lay off people and ship jobs overseas…”

Congratulations…dumbest post of the day!!!

Kamchak's gerbil

November 2nd, 2010
4:29 pm

redneckbluedog – did you just get laid off your job for a sh???y performance?

Scarecrow

November 2nd, 2010
4:30 pm

Tommy Maddox you are outta’ your mind — Our President would be a “dumb broad” — You need to ask Jesus for wisdom and understanding!!!

Rafe Hollister

November 2nd, 2010
4:30 pm

Bush was a piker in his spending compared to Barry. Barry has added more to the debt in two years than Bush did in 8 years.

Anyone else get a chuckle about the Bush Tax cuts for the wealthy we heard about for almost 8 years. Now Obama wants to extend them for 80 percent, who are poor and middle class. I thought only the wealthy benefited, at least that is what Sin-thee kept telling us. The figures I saw said over 80% of the actual money went to the poor and middle class. I thought rich folk got it all.

I just can’t believe the Dems would lie to us and say only the wealthy benefitted! Could it be that politicians and their supportive press are dishonest, goodness gracious!

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

November 2nd, 2010
4:32 pm

I’m telling you, you just can’t make this shlt up….

Obama backtracks on calling Americans ‘enemies’…

Biden rally draws 200 people in DE…

Dems in Bunker: No Public Events, Watch Parties for Obama, Pelosi…

POLL: Pelosi viewed favorably by 8% of independents…

REPORT: Casino Bosses Put Squeeze on Employees to Vote in Pro-Reid Effort…

Dems outspend GOP in House races…

Obama hits hip-hop radio, warns agenda ‘at risk’…

REPORT: US to spend $200 million per day on Obama’s Mumbai visit…

Coons Camp Expresses Turnout Worries in Delaware…

CHER RIPS PALIN: ‘A dumb woman is a dumb woman’…

CHer?……………BAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Scarecrow

November 2nd, 2010
4:32 pm

Four more hours!!! — If you are so unhappy — why don’t you “burn” your medicare card!!!!

Chris D.

November 2nd, 2010
4:32 pm

Oh and what was paid back from TARP by some banks(with interest) has been spent twice over again with AIG, GM, Chrysler, etc….No MONEY THERE!

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

November 2nd, 2010
4:33 pm

“Will Obama Face Left-Wing Primary Opponent? ”

Well, Carter had to deal with Ted Kennedy……….

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

November 2nd, 2010
4:34 pm

Scarecrow
November 2nd, 2010
4:32 pm

I’m not on medicare……..NEXT…..

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:34 pm

“You didn’t say you heard that stuff from Republican politicians, you said you heard it from a guy in the audience at a tea party event. Are you stupid? Thanks in advance.”

Fine, the new black panthers are idiots much like the “taking our country back,” gun-toting rebels. What the new black panthers have to do with ANY of this is beyond me, but I have done my due diligence and entertained a simpleton for the day. Now scram…

Sid Farcas

November 2nd, 2010
4:36 pm

All we want to shrink is the amount of democrats in power. Start at the tail and work towards the head. 2012, you are up!
By the way, I think it is funny how the call for Hildabeast is already coming from some corners of the dem party. Ahh yes, the next two years for dems is going to be interesting. Obama or Hillary? What shall we do?

wolfman

November 2nd, 2010
4:36 pm

Thank you, Cynthia “spread the wealth” Tucker…

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:38 pm

“No, selective Amnesia, only your side plays the race card. ”

What exactly is “my side” since you know so much?

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

November 2nd, 2010
4:39 pm

The tea partiers are dumb and dangerous? Let’s look at some of the mainstream participants in last weekend’s “Sanity” comedy show….

“Signs at Stewart/Colbert rally show Republicans with Hitler mustaches…”

“Rally Sign: ‘I masturbate to Christine O’Donnell’…”

“Comedians vowed no politics at rally; DNC recruits volunteers…”

“Organizers seek to ’strictly prohibit filming’ – on National Mall?”

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:40 pm

@ Harry and the “several others” who took the Clarence Thomas thing seriously: google ‘Uncle Ruckus’.

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:42 pm

I slam the Dems and the Republicans pretty equally. Why do the repukes think they are above reproach? Everyone who disagrees with you is not a liberal just as all of you aren’t racist. But keep up the good fight, idiots.

Harry Callahan

November 2nd, 2010
4:43 pm

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:34 pm

“Now scram…”

LOL…I’m supposed to be intimidated by your black belt I guess? Because surely you jest if you think what passes for your “intellect” scares anyone. Now go on back to your tatoo parlor down in little five points.

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:44 pm

“My party is better than yours! We win! We’re back in power again! Haaaa! *sticks tongue out* take THAT! Nanananana!”

Partisanship will surely destroy America.

Johns Creek White Boy

November 2nd, 2010
4:44 pm

Cynthia……I have a fantasy of you and Nancy Pelosi in a hot tub together with me.

Tyrone Jackson

November 2nd, 2010
4:45 pm

Obama is my Black Prezidents!!!!!

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

November 2nd, 2010
4:45 pm

Selective Amnesia
November 2nd, 2010
4:44 pm

You mean like when Obama said “we won”? Well then, I agree.

Harry Callahan

November 2nd, 2010
4:45 pm

Selective Amnesia, do you play for the Falcons? Because you can backpeddle faster than any defensive back I ever saw…

I read your links

November 2nd, 2010
4:46 pm

Cynthia, fancy that you did not mention that Fox’ conclusion was based on a regression analysis scenario in which he didn’t account for 200 Billion in TARP spending which skewed his gov’t spending numbers by 400 Billion. Sheesh, do you think we are this stupid that we don’t read your links? You are becoming too easy to discredit, but we still enjoy the game.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

November 2nd, 2010
4:46 pm

Johns Creek White Boy
November 2nd, 2010
4:44 pm

If that’s your fantasy then I’d hate to see what your nightmares look like.

A dad

November 2nd, 2010
4:46 pm

Selective A – I just yakked. Thanks a lot….

Harry Callahan

November 2nd, 2010
4:47 pm

The Leg Lamp is a “major award”, much like Cynthia Tucker’s Pulitzer and Obama’s Nobel.

November 2nd, 2010
4:45 pm

“You mean like when Obama said “we won”? Well then, I agree.”

…or when Obama said Republicans could get in the back of the bus?

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:48 pm

Harry is clearly a psychic; he is omniscient. Someone get this guy an 8-ball.

Harry Callahan

November 2nd, 2010
4:49 pm

Sid Farcas

November 2nd, 2010
4:36 pm

“By the way, I think it is funny how the call for Hildabeast is already coming from some corners of the dem party. Ahh yes, the next two years for dems is going to be interesting. Obama or Hillary? What shall we do?”

I think the perfect ticket for Democrats in 2012 would be Chris Matthews and Joy Behar.

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:50 pm

Red vs. Blue, which GANG will prevail? Who will have bragging rights for the next couple of years?

A dad

November 2nd, 2010
4:52 pm

How about we do away with the IRS and enact a national sales tax. That way, everyone, legal or illegal, rich or poor, black or white, pays their respective share. But, to lessen the impact on individuals and families with minimal incomes, devise a cut off point and then at year’s end, refund a percentage or set amount ot offset the national sales tax. If those evil rich buy yatchs and JetStreams and Maseratis, etc., they’ll pay the identical tax rate to someone who buys a Focus.
Nah, too simpy, and not enough opportunity for our beloved politicians from both party’s to skim off the funds to protect their pork.
If y’all haven’t realized that we get the shaft regardless of which party is in power, then I fell for you. Me, I’d prefer to keep more of my hard-earned spoils, and not “spread the wealth.” If I did it, believe me, you can too if you work as hard as I did.

Harry Callahan

November 2nd, 2010
4:52 pm

Cynthia’s prediction: Republicans won’t shrink the deficit.

Harry’s prediction; Cynthia will mysteriously be off-line tomorrow.

Brittanicus

November 2nd, 2010
4:54 pm

WE MUST REMOVE THE POLITICIANS, WHO ARE PANDERING TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT INVASION

Even the Tea Party will also be held accountable, as will those lawmakers already in Washington. That is the promise of the Tea Party to the American people. A new vision for this country is at hand, that will scrub clean the corruption in Washington, deep six the Liberal extremists, and stem the unfavorable tide of special interests groups that have crippled the people’s interests. Hopefully this will eliminate the Tax and spend mountainous problem, which is already out-of-control with revised 16 Trillion US dollar deficit. More balanced free trade agreements and a revised Health Care package, that doesn’t bankrupt America. ATTENTION: Watch for irregularities at the Polling places and be observant of voter fraud with absentee ballots. LARGE POPULATION OF NON CITIZENS WHO VOTE COULD COMPROMISE ANY CLOSE RUN RACE. HAVING ALREADY VIOLATED THE LAW, FOREIGN NATIONALS HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE. CALIFORNIA, NEVADA AND OTHER BORDER STATES MUST BE CAREFULLY SCRUTINIZED.

Remember! That if you are for the State of Arizona rigid enforcement of Immigration law which includes SB1070, it would be extremely foolhardy to vote back any Liberal-Democrat to the House or Senate, as they can do much damage to our wilting economy. Senator Harry Reid of Nevada has already promised to attach The Dream Act, to any new Amnesty. Senator Barbara Boxer is of the same mind, that the 12 to 20 million illegal aliens should be rewarded even though they broke the law. America has become a welfare entitlement landing place for the destitute of the world. Yet the American people are treated with indifference and rejected for their economic needs? The thought of adding another 2.6 Trillion dollars (Heritage Foundation estimate) to our already diminished reservoir of public services for the use of illegal aliens, is absolutely irrational. Casino head’s have likely intimidated their staff to vote for Harry Reid, as the entertainment and service industries are well supplied with illegal workers. The thought passed through my mind, that Tea Party members should boycott Harrah and other Casino’s?

The problem is, it’s a civil infraction and doesn’t become a serious offense, until you reenter the United States after being deported? It up to the new Congress and specifically TEA PARTY members to uphold the 1986 immigration law, and perhaps make it a felony like other countries, including Mexico. None of the Incumbents want to open the proverbial can of worms, as they are all Pro-Amnesty. It would be like Icarus flying into the sun, with wax wings.No Liberal has any gonads to tell the truth of their so-called progressive ideology. Even Gubnatorial Jerry Brown has stayed silent, about what to do about the principle Sanctuary Cities of San Francisco and Los Angeles, as both have been infiltrated by Liberal progressives, who want no border and the free flow of cheap labor. How can any Politician really even think of allowing a run on the border should there be another Amnesty, when millions and millions of Americans have no job? The TEA PARTY must turn their attention to stopping the drain of jobs to foreign lands, as our manufacturing base is been obliterated by unfair competition from mainly China. We must bring jobs home and stop patronizing Mexico, as hundreds of companies have product bases there and selling them back to America. We cannot go on like this as the US dollar, will soon be worth less than other developed nations. We must rid ourselves of the cheap, shoddy goods from China and start buying made in the USA again.

Former president Bill Clinton effort for Jerry Brown, will not stop the avalanche of NEW TEA PARTY members from changing their agenda. Jerry Brown is likely to win so will be owing a lot of favors to Union, who packed his campaign war chest. His Sanctuary city policies will destroy his Liberal plans, that has drawn massive criminal aliens into the State in the form of illegal gang members who have slaughtered innocent citizens. Possible new Lieutenant Governor’s Gavin Newsom, another hard core liberal should he win, will also bring with him the blemish of illegal alien murders, rapes, assaults to his new position and his neglect to enforce immigration laws in San Francisco. Reid’s Nevada has the highest unemployment nationwide, and Boxers California have some of the highest jobless rates in the nation. The Tea Party and other proponents will not open the border gates, and will use a composite of the new state of the art E-Verify, to start dislodging illegal workers.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

November 2nd, 2010
4:55 pm

Open ended question to the left…

The dems have been in control of Congress for 4 years, but it wasn’t “enough time” to fix the damage. If the reps take over the house in tonight’s election, will it be okay in 2 short years to say they didn’t have “enough time” to fix the problems that linger today?

Harry Callahan

November 2nd, 2010
4:57 pm

Dig this headline over at CNN online right now…

“Democrats privately admit House loss looks likely”

LOL…in related news, Al Gore concedes his chances to win the presidential election in 2000 are “not good at this point.”

Rafe Hollister

November 2nd, 2010
4:57 pm

Harry,

You are right, I see a vacation in the Bahamas for Sinthee, Nancy, and Harry.

Ragnar Danneskjöld

November 2nd, 2010
4:58 pm

Dear What @ 3:29, 2009 National Defense expenditures totaled $661,049,000.
2009 total on budget federal expenditures totaled $3,000,665,000 plus an additional $517,016,000 off budget (mostly socsec). Not that it really matters to you.

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
4:58 pm

@ Leg: “You mean like when Obama said “we won”? Well then, I agree.”

Sure! Why not? Please don’t confuse my disdain for the repukes with admiration for the dummycrats. I know it’s hard for some of your ilk to decipher when someone genuinely has disdain for BOTH parties without attaching automatic liberalism to it. The repukes just happen to be the topic of discussion here…

Johnny Fontane

November 2nd, 2010
4:59 pm

Cynthia be need’n her some purple drank.

flagger

November 2nd, 2010
5:00 pm

tell it to cnn cynthia or maybe msnbc that way ure preaching to the choir…
government spending is kinda like a monkey peeing in a cash register..
pretty soon it runs into money, that we don’t have. we are broke, broke, bankrupt,
busted, no more moolah. is that so hard to understand?

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

November 2nd, 2010
5:02 pm

Selective Amnesia
November 2nd, 2010
4:58 pm

Which “repuke” actually said “we won” as did Obama?

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
5:03 pm

“The dems have been in control of Congress for 4 years, but it wasn’t “enough time” to fix the damage. If the reps take over the house in tonight’s election, will it be okay in 2 short years to say they didn’t have “enough time” to fix the problems that linger today?”

How long did it take to create the damage, or was it ongoing? How long does it take to put special interests aside and at least ACT like you work for the PEOPLE, and not the other way around? Serious question for the left AND right since both can and have been bought by special interests…

Creamy Crack

November 2nd, 2010
5:05 pm

Tax creamy crack!

Harry Callahan

November 2nd, 2010
5:08 pm

“The sitting president of the United States, especially one who once cultivated such an aura of dignity, does not go on a comedy show to be called “dude” or make small talk with Ryan Seacrest unless he knows that something very large and awful is heading his way.”

“Power Play doesn’t recall Ronald Reagan making an appearance with Casey Kasem in 1982, so it’s safe to say that Team Obama has abandoned the long-cherished hope”

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
5:09 pm

“Which “repuke” actually said “we won” as did Obama?”

@ leg-What do you mean “as did Obama”? Are you asking me to speak on perception, knowing that it is impossible? Did you perceive his “we” to mean: America? The dummycrats? The unaffiliated who were fed up with Bush? BLACK PEOPLE?

Take your pick of repukes, as they have been claiming victory for weeks.

Sid Farcas

November 2nd, 2010
5:09 pm

Harry Callahan

November 2nd, 2010
4:49 pm
Sid Farcas

November 2nd, 2010
4:36 pm

“By the way, I think it is funny how the call for Hildabeast is already coming from some corners of the dem party. Ahh yes, the next two years for dems is going to be interesting. Obama or Hillary? What shall we do?”

I think the perfect ticket for Democrats in 2012 would be Chris Matthews and Joy Behar.

Harry, that would be a great representation of their core base. Good call.

JP

November 2nd, 2010
5:10 pm

I am as Dem as they come, but if the Rs win back Congress, I am willing to see what they come up with before dismissing out of hand. I think each party has some good ideas.

Ben The Independent

November 2nd, 2010
5:12 pm

Get your Harvard Super Dude to tell ya why the tax receipts are down. He may agree with ya that the left wing media caused the this problem. This tax receipts issue is something that the Main-Stream right wing media should address.

HBGDawg

November 2nd, 2010
5:12 pm

You are such a bleeding heart liberal. You unashamedly don’t even try to be unbiased.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

November 2nd, 2010
5:12 pm

Selective Amnesia
November 2nd, 2010
5:09 pm

A lot of rhetoric but no answer I see. Repukes? Is that the best you’ve got?

Anyway, the “we won” I was referring to was when Obama addressed the Republican Congressmen when they were meeting to try to get a bipartisan effort in place. Just how will the libs perceive a “we won” comment from Boehner is he’s elected Speaker?

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
5:15 pm

“WE MUST REMOVE THE POLITICIANS, WHO ARE PANDERING TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT INVASION”

You hold your incumbents accountable once they are elected. Since this seems to be a repuke issue, dare I ask why the only time immigration reform is mentioned is when a repuke is NOT in office? We eagerly awaited Regan, Bush 1, and Bush 2 to do something about it. NOTHING. What gives?

john galt

November 2nd, 2010
5:20 pm

Cyndi,

Good to see that you aren’t getting your facts from Wikipedia (at least this time). But let’s set the record straight:

1. The healthcare bill is already surpassing the CBO’s cost estimates, and it’s barely even started to take effect. I guess we really DID need to pass it to learn what is in it.
2. Obama has had two years to reduce wasteful spending and he has not (and how does your next sentence in the article – “in fact, one-third of the stimulus…” – have anything to do with this point of yours?
3. Red or Blue, this government needs to be replaced.

As to your final salvo on tax cuts, we need to stimulate this economy by squaring the budget deficit NOW. The total federal debt, taking all unfunded liabilities into account, is above $100 TRILLION. Add the state and local liabilities to this, and there is no way we can survive unless we take a serious cut at spending.

Tax increases I can live with, but only if we balance the budget and reduce waste. Now, come up with a plan that does that and I’ll vote for a darn Martian. I’d even vote for – gulp – you.

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
5:22 pm

@ leg, what Republican congressman? I don’t sit around listening to talk radio/watching opinion shows all day. I have a life. This isn’t the same “republican congressman” (with no name, but I’m sure you’ll google him) who Obama has denied having a closed door meeting with, is it? I am certainly humored by the notion of a republican trying to get a bipartisan effort in place, though. THOROUGHLY amused. And I can’t speak for “libs” since I am not one. Sorry…

I can think of a million other vulgar names to call the repukes but that is against blog rules and would require our moderator to remove the post.

Tundra Dude

November 2nd, 2010
5:23 pm

Imo, much ado about nothing. Prof Quigley must be smiling in his grave.

Carroll Quigley wrote in his book Tragedy and Hope:

“The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers…Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can “throw the rascals out” at any election without leading to any profound or extreme shifts in policy.”

~Professor of History at Georgetown University, member of the Council on Foreign Relations, mentor to Bill Clinton (1910-1977)

Bobby

November 2nd, 2010
5:24 pm

Yes We Can turned into Oh No He Didn’t. Ms. Tucker I refused to read this article because I made the mistake of reading one of yours in the past. I can already tell its full of unrelated hyperbole and a total lack of truth or knowledge on what makes this country run well – I’ll give you a hint – it doesn’t involve anything the dems think are important so just move along now – there is nothing to see here.

Michael

November 2nd, 2010
5:24 pm

You are right Cynthia. The R’s have no plans to reduce the size of government; they are all talk. Look at what happened during the 1994 Republican wave with their Contract. One of their goals of the 1996 Republican platform was to abolish the Department of Education. At least at that time the Education department did not have its tentacles at the local and state level like it does now. It was a young department and it was possible to abolish it. Give the Rs just five short years and Bush supported and passed the House and Senate (both R majorities) No Child Left Behind. This greatly expanded the Department of Education to the point there is no chance to abolishing it now.
The same thing will happen with health care. Give the Republicans time, a couple of election cycles, and they will expand what is known now as ObamaCare. In fact, there is an equal probability that the Rs will usher in a single payer (socialized health care). The Rs take it slow while the Ds like to do the same in one election cycle.

Bobby

November 2nd, 2010
5:27 pm

Where is GA Coach Grantham at when you need him – I’d like to choke this windbag of a reporter – what a clueless individual. Must be a liberal.

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
5:27 pm

“I am as Dem as they come, but if the Rs win back Congress, I am willing to see what they come up with before dismissing out of hand. I think each party has some good ideas.”

What planet did you just arrive from? On what planet do people win votes without presenting “what they come up with” to the people first? What “good ideas” have come from either party in the last four years? Don’t answer the last one, I prematurely cringe at the answer. You are “as dem as they come” after all.

Dem Lies

November 2nd, 2010
5:28 pm

Cynthia – a prediction well rather a fact. You will be wrong AGAIN! Shrink, heck at the rate the King Obama is spending our money just stopping the deficit spending will be a plus!

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
5:29 pm

You short sighted fools need to understand that it was CHENEY, who famously stated “deficits don’t matter”. He was not part of the Gingrich 94 Contract with America. Cheney will not be involve in the republican party again, thank the lord above. Both repub administrations associated with Cheney, Reagan & Bush 2 both ran up huge deficits. That will not happen again. We are back again to Gingrich fiscal conservativism. Get ready to slash the federal budget.

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
5:30 pm

@ Bobby. Thanks for proving my point. Didn’t bother to read it, yet your mind is already made up. Typical. There really is nothing left to see here, good day folks…

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
5:31 pm

regarding the “take back” comment – it is not against Obama’s skin color, the content of his political character – the man was rated as one of the liberalist leaning in the SEnate, he just trended toward the middle during the campaign. Obummer also has a big tendency to throw friends & blood relatives under the nearest bus. so please, stop using the skin color as a crutch.

calvinb

November 2nd, 2010
5:32 pm

When are you dumbazzes going to admit that most of the spending that the Obama admin did was to save the economy from falling into a deep depression. This is compared to the unnecessary crazy spending done by the Bush Admin, designed to attack a nation that hadn’t done anything to the U.S. other than talk siitt!! This is how you look at facts. Not the nonsense you all have been expousing. Keep messing up the economny and nobody will be able to save it. Pres. Obama’s spending ran up the debt and averted a deep depression. Big Business was supposed to step in and do their part, but guess what they did. They held the ball and ran out the clock. That is the way you grow the economy dummy. All genuises!!!

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

November 2nd, 2010
5:32 pm

Selective Amnesia
November 2nd, 2010
5:22 pm

“I don’t sit around listening to talk radio/watching opinion shows all day. I have a life.”

Riiiight. But you blog on here for hours.

No need for me to google it. I said “Congressmen”, the plural form, and you erroneously deduced that I said “Congressman), the singular form. I’m not surprised you missed that point. I actually watched the news that night. Network news, believe it or not. John McCain, Lamar Alexander and John Boehner were just a few of the republicans in attendance.

Sid Farcas

November 2nd, 2010
5:33 pm

SELECTIVE AMNESIA HAS LEFT THE BUILDING FOLKS! Probably calling the suicide hotline as I post. Poor soul.

Ken R

November 2nd, 2010
5:33 pm

Rightwing communications machine, DUH! in case you were born last night, most of the comnication machines are all Liberal, including you.

Do you really think that your liberal readers are dumb enough to believe that? I guess you do or you wouldn’t have written something so stupid.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

November 2nd, 2010
5:34 pm

calvinb
November 2nd, 2010
5:32 pm

You must have missed Sen. Reid’s pronouncement. HE was the one who saved us from the depression. :roll:

Sid Farcas

November 2nd, 2010
5:35 pm

calvinb

November 2nd, 2010
5:32 pm

Yeah calvin, that dog don’t hunt no more. Time for a new spin. I know, it was Reagan’s fault. What the hell, he’s dead and can’t defend himself. A liberal’s favorite type of target.

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
5:35 pm

Paddy O, but..but I thought the Tea Party mantra of “taking back our country” had nothing to do with Obama?

A clueless and inconsistent bunch, you are. Smh…

Independent minds

November 2nd, 2010
5:36 pm

All rubbish Cynthia, but what’s new? If only the AJC allowed us to vote CT out of a job today, the day would be grand! Face it- the gig is up. This country woke up to the destructive sham that the liberal machine has been shoving down our throats for 2 years, and it has been soundly rejected! Only two more years til we correct the really big mistake from 08. Signed, registered independent.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

November 2nd, 2010
5:38 pm

Selective Amnesia
November 2nd, 2010
5:35 pm

Sort of like this election is “NOT about Obama”? BWWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

ODDOWL

November 2nd, 2010
5:39 pm

The Bush/Cheney debt is $11 trillion. The Bush/Cheney deficit is $1.3 trillion a year. The Obama Democrat debt is $3 trillion. The Obama Democrat deficit is $300 billion a year. The deficit today is lower than the Bush/Cheney Regime’s 2008 projections for the year 2010. The Democrats cut 25 different taxes on the middle class over the last two years. The 5% cut in the Fed. income tax on middle class workers increase their net income by about $6000 a year. That $6000 a year pay increase will probably be the largest raise these workers ever received. All the legislation passed and signed into law were paid for, except for the stimulus bill. The TARP bailout saved the banks and prevented a depression. TARP has produced enormous profits for the Feds, plus the banks have paid most of the money back. The auto industry bailout is a roaring success. The auto industry is raking in record profits and have repaid the loans. The Feds made a healthy profit from the shares of stock it held as collateral. The cash for clunkers program was great for the auto industry and the consumers. The Democrats legislative agenda over the last two years has been a rip roaring success. Probably the most energetic in the history of the country. If the Repuklicans take control of the House, they will go back to the Bush/Cheney agenda. The results of their actions will produce a prolong depression. The richest 10% will get richer and the other 90% will get poorer. Who’s at fault ??? The Voters.

Black Boortz

November 2nd, 2010
5:41 pm

“Republicans won’t shrink the deficit”

But Democrats will DEFINITELY grow it!!

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

November 2nd, 2010
5:41 pm

So this is how he brings a new tone to America.

“WASHINGTON (AP) – Even with voting already under way, President Barack Obama furiously worked the phones to urban-format radio stations Tuesday, arguing that his agenda would be “all at risk” if Republicans trampled Democrats.”

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010
5:41 pm

@ leg: HOURS? Do you log my time? Lmao, my first post was about an hour ago, and now I’m leaving to do productive things, much to Sid’s chagrin. I’ll see your “we won” and raise you a “I’m the decider.” Both parties SUCK, have a nice night.

RGB

November 2nd, 2010
5:42 pm

I wonder if Ms. Tucker believes that deficit reduction should even be a goal.

Certainly His Barackness doesn’t.

One might say he doesn’t speak with a fiscally responsible dialect–unless he wants to.

Sid Farcas

November 2nd, 2010
5:43 pm

ODDOWL

November 2nd, 2010
5:39 pm

And another libtard takes center stage to show his/hers ignorance. Damn this election is pissing them off.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

November 2nd, 2010
5:44 pm

Selective Amnesia
November 2nd, 2010
5:41 pm

“..have a nice night.”

Yessirree, I do believe the results from tonight’s election will allow me to do so.

Sid Farcas

November 2nd, 2010
5:44 pm

Selective Amnesia

November 2nd, 2010

Hey, I thought you left and took your ball home?

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
5:47 pm

selective – you have some really large memory black holes – immigration law was attempted – which McCain & Bush supported – lucky it was defeated by the repub majority at the time.

Black Boortz

November 2nd, 2010
5:49 pm

“Because Republicans won’t do much to rein in spending.”

Of COURSE they won’t! Obama and the Dems made ONE GOOD gamble with that health care bill: Once the American public gets an entitlement, it’s virtually IMPOSSIBLE to take it away. There’s no way they’ll be able to curb spending in the areas of the budget that WOULD make a difference: ENTITLEMENT SPENDING! You try telling a senior citizen that they aren’t getting their Social Security; you try telling one of those “ghetto grandmas” (Mr. Deal’s words, not mine) that they won’t get their Medicaid coverage for the many kids they can’t afford to keep; try telling one of those seniors that hollered against government-run health care that their Medicare coverage will be cut. Yeah, good luck. The biggest problem we have is learning how to candy away from the child.

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

November 2nd, 2010
5:50 pm

My final predictions

Reps take the House but not by the huge numbers I’m reading about today.

Dems keep control of the Senate by 1 or 2 seats.

Deal wins without a runoff.

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
5:57 pm

A vote for Deal is vote for corruption and another 4 years of Elmer Fudd type policies. However, i believe the repubs will take at least 50 seats, and it seems Reid will lose. If anyone here has watched Mayer, you know that Christine ODonnell was died in the wool nut case, but darn good looking – a lot like Sarah Palin – although Palin is a true believer, and far more savvy than liberals give her credit for. If the repubs win the Senate, by Valentines Day, they better have a motion passed to repeal Obummer care. If the dems reject the Repubs efforts, the repubs have still delivered on their promise to shrink government – it is just the dems & Obutthead that is being obstructionist.

TheTruthHurts

November 2nd, 2010
5:58 pm

THE DEMS ARE ABOUT TO BE DESTROYED..and you have CT whining and crying like the Liberal Loser She is..LOL I LOVE IT>>>HEY CT DONT JUMP OF A BUILDING LATER>>>>LOL

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
5:58 pm

Everyone needs to realize that we must enact a wage equalization tariff, repeal NAFTA & shrink the Navy. That will be a start to balancing the budget. Get your budget slashing knives ready!

Sid Farcas

November 2nd, 2010
6:00 pm

Corruption or liberal values? Hmmmm….. WE WANT COORRUPTION! WE WANT CORRUPTION! CORRUPTION RULES MAN!

The Leg Lamp is a "major award", much like Cynthia Tucker's Pulitzer and Obama's Nobel.

November 2nd, 2010
6:05 pm

I don’t trust exit polls, but ……

Arkansas: Boozman (R) defeats Lincoln (D)
Ohio: Portman (R) defeats Fisher (D)
North Dakota: Hoeven (R) defeats Potter (D)
Wisconsin: Johnson (R) defeats Feingold (D)

Sid Farcas

November 2nd, 2010
6:11 pm

Tonight leg lamp, I won’t trust anything but the final word. And FNC will be the only network I watch. Unless it is a bloodbath and then I will put on msnbc and watch the mass suicide.

Sid Farcas

November 2nd, 2010
6:12 pm

Black Boortz

November 2nd, 2010
5:49 pm

Sometimes BB you just have to piss off the children and do what’s right for them.

TnGelding

November 2nd, 2010
6:14 pm

They’ll just spend on different thngs. Taxes are already too low to fund the government we have. With revenue dropping so dramatically, I’d initiate a check for compliance. The IRS needs to hire more agents. They would pay for themselves 100 fold. Of course we need to eliminate the IRS all together with a simpler tax code.

TnGelding

November 2nd, 2010
6:14 pm

…but let’s count the votes first.

Jimmy Carter

November 2nd, 2010
6:15 pm

To me this is not rocket science. 9 years ago, the Bush administration cut off a huge revenue source for our government via the Bush Tax cuts of 2001. In the meanwhile, they increased spending a whole lot through the 2 wars we are currently fighting and the Medicare prescription drug benefit program. Any deficit additions by the Obama administration pale by comparison. The huge deficit will go away, but not without letting the Bush tax cuts expire and ending these 2 hugely unpopular and fiscally irresponsible wars.
I’d be willing to bet the tax cuts may expire; on Obama’s watch so the republicans can shrilly shout, “we wanted to continue them, but Obama did not”. And in 2 years when the deficit starts to shrink they will try to take credit for that as well.

Blue

November 2nd, 2010
6:16 pm

“tax cut for rich Americans”. Way to go with the playbook, CT. For the last time…who pays the majority of the income tax?? I agree with the need to cut spending, and Bush was HORRIBLE at that aspect…but you go ahead and think that taxing more on the people that are already paying the majority of the taxes and giving it to others is going to fix things. We’ll take our ball and go home…

And yet...here you are

November 2nd, 2010
6:19 pm

Funny how a “liberal media” has been predicting republican victory for weeks.

TnGelding

November 2nd, 2010
6:26 pm

Blue

November 2nd, 2010
6:16 pm

Are we borrowing more than they’re paying? We all need to pitch in our fair share. Making the cuts permanent would create another $3 trillion in debt over 10 years. But eliminating the estate tax would produce revenue for all eternity instead of a one time shot. Spending cuts have to be done gradually. Getting the troops home form Iraq, Afghanistan and the rest of the world would be the number one priority in that regard.

Sid Farcas

November 2nd, 2010
6:29 pm

Jimmy Carter

November 2nd, 2010
6:15 pm

Jimmy, you were a dope in 1976 and a terrible president and leader. You keep the tax cuts and cut spending…NOW. It can be done and better be done quicly.

Sid Farcas

November 2nd, 2010
6:30 pm

Kere is my “k” for quickly.

Teddy

November 2nd, 2010
6:42 pm

Two years from now I hope you find yourself wrong and in a new career as being a “journalist” is not your thing.

Willie Lynch

November 2nd, 2010
7:11 pm

Wow! The Teabaggers have been forgotten about already.

RGB

November 2nd, 2010
7:30 pm

“Senator Bob Menendez (D-NJ), Chairman of the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee, says the DSCC is already taking legal action in some areas across the country.”

Yep, those classy Democrats are at it again. If they can’t win at the (stuffed) ballot box, they try to win by suing somebody.

And some Georgians wondered why we didn’t want a trial lawyer for our governor.

Sid Farcas

November 2nd, 2010
7:30 pm

Yo willie, you gonna get tea bagged tonight. maybe not the first time nor the last time.

Sid Farcas

November 2nd, 2010
7:31 pm

RGB

November 2nd, 2010
7:30 pm

Good call RGB, good call.

Bwah hahahhahaha . . .

November 2nd, 2010
7:32 pm

I love it. You are one silly girl Cynthia. Your beliefs have helped put this country on the decline. No longer. America is standing up and saying people like you are wrong.

Sid Farcas

November 2nd, 2010
7:35 pm

Tucker will never admit she was wrong. She is like her President, she will blame Bush. That is what makes it fun to have her around. You need idiots like her to remind us how smart the normal working stiff really is. And the girl won a damn pulitzer!?

Kamchak

November 2nd, 2010
7:43 pm

It’s already been thirteen hours since the polls opened.

Why haven’t they done anything about unemployment

lawdawg

November 2nd, 2010
7:54 pm

Someone please tell me since the Reagan years during which years have the Republicans who have controlled both houses most of those years reduced government spending on a Federal level?

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
8:09 pm

Simpler tax code (income tax): No itemization. Just the following: All income from all sources added together. All citizens over 18 years of age must pay 2.5% of that income as a minimum tax. But, all adults over 18 receive a $25,000 standard deduction, then $8000 per child. Additionally, all citizens exempt 10% of their income. Once they arrive at that “adjusted net income” figure, that is multiplied by .17 – that is your required income tax. However, if the 2.5% on gross income is higher, you must pay that higher assessment. Example: Married couple with 2 kids, gross income is $100,000 – must pay at least $2500 income tax. However, the prcoess results in the following tax burden: minus $58,000 standard deduction ($42,000 balance), $10,000 exemption deduction ($32,000 balance), multiply by .17 leaves a tax bill of $5440. Plus of course all the other tax assessments. However, an 18 year old who earns $5000 in a summer would pay $125 in income tax also – so all adult income earners MUST contribute to the operation of the federal government. Let me know how that affects everyone – it is a very, very simple income tax equation – you could fire at least 50% of current IRS agents.

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
8:09 pm

I would say 94-2000.

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
8:15 pm

also, you must remember the Cheney affect – he likes to run a large deficit so he can enrich his bottom line at halliburton, just like Paulsen at Goldman Sachs.

Kamchak

November 2nd, 2010
8:32 pm

…you must remember…

Why, “must” I do anything you say?

pauly

November 2nd, 2010
8:39 pm

Eat it Cynthia. Get out your calculator and add up all those House districts that are showing up solid RED on the cnn.com map. AMERICANS DISLIKE OBAMAS HEALTHCARE PLAN.

Mr Charlie

November 2nd, 2010
8:55 pm

YESSS. We need to tax the people who earn the money, and give it to those who don’t. What a great idea!!!! We need to motivate people to do nothing!!!! How brilliant!!!!. I understand, you Democrats have it all figured out.

rep

November 2nd, 2010
8:56 pm

Cynthia is so anti-white, it shows so bad!!!!!

Mr Charlie

November 2nd, 2010
8:57 pm

You are right Kammy, you Must not do anything! You MUST not work, but you are entitled to the same lifestyle as those wo do work. Again, you do have the blueprint to utopia. Gawd, you guys are just SO smart, it hurts.

Mr Charlie

November 2nd, 2010
8:59 pm

Because, when we “Must” do someting, we are slaves. So, we “must” not do anything. Go Kammy, you tellem!

Chris Sanchez

November 2nd, 2010
9:02 pm

Ms. Tucker,

There isn’t enough money to fund the budget NOW! One doesn’t need elementary school math to understand that. In fairness, there wasn’t enough coming in to cover spending before the recession began either. Both the revenue side AND spending must be addressed. The GOP doesn’t want to talk about taxes except in the context of cuts and the Democrats don’t want to talk about spending except in terms of increases and more programs.

That elementary school math is why so many voted for candidates who otherwise would not get a second look. A great many of us are sick of of the endless growth of government. Giving money away is not the answer though it sure will buy votes. Tax cuts alone will not return the economy to prosperity though it too will buy votes. Today we have the opportunity to speak.

Your liberal views will not be changed by the outcome and many of us who consider ourselves to be conservative will feel in some way vindicated. Sooner or later we are going to have to agree to disagree on some things and find those things that we can agree on and get some work done for America. In my opinion, sooner is better than later!

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
9:02 pm

kamchak – you have the skin of tissue paper, just sniffing around for something to be offended about – you really are an embarassment to the pioneers of this country. PS: It is generally a figure of speech. enjoying the election returns so far, buddy?

Paddy O

November 2nd, 2010
9:04 pm

see you after the repubs take 55 seats or so. yuk, yuk, yuk.

Lady GayGay

November 2nd, 2010
9:04 pm

THe only thing the Repudlickans will shrink are heads, (what with all the witches, trolls, and ogres in charge of the Party.)

America gitz whats its deserves! I’m ashamed 2b an American again. I’m going to Wyoming, man.

Mr Charlie

November 2nd, 2010
9:04 pm

Pauly, No No No. Obammys plan is great! Just because nobody had read it does not mean it will not be great. You are racist, bigoted and ignorant. Just don’t call me names.

Mr Charlie

November 2nd, 2010
9:06 pm

Wait, are the repubs sweeping the elections? Are the Dems losing. NOOOOO, America is racist.

Lady GayGay

November 2nd, 2010
9:06 pm

I’m happy. It’s too hard to write satire when the democrats are in charge.

I’ve got a backlog of material. Just wait till they get a load a me.

Kamchak

November 2nd, 2010
9:06 pm

PS: It is generally a figure of speech.

Yep.

It’s called an imperative.

Mr Charlie

November 2nd, 2010
9:12 pm

We need Whoppie Goldberg in charge. Those republicans are just too goofy.

Contractor

November 2nd, 2010
9:12 pm

Tuck,

A little information I just received… Just found out your boy Barry is over in India at the moment running up about $200 million a day over there with his 1,000 person outfit he took. Boy is running like a scolded dog and tucking his tail on Election Day. What a patriotic guy. Wish he’d just stay.

Ted Sheckler

November 2nd, 2010
9:13 pm

Republicans rule, Democrats drool. This is just the beginning – in 2 years, Obama will be voted out! There is still hope for America, we just got to keep voting these scumbag Democrats out of office. Liberalism is a disease.

Mr Charlie

November 2nd, 2010
9:21 pm

Largest pickup of seats since 1948. RACIST RACIST RACIST. Keep screaming.

NoBama No More.

November 2nd, 2010
9:23 pm

Nancy Pelosi your FIRED!! Ms Tucker you are dishonest and a disgrace to your chosen profession.

Kamchak

November 2nd, 2010
9:24 pm

Largest pickup of seats since 1948.

Why haven’t they fixed unemployment yet?

Mr Charlie

November 2nd, 2010
9:28 pm

Why? it is Obammys fault.

Mr Charlie

November 2nd, 2010
9:30 pm

Sarah Palin on Fox…I mean, could it be any worse? Hahahaha

Mr Charlie

November 2nd, 2010
9:34 pm

I mean, it is 2010, and Sarah Palin is still relevant? I mean, is there anything that screams failure of the Democrats more than that? Bwaaahahahaa.

Mr Charlie

November 2nd, 2010
9:36 pm

Sarah 2012….

Kamchak

November 2nd, 2010
9:47 pm

Sarah 2012….

Pleaseohpleaseohplease

N.J.

November 3rd, 2010
10:10 am

Of course not Cynthia. For the last 30 years Republicans have run on the slight of hand of cutting taxes while relying on traditional Keynesian deficit spending to keep the economy alive. Where they denied Keynes was by NOT raising taxes to reduce debt after the need for deficit spending is eliminated. Thats part of Keynes too. When you have a national emergency like war or depression, you raise government spending until it is over. Then you reduce government spending, raise taxes to pay off the debt, and when the debt is paid off, you reduce the taxes. Worked beautifully.

But what Republicans are now promising is no different than what Reagan promises. Cut taxes, increase defense, etc.

However within two years Reagan kicked off a wave of deficit spending to stimulate the economy that made FDR look like an ultraconservative. Between 1933 and 1941, FDR managed to create all those National Recovery Act programs and not

N.J.

November 3rd, 2010
10:22 am

Continued. For some reason your page posted my post without my hitting the post button.

For the last 30 years Republicans have distracted Americans by giving tax cuts, claiming the tax cuts were good for the economy, but at the same time MASSIVELY increasing government deficit spending. The tax cuts did nothing for the economy, Republicans knew they would not, so they HAD to go into government spending to do any sort of economic stimulus.

Reagan did 1.5 trillion dollars of deficit spending over 8 years. Bush 41, 3 trillion. Bush 43, 5 trillion.

The effects were mild, largely because the negative effects of their tax cuts (which sucked trillions out of the U.S. economy to be invested overseas) were offset by the stimulus of the deficit spending.

Anyone with a brain can go back fifty years, look at all the economic data and discover a single fact. Republicans are responsible for 84 percent of the increase in the size of government since 1960.

Johnson was the last president before Clinton to hand in a balanced budget.

Carter was the president who cut the most government jobs.

And over 50 years, Republicans have grown the total number of non defense related government jobs by about 330,000. Democrats by 58,000.

Republicans and debt. Every president from WWII until Reagan did NOT add to the national debt. They all inherited the debt from WWII and each president, Democrat or Republican managed to pay down some of that debt. Until Reagan, Out of the current debt 12 trillion is Republican, one trillion Democrat and the rest existed BEFORE REAGAN.

Republicans are making the same promises Reagan did. Tax cuts will HAVE TO BE FINANCED by borrowing.

If Obama LOCKED the Social Security Trust Fund by executive order, Republicans would be in a pretty pickle. They would lose the source for their tax cuts, which will have to be BORROWED.

Income taxes do not even collect enough to pay for total defense obligation. So Republicans are going to have to eliminate all Veterans Benefits to make any savings there.

Why havn’t they fixed unemployment yet.

The better question is “Why has the private sector, with record profits, not started hiring yet”
It’s not the government’s job to MAKE JOBS. That is unless you are for socialism and expect the government to seize the private sector and start hiring in it.

Obama has brought the markets up over 70 percent in 20 months. The private sector is making a huge amount of profit. The government has been denied the stick to reinforce the carrot of making businesses profitable again. That stick is to raise taxes on business if they do not start creating jobs with those profits.