The GOP is now a party of know-nothing flat-earthers

“You are going to lose soooooo badly in November.”

It really seems Tucker and the rest of them are getting desperate. They know what’s coming and trying everything they can to stop.

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Carbon dioxide, a benign, life giving molecule has been miscast by a world wide political movement to be an environmental hazard in what will soon be discovered to be the hoax of the century. This molecule, CO2 is vital to all life on earth. It is exhaled by all living things and even comes from nocturnal emissions by plants. It forms the bubbles in your soda, wine and beer. Standard air has 370 parts per million (PPM) of carbon dioxide of which 93% comes from “natural sources” which are all beyond human control. These sources include decomposition of organic matter, exhaling by living things and volcanic vents, which is by far the greatest atmospheric source. The climate change hoax is based on faulty science from two things. First, hoaxers assume that ice layers give information on temperature like tree rings do with rainfall. Ice cores from Greenland and Antarctica, from thousands of years of deposits, are measured for CO2 content of the air at the time the snow layer was deposited and thickness of the ice layers. The thickness of these snow fall layers is then assumed to be an indication of global temperature. There are numerous errors in this assumption, which have been presented in a more technical analysis, but for now pretend that this evidence is true. The hoaxers then show graphs over time with a near perfect match of CO2 levels and snow thickness and by implication the earth’s temperature. The second bit of “proof” of human caused global warming is the Global Climate Model which is available to all at Wikipedia. By their own admission, this model was developed for SHORT RANGE weather forecasting and we all know how accurate that is. This formula, though not given on this web site, has a hundred parameters each with its own coefficient and exponent. By manipulating these numbers the hoaxers are able to “prove” that an increase of CO2 will raise world temperature.

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Granny,

You dodged the question.

Yes, I am raising kids.

If we set the example, and China and India refuse to follow suit, we will look back on 10% unemployment as the “good old days”

Now, would you care to answer the question?

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The ultimate stupidity is that you think you have any control over nature.

The Earth has been warming and cooling cyclically for the better part of it’s 4.5 billion year existance. Seriously, look it up. It’s amazing, the Earth’s tempurature moves up and down, it hasn’t stayed the same ever. The polarities have changed, the core temp is volitile. Pressures change, etc.
What we should discuss is the political ramifications between String theory and E8…Should not e a problem for such a scientific head such as yourself….LOL!

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Pat… Childish….why dont you prove your claim. And by the way, also prove your scientific credentials.

Here’s something for you to drag your knuckles across….Global Climate Change Indicators
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
National Climatic Data Center

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And since Nothing but a Bully will whine and demonstrate continued ignorance rather than read, let me add this from NOAA:

How do we know humans are the primary cause of the warming?

A large body of evidence supports the conclusion that human activity is the primary driver of recent warming. This evidence has accumulated over several decades, and from hundreds of studies. The first line of evidence is our basic physical understanding of how greenhouse gases trap heat, how the climate system responds to increases in greenhouse gases, and how other human and natural factors influence climate. The second line of evidence is from indirect estimates of climate changes over the last 1,000 to 2,000 years. These estimates are often obtained from living things and their remains (like tree rings and corals) which provide a natural archive of climate variations. These indicators show that the recent temperature rise is clearly unusual in at least the last 1,000 years. The third line of evidence is based on comparisons of actual climate with computer models of how we expect climate to behave under certain human influences. For example, when climate models are run with historical increases in greenhouse gases, they show gradual warming of the Earth and ocean surface, increases in ocean heat content, a rise in global sea level, and general retreat of sea ice and snow cover. These and other aspects of modeled climate change are in agreement with observations.

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Sadly the demise of the Great Climate Change Hoax will mean that a lot of art, great and cheesy, will no longer be quite the same. Roland Emmerich’s overblown global warming epic, “The Day After Tomorrow”, which paradoxically depicts a new ice age, will seem even sillier than it did when it first came out. “An Inconvenient Truth” looks more like science fiction every day. One wonders whether the Academy can revoke Al Gore’s Oscar. And the South Park guys are going to have to retire “Manbearpig”, unless Al Gore seizes upon another environmental crisis to stoke for the benefit of his fame and his own pocketbook.

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CLIMATE CHANGE LUNATICS CONSPIRE TO PLUNDER U.S.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton announced recently that man-made climate change was responsible for
extreme weather events during the summer of 2010. Hillary joins an increasing number of climate change experts on
President Obama’s staff. All have one trait in common. Their curriculum vitae include little or no knowledge of
atmosphere-ocean dynamics. They have no clue what causes extreme weather events. Their outspoken ignorance
identifies them as climate change loonies.

According to an Associated Press article published in newspapers on August 13, 2010:
“Salvano Briceno, UN specialist on the UN ’s International Strategy for Disaster Reduction,
pointed to aggravating factors in the latest climate catastrophes: China’s failure to stem deforestation,
contributing to its deadly mudslides; Russia’s poor forest management, feeding fires; and the settling of
poor Pakistanis on flood plains and dry river beds in the densely populated country, squatters turf that
suddenly turned into torrents.” Hillary failed to do her homework.

Most extreme weather events are caused by an unusual combination of typical weather systems (cyclones,
anticyclones, fronts, monsoons and thunderstorms). For example, high temperature records set on the East
Coast in July were caused by unusually warm moist air from the Gulf of Mexico and high altitude blow-off
from Hurricane Alex and Tropical Storm Bonnie (See Appendix A1). August saw more of the same oppressive
air from the Gulf of Mexico with warm clear air blow-off from monsoon storms over the Rockies. Record
floods in Iowa resulted from a stable intersection of warm moist tropical air from the Gulf of Mexico with cool
dry air from Canada. Record floods in Tennessee were caused by the remnant of a tropical depression.

Global warming had nothing to do with the record summer heat wave and flooding rains of 2010. Climate
change loonies blame these extreme weather events on burning fossil fuel. They believe that Americans who
drive SUV’s or eat cheeseburgers cause extreme weather events. (Believe it or not, this fearsome rubbish is
included in a public elementary school lesson plan.)

Actually the summer weather of 2010 has been relatively benign for the Continental U.S. No hurricanes
have hit the country through the end of August. There are no extreme droughts anywhere. This is welcome
relief from extreme droughts in California, Texas, Florida and the Southeast during recent years. There is not a
word in the media about this good climate change news.

The AP article by Charles J. Hanley deserves the attention of every American. It describes a conspiracy
sponsored by the United Nations, Britain and the U.S. Government to frighten Americans into supporting
President Obama’s objectives: draconian cuts in fossil-fuel use; cap-and-trade legislation causing skyrocketing
costs of electricity, gasoline, heating oil and natural gas; global governance of fossil fuel reserves and
redistribution of American wealth to foreign countries. Senator Obama made some of these objectives apparent
before the election. President Obama revealed others at the Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen.

The President’s objectives are frighteningly on course to achieve Congresswoman Maxine Waters’ “liberal”
wish to nationalize the oil and gas industries. This is one-step closer to redistributing American wealth and
fundamentally transforming America by continuing to take apart our free market enterprise system.

President Obama’s legislative successes have taken a wrecking-ball to the economy. Referring to this
disaster, Jim Kramer on CNBC’s “Mad Money” said, “The President is at war with the stock market”(August
25, 2010). If the U.S. Senate caves and passes cap-and-trade, it will be the final nail in the coffin of the
economy. That is, if tax increases don’t bury it first.

Hanley titled the article, “Climate Gurus saw cruel weather coming.”

Climate gurus that claim to see “cruel weather coming” are climate change loonies. Climate change
computer models cannot predict the time and location of extreme weather events.

Hanley wrote:
“Worldwide temperature readings… show that this January-June was the hottest first half of a year
since record keeping began in the mid-19th century.”

This is Government propaganda. The example is conveniently crafted to suggest that man’s burning of
fossil fuel is responsible for increasing global average surface temperature since the Industrial Revolution.
Contrasting worldwide temperature readings from the mid-19th century with this year is comparing apples with
elephants. There is no comparison between the quality and density of temperature observations then and now.

Global average surface temperature is an exercise in statistical folly. It averages the normal passage of
weather events into an unnatural mush of homogeneity. By some accounts, global average surface temperature
has increased 1.0-2.0 degrees F. in the past century. There is no conclusive evidence that any of that change is
caused by burning fossil fuel. Even if it were all caused by man it is insignificant to the generation of extreme
weather events.

Seasonal temperature variation can exceed 100 degrees F. over land and 20 degrees F. over oceans.
Assuming surface temperature alone determines number and intensity of extreme weather events, the effect of
global warming is in the noise. For example, hurricanes do not form in winter. Water temperature is too cold
even with global warming. Tropical cyclones form only after the summer sun heats tropical air and waters.
Global warming is insignificant. Predictions of more and stronger storms due to global warming are
preposterous.

“Scientists blame the warming on carbon dioxide and other heat trapping gases pouring into the
atmosphere from power plants, cars and trucks, furnaces and other fossil fuel-burning industrial and
residential sources.”

What scientists? These persons are climate change loonies. They are not atmosphere-ocean scientists.
Blaming man for significant warming of Earth’s surface temperature is sophomoric fear mongering nonsense.
Most scientists, schooled and experienced in atmosphere-ocean dynamics, disagree with this specious argument.

“Carbon dioxide and other heat trapping gases” exert an insignificant influence on surface temperature
compared to weather events that increase solar insolation or release heat from the oceans. NOAA/NASA
satellites validate this in Appendix A. For example, the view from space reveals that the record heat of July
2010 was drawn from Atlantic Ocean Basin waters and reinforced by a high altitude dome of warming clear air,
allowing unimpeded solar radiation to bake the land.

Satellite imagery shows that much of the unusually warm surface air invading the U.S. from the Gulf of
Mexico and Western Atlantic Ocean was influenced by cold air flooding the Tropics at high altitude. Upper
level cold air reduces high cloud cover allowing increased solar heating of tropical oceans. Cold lows (high
altitude cyclones and waves) form in advance of tropical cyclones and suppress hurricane development
(Appendix A2). As this is written, at the end of August 2010, 13 tropical disturbances have formed in the
Atlantic Ocean Basin. With the exception of Hurricane Alex, all have been escorted and suppressed by a cold
low. Hurricane Danielle became a major hurricane as it slipped its cold low by moving under warm air in
advance of a cold front. Huricane Earl became a major hurricane under the warm umbrella of outflow from
Danielle. Both maintained major hurricane status briefly. Tropical Storms Fiona and Gaston fizzled under the
influence of cold lows.

Two tropical cyclones, seriously weakened by cold lows, made landfall this summer at almost the same
location as Hurricane Katrina. If hurricane strength were determined only by water temperature, we would
now be grieving the terrible destruction and loss caused by two major hurricanes, instead of reminiscing over
five years of renewal. Why are climate change loonies not celebrating these fortuitous climate events?

Cold lows on the Equator are now suppressing storms on the Intertropical Convergence Zone and increasing
solar heating of tropical waters. Hurricane winds cool tropical waters. So increased solar insolation and few or
weak hurricanes mean warmer water in the Tropics. Record heat waves in the U.S. are sure to follow. Global
warming cannot be blamed.

Cold lows also initiate extra-tropical storms (Appendix A3), and reinforce fronts and tornado outbreaks
(Appendix A4). In fact, cold lows are a much more powerful regulator of surface temperature than are
greenhouse gases. Climate gurus generally ignore upper levels of the atmosphere. They have no clue what
causes extreme weather events. The view from space reveals the truth. Eyes in the sky don’t lie. (Appendices
A2, A3 and A4 are works in progress.)

“The U. S. remains the only major industrialized nation not to have caps on carbon emissions.”
The U.S. inaction is a key reason global talks have bogged down for a pact to succeed the expiring
Kyoto Protocol, the relatively weak accord on emissions cuts adhered to by all other industrialized
states.”

Here is a reason for the conspiracy. U.S. refusal to knuckle under to climate change loonies is a humiliation
to those countries that were flimflammed with global warming into signing the Kyoto Protocol. They want
fossil-fuel caps and global governance imposed on the U.S. too.

Americans are fortunate that some members of the U.S. Senate prevented the President from giving away
the farm at Copenhagen. But he will try again at the Climate Change Conference in Mexico next year. The
U.N has long had designs on redistributing American wealth to its bureaucrats and to foreign countries. It
promotes fundamentally transforming America to subvert the free-market enterprise system. With Obama as
President of the U.S., the UN sees the opportunity to plunder the U.S. now.

“The experts now see an urgent need for better ways to forecast extreme events like Russia’s heat
wave…” They will discuss such tools in meetings this month and next in Europe and America under
United Nations, U.S. and British sponsorship. There is no time to waste because societies must be
equipped to deal with global warming, says British government Climatologist Peter Stott.”

Peter Stott spilled the beans. He identified global warming as the problem. Why is there an urgent need for
better ways to forecast extreme weather events if global warming is the cause? By definition, global warming is
caused by burning fossil fuels. The only relevant forecast then is how much to cut carbon emissions. How
convenient. That is just what the President proposes. The “experts” are climate change loonies.

The meetings are a ruse. The brutal fact is that climate change computer models cannot now, nor in the
foreseeable future, forecast extreme weather events beyond a few days. So what is the real purpose of the
meetings? The meetings provide forums for climate change loonies to gain widespread publicity agonizing over
the evils of fossil fuels and big carbon corporations.

“United Nations, U.S. and British sponsorship” identifies the conspirators. Their intent is to neutralize
U.S. Senate opposition to President Obama surrendering U.S. sovereignty and dollars at the Climate Change
Conference in Mexico next year.

“No time to waste because societies must be equipped to deal with global warming…” There is no
time to waste because the Climate Change Conference meets in 2011. The sponsors need time to brainwash
Americans with testimonials from climate change loonies blaming extreme weather events on man made global
warming. Sponsors employ the climate change loonies for the purpose of stampeding the public to pressure
their politicians. There can be no opposing viewpoints from the meetings. Left-wing media reports will praise
climate change loonies as experts specially chosen for their brilliant peer reviewed research. Peer reviewed
climate change loonies are like-minded climate change loonies.

“… meetings of climatologists in the coming weeks in Paris, Britain and Colorado will be one step
toward adaptation, seeking ways to forecast extreme events.”

“Adaptation” means to “convert” U.S. inaction into submission at the next climate change conference and
for the U.S. Senate to ratify a treaty signed by President Obama giving the farm away and to pass his cap-and
trade system legislation.

“…seeking ways to forecast extreme events,” is a ruse. Computer climate models cannot “forecast
extreme events.” Instead they falsely assume that man made greenhouse gases cause extreme events.

“The U.N.’s network of climate scientists-the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)-
has long predicted that rising global temperatures would produce more frequent and intense heat waves
and more intense rainfalls. In 2007, the Nobel Peace Prize-winning panel went beyond that. It said
these trends “have already been observed,” in an increase in heat waves since 1950, for example.”

The IPCC is a U.N. political body. The U.N. promotes redistributing U.S. wealth to the pockets of its
bureaucrats and to foreign dictators. The IPCC serves U.N. objectives. It is well known for its involvement in
the Climategate fraud. It is a pack of climate change loonies.

The rise in global temperature attributed to global warming is too minuscule to produce more frequent and
intense heat waves. Since 1950, many heat waves were found to be related to deforestation, bad land
management practices and depletion of water for agriculture and human and domesticated animal consumption.
Massive expansion of heat absorbing asphalt and concrete structures has contributed to surface warming and
heat waves. The heat island effect downwind of cities is well known. The worst heat wave in recent U.S.
history was the ten-year Dustbowl heat wave and drought during the 1930’s. It has been attributed to bad land
management.

Politicians and the media are blaming the record heat wave of July 2010 on global warming. This is
ludicrous. It was caused by heat transported from Atlantic Ocean Basin waters and solar insolation through
clear air (Appendix A1).

“The weather related cataclysms of July and August (feverish heat etc.) fit patterns predicted by
climate scientists, the Geneva based World Meteorological Organization (WMO) says…”

“Climate scientists” cannot predict patterns of weather related cataclysms. Climate change loonies
predict weather related cataclysms simply by blaming global warming. Global warming attributed to fossil-fuel
burning is too insignificant to cause weather related cataclysms. The WMO is a U.N. sponsored body. It
supports U.N. policies and objectives. It too is a cabal of climate change loonies.

“The WMO pointed out that this summer’s events fit the international scientists projections of
“more frequent and more intense extreme weather events due to global warming.”
Global warming of 1.0-2.0 degree F. /century can’t cause “more frequent and more intense extreme
weather events…” These international scientists are climate change loonies.

Taxpayers are going to be on the hook to fund extravagant junkets of climate change loonies to meetings in
Paris, Britain and Colorado (Not your typical family vacation venues). The purpose of the meetings is to make
headlines about how burning fossil-fuels cause extreme weather events that are responsible for high casualties
and damage costs.

Recommendations from the meetings will urge the U.S. Government to pass cap-and-trade legislation and
agree to ratify a treaty calling for draconian cuts in fossil-fuel use, global governance of fossil-fuel reserves, and
redistribution of American wealth to foreign countries. If the U.S. Senate caves and passes cap-and-trade or
ratifies President Obama’s treaty, the U.S. will be plundered.

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From the “Liberal play book”

1. State: (insert topic here) is proven beyond a doubt / the debate is settled.

2. When confronted with claims to the contrary, rebut: “but the debate is settled” or “it’s proven beyond a doubt.”

3. When all else fails, call the dissenters names and belittle.

CT 1: “The clear scientific consensus indicates a warming climate caused by human activity.”

CT 2: “But there is no dispute in the scientific community about two things: the climate is warming and human activity is causing it.” and “But those two essential elements are not in dispute.’

CT 3: “Many others have simply chosen to be ignorant anti-science flat-earthers.”

Bravo, Cynthia. You ran that play to perfection.

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The sooner Imam Obama and this democratic Congress are dumped the safer we all will be.

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I have been environmentally conscious all my life, but don’t make a big deal out of it. You progressives however, want the government to weigh in on this, because heaven forbid you just request every person to be more careful in their use of energy. You know, because it is your type of people involved, they have to be forced to do the right thing by the government or they won’t do it. So I reject your name calling, but will say right back you progressive/liberals love telling everyone else how to live their lives, but while you love all peoples in general, you love and care for nothing and no one in particular. What a snarky bunch you are.

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Has anyone else noticed that CT conveniently disappears from these forums when the majority of comments are against her “articles?”

Interesting…

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CT wrote, in part:
One of the greatest crises of our time is climate change, which threatens to create food shortages (as the Russians learned this summer)

Sorry, but the heat wave/food shortages were not caused by climate change. Sine the 30’s Russia has had exactly 5 extremely hot Julys, and exactly 5 extremely cool Julys. Therefore 70 Julys have been “normal”.

from: Earth System Research Laboratory (NOAA)

The Russian Heat Wave of 2010

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There is strong evidence that the immediate cause can be placed at the doorstep of an extreme pattern of atmospheric winds—widely referred to as blocking. In the situation of anticyclonic blocking such as developed over western Russia in early July 2010, the normal west-to-east movement of weather systems is inhibited, with the center of a blocking experiencing persistently quiescent weather.

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I would like to direct all the Chicken Littles to the PBS Nova special (not Fox News) called “Becoming Human”. Transcript of episode 1 available at the pbs website. The evolution of the pre humans in Africa is covered. The fossil record indicates our early ancestors evolved during periods of climate change. What is particularly relevant to climate change of today, is that the fossil record indicates a long period of relative climate stability, a gradual drying of their environment over millions of years. “They survived and thrived as brain size flat-lined for almost 4,000,000 years. But that doesn’t mean nothing changed. There’s evidence that the seeds of our humanity were growing in these ape-like creatures.”

Then Homo Habilis (the first tool makers) appear in the record. Much larger brains. Studies indicate a period of rapid climate change began around this time. Fluctuations between wet and dry in a few hundred years and rapid evolution of the pre-humans appear to have gone hand in hand.

The relevance to today’s discussion is the RAPID fluctuations in climate that the record reveals. Noone denies the climate is changing. But is it changing any more rapidly than it has in the past? And if the earliest of our ancestors were able to adapt to RAPID climate change, surely we will also.

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Genesis 8:22 While the earth remains, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night, shall not cease.”

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GOP PARTY OF LET THE POOR ELDERLY AND THE YOUNG DIE OFF,STARVE TO DEATH,WE DONT CARE!

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“One of the greatest crises of our time is climate change, which threatens to create food shortages (as the Russians learned this summer)…”

Funny thing about the Russians, they can go out and buy food stuffs with the money they collect from drilling, harvesting and producing THEIR OWN OIL!

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Guys and gals, please pay no attention to the Cynthia Tuckers of the world. They are unfactual.

Will you help us take America back?

We must keep our eyes on these Russian masturbationists who are dragging our country to the brink of destruction.

You betcha!

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O’YEAH GOP IS THE PARTY OF LOGCABIN UNDERCOVER GAYS,,PLUS THEY LOVE TO BOMB BABIES AND OLD PEOPLE! BUT NO TO ABORTION,BUT KILL’EM WHEN THEY ARE BORN,THIS IS THE PARTY OF THE REPUBLICANS!

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Science ain’t about consensus; politics is. How many manufactured crisis can we be duped on? The swine flu and Gulf oil fiasco were not a crisis. Now the economy is the latent crisis yet no viable strategy emerges. Get this guy out!

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Bubba Bob

Actually, that’s just what we are doing.

The Obama Administration did re-instate the PAYGO rules.

Perhaps you missed that.

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Has anyone seen “Chicken Little” lately ?

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