The GOP is now a party of know-nothing flat-earthers

One of the greatest crises of our time is climate change, which threatens to create food shortages (as the Russians learned this summer), change geography, eradicate entire eco-systems and even wipe out cities and towns in coastal areas. (NOTE: If you are an anti-science know-nothing, don’t bother to comment. The clear scientific consensus indicates a warming climate caused by human activity.)
But we’ve reached the odd and depressing point in American politics where not a single Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate supports aggressive action to mitigate climate change. The last science literate, Delaware Congressman Mike Castle, was defeated by tea party favorite Christine O’Donnell.
The blog Think Progress did a survey of GOP Senate candidates, and it found that even those who had previously supported policies that would curb carbon emissions have backed away, fearing a backlash from their know-nothing constituents.
Many others have simply chosen to be ignorant anti-science flat-earthers. Alaska’s Joe Miller, who defeated incumbent Lisa Murkowski in the GOP primary, is an example of the latter category. He told an Alaska newspaper,
“We haven’t heard there’s man-made global warming.” [Fairbanks Daily News-Miner, 8/23/10]

Georgia Senator Johnny Isakson is in the more sophisticated category, too smart to deny the science outright but unwilling to buck a tide of flat-earth voters and selfish businesses that don’t want to change their ways. This was Isakson’s response, according to Think Progress:

Science has shown us that there has been a gradual warming of the earth over the last 50 years. What is not as clear is whether the cause for this warming is man-made emissions, a cyclical warming of the planet, or a combination of both. Given the uncertainty in the science behind climate change, I believe that we should take proactive steps, both personally and as a nation, to reduce our emissions. footprint.

Interestingly, though, Isakson doesn’t support any “proactive measures” to combat climate change.

The current GOP represents a step backward from the Bush administration, which acknowledged the threat of climate change. In 2007, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said the US was “a major emitter” and was not “above the international community on the issue.” She also said that “all nations should tackle” the “growing problem” of climate change. (h/t The New Civil Rights Movement)

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Billybob

September 16th, 2010
3:44 pm

kevinbgoode,

I have never done anything like that, although I think I do look good in the mirror. You might want to direct that comment to Thomas Lee Elifritz, aka, The Professor. He fits that statement better…..

granny godzilla

September 16th, 2010
3:45 pm

NIF

Argue all you wish.

CO2 in excess kills.

The locked capsule had plenty of O, too much CO2.

George W

September 16th, 2010
3:45 pm

OMG she cannot be this dumb….Granny are you serious?

George W

September 16th, 2010
3:46 pm

Let me ask you this….What do you breathe in? What do you breathe out? Now tell me what happened to the O in the capsule?

Joe Biden

September 16th, 2010
3:47 pm

Its a known fact here in the great state of Delaware, that Global Warming is caused by two very serious problems.

1) Cow Flatulence
2) Boston Baked Beans

The president and I have a stimulus bill we plan to ramrod thru requiring the following.

All cows will be relocated indoors, perhaps in either one of tow locations…empty factorys and foreclosed homes. (and you thought we were backing unions for no reason!) This will force the cows to smell their odiferous creations and they will reduce these vile emmissions

Secondly, all bean mfrs will be required to deep fry the beans and congress will only be allowed to eat the beans in their office with the door shut. Same principle as the cow law if you get my sniff.

Also working on a bill that will combine the world series and the super bowl into one game. Dont worry, their will be lots of cheerleaders and cold beer but NO baked beans or Chik-Filet cows. More details on a later post…

granny godzilla

September 16th, 2010
3:47 pm

George W

We all know the answer to that strawman question you old silly!

And still the excess CO2 would have killed them dead.

Nothing Is Free

September 16th, 2010
3:48 pm

“Volcanoes are also a major source of carbon dioxide, but their average input to the atmosphere is generally considered minor relative to anthropogenic input.”

anthropogenic

That would be human breathing.

SO WE CAN’T BREATH NOW?

You first.

commoncents

September 16th, 2010
3:48 pm

gg-

There is a world outside of atlanta filled with million of acres of greenery. Trees/bushes are also being planted all throughout atlanta in the parks and gardens.

Droughts have been occuring since the world was created. This is not new. Extreme rain and flooding happens as well. Also not new.

Chris

September 16th, 2010
3:48 pm

Cynthia, I am not a climate scientist, nor do I believe you are. Plenty of comments here have offered opinions from climate scientists that differ from your personal opinion. And even the scientists who subscribe to your line of thinking admit that they cannot prove their stance scientifically speaking. So doesn’t that make it an opinion? I don’t get where you come off so smarmy looking down your nose at those who dare to question the OPINION of a scientist. Aren’t you doing the same thing to those scientists who have a completely different view than you? What makes you smarter than them?

You’ve resorted to name calling. Sad and pathetic CT.

barking frog

September 16th, 2010
3:48 pm

Thomas Lee Elifritz

September 16th, 2010
3:40 pm
No it was the result of several international antarctic ice core projects
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Were these scientific projects or mathematical projects?

George W

September 16th, 2010
3:49 pm

Granny, so you still think there was plenty of O in the capsule?

T-Town

September 16th, 2010
3:51 pm

Ms. Granny; You just made me chuckle, “killed them dead.” Is there any other way?

George W

September 16th, 2010
3:52 pm

Maybe there is a way to be killed but still be alive….hahahahahah lmao

granny godzilla

September 16th, 2010
3:53 pm

Commoncents

Do you think there is more greenspace now than 10 years ago? Really?

George W

There was enough O to get them home. And enough CO2 to kill them long before they got home.

George W

September 16th, 2010
3:54 pm

Granny…I cannot continue this conversation….just by talking to you I can feel my IQ deminishing.

JohnnyReb

September 16th, 2010
3:54 pm

Uncovered, another extreme radical advising the POTUS on socialism. Seems Obama has been a quick study.

White House Office of Science and Technology Director John P. Holdren has explained to CNSNews.com his beliefs documented in his 1973 book: ”Human Ecology; Problems and Solutions” which call for “political,“ ”legal,“ and ”boycott” action in order to make sure that resources and wealth are distributed evenly. “The need for de-development presents our economists with a major challenge. They must design a stable, low-consumption economy in which there is a much more equitable distribution of wealth than in the present one. Redistribution of wealth both within and among nations is absolutely essential, if a decent life is to be provided for every human being.”

commoncents

September 16th, 2010
3:54 pm

gg-

for someone who advocates googling answers so much (such as your incessant apollo questions), you would see that 1 of the two oxygen tanks ruptured, and the other leaked profusely.

Long story short, “The locked capsule had plenty of O” is a false statement.

Billybob

September 16th, 2010
3:55 pm

You must be loving your post today Tucker. Your “climate science” of INSTIGATION has been proven. Congrats….hope this isn’t interrupting your afternoon liberal groupthink discussion on how smart you and your colleagues are and how racist the “white meat” in chickens is for being so delicious and helping to create “certain” stereotypes. Maybe tomorrow we can all read how chalk has “been hatin’ ” the black man…..I make light of this, but this is what you do, so I have to call you on it….

Thomas Lee Elifritz

September 16th, 2010
3:55 pm

Were these scientific projects or mathematical projects?

Yes.

granny godzilla

September 16th, 2010
3:58 pm

commoncents

wrong-a-mundo

if there was not enough O, the pick up would have been for 3 bodies….

but history shows they did make it home alive.

My money is my money

September 16th, 2010
3:58 pm

GG – I have read the posts for the last hour or so – are you really that dumb?

Thomas Lee Elifritz

September 16th, 2010
4:00 pm

Long story short, “The locked capsule had plenty of O” is a false statement.

Those were service module tanks for the fuel cells, power and water. The lunar module provided life support for the entire trip home, which was insufficient for carbon dioxide scrubbing and the problem was the extra carbon dioxide scrubber cartridges didn’t fit into the lunar modules device. I don’t have to google this stuff because I was around when it happened, and watched it all live on television. Television and lunar missions that were enabled by the methods of science and engineering that you so readily deny.

granny godzilla

September 16th, 2010
4:01 pm

money money boy

can’t imagine you’re literate enough to make that judgement.

but your opinion is no skin off my nose.

granny godzilla

September 16th, 2010
4:02 pm

Thomas Lee

I like the way you work….

barking frog

September 16th, 2010
4:02 pm

Thomas Lee Elifritz

September 16th, 2010
3:55 pm
Were these scientific projects or mathematical projects?

Yes.
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Well according to your posts that science is unprovable and
mathematics is irrefutable, the projects are irrefutably unprovable,
thus worthless.

commoncents

September 16th, 2010
4:02 pm

gg-

I did not say there is more greenspace now than 10 years ago. I did say that greenspace still exists. It is also protected in certain areas.

Presidential Leadership?

September 16th, 2010
4:03 pm

What has President Obama proposed re: global warming that will reduce emissions? He may not be in favor of additional exploration in the United States, but has green lighted additional oil exploration offshore for other countries (South American ones). Has he proposed increasing the federal tax on gasoline (God knows he loves taxes, why doesn’t he just increase the price at the pump for “rich” people only)? This is not a Republican only issue, this is a political issue for both sides. Neither of them have the guts to make hard decisions that they think will hurt their “legacies” (newsflash, the legacy of President Obama’s one term will be fascism/deficits/dropping American prestige/more deficits)….

Thomas Lee Elifritz

September 16th, 2010
4:05 pm

Well according to your posts that science is unprovable and
mathematics is irrefutable, the projects are irrefutably unprovable,
thus worthless.

No problem, like I said, don’t post text messages to the internet because science is unprovable and mathematics is worthless, and therefore none of your electronic and mechanical devices can work.

Stay out of hospitals and off airplanes as well. They use scientific instruments that can’t possibly work.

commoncents

September 16th, 2010
4:05 pm

Thomas-

I don’t deny science. I just don’t blindly believe whatever someone tells me. Or what is inconclusive

Lil' Bush Bailout

September 16th, 2010
4:07 pm

George W
We voted for a president that had absolutely no qualifications to do the job and hates America

Assuming that is true, yo are gonna counter that with equally unqualified people in the senate…yeah, thats smart

granny godzilla

September 16th, 2010
4:07 pm

commoncents

never said you did now did i?

trying to get you to figure out or research even the reality of how much green space we are losing everyday.

granny godzilla

September 16th, 2010
4:09 pm

“We voted for a president that had absolutely no qualifications to do the job and hates America”

Balderdash

Lil' Bush Bailout

September 16th, 2010
4:09 pm

legacy of President Obama’s one term will be fascism/deficits/dropping American prestige/more deficits)….

Just wanted to put this out there, you do know Bush ran a deficit every year he was in office

Thomas Lee Elifritz

September 16th, 2010
4:09 pm

I don’t deny science. I just don’t blindly believe whatever someone tells me. Or what is inconclusive

And you can clearly observe that computers, the internet, radio, cell phones and television don’t work, therefore science and engineering are ‘inconclusive’. Ditto internal combustion engines, jet engines, rocket engines, aircraft and spacecraft. Science and engineering are one big FRAUD!

Joe BITEME author of "summer of recovery"

September 16th, 2010
4:11 pm

Man what some people call Global Warming other people call Tax increase. Is this Socialist going to try and force more government control over the American people down their throats?

What some call Recovery others call worst economy in generations. What planet are these people living on?

What some call Health Care reform others call it higher premiums for less coverage.

Governing against the will of the people has mobilized a whole new portion of the American population. The scary part is they have jobs and they vote.

J. Kase

September 16th, 2010
4:11 pm

Afternoon all. Just dropped in to tell you that you ALL have it wrong. Global warming is being caused by all the hot air coming out of Washington. Correct this problem and the earth WILL return to normal. You can thank me later, bye!

My money is my money

September 16th, 2010
4:14 pm

Again I say to GG – are you just uneducated or ignorant or both?

Rick Sultana

September 16th, 2010
4:15 pm

John Birch:

Y2k was a threat. And remediating the code and installing back ups and work arounds saved our butts when the Towers fell on 9/11. Newfoundland used Y2k procedures drawn up in case of a mass air traffic emergency to land overseas planes when they were directed away from New York airspace during the attack. And all the financial and personal information lost in the towers were recovered on off-site servers.

This is a sensitive issue for me as you can tell. I spent three years of my life working on Y2k and while I never bought into the notion that planes would fall out of the sky and a major city would look like Beruit, I took my work very seriously.

An lo, planes did fall out of the sky and part of a big city lay in ruins. What we did, despite the ridicule, paid off.

barking frog

September 16th, 2010
4:18 pm

Thomas Lee Elifritz

September 16th, 2010
4:05 pm
Well according to your posts that science is unprovable and
mathematics is irrefutable, the projects are irrefutably unprovable,
thus worthless.

No problem, like I said, don’t post text messages to the internet because science is unprovable and mathematics is worthless, and therefore none of your electronic and mechanical devices can work
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Please read the first paragraph which i wrote and the second
paragraph which you wrote . Remember back to reading
comprehension and find the falsehood in your paragraph.

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Thomas Lee Elifritz

September 16th, 2010
4:20 pm

Please read the first paragraph which i wrote and the second

No thanks. After posting numerous links describing your lies and falsehoods and misrepresentations, it’s far easier for me to quit posting here. If was fun, but you people are no longer worth my efforts.

barking frog

September 16th, 2010
4:23 pm

Thomas Lee Elifritz4:20 You don’t need a degree to read
a thermometer, but you do need to understand ‘degree’.

Global Warming answer right here!!aka Democrat

September 16th, 2010
4:34 pm

Raise Taxes! That;s it . Problem solved. NEXT

Keith

September 16th, 2010
4:36 pm

Scientists once believed the oceans could metabolize anything we discarded. Physicians used to bleed patients and zap their brains with electicity. Explain again how I should completely believe what is being said about global warming. Powerful forces may be warming the Earth but to think it’s all human caused is an attempt to make humankind seem more important than we really are. Like religion.

Billybob

September 16th, 2010
4:39 pm

Professor Thomas Lee Elifritz,

Thanks for your input, but after careful consideration of all the facts and statements presented here I have come to the conclusion that you haven’t convinced me. Climate is changing and will always evolve and change as long as there is an earth, but man “ain’t not gon’ be causin’ none uh dat’. I gess we be a bunch uh dumdums.” Congrats and good luck with your continued intellectual superiority. You smell terrific……

Iconoclast

September 16th, 2010
4:42 pm

As a career ecologist (that’s a sceintist who recognizes the realtionships between living things and their environment), I become more anesthetized to populist cries each time I hear proclaimed that our climate is warming and human activity is causing it. (Duh!)

Unless it can be conclusively proven that human beings are an invasive species that colonized from some other world, I think the time passed long-ago for us to acknowledge that – whether we evolved or were deliberately engineered – humans ARE and will continue to be part of the natural systems on this planet. In fact it may be that we are merely an exquisitely evolved vector of the third-planet’s 4.8 billion year-old habit: i.e., CHANGE.

While recently attending a federal forum on climate change and transportation planning’s role in the perceived “mess,” it dawned on me that many scientists and politicians are rallying around one tired-old fundamental question: “What are we to do about global processes that have been occurring for thens of billions of years?”

The obvious answer commands just as much brevity: “We do what humanity (and planetary systems) always do: ADAPT!”

And there you have it, no reams of research, tomes of policy machinations, or hopey-changey and doubting-Thomas sound bytes.

If everyone would, please, not take more than they need and just get back to work simply making this world a better place for having lived in it…. Is that really asking too much?

Thank you!

Atlantan

September 16th, 2010
4:47 pm

We could all start by eliminating the hot air coming out of the MSM that could be a start.

Remarkably, to flat earth environuts, climate change has existed since the earth was formed. I know it might come as a shock to you Cynthia, but Minnesota was once covered under a sheet of ice,but remarkably the earth warmed the ice melted and now Minnesota brags about their 10,000 lakes.
It is funny how the left thinks they can play God, but still can’t figure out how to get the jobless rate to move to less than 9.5%.

Joseph Pinto

September 16th, 2010
4:54 pm

There are a million factors that go into ‘climate change’ and can hardly be pin pointed on something so broad as ‘human activity’

FIRE CYNTHIA

Scrooge

September 16th, 2010
4:56 pm

Hpod post and right on. The tea bags are nothing more than the rebirth of the John Birch society and McCarthyism. They were nutters then and nutters now. The sad part is the information is out there and can be learned. Science does not care about politics. But what are the odds of a flat earther even trying to get educated.

ken R

September 16th, 2010
4:58 pm

I posted this several times and I will do it again, 32,000 Scientists signed a petition claiming that there was no evidence of Global Warming. You can believe Tucker, lol, or real Scientists. Go on the web and check it out if you don’t believe me.

For her to say if your nor Anti-Sciene do not post just shows how dumb she really is.

Our World has gone from a few Billion people to 6 Billion in a few decades so what in the Hell do you think will happen Tucker, of course there will be some changes. Don’t worry the World won’t end tomorrow, I gurantee it!